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  1. PoisonedV
    Date: Wed, Sep 26 2007 05:57:39

    OK, I have mastered 1.0 thumbaround and gotten very smooth at fingerpass. I, on the other hand, can't do a charge or sonic worth shit. Should I keep trying those or, like some people in IRC suggested, move onto other tricks? If so, what tricks?

  2. UEDan
    Date: Wed, Sep 26 2007 06:04:44

    I would suggest you learn at least sonic first for it will help you later with more advanced tricks. But feel free to try the more advanced tricks.

  3. sketching
    Date: Wed, Sep 26 2007 06:05:45

    Do whatever you want. It took a few months before I cared enough to get around to learning Fingerpass. By that time, I had already moved onto other tricks and combos. I had the Infinity combos down before the Fingerpass combo. It would b good to learn Sonic soon, since it's pretty much the most reliable way of moving the pen up and down the hand.

  4. Rekkuuzan
    Date: Wed, Sep 26 2007 06:08:10

    Move onto whatever you think looks coolest, or something YOU want to do in your combos. You can learn many things ahead of time before all fundamentals.

  5. scyros
    Date: Wed, Sep 26 2007 06:16:01

    I agree, learn whatever trick you find appealing. I still have a horrible finger pass and not that good of a sonic reverse 23-34. So I went directly to shadows cause i liked the way they look. Although the fundamentals make it easier to learn more advanced tricks.
    Anyway do whatever you feel like tongue.gif

  6. K4S
    Date: Wed, Sep 26 2007 07:43:53

    Learn the fundamentals...it makes learning harder stuff less of a pain in the ass

  7. WhiteFang
    Date: Wed, Sep 26 2007 07:54:43

    suggest you learn sonic first..but it's ur choice..

  8. PoisonedV
    Date: Wed, Sep 26 2007 21:29:49

    Guess I should take your guyses advice though... Too bad sonic is fucking hard

  9. Crzyazn
    Date: Wed, Sep 26 2007 22:04:16

    QUOTE (PoisonedV @ Sep 26 2007, 01:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Guess I should take your guyses advice though... Too bad sonic is fucking hard


    sonic isn't hard...it is just confusing teach.gif

  10. P0T4T0
    Date: Wed, Sep 26 2007 23:49:17

    learn watever u want, but i suggest charge cuz it helps a lot

  11. daryck101
    Date: Thu, Sep 27 2007 00:31:22

    ya u should try to get sonic and charge down first because they're almost like the gateway to other tricks
    but u can always look through the advance tricks i actually learned shadow before sonic so ya

  12. ShoeMan
    Date: Thu, Sep 27 2007 01:10:25

    IMO you should just do what you feel like doing, just because there are 4 tricks that are considered fundamentals it doesn't mean you need to learn them all, hell, even if you only learned the thumbaround and then went on to tougher tricks that can be learned after knowing the thumbaround you could still make excellent combos, with tricks like ta, ts, ta rev, IA, face double etc.. the most important thing I guess is that you shouldnt follow a certain pattern just because other guys are following it..

  13. Tenku069
    Date: Thu, Sep 27 2007 05:49:08

    QUOTE (PoisonedV @ Sep 26 2007, 02:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Guess I should take your guyses advice though... Too bad sonic is fucking hard


    In my opinion it is not how hard the trick is, it is the patience and commitment that one puts into learning a trick that makes it happen. The less you put into a trick, the more your mind gets sucked into thinking that it is hard. Some tricks take longer to learn than others depending on how you approach the trick. So if you want to learn a trick, don't think about how hard it is, but put your mind into learning it itself and nothing else.

    Learn the Basics first. The basics is the gate to a broader mind of tricks and imagination in tricks

  14. LearnerPS
    Date: Thu, Sep 27 2007 07:54:33

    Well... it's really your choice, if you want to learn tricks first, go ahead but learning the basics will just lessen the toughness of the advanced tricks. And btw... when your trying to do a sonic, try your luck x_x I tried mine and acidentally got it while doing a Inverse Reverse Fingerpass.

  15. K4S
    Date: Thu, Sep 27 2007 08:05:21

    What the heck is an Inverse Reverse Fingerpass?

  16. cyber penguin
    Date: Fri, Sep 28 2007 20:03:46

    I think you should figure out what type of tricks you want to learn and then work from the bottom up. Spinning won't interest you for long if you're only learning tricks because somebody else says you should. Of course for some combos you'll have to learn other tricks first, but at least then you have a goal to work towards. I think as long as you are interested in pen spinning and you are willing to practice, the rest of the fundamentals will come in time regardless what you do right now.

  17. Chungy
    Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 23:57:24

    QUOTE (K4S @ Sep 27 2007, 02:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    What the heck is an Inverse Reverse Fingerpass?

    Yeah I'm confused wacko.gif

  18. Zombo
    Date: Thu, Oct 4 2007 02:27:08

    no need for this thread anymore, TC is banned. If you have unrelated questions, post them in the appropriate section.

  19. QuestionMark
    Date: Wed, Oct 31 2007 18:36:56

    Well, a month ago I started pen spinning. Since then, I learned fingerpass+reverse, sonic, twisted sonic, thumb around, charge, and infinity. I think that's about it. So I was wondering if one of you could give me and advice about which trick or combo should I learn.
    Thanks.

    Oh, and sorry if there is already a thread like this one, I didn't found one X:

  20. Nike T
    Date: Wed, Oct 31 2007 18:44:35

    I think you should try a shadow or TA reverse, if you're lost you should look at Kam's learning order, or maybe the trick book thing somewhere. It's just a list of tricks and you can pick one, but I don't think these kinds of threads are recommended.

  21. jwz
    Date: Wed, Oct 31 2007 20:35:42

    Go to 'advanced tricks > video tutorials' and try out some new tricks.
    It's all about personal preferences regarding which trick you learn next.
    An advice could be: learn reverse sonic 23 34 & 12 23, theyre good for linking tricks.

  22. K4S
    Date: Wed, Oct 31 2007 21:20:30

    Learn whatever you want! It's what all the cool people do.

  23. Mats
    Date: Wed, Oct 31 2007 21:22:47

    Apperently the fundamentals and their reverses are pretty important. Sonic Reverse, ThumbAround Reverse, and Charge would be 3 very good tricks to learn next. Then... the world is yours to conquer!

  24. QuestionMark
    Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 18:54:53

    Thanks everyone =]
    I tried looking at the tutorials but there were so many weird named tricks for me, so I decided to ask tongue.gif
    But thanks anyway, I'll try ^^

  25. Novastrike
    Date: Sat, Nov 3 2007 16:06:40

    I started ard a mth ago too.
    Besides the fundamentals and all the tricks you mentioned, I learned shadow, double TA, twisted sonic bust, bak rev. I think that's about it. Combo wise, learned K4LC. Btw, I am learning from Eso's youtube tutorial. It's easy to understand, he teaches a lot concepts.
    Btw, I am trying to smoothen all the tricks I had learned so far...
    What I can say is, learn whatever you like, spin it WITH YOUR WAY! =)

  26. cyber penguin
    Date: Mon, Nov 5 2007 16:00:23

    try learning the Korean backaround, it gives you some interesting two-trick combo opportunity.

  27. DIGIMON
    Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 08:14:58

    hey guys... i think ive got the thumbaround, sonic, charge, and fingerpass down, with the fingerpass being the hardest so far... so now, since ive got the hang of the fundamentals, which trick should i start with next? i'm pretty lost with all these fancy trick terms...

  28. K4S
    Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 08:23:21

    learn whatever you want, its what the cool people do. However, if you're one of those newbie lemmings who needs to be told exactly do i suppose you can start practicing shadows/backarounds.

  29. sketching
    Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 08:31:47

    Either read through the Advanced Tricks forum or look through the Tricks category of the UPSB Wiki and find tricks that look interesting to you.

  30. WhiteFang
    Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 09:26:34

    learn the fundemental Rev!!

  31. 11Thrasher11
    Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 17:13:40

    Maybe a backaround those are easy.

  32. sketching
    Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 17:20:27

    May as well put all of these threads together, more opinions in one place. Similar threads about what to learn next merged.

    Kam's learning order chart can also give you some ideas.

  33. PSPOGO
    Date: Sat, Nov 17 2007 02:58:48

    Wow! Some of you guys learn really quickly... Man, I just cant seem to find the time because of school. I only know Sonic + rev, TA + rev (harmonic), charge + rev, fingerpass, bak (korean), fingerless TA, indexaround, twisted sonic, sonic rise/fall harmonic, tap (half and sometimes full), infinity + extended infinity or double (i dont really know what they're called but it is the one where you do infinity then move it down to you middle finger 23 and i can do the infinity then the charge thinggy..) thats about it but you guys learned heaps and I have been spinning way longer lol... I am a noob!

  34. Nike T
    Date: Sat, Nov 17 2007 13:17:57

    Lol, don't worry I feel the exact same way, we all move at different paces and I'm sure you'll get better, just keep learning and experiment with linking tricks

  35. Mak
    Date: Fri, Dec 21 2007 19:27:12


    hello! can someone help me plz?i've been in pen spinning business for some time now and i feel like i know the basics already, and i can't find a combo that suits me!i've been researching everywhere!

    these are the tricks i can do:
    -Sonics:
    -twisted
    -normal-inverse
    -Shadow
    -TA (all types)
    -infinity
    -charge

    and i think that's all...plz tell me a cool combo with (some of) these.

    QUOTE (PSPOGO @ Nov 17 2007, 02:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Wow! Some of you guys learn really quickly... Man, I just cant seem to find the time because of school. I only know Sonic + rev, TA + rev (harmonic), charge + rev, fingerpass, bak (korean), fingerless TA, indexaround, twisted sonic, sonic rise/fall harmonic, tap (half and sometimes full), infinity + extended infinity or double (i dont really know what they're called but it is the one where you do infinity then move it down to you middle finger 23 and i can do the infinity then the charge thinggy..) thats about it but you guys learned heaps and I have been spinning way longer lol... I am a noob!


    i practice at school...xDD

  36. sketching
    Date: Fri, Dec 21 2007 19:31:16

    -Sonics:
    -twisted
    -normal-inverse
    -Shadow
    -TA (all types)
    -infinity
    -charge


    Sonic 34-23 > Wiper Rev 23 > Pass Nor 23-34 > Pass Nor 34-23 > Twisted Sonic 23-12 ~ Shadow 12-12 > Pass Rev 12-T1 > Thumbaround Nor T1-T1 > Wiper Rev T1 > Pass Nor T1-12 > Wiper Rev 12 > Pass Nor 12-23 > Wiper Rev 23 > Pass Nor 23-34 > Charge 34 > Sonic 34-12 > Twisted Sonic 12-T1 > Thumbaround Nor T1-23 > Inverse Sonic 23-12 > Shadow Nor 12-23 > Shadow Nor 23-34

  37. t3tsubo
    Date: Sat, Dec 22 2007 06:25:20

    QUOTE (sketching @ Dec 21 2007, 12:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Sonic 34-23 > Wiper Rev 23 > Pass Nor 23-34 > Pass Nor 34-23 > Twisted Sonic 23-12 ~ Shadow 12-12 > Pass Rev 12-T1 > Thumbaround Nor T1-T1 > Wiper Rev T1 > Pass Nor T1-12 > Wiper Rev 12 > Pass Nor 12-23 > Wiper Rev 23 > Pass Nor 23-34 > Charge 34 > Sonic 34-12 > Twisted Sonic 12-T1 > Thumbaround Nor T1-23 > Inverse Sonic 23-12 > Shadow Nor 12-23 > Shadow Nor 23-34


    id like to see a vid of this huh.gif

  38. Mak
    Date: Sat, Dec 22 2007 18:29:20

    QUOTE (t3tsubo @ Dec 22 2007, 06:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    id like to see a vid of this huh.gif


    give me a week and i'll show you!!


    (hopefully o.o''''')

  39. sadi teh pirate
    Date: Sun, Dec 23 2007 07:33:28

    I got it the other way around...I learned Sonic(Rise and fall),Charge,twisted sonic, Demon's Sonic and flick, but i havnt learned TA yet....should i learn it before i learn shadow???

  40. sketching
    Date: Sun, Dec 23 2007 07:40:05

    If you are comfortable with Sonic, then go ahead and learn Shadow, and learn everythin else based around the Conic motion. Your combos won't be as exciting though, but a beginning shouldn't have to worry about exciting combos.

    If you want to vary up with tricks of different spin types, then I would suggest moving onto to something like Thumbaround so that your combos will not look so similar.

    It just depends on what you want to do, continue to learn everything you can based around what you already know, then learn a new base trick that you will expand upon later just like you did with Sonic, or choose now to learn something different then learn more tricks based around both spin types: Conic and Around. It's all up to you.

  41. raelz
    Date: Tue, Jan 1 2008 22:15:38

    What should I do next?

    So, I know alot of tricks now, I ain't really comfortable with alot of them, but there are very few tricks I can't do at all (moonwalk sonic).
    I don't ask for specific trick to learn. The thing is that I am already starting to get bored of learning every trick, so I was thinking about doing combos. The question is, do you think it is anyhow going to be unwise in the (near) future? Since I think it's perfectly okay, but still it seems pretty soon after two months.. dno

  42. Teatime
    Date: Thu, Jan 3 2008 11:28:08

    Start working on linking, doing a trick once in 10 tries doesn't count as well so start working on consistency. You'll start to enjoy spinning a lot more.

  43. ehntoo
    Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 22:37:01

    Yayyyy. I can do twisted sonics.

    Here's what I have sorta down:
    -Thumbaround
    -Charge
    -Sonic
    -NeoSonic
    -Twisted Sonic

    I still need to improve on them all but I can get em about half the time. What tricks should I learn next?

  44. someone09
    Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 22:38:02

    I'd suggest ta reverse or sonic reverse

  45. ehntoo
    Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 23:32:35

    QUOTE (someone09 @ Apr 21 2008, 06:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I'd suggest ta reverse or sonic reverse


    How do you do a TA rev. I can't do it under control. I have to flick the pen very fast and it looks spastic and way to fast. At what angle should my hand be?

  46. someone09
    Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 23:39:04

    same as a normal TA?

  47. ehntoo
    Date: Tue, Apr 22 2008 00:03:20

    Ok. I got my hands on a longer pen and put the cap on the back and TA rev is much, much easier now.

  48. Sleeve
    Date: Tue, Apr 22 2008 15:09:52

    QUOTE (ehntoo @ Apr 21 2008, 08:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Ok. I got my hands on a longer pen and put the cap on the back and TA rev is much, much easier now.

    Same thing happened to e...I couldn't do it until I had a more balanced pen.

  49. Noob
    Date: Tue, Apr 22 2008 15:24:56

    What should I do next?

    I know how to do:
    -Thumbaround
    -Thumbaround Reverse
    -Fingerpass (not very smooth)
    -Charge
    -and I just learned how to do sonic, whoot!

  50. someone09
    Date: Tue, Apr 22 2008 15:30:12

    Sonic reverse
    then I'd suggest shadow or finger arounds

  51. Noob
    Date: Tue, Apr 22 2008 15:34:18

    im still a bit confused about shadow after viewing eso's tutorial

  52. someone09
    Date: Tue, Apr 22 2008 15:40:41

    Basically I do a charge palm-down, but keep the index finger low after 1/2 a revolution so the pen slips out. Then I lift the index finger up higher than my middle so the pen slides back in.

  53. Jacobä
    Date: Tue, Apr 22 2008 18:12:44

    ThumbAround
    ThumbAround Rev
    Continuous ThumbAround
    Charge
    Charge Rev
    Sonic
    Sonic Rev
    Fingerpass
    Fingerpass Rev
    Twisted Sonic
    Double Charge

    Is there something else that's good to learn before trying baks, shadows and arounds?

  54. someone09
    Date: Tue, Apr 22 2008 18:27:45

    You could try infinities.

  55. PenCell
    Date: Tue, Apr 22 2008 23:57:46

    yea try infinities or try learning k4lc

  56. Proof
    Date: Fri, May 2 2008 16:29:48

    each of the fundamentals branches out into it's own family of tricks. you can do TA so you could go on to learn reverse, harmonic, continuous some of which are kind of advanced. theres no rule that says you have to progress in all areas of spinning at the same time...
    but then again if you want to learn any other tricks later on it will be a pain to have to learn the sonic from scrach.....
    but you can do what you like...

  57. Jacobä
    Date: Tue, May 6 2008 18:10:43

    After a hard week of training now i can do these tricks:

    Charge
    Charge Reverse
    ThumbAround
    ThumbAround Reverse
    ThumbSpin (1.5 ~ 2.5)
    Sonic
    Sonic Reverse
    Inverse Sonic
    Twisted Sonic (all 4 variations
    Warped Sonic (all 4 variations)
    Infinity
    IndexAround
    MIddleAround
    Faked Reverse
    Neosonic
    Twisted Sonic Bust
    Shadow Still (12-12)

    And with a medium success rate / smoothness:
    Fingerpass
    Fingerpass Reverse
    Fingerless ThumbAround
    Fingerless ThumbAround Reverse
    Korean BackAround
    Tornado

    I've been working on linking by the time, but i'd like to know what are now my goals as pen spinner.

    Thanks

  58. someone
    Date: Tue, May 6 2008 18:48:08

    I suggest you practice combos.
    also learn shadow to/from different slots, double TA, and maybe some hybrids like demon's sonic/around or inverse sonic 23-13 ~> shadow
    work toward bakfall?

  59. sangara
    Date: Wed, May 7 2008 03:08:07

    I would also suggest finding a favorite spinner. That might help on your linking of tricks to get what you want out of a combo.

  60. CudOfCow
    Date: Thu, May 8 2008 21:32:43

    Check out Eso's tutorials on youtube, they helped me out quite a bit when i first started learning the basics.
    You should learn how to do sonics, Thumbarounds, reverse Thumbarounds and possibly halftaps. I think you need to just get used to the pen being in contact with your hand. youtube is a good resource.

    I first started feeling comfortable with learning tricks once i learned how to do the sonic.



    Maybe you should do Twisted Sonic's 12-T1.

  61. someone
    Date: Sat, May 10 2008 18:18:49

    Any suggestions on tricks/hybrids/combos I should work on?

    i can do

    fundamentals
    thumb, index, middle around
    MA reverse (working on IA reverse)
    shadows (2.0)
    neobaks
    inverse sonic
    fl ta
    fl ta reverse
    tw sonic bust (34-23 and 23-12), inconsistent double bust
    index-pinky baks
    twisted sonics
    sonic clips
    neosonic
    thumbspin (2.0)
    fingerless thumbspin (1.5)
    full taps
    faked reverse
    demon's sonic
    devil's sonic/around/shadow
    inverse sonic/shadow hybrid
    spider spin
    scissor spin
    palm spin (other hand starts)
    inverse shadow (1.5s, not very smooth)
    triangle pass
    quadruple infinity, inverse, ext
    ta ext./fake double
    double TA
    bak rev
    tipped sonic

  62. sangara
    Date: Sun, May 11 2008 01:02:42

    You have a decent trick list, I wouldn't really suggest anything but acutally just linking and finding a favorite spinner. Atleast thats what helped me, I would go find vids and look for mini combos inside them, once you have a good idea mini combos and what not, shoot for a goal to spin like somone. This should help, it helped me, especially the favorite spinner part.

  63. Ralys
    Date: Tue, May 13 2008 08:39:35

    i can do:

    Shadow
    Tw sonic bust rise fall
    Baks
    Arounds
    fundamentals obv
    TS up to 2.5
    Infinity up to triple extend
    Taps
    scissor spin
    triangle pass

    what to do next?

  64. pen_MAKer
    Date: Tue, May 13 2008 10:59:20

    QUOTE (Ralys @ May 13 2008, 09:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    i can do:

    Shadow up to 3.5
    Tw sonic bust rise fall
    Baks
    Arounds
    fundamentals obv
    TS up to 2.5
    Infinity up to triple extend
    Taps
    scissor spin
    triangle pass

    what to do next?


    you could start practicing like inverse sonic or all the charges, or even fingerpass

  65. Gunblakes
    Date: Tue, May 13 2008 11:04:23

    Everyone can always benefit from a smoother FP/rev FP. laugh.gif

  66. ehntoo
    Date: Wed, May 14 2008 23:59:55

    What are some good tricks that link well to Tsonic bust and tsonic normal?

    Thanks.

  67. Tioloco
    Date: Fri, May 16 2008 19:28:16

    if anyone doesnt know what trick to do next, as is was the initial objective of this thread, i recommend him/her to see this other POST

  68. someone
    Date: Fri, May 16 2008 19:57:40

    You should make some combos with those shadows. High spins look great.

  69. 000zero0000
    Date: Sat, May 17 2008 03:32:12

    bakfall woo!!

  70. Jacobä
    Date: Sun, May 18 2008 15:56:27

    QUOTE (Ralys @ May 13 2008, 05:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    i can do:

    Shadow up to 3.5
    Tw sonic bust rise fall
    Baks
    Arounds
    fundamentals obv
    TS up to 2.5
    Infinity up to triple extend
    Taps
    scissor spin
    triangle pass

    what to do next?

    Hybrids like Devil's/Demon's Sonic/Shadow

  71. CudOfCow
    Date: Tue, May 20 2008 19:37:04

    I have gotten into the habit of spinning with my T, 1 and 2. Almost all of my tricks seem to involve these three fingers. Does anyone have any tips for tricks using the fingers 1-4. I need to get better at not using my thumb for everything. Not that i dont love the thumb, i love it. I love the thumb. But i feel like i rely on this apendage more than i should in order to do any combos.

    I have a hard time doing Twisted Sonics from 34-23, i cant seem to get my middle and ring fingers far enough apart in order to make the catch. I can do them inverse, and regular and reverse between all fingers but just not regular Twisted sonic from 34-23. I can charge between 12 and 23. i cant charge between 34, .13, or 24...and nevermind 14. I can do sonics all over the place, shadows are cake, i've been learning inverse shadows lately.

    I guess what i'm trying to say is that i am having trouble keeping the pen spinning between those 4 fingers. Lots of spinners(ex. erriror) keeps the pen between those fingers almost the entire time. What are you doing differently!?!?!!!!!!! I can keep up Cont. RevBak->FL TA's all day long but the second i get the pen over to my main 4 fingers, i am just bouncing sonics all over the place...it looks like crap, hahaha

    TIPS APPRECIATED!!!!! Any combos between those fingers I NEED TO KNOW!

    I have been trying double charges but i cant seem to get the pass correctly

  72. Jacobä
    Date: Fri, May 30 2008 09:32:14

    Fingerarounds mixed with sonics are usually a good option for these fingerss.
    Also try Alan's short combo tutorial (youtube is currently offline). Maybe it's going to help you,

  73. Outsmash
    Date: Mon, Aug 11 2008 14:19:20

    Sonic and charge are the foundation to a lot of new tricks. People take a lot of time to get it but its useful.eg: twisted sonic, shadow, double charge, demons sonic, rising fans,etc.
    Maybe you should not skip the fundamentals. You could skip fingerpass though...its not that useful but it looks really cool when done smooth.

  74. Bigbud
    Date: Thu, Aug 21 2008 21:33:55

    QUOTE (K4S @ Sep 26 2007, 08:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Learn the fundamentals...it makes learning harder stuff less of a pain in the ass


    My goal in life is to do that... working on it right now...

  75. Heva
    Date: Mon, Sep 22 2008 15:26:56

    -TA
    -Fingerpass( not so smooth)
    -Charge(not very good)
    -Sonic
    -Infinity

    these are wad i learnt on these past 5 days....what shud i learn next?

  76. Outsmash
    Date: Mon, Sep 22 2008 16:04:54

    QUOTE (Heva @ Sep 22 2008, 08:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    -TA
    -Fingerpass( not so smooth)
    -Charge(not very good)
    -Sonic
    -Infinity

    these are wad i learnt on these past 5 days....what shud i learn next?


    5 days? fast!! anyways you can learn:
    TA Rev
    Sonic Rev
    Twisted Sonic ( get you charge smooth)
    Shadow (maybe)
    FingerPass

    Probably after that you'll know what to do.

  77. Sk8boy175
    Date: Mon, Sep 22 2008 21:06:19

    I feel like a noob..I've never taken the time to actually post what i can do

    Thumbaround
    Reverse thumbaround
    Charge (palm up and palm down)
    Top spin charge (don't ask, its a charge but im using the top "section" of my fingers..)
    Sonic (palm up and down)
    Top spin sonic (again, a sonic on the top section of my fingers..i don't know why i call it that)
    Twisted sonic (palm up and down)
    Twisted sonic bust (palm up and down)
    Top spin twisted sonic
    Thumbaround>stall>reverse thumbaround (i consider it one trick, i make a little dip in between my finger 1 and thumb and stop the pen from continuing, then using the fingerless thumbaround and flick it and it goes the way it came, or reverse)
    Figure 8
    Thumbaround>release (one trick)
    Cardioid (thumbaround + wiper..look it up on Youtube)
    Scissor spin (again, Youtube)
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    *This next one is hard to explain..
    Picture a MX, i hold the grip so the cap is up in the air, with my thumb and 1st finger. I then release it and let it fall back to my Finger 1 and my finger 2 and catch it, then take my thumb and "help" the pen complete one revolution around my first finger..i don't know what it is called..I want to say either half rev or a back fall or fingerpass..anyone want to help?*

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    Combos that I've come up with

    Top spin twisted sonic 23-12 > figure 8 > thumbaround-stall-reverse ta > (catch 23) regular (or reverse) twisted sonic 23-12 > cardioid > figure 8 > fallback t1 12 > fallback t1 12 > repeat.

    Top spin charge > twisted (reverse..i think) sonic > thumbaround > stall-reverse > (catch 23) regular (or reverse) twisted sonic 23-12 > usually i repeat everything except the top spin charge or finish with two fall backs t1-12.
    (The two are very similar i know)

    I do other combo's but those are the 2 i like to show off with and do most often
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    Any tips/improvements/comments/other tricks i should learn/ are much appreciated smile.gif


  78. Missle_Z
    Date: Mon, Sep 22 2008 23:08:28

    QUOTE (Sk8boy175 @ Sep 22 2008, 02:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I feel like a noob..I've never taken the time to actually post what i can do

    Thumbaround
    Reverse thumbaround
    Charge (palm up and palm down)
    Top spin charge (don't ask, its a charge but im using the top "section" of my fingers..)
    Sonic (palm up and down)
    Top spin sonic (again, a sonic on the top section of my fingers..i don't know why i call it that)
    Twisted sonic (palm up and down)
    Twisted sonic bust (palm up and down)
    Top spin twisted sonic
    Thumbaround>stall>reverse thumbaround (i consider it one trick, i make a little dip in between my finger 1 and thumb and stop the pen from continuing, then using the fingerless thumbaround and flick it and it goes the way it came, or reverse)
    Figure 8
    Thumbaround>release (one trick)
    Cardioid (thumbaround + wiper..look it up on Youtube)
    Scissor spin (again, Youtube)
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    *This next one is hard to explain..
    Picture a MX, i hold the grip so the cap is up in the air, with my thumb and 1st finger. I then release it and let it fall back to my Finger 1 and my finger 2 and catch it, then take my thumb and "help" the pen complete one revolution around my first finger..i don't know what it is called..I want to say either half rev or a back fall or fingerpass..anyone want to help?*

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    Combos that I've come up with

    Top spin twisted sonic 23-12 > figure 8 > thumbaround-stall-reverse ta > (catch 23) regular (or reverse) twisted sonic 23-12 > cardioid > figure 8 > fallback t1 12 > fallback t1 12 > repeat.

    Top spin charge > twisted (reverse..i think) sonic > thumbaround > stall-reverse > (catch 23) regular (or reverse) twisted sonic 23-12 > usually i repeat everything except the top spin charge or finish with two fall backs t1-12.
    (The two are very similar i know)

    I do other combo's but those are the 2 i like to show off with and do most often
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    Any tips/improvements/comments/other tricks i should learn/ are much appreciated smile.gif

    I don't quite understand the top spin thing, but learn multiple infinities and extended infinities.

  79. schlynn
    Date: Mon, Sep 22 2008 23:38:31

    I know:
    charge (only 23)
    ta
    fl ta rev
    a form of finger pass, physicly cant do a full finger pass, tendens in hand wont let me
    sonic
    twisted sonic
    twisted sonic bust (not perfect)
    korean bak (not perfect)
    a Thumbspin ~ Indexaround 0.5 T1-12 hybrid
    demon's sonic
    K4LC
    rising sonic

    Thats about it, what next?

  80. Outsmash
    Date: Wed, Sep 24 2008 12:01:20

    QUOTE (schlynn @ Sep 23 2008, 06:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I know:
    charge (only 23)
    ta
    fl ta rev
    a form of finger pass, physicly cant do a full finger pass, tendens in hand wont let me
    sonic
    twisted sonic
    twisted sonic bust (not perfect)
    korean bak (not perfect)
    a Thumbspin ~ Indexaround 0.5 T1-12 hybrid
    demon's sonic
    K4LC
    rising sonic

    Thats about it, what next?


    IT"S CALLED SONIC RISE!!.....

  81. TheOnion
    Date: Wed, Sep 24 2008 14:33:35

    QUOTE (schlynn @ Sep 23 2008, 01:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I know:
    charge (only 23)
    ta
    fl ta rev
    a form of finger pass, physicly cant do a full finger pass, tendens in hand wont let me
    sonic
    twisted sonic
    twisted sonic bust (not perfect)
    korean bak (not perfect)
    a Thumbspin ~ Indexaround 0.5 T1-12 hybrid
    demon's sonic
    K4LC
    rising sonic

    Thats about it, what next?


    TA rev
    BackAround (so you can go backaround>fl ta rev)
    Sonic Fall
    Shadow

  82. Point
    Date: Sun, Sep 28 2008 22:21:00

    let's see, i have perfected
    (reverse) charge
    (reverse) sonic any slot except 12 to T1
    (reverse) TA
    (extended)(double) infinity and figure 8 [not too sure how to use these in combos]
    double charge 23
    neo-sonic
    demon sonic 34 to 12 (or is it devil? the non-shadow one)

    i can do the following but with some difficulty
    (reverse) half tap
    double TA
    thumbspin 1.5
    (reverse) fingeraround
    (reverse) fingerpass
    triangle pass

    and i've failed miserably at trying to learn
    shadows
    baks
    extended TA
    reverse double TA

    so now i'm looking for opinions. which tricks should i do next? perfect the second part, spend months of hardcore practice trying to learn the 3rd part, or something new entirely?

  83. shoeman6
    Date: Sun, Sep 28 2008 22:27:53

    Shutup will you?
    That comment was directed to someones comment who was above me but was removed, not you point.)

    How about sonic clip? =]

  84. Point
    Date: Sun, Sep 28 2008 22:42:40

    QUOTE (shoeman6 @ Sep 28 2008, 03:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Shutup will you?


    How about sonic clip? =]


    no you `-`
    why sonic clip of all trick btw?

  85. nada
    Date: Mon, Sep 29 2008 00:32:10

    get all the funds down in the slots, then make some combos with them. after that learn more advanced tricks

  86. shoeman6
    Date: Mon, Sep 29 2008 02:44:43

    QUOTE (Point @ Sep 28 2008, 05:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    no you `-`
    why sonic clip of all trick btw?

    because hes asking for what trick he should do next and i'm making a suggestion....


    Yah fundies in all slots shud be the enxt step also, learning to many tricks but not completley isnt a very good way of learning tricks, because youhave to practice multiple tricks everyday =]

  87. Point
    Date: Mon, Sep 29 2008 03:15:43

    mm..well for fundies i think i can do them in all slots except for maybe charge 34 and pinky push TA. if it's that important to learn those 2 tricks i guess i will o.o. i've made a combo that i spam once in a while: sonic 34-23 -> tw sonic 23-12 -> TA 12-12 -> Reverse TA 12-23 -> sonic 23-12 -> neosonic 12-TF. i really wanna know how to use infinities in combos btw dry.gif i don't get how to get my fingers from the tip of the pen to the middle.

  88. Sidewinder
    Date: Mon, Sep 29 2008 03:18:07

    Seasick FTW

  89. shoeman6
    Date: Mon, Sep 29 2008 03:20:37

    thumb arround may be the easiet way ;D

  90. Jiinn
    Date: Mon, Sep 29 2008 07:59:08

    TA
    TA rev
    Charge
    Sonic
    Sonic rev
    a bad fingerpass
    inverse sonic
    twisted sonic
    moonwalk sonic
    shadow
    sonic rise
    infinity
    bak
    neobak
    scissor spin
    flick (not mastered)
    TA Extended
    learning flush sonic...

  91. Scandiacus
    Date: Wed, Oct 1 2008 11:15:36

    TA/reverse/harmonic
    Sonic/reverse/rise/fall/harmonic
    Charge 23/Charge Reverse 12
    Twisted Sonic Bust
    Twisted Sonic 23-12
    Demon Sonic 34-12
    Inverse Sonic 23-12
    Fingerpass/reverse (still choppy though)
    Infinity/double/triple
    Infinity Extended/double
    Shadow still (done through luck)

    Still learning how to do Bak, Flush Sonic, iSonic and Devil's Sonic

  92. (.BC.) David
    Date: Sat, Oct 4 2008 17:58:31

    You should both learn to do arounds.

  93. Sidewinder
    Date: Tue, Oct 7 2008 03:44:36

    And maybe some devil tricks like Devils Sonic/Around/Shadow

  94. Kari
    Date: Tue, Oct 7 2008 19:04:06

    I want to learn double bust but I also want to learn everything with my left hand that I already know with my right. What do you suggest?

  95. NinjaKai
    Date: Tue, Oct 7 2008 23:37:01

    I Know:

    TA, Reverse TA, Continuous TA, Fingerless TA
    Back around
    Charge (1-2 , 2-3 , 3-4)
    Sonic, Rising Sonic, Twisted Sonic (Using the reverse Pass, and the Normal pass)
    Taps(Record: 5), Half Taps, Back Taps
    Infinity (Can go continuous) Extended Infinity, Double infinity

    (I No longer use the thumbvflap)

    Where Shall I go from here?

  96. nada
    Date: Tue, Oct 7 2008 23:44:20

    seriously if you can't, I strongly suggest learning the funds in every slot - being able to link them is important.

  97. V2D
    Date: Wed, Oct 8 2008 00:43:27

    Uhm,I have:
    Fudamental skill,
    twisted sonic
    twisted sonic bust
    shadow
    devil
    infinity
    backfall
    K4LC
    sonic rise(of course)
    fake

    what should I do next.

  98. nada
    Date: Wed, Oct 8 2008 00:57:39

    arounds, combos

  99. FrozenIce
    Date: Wed, Oct 8 2008 00:57:47

    QUOTE (V2D @ Oct 7 2008, 05:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Uhm,I have:
    Fudamental skill,
    twisted sonic
    twisted sonic bust
    shadow
    devil
    infinity
    backfall
    K4LC
    sonic rise(of course)
    fake

    what should I do next.


    Bakfall already? Wow, very impressive...Anways, you should learn some finger arounds (middlearound, ringaround, pinkaround). You might also consider learning twisted sonic reverse, inverse twisted sonic, and inverse twisted sonic reverse. And if you haven't done so already, learn the reverses of the fundamentals.

    EDIT: nada beat me to it, but yeah, definitely learn some arounds.

  100. wheelson
    Date: Mon, Oct 13 2008 23:47:53

    I'm kind of stuck

    I know
    thumb around/rev
    sonic
    sonic reverse/ fall all slots
    charge/rev all slots
    twisted sonic/rev (all slots rev)
    infinity/ figure 8
    bad fingerpass


    shadow still (I can do it once every 200 tries dry.gif)
    thumb around harmonic (working on it)

  101. l3east
    Date: Mon, Oct 13 2008 23:54:30

    well im still trying to rev ta but i cant skip this cuz this move is very important in some combos

  102. riverboy
    Date: Thu, Oct 16 2008 03:02:26


    QUOTE (PoisonedV @ Sep 26 2007, 01:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    OK, I have mastered 1.0 thumbaround and gotten very smooth at fingerpass. I, on the other hand, can't do a charge or sonic worth shit. Should I keep trying those or, like some people in IRC suggested, move onto other tricks? If so, what tricks?

    I suggest Charge 23 first.. because with the charge you could just pass it onto the next set of fingers which is 12.In short you can do sonic 23-12 if you learn charge. Just keep practicing bro,and you'll get the hang of it.

    Once, you master the funds the other tricks will be easy as pie. especially if you master charge. you could do tricks such as warped sonic,twisted sonic, double charge etc.. happy.gif

  103. Take-a-chill-pill
    Date: Thu, Oct 23 2008 13:56:18

    QUOTE (l3east @ Oct 14 2008, 12:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    well im still trying to rev ta but i cant skip this cuz this move is very important in some combos


    13east i had the same fkin prob cool.gif
    Learn the TA Harmonic before the TA Rev trust me it helps ALOT happy.gif
    I Couldn't learn it, i had to skip it and learn other tricks, then i went 2 TA Harmonic and then i learned it and found out that i could do TA Rev biggrin.gif

  104. Kachineo
    Date: Thu, Oct 23 2008 21:55:58

    guys what do u think could be good learning now?, I have learned - thumbAround+inverse, fingerpass+inverse(not very smooth), charge(only 23 , my 12 or 34 sucks), sonic +inverse(inverse only in 12-23) twisted sonic(only 32-21) infinity, extended infinity, multiple infinity, finguer around(only 12), am about to learn double TA, 1/8 works. oops, forgot the fingerless TA

    I think that thats all, what should I learn now?

    or maybe smooth all the tricks I have learned, none of them is very smooth, or maybe try to learn that tricks that flexibilizes or strech ur finguers, like sonic flush, clip , or char 14?? ii dunno pls help me, everything llooks confusing ^^, BTW pen spinning r0cks, i will do this for all my life.

    Firmed, Kachineo.

  105. FrozenIce
    Date: Fri, Oct 24 2008 01:24:01

    I think by inverse thumbaround, you mean REVERSE thumbaround. There's no such thing as an inverse thumbaround.

    You seem to be saying that you need to get your tricks down and smooth. I HIGHLY recommend you do that. Also, work on getting your thumbarounds consistent if you haven't so already.

    If you master charge in all finger slots, I recommend that you learn charge reverse. It helps a lot when you do more advanced stuff.

    But right now, you can move on to Neosonic, a relatively simple trick to master. And since you know Fingerless thumbaround, you should learn Fingerless Thumbaround reverse.

  106. P.B
    Date: Fri, Oct 24 2008 01:33:18

    Yeah i need help to, pretty new only been PS for bout 3weeks. I can do all fundementals good. Sonic rise (pretty choppy), sonic twisted, neo sonic, TA reverse, TA harmonic (a little), Korenback, middle around, shadow, infinity, fingerless TA, TA 2 revelutions, weis backaround and thats all i think. So what should i learn? is there a specific order? Thanks every1 bye biggrin.gif

  107. octan3
    Date: Fri, Oct 24 2008 01:36:12

    there's no specific order.
    i would advise learning the revs os fundamentals, and hmm... i would say bak and around for all fingers.(i need to work on that lol)

  108. fatalfury28
    Date: Fri, Oct 24 2008 10:23:02

    Well I can do all of the basics (except charge rev,sonic rev)
    shadow
    infinity(all)
    index around
    mid around
    Fl ta
    Fl ta rev
    tipped sonic
    twisted sonic
    demon sonic
    neo sonic
    thumbspin 1.5

    what shoud I learn next?

  109. Take-a-chill-pill
    Date: Fri, Oct 24 2008 10:53:15

    QUOTE (Kachineo @ Oct 23 2008, 10:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    guys what do u think could be good learning now?, I have learned - thumb Around+inverse, finger pass+inverse(not very smooth), charge(only 23 , my 12 or 34 sucks), sonic +inverse(inverse only in 12-23) twisted sonic(only 32-21) infinity, extended infinity, multiple infinity, finger around(only 12), am about to learn double TA, 1/8 works. oops, forgot the fingerless TA.

    I think that that's all, what should I learn now?

    or maybe smooth all the tricks I have learned, none of them is very smooth, or maybe try to learn that tricks that make your fingers flexible or stretch, like sonic flush, clip , or char 14?? ii dunno please help me, everything looks confusing ^^, BTW pen spinning r0cks, i will do this for all my life.

    Firmed, Kachineo.


    Next time PLEASE lay it out as follows or u can do this
    Thumb around (+ Reverse)

    So from what i'm hearing you know:
    Thumb around
    Thumb around Reverse
    Finger pass
    Finger pass Reverse
    Sonic
    Sonic Reverse (T_T How comes i cant learn it any tips o.O biggrin.gif)
    Charge (23)
    Twisted sonic (23-12)
    Infinity
    Extended infinity
    Multiple infinity (remind me what this is, is it just continuous infinity?)
    Index Around
    Fingerless Ta

    K seeming that you've learned the FL Ta (fingerless Thumb around) you should learn the Fingerless Thumb around Rev but this is the order id like you to learn the rest of the tricks, as follows and the infinity's should be easy (Not easy for me) biggrin.gif:

    Double Infinity
    Triple Infinity
    Warped Sonic
    Sonic Rise (smooth)
    Demons Sonic
    Thumb flap charge Reverse
    Fingerless Thumb around reverse


    I had the trouble cause i was bored to fix all of your grammar biggrin.gif.

  110. Jiinn
    Date: Fri, Oct 24 2008 10:54:19

    well TA rev if you havent already... huh.gif

  111. Kachineo
    Date: Sat, Oct 25 2008 02:22:31

    thanks guys, I really apreciate your help, I think I will go smooth some techniques, thanks

  112. BL4CKCR4Y0NS
    Date: Sun, Oct 26 2008 03:35:56

    There're two tricks I want to learn right now ...

    Shadow Still

    Korean Bak (is that how you spell it?)




    But I want to learn the easier one first ... does anyone have anything to say about both of these? Which should I learn first?

    I'm pretty new to penspinning ...


    So far I know the...
    Charge
    Thumbaround
    Sonic
    Twisted Sonic
    Infinity


    [will any of these 5 tricks that I know help me with learning the Shadow Still & the Korean Bak?]

    (is this in the right section? sorry if this is in the wrong section.)

  113. Jiinn
    Date: Sun, Oct 26 2008 03:37:03

    Charge will help with shadow still.

  114. BL4CKCR4Y0NS
    Date: Sun, Oct 26 2008 05:21:42

    QUOTE (Jiinn @ Oct 26 2008, 02:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Charge will help with shadow still.



    I dunno ... I watched a few tutorials and one of them (I don't remember whos) said that you should do a charge motion because a charge is too circular so you should just MOVE your hand in a circular motion ... which will move the pen into more of a oval shape so it's easier to let the pen slide along the top of your fingers..


    Is that true?

  115. Ogarathe
    Date: Sun, Oct 26 2008 05:47:43

    QUOTE (BL4CKCR4Y0NS @ Oct 26 2008, 04:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I dunno ... I watched a few tutorials and one of them (I don't remember whos) said that you should do a charge motion because a charge is too circular so you should just MOVE your hand in a circular motion ... which will move the pen into more of a oval shape so it's easier to let the pen slide along the top of your fingers..


    Is that true?


    You want the charge motion to be circular. And knowing how to do a charge helps with that. You don't need the full revolution, just 0.5 for the start of a shadow.

  116. BL4CKCR4Y0NS
    Date: Sun, Oct 26 2008 05:56:20

    QUOTE (Ogarathe @ Oct 26 2008, 04:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    You want the charge motion to be circular. And knowing how to do a charge helps with that. You don't need the full revolution, just 0.5 for the start of a shadow.



    But if it's too circular, the pen won't slide onto the top of your fingers?

  117. Take-a-chill-pill
    Date: Sun, Oct 26 2008 10:11:16

    QUOTE (BL4CKCR4Y0NS @ Oct 26 2008, 05:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    But if it's too circular, the pen won't slide onto the top of your fingers?


    Hm black crayons, learn the shadow first if you haven't, i never learned the shadow before i done the shadow still but it will help biggrin.gif also some tips:

    1. With the shadow still you have to shake your hand a bit, Shake it to much and it will FALL OFF! (Basically you lose xD)

    2. While doing the shake, don't actually shake it, make a semi-circle and then your hand MUST STAY STILL when the semi-circle finishes.

    3.Keep on practicing thats how i got it, ive only been spinning since 06/Sep/2008 so you could get it in no time (im not a fast learner sad.gif but keep practicing)

  118. omega
    Date: Mon, Oct 27 2008 09:58:19

    probably practice a trick that uses ur favourite forte. Something combined perhaps?

  119. nada
    Date: Mon, Oct 27 2008 10:20:21

    QUOTE (fatalfury28 @ Oct 24 2008, 06:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Well I can do all of the basics (except charge rev,sonic rev)
    shadow
    infinity(all)
    index around
    mid around
    Fl ta
    Fl ta rev
    tipped sonic
    twisted sonic
    demon sonic
    neo sonic
    thumbspin 1.5

    what shoud I learn next?

    charge rev, sonic rev

  120. triger
    Date: Mon, Oct 27 2008 19:34:08

    Halp biggrin.gif

    I can:

    Sonic +rev (1,5 all w/o rev ones)
    Infinities (up to triple ext)
    Charge
    Charge rev [only 12]
    Backfall
    triangle pass
    shadows (and those ex "moonwalk" ones, all 1.5)
    demon sonic
    TA + rev
    TS
    double charge
    K4L
    twisted sonic bust

    dunno wat to lear next...
    tried reverse shadows, but i failed miserably....

  121. Ogarathe
    Date: Mon, Oct 27 2008 20:28:02

    QUOTE (triger @ Oct 28 2008, 06:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Halp biggrin.gif

    I can:

    Sonic +rev (1,5 all w/o rev ones)
    Infinities (up to triple ext)
    Charge
    Charge rev [only 12]
    Backfall
    triangle pass
    shadows (and those ex "moonwalk" ones, all 1.5)
    demon sonic
    TA + rev
    TS
    double charge
    K4L
    twisted sonic bust

    dunno wat to lear next...
    tried reverse shadows, but i failed miserably....


    You could try Neo Baks, FL TA/Rev, Double TA, Devils Sonic, Reverse Demon's Sonic, Inverse Sonic, NeoSonic.

  122. Tgz
    Date: Fri, Oct 31 2008 18:59:22

    OK..so I've learned so far...:

    Thumbaround
    Fingerpass
    Sonic
    Thumbaround Reverse
    Twisted Sonic
    Twisted Sonic Bust
    Devil's Sonic
    Charge
    Triangle Pass
    Indexaround
    Infinity
    Figure 8
    Fingerless Thumbaround

    What should I do next?? Links to tutorials would be appreciated!

  123. Take-a-chill-pill
    Date: Fri, Oct 31 2008 19:25:38

    QUOTE (triger @ Oct 27 2008, 07:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Halp biggrin.gif

    I can:

    Sonic +rev (1,5 all w/o rev ones)
    Infinities (up to triple ext)
    Charge
    Charge rev [only 12]
    Backfall
    triangle pass
    shadows (and those ex "moonwalk" ones, all 1.5)
    demon sonic
    TA + rev
    TS
    double charge
    K4L
    twisted sonic bust

    dunno Wat to lear next...
    tried reverse shadows, but i failed miserably....




    Devils Sonic ->
    } (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=llLB2zvFsmA&feature=related)
    Devils Around ->

    Bak Riser ( Should be as easy as 1-2-3 once you've learned the bak) (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_w5BWkFfehM)

    Sonic Rise/Fall Harmonic (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pvfDVd2c5xU)

    Sonic Clip (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=90q20VSuQzQ&feature=related)

    Sonic Clip Rise/Fall Harmonic (Fall will be fairly hard for me O.o i havent learned charge rev but i know sonic rev, but im happy i can do Sonic clip rise) Learn sonic rise/fall harmonic then do Sonic clip instead of sonic and yes i know this isnt a trick im aware of it but still learn it biggrin.gif



    Pm me for help

  124. husong1995
    Date: Sat, Nov 1 2008 03:48:45

    What should I learn next?

    The current tricks I know are:
    TA rev and harmonic
    TS (not very consistent)
    Shadow still
    Charge(12,23, 34 is a bit chunky)
    backaround
    twisted sonic
    demons sonic
    sonic rise
    Fingerless TA (a bit inconsistent)
    Infinity
    half tap and full tap(not very good)
    arounds(23,12)

    should I work on cleaning up my messy tricks or should i just move on and try to learn some new ones? If I just go on and learn new ones, which ones?

  125. Ogarathe
    Date: Sat, Nov 1 2008 04:09:55

    QUOTE (husong1995 @ Nov 1 2008, 02:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    What should I learn next?

    The current tricks I know are:
    TA rev and harmonic
    TS (not very consistent)
    Shadow still
    Charge(12,23, 34 is a bit chunky)
    backaround
    twisted sonic
    demons sonic
    sonic rise
    Fingerless TA (a bit inconsistent)
    Infinity
    half tap and full tap(not very good)
    arounds(23,12)

    should I work on cleaning up my messy tricks or should i just move on and try to learn some new ones? If I just go on and learn new ones, which ones?


    Charge rev and Sonic rev are important so you should def learn those.

  126. Take-a-chill-pill
    Date: Sat, Nov 1 2008 08:29:22

    QUOTE (husong1995 @ Nov 1 2008, 03:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    What should I learn next?

    The current tricks I know are:
    TA rev and harmonic
    TS (not very consistent)
    Shadow still
    Charge(12,23, 34 is a bit chunky)
    backaround
    twisted sonic
    demons sonic
    sonic rise
    Fingerless TA (a bit inconsistent)
    Infinity
    half tap and full tap(not very good)
    arounds(23,12)

    should I work on cleaning up my messy tricks or should i just move on and try to learn some new ones? If I just go on and learn new ones, which ones?



    Fingerless TA Reverse
    Thumbflap Charge Reverse
    Devils Sonic
    Devils around
    Sonic
    Sonic Rev
    Extended Infinity

    Mid Bak
    Ring Bak
    Pinky back (all these bak's can be done later on so skip these if you like happy.gif )

  127. Jiinn
    Date: Sun, Nov 2 2008 10:22:25

    what i know :

    TA
    TA Rev
    Charge
    Sonic
    Fingerpass
    TA Harmonic
    Ext. TA
    FL TA
    FL TA Rev
    Pseudo Sonic
    Sonic Clip
    Flush Sonic
    Tw Sonic
    Warped Sonic
    Inverse Sonic
    NeoSonic
    Inverse Tw Sonic
    Korean Bak
    MidBak
    Wiper
    Figure 8
    Figure 8 Rev
    Infinity
    Inifnity Double, Triple
    Ext Infinity
    Inverse shadow
    IndexAround
    FL IA
    FL IA Rev 11-11
    MiddleAround
    Devil Sonic
    Demon Sonic
    Flick
    Tw Sonic Bust
    Double Charge

    No shadow cause i gave up sleep(1).gif

  128. Take-a-chill-pill
    Date: Sun, Nov 2 2008 11:01:38

    QUOTE (Jiinn @ Nov 2 2008, 10:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    what i know :

    TA
    TA Rev
    Charge
    Sonic
    Fingerpass
    TA Harmonic
    Ext. TA
    FL TA
    FL TA Rev
    Pseudo Sonic
    Sonic Clip
    Flush Sonic
    Tw Sonic
    Warped Sonic
    Inverse Sonic
    NeoSonic
    Inverse Tw Sonic
    Korean Bak
    MidBak
    Wiper
    Figure 8
    Figure 8 Rev
    Infinity
    Inifnity Double, Triple
    Ext Infinity
    Inverse shadow
    IndexAround
    FL IA
    FL IA Rev 11-11
    MiddleAround
    Devil Sonic
    Demon Sonic
    Flick
    Tw Sonic Bust
    Double Charge

    No shadow cause i gave up sleep(1).gif



    Thumbspin 1.5+
    Try doing some freestyles after learning thumbspin 1.5 biggrin.gif

  129. Jiinn
    Date: Sun, Nov 2 2008 12:04:54

    oh i know that already. my most was i think 4.5.. it was a failed ext. TA dry.gif

  130. Outsmash
    Date: Sun, Nov 2 2008 13:19:18

    QUOTE (Jiinn @ Nov 2 2008, 05:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    oh i know that already. my most was i think 4.5.. it was a failed ext. TA dry.gif


    Then try learning charge rev and all the things you can do with it like:
    1 - twisted sonic reverse
    2 - tw sonic bust rev
    3 - Shadow rev
    4 - Demons/Devils Sonic Rev
    5 - Rev Double Charge

    (or)

    Learn double bust..

  131. timon9182
    Date: Thu, Nov 6 2008 20:43:26

    I think you should do the fundamental first becuse then when you go into a tuffer trick its alot easier......and do any trick you want man its free choice....

  132. Shadowserpant
    Date: Fri, Nov 7 2008 04:25:17

    people keep saying fingerpass is useless
    i think it's one of the most important fundementals when it comes to moving on to advanced tricks
    learn the fingerpass.
    master the fingerpass.

  133. Ogarathe
    Date: Sat, Nov 8 2008 15:21:29

    Hey guys,

    I'm kind not sure on what I should do next.. I cbf write up a trick list but I can say it's 40-50+. I've been spinning for about 4 months now, and I'm unclear on what to do next.

    What I've been doing recently is trying to master combos that are about 20-30 tricks long(For showing off at school ^_~). It's taking a long time though.. to get it right. Too long.. so I started thinking if I'm even ready to attempt combos with that many tricks, and whether or not I should be just smoothing out most of my tricks.

    Any help is much appreciated ~

  134. Cawibo
    Date: Sat, Nov 8 2008 16:02:07

    Hello!

    My tricklist atm is:
    Sonic Rise
    Sonic rev. 12-23
    Charge 23
    Charge 12
    TA
    TA rev.
    Fingerless TA rev.
    cont. TA
    Ext. TA
    ThumbSpin
    Twisted Sonic
    Twisted Sonic Bust (Twisted Sonic --> IA?)
    Shadow 23 --> 23
    Shadow 23 --> 12
    Shadow 23 --> 34
    Gunman
    Infinity
    Wiper
    Figure 8
    Fingerpass (imo kinda smooth)
    Fingerpass rev. (not smooth)
    NeoSonic
    Triangle Pass t12
    Halftap
    Fulltap
    Index Around
    Middle Around

    What should I learn now?
    or
    Should I take a break from learning new tricks and try to master these tricks?

  135. SunkaZlo
    Date: Sat, Nov 8 2008 16:38:41

    Many posts are from profi. And what should I do next? xD

    Fingerpass n/r
    Sonic normal 34-23, 23-12
    Sonic rise
    Ta normal only
    Extended Infinity
    Figure 8


    I'm trying to do Twisted Sonic, but I cant understand the moment where you should begin doing pass after charge
    I have watched 5 tutorials about TA rev, but I can understand how to do it:(
    The same with Sonic reverse. I can understand, but I hadn't practised very much. Maybe some time later I would do it sad.gif

  136. Scandiacus
    Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 04:17:32

    Hi guys, can't really think up of any decent combo though.

    Trick list:

    Sonic Rise/Fall
    Sonic Clip 13
    Inverse Sonic 23-12
    Flush Sonic 34-23/23-23 (struggling)
    TA Normal/Reverse/Harmonic/FL Normal/FL Reverse
    Twisted Sonic 23-12
    Twisted Sonic Bust
    Demon Sonic 34-12
    Double Charge
    Shadow Normal 12-12/23-23/12-23/23-12
    Devil Shadow 12-12 (Shadow 12-23 ~> FL MA 23-12), and with additional bust added as well
    NeoSonic 23-TF/12-TF
    Infinity Normal/Extended/Double Normal/Double Extended
    Figure 8 T1/T2/T3
    Triangle Pass T12 (not really fast though)
    Bak -> Midbak

    And I can't really do the NeoSonic -> FL Charge TF -> FL TA Rev combo pretty smoothly though. Pen will end up in 34 after FL TA Rev. And I usually do NeoSonic -> FL TA Rev without Charge TF since mine's pretty wonky.

    Thanks.

  137. Sadistic
    Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 04:41:01

    ima say this to just about everyone.....learn rev charge! twisted sonic spamming might not look as good as twisted sonic quintuple bust, but it considering how much you will need it for linkage, you may as well learn it now because your going to need it for just about every combo you ever do.....

  138. Tgz
    Date: Wed, Nov 12 2008 23:10:15

    QUOTE (Tgz @ Oct 31 2008, 01:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    OK..so I've learned so far...:

    Thumbaround
    Fingerpass
    Sonic
    Thumbaround Reverse
    Twisted Sonic
    Twisted Sonic Bust
    Devil's Sonic
    Charge
    Triangle Pass
    Indexaround
    Infinity
    Figure 8
    Fingerless Thumbaround

    What should I do next?? Links to tutorials would be appreciated!



    nobody's replying....?

  139. FrozenIce
    Date: Thu, Nov 13 2008 00:51:34

    QUOTE (Tgz @ Oct 31 2008, 10:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    OK..so I've learned so far...:

    Thumbaround
    Fingerpass
    Sonic
    Thumbaround Reverse
    Twisted Sonic
    Twisted Sonic Bust
    Devil's Sonic
    Charge
    Triangle Pass
    Indexaround
    Infinity
    Figure 8
    Fingerless Thumbaround

    What should I do next?? Links to tutorials would be appreciated!


    Very impressive trick list, but you should now learn Charge Reverse...It helps, trust me.

    Once you've learned Charge Reverse, go ahead and move onto Sonic Reverse/Twisted Sonic Reverse.

    It seems you know charge very well, so go learn Inverse Twisted Sonic.

    Also, Fingerpass Reverse would help too. smile.gif

  140. Scandiacus
    Date: Thu, Nov 13 2008 07:25:07

    QUOTE (Scandiacus @ Nov 10 2008, 12:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Hi guys, can't really think up of any decent combo though.

    Trick list:

    Sonic Rise/Fall
    Sonic Clip 13
    Inverse Sonic 23-12
    Flush Sonic 34-23/23-23 (struggling)
    TA Normal/Reverse/Harmonic/FL Normal/FL Reverse
    Twisted Sonic 23-12
    Twisted Sonic Bust
    Demon Sonic 34-12
    Double Charge
    Shadow Normal 12-12/23-23/12-23/23-12
    Devil Shadow 12-12 (Shadow 12-23 ~> FL MA 23-12), and with additional bust added as well
    NeoSonic 23-TF/12-TF
    Infinity Normal/Extended/Double Normal/Double Extended
    Figure 8 T1/T2/T3
    Triangle Pass T12 (not really fast though)
    Bak -> Midbak

    And I can't really do the NeoSonic -> FL Charge TF -> FL TA Rev combo pretty smoothly though. Pen will end up in 34 after FL TA Rev. And I usually do NeoSonic -> FL TA Rev without Charge TF since mine's pretty wonky.

    Thanks.


    Update:

    I can do NeoSonic -> FL TF Charge Rev -> FL TA Rev combo now. And my Fingerpass is *kinda* smooth except on Pass 23-34.

    Currently working on Shadow Reverse.

  141. Kachineo
    Date: Thu, Nov 13 2008 19:15:09

    Hello, last 2 weeks I was very lazy and I only spammed demons sonic and infinitys, so I got bored and decided to come visit the forum and ask for some help ^^, so far I have learned:

    Ta(+ reverse)
    Sonic (+reverse)(all fingers except reverse 32-43)
    Charge (all fingers) (cant do revereses)
    finguer pass( very bad reverse)

    Twisted sonic (my 43 is very bad)(cant do reverse since I cant do charge reverse)
    double charge (my 43 is very bad too)
    inverse sonic (cant do with 43)
    infinity
    multiple infinite
    extended infinity
    double infinity
    triple infinity (I use instead of a anyball grip I use a g3 grip, cant find anyballs)
    index around (cant do it with other finguers)
    double TA (very very bad)(cant do reverse)
    finguerless TA (+reverse)(very bad reverse)
    Neo sonic (only 23- to the thumb)
    Sonic clip (only 23-12 and very bad)
    Warped sonic (+ reverse)(my reverse better than normal)
    Sonic rise (smooth)(cant make fall)
    Demons sonic ( I make a cool combo and small combo, demons sonic->pass12-23->sonic23-12-> Finguerless TA)

    I am about to learn shadow, twisted inverse sonic, trying to masterize charge reverse in all finguers and all arounds in all finguers

    So I believe thats all, please tell me some other tricks I could learn, and tell me If I should start learning some Combos

    Thanks

  142. NinjaKai
    Date: Fri, Nov 14 2008 08:39:27

    Okay I got:

    FingerPass
    FingerPass Reverse
    Thumb Around
    Reverse Thumb Around
    Index Around
    (kinda) Middle Arround
    Back Around (only my forefinger and middle finger)
    Sonic
    Sonic Reverse
    Sonic Rise
    Sonic Fall (bit slow)
    Twisted Sonic (Having difficulty with the fluid motion)
    Neo Sonic
    I-Sonic (Very Rare for me to do this)
    Charge
    Reverse Charge (I'm rubbish at it)
    Taps
    Back Taps
    Infinity (Single, Double, Triple)
    Shadow

    My Combo: (I really need new ones, gotta diversify!)

    (Cluster of random tricks) > Infinity (usually a double) > (Near the end of the final wiper) Shadow > Index Around

    (It goes Harmonious Shadow > Index Around if I can get a good rhythm)

    WHAT SHOULD I DO NEXT?

    I seem to have hit a wall here...

  143. FrozenIce
    Date: Fri, Nov 14 2008 08:58:30

    QUOTE (NinjaKai @ Nov 14 2008, 12:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Okay I got:

    FingerPass
    FingerPass Reverse
    Thumb Around
    Reverse Thumb Around
    Index Around
    (kinda) Middle Arround
    Back Around (only my forefinger and middle finger)
    Sonic
    Sonic Reverse
    Sonic Rise
    Sonic Fall (bit slow)
    Twisted Sonic (Having difficulty with the fluid motion)
    Neo Sonic
    I-Sonic (Very Rare for me to do this)
    Charge
    Reverse Charge (I'm rubbish at it)
    Taps
    Back Taps
    Infinity (Single, Double, Triple)
    Shadow

    My Combo: (I really need new ones, gotta diversify!)

    (Cluster of random tricks) > Infinity (usually a double) > (Near the end of the final wiper) Shadow > Index Around

    (It goes Harmonious Shadow > Index Around if I can get a good rhythm)

    WHAT SHOULD I DO NEXT?

    I seem to have hit a wall here...


    You should definitely perfect your Twisted Sonic first. After that, you can move on to the Twisted Sonic variations, like Reverse Twisted sonic, Inverse Twisted Sonic, and Inverse Twisted Sonic Reverse.

    Also, you can start learning warped sonics. I find them highly useful. smile.gif

    Extended TA wouldn't be bad to learn now, either...Also, you can learn Sonic clip as well...

    Once you get Shadow and/or Sonic clip down, move onto Devil's Sonic and Demon's sonic.

    And finally, you should learn Twisted Sonic Bust. It's a very nice combo finisher. smile.gif

  144. Outsmash
    Date: Fri, Nov 14 2008 10:53:37

    QUOTE (Kachineo @ Nov 14 2008, 12:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Hello, last 2 weeks I was very lazy and I only spammed demons sonic and infinitys, so I got bored and decided to come visit the forum and ask for some help ^^, so far I have learned:

    Ta(+ reverse)
    Sonic (+reverse)(all fingers except reverse 32-43)
    Charge (all fingers) (cant do revereses)
    finguer pass( very bad reverse)

    Twisted sonic (my 43 is very bad)(cant do reverse since I cant do charge reverse)
    double charge (my 43 is very bad too)
    inverse sonic (cant do with 43)
    infinity
    multiple infinite
    extended infinity
    double infinity
    triple infinity (I use instead of a anyball grip I use a g3 grip, cant find anyballs)
    index around (cant do it with other finguers)
    double TA (very very bad)(cant do reverse)
    finguerless TA (+reverse)(very bad reverse)
    Neo sonic (only 23- to the thumb)
    Sonic clip (only 23-12 and very bad)
    Warped sonic (+ reverse)(my reverse better than normal)
    Sonic rise (smooth)(cant make fall)
    Demons sonic ( I make a cool combo and small combo, demons sonic->pass12-23->sonic23-12-> Finguerless TA)

    I am about to learn shadow, twisted inverse sonic, trying to masterize charge reverse in all finguers and all arounds in all finguers

    So I believe thats all, please tell me some other tricks I could learn, and tell me If I should start learning some Combos

    Thanks


    1) Doesn't a Warped Sonic Rev need Charge Rev and you said you cant charge Rev or Twisted Sonic Rev.
    Learn Shadow, Shadow Rev, Thumb Spin, Figure 8 (and Rev), Infinity Rev, Twisted Sonic (Double) Bust, Devil's Sonic, Demon's Devil's Sonic, FL TA Rev

    Korean Backaround!!!!! Bakfall!!!

  145. Kachineo
    Date: Mon, Nov 24 2008 01:37:00

    QUOTE (Outsmash @ Nov 14 2008, 07:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    1) Doesn't a Warped Sonic Rev need Charge Rev and you said you cant charge Rev or Twisted Sonic Rev.
    Learn Shadow, Shadow Rev, Thumb Spin, Figure 8 (and Rev), Infinity Rev, Twisted Sonic (Double) Bust, Devil's Sonic, Demon's Devil's Sonic, FL TA Rev

    Korean Backaround!!!!! Bakfall!!!


    ur right xd, I was wrong with warped sonic, is just a warped sonic rise (I guess, correct me if that exists pls, coz I cand do warped sonics rising and falling with charges normals), ok I will learn all what u said, thanks buddy

  146. OobieChoobie
    Date: Thu, Nov 27 2008 16:42:32

    What should i learn next i can do ta, ta rev, sonic 34-23 23-12, charge 12 and 23, twisted sonic only 23-12, shadow still and 12 23, infinity, and a really slow but smooth fingerpass (i practice it from time to time dont really care about fingerpasses to much).

  147. DivineObsidian
    Date: Sat, Nov 29 2008 11:34:19

    ok so i got

    TA and TA Rev
    TA and TA Rev (FL) for the neosonic combo thing
    charge and charge rev.
    fingerpass and fingerpass rev.(rev not as fast)
    sonic and sonic rev

    sonic clip(not rev)
    twisted sonic(not so good at 43-32)
    twisted sonic rev
    up to double infinity ext
    inverse sonic and rev.(working on 43-32)
    figure 8 and rev.
    ext ta
    taps
    neo sonic
    weis back
    baks (almost 100% index and mid 20% ring/pinky)
    neobacks(not 100%)

    can link simple moves e.g.
    demons sonic
    neosonic>fl ta rev
    twisted sonic bust

    so that is about all i can do.

    i am desperetaly trying to get shadows =.= as i cant do one at all and also im trying to get some form of bakfall.not sure if there is anything else useful i could learn?

  148. Outsmash
    Date: Sat, Nov 29 2008 11:47:39

    QUOTE (Kachineo @ Nov 24 2008, 07:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    ur right xd, I was wrong with warped sonic, is just a warped sonic rise (I guess, correct me if that exists pls, coz I cand do warped sonics rising and falling with charges normals), ok I will learn all what u said, thanks buddy


    Your wrong. Warped Sonic 12-23 is: Charge 12 > Pass 12-23.

    Warped Sonic goes down not up.

    QUOTE (OobieChoobie @ Nov 27 2008, 10:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    What should i learn next i can do ta, ta rev, sonic 34-23 23-12, charge 12 and 23, twisted sonic only 23-12, shadow still and 12 23, infinity, and a really slow but smooth fingerpass (i practice it from time to time dont really care about fingerpasses to much).


    Arounds! Korean Backaround, Weis Backaround, Normal Around (+Reverse), Reverse Sonic, Inverse Sonic, Double Infinity, FingerPass (keep practicing) TA Harmonic, Sonic Rise, Twisted Sonic Bust, FL TA Rev, FL TA.

    QUOTE (DivineObsidian @ Nov 29 2008, 05:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    ok so i got


    Spoiler:
    TA and TA Rev
    TA and TA Rev (FL) for the neosonic combo thing
    charge and charge rev.
    fingerpass and fingerpass rev.(rev not as fast)
    sonic and sonic rev

    sonic clip(not rev)
    twisted sonic(not so good at 43-32)
    twisted sonic rev
    up to double infinity ext
    inverse sonic and rev.(working on 43-32)
    figure 8 and rev.
    ext ta
    taps
    neo sonic
    weis back
    baks (almost 100% index and mid 20% ring/pinky)
    neobacks(not 100%)

    can link simple moves e.g.
    demons sonic
    neosonic>fl ta rev
    twisted sonic bust


    so that is about all i can do.

    i am desperetaly trying to get shadows =.= as i cant do one at all and also im trying to get some form of bakfall.not sure if there is anything else useful i could learn?


    Like you said, learn shadows. Double TA can be quite decent too. Arounds if you havent learn them. Twisted Sonic double bust.

    Or maybe hybrids like devil's shadow, devil's shadow, demon devil's sonic, etc..

  149. Ogarathe
    Date: Sat, Nov 29 2008 12:32:03

    QUOTE (Outsmash @ Nov 29 2008, 11:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Like you said, learn shadows. Double TA can be quite decent too. Arounds if you havent learn them. Twisted Sonic double bust.

    Or maybe hybrids like devil's shadow, devil's shadow, demon devil's sonic, etc..


    I think double bust might be a bit hard, but otherwise Outsmash pretty much has it all. I might suggest learning Neo Bak, Mid Bak, Ring Bak, Pinky Bak.

  150. edor
    Date: Sat, Nov 29 2008 12:39:10

    here is a list of my trick can somebody tell me a helpfull trick too learn??

    T.A.
    T.A. double
    T.A. reverse
    T.A. extend
    flick
    charge
    sonic
    devils sonic
    twisted sonic
    twisted sonic bust
    tipped sonic fall
    tipped sonic rise
    tipped sonic fall harmonic
    back around
    backaround reverse
    korean back
    neo back
    finger pas 0o
    i did do a back fall once biggrin.gif

    please post i you have something helpful biggrin.gif

  151. Outsmash
    Date: Sat, Nov 29 2008 13:19:56

    QUOTE (edor @ Nov 29 2008, 06:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    here is a list of my trick can somebody tell me a helpfull trick too learn??

    T.A.
    T.A. double
    T.A. reverse
    T.A. extend
    flick
    charge
    sonic
    devils sonic
    twisted sonic
    twisted sonic bust
    tipped sonic fall
    tipped sonic rise
    tipped sonic fall harmonic
    back around
    backaround reverse
    korean back
    neo back
    finger pas 0o
    i did do a back fall once biggrin.gif

    please post i you have something helpful biggrin.gif


    Reverse Charge, Reverse Sonic, Neo Sonic, FL TA Rev, double charge, shadow, thumb spin.

  152. Ogarathe
    Date: Sat, Nov 29 2008 23:43:32

    QUOTE (edor @ Nov 29 2008, 11:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    here is a list of my trick can somebody tell me a helpfull trick too learn??

    T.A.
    T.A. double
    T.A. reverse
    T.A. extend
    flick
    charge
    sonic
    devils sonic
    twisted sonic
    twisted sonic bust
    tipped sonic fall
    tipped sonic rise
    tipped sonic fall harmonic
    back around
    backaround reverse
    korean back
    neo back
    finger pas 0o
    i did do a back fall once biggrin.gif

    please post i you have something helpful biggrin.gif


    Demon's Sonic, Sonic Clip, Inverse Sonic, Warped Sonic. (Reverse of these)

  153. Kenshin
    Date: Sun, Nov 30 2008 06:42:27

    i learned the TA and TA reverse, bakfall, shadow (still working on it), a smooth fingerpass, sonic and sonic reverse, charge rev and normal...what should i do now?

  154. Ogarathe
    Date: Sun, Nov 30 2008 07:12:57

    QUOTE (Kenshin @ Nov 30 2008, 05:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    i learned the TA and TA reverse, bakfall, shadow (still working on it), a smooth fingerpass, sonic and sonic reverse, charge rev and normal...what should i do now?


    O.o You don't know that much yet you have bakfall down.. hmm maybe try..

    Twisted Sonic
    Warped Sonic
    Twisted Sonic Bust
    Index Around
    Inverse Sonic
    Ext. TA
    Sonic Clip
    Neobak

  155. JamTheKid
    Date: Sun, Nov 30 2008 23:20:53

    thats what i've got
    Arounds:
    TA/TA reverse/TA hamonic/flTA/flTA reverse/TA extendet/Double TA
    IndexAround
    MidAround
    BackAround

    Charges:
    Charge(34,23,24,12.13,t1)/Charge reverse (12,23,t1)
    Double Charge/Double Charge Reverse

    Sonics:
    Sonic
    Sonic Reverse
    Sonic Rise
    Sonic Fall
    Sonic Rise Harmonic
    Sonic Clip
    Pseudo Sonic
    Out-In Sonic
    Out-In Sonic Bust
    Twisted Sonic
    Twisted Sonic Reverse
    Twisted Sonic Rise
    Twisted Sonic Bust
    Inverse Sonic
    Inverse Sonic Reverse
    Inverse Twisted Sonic
    Inverse Twisted Sonic Reverse
    Demon Sonic
    Demon Sonic Bust
    NeoSonic
    NeoSonic Harmonic
    DoubleSonic
    Warped Sonic

    Other:
    Infinity/Infinity extendet/double Infinity/double infinity extendet/tripple infinity
    Wiper
    Wiper reverse
    Figure 8

    what should i learn next?? ohmy.gif

  156. Ogarathe
    Date: Sun, Nov 30 2008 23:59:50

    QUOTE (JamTheKid @ Dec 1 2008, 10:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    thats what i've got
    Arounds:
    TA/TA reverse/TA hamonic/flTA/flTA reverse/TA extendet/Double TA
    IndexAround
    MidAround
    BackAround

    Charges:
    Charge(34,23,24,12.13,t1)/Charge reverse (12,23,t1)
    Double Charge/Double Charge Reverse

    Sonics:
    Sonic
    Sonic Reverse
    Sonic Rise
    Sonic Fall
    Sonic Rise Harmonic
    Sonic Clip
    Pseudo Sonic
    Out-In Sonic
    Out-In Sonic Bust
    Twisted Sonic
    Twisted Sonic Reverse
    Twisted Sonic Rise
    Twisted Sonic Bust
    Inverse Sonic
    Inverse Sonic Reverse
    Inverse Twisted Sonic
    Inverse Twisted Sonic Reverse
    Demon Sonic
    Demon Sonic Bust
    NeoSonic
    NeoSonic Harmonic
    DoubleSonic
    Warped Sonic

    Other:
    Infinity/Infinity extendet/double Infinity/double infinity extendet/tripple infinity
    Wiper
    Wiper reverse
    Figure 8

    what should i learn next?? ohmy.gif


    I'd say maybe learning Reverse Infinity, maybe more baks.. (Mid bak, Ring bak, Pinky Bak, NeoBak). Or, you could start linking the tricks you know together and create combos.

  157. FatalXFury
    Date: Mon, Dec 1 2008 11:21:29

    ok after a few weeks of practicing I can

    All the fundamentals including reverses
    All of the infinities including wiper,figure 8 and all of there reverse
    sonic clip
    pseudo sonic
    twisted sonic
    twisted sonic bust
    twisted sonic rev
    inverse sonic
    demon sonic
    demon sonic bust
    devils around
    tipped sonic
    tipped sonic fall
    k4lc
    neosonic
    warped sonic
    out in sonic
    sonic rise
    sonicfall
    Ta harmonic
    Double Ta
    Thumbspin
    Thumbspin pop
    Ta extended
    double charge
    IA
    MA
    Backaround(all fingers)


    whats next?
    and btw are taps(all of them) used in combos?

    Edit:
    I forgot I can also do:
    Bakfall
    Shadown still
    Shadow fall
    Devil sonic
    palmspin

  158. Outsmash
    Date: Mon, Dec 1 2008 11:58:27

    Taps are used and you can learn bakfall if you haven't yet.

    Then, Devil's Sonic, Demon's Devil's Sonic, Devil's Shaodw, Twisted Sonic Bust --> Bak Rev, FL TA Rev. Palm Spin or Palm Taps.

  159. Anon
    Date: Tue, Dec 2 2008 18:02:39

    Alright I'm kinda stuck here so I'll let you know what I can do.

    The Fundies
    Thumb Around Harmonic
    Twisted Sonic + Variations
    Inverse Sonic + Reverse Inverse Sonic
    Twisted Sonic Bust
    Demon Sonic
    Devil's Sonic
    Shadow (up to 2.0), Shadow Reverse
    Neo Sonic
    Double Charge
    Ext. Thumb Around
    Cardiod
    Figure 8
    Infinity
    Extended Infinity
    Tipped Sonic
    Bak, Midbak, (almost Ringbak)
    Arounds (Index and Middle, can't really do them that well)
    Sonic Clip 34
    Fingerless Thumbaround (not well) + Reverse

  160. Outsmash
    Date: Wed, Dec 3 2008 11:45:34

    QUOTE (Anon @ Dec 3 2008, 12:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Alright I'm kinda stuck here so I'll let you know what I can do.


    Spoiler:
    The Fundies
    Thumb Around Harmonic
    Twisted Sonic + Variations
    Inverse Sonic + Reverse Inverse Sonic
    Twisted Sonic Bust
    Demon Sonic
    Devil's Sonic
    Shadow (up to 2.0), Shadow Reverse
    Neo Sonic
    Double Charge
    Ext. Thumb Around
    Cardiod
    Figure 8
    Infinity
    Extended Infinity
    Tipped Sonic
    Bak, Midbak, (almost Ringbak)
    Arounds (Index and Middle, can't really do them that well)
    Sonic Clip 34
    Fingerless Thumbaround (not well) + Reverse


    umm.. ThumbSpin, Halp/Full Tap, Palm and Back Tap, Palm Spin, NeoBak, Double Thumbaround, Double Thumbaround, Warped Sonic, Some Aerials (if you don't know em already).

    Hybrid's like: Demons Devils Sonic, Devil's Shadow, and few more.

    this'll keep you busy for a while.. happy.gif

  161. nightkill
    Date: Wed, Dec 3 2008 17:14:53

    got started on pen spinning a few days ago
    i can do:
    sonic
    twisted sonic
    finger pass
    charge
    ta
    ta rev
    (learning shadow and harmonics)
    What should i lean next

  162. Outsmash
    Date: Thu, Dec 4 2008 04:47:14

    QUOTE (nightkill @ Dec 3 2008, 10:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    got started on pen spinning a few days ago
    i can do:
    sonic
    twisted sonic
    finger pass
    charge
    ta
    ta rev
    (learning shadow and harmonics)
    What should i lean next


    Sonic Reverse, Infinity, Figure 8, Around (+Rev), Backaround (+Rev). After that try getting the backaround to all the fingers so that you can bakfall.

  163. SawyerAlchemist
    Date: Thu, Dec 4 2008 15:23:29

    Hello! I can :
    TA, Ta Rev, Ta Harmonic
    Sonic (Twisted, Neo, Rev, Harmonic)
    FP
    Charge, Double Charge
    Infinity (Double, Ext, Double Ext, Triple, Figure 8)
    Backaround
    Thumb Spin

    What next?

  164. Outsmash
    Date: Thu, Dec 4 2008 15:32:48

    QUOTE (SawyerAlchemist @ Dec 4 2008, 08:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Hello! I can :
    TA, Ta Rev, Ta Harmonic
    Sonic (Twisted, Neo, Rev, Harmonic)
    FP
    Charge, Double Charge
    Infinity (Double, Ext, Double Ext, Triple, Figure 8)
    Backaround
    Thumb Spin

    What next?


    Shadow, Devil's Sonic/Around, Inverse Sonic (+Twisted), Sonic Rise, Fall, Rise Fall Harmonic.

    FL TA Rev, FL TA, Around (+Rev). Middle Backaround, Ring and Pinky Backaround. Bakfall.

    NeoBak, Charge Rev.

  165. Missle_Z
    Date: Fri, Dec 5 2008 06:31:55

    QUOTE (SawyerAlchemist @ Dec 4 2008, 07:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Hello! I can :
    TA, Ta Rev, Ta Harmonic
    Sonic (Twisted, Neo, Rev, Harmonic)
    FP
    Charge, Double Charge
    Infinity (Double, Ext, Double Ext, Triple, Figure 8)
    Backaround
    Thumb Spin

    What next?

    Infinity and Figure 8 rev.
    You can pink them into FL TA revs.

  166. edor
    Date: Fri, Dec 5 2008 18:26:10

    try double T.A.

  167. Nolan
    Date: Tue, Dec 16 2008 00:58:25

    OMG NOLAN ASKING FOR TRICKS? WTF YO?

    But yea all kidding aside im actually gonna try to get better at spinning. So, I ask you UPSB, What to learn?

    -TA and TA Rev
    -Fingerpass and Fingerpass Rev
    -Sonic and Sonic Rev
    -Charge and Charge Rev
    -Infinity and Infinity Rev
    -Wiper and Wiper Rev
    -Thumbspin
    -Halftap and Halftap Rev
    -Index Bak
    -Mid Bak
    -Ring Bak
    -Twisted Sonic and Twisted Sonic Bust
    -Index Around
    -Fingerless Thumbaround Rev
    -Fulltap and Fulltap Rev
    -Thumbaround Bust
    -Copper Stall
    -IPBA Rev

    Help pl0x

  168. Mr.Squekers
    Date: Tue, Dec 16 2008 01:15:12

    ._. Learn Spider spin.

  169. L
    Date: Tue, Dec 16 2008 01:17:23

    try the next bak and then try to backfall, smile.gif just my suggestion

  170. Winterlocke
    Date: Tue, Dec 16 2008 01:19:43

    SHADOWS NOLAN

    i see no shadows on that list >_>

  171. FrozenIce
    Date: Tue, Dec 16 2008 01:44:15

    QUOTE (Nolan @ Dec 15 2008, 04:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    OMG NOLAN ASKING FOR TRICKS? WTF YO?

    But yea all kidding aside im actually gonna try to get better at spinning. So, I ask you UPSB, What to learn?

    -TA and TA Rev
    -Fingerpass and Fingerpass Rev
    -Sonic and Sonic Rev
    -Charge and Charge Rev
    -Infinity and Infinity Rev
    -Wiper and Wiper Rev
    -Thumbspin
    -Halftap and Halftap Rev
    -Index Bak
    -Mid Bak
    -Ring Bak
    -Twisted Sonic and Twisted Sonic Bust
    -Index Around
    -Fingerless Thumbaround Rev
    -Fulltap and Fulltap Rev
    -Thumbaround Bust
    -Copper Stall
    -IPBA Rev

    Help pl0x


    If you know IPBA Reverse already, why not try IPBA Reverse 2.0?

    Also, learn some hybrids like Devil's sonic, Demon's sonic, Demon's around, and such.

    Good luck! thumb.gif

  172. gerb234
    Date: Thu, Dec 18 2008 02:12:29

    sonic comes up in alot of combos so learn sonic happy.gif

  173. MFK93
    Date: Fri, Dec 19 2008 10:02:56

    Ermm..I'm kinda stucked rite now..So what i should learn to make a combo?
    Tricks I already know:
    Sonic Rise Fall Harmonic
    TA Harmonic
    Double Charge/Charge
    Infinity/Triple Infinity/Double Extended Infinity
    Shadow
    FL TA Rev
    Thumbflap Charge
    Demon Sonic/Demon's Around/Demon Sonic n Around
    Backaround

    So basically..that much..what i shud learn now?

  174. PillarsOfValhalla
    Date: Sat, Dec 20 2008 18:26:50

    I got:

    TA
    Reverse TA
    Sonic (34 and 23)
    Figure 8
    Infinity
    Multiple infinity
    Charge
    Twisted Sonic
    Korean Bakaround

    I am wondering where to go now?

  175. FrozenIce
    Date: Sat, Dec 20 2008 18:32:43

    QUOTE (PillarsOfValhalla @ Dec 20 2008, 10:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I got:

    TA
    Reverse TA
    Sonic (34 and 23)
    Figure 8
    Infinity
    Multiple infinity
    Charge
    Twisted Sonic
    Korean Bakaround

    I am wondering where to go now?


    Fingerpass!!! Yeah, you should start learning it now, because you'll need it a lot when you get into more advanced tricks.

    Once you get your Charge and Fingerpass smooth, you can move onto Warped Sonic.

    And you can try learning Shadow now. http://www.upsb.info/wiki/index.php/Shadow

  176. babypotter-
    Date: Tue, Dec 23 2008 15:11:24

    i can do :
    - TA
    - Sonic
    - Twisted sonic
    - Twisted sonic bust
    - fingerpass
    - fingerpass rev
    - bak
    - fingeraround
    - infinity
    - i-sonic
    - double infinity
    - charge
    - shadow (still noob biggrin.gif )

    what must i do next ? dry.gif

  177. KhaDori
    Date: Tue, Dec 23 2008 15:21:45

    QUOTE (babypotter- @ Dec 23 2008, 04:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    i can do :
    - TA
    - Sonic
    - Twisted sonic
    - Twisted sonic bust
    - fingerpass
    - fingerpass rev
    - bak
    - fingeraround
    - infinity
    - i-sonic
    - double infinity
    - charge
    - shadow (still noob biggrin.gif )

    what must i do next ? dry.gif


    If i were you i will start to learn sonic rev, inverse sonic, pseudo sonic etc. tongue.gif

  178. JSH
    Date: Tue, Dec 23 2008 15:44:44

    QUOTE (babypotter- @ Dec 23 2008, 10:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    i can do :
    - TA
    - Sonic
    - Twisted sonic
    - Twisted sonic bust
    - fingerpass
    - fingerpass rev
    - bak
    - fingeraround
    - infinity
    - i-sonic
    - double infinity
    - charge
    - shadow (still noob biggrin.gif )

    what must i do next ? dry.gif


    Try to learn charge reverse and all the twisted sonic variations as well.
    also try to learn mid, ring, and pinky bak (for bakfall)
    also remember to have fun
    enjoy spinning smile.gif

  179. Outsmash
    Date: Tue, Dec 23 2008 16:40:03

    QUOTE (babypotter- @ Dec 23 2008, 08:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    i can do :
    - TA
    - Sonic
    - Twisted sonic
    - Twisted sonic bust
    - fingerpass
    - fingerpass rev
    - bak
    - fingeraround
    - infinity
    - i-sonic
    - double infinity
    - charge
    - shadow (still noob biggrin.gif )

    what must i do next ? dry.gif


    Hybrids like: Demon's Sonic, Devil's Sonic, etc.
    Then, Around, Reverse Around, etc.

  180. PillarsOfValhalla
    Date: Tue, Dec 23 2008 19:57:19

    QUOTE (FrozenIce @ Dec 20 2008, 01:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Fingerpass!!! Yeah, you should start learning it now, because you'll need it a lot when you get into more advanced tricks.

    Once you get your Charge and Fingerpass smooth, you can move onto Warped Sonic.

    And you can try learning Shadow now. http://www.upsb.info/wiki/index.php/Shadow


    Thanks. I've been trying to get the shadow but I'm having trouble. I can do the rev fingerpass ok, but i'm also having trouble with the normal fingerpass.

    Oh well. I'll keep at it.

  181. Ogarathe
    Date: Tue, Dec 23 2008 22:35:58

    QUOTE (PillarsOfValhalla @ Dec 24 2008, 06:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Thanks. I've been trying to get the shadow but I'm having trouble. I can do the rev fingerpass ok, but i'm also having trouble with the normal fingerpass.

    Oh well. I'll keep at it.


    A good thing I did when I was learning FP (Still working on smoothing my rev) was, I used my left hand to hold then pen and guide it through my fingers in the beginning. Helped my fingers get used to the motion and passing. You can't drop it either, since you're holding it with your left hand.

    Try it out.

  182. Sl3uth
    Date: Tue, Dec 30 2008 06:28:54

    Shadow and all its variations, it looks coolm, and is very fun to do. :]

  183. NinjaKai
    Date: Thu, Jan 1 2009 04:49:11

    Can I get a List of all the Shadow Variations.

  184. Zweebna
    Date: Sat, Jan 17 2009 19:21:01

    -Thumbaround, Rev TA
    -Fingerless Thumbaround, Rev Fl TA, Cont TA
    -Ta Harmonic
    -Double Thumbaround
    -Thumbspin
    -Ext TA/Fake double
    -Sonic, Rev sonic
    -Sonic Rise/Fall
    -Demons Sonic
    -Inverse sonic
    -Neo-sonic
    -Sonic Clip
    -Warped Sonic
    -Twisted Sonic
    -Twisted Sonic bust, double bust
    -Charge, Rev Charge
    -Double Charge
    -Figure 8, Infinity, Double Infinity, Triple Infinity, Quadruple Infinity, Extended Infinity
    -Triangle Pass
    -Bak, both Korean and Weis
    -Bak 1.5
    -Arounds, Rev around
    -Shadow

    So yeah, pretty much all of Eso's tuts xD

    What now?

  185. Outsmash
    Date: Sun, Jan 18 2009 09:47:05

    QUOTE ("NinjaKai")
    Can I get a List of all the Shadow Variations.



    Spoiler:
    Tricks:
    Shadow
    Shadow Rev
    Shadow Inverse
    Shadow Inverse Reverse
    FL Shadow
    FL Shadow Rev (Neobak)
    FL Shadow Inverse
    FL Shadow Inverse Reverse

    Combos:
    Shadow Fall
    Shadow Rise
    Shadow Reverse Fall
    Shadow Reverse Rise
    Shadow Inverse Fall
    Shadow Inverse Rise
    Shadow Inverse Reverse Fall
    Shadow Inverse Reverse Rise
    FL Shadow Fall
    FL Shadow Rise
    FL Shadow Reverse Fall (Neobak fall)
    FL Shadow Reverse Rise
    FL Shadow Inverse Fall
    FL Shadow Inverse Rise
    FL Shadow Inverse Reverse Fall
    FL Shadow Inverse Reverse Rise

    Continuous (Cont.):
    Shadow Cont.
    Shadow Rev Cont.
    Shadow Inverse Cont.
    Shadow Inverse Reverse Cont.
    FL Shadow Cont.
    FL Shadow Rev Cont.
    FL Shadow Inverse Cont.
    FL Shadow Inverse Reverse Cont.
    Shadow Riser Cont.
    Shadow Reverse Riser Cont.
    Shadow Inverse Riser Cont.
    Shadow Inverse Reverse Riser Cont.
    FL Shadow Riser Cont.
    FL Shadow Reverse Riser Cont.
    FL Shadow Inverse Riser Cont.
    FL Shadow Inverse Reverse Riser Cont.

    Aerials:
    Shadow Riser
    Shadow Reverse Riser
    Shadow Inverse Riser
    Shadow Inverse Reverse Riser
    FL Shadow Riser
    FL Shadow Reverse Riser
    FL Shadow Inverse Riser
    FL Shadow Inverse Reverse Riser

    Slots:
    12-12 (Still)
    12-23
    12-34
    23-12
    23-23 (Still)
    23-34
    34-12
    34-23
    34-34 (Still)
    12-TF
    23-TF
    34-TF
    TF-TF (Still)
    12-T1
    23-T1
    34-T1
    T1-T1 (Still)

    That took a loong time.

    QUOTE (Zweebna @ Jan 18 2009, 12:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

    Spoiler:
    -Thumbaround, Rev TA
    -Fingerless Thumbaround, Rev Fl TA, Cont TA
    -Ta Harmonic
    -Double Thumbaround
    -Thumbspin
    -Ext TA/Fake double
    -Sonic, Rev sonic
    -Sonic Rise/Fall
    -Demons Sonic
    -Inverse sonic
    -Neo-sonic
    -Sonic Clip
    -Warped Sonic
    -Twisted Sonic
    -Twisted Sonic bust, double bust
    -Charge, Rev Charge
    -Double Charge
    -Figure 8, Infinity, Double Infinity, Triple Infinity, Quadruple Infinity, Extended Infinity
    -Triangle Pass
    -Bak, both Korean and Weis
    -Bak 1.5
    -Arounds, Rev around
    -Shadow


    So yeah, pretty much all of Eso's tuts xD

    What now?


    That's a lot.
    TA Harmonic TF-23 > Pass 23-34 > Demon's Sonic (Clip) 34-12 > Shadow 12-12 > Shadow 12-23 > Twisted Sonic Bust 23-12 > Double TA > FL TA Rev > Bak 1.5 12-12 > Bak 12-12 > MidBak 23-23 > MA 23-23 > IA 12-12 > Pass Rev 12-23 > MA 23-23 > Pass 23-34 > Sonic 34-23 ~ Double Charge 24-24 > Rev Pass 24-12 > Neo-Sonic 12-TF > FL TA Rev TF-23 > Bak 12-TF > FL TA Rev > TA. facepalm.gif I thought this was post combos facepalm.gif

  186. Malch
    Date: Tue, Feb 17 2009 15:29:29

    ThumbAround
    TA Rev
    Sonic Rev
    Charge
    Charge Rev
    FingerPass
    FP Rev
    Figure 8
    Infinity
    Double Infinity
    Triple Infinity
    NeoSonic
    BackAround
    Korean Bak (Bakfall)
    Shadow
    Shadow Rev
    Fl TA
    Fl TA Rev
    Thumbspin 1.5
    Inver
    Halftap
    Halftap Rev
    Fulltap
    Fulltap Rev
    Twisted Sonic
    Twisted Sonic Rev
    Inverse Twisted Sonic
    Inverse Twisted Sonic Rev
    Extended TA

    I'm more concerned about tricks that are easier than the ones that I've already learned, but I'd also like to know a few slightly harder tricks. ^^

  187. TheOnion
    Date: Tue, Feb 17 2009 19:52:05

    QUOTE (Malch @ Feb 17 2009, 04:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I'm more concerned about tricks that are easier than the ones that I've already learned, but I'd also like to know a few slightly harder tricks. ^^


    I see you don't have IndexAround on the list. It should not be too hard to learn if you already can do a korean backaround, it just goes the other way around and uses a finger push. When you have learned IA you could go on to the other fingerarounds if you like.
    You could also learn neobackaround, not that different from backaround and can be useful every now and then.
    You have not listed sonic normal, but surely that must be a mistake since you know already know shadow. But if you don't know sonic rise/fall you should learn that.
    You should also take a look at demon's sonic, devil's shadow and devil's sonic. And when you know devil's sonic you could go on to devil's around.
    And maybe try an aerial trick. When you got one down, they all become easier.

  188. Malch
    Date: Wed, Feb 18 2009 19:50:50

    QUOTE (TheOnion @ Feb 17 2009, 02:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I see you don't have IndexAround on the list. It should not be too hard to learn if you already can do a korean backaround, it just goes the other way around and uses a finger push. When you have learned IA you could go on to the other fingerarounds if you like.
    You could also learn neobackaround, not that different from backaround and can be useful every now and then.
    You have not listed sonic normal, but surely that must be a mistake since you know already know shadow. But if you don't know sonic rise/fall you should learn that.
    You should also take a look at demon's sonic, devil's shadow and devil's sonic. And when you know devil's sonic you could go on to devil's around.
    And maybe try an aerial trick. When you got one down, they all become easier.

    Thanks, I learned Arounds (except for pinky), NeoBak, and Demon's Sonic. Already knew Sonic Rise/Fall, lol. I'll look at Demon's Sonic, Devil's Shadow, etc. and I just got Bakriser. ^^

  189. G.lanz
    Date: Thu, Feb 19 2009 01:12:03

    so...
    How important is it to learn charge and sonic reverses? They are giving me a pain in the ass, and I wanted to know how useful they where in combos

  190. TheOnion
    Date: Thu, Feb 19 2009 12:02:14

    QUOTE (G.lanz @ Feb 19 2009, 02:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    so...
    How important is it to learn charge and sonic reverses? They are giving me a pain in the ass, and I wanted to know how useful they where in combos


    They are both very useful. Charge more than sonic reverse. You should at least try to learn 3/4 of a charge so you can learn twisted sonic, you hardly ever see a combo without atleast a single twisted sonic or a variations there of. But charge is also good to know for shadows, and when you get even further sonic clip, inverse sonic and inverse shadow. Make sure that when you practise charge, that you are doing it with a pen with enough momentum to keep the pen moving. That does make it a lot easier.
    Sonic reverse is good to know for reverse shadow, but is also good just for moving the pen a slot.
    If they really give you a lot of trouble, you should not spend all your time on them, you will grow tired of pen spinning then. A lot of people have problems exactly those tricks, when they start out.
    But at the same time you should not totally neglect those tricks either, because they are important, they are basis for a lot of other tricks. You will get to point where you need those tricks for something, and you wish you had tried practise them some more.

  191. G.lanz
    Date: Fri, Feb 20 2009 00:35:13

    QUOTE (TheOnion @ Feb 19 2009, 07:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    They are both very useful. Charge more than sonic reverse. You should at least try to learn 3/4 of a charge so you can learn twisted sonic, you hardly ever see a combo without atleast a single twisted sonic or a variations there of. But charge is also good to know for shadows, and when you get even further sonic clip, inverse sonic and inverse shadow. Make sure that when you practise charge, that you are doing it with a pen with enough momentum to keep the pen moving. That does make it a lot easier.
    Sonic reverse is good to know for reverse shadow, but is also good just for moving the pen a slot.
    If they really give you a lot of trouble, you should not spend all your time on them, you will grow tired of pen spinning then. A lot of people have problems exactly those tricks, when they start out.
    But at the same time you should not totally neglect those tricks either, because they are important, they are basis for a lot of other tricks. You will get to point where you need those tricks for something, and you wish you had tried practise them some more.


    Thanks, I was talking about charge reverse, but I'll learn that too since I kinda need it for sonic rev. I've almost got it.

  192. nachoaddict
    Date: Sun, Mar 8 2009 16:54:14

    Well you should practice during school or work. I got it in about 2 days of doing it. If it helps, a 23-12 sonic has the middle finger for pressure only. Getting it out of the way and getting sonic smoothly with the right amount of pressure posed problems for me...

  193. Pen Islandâ„¢
    Date: Sun, Mar 8 2009 20:55:20

    i've mastered all the fundametals and its reverses but maybe except for the FP rev.. im working on it. (also including traingle pass, infinity, and figure 8)

    Is it advicable to learn the shadow and its variations after or before Inverse sonic,double charge, twisted sonic?
    And finally, how important is Sonic 34-12?

  194. grsbmd
    Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 01:00:03

    QUOTE (Pen Islandâ„¢ @ Mar 8 2009, 03:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    i've mastered all the fundametals and its reverses but maybe except for the FP rev.. im working on it. (also including traingle pass, infinity, and figure 8)

    Is it advicable to learn the shadow and its variations after or before Inverse sonic,double charge, twisted sonic?
    And finally, how important is Sonic 34-12?


    You should be able to learn the shadow if you can do a charge and a sonic. As for the others, you should just make sure that you learn twisted sonic before double charge (because double charge is a lot easier if you can do a twisted sonic), and Sonic 34-12 is nice to know (it can help with flexibility), but it's not super useful.

  195. shimshim91
    Date: Tue, Mar 31 2009 02:02:37

    hey so i got the fundamentals pretty much down, twisted sonic, shadow (norm, reverse, still) and i want to learn some more advanced tricks any idea on which trick to learn next?

  196. JC
    Date: Tue, Mar 31 2009 02:04:49

    Try working on the Bakarounds and Arounds next... both of which can be found under Eso's tutorials.

  197. PillarsOfValhalla
    Date: Tue, Mar 31 2009 02:05:13

    -TA
    -Rev TA
    -fl rev ta
    -fl ta
    -sonic rise/fall harmonic
    -demons sonic
    -charge (most fingers)
    -thumbspin 1.5
    -inverse sonic
    -twisted sonic bust X1
    -infinities and variations
    -Working on shadow

    Thanks in advance biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

  198. Echo
    Date: Tue, Mar 31 2009 05:09:47

    Thumb around
    Thumb around reverse
    Charge
    Charge reverse
    Infinity
    Double infinity
    Triple infinity
    Demon's Sonic
    Twisted Sonic
    Twisted Sonic bust
    Devils Sonic
    Devils Around
    Half tap
    Full tap
    Faked 0.5
    Faked reverse
    Sonic
    Sonic reverse
    Inverse sonic reverse
    Twisted Sonic reverse
    Inverse Twisted Sonic Reverse
    Inverse Sonic Reverse
    Shadow
    Backaround
    Mid Back
    Ring Back
    Pinky Back
    Reverse Korean Bak
    Index Around
    Middle around
    ThumbSpin
    Neosonic
    Fl Thumbaround
    Fl Thumbaround reverse
    Weis Backaround
    Extended Thumbaround
    Shadow Reverse
    Extended Infinity
    I'd like to know harder,creative,2h1p tricks please and thx.

  199. En-Nova
    Date: Sat, Apr 11 2009 15:54:09

    So basically I'm new and I know

    Charge
    TA
    FL TA
    Sonic
    Reverse Sonic
    Warped Sonic
    Twisted Sonic
    Pseudo Sonic
    Demon Sonic
    Inverse Sonic
    Neo Sonic
    Sonic clip
    Smooth Fingerpassing
    Infinity + Extended Infinity
    Shadow

    So basically, I'm stuck on what I should learn next. Should I now learn
    A) Reverse Charge
    B ) Reverse Thumbaround
    C) [Finger] Arounds
    D) Bak's
    E) or something else?

    Edit: Yeah, I've been spinning for 3 months but I don't actively practice.

  200. JSH
    Date: Sat, Apr 11 2009 16:40:18

    QUOTE (En-Nova @ Apr 11 2009, 11:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    So basically I'm new and I know

    Charge
    TA
    FL TA
    Sonic
    Reverse Sonic
    Warped Sonic
    Twisted Sonic
    Pseudo Sonic
    Demon Sonic
    Inverse Sonic
    Neo Sonic
    Sonic clip
    Smooth Fingerpassing
    Infinity + Extended Infinity
    Shadow

    So basically, I'm stuck on what I should learn next. Should I now learn
    A) Reverse Charge
    B ) Reverse Thumbaround
    C) [Finger] Arounds
    D) Bak's
    E) or something else?

    Edit: Yeah, I've been spinning for 3 months but I don't actively practice.


    Yeah Reverse charge and thumbaround definitely.

    Then you should learn Baks and Arounds.

    Well, learn them in any order really.
    Just learn what you want to but try to learn them xD

    You could also learn a few hybrids as well such as Devil's sonic and Extended Thumbaround

  201. manks123
    Date: Sun, Apr 12 2009 03:50:50

    ThumbAround
    ThumbAround Reverse
    Sonic
    Sonic Reverse
    Charge
    FingerPass
    FingerPass Reverse
    Twisted Sonic
    Inverse Twisted Sonic
    Warped Sonic

    I know its not a lot but hey, its only been like 2 weeks tongue.gif

    Thanks in advance

  202. Chobi
    Date: Sun, Apr 12 2009 04:09:33

    QUOTE (manks123 @ Apr 12 2009, 11:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    ThumbAround
    ThumbAround Reverse
    Sonic
    Sonic Reverse
    Charge
    FingerPass
    FingerPass Reverse
    Twisted Sonic
    Inverse Twisted Sonic
    Warped Sonic

    I know its not a lot but hey, its only been like 2 weeks tongue.gif

    Thanks in advance

    In 2 weeks i could only do TA. facepalm.gif

    Try Sonic Rise, Inverse Sonic, Fingerless Reverse Thumbaround, Demon's Sonic, or Twisted Sonic Bust. wink.gif

  203. Dark Angel-REX
    Date: Sun, Apr 12 2009 09:49:44

    QUOTE (manks123 @ Apr 12 2009, 12:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    ThumbAround
    ThumbAround Reverse
    Sonic
    Sonic Reverse
    Charge
    FingerPass
    FingerPass Reverse
    Twisted Sonic
    Inverse Twisted Sonic
    Warped Sonic

    I know its not a lot but hey, its only been like 2 weeks tongue.gif

    Thanks in advance


    I actually disagree with Chobi. he knows enough sonics. What he needs to focus on now is around tricks.



    try doing backarounds. both weis and korean. Backaround tricks are tricks that makes combos look cool.
    or you could also try doing Shadow.

    But I suggest Backaround first. they are more simple.

  204. manks123
    Date: Mon, Apr 13 2009 02:03:11

    Okay, thanks guys. Will get learning as soon as I find my pen...

  205. Ulyx
    Date: Wed, Apr 29 2009 21:19:18

    TA & Reverse
    Sonic & Reverses with any finger
    Twisted Sonic with any fingers
    Charge & Reverse with any fingers (have trouble doing charge reverse with pinky and ring)
    finger pass
    half tap/fulltap & reverse
    twisted sonic bust
    infinities & double infinities
    neo sonic
    finger around
    flick
    shadows with first two fingers and 23 fingers
    demon sonic

    i can link some of these tricks into simple, smooth combos, but there's not enough variety...

    i dunno what learn next mellow.gif

  206. JSH
    Date: Thu, Apr 30 2009 00:09:30

    QUOTE (Ulyx @ Apr 29 2009, 05:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    TA & Reverse
    Sonic & Reverses with any finger
    Twisted Sonic with any fingers
    Charge & Reverse with any fingers (have trouble doing charge reverse with pinky and ring)
    finger pass
    half tap/fulltap & reverse
    twisted sonic bust
    infinities & double infinities
    neo sonic
    finger around
    flick
    shadows with first two fingers and 23 fingers
    demon sonic

    i can link some of these tricks into simple, smooth combos, but there's not enough variety...

    i dunno what learn next mellow.gif


    How about learning Backarounds
    and maybe some hybrids such as Extended Thumbaround smile.gif

  207. Ulyx
    Date: Thu, Apr 30 2009 00:57:21

    QUOTE (JSH @ Apr 29 2009, 08:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    How about learning Backarounds
    and maybe some hybrids such as Extended Thumbaround smile.gif


    any other hybrids?

  208. Outsmash
    Date: Fri, May 1 2009 08:37:59

    QUOTE (Ulyx @ Apr 30 2009, 06:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    any other hybrids?


    • Devil's Sonic
    • Devil's Around
    • Demon's Devil's Sonic
    • Devil's Shadow
    • Triple/Quadruple Infinity
    • Double (and more) TA
    • FingerLess Finger Around (FL Around) aka Bust/Bak Reverse


    QUOTE (TL317 @ May 1 2009, 01:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Back around, I think


    If you looked closer, he asked for help more than one and a half years ago. I bet he would've learned backarund by now (If he still spins). This thread is for people who are looking for what they want to do next. You answer the person if he is few posts behind you, not the person who started this thread 1.5 years ago.

  209. Yes
    Date: Sat, May 2 2009 22:03:35

    Hey. I just started pen spinning and i want to learn some other tricks but don't know of many to search for. What are some other easy tricks to learn besides the fundamental tricks? A link for a tutorial would also be very helpful. Thanks!

    Sorry if I did this post wrong. I am new to UPSB so i though that the "General Discussion" place would be safe to post my question. Also sorry if this post already exists.

    Thanks, Yes. (Jealous?)

  210. Chief_Snake
    Date: Sat, May 2 2009 22:41:10

    http://www.pentrix.com/articles/images/learning_order.gif

    ^have that bookmarked^

  211. Success
    Date: Tue, May 5 2009 22:06:21

    I've leraned all the fundamentals cept rev charge, fingereless reverse, sonic rise, fall twisted sonic twisted sonic bust shadow(but i cant use in combos) infinity figure 8 and i'm working on the bak... what should i do next?

  212. defect
    Date: Tue, May 5 2009 22:31:12

    twisted sonic variations, sonic inverse, arounds (they all look good in combos)
    and of course the bak, neobakaround and many more.

  213. DragonBoii
    Date: Tue, Jun 2 2009 13:37:43

    QUOTE (Tenku069 @ Sep 27 2007, 12:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    In my opinion it is not how hard the trick is, it is the patience and commitment that one puts into learning a trick that makes it happen. The less you put into a trick, the more your mind gets sucked into thinking that it is hard. Some tricks take longer to learn than others depending on how you approach the trick. So if you want to learn a trick, don't think about how hard it is, but put your mind into learning it itself and nothing else.

    Learn the Basics first. The basics is the gate to a broader mind of tricks and imagination in tricks


    wow lol, thx to u i wanna learn every trick in the book
    im newb =/

  214. Kuro
    Date: Fri, Jun 12 2009 23:41:25

    Well I've been penspinning for about 5 1/2 weeks, and Im a slow learner sad.gif So far all i can do is...
    -Thumbaround
    -Charge
    -Sonic
    -Rev Thumbaround
    -Twisted Sonic
    -Finger Pass
    -Rev Finger Pass
    -Wiper
    -Rev Wiper
    -Infinity
    -Rev Sonic
    -Thumbspin 2.0
    -Shadow
    -Triangle Pass
    -Thumbaround Harmonic
    -Warped Sonic
    -Double Charge
    -Double Infinity
    -Fingerless Thumbaround
    -Sonic Rise
    -Index Around
    -Fingerless Thumbaround Rev

    What should I learn next?

  215. HT_PS
    Date: Sat, Jun 13 2009 04:15:01

    QUOTE (Kuro @ Jun 13 2009, 07:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Well I've been penspinning for about 5 1/2 weeks, and Im a slow learner sad.gif So far all i can do is...
    -Thumbaround
    -Charge
    -Sonic
    -Rev Thumbaround
    -Twisted Sonic
    -Finger Pass
    -Rev Finger Pass
    -Wiper
    -Rev Wiper
    -Infinity
    -Rev Sonic
    -Thumbspin 2.0
    -Shadow
    -Triangle Pass
    -Thumbaround Harmonic
    -Warped Sonic
    -Double Charge
    -Double Infinity
    -Fingerless Thumbaround
    -Sonic Rise
    -Index Around
    -Fingerless Thumbaround Rev

    What should I learn next?


    You can try backaround, it's really easy. tongue.gif
    You can also try rev charge and sonic fall

  216. Ktk
    Date: Sat, Jun 13 2009 04:47:40

    I've

    all the fundamentals norma/rev
    their rises & falls
    infinity (all fingers & between 1-3) + ext
    t.sonic
    warped sonic
    bak rev
    TS Bust x1
    Bak
    Bak Rev
    Tipped sonic Rise/Fall
    Shadow
    Indexaround
    Rev Wiper Release

    I'm giving up on TS Bust Multiple for now (Oh wow it's annoying), what is there to learn?

  217. defect
    Date: Sat, Jun 13 2009 12:36:18

    QUOTE (Ktk @ Jun 13 2009, 02:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I've

    all the fundamentals norma/rev
    their rises & falls
    infinity (all fingers & between 1-3) + ext
    t.sonic
    warped sonic
    bak rev
    TS Bust x1
    Bak
    Bak Rev
    Tipped sonic Rise/Fall
    Shadow
    Indexaround
    Rev Wiper Release

    I'm giving up on TS Bust Multiple for now (Oh wow it's annoying), what is there to learn?


    Bakfall, SHadow rev, Shadow fall, Around rev, Aerials, Thumbspin, Double TA and rev and so on....

  218. borsha
    Date: Tue, Jun 16 2009 16:33:40

    i started pen spinninig like a month ago, and i learned:
    -ta
    -fl ta
    -sonic and reverse
    -fingerpass and reverse
    -charge
    -double charge
    -tw sonic and inv tw sonic
    -warped sonic and inv warped sonic
    -inv sonic
    -infinity

    What should i do next ?

    sorry if my english is wrong...

  219. Rinnow
    Date: Tue, Jun 16 2009 17:07:46

    TA Rev, FL TA Rev and Shadow

    You can also do some hybrids like Demon's Sonic or Devil's Sonic/Around after Shadow.

    Edit: Oh I forgot TA ext. and Bak.

  220. RoastBeef
    Date: Tue, Jun 16 2009 17:17:14

    so far, around 1 month
    -all the fundamentals (cant do fingerpass smoothly but still do it)
    -all fundament rev, except for sonic, charge(dont really care about charge because its hard to put into combo)
    -infinity
    -double infinity
    -twisted sonic
    -warped sonic
    -double charge
    -inverse twisted sonic
    -twisted sonic bust (only once)
    -K4LC
    -bak
    -midbak
    -backaround
    -indexaround

  221. JSH
    Date: Tue, Jun 16 2009 18:06:53

    QUOTE (RoastBeef @ Jun 16 2009, 01:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    so far, around 1 month
    -all the fundamentals (cant do fingerpass smoothly but still do it)
    -all fundament rev, except for sonic, charge(dont really care about charge because its hard to put into combo)
    -infinity
    -double infinity
    -twisted sonic
    -warped sonic
    -double charge
    -inverse twisted sonic
    -twisted sonic bust (only once)
    -K4LC
    -bak
    -midbak
    -backaround
    -indexaround


    you should really learn reverse charge...
    its easy to put in combo... reverse twisted sonic?
    and reverse sonic comes in handy too


    why not try learning inverse sonic and shadow?
    and some hybrids such as extended thumbaround?

    oh and ring and pinky bak of course

  222. RoastBeef
    Date: Tue, Jun 16 2009 18:32:10

    iunno why, but i cant seem to do shadow for some reason, first because my knuckles are HUGE maybe from cracking them, so they get in the way, also my finger doesnt seem to know when to let go of the pen =[

    for bak, i just cant "hold" onto it right. its either to loose and drops from my hand, or to tight i cant spin it =[

  223. JSH
    Date: Tue, Jun 16 2009 18:38:54

    QUOTE (RoastBeef @ Jun 16 2009, 02:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    iunno why, but i cant seem to do shadow for some reason, first because my knuckles are HUGE maybe from cracking them, so they get in the way, also my finger doesnt seem to know when to let go of the pen =[

    for bak, i just cant "hold" onto it right. its either to loose and drops from my hand, or to tight i cant spin it =[



    you should look in shadow thread and bak thread for more advice?
    this thread isn't for individual trick help : /

    you said you already learned the bak and mid bak
    you have the concept down so, with practice you should be able to learn ring and pinky quite easily.

    um about shadow, I say just practice, it took me forever to learn it actually...

  224. pReTTysMooTh
    Date: Mon, Jun 22 2009 21:51:57

    first thing i mastered was TA and the first time i tried fingerpass i can get it from thumb/index to middle/ring and back with relative speed and ease now im trying to get my pinky to cooperate. Every time i pass it to my pinky [takes a long time.. like 1-2 seconds... i hear a snapping sound somewhere in my hand trying to get it with my pinky. Not sure what it is but i assume it's helping me.

    should i be doing the charge right after TA instead of the fingerpass??? i know sonic is last.

  225. Kuro
    Date: Mon, Jun 22 2009 21:57:57

    There's already a thread about this but i suggest you learn the charge then sonic. The finger pass will take a long time so work on it
    http://www.upsb.info/forum/index.php?showtopic=1022

  226. akitaka
    Date: Sat, Oct 17 2009 12:27:09

    fingerpass
    sonic
    thumbaround
    charge
    sonic reverse
    thumbaround reverse
    charge reverse
    fingerpass reverse
    shadow
    shadow reverse
    backaround
    indexaround
    middlearound
    figure eight
    infinity
    twisted sonic
    warped sonic
    sonic x2
    inverse sonic
    cont. thumbaround
    thumbspin 1.5
    tipped sonic
    TA harmonic
    wiper
    K4LC
    double charge


    what should I learn next?

  227. RH
    Date: Sat, Oct 17 2009 21:14:01

    twisted sonic bust is a must, and so is shadow. i really doubt u can do cont ta >.>. also consider more twisted sonic variations. and more baks and arounds

  228. Nachoaddict
    Date: Sun, Oct 18 2009 02:03:46

    TA
    TA rev
    Pass
    Pass Rev
    Wiper
    Charge
    Fingerpass
    Infinity
    Sonic/rise/fall
    Twisted Sonic
    Sonic Rev
    Twisted sonic Inverse
    Twisted Sonic Rev
    Twisted Sonic Inverse Reverse
    Harmonic
    Bakaround
    Shadow


    Next? Thinking bout some aerial tricks but dunno where to begin...

  229. RH
    Date: Sun, Oct 18 2009 22:54:21

    QUOTE (Nachoaddict @ Oct 17 2009, 10:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    TA
    TA rev
    Pass
    Pass Rev
    Wiper
    Charge
    Fingerpass
    Infinity
    Sonic/rise/fall
    Twisted Sonic
    Sonic Rev
    Twisted sonic Inverse
    Twisted Sonic Rev
    Twisted Sonic Inverse Reverse
    Harmonic
    Bakaround
    Shadow


    Next? Thinking bout some aerial tricks but dunno where to begin...


    twisted sonic bust is a must. try some twisted sonic variations

  230. CaptainGolfBall
    Date: Mon, Oct 19 2009 23:06:08

    Alright, so I have learned the following:
    TA + TA Rev. + Harmonic
    (Twisted) Sonic (Bust)
    Shadow
    Bak 12 - 23 - 34
    Index Around
    Charge (cont.)
    Infinity


    What should I learn now?

  231. clay
    Date: Thu, Oct 22 2009 20:00:52

    For me, I am now learning all the reverse fundamentals and it is opening up a lot of doors for new combos.

  232. PillarsOfValhalla
    Date: Tue, Oct 27 2009 02:57:15

    QUOTE (CaptainGolfBall @ Oct 19 2009, 04:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Alright, so I have learned the following:
    TA + TA Rev. + Harmonic
    (Twisted) Sonic (Bust)
    Shadow
    Bak 12 - 23 - 34
    Index Around
    Charge (cont.)
    Infinity


    What should I learn now?

    Inverse Sonic (Forward and Reverse)
    Warped Sonic
    Shadow on all fingers
    FL Rev TA
    FL TA
    Extended TA

    ___________________________________

    I've got:

    TA
    Rev TA
    FL Rev TA
    FL TA
    Extended TA
    Pass forward and reverse
    Sonic rise and fall
    Demon Sonic
    Inverse Sonic
    Twisted Sonic
    Twisted Sonic Bust
    Neo Sonic
    Backfall (barely)


    Any suggestions?

  233. hoiboy
    Date: Tue, Oct 27 2009 03:00:43

    Stop modding and trading tongue.gif

    Learn your finger arounds first and improve your top spin repertoire.

  234. PillarsOfValhalla
    Date: Tue, Oct 27 2009 03:06:23

    QUOTE (hoiboy @ Oct 26 2009, 08:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Stop modding and trading tongue.gif

    Learn your finger arounds first and improve your top spin repertoire.

    I'm done modding wink.gif Trading definetely cut down or brought to a halt. Much more focus on spinning now wink.gif

    Alright, I've got arounds, just need to work on reverse around confusedsmilie.gif and, of course, top spins. shadow T^T

    Thanks

  235. p01zon3d
    Date: Tue, Nov 17 2009 02:08:00

    ive been penspinning for about a month but i dont know what to learn now
    charge
    sonic
    sonic rev
    twisted sonic
    warped sonic
    sonic fall/rise
    demon sonic
    ta
    ta rev
    ta harmonic
    finger pass (not smoothly)
    infinity
    index around
    middle around
    back around
    all baks
    bakfall
    shadow
    devils sonic/around
    levitator
    neo sonic
    tf charge rev
    fl ta
    fl ta reverse
    tipped sonic rev
    tipped sonic fall


  236. pakspinner
    Date: Tue, Nov 17 2009 02:27:10

    yeah keep going dont give on those moves. just keep at it and you will get down. i had the same problem but eventually i got it in about a week i think. so just dont give up... happy.gif

  237. Microwavablable
    Date: Tue, Nov 17 2009 03:44:03

    I know all the Fundamentals and their reverses, and the Infinity and Figure-8. What should I learn next?

  238. JC
    Date: Tue, Nov 17 2009 17:49:38

    QUOTE (Microwavablable @ Nov 16 2009, 10:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I know all the Fundamentals and their reverses, and the Infinity and Figure-8. What should I learn next?

    Shadow, Backaround, Arounds

  239. spinneraddiction
    Date: Tue, Nov 17 2009 22:54:56

    the twisted sonic, it comes to much use in combos thumb.gif

  240. shakenbake
    Date: Tue, Nov 17 2009 23:42:02

    i know double bust backfall (kinda its getting there) devil sonic fl ta's some other hard trick i invented.....................wut should i learn next

  241. Nation
    Date: Tue, Nov 17 2009 23:59:45

    QUOTE (shakenbake @ Nov 17 2009, 06:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    i know double bust backfall (kinda its getting there) devil sonic fl ta's some other hard trick i invented.....................wut should i learn next

    Hmm, I'd work on Reverse inverse stuff, Cont Baks, and Handarounds, like Hai Tua, Swivels, Ayatori's Handaround, etc.

  242. Raine
    Date: Thu, Nov 26 2009 21:20:25

    I currently know:
    Infinity and all variations
    TA, Fingerless TA, and TA reverse
    Charge, charge reverse (Somewhat)
    Twisted sonic
    Sonic
    Twisted sonic bust
    Indexaround, Fingerless Indexaround

    I'm kind of stuck on what I should learn right now. Thanks.

  243. Mr. Ninja
    Date: Thu, Nov 26 2009 22:10:35

    I know:
    Thumbaround
    Thumbaround Reverse
    Fingerless TA
    Fingerless TA Reverse (looks awkward)
    Sonic Rise (34,23,12)
    Sonic Rise Reverse (12,23,34)
    Twisted Sonic
    Backaround
    Mid Around
    Infinity (not all variations. The one i know is between thumb and index and index and middle)
    Figure 8
    Thumbspin 1.5
    Twisted sonic bust x1 (just learned it. I need to work on x2 but haven't found a good tut yet)
    Shadow (only about 40% of the time)

    I would like to know tricks and also a combo or two that I should work towards.

    Tanks.

  244. defect
    Date: Fri, Nov 27 2009 14:23:08

    QUOTE (Raine @ Nov 26 2009, 05:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I currently know:
    Infinity and all variations
    TA, Fingerless TA, and TA reverse
    Charge, charge reverse (Somewhat)
    Twisted sonic
    Sonic
    Twisted sonic bust
    Indexaround, Fingerless Indexaround

    I'm kind of stuck on what I should learn right now. Thanks.


    TA extended? Twisted sonic variations. Most of them are pretty easy, for example: Twisted sonic inverse, inverse reverse, warped sonic. double charge.

    If you can IA then just apply this trick to all the other fingers such as Middle, ring and pinky.

    there are also a few variations on the charge rev.

  245. Konik
    Date: Fri, Dec 4 2009 16:38:44

    I'm about 3 months, and I need to find a trick to learn next. I know how to do
    Sonic rise/fall,
    Twisted sonic bust rise/fall,
    Thumb/Index/Middle/Ringaround and revs,
    Backaround and middlebackaround,
    Neosonic,
    Charge, double charge and triple charge.

    So what should I learn next? Thanks in advance.

  246. Ice Clear
    Date: Fri, Dec 4 2009 23:09:32

    QUOTE (Konik @ Dec 4 2009, 08:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I'm about 3 months, and I need to find a trick to learn next. I know how to do
    Sonic rise/fall,
    Twisted sonic bust rise/fall,
    Thumb/Index/Middle/Ringaround and revs,
    Backaround and middlebackaround,
    Neosonic,
    Charge, double charge and triple charge.

    So what should I learn next? Thanks in advance.

    triple charge? ive never heard of that.

  247. defect
    Date: Sat, Dec 5 2009 00:31:16

    QUOTE (Ice Clear @ Dec 4 2009, 07:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    triple charge? ive never heard of that.


    a triple charge involves four fingers. so its just a tw sonic 34 -23 > pass 23-12 > pass 12-23 > pass 23-34. called a triple charge.


  248. Spinner4ever
    Date: Sun, Dec 6 2009 18:30:11

    I need to know waht to do next, I know

    All funamentals and their reverses
    shadow 90% of the time
    devil sonic
    twisted thyumbaround
    fingerless thumbaround
    twisted sonic bust
    figure 8 and extended infinity ( I can't seem to do a regular infinity)
    index around and fingerless

    so, any ideas?
    Thanks!

  249. defect
    Date: Sun, Dec 6 2009 22:29:51

    QUOTE (Spinner4ever @ Dec 6 2009, 03:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I need to know waht to do next, I know

    All funamentals and their reverses
    shadow 90% of the time
    devil sonic
    twisted thyumbaround
    fingerless thumbaround
    twisted sonic bust
    figure 8 and extended infinity ( I can't seem to do a regular infinity)
    index around and fingerless

    so, any ideas?
    Thanks!


    if you wanna practice more sonic variations pick one of these: inverse sonic (i would learn this trick first), demons sonic, devils around, flush sonic, angel sonic, isonic...
    Or tw sonic variations (tw sonic inverse, warped sonic...).

  250. DaviRey
    Date: Sun, Dec 6 2009 23:50:15

    QUOTE (PoisonedV @ Sep 25 2007, 10:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    OK, I have mastered 1.0 thumbaround and gotten very smooth at fingerpass. I, on the other hand, can't do a charge or sonic worth shit. Should I keep trying those or, like some people in IRC suggested, move onto other tricks? If so, what tricks?



    i think you should master charge and sonic because those are both fundamental tricks

  251. Margareth
    Date: Mon, Dec 7 2009 07:54:28

    i used to start at fingerpass then charge then thumbaround. then sonic and sonic variations..then starts at the difficult tricks..

  252. Spinner4ever
    Date: Mon, Dec 7 2009 23:04:29

    QUOTE (defect @ Dec 6 2009, 05:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    if you wanna practice more sonic variations pick one of these: inverse sonic (i would learn this trick first), demons sonic, devils around, flush sonic, angel sonic, isonic...
    Or tw sonic variations (tw sonic inverse, warped sonic...).


    Thanks, I made a list and finished tipped sonic, but I need your guys' help later, I know it happyy.gif

    'cuz I'm still a little new mellow.gif

  253. Nachoaddict
    Date: Tue, Dec 15 2009 05:46:58

    TA
    TA rev

    Pass
    Pass Rev
    Fingerpass

    Wiper
    Charge
    Infinity
    Double Infinity
    Triple Infinity

    Sonic/rise/fall
    Sonic Rev
    Twisted Sonic
    Twisted Sonic Inverse
    Twisted Sonic Bust
    Warped Sonic
    Harmonic

    Bakaround

    Shadow

    NAo wut

  254. defect
    Date: Tue, Dec 15 2009 13:01:36

    QUOTE (Nachoaddict @ Dec 15 2009, 02:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    TA
    TA rev

    Pass
    Pass Rev
    Fingerpass

    Wiper
    Charge
    Infinity
    Double Infinity
    Triple Infinity

    Sonic/rise/fall
    Sonic Rev
    Twisted Sonic
    Twisted Sonic Inverse
    Twisted Sonic Bust
    Warped Sonic
    Harmonic

    Bakaround

    Shadow

    NAo wut


    I suggest learning all the reverses if you didn´t learn em yet. Other tricks would be the extended TA, inverse sonic, FL TA and rev. so you can learn Double TA and Double TA rev. oh, and Thumbspin 1.5 of course. just to give some ideas.

  255. Ricercar
    Date: Thu, Dec 24 2009 12:55:24

    Hi guys.

    I'm at a loss of what I should learn. This is a list of the tricks I know:

    TA and TA Rev
    Charge and Charge Rev
    Sonic and Sonic Rev
    Sonic Rise
    Finger Pass
    Figure 8
    Twisted Sonic and Twisted Sonic Rev'
    Twisted Sonic Bust
    Bak
    Extended TA
    Infinity
    Extended Infinity
    Warped Sonic Normal
    K4LC

    So, What next?

  256. crinix
    Date: Thu, Dec 24 2009 15:04:52

    Double Charge
    Double Infinity
    Devil's Sonic
    Shadow
    Fingerless Thumbaround
    Fingerless Thumbaround Reverse

    You can study these, they'r nice tricks.

  257. zDog
    Date: Fri, Dec 25 2009 05:46:35

    I know:
    TA/TA Rev.
    Fingerpass
    Charge/Charge Rev.
    Sonic/Sonic Rev.
    Double Charge
    Infinity
    T. Sonic/T. Sonic Rev.
    Inv. T. Sonic/Inv. T. Sonic Rev.

    What move should I tackle next?

  258. defect
    Date: Fri, Dec 25 2009 14:50:57

    QUOTE (zDog @ Dec 25 2009, 02:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I know:
    TA/TA Rev.
    Fingerpass
    Charge/Charge Rev.
    Sonic/Sonic Rev.
    Double Charge
    Infinity
    T. Sonic/T. Sonic Rev.
    Inv. T. Sonic/Inv. T. Sonic Rev.

    What move should I tackle next?


    if you want something a little bit challenging then learn the shadow or the ta extended. if you want something quick to learn then how about the bak. oh, and you could learn rise and fall if you haven´t done it yet. so tw sonic rise and fall and sonic rise and fall. its good for combos later.

    i would learn the shadow first.

  259. Ricercar
    Date: Mon, Dec 28 2009 20:42:47

    TA and TA Rev
    Extended TA
    Fl. TA
    Fl. TA Rev
    Charge and Charge Rev
    Double Charge
    Sonic and Sonic Rev
    Sonic Rise
    Twisted Sonic and Twisted Sonic Rev'
    Twisted Sonic Bust
    Finger Pass
    Figure 8
    Infinity
    Extended Infinity
    Warped Sonic Normal
    NeoSonic
    K4LC

  260. Oow
    Date: Mon, Dec 28 2009 21:08:24

    QUOTE (Ricercar @ Dec 28 2009, 09:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    TA and TA Rev
    Extended TA
    Fl. TA
    Fl. TA Rev
    Charge and Charge Rev
    Double Charge
    Sonic and Sonic Rev
    Sonic Rise
    Twisted Sonic and Twisted Sonic Rev'
    Twisted Sonic Bust
    Finger Pass
    Figure 8
    Infinity
    Extended Infinity
    Warped Sonic Normal
    NeoSonic
    K4LC

    Maybe go for arounds, backarounds or baks. It seems like you do alot of sonic variations, so maybe Shadow Nor/Rev. More infinity variations.
    But definitely try to learn TF Charge Rev, that way you could have a nice transition between Neosonic and Fl. Ta Rev smile.gif

  261. Ktk
    Date: Tue, Dec 29 2009 07:13:34

    while you're on the neosonic>TF Charge Rev>FLTA Rev combo, try out bak/backarounds, or a palmspin rev. those are some more advanced tricks that link nicely to that... Palmspins are sex.

    On another note, should I bother learning the sonic derivations; demon/angel/devil's sonic? I can do them just fine, but I just don't remember them after watching the tut dry.gif

    Sonic
    Sonic 12-tf
    Sonic rev
    Sonic inv
    Sonic inv rev
    Moonwalk Sonic
    Moonwalk sonic rev (including 12-tf?)
    Twisted sonic
    Twisted sonic reverse
    warped sonic
    tipped sonic
    Sonic clip
    Flush sonic (working on)
    [ffs there are lots of sonics.]

    What good aerials are there to learn after ta and bust?

  262. defect
    Date: Tue, Dec 29 2009 10:52:37

    QUOTE (Ktk @ Dec 29 2009, 03:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    while you're on the neosonic>TF Charge Rev>FLTA Rev combo, try out bak/backarounds, or a palmspin rev. those are some more advanced tricks that link nicely to that... Palmspins are sex.

    On another note, should I bother learning the sonic derivations; demon/angel/devil's sonic? I can do them just fine, but I just don't remember them after watching the tut dry.gif

    Sonic
    Sonic 12-tf
    Sonic rev
    Sonic inv
    Sonic inv rev
    Moonwalk Sonic
    Moonwalk sonic rev (including 12-tf?)
    Twisted sonic
    Twisted sonic reverse
    warped sonic
    tipped sonic
    Sonic clip
    Flush sonic (working on)
    [ffs there are lots of sonics.]

    What good aerials are there to learn after ta and bust?


    maybe it helps if you just write down the notation of the tricks and memorize it.
    hm aerials, do you know TA release and Twisted sonic release? there are a lot of tricks you can combine with aerials. for example sonic release, shadow bounce, bakriserTA extended bust release, infinty release and many more. you can also do stuff like backhand bounce etc. you just have to experiment with it and see what you can get.
















  263. Ricercar
    Date: Sat, Jan 2 2010 03:33:02

    TA and TA Rev
    Thumbspin
    Extended TA
    Fl. TA
    Fl. TA Rev
    Charge and Charge Rev
    Double Charge
    Sonic and Sonic Rev
    Sonic Rise
    Warped Sonic Normal
    Inverse Sonic
    NeoSonic
    Twisted Sonic and Twisted Sonic Rev'
    Twisted Sonic Bust
    Shadow on occasion
    Finger Pass
    Figure 8
    Infinity
    Extended Infinity
    K4LC

  264. RainbowAceOfSpades
    Date: Sat, Jan 2 2010 04:47:34

    QUOTE (Ricercar @ Jan 1 2010, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    TA and TA Rev
    Thumbspin
    Extended TA
    Fl. TA
    Fl. TA Rev
    Charge and Charge Rev
    Double Charge
    Sonic and Sonic Rev
    Sonic Rise
    Warped Sonic Normal
    Inverse Sonic
    NeoSonic
    Twisted Sonic and Twisted Sonic Rev'
    Twisted Sonic Bust
    Shadow on occasion
    Finger Pass
    Figure 8
    Infinity
    Extended Infinity
    K4LC


    bakaround

  265. Shadowserpant
    Date: Sat, Jan 2 2010 04:48:21

    fingerpass better, and fingerpass reverse

  266. bushvatoi
    Date: Sat, Jan 2 2010 13:22:53

    sonic
    sonic reverse
    sonic 2x
    inverse sonic
    pseudo sonic
    shadow
    shadow reverse
    charge
    charge reverse
    twisted sonic
    double charge
    isonic
    Ta
    TA reverse
    neo sonic
    index around-mid around
    k4lc
    1.5 thumbspin
    infinity-double infinity-triple infinity
    pass
    fingerpass
    FL TA
    FL TA reverse
    double TA
    double TA reverse
    fake reverse
    back tap
    neoback
    index-mid around reverse
    What should I do next ?

  267. defect
    Date: Sat, Jan 2 2010 18:29:50

    QUOTE (bushvatoi @ Jan 2 2010, 09:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    sonic
    sonic reverse
    sonic 2x
    inverse sonic
    pseudo sonic
    shadow
    shadow reverse
    charge
    charge reverse
    twisted sonic
    double charge
    isonic
    Ta
    TA reverse
    neo sonic
    index around-mid around
    k4lc
    1.5 thumbspin
    infinity-double infinity-triple infinity
    pass
    fingerpass
    FL TA
    FL TA reverse
    double TA
    double TA reverse
    fake reverse
    back tap
    neoback
    index-mid around reverse
    What should I do next ?


    sonic clip.. you know pseudo sonic so sonic clip is pretty easy.
    sonic/twisted sonic variations, such as warped sonic, inverse twisted sonic, devil´s sonic, demon´s sonic, angel sonic, devil´s around.
    twisted sonic bust.

    and you could try to link a few tricks together which helps in combos for example twisted sonic 23-12 > Index around 12-12 (or something like that)

  268. GreymanofHershal
    Date: Sat, Jan 2 2010 21:02:23

    I know/learned roughly in this order:
    Fingerpass
    Thumbaround
    Sonic
    Charge
    Twisted Sonic
    Reverse Thumbaround
    Infinity

    I'm pretty fluent in all but the sonic, which i need to work on. >.>
    Anyways, any suggestions on what i should learn next? :/

    (EDIT: Added Infinity)

  269. RH
    Date: Sat, Jan 2 2010 23:08:13

    consider the revs of the basics and twisted sonic. also try learning more sonic and twisted sonic variations.

  270. pheonix
    Date: Wed, Jan 6 2010 01:12:48

    i can do(* = means i can do rev too):
    -thumb around*
    -sonic
    -charge*
    -twisted sonic
    -finger pass rev
    -infinity
    -infinity extended
    -figure 8
    -shadow
    -devil's sonic
    -twisted sonic bust x2
    -fingerless thumbaround*
    -back around (sort of)

    and thats it, what shud i go 4 next?

  271. Ricercar
    Date: Wed, Jan 6 2010 02:44:34

    Learn Reverses of everything you know.

    TA and TA Rev
    Thumbspin
    Extended TA
    Fl. TA
    Fl. TA Rev
    Charge and Charge Rev
    Double Charge
    Sonic and Sonic Rev
    Sonic Rise
    Warped Sonic Normal
    Inverse Sonic
    NeoSonic
    Twisted Sonic and Twisted Sonic Rev'
    Twisted Sonic Bust
    Inverse Twisted Sonic
    Shadow on occasion
    Demon's Sonic
    Devil's Sonic
    Finger Pass
    Finger Pass Rev.
    Figure 8
    Infinity
    Extended Infinity
    K4LC
    The Concept of "Palm-Down" XD
    Bakaround

    What now?

  272. Kirby
    Date: Wed, Jan 6 2010 03:04:58

    master shadow and learn middle around ring aound and pinky around then finally backfall

  273. RainbowAceOfSpades
    Date: Wed, Jan 6 2010 03:07:54

    QUOTE (Kirby @ Jan 5 2010, 10:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    master shadow and learn middle around ring aound and pinky around then finally backfall

    y do u need to lear the arounds. if u want to learn bak fall you need to learn the baks not the arounds. bak, mid bak, ring pak and pinky bak

    if i were you i learn more reverses and a few advance moves like shadow and double bust then work on linkages

  274. Kirby
    Date: Thu, Jan 7 2010 02:37:19

    I know all the below tricks (if they have * next to them then i know reverse)

    TA*
    FL Ta*
    sonic*
    charge
    pass*
    inverse sonic
    warped sonic
    inverse sonic
    devils sonic
    demons sonic
    devils around
    demon/devils sonic (hybrid)
    wiper
    infinity
    twisted sonic
    twisted sonic bust shadow
    ext. TA
    Thumbspin <6.0
    bak around
    mid back
    ring bak
    pinky bak
    back fall
    continuos FL TA

    Also I'm workin on haitua but am not gettin it, so dont suggest it, thanks.
    remember I can only do reverse If it has astrik * wink.gif

    so what do I do next?


    EDIT: I also know neoback and kinda hand around

  275. defect
    Date: Thu, Jan 7 2010 21:35:33

    QUOTE (Kirby @ Jan 7 2010, 12:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I know all the below tricks (if they have * next to them then i know reverse)

    TA*
    FL Ta*
    sonic*
    charge
    pass*
    inverse sonic
    warped sonic
    inverse sonic
    devils sonic
    demons sonic
    devils around
    demon/devils sonic (hybrid)
    wiper
    infinity
    twisted sonic
    twisted sonic bust shadow
    ext. TA
    Thumbspin <6.0
    bak around
    mid back
    ring bak
    pinky bak
    back fall
    continuos FL TA

    Also I'm workin on haitua but am not gettin it, so dont suggest it, thanks.
    remember I can only do reverse If it has astrik * wink.gif

    so what do I do next?


    EDIT: I also know neoback and kinda hand around


    you should learn charge rev. twisted sonic rev. youcould also try some more shadow stuff such as shadow fall, rev, shadow rise, shadow bust or extended TA bust .

  276. darkdazh
    Date: Fri, Jan 8 2010 18:29:54

    What should I do next? I can do:

    - thumbaround (& reverse, cont. x4)
    - ext. thumbaround
    - infinity (& double & reverse), figure 8 (&reverse)
    - sonic 1/2 & 3/4 (& reverse)
    - twised sonic 1/2 & 3/4 (& reverse)
    - tipped sonic
    - charge 1/2 & 3/4 (& reverse)
    - thumbflap charge (&reverse)
    - double charge (& reverse)
    - fingerpass (& reverse)
    - shadow (& reverse)
    - t.s. bust (4 on average, 8 is max)
    - midbust x3
    - middle around, ring around
    - bakfall (& bakrise)
    - bakriser
    - hai tua (to fl ta & bust)
    - palmspin
    - spreads (all fingers but can't spreadfall)
    - ayatori trick (on occasion)
    - twisted cobra bite (on occasion)

    And that should be it... =P

  277. Kirby
    Date: Fri, Jan 8 2010 19:31:08

    QUOTE (defect @ Jan 7 2010, 03:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    you should learn charge rev. twisted sonic rev. youcould also try some more shadow stuff such as shadow fall, rev, shadow rise, shadow bust or extended TA bust .



    I know twisted sonic reverse (just learned), i know shadow fall and ext. Ta bust. sorry for not including em

  278. defect
    Date: Sat, Jan 9 2010 17:51:52

    QUOTE (darkdazh @ Jan 8 2010, 02:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    What should I do next? I can do:

    - thumbaround (& reverse, cont. x4)
    - ext. thumbaround
    - infinity (& double & reverse), figure 8 (&reverse)
    - sonic 1/2 & 3/4 (& reverse)
    - twised sonic 1/2 & 3/4 (& reverse)
    - tipped sonic
    - charge 1/2 & 3/4 (& reverse)
    - thumbflap charge (&reverse)
    - double charge (& reverse)
    - fingerpass (& reverse)
    - shadow (& reverse)
    - t.s. bust (4 on average, 8 is max)
    - midbust x3
    - middle around, ring around
    - bakfall (& bakrise)
    - bakriser
    - hai tua (to fl ta & bust)
    - palmspin
    - spreads (all fingers but can't spreadfall)
    - ayatori trick (on occasion)
    - twisted cobra bite (on occasion)

    And that should be it... =P


    Tricks you could learn: Bak > FL TA rev, hai tua reverse, more aerials (TA release) and twisted sonic stuff (warped, inverse and more...) or multiple arounds such as double index arounds, middle...

  279. darkdazh
    Date: Sun, Jan 10 2010 06:02:00

    QUOTE (defect @ Jan , 11:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Tricks you could learn: Bak > FL TA rev, hai tua reverse, more aerials (TA release) and twisted sonic stuff (warped, inverse and more...) or multiple arounds such as double index arounds, middle...


    Did you mean warped and inverse sonic or twisted sonic? i can do inverse sonic and sonic clip (along w/ their reverses) but never seen warped or inverse twisted sonic.

  280. defect
    Date: Sun, Jan 10 2010 12:55:58

    QUOTE (darkdazh @ Jan 10 2010, 02:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Did you mean warped and inverse sonic or twisted sonic? i can do inverse sonic and sonic clip (along w/ their reverses) but never seen warped or inverse twisted sonic.


    basically, an inverse twisted sonic is just a charge 23 > pass 23-12 and the reverse would be a charge 12 > pass rev 12-23. a warped sonic is charge 12 > pass 12-23 and reverse to this trick is charge rev 23 > pass rev 23-12. easy tricks but good to know for combos.



  281. lDNl
    Date: Tue, Jan 19 2010 22:29:48

    i know...

    charge (1-2, 2-3, 3-4)
    sonic (34-23, 23-12)
    rev sonic (12-23)
    twisted sonic
    double charge
    devil's sonic
    infinity
    shadow (only 0.5)
    thumbspin (up to 2)
    rev thumbaround
    cont. thumbaround
    taps
    backaround (kinda)
    indexaround
    fingerpass
    rev fingerpass

    wat should i learn next? any tips on shadows or backarounds would be nice biggrin.gif

  282. RH
    Date: Tue, Jan 19 2010 23:52:23

    consider learning:

    twisted sonic variations

    the revs of ALL the fundementals

    twisted sonic bust

    no tips for shadow and backaround.. sry D:

  283. defect
    Date: Wed, Jan 20 2010 10:10:11

    yes, twisted sonic variations are a must.

    to add a few more: Fingerless ThumbAround and Fingerless ThumbAround rev.

  284. Ricercar
    Date: Sun, Jan 31 2010 01:03:41

    TA and TA Rev
    Thumbspin
    Extended TA
    Fl. TA
    Fl. TA Rev
    Thumbaround Harmonic
    Double Thumbaround
    Cardioid
    Charge and Charge Rev
    Double Charge
    Double Charge Reverse
    Sonic and Sonic Rev
    Sonic Rise
    Sonic Fall
    Sonic Rise Fall Harmonic
    Sonic Clip
    Moon Walk Sonic
    Warped Sonic Normal and Rev.
    Inverse Warped Sonic and Rev.
    Inverse Sonic and Inverse Sonic Rev.
    NeoSonic
    Twisted Sonic and Twisted Sonic Rev'
    Twisted Sonic Bust
    Twisted Sonic Bust x2
    Inverse Twisted Sonic And Inverse Twisted Sonic Rev.
    Tipped Sonic Reverse
    Shadow
    Demon's Sonic
    Demon's Sonic Bust
    Devil's Sonic
    Devil's Around
    Devil's Sonic Bust
    Demon Devil's Sonic
    Demon Devil's Around
    Finger Pass
    Finger Pass Rev.
    Figure 8
    Figure 8 Rev.
    Infinity
    Extended Infinity
    Double Infinity
    K4LC
    Korean Bak, Korean Bak Reverse, and Mid Bak
    Weis Bak
    Half Tap
    Full Tap
    Fake Double
    Fake Triple

  285. defect
    Date: Sun, Jan 31 2010 11:01:26

    QUOTE (Ricercar @ Jan 30 2010, 09:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    TA and TA Rev
    Thumbspin
    Extended TA
    Fl. TA
    Fl. TA Rev
    Thumbaround Harmonic
    Double Thumbaround
    Cardioid
    Charge and Charge Rev
    Double Charge
    Double Charge Reverse
    Sonic and Sonic Rev
    Sonic Rise
    Sonic Fall
    Sonic Rise Fall Harmonic
    Sonic Clip
    Moon Walk Sonic
    Warped Sonic Normal and Rev.
    Inverse Warped Sonic and Rev.
    Inverse Sonic and Inverse Sonic Rev.
    NeoSonic
    Twisted Sonic and Twisted Sonic Rev'
    Twisted Sonic Bust
    Twisted Sonic Bust x2
    Inverse Twisted Sonic And Inverse Twisted Sonic Rev.
    Tipped Sonic Reverse
    Shadow
    Demon's Sonic
    Demon's Sonic Bust
    Devil's Sonic
    Devil's Around
    Devil's Sonic Bust
    Demon Devil's Sonic
    Demon Devil's Around
    Finger Pass
    Finger Pass Rev.
    Figure 8
    Figure 8 Rev.
    Infinity
    Extended Infinity
    Double Infinity
    K4LC
    Korean Bak, Korean Bak Reverse, and Mid Bak
    Weis Bak
    Half Tap
    Full Tap
    Fake Double
    Fake Triple


    ok, here are a few more tricks: angel sonic, pseudo sonic (should take a couple of seconds to learn), shadow stuff (rev, rise and fall, bust ), neobak, palmspins (TA > palmspin) and maybe a few Aerials (if you like aerials). such as TA release, Tw sonic release etc.
    you can also work on some mini combos that are good for your later combos or freestyle such as : Tw sonic > neosonic > TF charge rev > FL TA rev or bak > FL TA rev something like that.


  286. Ricercar
    Date: Sun, Feb 14 2010 21:16:17

    TA and TA Rev
    Thumbspin
    Extended TA
    Fl. TA
    Fl. TA Rev
    Thumbaround Harmonic
    Double Thumbaround
    TA Release
    Cardioid
    Charge and Charge Rev
    Double Charge
    Double Charge Reverse
    Sonic and Sonic Rev
    Sonic Rise
    Sonic Fall
    Sonic Rise Fall Harmonic
    Sonic Clip
    Sonic Clip Reverse
    Pseudo Sonic
    Reverse Pseudo Sonic
    Moon Walk Sonic
    Warped Sonic Normal and Rev.
    Inverse Warped Sonic and Rev.
    Inverse Sonic and Inverse Sonic Rev.
    NeoSonic
    Twisted Sonic and Twisted Sonic Rev'
    Twisted Sonic Bust
    Twisted Sonic Bust x2
    Twisted Sonic Mid Bust
    Inverse Twisted Sonic And Inverse Twisted Sonic Rev.
    Tipped Sonic Reverse
    Shadow
    Shadow Bust
    Demon's Sonic
    Demon's Sonic Bust
    Angel's Sonic
    Devil's Sonic
    Devil's Around
    Devil's Sonic Bust
    Demon Devil's Sonic
    Demon Devil's Around
    Finger Pass
    Finger Pass Rev.
    Triangle Pass
    Figure 8
    Figure 8 Rev.
    Infinity
    Infinity Rev.
    Extended Infinity
    Double Infinity
    Double Extended Infinity
    K4LC
    Korean Bak, Korean Bak Reverse, and Mid Bak
    Weis Bak
    NeoBak No 12-23 yet
    Half Tap
    Full Tap
    Fake Double
    Fake Triple
    Palm Spin (from TA: 1-1.5; from Fl.Ta Rev: 1-2.5)
    Twisted Cobra Bite

  287. poisoned
    Date: Mon, Feb 15 2010 02:04:59

    QUOTE (Ricercar @ Feb 14 2010, 01:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    TA and TA Rev
    Thumbspin
    Extended TA
    Fl. TA
    Fl. TA Rev
    Thumbaround Harmonic
    Double Thumbaround
    TA Release
    Cardioid
    Charge and Charge Rev
    Double Charge
    Double Charge Reverse
    Sonic and Sonic Rev
    Sonic Rise
    Sonic Fall
    Sonic Rise Fall Harmonic
    Sonic Clip
    Sonic Clip Reverse
    Pseudo Sonic
    Reverse Pseudo Sonic
    Moon Walk Sonic
    Warped Sonic Normal and Rev.
    Inverse Warped Sonic and Rev.
    Inverse Sonic and Inverse Sonic Rev.
    NeoSonic
    Twisted Sonic and Twisted Sonic Rev'
    Twisted Sonic Bust
    Twisted Sonic Bust x2
    Twisted Sonic Mid Bust
    Inverse Twisted Sonic And Inverse Twisted Sonic Rev.
    Tipped Sonic Reverse
    Shadow
    Shadow Bust
    Demon's Sonic
    Demon's Sonic Bust
    Angel's Sonic
    Devil's Sonic
    Devil's Around
    Devil's Sonic Bust
    Demon Devil's Sonic
    Demon Devil's Around
    Finger Pass
    Finger Pass Rev.
    Triangle Pass
    Figure 8
    Figure 8 Rev.
    Infinity
    Infinity Rev.
    Extended Infinity
    Double Infinity
    Double Extended Infinity
    K4LC
    Korean Bak, Korean Bak Reverse, and Mid Bak
    Weis Bak
    NeoBak No 12-23 yet
    Half Tap
    Full Tap
    Fake Double
    Fake Triple
    Palm Spin (from TA: 1-1.5; from Fl.Ta Rev: 1-2.5)
    Twisted Cobra Bite

    swivel
    learn all baks + bakfall
    side spin
    bak to fl ta reverse
    air-thumb-index spin reverse

  288. Llamafood
    Date: Mon, Feb 15 2010 22:08:27

    I can do:

    Thumbaround/Thumbaround Reverse
    Sonic/Sonic Reverse
    Charge
    Twisted Sonic
    Infinity
    Double infinity
    Backaround
    Shadow
    Figure 8
    Pass/Pass Reverse
    Wiper/Wiper Reverse
    Halftap
    Thumbspin

    What should I learn next?

  289. defect
    Date: Tue, Feb 16 2010 17:54:42

    QUOTE (Llamafood @ Feb 15 2010, 07:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I can do:

    Thumbaround/Thumbaround Reverse
    Sonic/Sonic Reverse
    Charge
    Twisted Sonic
    Infinity
    Double infinity
    Backaround
    Shadow
    Figure 8
    Pass/Pass Reverse
    Wiper/Wiper Reverse
    Halftap
    Thumbspin

    What should I learn next?


    Thumbaround Fingerless plus reverse
    all the twisted sonic variations stuff. easy tricks but good for combos.
    and of course ALL reverses.
    if you can halftap then try fulltap.

  290. CSI@DarkNess
    Date: Wed, Feb 24 2010 09:35:02

    99%success:
    TA and TA rev
    Charge
    Sonic
    Twisted Sonic
    Infinity series(normal , extended , double)
    Korean Bak
    Sonic Clip
    Inverse Sonic

    not confident,but OK:
    Weis Bak
    Bak to Air (?)
    Double Charge
    Demon's Sonic
    indexaround
    Neo Sonic
    Fl TA rev
    Thumbspin 1.5
    Halftap rev
    Twisted Sonic Bust
    Extended Thumbaround

    Having a concept,may be 1in10 success?:
    Middlearound
    Bak fall

    Maybe I should learn charge rev?others suggestion?

  291. RdHg
    Date: Wed, Feb 24 2010 21:58:35

    QUOTE (CSI@DarkNess @ Feb 24 2010, 04:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    99%success:
    TA and TA rev
    Charge
    Sonic
    Twisted Sonic
    Infinity series(normal , extended , double)
    Korean Bak
    Sonic Clip
    Inverse Sonic

    not confident,but OK:
    Weis Bak
    Bak to Air (?)
    Double Charge
    Demon's Sonic
    indexaround
    Neo Sonic
    Fl TA rev
    Thumbspin 1.5
    Halftap rev
    Twisted Sonic Bust
    Extended Thumbaround

    Having a concept,may be 1in10 success?:
    Middlearound
    Bak fall

    Maybe I should learn charge rev?others suggestion?

    Maybe u should go for ext TA and the fingerless TAs... oh and fingerpass

  292. Tomoshiba
    Date: Sat, Feb 27 2010 03:22:22

    I can do -
    Sonic
    Sonic Reverse
    Thumbaround
    Thumbaround reverse
    Charge
    Charge reverse
    Fingerpass
    Twisted sonic
    Twisted sonic reverse
    Twisted sonic inverse
    Twisted sonic inverse reverse

    What should i learn next?
    Im trying neosonic, shadow, bak, demon sonic

    Thanks for all the help
    ^^

  293. RH
    Date: Sat, Feb 27 2010 04:10:56

    hm. i would suggest learning more twisted sonic variations(demon[your already learning], devil, angel, etc. etc.) also consider learning fingerpass rev?

    learn Neobak too

  294. Tomoshiba
    Date: Sat, Feb 27 2010 04:14:03

    QUOTE (RH @ Feb 26 2010, 08:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    hm. i would suggest learning more twisted sonic variations(demon[your already learning], devil, angel, etc. etc.) also consider learning fingerpass rev?

    learn Neobak too


    oh ok i thought that the inverse were the only variations of twisted sonic from eso's tutorial. and yeah i know fingerpass rev.
    Thanks

  295. Tetsip
    Date: Thu, Mar 4 2010 03:56:03

    I know:
    TA and TA rev
    charge
    fingerpass
    sonic and rev (rise fall)
    Rev TF charge
    FL TA
    FL TA rev
    TW sonic (and variations)
    TW sonic bust(4x)
    bakfall
    inverse sonic
    infinity
    figure 8
    TW cobra bite
    swivel
    neosonic
    triangle pass

  296. defect
    Date: Thu, Mar 4 2010 17:35:40

    QUOTE (Tetsip @ Mar 4 2010, 12:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I know:
    TA and TA rev
    charge
    fingerpass
    sonic and rev (rise fall)
    Rev TF charge
    FL TA
    FL TA rev
    TW sonic (and variations)
    TW sonic bust(4x)
    bakfall
    inverse sonic
    infinity
    figure 8
    TW cobra bite
    swivel
    neosonic
    triangle pass


    fingerpass rev?
    inverse sonic rev?
    i see in your list that you can do neosonic, fl ta rev and rev tf charge. there is a combo neosonic - tf charge rev - fl ta rev. if you can´t do it already.
    infinity variations if you like infinities. something like double and triple and quadruple infinity, extended infinity
    figure 8 rev.
    double TA, triple TA...

    oh and the shadow of course.

  297. Dylan
    Date: Sat, Mar 20 2010 21:49:56

    you wanna now whats funny? the guy who started this thread is banned and we're still answering his question! tongue.gif

  298. RdHg
    Date: Sat, Mar 20 2010 22:44:07

    Any suggestions?


    Spoiler:

    TA
    Reverse TA
    Extended TA
    Fingerless TA
    Fingerless reverse TA
    Sonic (Sonic rise)
    Sonic reverse
    Twist sonic
    Twist sonic reverse
    Twist sonic bust
    Neosonic/Gunman
    Shadow
    Devils sonic/around
    Demons sonic
    All the Baks
    Charge
    Warped sonic
    Figure 8
    Reverse figure 8
    Infinity
    Double infinity
    Triple infinity


    Spoiler:

    Spider spin
    Palm spin
    Bakfall
    Reverse charge
    Sonic fall
    Twisted bust x2
    Double TA
    Fingerpass reverse

  299. crinix
    Date: Sun, Mar 21 2010 00:04:27

    QUOTE (RdHg @ Mar 20 2010, 05:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Any suggestions?


    Spoiler:

    TA
    Reverse TA
    Extended TA
    Fingerless TA
    Fingerless reverse TA
    Sonic (Sonic rise)
    Sonic reverse
    Twist sonic
    Twist sonic reverse
    Twist sonic bust
    Neosonic/Gunman
    Shadow
    Devils sonic/around
    Demons sonic
    All the Baks
    Charge
    Warped sonic
    Figure 8
    Reverse figure 8
    Infinity
    Double infinity
    Triple infinity


    Spoiler:

    Spider spin
    Palm spin
    Bakfall
    Reverse charge
    Sonic fall
    Twisted bust x2
    Double TA
    Fingerpass reverse


    Inverse Twisted Sonic
    Inverse Twisted Sonic Reverse
    Sonic Moonwalk
    Hybrid Tricks and Combos
    Around Fall
    Quadruple Infinity
    Double Charge and Reverse
    Twisted Sonic 34-23

  300. defect
    Date: Sun, Mar 21 2010 00:08:54

    QUOTE (Dylan @ Mar 20 2010, 07:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    you wanna now whats funny? the guy who started this thread is banned and we're still answering his question! tongue.gif


    right, the same questions over and over and over again wink.gif but thats okay.

    QUOTE (RdHg @ Mar 20 2010, 08:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Any suggestions?


    Spoiler:

    TA
    Reverse TA
    Extended TA
    Fingerless TA
    Fingerless reverse TA
    Sonic (Sonic rise)
    Sonic reverse
    Twist sonic
    Twist sonic reverse
    Twist sonic bust
    Neosonic/Gunman
    Shadow
    Devils sonic/around
    Demons sonic
    All the Baks
    Charge
    Warped sonic
    Figure 8
    Reverse figure 8
    Infinity
    Double infinity
    Triple infinity


    Spoiler:

    Spider spin
    Palm spin
    Bakfall
    Reverse charge
    Sonic fall
    Twisted bust x2
    Double TA
    Fingerpass reverse


    now you can learn all rises and falls for every twisted sonic variation, for example tw sonic bust 34-23 > tw bust 23-12. its a pretty good training for combos imo. and moreover there is the sonic clip that you can add to your list.
    or just work on the tricks on your working on list.

  301. Darealone
    Date: Tue, Mar 30 2010 02:23:43

    Mastered tricks:
    1.Sonic
    2.Thumb Around
    3.Charge
    4.Reverse Thumb Around
    5.Twisted Sonic
    6.Twisted Sonic Bust
    7.Reverse Sonic
    8.Falling/Rising Sonic
    9.Demon Sonic
    10.Infinity(three variations)
    11.Double Infinity
    12.Figure Eight

    I've mastered all those tricks and now I don't know wat to learn. I've tried the shadow but it's too hard! I need new tricks to learn. Any help?

  302. SFR
    Date: Tue, Mar 30 2010 02:59:43

    Hey just to let you know next time you have a question like what to learn next, try utilizing the "search" feature the forum has because those types of questions have been asked many times before and have their own threads. For example your "what to learn next" would be found right here http://www.upsb.info/forum/index.php?showtopic=1022


    Enjoy happy.gif

  303. Mats
    Date: Tue, Mar 30 2010 11:16:36

    Try looking on the wiki. There's a tab at the side with different tricks and quite a few of the pages have guide photos videos. wink.gif

    Learn whatever the fuck tricks you think you want to from there. You can always look on youtube too, at Eso's tutorial videos for example.

  304. Miguel
    Date: Mon, Apr 19 2010 10:36:30

    QUOTE (SFR @ Mar 29 2010, 09:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Hey just to let you know next time you have a question like what to learn next, try utilizing the "search" feature the forum has because those types of questions have been asked many times before and have their own threads. For example your "what to learn next" would be found right here http://www.upsb.info/forum/index.php?showtopic=1022


    Enjoy happy.gif



    But we are in that topic huh.gif

  305. Fishcake
    Date: Thu, Apr 22 2010 01:00:28

    I know these:
    1. Charge
    2. Sonic
    3. Thumbaround
    4. Fingerpass (very choppy)
    5. Twisted Sonic
    6. Infinity
    7. Neosonic (Just learned yesterday)

    Right now, trying to learn these:
    1. Double Infinity
    2. Reverse Charge
    3. Reverse Thumbaround

    Any suggestions on what I should learn? I really want to do a combo. tongue.gif

  306. A.Sun
    Date: Thu, Apr 22 2010 04:30:34

    Ok, my first post here..
    I have been penspinning for a while, but just stayed to a few tricks, and now im trying to learn more.

    I have:
    Thumbaround
    charge(12, 23, and 34, but 34 is choppy)
    sonic (a bit choppy)
    fingerpass ( pretty smooth)

    If anyone could suggest some tricks to practice, that would be really nice.

  307. Oow
    Date: Thu, Apr 22 2010 04:56:24

    QUOTE (A.Sun @ Apr 22 2010, 06:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Ok, my first post here..
    I have been penspinning for a while, but just stayed to a few tricks, and now im trying to learn more.

    I have:
    Thumbaround
    charge(12, 23, and 34, but 34 is choppy)
    sonic (a bit choppy)
    fingerpass ( pretty smooth)

    If anyone could suggest some tricks to practice, that would be really nice.

    Reverses of the fundamentals
    Twisted Sonic and Warped Sonic variations
    Infinity
    Neosonic
    Korean Backaround and/or Weis Backaround
    Arounds

    I dunno the order, but twisted sonic should be pretty easy to learn. Hope this helps

  308. A.Sun
    Date: Fri, Apr 23 2010 04:10:17

    QUOTE (Oow @ Apr 21 2010, 09:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Reverses of the fundamentals
    Twisted Sonic and Warped Sonic variations
    Infinity
    Neosonic
    Korean Backaround and/or Weis Backaround
    Arounds

    I dunno the order, but twisted sonic should be pretty easy to learn. Hope this helps


    alright thanks.
    Any others? ive learned 3 of these things, and cant seem to find guides on the last two anywhere.

  309. Oow
    Date: Fri, Apr 23 2010 04:53:01

    Fingerless TA + Rev
    Shadow
    Infinity variations (extended, double, triple etc.)
    Double Charge
    Inverse Sonic
    Figure Eight
    Demon Sonic

    Maybe start to learn some of your already learned tricks in other fingerslots, very useful.
    And Eso should have tutorial for a lot if not all tricks I have mentioned: Click

  310. A.Sun
    Date: Fri, Apr 23 2010 14:28:09

    QUOTE (Oow @ Apr 22 2010, 09:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Fingerless TA + Rev
    Shadow
    Infinity variations (extended, double, triple etc.)
    Double Charge
    Inverse Sonic
    Figure Eight
    Demon Sonic

    Maybe start to learn some of your already learned tricks in other fingerslots, very useful.
    And Eso should have tutorial for a lot if not all tricks I have mentioned: Click


    haha yes, ive been following his tutorials.
    thanks again, but if anybody else thinks i should learn something, it be really useful

  311. Kirby
    Date: Fri, Apr 23 2010 15:22:18

    I wouldn't reccamed learning backarounds and other arounds yet. Learn the variations of sonic and thier reverses, like warped, tipped, neo, twisted, and inverse sonics. Practice your linkages before learning harder tricks like arounds. smile.gif

  312. feuxfollets
    Date: Sat, Apr 24 2010 13:51:29

    Mhmm so I have these tricks down now, wondering what to learn next.

    All fundamentals + revs
    Twisted Sonic
    Devil's Sonic
    Demon Sonic
    Inverse Sonic
    Warped Sonic
    Neo Sonic
    Shadow 12-12 and 12-23
    Indexaround
    Twisted Sonic Bust (only can do one atm dry.gif)
    Backaround (still working on this)
    Infinity double/triple

  313. SyntaxError
    Date: Mon, Apr 26 2010 01:14:35

    I know:
    ta reg/rev
    fl ta reg/rev
    sonic rise/fall
    double charge
    twisted sonic
    all busts
    demon sonic
    devil sonic
    flush sonic
    fake double
    ta extended
    bakaround reg/rev
    fl bak reg/rev
    inverse sonics
    shadow reg/rev
    palmspin
    thumbspin
    sidespin
    fingerpass
    shadow reg/rev
    scissorspin
    continuous ta
    neosonic
    1.5 bust

    I'm kind of stuck after that. By the way, can somebody post separate tutorials for corkscrew and swivel? Whatever they are....

  314. defect
    Date: Mon, Apr 26 2010 10:41:37

    QUOTE (feuxfollets @ Apr 24 2010, 11:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Mhmm so I have these tricks down now, wondering what to learn next.

    All fundamentals + revs
    Twisted Sonic
    Devil's Sonic
    Demon Sonic
    Inverse Sonic
    Warped Sonic
    Neo Sonic
    Shadow 12-12 and 12-23
    Indexaround
    Twisted Sonic Bust (only can do one atm dry.gif)
    Backaround (still working on this)
    Infinity double/triple


    more arounds plus their revs, tipped sonic , shadow busts, extended TA, can you only do TA and its rev? then you should learn all the other variations:
    extended TA, Thumbspin 1.5, cont TA and cont TA rev.
    neobackaround.
    oh, and of course extended infinity, quadruple infinity and double charge.

    QUOTE (SyntaxError @ Apr 25 2010, 10:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I know:
    ta reg/rev
    fl ta reg/rev
    sonic rise/fall
    double charge
    twisted sonic
    all busts
    demon sonic
    devil sonic
    flush sonic
    fake double
    ta extended
    bakaround reg/rev
    fl bak reg/rev
    inverse sonics
    shadow reg/rev
    palmspin
    thumbspin
    sidespin
    fingerpass
    shadow reg/rev
    scissorspin
    continuous ta
    neosonic
    1.5 bust

    I'm kind of stuck after that. By the way, can somebody post separate tutorials for corkscrew and swivel? Whatever they are....


    you can try and find a trick that you haven^t learned yet here : http://www.upsb.info/forum/index.php?showtopic=196

    maybe aerials? TA release. palmspin linking into other tricks such as FL TA rev > palmspin > FL TA rev > palmspin. something like that.

    hai tua.





  315. Duy
    Date: Mon, Apr 26 2010 14:27:39

    hi just joined 4room a while ago and im kinda stuck what im gonna learn next plz help.

    i know:
    charge
    double charge
    sonic and reserve
    twisted sonic
    infinity
    figure 8
    fingerpass (smooth)
    sonic rise and fall and harmonic
    thumbaround and reserve and harmonic

  316. SyntaxError
    Date: Tue, Apr 27 2010 01:26:35

    QUOTE (defect @ Apr 26 2010, 03:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    maybe aerials? TA release. palmspin linking into other tricks such as FL TA rev > palmspin > FL TA rev > palmspin. something like that.

    hai tua.



    I haven't completely mastered palmspin yet, any tips?

  317. defect
    Date: Thu, Apr 29 2010 12:56:27

    QUOTE (Duy @ Apr 26 2010, 11:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    hi just joined 4room a while ago and im kinda stuck what im gonna learn next plz help.

    i know:
    charge
    double charge
    sonic and reserve
    twisted sonic
    infinity
    figure 8
    fingerpass (smooth)
    sonic rise and fall and harmonic
    thumbaround and reserve and harmonic


    learn TA variations! TA extended and Double TA.

    QUOTE (SyntaxError @ Apr 26 2010, 10:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I haven't completely mastered palmspin yet, any tips?


    i found this one pretty helpful:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDO53ap7cgM

  318. Ricercar
    Date: Sat, May 1 2010 19:51:12

    TA and TA Rev
    Thumbspin
    Extended TA
    Cont. TA
    Fl. TA
    Fl. TA Rev
    Thumbaround Harmonic
    Double Thumbaround
    Double Thumbaround Rev.
    TA Release
    Cardioid
    Charge and Charge Rev
    Double Charge
    Double Charge Reverse
    TF Charge
    TF Charge Rev.
    Sonic and Sonic Rev
    Sonic Rise
    Sonic Fall
    Sonic Rise Fall Harmonic
    Sonic Clip
    Sonic Clip Reverse
    Pseudo Sonic
    Reverse Pseudo Sonic
    Moon Walk Sonic
    Warped Sonic Normal and Rev.
    Inverse Warped Sonic and Rev.
    Inverse Sonic and Inverse Sonic Rev.
    Inverse Sonic Fall
    NeoSonic
    Twisted Sonic and Twisted Sonic Rev'
    Twisted Sonic Bust
    Twisted Sonic Bust Rev.
    Twisted Sonic Bust x2
    Twisted Sonic Mid Bust
    Twisted Sonic Bust Release
    Twisted Sonic Bust 1.5
    Counter Twisted Sonic
    Inverse Twisted Sonic And Inverse Twisted Sonic Rev.
    Tipped Sonic Reverse
    Tipped Sonic Fall
    Flush Sonic
    Both variations of Flick
    Shadow
    Devil's Shadow
    Shadow Bust
    Demon's Sonic
    Demon's Sonic Bust
    Angel's Sonic
    Devil's Sonic
    Devil's Around
    Devil's Sonic Bust
    Demon Devil's Sonic
    Demon Devil's Around
    Finger Pass
    Finger Pass Rev.
    Triangle Pass
    IndexAround and Rev.
    MiddleAround and Rev.
    Cont. MiddleAround x2-x4
    RingAround and Rev.
    Cont. RingAround x2
    IndexMiddleAround 23 23, 23 12
    RingMiddleAround 34 23
    HandAround
    Figure 8
    Figure 8 Rev.
    Infinity
    Infinity Rev.
    Extended Infinity
    Double Infinity
    Double Extended Infinity
    K4LC
    Korean Bak, Korean Bak Reverse, and Mid Bak
    Bak~Fl. TA Rev.
    BakRiser
    Weis Bak
    NeoBak
    Bak 1.5
    Bak Rev 1.5
    ThumbSnap
    Half Tap
    Full Tap
    PalmTap
    Fake Double
    Fake Triple
    Palm Spin
    Twisted Cobra Bite
    IPBA Rev.
    IMBA Rev.
    MPBA Rev.
    Swivel P-12
    Scissor Spin
    Ayatori Trick
    Corkscrew
    Pinky Spread

  319. Kirby
    Date: Sat, May 1 2010 21:41:11

    QUOTE (Ricercar @ May 1 2010, 02:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    TA and TA Rev
    Thumbspin
    Extended TA
    Cont. TA
    Fl. TA
    Fl. TA Rev
    Thumbaround Harmonic
    Double Thumbaround
    Double Thumbaround Rev.
    TA Release
    Cardioid
    Charge and Charge Rev
    Double Charge
    Double Charge Reverse
    TF Charge
    TF Charge Rev.
    Sonic and Sonic Rev
    Sonic Rise
    Sonic Fall
    Sonic Rise Fall Harmonic
    Sonic Clip
    Sonic Clip Reverse
    Pseudo Sonic
    Reverse Pseudo Sonic
    Moon Walk Sonic
    Warped Sonic Normal and Rev.
    Inverse Warped Sonic and Rev.
    Inverse Sonic and Inverse Sonic Rev.
    Inverse Sonic Fall
    NeoSonic
    Twisted Sonic and Twisted Sonic Rev'
    Twisted Sonic Bust
    Twisted Sonic Bust Rev.
    Twisted Sonic Bust x2
    Twisted Sonic Mid Bust
    Twisted Sonic Bust Release
    Twisted Sonic Bust 1.5
    Counter Twisted Sonic
    Inverse Twisted Sonic And Inverse Twisted Sonic Rev.
    Tipped Sonic Reverse
    Tipped Sonic Fall
    Flush Sonic
    Both variations of Flick
    Shadow
    Devil's Shadow
    Shadow Bust
    Demon's Sonic
    Demon's Sonic Bust
    Angel's Sonic
    Devil's Sonic
    Devil's Around
    Devil's Sonic Bust
    Demon Devil's Sonic
    Demon Devil's Around
    Finger Pass
    Finger Pass Rev.
    Triangle Pass
    IndexAround and Rev.
    MiddleAround and Rev.
    Cont. MiddleAround x2-x4
    RingAround and Rev.
    Cont. RingAround x2
    IndexMiddleAround 23 23, 23 12
    RingMiddleAround 34 23
    HandAround
    Figure 8
    Figure 8 Rev.
    Infinity
    Infinity Rev.
    Extended Infinity
    Double Infinity
    Double Extended Infinity
    K4LC
    Korean Bak, Korean Bak Reverse, and Mid Bak
    Bak~Fl. TA Rev.
    BakRiser
    Weis Bak
    NeoBak
    Bak 1.5
    Bak Rev 1.5
    ThumbSnap
    Half Tap
    Full Tap
    PalmTap
    Fake Double
    Fake Triple
    Palm Spin
    Twisted Cobra Bite
    IPBA Rev.
    IMBA Rev.
    MPBA Rev.
    Swivel P-12
    Scissor Spin
    Ayatori Trick
    Corkscrew
    Pinky Spread




    You know plenty of tricks just work on your combos. Also work on your Busts and FL TA's to get higher numbers more consistantly. But learn spreads: Pinky, ring, middle, and index.

  320. Ricercar
    Date: Thu, May 6 2010 14:06:17

    learn only spreads next?

  321. defect
    Date: Thu, May 6 2010 16:59:39

    QUOTE (Ricercar @ May 6 2010, 11:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    learn only spreads next?


    you got a lot of tricks on your tricklist, just practice combos and linking

    and you can practice bak combos or variations if you like baks. you know somehting like neobak > midbak or neobak fall

    the same goes for palmspins there are a lot of palmspin linking into other tricks such as FL TA rev > palmspin > FL TA rev.


  322. Zarx
    Date: Fri, May 21 2010 03:40:33

    (im sorry if im posting this in the wrong place) hey guys! just wondering what are some tricks that you can use to link other tricks in a smooth motion? oh and a little side question. i like the spinner spinnerpeem and i heard he likes to focus on "power tricks" what exactly is a power trick?

  323. ScaringChildren
    Date: Fri, May 21 2010 04:05:59

    QUOTE (Zarx @ May 20 2010, 08:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    (im sorry if im posting this in the wrong place) hey guys! just wondering what are some tricks that you can use to link other tricks in a smooth motion? oh and a little side question. i like the spinner spinnerpeem and i heard he likes to focus on "power tricks" what exactly is a power trick?

    All of the really hard tricks...
    IE Busts, spreads, cont. fl. ta's, stuff like that.

  324. crinix
    Date: Fri, May 21 2010 09:28:02

    Here are some power tricks of Peem, although all of them aren't recorded by Peem:


    Spoiler:






  325. Oats121
    Date: Fri, May 21 2010 15:53:38

    QUOTE (ScaringChildren @ May 21 2010, 12:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    All of the really hard tricks...
    IE Busts, spreads, cont. fl. ta's, stuff like that.


    hahahah.gif

  326. King Kommander X
    Date: Fri, May 21 2010 16:35:13

    Power tricks are some of the flashiest, most impressive and difficult tricks in the pen spinning repertoire.

    i can do hai tuas, ayatori tricks, the pinky hit thingy, busts, many of them, but they are hard to link together.

    here is a simple mini combo almost EVERYBODY does.

    twisted sonic>scissor spin>fingerless thumbaround

    or twisted sonic>HALF TAP>fl ta

    hope this helps!

  327. Karnier
    Date: Tue, May 25 2010 00:05:42

    Hey guys, I'm unsure of what trick to learn next. So far, I've gotten down the charge, reverse charge, sonic, twisted sonic, thumbaround, and a bit on the fingerpass but it's still a little shaky.

  328. defect
    Date: Tue, May 25 2010 08:41:38

    QUOTE (Karnier @ May 24 2010, 09:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Hey guys, I'm unsure of what trick to learn next. So far, I've gotten down the charge, reverse charge, sonic, twisted sonic, thumbaround, and a bit on the fingerpass but it's still a little shaky.


    fingerpass takes a LOT of practice to get it smooth, like weeks or months of practice. you can work on the reverses of the TA, Twisted sonic, Sonic and later the fingerpass reverse. they are easier to master than the fingerpass. another fairly easy trick you could learn is the infinity.

  329. DasToks
    Date: Sat, May 29 2010 12:53:33

    im using a pencil but iim gonna make me a RSVP MX soon so yha...

    i know:
    Thumb around - PERFECT
    Thumb around Reverse - PERFECT
    Charge - goes from 2 - 4 spins.. cuz i cant get enough speed + it aint smooth and fast but im working on it...
    FP + FP reverse - prettty smooth and fast ^^
    sonic - cant understand it no matter what.. i will learn it eventually but not now.. i prefer learning others now..
    Bakaround - i know it good but i need to work on my catch


    what should i learn now?? biggrin.gif
    TY! ^^

  330. Krispy Kreme
    Date: Sat, May 29 2010 13:48:07

    Use this thread next time.

    http://www.upsb.info/forum/index.php?showtopic=1022

  331. DasToks
    Date: Sat, May 29 2010 14:54:54

    im using a pencil but iim gonna make me a RSVP MX soon so yha...

    i know:
    Thumb around - PERFECT
    Thumb around Reverse - PERFECT
    Charge - goes from 2 - 4 spins.. cuz i cant get enough speed + it aint smooth and fast but im working on it...
    FP + FP reverse - prettty smooth and fast ^^
    sonic - cant understand it no matter what.. i will learn it eventually but not now.. i prefer learning others now..
    Bakaround - i know it good but i need to work on my catch


    what should i learn now?? biggrin.gif
    TY! ^^

  332. Anderfreeb
    Date: Sat, May 29 2010 17:35:09

    QUOTE (DasToks @ May 29 2010, 10:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    im using a pencil but iim gonna make me a RSVP MX soon so yha...

    i know:
    Thumb around - PERFECT
    Thumb around Reverse - PERFECT
    Charge - goes from 2 - 4 spins.. cuz i cant get enough speed + it aint smooth and fast but im working on it...
    FP + FP reverse - prettty smooth and fast ^^
    sonic - cant understand it no matter what.. i will learn it eventually but not now.. i prefer learning others now..
    Bakaround - i know it good but i need to work on my catch


    what should i learn now?? biggrin.gif
    TY! ^^


    you really need to learn the sonic before moving on imo. But if you're totally against that, wiper tricks like the infinity are pretty easy to learn. Or... well honestly you should learn the Sonic, it's a fundamental and after you learn that, you can learn twisted sonic, busts, shadows, inverse Sonics, and a whole bunch of other things. Good luck biggrin.gif

  333. defect
    Date: Sat, May 29 2010 22:08:26

    @DasToks
    if you don´t understand the concept of the sonic or how it is done it may help to watch several tutorials, not just one.

  334. siCzKee.
    Date: Sun, May 30 2010 04:35:38

    So, started spinning at the start of the year or so. Made myself a Buster CYL with a supertip, grips etc.
    Can do;
    Thumbaround
    Thumbaround Reverse
    Charge
    Double Charge
    Sonic
    Uprising Sonic
    Demon Sonic
    Twisted Sonic
    Finger Pass

    I'm learning the Shadow, atm. But what else should I learn? biggrin.gif

  335. Milk
    Date: Mon, May 31 2010 05:45:34

    QUOTE (siCzKee. @ May 29 2010, 11:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    So, started spinning at the start of the year or so. Made myself a Buster CYL with a supertip, grips etc.
    Can do;
    Thumbaround
    Thumbaround Reverse
    Charge
    Double Charge
    Sonic
    Uprising Sonic
    Demon Sonic
    Twisted Sonic
    Finger Pass

    I'm learning the Shadow, atm. But what else should I learn? biggrin.gif


    For someone of your skill level, using a Buster CYL is the biggest no-no. You should be using something like a RSVP MX, Comssa, or even just a pencil. This is because when you move onto harder tricks (i.e. Multiple Twisted Sonic Bust, Baks etc), you'll be having to do them with a lead rod.

    But for your tricks, continue learning Shadow, start on the reverses of the other fundamentals and maybe learn Baks and Infinities. happy.gif

    And stay away from using a Buster at this stage in your pen spinning.

  336. Gizmoe
    Date: Mon, Jun 7 2010 16:35:25

    Alright guys, i've learned ALL the fundamentals,

    -Thumb around/TA Reverse/TA continuous.
    -Sonic/Sonic reverse/Sonic harmonic.
    -Sonic rise and fall.
    -Demon's sonic.
    -Twisted sonic (~kinda~).
    -Charge/Charge reverse.
    -Double thumb around.
    -Fingerless TA/BA.
    -Fingerpass/ Fingerpass reverse.


    What should i learn after Finishing up the Twisted sonic? :3

    Thanks guys! biggrin.gif

  337. Kirby
    Date: Mon, Jun 7 2010 16:40:44

    QUOTE (Gizmoe @ Jun 7 2010, 11:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Alright guys, i've learned ALL the fundamentals,

    -Thumb around/TA Reverse/TA continuous.
    -Sonic/Sonic reverse/Sonic harmonic.
    -Sonic rise and fall.
    -Demon's sonic.
    -Twisted sonic (~kinda~).
    -Charge/Charge reverse.
    -Double thumb around.
    -Fingerless TA/BA.
    -Fingerpass/ Fingerpass reverse.


    What should i learn after Finishing up the Twisted sonic? :3

    Thanks guys! biggrin.gif

    devils sonic, also learn twisted sonic bust and back arounds.

  338. Gizmoe
    Date: Mon, Jun 7 2010 16:56:26

    Yeah kirb, i was thinking Infinitys, double charge, Devil's sonic, and Bak's biggrin.gif

  339. jan
    Date: Wed, Jun 9 2010 20:59:52

    uhmmm....... what are some power tricks that would be worth spending time learning...or look good in combos....

  340. noobpenspinner
    Date: Sat, Jun 12 2010 02:37:09

    I can do
    Thumbaround: 100%
    Double Thumbaround: 30%
    Thumbaround Reverse: 70%
    Charge: 100%
    Double Charge: 30%
    Sonic: 100%
    Uprising Sonic: 100%
    Demon Sonic: 70%
    Twisted Sonic: 100%

  341. Kirby
    Date: Sat, Jun 12 2010 03:47:18

    QUOTE (jan @ Jun 9 2010, 03:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    uhmmm....... what are some power tricks that would be worth spending time learning...or look good in combos....

    The 2 I would work on (you can always improve them) are Busts and FL TA"s

    QUOTE (noobpenspinner @ Jun 11 2010, 09:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I can do
    Thumbaround: 100%
    Double Thumbaround: 30%
    Thumbaround Reverse: 70%
    Charge: 100%
    Double Charge: 30%
    Sonic: 100%
    Uprising Sonic: 100%
    Demon Sonic: 70%
    Twisted Sonic: 100%

    Get all of these to 100% Then learn reverse sonic, reverse charge, and devils sonic. Also Learn fingerpass (another fundamental) it really helps in combos. After learning these learn twisted sonic bust and backarounds (it will be a little while till' you learn these)

  342. Uzeeh
    Date: Wed, Jun 16 2010 18:19:34

    I can do

    Fingerpass
    Charge
    TA, TA REV, TA Harmonic, Double TA, fingerless TA
    Sonic, SOnic Rise
    Reverse sonic
    Twisted Sonic
    Demon's Sonic
    Figure Eight

    Which tricks should I try next? I'm a pretty slow learner, so I need quite a lot of time with each trick...

  343. crinix
    Date: Wed, Jun 16 2010 21:43:12

    QUOTE (Uzeeh @ Jun 16 2010, 02:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I can do

    Fingerpass
    Charge
    TA, TA REV, TA Harmonic, Double TA, fingerless TA
    Sonic, SOnic Rise
    Reverse sonic
    Twisted Sonic
    Demon's Sonic
    Figure Eight

    Which tricks should I try next? I'm a pretty slow learner, so I need quite a lot of time with each trick...


    Infinity
    Double Charge
    Twisted Sonic Reverse
    Shadow
    Devil's Sonic
    Devil's Around
    Index Around
    Middle Around
    Twisted Sonic Bust
    Sonic Clip

  344. sethbob652
    Date: Wed, Jun 23 2010 20:14:44

    QUOTE (Uzeeh @ Jun 16 2010, 02:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I can do

    Fingerpass
    Charge
    TA, TA REV, TA Harmonic, Double TA, fingerless TA
    Sonic, SOnic Rise
    Reverse sonic
    Twisted Sonic
    Demon's Sonic
    Figure Eight

    Which tricks should I try next? I'm a pretty slow learner, so I need quite a lot of time with each trick...

    try fake double, ext TA,(good 4 combos)