UPSB v3
Philosophy / Spinning RSVP MX
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Date: Sun, Sep 7 2008 16:16:13
RSVP is definitely the most famous pen mod in penspinning communities. But why do so many people spin MX? Its unbalanced, so its not exactly the best mod for spinning. But people across the world still spin them. People say "once you get used to it, its good" Isn't any other mods like that? if you get used it, it becomes a good mod for you. If you give a new spinners variety of mods such as comssa, mx, KT etc and ask them which pen they think is the best, I think most of the new spinners won't pick mx. I am saying this because ALL of my friends think mx is unbalanced and hard to spin while comssas and kts are easier to spin.
My question is: why is mx so famous and popular?
I think the biggest reason that mx is popular is because it was made by Kam. My brother's friend who i knew for like 10 years was a hardcore PDS spinner back in the time when UPSB + PDS collab was made. it way before the time PDS store was opened. According to him, he said a group of spinners in a local area saved up like $40~$50 so they can trade with UPSB members for mxs. He said the only reason he wanted mx is because of it was made by Kam and had no idea how good the pen was until he got them.
So.. going back on topic.. What do you think is the reason why people spin mx? i love mx. its my favourite pen. but i don't think its the best pen to spin with. there are heaps of pens that is better to spin with. I spin them because of its..er..um.. 'tradition'? (i can't think of the right word atm) and looks. -
Date: Sun, Sep 7 2008 16:20:32
This I think is because it's one sided (errrm i mean Non- Symmetrical ) , and It looks like a pen so no one in class shall complain. so many mods are already based off of the mx, i mean a lot of people have been waiting for a mechanical pencil version of an mx for so long. It also looks aesthetically appealing
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Date: Sun, Sep 7 2008 16:20:54
I believe one of the reasons it that the MX is one of the first pens that were modded to be suited for pen spinning. What are the other pen mods that are as old and well know as a RSVP MX?
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Date: Sun, Sep 7 2008 17:24:14
Well, you said it, the RSVP MX is unbalanced, but I'm pretty sure it was designed to be a back heavy pen, compensating because of the momentum on each side, that is easier to spin than a capped RSVP. And that's the reason why people love to spin it. The weight distribution is good but people might not like it when they compare it to other mods they like, but that's just preference.
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Date: Sun, Sep 7 2008 17:29:22
I like it because it helps me learn linking to get to a different part of the pen. For example: I have a hard time starting neobak -> midbak 1.5s at the cap, so I learned to start with a bak first, then into the midbak 1.5. Things like this really help you get control of the pen, and know what you're doing at all times.
Kinda hard to explain..gif)
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Date: Sun, Sep 7 2008 17:37:37
The mx looks nice, has decent weight, and only uses two pens. I'm pretty sure that if you gave a variety of pen mods several years ago, most spinners would say the mx is easier to spin with. I like the mx because its easy to make and easy to customize.
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Date: Sun, Sep 7 2008 17:43:56
1) its made by kam
2) its my favourite pen
3) i love to see korean ppl spinning it
4) the korean style mx looks so professional
5) its made by Kam
6) its single sided
7) i find it better than comssa and kt ,
8) cheap
9) a good insert can make it look kick-ass
10) i spin it because pholord spins it
11) it definitely looks like a pen
12) eso uses it for tutorials, so its easier to learn
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Date: Sun, Sep 7 2008 19:30:10
I believe most of the reasons have been said.
My theory is that most people see the MX as a beginners pen and from that point on will always remember how good it was compared to normal pens and will always remember it for that disregarding it's negative aspects compared to other mods.
Now you can say that the MX is unbalanced but it's all due to your modding, my MX is perfectly balanced and I like to go back to it from time to time.
Also- it's relatively cheap and very popular due to it being created by Kam. -
Date: Sun, Sep 7 2008 19:50:06
The reason I spin a MX is because i want to show people that I can spin a MX.
Like. I have so much respect for people that spin MX's. Its hard to spin, Which makes it more challenging.
I mean, Whats so great about doing a hard trick with something like a "Grip Aviare" (I've never spun one, But from what i've heard...) If everyone can do it?
If only a few people can do that same hard trick with a MX, then thats impressive.
"I like Spinning MX's because i want to impress people" -
Date: Sun, Sep 7 2008 20:53:03
Yeah, I spin with an MX now full-time. I tried comssa, MX^2, KT, MSXA and I like MX the best. I made mine so that the COP is the COG so I guess its not an original MX, but its basically the same (same weight, same length, same look). It looks cooler, its more fun, and its more like a normal pen. I spun a KT in class once and ppl were like: '"wtf. is that a baton?". So I switched to an MX and ppl are like: "Holy crap that is cool. Teach me!'
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Date: Sun, Sep 7 2008 21:09:41
well I often spin an MX because I like how it looks (also when spun). I dislike the original MX however and prefer signo/g3 tipped MXes because of the better balance.
@logic (OT): yeah people used to do that but oddly - when I wasn't as good people thought it was cool, but nowadays 1/2 of those people think I have no life -
Date: Mon, Sep 8 2008 01:04:22
I spin the MX because I am Korean~
Well seriously because, it is a nice pen to spin and make (has appealing look, low price, durable, and easy modding. Oh and it also looks like a pen as others mentioned above and it is single-sided )
Even though it is unbalanced it has good momentum.
Also my hand and fingers are pretty small, so the MX seems to be the perfect size for me.
plus as nateiskewl said, it helps you to truly learn tricks since it is hard to do certain tricks on the MX than other pens (kt ect...)
especially hard on baks and stuff.
Still working on Ring and Pinky Baks on the mx
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Date: Mon, Sep 8 2008 03:14:27
I spin an MX because I can actually write with it.
Half of the mods that I have I can't write with.
And the other half are MX's and their variations.
That.
And I like that with a traditional MX you can put the cap on the front end of the pen when you write. And you don't have to hold on to the cap.
Also.
It's not a baton (Lookin' at you Dr. KT) -
Date: Mon, Sep 8 2008 03:41:25
i dont really like MX's. it looks great and thats awesome. but i like balanced pens. i also dont see what people hve agains double sided mods. my favorite mod is the namae mod, and it looks like a KT pretty much.
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Date: Mon, Sep 8 2008 03:45:55
good point white fang
personally, i think the mx is a TERRIBLE pen to spin. even after i got use to it (spun nothing but it for a while). i still couldn't learn tricks we'll enought. since it was unbalanced and single sided i was wasting time trying to learn tricks on it. even after i switched to double sided mods, i still can't nail a bunch of tricks on the mx.
why spin it? i dunno.
(im currently finding all my mx and taking it apart for hgg tip.)
but: mx has the look, and (correct me if im wrong) first pen that had insert. so alot of ways to change its look -
Date: Mon, Sep 8 2008 03:57:12QUOTE (000zero0000 @ Sep 7 2008, 08:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>good point white fang
personally, i think the mx is a TERRIBLE pen to spin. even after i got use to it (spun nothing but it for a while). i still couldn't learn tricks we'll enought. since it was unbalanced and single sided i was wasting time trying to learn tricks on it. even after i switched to double sided mods, i still can't nail a bunch of tricks on the mx.
why spin it? i dunno.
(im currently finding all my mx and taking it apart for hgg tip.)
but: mx has the look, and (correct me if im wrong) first pen that had insert. so alot of ways to change its look
Why spin it?
I think it's more of a challenge than being a good spinning pen. I mean, if people came to you and said "can you spin a normal pen?", how would it look if you said "Sorry, I only spin balanced pens" ?
If you can spin an unbalanced pen, it's more likely that you can also spin a balanced one. But if you can only spin a balanced pen, you'll be struggling the day you're given an unbalanced one. If you want to master your tricks, you should be able to do it with anything
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Date: Mon, Sep 8 2008 04:00:48
wasn't it established, from baton twirling, that a slightly off-center mod is better than a perfect balanced one? I remember reading this from kam.
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Date: Mon, Sep 8 2008 04:02:22
The MX is cheap, versitile, doesn't look creepy.
What else, it writes 0 _ o surprising a lot of pen mods these days aren't pens....
The MX provides a challenge, although I disagree with KAM about the spinning an unbalanced pen and a blanced one.
Someone who spens an unbalanced pen, most likely will not be able to spen a blanced pen, or a pen that is balanced differently.
the MX is back heavy, so if you were to spin a pen , which was front heavy, seeing as with the MX you have the cap in the way, it would still be a challenge to spin.
I think spinners who choose one pen, and use that pen, sucha s the MX and develop there skill on it, will also help develop skills for other pens balanced in different ways.
Someone who spins a blanced pen very well and effceiantly, will most likely be able to spin the MX without trouble, after getting used to the weight. =]
Whats more important than balance, however, is weight distribution, the MX, is OK with that aspect, and seeing as the RSVP or a pen like it is readily available for much of the world, why shouldn't it be popular =D!
EDIT:
At zombo's comment.
I beleive that's true, the more balanced I make my pen, the harder it seems it is to spin, because then the pen goes equally far whenever it travels arround a finger, thus making me use the whole pen body to spin, rather than jsut the center part, I find it easier to spin when one side is slightly heavier than the other, although the MX is a little to much for me, one side has a lot of momentum the other side has none at all =\ and you can only spin with part of the pen's body because of the cap... so eh.... -
Date: Mon, Sep 8 2008 04:13:09QUOTE (Kam @ Sep 7 2008, 08:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Why spin it?
I think it's more of a challenge than being a good spinning pen. I mean, if people came to you and said "can you spin a normal pen?", how would it look if you said "Sorry, I only spin balanced pens" ?
If you can spin an unbalanced pen, it's more likely that you can also spin a balanced one. But if you can only spin a balanced pen, you'll be struggling the day you're given an unbalanced one. If you want to master your tricks, you should be able to do it with anything
nono i still spin it (probably one mx left)
just saying that it's not a pen that i would recommend when learning new tricks. use a mx when you "master" tricks/combo and you wanna show off with the pen. otherwise, no.
sidenote: RESPONSE to zombo btw: hmm, now im challenged to find a pen that is slightly unbalanced, msxa is out of the question tho. -
Date: Mon, Sep 8 2008 21:38:55
I spin an MX quite often even tho it's in none of my clips. I like it because it writes and i need that at school, it looks like a pen, it's light and the body feels great.
I can't spin heavy mods where when i do a sonic the pen tries to keep on spinning without me and end of hurting my hand, it's small/compact, a good weight, looks great. What else do you need?
too much momentum isn't that good really, sure you can do a bust 6x easily but it won't look as sexy -
Date: Tue, Sep 9 2008 04:46:18
Style. Theres something about the mx that gives me a unique style thats very visually appealing when I spin it. And it actually looks like a pen.
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Date: Tue, Sep 9 2008 05:52:01QUOTE (pholord @ Sep 8 2008, 09:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Style. Theres something about the mx that gives me a unique style thats very visually appealing when I spin it. And it actually looks like a pen.
well that depends person to person
there are some people that mx doesnt match their style and theyre better off with a diff pen
i think makizar uses an mx(correct me if im wrong) and it doesnt look that great -
Date: Tue, Sep 9 2008 14:30:59
I have to say I agree with Kam here. If you gave Tiger Woods a crappy five dollar golf club, he'd still
beat almost anybody. There would be no competition. If you gave a NASCAR driver a beaten up old
Ford and you had a Italian sports car worth tons of money he would still dominate you. Completely.
And it's the same with pen spinning. It's the spinner, not the pen, as far as I'm concerned. And if you
do want a heavily modded pen, it might as well look like a pen too, and that is what the MX is so good at. -
Date: Tue, Sep 9 2008 20:22:24QUOTE (Shadowclad @ Sep 9 2008, 10:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I have to say I agree with Kam here. If you gave Tiger Woods a crappy five dollar golf club, he'd still
beat almost anybody. There would be no competition. If you gave a NASCAR driver a beaten up old
Ford and you had a Italian sports car worth tons of money he would still dominate you. Completely.
And it's the same with pen spinning. It's the spinner, not the pen, as far as I'm concerned. And if you
do want a heavily modded pen, it might as well look like a pen too, and that is what the MX is so good at.
baaaaaaaad example, clearly in racing sports, the car is at least as important, if not more, than the drivers. A F1 driver can be insanely good, if his ecurie sucks he wont win (one easy example: the car breaks down, you need to forfeit) -
Date: Tue, Sep 9 2008 20:34:34
Proffesionals always choose the best quality tools for there proffession.
HOWEVER!!!!!! this has nothing to do with the subject
As the pens are completley different, your allusion to tigerwoods, would be like having two different clubs, a putter and a driver or soemthing like that, In many cases some tricks ARE easier with an RSVP, and other times a more balanced heavier pen would be the better choice.
There are upsides and downsides to all of them, many better weighted pens, have horrible weight distrubution, or are so heavy you cant do tricks as fast as you would like and acheive the same speed as with an RSVP.
A well made RSVP with a sucky pen spinner no doubt would still be a failure, a horribly shloppy RSVP with a very good pen spinner would be amazing to watch, and obviosuily, better than the well amde MX with the sucky spinner.
A better analogy would be bowling balls, a heavier bowling ball, will knock down more pens, but be harder to control add spin too and acheive high speeds, many proffesional bowlers like heavier balls, but others may choose lighter once fer more control =] -
Date: Tue, Sep 9 2008 23:47:10
Alright, it's clear that my metaphor was a little rough, but I'm glad you got my point
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Date: Wed, Sep 10 2008 01:26:09
contraty, I still don't understand you statement completely, 0 _ o why would tiger woods use a crappy club when he could afford an expensive top of the line club?...
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Date: Wed, Sep 10 2008 08:54:12QUOTE (shoeman6 @ Sep 10 2008, 11:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>contraty, I still don't understand you statement completely, 0 _ o why would tiger woods use a crappy club when he could afford an expensive top of the line club?...
Clearly that was not the point, he was merely implicating that a man like Tiger Woods can pick up a crappy club and be great with that as his tool. Its the tradesman not the tool he uses. -
Date: Wed, Sep 10 2008 14:28:41QUOTE (KurtAB @ Sep 10 2008, 01:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Clearly that was not the point, he was merely implicating that a man like Tiger Woods can pick up a crappy club and be great with that as his tool. Its the tradesman not the tool he uses.
THANK YOU!!!
It is a metaphor. I'm not implying that Tiger Woods competes with a crappy club,
nor that NASCAR drivers compete with crappy cars. The point is that they'd still
be good if they were forced to use them. (Well I understand in terms of raw speed
the car couldn't win but this isn't my point)
Now, here's another question. If Tiger Woods could only compete with the most expensive equipment
or else he was terrible, would that really make him a good golf player? Or is
it the club that is good?
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Date: Wed, Sep 10 2008 16:30:27
It's both, the experience and the handling of the equipment used. For example many people like to spin KT's while other may like to spin MX's. If you give the people with KT's they might not spin as well as before, vice versa with the KT people with MX's. I think it's all about getting used to the pen.
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Date: Wed, Sep 10 2008 19:05:41QUOTE (Shadowclad @ Sep 10 2008, 10:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>THANK YOU!!!
It is a metaphor. I'm not implying that Tiger Woods competes with a crappy club,
nor that NASCAR drivers compete with crappy cars. The point is that they'd still
be good if they were forced to use them. (Well I understand in terms of raw speed
the car couldn't win but this isn't my point)
Now, here's another question. If Tiger Woods could only compete with the most expensive equipment
or else he was terrible, would that really make him a good golf player? Or is
it the club that is good?
What is a crappy club for some , may be the best club for others, like the rsvp mx...
I doubt that if tiger woods had the worst balanced and manufactured club ever he'd win against a rookie golfer with decent skill, the machine does make the person.
If errior was spinning a noodle with marbles tied on the end, compared to eso spinning his rsvp mx (not that eso isn't amazing...) Eso undoubtly would win, because erriors noodle would break, and be very difficult to spin.... -
Date: Wed, Sep 10 2008 22:53:14
uh now we are going to far...
eriror spinning noodles?
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Date: Wed, Sep 10 2008 23:21:59
heres my analogy
You are painting a large canvas and have the choice of using a roller or a brush. Use the roller and youll obviously do a clean job easily. Use the brush and it may not be smooth or clean but it will still get done. However people will respect you more if you take up the challenge and use the brush. People will pay atteion to the finer details like brush strokes. Basically it all comes down to what people think of your work. It doesnt matter if you paint better with the brush or the roller, people will still find the brush more impressive. -
Date: Wed, Sep 10 2008 23:36:48
Good analogy, pholord.
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Date: Thu, Sep 11 2008 02:47:18QUOTE (Aries @ Sep 10 2008, 12:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>It's both, the experience and the handling of the equipment used. For example many people like to spin KT's while other may like to spin MX's. If you give the people with KT's they might not spin as well as before, vice versa with the KT people with MX's. I think it's all about getting used to the pen.
Yeah, I can't spin a KT at all...
My friend is like why the heck can you not spin it?
But I can't
I can spin the MX but not the KT, but it just might be the weight distribution of the KT
I can spin my Dr MJ better than my MX. though...
Maybe I am used to pens with weight towards the middle as well as the ends
So different people like/can spin different pens, and some likes/spins MX and/or others spin/like the KT or any other mods or pens out there, whether it be ballsign, MSXA, or even a "noodle with marbles tied on the end"
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Date: Thu, Sep 11 2008 03:55:53QUOTE (pholord @ Sep 10 2008, 06:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>heres my analogy
You are painting a large canvas and have the choice of using a roller or a brush. Use the roller and youll obviously do a clean job easily. Use the brush and it may not be smooth or clean but it will still get done. However people will respect you more if you take up the challenge and use the brush. People will pay atteion to the finer details like brush strokes. Basically it all comes down to what people think of your work. It doesnt matter if you paint better with the brush or the roller, people will still find the brush more impressive.
hmmm nice analogy...
A brush might not be easier, but a proffesional painter would use it to express himself with greater detail and stuff...
A novice painter, using a brush may cause a horrible menace upon a wall, and then a roller would be more suitable.
But there would be plenty of very good painters who use rollers and are amazing at painting, so I guess your analogy is pretty nice...
...
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Date: Thu, Sep 11 2008 15:11:29
I honestly think it's really more of a proving ground kind of thing. People get a lot more respect/recognition for spinning lighter pens. It's just a given fact, an MX is harder to spin than KT in GENERAL. Not all cases, but that is the general idea. It could be comfortable or they just want to prove themselves as worthy.
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Date: Thu, Sep 11 2008 20:42:04
BUt if you spun a KT fast and furiousily you shud be respected to, like if you used a roller but painted a beautiful painting with intricate details...
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Date: Fri, Sep 12 2008 07:02:21
but noone really spins f-3000 because its light.
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Date: Fri, Sep 12 2008 21:31:58QUOTE (WhiteFang @ Sep 12 2008, 12:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>but noone really spins f-3000 because its light.
no one? some do. occasionally. f3000 is nhk_9's signature pen...
and i saw bonito and key3 spinning it. like once tho. -
Date: Fri, Sep 12 2008 22:51:23
hmmmmmm I spin a bictory a lot, I like it =] , it's not light... =\ iono wut a f3000 is...
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Date: Sat, Sep 13 2008 14:49:04
My opnion on that:
Penspinning is such a strange hardcore "sport" since the best seen spinner is not usually the one who performs the hardest tricks. We can see that for example when we analyze bonkura's combos. He used to perform really easy stuff, and nowadays is considered a god of penspinning.
The same happens with mx. If people preferred hard-to-do stuff rather than beauty than pens like dr. kt would be waaaay more popular, but since that's not what really counts, an mx, that has a classical look and spins in a cute way is that popular. -
Date: Sat, Sep 13 2008 20:20:12QUOTE (SJ. @ Sep 12 2008, 05:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>no one? some do. occasionally. f3000 is nhk_9's signature pen...
and i saw bonito and key3 spinning it. like once tho.
nhk_9's signiture pen is 3000*f not f*3000 -
Date: Sun, Sep 14 2008 02:16:06QUOTE (Jacobä @ Sep 13 2008, 09:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>My opnion on that:
Penspinning is such a strange hardcore "sport" since the best seen spinner is not usually the one who performs the hardest tricks. We can see that for example when we analyze bonkura's combos. He used to perform really easy stuff, and nowadays is considered a god of penspinning.
The same happens with mx. If people preferred hard-to-do stuff rather than beauty than pens like dr. kt would be waaaay more popular, but since that's not what really counts, an mx, that has a classical look and spins in a cute way is that popular.
The hardest tricks, arent always the most aestheticcly appealing. -
Date: Sat, Sep 20 2008 05:10:53
Yes, some of them look like they are jumping around too much especially
with fingerless fingerarounds. Just sonic harmonic is extremely beautiful by itself,
or double charge maybe. -
Date: Sat, Sep 20 2008 09:16:20
the mx is still famous because it is the roots for all single sided mods.
all single sided mods uses the mx concept.
-reversed inktubes
-grips overlapping tips a little
-grips in caps
and people tend to show off that they CAN spin a light,unbalanced mod. -
Date: Sat, Sep 20 2008 14:11:26
use a bictory and spin well but I cant spin well with an rsvp mx - _ -... so wut does that tell you? 0 _ o
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Date: Sat, Sep 20 2008 15:43:35
maybe that bictory looks creepy and is double capped?
MX just looks nice when spun, a Dr.KT is often too big for the hand (excluding me xD) and when you spin a single sided mod the tricks you do look much better (my opinion) -
Date: Sun, Sep 21 2008 01:31:28
i would probably say its personal choice..
just some people prefers to spin unbalanced pens
and others prefers to spin balanced pens..
however, if someone can do both then its obviously better than someone that can only spin either balanced or unbalanced pens.. -
Date: Mon, Oct 13 2008 16:39:35
My Point of View:
Comssa = Balanced, hard to do TA, TA Rev smoothly, bad weight + Grips/Tips fall off most the time.
RSVP MX = Unbalanced, Looks Good, made by KAM, Kinda harder to do Infinity. Smooth Spins because of heavy weight. -
Date: Mon, Oct 13 2008 19:29:06QUOTE (Sakura @ Oct 13 2008, 12:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>My Point of View:
Comssa = Balanced, hard to do TA, TA Rev smoothly, bad weight + Grips/Tips fall off most the time.
RSVP MX = Unbalanced, Looks Good, made by KAM, Kinda harder to do Infinity. Smooth Spins because of heavy weight.
Comssa are not that hard to do TA Harmonic smoothly. Since it is balanced it shouldn't be very difficult. And yes it is suppose to be light pen, so weight could be an issue.
RSVP MX is not that much heavier than a comssa. The weight is just distributed less equally (i.e cap end for an MX is heavier).
And as others had said, it is a matter of personal choice. Some like to spin heavy pens, other light. And each pen has its weight distributed differently.
But this is my point of view so you don't have to agree with it
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Date: Mon, Oct 13 2008 19:31:33QUOTE (Jacobä @ Sep 13 2008, 07:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>My opnion on that:
Penspinning is such a strange hardcore "sport" since the best seen spinner is not usually the one who performs the hardest tricks. We can see that for example when we analyze bonkura's combos. He used to perform really easy stuff, and nowadays is considered a god of penspinning.
The same happens with mx. If people preferred hard-to-do stuff rather than beauty than pens like dr. kt would be waaaay more popular, but since that's not what really counts, an mx, that has a classical look and spins in a cute way is that popular.
He was famous for also being very creative (he did a lot of unique things/tricks) and having a creative and unique style. -
Date: Tue, Oct 14 2008 04:57:07QUOTE (Sakura @ Oct 13 2008, 11:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>My Point of View:
Comssa = Balanced, hard to do TA, TA Rev smoothly, bad weight + Grips/Tips fall off most the time.
RSVP MX = Unbalanced, Looks Good, made by KAM, Kinda harder to do Infinity. Smooth Spins because of heavy weight.
LOL, what kind of comSSa are you using? there's a reason the caps SNAP on...so they dont fall off. Anyways, it has nothing to do which one is made better, its about what makes you seem more impressive as a spinner. What seems more impressive, a bakfall with a comSSa or an MX. Prolly the MX..go figure
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Date: Wed, Oct 15 2008 04:02:20
Umm I'm not absolutely sure but i think he meant the HGG tips and Anyball grips fall off easily, not the caps, although the caps DO fall off rather readily...
I don't think either would be more impressive, if someone enjoys spinning an MX and can spin it better than a comssa and they can do a bakfall that doesn't make them a better spinner, its all just relative to what mod is easier for them to spin. -
Date: Thu, Oct 16 2008 18:22:50
its just like what you said...
"once you get used to it, its good"
yes it is..and you said..
"Isn't any other mods like that?"
and yes, thats true...you also said the mx is...
"Its unbalanced, so its not exactly the best mod for spinning"
that sets it apart from all of those other mods you where talking about.
thats why people spin them than the other mods. its harder, shows more skill and with all of that...its good for spinning once you get used to it.
if you get used to another mod..then yeah its good..but it doesn't show that skill and difficulty as if you did the same thing with an mx.
and also i think its cuz...
-its an old famous mod
-easy to make
-looks sexy and like a pen -
Date: Thu, Oct 23 2008 03:21:30
I think what you're trying to say is why people want it, not spin it.
It's for collection I guess. Cause not many people would wanna spin an unbalanced pen but would still like one for collection. -
Date: Fri, Oct 24 2008 00:18:50
i like the unbalanced - ness. i like the fact that infinitys get a little more momentum when spinning on the grip. i also like that its a pen, not a baton like object
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Date: Tue, Nov 11 2008 13:26:35QUOTE (BeckWreck @ Oct 24 2008, 07:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i like the unbalanced - ness. i like the fact that infinitys get a little more momentum when spinning on the grip. i also like that its a pen, not a baton like object
That Baton like object can still write, so it is LITERALLY a pen. -
Date: Tue, Nov 11 2008 23:42:51
if you walk into a room and start spinning say, a spinz axis just because i hate it, people will comment on your baton twirling skills. if you spin a rsvp mx people will comment on your pen twirling skills. then you can give a long rant about the word twirling.
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Date: Wed, Jan 14 2009 22:24:34
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I do am addicted to the rsvp mx like them...
For me, the MX is being popular because on intrnt, it is the most known mod, and people usually says it's a good mod. that's why I use an mx.
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Date: Sun, Jan 18 2009 20:24:47
Most people who spin RSVP MXs didn't pick the MX after spinning other mods, and being dissatisfied. I think alot of people spin RSVP MXs is because of what you said, it was made by Kam, and he's famous. Whats the first thing you get when you google "pen spinning?" Thats right, Pentrix. It's the website where I learned all the fundimentals, way before I knew about UPSB. Thus, the only real mods I knew about where the Bictory and the MX, V2 and V1.
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Date: Sat, Jan 31 2009 14:19:04
it looks like a pen unlike the kt. it spins good like a normal pen not like the kt.
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Date: Sat, Feb 7 2009 02:11:26
I'd say people spin the mx because it looks cool and its very easy too make the supplies are like 5 mins away from a home.
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Date: Wed, Feb 25 2009 06:32:11QUOTE (HKspinner @ Feb 24 2009, 02:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Cheap and writable, CYLs can't write.
Alot of people have writable CYLS
And I think the reason why its so popular is not only the skill level and such it takes, but also that its super customizable with different grip colors and inserts. I'll see Dr. KTs in the same repeated color designs in videos over and over, but for MX'es, they're always different. -
Date: Wed, Feb 25 2009 23:13:19
I like the MX, cos well.. It was the first real mod I used, and I've just been using it since. I have used other pens but to me I just prefer the weight distribution on the MX. As you said you get used to a pen after you spin it for long enough so I guess that's why I like it so much, cos I used it for quite some time.
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Date: Wed, Feb 25 2009 23:16:42
well mx is pretty cheap in the us and they come in alot of packs and have the clean look
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Date: Sun, Mar 1 2009 18:45:51
I love KT's and hate mx's.
You can still make some mods be able to write. All you need is some modding skills.
Some people come up to me and say, "Hey, I need to borrow a pencil. (they take my KT) Thanks....wtf?! It doesn't write?! What is wrong with you?!?!?" lol -
Date: Sun, Mar 8 2009 18:33:37
Why MX? Why the heck should one spin MX's?
First of all, the MX is a really simple mod. It uses two pens, is customizable due to inserts, whereas some pens can't use inserts. Making an MX write is very simple since all you have to do is make a little hole in the back cap, unlike some other mods. Also, U.S. spinners have extremely easy access to RSVP's, and HGG grips can be subbed very easily, although maybe not the tips. (For example, I put a slit profile grip over my white grip for my MX.)
Secondly, you may complain about the balance. It is very back heavy, but only uses two pens. If you raise the amount to 3 or 4 common pens, you get an MX2, which is more balanced and provides some more momentum. Even further, if you like spinning heavy pens, Kam improved it even further creating an Impact MX! Weighing in at 18 grams, it rivals some heavy mods in weight, with a middle balanced COG.
In my opinion, overall, many people spin this for its simplicity, originality, and just because it looks so darn awesome.
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Date: Mon, Mar 16 2009 04:20:39
The RSVP MX is a little unbalanced but you can easily fix that by putting on an extra hgg tip or another grip on top(maybe an any ball). People like because it looks nice and you can customize it any way you like not to mention it is one of the most popular mod out there. The MX is actually my second mod I've ever made the first was some mod I made with a papermate and a bic. I prefer to spin this because there is not much to get in your way while spinning unlike the comssa and kt.
My friend ZiPH showed me this -
Date: Mon, Mar 30 2009 00:02:19
i think its used by so many because is so popular. and because its not exactly easy to spin with. "if he can spin a mx that well imagine how he'd do with a comssa" is the saying that i think goes around.
also it still writes and looks like a pen -
Date: Fri, Apr 3 2009 01:44:10
Personally, I spin an RSVP MX because they are easy to make, I have easy access to RSVPs, and they are easy to personalize (inserts, changing the balance, etc.)
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Date: Sat, Apr 4 2009 19:51:40
a modded rsvp mx with a nice inlay looks pretty good so people spin rsvp mx also because of visual effects. and as mentioned before, you can get used to spinning mx after some time even if its not evenly balanced.
i got a few mx here but i rarely use them. i just have them because they look nice.
me, i prefer other mods, usually doublecapped, i just like them more. they are more balanced and they are usually lighter and not that heavy. -
Date: Thu, May 21 2009 05:55:43
I dont use it as my main spinning pen but i use one for class and things like that because it looks (somewhat) like a regular pen. And it writes.
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Date: Fri, May 22 2009 01:56:11
the rsvp mx was perfect for my first pen.
and still is excellent for spinning. -
Date: Fri, May 22 2009 02:04:07
I love spinning mx's cuz they make me feel like im a capable spinner... if i can do a double bust with a kt, who cares? =P double with mx? double with... UNMODDED rsvp!?!
i've recently started spinning unmodded rsvps more =P -
Date: Thu, May 28 2009 03:53:33
usually, i spin light and heavy mods at the same time.i spin with my kt and mx pretty all the time. just switch off. but the thing i like about the mx is that its highle customizable like everyone said and also, if you spin an mx, you can spin pretty much anything else, like a normal #2 pencil.
and why people spin an mx? cause its an mx. :] cause there just awesome like that xD -
Date: Thu, May 28 2009 15:13:14
like said before most rsvp mx's are spun because of their easy access but the mod being created by Kam sure adds to the equation
my guess is that every spinner has 1 or 2 mx's lying around and spun them some time in their spinning history. -
Date: Fri, May 29 2009 04:59:37
After spinning a balanced mod, spinning the MX gets really annoying IMO. I can't do a LOT of tricks I can do on, say. a crayola maker mod (i don't own a KT or those uber heavy mods, ._.) but man this MX is killing me. I do like its insert customizability (spl) but I think it could use a little balancing.
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Date: Sat, May 30 2009 02:27:23
for me rsvp mx spinning is probably the most appealing once perfected. thus spinning an mx well makes me feel pretty good about my spinning since many of the spinners back in the day spun them really well, kth, nagi, uriel, chuchon, etc.
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Date: Sat, May 30 2009 03:15:20
theres many things u can do to balanced a mx, or make it close
i hear signo tipped or toro mx are better balanced?
iunno but for some reason, i can only do bakfall on mxs =[ -
Date: Sat, May 30 2009 03:25:14
idk for me.. mx's are meant to be off balance. if they're balanced their reason for being a mx sorta diminishes.. well thats just me though.
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Date: Sat, May 30 2009 13:53:41
Well, I always though that spinning with single sided mods looks better most of the times than spinning double sided mods. and the MX is such a simple, yet so easy to make beautiful mod. I admit I don't really spin HGG tipped MXs (Though think I'll make one, I got inspired
) I still think that it looks beautiful... and for me, beauty and appeal are a quite large aspect of spinning :] -
Date: Sat, May 30 2009 15:50:04
I'm thinking the reason why the MX is popular is because it was one of the first mods ever made (unless my history is wrong...). I'm just guessing, but back then, an MX would probably be better than any normal pen. Seeing that, MX would quickly become popular and a lot of people would start using it.
Eventually, people would make better mods and use those instead, but the MX had grown in so much popularity in that time. So popular that it still hasn't died out today. -
Date: Sat, May 30 2009 22:10:06
I agree. I do not like the MX very much. I do not like the fact that it is back weighted. I prefer to use balanced, double sided mods.
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Date: Fri, Jun 5 2009 00:51:57
Well, the MX is hella customizable. Choices of grips, tips, and hell, even caps.
And it looks like a normal pen.
And is easy to make. -
Date: Fri, Jun 5 2009 01:16:09
I have to agree with mhig. The only reason I will spin an mx is the fact that the most amazing spinners in the world do so well with them. They spin amazing and still use an unbalanced pen. If I am able to spin an mx well I say to myself wow that's awesome and I feel like a pro^^.
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Date: Sat, Jun 6 2009 02:06:01
The reasons i find mx a good pen is
1) it looks amazing with an insert
2) Kam made it
3) it looks like a pen so people dont ask you what on earth are u writing with
4) it looks good overall
I also found how it is unbalanced really annoying so i used a uniball signo grip, i guess that helped -
Date: Sat, Jun 6 2009 03:01:47QUOTE (comicpen @ Jun 5 2009, 10:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>3) it looks like a pen so people dont ask you what on earth are u writing with
The problem is that it looks like you're writing from the wrong side of the pen, so people wonder why the heck your pen is upside down.
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Date: Sat, Jun 6 2009 03:02:56QUOTE (lookieitsgrass @ Jun 5 2009, 11:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The problem is that it looks like you're writing from the wrong side of the pen, so people wonder why the heck your pen is upside down.
thats why you cover the tip-side with the cap while you write.. -
Date: Sat, Jun 6 2009 03:07:16QUOTE (meiDay @ Jun 5 2009, 11:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>thats why you cover the tip-side with the cap while you write..
Oh...my RSVP cap doesn't fit over the grip I use, so I can't do that. But doesn't the pen still look upside down even with the cap on?