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Forum Games / Mafia - AitP - Game Over - Town Victory
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Date: Thu, Sep 27 2007 18:10:46
POSSIBLE ROLES
TOWN
1 King:
The king knows nothing. His goal is to stay alive to win. He must also make sure that the assassin is dead.
4 Guards:
They all know who the king is, but not who everybody else is. They must kill the assassin and keep the king alive to win.
MAFIA
1 Assassin:
His goal is find out who the king is and kill him. When he figures out who he wants to kill, he launches a suicide attack in the day. If he kills the King, he wins, otherwise if he didn't pick the king, he loses and town wins.
RULES- There will be no talking outside of this thread.
- Non-game players MAY NOT post in this thread.
- Players must vote in the day to decide who to lynch. Once a majority has been reached, that person is automatically lynched. Players CANNOT vote for a No Lynch.
- There is no night phase. After every lynch, we reveal if the town has successfully lynched the assassin. If not, we move to the next day. The only way for the assassin to win is to figure out who the king is and launch a suicide attack on him. Unless he manages to lynch to King (which is impossible, since all guards know who the King is).
- There is no time limit.
- Do not quote / screenshot any PM you receive. You may paraphrase any information you receive via PM, though.
- When the assassin is successfully lynched, it's as if he has the final opportunity to launch his suicide attack and possibly kill the king to win the game.
- DO NOT EDIT YOUR POSTS. Use double-posting instead.
VOTING
Voting MUST be formatted as follows:
Vote: Player
I will not count a vote if it is not bolded, even if your vote is clearly stated.
You can also request a prod of a certain player publicly.
ASSASSIN PICKED MARTINI, TOWN WINS. KING WAS WHITEFANG. GG
Alive:
Viend
ShortAssassin
WhiteFang
Eriror
Dead:
toast
martini -
Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 04:32:54
GAME ON!
No time limit.
With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Good luck! -
Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 05:10:58
ah btw, prodding is possible.
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Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 05:14:47
wat's that?
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Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 05:27:33
when an user is inactive, players can ask prod: player in the thread. Then I send a pm to the player telling him to wake up. If he doesn't reply, he gets replaced.
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Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 07:16:11
i don't really know a strategy for this version of mafia..
so..i'll ask a simple question and anyone can answer the question IF they want to
1. did the king change from the previous one? (from the one where that guy got disqualified)
2. if the king did change..to who??lol -
Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 08:19:22
You should know if you're a guard or a king, so yeah... Mafia? Really stupid question otherwise.
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Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 10:57:21QUOTEYou should know if you're a guard or a king, so yeah... Mafia? Really stupid question otherwise. tongue.gif
Well.. I don't know the first question. I was assassin before the role changes
(second time I was mafia ever, both times the roles were re-done (aargh))
but yeah, there is no reason to ask when you're a guard or king... -
Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 14:24:49
please don't rely on the information of the old mafia game, the lineups are completely random every time, there's no association between the two.
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Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 14:45:19
Hi.
Let's get this thing started! -
Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 14:49:06
any idea how we should start?
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Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 14:49:19
Ok, just read over the thread
WTF Whitefang?
don't tell me the game is going to end already... -
Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 14:51:23
wat are you talking about? i was just asking random questions cause no1 did anything..
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Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 14:53:28
Dude if you don't know who the king is, that means your the mafia...
all guards know who the king is, and the king knows that he is the king.
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Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 14:57:00
i still don't get how i ended the game..
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Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 15:02:30QUOTE1. did the king change from the previous one? (from the one where that guy got disqualified)
2. if the king did change..to who??lol
Not knowing the answers to these questions means you do not know who the king is
All guards know who he is, and the king knows he's king.
If you are not a guard, then you must be the mafia... -
Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 15:04:56
just because i asked the question doesn't mean i don't know the answer to the question..hmm?
eg. wat's 1+1=?? -
Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 15:07:54
oh, sorry i guess i misinterpreted your post.
But still, giving up the identity of the king allows the mafia to kill him :rollseye: -
Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 15:14:54
since there is no day and night..
if noone votes..assassin won't be able to kill anyone right? -
Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 15:20:30
uh..
I think because there is no night phase for the Mafia to kill, he can kill anytime he wants to. -
Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 15:20:37
whitefang you misunderstood how the game is played. It's basically impossible for the king to be lynched, because that would be stupid.
Please read my first post, it says that the assassin can perform a suicide kill at any time to take down the king. -
Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 15:21:35
Hey guys, sorry for not confirming earlier, coulda sworn I sent Zombo the PM. Anyway, I'll tell ya what happened that made us all get new roles when the game is over.
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Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 15:24:26
ohh..so assassins gets only one shot to kill someone? and if they hit one of the guards.. they're fucked?
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Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 15:25:00
that's right
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Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 15:26:53
It's generally a good idea to read the rules and make sure you understand them before the game starts...
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Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 15:28:43QUOTEHey guys, sorry for not confirming earlier, coulda sworn I sent Zombo the PM. Anyway, I'll tell ya what happened that made us all get new roles when the game is over.
dude it doesn't matta..i only confirmed like 1hour before you did..so doesn't matta..
and do you have any idea how to catch the assassin? -
Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 15:39:24QUOTE (WhiteFang @ Sep 29 2007, 11:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>dude it doesn't matta..i only confirmed like 1hour before you did..so doesn't matta..
That has nothing to do with knowing/not knowing the rules. As for catching the assassin, I'd rather just trick him into killing the wrong person, but I think that would require to much coordination which is very difficulty to have considering we know so little. -
Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 15:42:16
and how do we trick the assassin??
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Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 15:48:46
Sigh...
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Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 16:12:06
@ShortAssassin..i know wat ur thinking..ur thinking that i'm the biggest noob that has played mafia..well, lemme explain myself..
QUOTEdude it doesn't matta..i only confirmed like 1hour before you did..so doesn't matta..
i was replying to thisQUOTEHey guys, sorry for not confirming earlier, coulda sworn I sent Zombo the PM.
and i have read the rules..i just misunderstood it..i thought assassin kills each person every night and when he gets lynched then he gets to do the suicide kill..i admit that's my fault for not reading it carefully.QUOTEI'd rather just trick him into killing the wrong person, but I think that would require to much coordination which is very difficulty to have considering we know so little.QUOTEand how do we trick the assassin??
this was just a question so you could explain urself more. because i just thought the assassin won't make a move until we actually lynch someone first.
believe it or not, i reckon i have some idea who the assassin is -
Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 16:16:25
Ok, you saying you confirmed an hour earlier makes much more sense now lol. I won't be talking about how to trick the assassin, because if he knows what we'd try to do he'll see right through it. It has to be a spontaneous thing that all the guards and the king picks up on.
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Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 17:45:22
something that the guards know that the assassin doesnt...
Something like the identity of the king..
but how do we weed down the mafia without publicly announcing (or making too obvious) the identity, without the assassin learning the identity of the king, then killing him?
*shrug* this is difficult -
Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 18:07:37
There are many ways to use our knowledge of who the king is to fool the assassin, it's just a matter of everyone (including the king himself) being able to catch onto the trick and go with it themselves.
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Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 18:33:41
man, why is nobody posting?
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Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 22:36:24
Because I was holding a party today, sorry guys.
This basically seems a guessing game right now, the only thing we can wait for is the assassin to slip up? -
Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 23:40:05
I wish I were the assassin simply for the irony with my name but no such luck lol.
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Date: Sun, Sep 30 2007 07:51:07
maybe you are a assassin.. short..who knows?
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Date: Sun, Sep 30 2007 10:43:04QUOTEthe lineups are completely random every time
I don't think that's a real argument
And if we want a slip up we have to have some discussion going. -
Date: Sun, Sep 30 2007 13:43:20
Ok.
Let's start putting subliminal messages in our posts stating the identity of the king, while talking about something else, say movies.
The message has to be obvious enough for other guards to pick up, but quiet enough so that the mafia doesn't.
The one difference between a mafia and a guard is the fact that a guard knows the identity of the king, so maybe code it in a way that only one who knows the identity can pick up.
loooooool im going loopy, this seems impossible -
Date: Sun, Sep 30 2007 14:11:15
Viend is never active..
wat i think is the problem even if the guard knows the king and the assassin doesn't, we can't just ask a question to the guards something only they'd know because even if they do know the answer, they can't answer the question cause if they post the answer, assassin will simply see the answer and copy it. unless ur planning to ask everyone different question,. -
Date: Sun, Sep 30 2007 14:47:22QUOTEwe can't just ask a question to the guards something only they'd know
The problem with asking such questions is that it is easy for the assassin to know who is the king by looking at the answer.QUOTELet's start putting subliminal messages in our posts stating the identity of the king, while talking about something else, say movies.
that would be a better way because that way the assassin doesn't know where to look for the answers. -
Date: Sun, Sep 30 2007 15:28:28
I don't think subliminal messages are the way to go. Too risky. We're just gonna have to try and trick the mafia, try and determine who it is based on posts, or just lynch semi-randomly.
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Date: Sun, Sep 30 2007 16:57:28
True.
Lynching randomly is a bad idea though.
Every lynch we make the more chance the assassin has to kill the king even if he doesn't know who it is. -
Date: Mon, Oct 1 2007 03:09:03
Prod: Viend
wake up bitch. -
Date: Mon, Oct 1 2007 07:13:02
let's just lynch viend since he's not active.. we have to lynch someone randomly first anywayz..don't we?
Vote: Viend -
Date: Mon, Oct 1 2007 12:22:27
Vote: WhiteFang
For being suspicious of using my inactivity as an excuse for lynching me. -
Date: Mon, Oct 1 2007 12:30:15
Okay now.. We're getting way too excited here. Let's be reasonable, okay?
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Date: Mon, Oct 1 2007 12:38:55
oh viend isn't dead;;lol
unvote: Viend -
Date: Mon, Oct 1 2007 16:59:53
Vote Count:
WhiteFang- 1 (Viend)
Not voting (5): martini, ShortAssassin, toast, WhiteFang, Eriror
4 to lynch. -
Date: Mon, Oct 1 2007 18:26:33QUOTEOkay now.. We're getting way too excited here. Let's be reasonable, okay?
true but this does start discussion
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Date: Tue, Oct 2 2007 00:52:24
VOTE: Eriror
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Date: Tue, Oct 2 2007 00:56:20
is there a reason for that or just randomly voting?
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Date: Tue, Oct 2 2007 00:57:22
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Date: Tue, Oct 2 2007 06:45:08
Lynching me would be a really bad idea, Toast.
Any reasons? -
Date: Tue, Oct 2 2007 10:59:00
I know a good trick to catch the assassin but sharing it would spoil it.
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Date: Tue, Oct 2 2007 11:01:16
then..do the trick so we can catch the assassin
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Date: Tue, Oct 2 2007 11:43:33
I'm thinking of how to prevent the assassin from knowing.
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Date: Tue, Oct 2 2007 13:19:39QUOTE (Erirornal K. @ Oct 2 2007, 02:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Lynching me would be a really bad idea, Toast. Any reasons?
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Date: Tue, Oct 2 2007 19:38:51
I'm not worrying if you don't give reasoning behind your actions. I'm not worrying at all, really.
Be a man! -
Date: Tue, Oct 2 2007 19:58:05
You should worry, that's the point of random voting, to get people to worry and slip up
or defend themselves, so do you have any defense against toasts arguments? -
Date: Tue, Oct 2 2007 20:10:40
There's only 1 person who would be able to slip up, and that's the Assassin. I'm not the Assassin, so I don't have to worry about slipping up. Why wouldn't it be toast himself? He seems too afraid to slip up.
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Date: Tue, Oct 2 2007 20:17:30
He is also random voting, which might mean he wants to lynch quickly, or just wants to start discussion.
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Date: Tue, Oct 2 2007 20:19:23
Hmm...
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Date: Tue, Oct 2 2007 20:21:46
I'm in no hurry, the more people there are, the less chance the Assassin has to kill the right person.
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Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 01:26:21
ok
UNVOTE: Eriror
VOTE: martini -
Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 01:37:00
Vote Count:
martini- 1 (toast)
WhiteFang- 1 (Viend)
Not voting (4): martini, ShortAssassin, WhiteFang, Eriror
4 to lynch. -
Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 01:41:28
VOTE : TOAST
yea just randomly vote everyone..eh? -
Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 02:11:30
yea dude, totally.Suicide Kill: martini
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Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 02:28:04
uh... ok.
well too bad toast you lost.
The king was WhiteFang
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I'm not sure what to say...
barely anything happened and you suicided already.
this is the PGT btw,
no need for a new thread when nothing happened really... -
Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 08:37:59
hahaha this game was soooo lame..
i knew toast was the assassin after the second post you made
cause when i askedQUOTE1. did the king change from the previous one? (from the one where that guy got disqualified)
2. if the king did change..to who??lol
you saidQUOTEOk, just read over the thread
WTF Whitefang?
don't tell me the game is going to end already...
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Dude if you don't know who the king is, that means your the mafia...
all guards know who the king is, and the king knows that he is the king.
dude -___-
toast suspected me as an assassin when i was the king.. which means toast doesn't know who the king is..
but just to be sure..i wanted toast to suspect me again..so i asked a dum question about assassin i already knew the answer to..i wanted toast to try and blame me as an assassin to cover him up, but instead zombo thought i haven't read the rules and shortassassin thought i was the biggest noob. so i gave up on that plan..
well..yea..i am a noob anywayz..but i did kind of know that toast was the assassin.QUOTEbelieve it or not, i reckon i have some idea who the assassin is
even though i suspected toast..but i couldn't just vote him without giving a decent reason. because i couldn't say 'vote:Toast Reason: suspecting king as an assassin' so i waited..then i realised viend was inactive..so i voted him for being inacitve..
then toast began to vote random people..so i took the chance and voted for him for voting random people. but he just killed himself..>.< WTF!!
i guess.. even though i suspected who the assassin was i didn't do anything to help other players to know.. so i guess i'm still a noob
now..2 questions
1. wat happened that made us get new roles??
2. Toast: why did you suicide martini?? you could've waited to be sure and even if you were sure it was martini, you could've waited until you actually got lynched,
EDITED: changed few wording -
Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 10:04:35
I request proper spelling, that post was REALLY hard to read.
Pretty disappointing game though, seemed like toast just didn't care anymoreQUOTE (Whitefang)so i asked a dum question about assassin i already knew the answer to..i wanted him to try and blame me as a assassin to cover himself up
The answer to that question was assumed knowledge, asking a question like that would make anyone think you're noob... -
Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 10:57:25QUOTEI request proper spelling, that post was REALLY hard to read.
sorry about that..better now??QUOTEThe answer to that question was assumed knowledge, asking a question like that would make anyone think you're noob...
tru tru..
P.S: Zombo i forgot i'm not allow to edit post here..is it ok since the game is finished? -
Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 11:52:21
WhiteFang see why I voted for you? A guard wouldn't vote the King unless it's to trick the Assassin into suspecting someone else.
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Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 12:49:00
Alright here's why we got new roles:
I was king first game, and Cybrax was apparently one of my guards. So he got my screen name for AIM and IM'd me and started talking strategy and shit. I dunno bout you, but the fun in being the king is that you have no idea who anyone is, so knowing who one of my guards was makes the game less exciting. So I PM'd Zombo the conversation, and we got new roles. -
Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 20:58:06
Wow whitefang, you had me around in circles...
Wow i was totally off track and played by you LOL
Man, i was so sure about it..
i had interpreted how everyone would play the game from each angle, for example how SA would play if he was king, Eriror, Viend, etc., but i never considered WhiteFang due to the rocky start from him. It also seemed like he didn't understand the roles and was a noob. T
I started from the wrong track, and eventually I guess, played too simply, and didn't think deeply enough.
From my past mafia game, I usually think too much and ended with the wrong conclusion, so I was much more shallow in this game. Especially since everyone was confused and was posting neutrally for so long.
If you read over the posts without suspecting WhiteFang as the king, you would see why i voted for martini. I was sure so early in the game, I thought the guards hadn't boiled up a strategy.
I ate everything up, and got overconfident.
I guess i did kill too early, but the game seemed to be going nowhere anyways.
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Date: Sat, Oct 6 2007 16:41:45
Aww toasty, i should have told you who the king was before you car bombed martini.
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Date: Sun, Oct 7 2007 00:50:03
how would you know who the king was?