UPSB v3
Minor Collaborations / Moonlight Trust (team) Collab!
1st Collab
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Date: Fri, Aug 29 2008 23:56:42
Please enjoy
Download the video
EDIT:
I just reuploaded the collab because as Andrew~ said, it was his video. The names are edited, sorry about that Andrew~ and pivoT.
I think I forgot to mention, this collab has no intention to compare with others, but more like doing for fun. We made this collab just to enjoy with our team and of course to show that our team exist. Please don't say like "Genesis pwn your team" etc. You honestly shouldn't compare an elite team with this new team. Why compare serious penspinners with penspinners who want to have fun?
Of course all comments are welcome, even good and bad... but please remember, we made this collab not to show that we want compete with others but more for us self and the existence of the team.
So before I leave on holiday... Please enjoy the penspinning of the team Moonlight Trust. -
Date: Fri, Aug 29 2008 23:59:14
OH
MY
FUDGING
GOSH.
SO FUDGING EPIC OMG OMG OMG! LW LW GO GO GO
MOONLIGHT TRUST
MOONLIGHT TRUST
SO EPIC GO GO GO!
I am so proud to be in this colab. Thanks for having me guys/girls
MOONLIGHT SHADOW
Lost in the river lost saturday night, carried away by a moonlight shadow *music note*
GOOD WAY TO ROCK THE HOUSE ON YOUR FIRST EDITED VIDEO EVER!
I really enjoyed PenNinja, Domik, and Jaybles penspinning. Same with patte. you guys rock. -
Date: Fri, Aug 29 2008 23:59:43
Very nice collab
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Date: Sat, Aug 30 2008 00:00:58
Very nice guys (and gals) but...
Tone: what was the second picture of in your video?
i saw : Moonlight Trust
(picture of a moon) and (?????) -
Date: Sat, Aug 30 2008 00:11:00QUOTE (000zero0000 @ Aug 30 2008, 02:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Very nice guys (and gals) but...
Tone: what was the second picture of in your video?
i saw : Moonlight Trust
(picture of a moon) and (?????)
A smilie like this ---> =) -
Date: Sat, Aug 30 2008 00:14:56QUOTE (LotusWing @ Aug 29 2008, 05:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>A smilie like this ---> =)
really?
doesn't look like a smile (cyclops smile then?)
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Date: Sat, Aug 30 2008 00:14:58
very nice collab! great spinning and awesome editting LW
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Date: Sat, Aug 30 2008 00:17:48
Nice spinning of Domik and Andrew~ and the others =) But the music wasn't good lol
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Date: Sat, Aug 30 2008 00:34:15
AWESOME COLLAB SIS!!!!!
IT WAS LIKE EPIC!!!
REALLY EPIC!! -
Date: Sat, Aug 30 2008 01:11:06
Woops double post
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Date: Sat, Aug 30 2008 01:15:15
i think there's a little mistake ._.
the vid of pivot is mine instead... -
Date: Sat, Aug 30 2008 01:20:38
I have to agree that the remix was terrible.
I muted it and played other music when watching it.
Other than that it was a decent collab with some nice spinning
also, good job on the editing -
Date: Sat, Aug 30 2008 01:26:29
im not saying the collab is bad. but seriously guys, its his opinion, and hes being honest...he cant help it, its just wut he feels. i thot it was pretty tight tho
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Date: Sat, Aug 30 2008 01:44:01
I likes Pen Nija's combo and Jaybles ^^ but devilofme was mainly Twisted sonic or shadow's
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Date: Sat, Aug 30 2008 01:53:11
Pretty nice collab with cool editing....
.....how many teams are huroni in??
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Date: Sat, Aug 30 2008 01:53:19
Supporting details...reminds me of English class...
Anyways...Frip and Tialys have a point. A lot of people who liked the collab didn't give any supporting details, or elaborate on it. *like myself* Frip then just gave it critisism, with reasons, and everybody flamed him.
Personally, I take no sides in this argument, but seriously, Frip just posted his thoughts and backed it up and everyone flamed him even though they had nothing to say other than "EPIC COLLAB." -
Date: Sat, Aug 30 2008 02:08:47
I really enjoyed the collab LW. Its amazing that this is actually your first editing attempt. Keep up the good work
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Date: Sat, Aug 30 2008 02:21:53
Pivot and Pen nigga are awsome.
I think you should put in a rap music jsut for Huroni's clip.
The music is not working for Huroni.
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Date: Sat, Aug 30 2008 03:20:23
Yeah... good collab....
Love Jaybles's style hehe -
Date: Sat, Aug 30 2008 03:58:17QUOTE (Fripâ„¢ @ Aug 29 2008, 05:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Was a pain to watch... ._. The remix was terrible... and the spinning was mostly meh.
Well I mean Moonlight Trust isn't an elite-spinners team...yeah the soinning was kind of meh...but
PEN-NINJA, YOU OWNED!!!!!!!!
hehe ;3
but i tihnk the remix was fine
lotus, really nice editing, i enjoyed it...glad it wasn't one of those crap collabs. -
Date: Sat, Aug 30 2008 04:05:40
I enjoyed the collab actually despite how like frip had said, the combos were only mediocre. Most of the people in the collab... we dont' see too much of and usually just spin for fun and not really to be super amazing like eriror (although i'm sure they'd wish to be...), or they just haven't spun for that long in general,...and so from that, i was just interested in seeing their spinning and how they do.
@Frip, many of the spinners from moonlight trust just spin a little bit in class or at work or at home for fun, so it wasn't expected for there to be super amazing awesome crazy combos or amazinggg spinners in this(with the exception of a few of them like andrew~, huroni, patte, etc...who probably joined cause they were all shoutbox friends? i dunno)
as for the music, i barely payed attention to it, so eh, w/e about that...
@Domik, PLEASEEE, get a better camera =.='''
@Huroni, sorry, but i expected a bit more from you =\
@LotusWing, good job on the editing for your first time
i liked what you did with tone and pen-ninja's name ---i didn't catch any of the other ones but sorry if i missed some other ones that you added effects to
i missed the entire flame war >.< oh well, i caught a little bit of it
Good job to all the spinners who participated in this and dont' worry about Frip's comment about your combos being below average, I enjoyed watching your spinning. You may be more motivated to get better due to Frip's comment, but remember, penspinning's still just a fun little hobby that we all picked up, no need to stress over it -
Date: Sat, Aug 30 2008 04:23:03
Damn..i wanted to be part of this. Could'nt find it under Major collabs. I didnt know it was a minor collab
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Date: Sat, Aug 30 2008 04:34:26QUOTE (Outsmash @ Aug 29 2008, 09:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Damn..i wanted to be part of this. Could'nt find it under Major collabs. I didnt know it was a minor collab
you have to be in the team. -
Date: Sat, Aug 30 2008 04:48:22
@tone.
Your combo was very consistent. 1 or 2 linking pauses but other that it was great. nice speed too btw.
but please more lighting next time, and i don't know if this was from the special effects that was put on the collab, but i think your camera was too close? (mabe the angle was a bit akward) -
Date: Sat, Aug 30 2008 05:13:01
Holy..Shit.. Aussies are getting heapppppps good
QUOTE (Nam Dang @ Aug 30 2008, 02:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I think Genesis will win... Eriror will winstop sucking up. Eriror isn't a god. -
Date: Sat, Aug 30 2008 06:20:50QUOTE (WhiteFang @ Aug 30 2008, 01:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Holy..Shit.. Aussies are getting heapppppps good
stop sucking up. Eriror isn't a god.
comes pretty close.
very very awesome video editing. i agree that epic is a good word to use, im very impressed with the
transitions effects and timing.
and i have to agree a lot of us arnt here for competition, so by saying that im impressed by everyones combo.
(feels bad bc didnt know half the people in the collab xD) -
Date: Sat, Aug 30 2008 06:44:52
dont forget that this collab is posted in the Minor Collab section... this means the thread creator acknowledges that it is acceptable for collabs in this section to be of lower quality and should be judged with lower standards/expectations.
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Date: Sat, Aug 30 2008 14:09:25
pen ninjas combo seriously raped. and i loved the spinning effect.
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Date: Sat, Aug 30 2008 15:10:32QUOTE (Fripâ„¢ @ Aug 30 2008, 11:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>dust_kid's video is too dark
Moonlight damnit. -
Date: Sat, Aug 30 2008 22:14:57QUOTE (000zero0000 @ Aug 29 2008, 09:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>@tone.
Your combo was very consistent. 1 or 2 linking pauses but other that it was great. nice speed too btw.
but please more lighting next time, and i don't know if this was from the special effects that was put on the collab, but i think your camera was too close? (mabe the angle was a bit akward)
My combo was
Disgusting spam after disgusting spam after disgusting spam...
And the reason my lighting was AWFUL (like my disgusting spam) was because the second time I filmed it, I messed up on my aerial and it hit the lightbulb of my lamp and kinda blew up
MoonLight Trust
For all you "critics", go hate somewhere else cause we don't need your opinions, we already know what's wrong and we'll fix it
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Date: Sat, Aug 30 2008 22:21:20QUOTE (Tone @ Aug 30 2008, 06:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>And the reason my lighting was AWFUL (like my disgusting spam) was because the second time I filmed it, I messed up on my aerial and it hit the lightbulb of my lamp and kinda blew up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVfg7lkf1Rk ???????????// ???QUOTE (Tone @ Aug 30 2008, 06:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>For all you "critics", go hate somewhere else cause we don't need your opinions, we already know what's wrong and we'll fix it
"Critics" aren't here to hate on you guys or anything, it's just to tell you guys how to improve and point on mistakes and things that they see wong that maybe you guys would've have on your own. Although the stuff pointed out hitherto has been pretty obvious, who knows, maybe there's a critic lying around that'll tell you something that you don't already know.
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Date: Sat, Aug 30 2008 22:33:20QUOTE (-JC- @ Aug 30 2008, 03:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVfg7lkf1Rk ???????????// ???
Dude! That's exactly how mine blew up
Stuff you find on YouTube these days
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Date: Sat, Aug 30 2008 22:34:53QUOTE (Tone @ Aug 30 2008, 06:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Dude! That's exactly how mine blew up
Stuff you find on YouTube these days
do you still have the raw file of that happeningg??? i wanna see xDD
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Date: Sat, Aug 30 2008 23:33:45
O.o Jaybles that pen looks huge. What mod is it?
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Date: Sun, Aug 31 2008 01:54:49
o.o
My hands are kinda relatively small but thats a twinart mod. -
Date: Sun, Aug 31 2008 02:37:58QUOTE (-JC- @ Aug 30 2008, 03:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> do you still have the raw file of that happeningg??? i wanna see xDD
Don't go like "Pics or it didn't happen" but when I replayed that scene, you can't even see the light cause my camera angle doesn't show it. It just goes dark and I kinda screamed
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Date: Sun, Aug 31 2008 04:04:25
I agree with Frip, this is completely overrated. If you want to help someone improve, you don't compliment everything they do like they are fucking the best in the world. Tell them spots where they can improve such as linking tricks and such.
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Date: Sun, Aug 31 2008 15:53:01
This was freakin' nice! LIKE KILLLER~~~
just one thing though,Lien,How come you didn't spin?
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Date: Sun, Aug 31 2008 15:59:59QUOTE (Xero)So disappointing...
Hey, I liked the music and editing. A lot, actually.
I just thought the spinners would be on a higher par.QUOTE (Jaybles @ Aug 30 2008, 09:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>o.o
My hands are kinda relatively small but thats a twinart mod.
Relatively small? They look down right tiny.
Kinda cute, when you think about it. xD -
Date: Mon, Sep 1 2008 04:47:34
the issue of "negative feedback" was discussed previously, but only in general. It is very unfortunate that this discussion came to be continued in the context of a specific collab because it makes it sounds like that it's an issue with that collab only, but it's not.
looks like this thread will continue to be closed until the thread creator (or may be the Moonlight team) feels it is safe to continue the discussion in a peaceful manner.
PS: in the future, please add in the first post what kind of feedbacks you want. e.g.: "Only positive feedback" or "Constructive criticisms welcome" or "Haters, don't post." -
Date: Mon, Sep 1 2008 07:50:19
The thread has been cleaned. If I see any more unnecessary drama, I won't hesitate.
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Date: Mon, Sep 1 2008 09:14:42
yay reopened
i forgot the rest of the stuff i was gonna say but...
huroni, jaybles, nice
lonefang, very nice little pose thing there
and andrew, that angle was epic -
Date: Mon, Sep 1 2008 12:23:31QUOTE (Shadowserpant @ Sep 1 2008, 05:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>yay reopened
i forgot the rest of the stuff i was gonna say but...
huroni, jaybles, nice
lonefang, very nice little pose thing there
and andrew, that angle was epic
ide like to add that he stole the pose off me >.> even told me about it XD
*shake fist at LF*
every1 spun well, watever people want to say about it -.-
for many people it was their 1st or 2nd time recording and that gets kinda scary when its going into a collab -
Date: Mon, Sep 1 2008 13:59:20QUOTE (xxdefinitionxx @ Aug 30 2008, 10:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>you have to be in the team.
I found out. Lotus Wing, what software did u use to edit
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Date: Mon, Sep 1 2008 14:29:28
Sony Vegas Corparate.
Shes away on holiday but ill try and answer any questions. -
Date: Mon, Sep 1 2008 14:36:33QUOTE (Jaybles @ Sep 1 2008, 08:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Sony Vegas Corparate.
Shes away on holiday but ill try and answer any questions.
Do u have to pay to download or is it free?? -
Date: Mon, Sep 1 2008 14:45:01QUOTE (Pen-Ninja @ Sep 1 2008, 08:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>ide like to add that he stole the pose off me >.> even told me about it XD
*shake fist at LF*
every1 spun well, watever people want to say about it -.-
for many people it was their 1st or 2nd time recording and that gets kinda scary when its going into a collab
depends which pose? my finish salute or the ninja freeze thing, if its the finish salute then thats MINE but if he means the ninja freeze then ok LOL i took that of Pen-Ninja -
Date: Mon, Sep 1 2008 14:45:57
Sony Vegas costs money.
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Date: Mon, Sep 1 2008 15:15:14
Sony Vegas is a professional video editing software so you do have to purchase a license. Futhermore, the version my Sis has is the corperate one.
You can get a trial version on their site though. -
Date: Mon, Sep 1 2008 17:58:14
i loved andrew and neonux's spinning
+ pen-ninja and jaybles's ending too -
Date: Mon, Sep 1 2008 19:45:24
my post was deleted. so... anyways. about the collab. i liked it =D. all the spinning was fair. the music wasnt the best but it sure wasnt bad. =D it did go with your clan name tho. great editing lotuswing =D. =DDDD
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Date: Tue, Sep 2 2008 04:00:27
@lotus wing
about your editing...
I really liked the introduction part (with the dark spinning) i thought that was really cool.
but i did not like...
how you used the effects to make a dark setting kind of thing. it made the people look like they recorded really closly to their pens than they actually did.
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Date: Thu, Sep 4 2008 13:00:09
My Thoughts About the Collab:
Introduction (00:00-00:14):
I feel that the introduction was quite nice. A lot of moon stills to represent the team's name, Moonlight Trust.
I like the idea that the pen was dropped from the moon into LotusWing's hands. It kind of signifies the birth of the team. She performs a simple combo:
Sonic 34-23 > Sonic 23-12 > Charge 12 > Thumbaround T1-T1> Reverse Thumbaround.
Then the screen changes to show the first spinner.
I felt that the UPSB font could have been more stylised by it was fine with me. I liked the Moonlight Trust fonts. Very round and moon-ish.
Section Rating: 9/10 (-1 for the UPSB font)
Rashingan (00:15-00:21):
I thought his combo wasnt very smooth. He had two or three pauses that caused the unsmoothness.
The ending was very satisfactory too. The hand position was awkward and looked like the combo was cut short.
The transition from the previous section was smooth.
Section Rating: 4/10 (Bad Combo)
Randomhero (00:21-00:28):
I enjoyed his combo a lot! Very sweet shadows and I loved the effect. The ending was sweet.
Section Rating: 9/10
DevilOfMe (00:28-00:43):
Very smooth combo. Although the difficulty wasnt at a very high level.
Background fitted the theme very perfectly.
Music was very well in sync with the combo.
Section Rating: 8/10 (Low Difficulty)
Dust_Kid (00:43-00:53)
Nice.
Was on a higher difficulty level than the majority of the spinners in the collab.
Albeit, the vid was too dark.
Section Rating: 9/10 (Too Dark Vid)
Domik (00:43-01:14):
Ew. ww.
Good Combo. Abit too long and spammy but good altogether. Decent Difficulty.
Camera quality....very very bad...
Was the only part of the collab i didnt like to watch.
Section Rating: 6/10 (Good Combo but bad camera)
Huroni (01:14-01:30):
Just "Holy Shit" compared to all of the other combos.
Love the angle and the speed.
Go Huroni!
Section Rating: 10/10
Moonlight Trust with Moon (01:30-01:33)
Nice ^^
Section Rating: 10/10
Andrew~ (01:33=01:45)
Wow. Just Wow.
Sweet angle. Very Smooth combo. Very nice passes.
The colour of the pen contrasts very nicely with the dark background creating a very aesthestically appealing combo.
The angle of the video was very interesting and added to the appeal of the combo.
Also one of the highlights of the collab as mentioned by one of the critics.
Section Rating: 10/10
Patte (01:45-02:00)
Another one of the highlights of the collab, Patte made an amazing entrance by tossing the pen into the spinning hand. The combo was nice and smooth although i felt that it was too long.
The contrast between the hand the the dark background also fitted the collab very well.
Well done!
Section Rating: 10/10
Jaybles (02:00-02:15)
Meh. I was okay.
Awesome music syncing
Section Rating: -/10
LoneFang (02:15-02:32)
Had two unnecessary pauses in the combo which contributed to the unsmoothness of the combo.
One was before the infinity segment and it made the transtition really awkward.
Overall spinning was alright though. I really liked the shocker pose.
Section Rating: 7/10
Neoknux (02:32-02:54)
Awesome combo. Loved the direction changes. Very smooth.
I really liked the ending.
The music was synced really well to the combo.
Section Rating: 9/10
Tone (02:54-03:21)
Nice ^^
Although it was abit spammy but the combo was generally smooth.
Nice aerial.
Section Rating: 8/10
Pen Ninja (03:21-03:39):
Need I say more?
Section Rating: 10/10
Credits with the gestures (03:39-04:04):
Hehe i like this alot.
Very nice idea. Shows alot of fun.
Section Rating: 10/10
Lien's Spinning and ending (04:04-04:10):
Ill probably say something really biased here.
I like the To Be Continued ^^
Section rating 10/10
Overall Assessment:
I think that the collab was pretty successful. I liked it very much and I enjoyed watching it.
I have probably watched it about 30 times already and maybe more.
I am pretty satisfied about my part in the collab and I really do hope that MT Collab 2 will come out really good too.
Song Choice: I really liked the song. It didnt seem horrible at all to me. The remix wasnt bad and I found it quite enjoyable to listen to. All in all Im pretty glad that this song was chosen.
It really fit the theme.
Conclusion:
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Date: Thu, Sep 4 2008 13:03:31
Nice long one
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reflections anyone? -
Date: Thu, Sep 4 2008 13:08:11
@ -JC- : I will see what to do.I hope that patte will help me with this Sony Vegas 6.0^^
@Jaybles: The only part that you dont like to watch...hmm only cause of cam or cause of combo?
@all:Thanks.But im not so good at PS yet.
@LotusWing: I LOVE YOU!!!Rly nice Lien! -
Date: Thu, Sep 4 2008 13:12:02
Only the camera