UPSB v3
Approved Tutorials / Ballsign Mod
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Date: Sun, Sep 23 2007 12:57:53
For those who don't know how to make it: here you go. If you don't understand, you can ask questions in this thread.
Ballsign tutorial from the Wiki
For those who already know how to make it, don't you just wuv the mod? <3 Anyways, I've read about people who used Dr Grip grip instead of Super Grip grip, which would mean you had Dr Grip grip over Dr Grip grip. I thought this sounded like madness, and secretly laughed at them. Then I tried it out, and it's awesome really. There's not much difference to using Super Grip grip, atleast not spin-wise. It's a little heavier. The grips don't take on the yellowish color Super Grip grips get after a while though, and the Dr Grip grip sections stay attached to the big part of Dr Grip grip easier. Now, there's a problem in that the big section of Dr. Grip grip tends to fall of now and then, but that can easily be attended to by making those pieces a little longer. NOW DISCUSS! Do you have Super Grip grips or Dr Grip grips on the Ballsign? Here is a picture of the one I spin most, I also have an all purple one, an all black and a pink/black.
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Date: Sun, Sep 23 2007 13:02:05
ah... i don't use Dr Grip grips, but just super grip grips by themselves.
neither do i use regular ballsign caps. i use sun-star twinart caps instead. it looks better to me.
affects my spinning mood and all.
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Date: Sun, Sep 23 2007 13:22:13
I'll still use super grip because in my eyes it looks better...
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Date: Sun, Sep 23 2007 13:27:22
So you spin a pen that is not even a Ballsign Mod?
Interesting...
EDIT: that was @ Nova
@ patrick: it only annoys me so much that they turn yellowish after a while ): -
Date: Sun, Sep 23 2007 18:06:23
Ballsign has become too freaking short for me.
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Date: Sun, Sep 23 2007 18:15:21
I have the same colour scheme for mine, Sfsr.
I have Dr. Grip over SUPER GRIP; wanna keep it original and all.
And about how long does it take till the grips yellow out? Two weeks so far, nothing noticeable. -
Date: Sun, Sep 23 2007 19:45:43
I think it will only start to be noticable if u put it in ur pencil case, or any other place that is reletevly dirty.
i use a blue laknok grip cuz i found it on the ground and jacked the grip. it doesn't seem much of a difference tho... and it doesn't get dirty^^ -
Date: Sun, Sep 23 2007 19:57:06
I don't like this mod. Too light, too small, too skinny, no ink.
I had made my own version with a lot more weight and an ink tube, but it was still too skinny and too small. -
Date: Sun, Sep 23 2007 20:29:06
I love this mod forreals. I use g2 grips to replace the supergrips. Buht I guess I'll try putting a dr grip on another dr grip.
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Date: Sun, Sep 23 2007 20:43:58
@sfsr: it annyos me, that my dr.grip grip isn't transparent anymore... maybe I shpuld try to clean them
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Date: Mon, Sep 24 2007 09:11:17QUOTE (Sfsr @ Sep 23 2007, 08:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>So you spin a pen that is not even a Ballsign Mod?
Interesting...
EDIT: that was @ Nova
@ patrick: it only annoys me so much that they turn yellowish after a while ):
but it uses a ballsign body... so it IS a ballsign mod techinically.
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Date: Mon, Sep 24 2007 11:33:02
hehe this might be the stupidest question youll ever face...is there like a proper tutorial for bonkura's ballsign mod cause i want to know the specific length or something of the grips something like that...I tried searching but didnt really find any so far...
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Date: Mon, Sep 24 2007 15:24:55
According to this entry in the PenSpinning Blog, the Ballsign Mod is 17.5cm long.
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Date: Mon, Sep 24 2007 18:09:17
where should i cut the super grip grip?
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Date: Tue, Sep 25 2007 03:47:55QUOTE (krash @ Sep 24 2007, 11:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>where should i cut the super grip grip?
is there any dr. grip substitute?
I can say its based on perspective, if u like it longer than have a longer grip. My advice experiment until u like the amount of grip on the side of the pen. I cut between 5cm-1cm. Welll yea...
Good luck and have fun
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Date: Tue, Sep 25 2007 04:54:16
I've slightely changed the ballsign mod which enables it to be able to write on both sides
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Date: Wed, Sep 26 2007 06:32:16
During that video on how to make the Ballsign mod, when he takes out the point and puts in an insert, is that insert like metal or just paper? Where do I get an insert to put in it, or should I leave the point inside it?
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Date: Wed, Sep 26 2007 06:36:07
That "point" is the inktube. It's recommended you take it out so the pen is actually balanced and also so you can use an insert. The insert is made out of paper and people usually make the insert themselves or find ones that other people have made.
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Date: Wed, Sep 26 2007 06:36:17
Has anyone ever posted the dimensions for the Ballsign body? I don't remember ever seeing any.
Edit: wait, the recently posted insert by nateiskewl is probably the correct size.
Edit 2: no, it's an MX-sized insert.
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Date: Wed, Sep 26 2007 06:44:59
Anyone know where I can get some good Ballsign inserts?
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Date: Wed, Sep 26 2007 06:47:39
The majority-- if not all of inserts online are for MXs, so it's a bit hard to find some fit for a Ballsign. Right now, I'm just using regular white paper
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Date: Wed, Sep 26 2007 06:49:28
What are the dimensions of your white paper?
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Date: Wed, Sep 26 2007 06:57:29
Making me get up and go get it.
; Hold on.
12.5 cm long, 3 cm wide.
It sticks out a bit just above where the opening of the barrel is because I found if I made it any shorter, it just flims around inside. Of course it might be just me.
The actual barrel for where the insert can fit in (with the back plug still in) is actually 12 - 12.1 cm from what I measure.
EDIT: Forgot to mention only 10.7 cm becomes visible. -
Date: Thu, Sep 27 2007 02:53:43
QUESTION!
whats the wieght and size and thinkness of a ballsign compared to a bictory without grips or tips?
I'm still going to buy and make one, i just need to know!
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Date: Thu, Sep 27 2007 08:02:12
Longer, heavier, thicker. If I remember correctly, that is. I don't have both pens with me right now
@ the person who asked a question about what part of the super grip you should use: there is a section completely free of "sections" (8D), which is a few CMs long. I use that, and it works fine.
@ Patrick: I had the SG grips on for half a year at least, and had the pen loose in my bag quite a lot. If you take care of it, they might not turn yellow at all though. -
Date: Fri, Sep 28 2007 05:36:13
From PenWish I can buy 2 Dr. Grip GRIPS for both sides of the Ballsign. I can buy 2 Sakura Ballsign pens, 1 for the body and cap, and the other for the cap.
Where do I get the Super Grip that you put on each end before you put on the Dr. Grips?
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Date: Fri, Sep 28 2007 05:38:38
You can find supergrips at penwish also. And yes you break the clips off and cut the little bumps off the cap as well.
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Date: Fri, Sep 28 2007 05:39:30
There was already a Ballsign Mod thread. There was no need to make a new thread for questions about the mod parts. Threads merged.
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Date: Fri, Sep 28 2007 05:50:30
Do I have to buy 2 of the Super Grip Pens?
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Date: Fri, Sep 28 2007 07:04:15
Well if you want each side perfectly symmetrical you do...if you dont care all that much then you can just use 1 supergrip.
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Date: Mon, Oct 1 2007 13:19:44
Do you really cut of the little bumps on the caps in the original mod, K4S?
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Date: Sat, Oct 6 2007 21:36:47
does anyone know what stores sell gellyrolls?
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Date: Sat, Oct 6 2007 21:46:26
In the USA...
Micheal's arts & crafts
Utrecht art supplies
Jo-ann quiltings and stuff (maybe?) -
Date: Sat, Oct 6 2007 21:59:41
alright. thanks.
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Date: Sun, Oct 7 2007 07:26:57
did u get the transparent supergrip from a supergrip pacer or pen?
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Date: Sun, Oct 7 2007 07:33:49
the supergrip is from a pencil i believe and the gr.grip grip is from the version where there is no clip on the body
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Date: Wed, Oct 31 2007 23:59:57
yay i just got 10 gelly rolls today
anyways....i was wonderin what other clear grips i could use other than super grip cuz i cant get em. i tried dr grip over dr grip but i dont like the look... -
Date: Thu, Nov 1 2007 10:14:47
Firstly, @ yam: the SuperGrip comes in many forms, but I think it's only the regular pen that has the transparent grip you need. There are also many other Pilot pens that have a grip that is very like it and also transparent, I think one of them is called "Pilot 2020" or something. The Dr Grip grip can be from any Dr Grip pen that has a "fat" grip. Thus, no NeoDr Grip with a thin grip over a colored one. Only the old school with an all transparent grip.
Secondly, @ Radiance: how Dr Grip over Dr Grip grip looks depends a lot on how you attach the grips, take my pen in the first post as an example; it's no more ugly than a regular Ballsign. Other than Super Grip grips, there's the "Pilot 2020" (or whatever it's called) which I mentioned earlier, and some other pens that have G-2/Super Grip look transparent grips. Just keep an eye open the next time when you're in a stationary and see if you can find a pen that has a grip that looks like G-2/Super Grip grip but is transparent (since basically all retractable Pilot pens use that grip; some of them have to be transparent). -
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 00:45:37
well i went lookin for pens today, and bought these Bic Z4 brite liners that had clear grips, and they work for a perferct replacement for super grips. probably not as thick as the super grips, but it still works
EDIT: i'll show some pics of ballsigns i made -
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 00:58:51
Are these Over sea available only pens?
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Date: Sat, Nov 3 2007 23:47:38QUOTE (sketching @ Oct 6 2007, 02:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Jo-ann quiltings and stuff (maybe?)
i can confirm that jo -ann carries them.
I just bought two and i DO love this mod. It might just replace my beloved mx. -
Date: Mon, Dec 3 2007 02:00:17
i made a ballsign twist =D.. Ill come out with a tut if you guys cant figure it out through this http://z15.invisionfree.com/UCPSB/index.php?showtopic=8212
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Date: Tue, Dec 4 2007 17:31:05
I couldn't get my hands on any supergrips, so I put some anyball/profile sections on both ends with a section of Dr. Grip grip on the ends. Mine don't hang over the edges because they kept sliding off.
- I like using this mod while in class because if it drops to the table, it doesn't make much noise at all. Definetely not like the noise an rsvp makes when it falls....
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Date: Wed, Dec 5 2007 08:44:40QUOTE (Outlander @ Dec 4 2007, 06:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I couldn't get my hands on any supergrips, so I put some anyball/profile sections on both ends with a section of Dr. Grip grip on the ends. Mine don't hang over the edges because they kept sliding off.
http://a585.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/image...4f7a0f0a7c0.jpg
http://a823.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/image...a2b453a587e.jpg
Pretty neat looking though =D
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Date: Fri, Dec 7 2007 06:10:11
there are 2 different types of grips in canada/us, on slightly tinted and slipperier
the other is clear with more grip
personally, i think both work -
Date: Fri, Dec 7 2007 08:59:24
hey all, semi new spinner here...anyways was lookin through this thread and the ballsign mod caught my eye...is there any other grips from pilot that will fit just like the supergrip? i been trying to find a store down here in hawaii that sells them but no luck so far =[
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Date: Sat, Dec 8 2007 22:30:59
Do you need to take the back cap off?
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Date: Sat, Dec 8 2007 22:38:51
Ok, I have all the parts to the ballsign mod.
Few quick questions:
How much do you need to cut from the SUPER GRIP?
How much do you need to cut from the Dr. GRIP?
Does the grips stick out?
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Date: Sat, Dec 8 2007 23:00:28
about 1.7 Cm Super Grip grip and let half of it extend past the caps. add a bit more than 0.5 Cm Dr. Grip grip over the Super Grip grip sticking out.
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Date: Sun, Dec 9 2007 01:15:07
Ok, thank you very much.
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Date: Sun, Dec 9 2007 02:41:57
Hm...
Back again. So:
How long is it supposed to be when completed?
How do you get the writing off the barrel?
Thanks. -
Date: Sun, Dec 9 2007 02:47:09
length: 17.5cm
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Date: Sun, Dec 9 2007 02:47:29
1.How long is it supposed to be when completed?
It's supposed to be 17.5 cm long...if my memory serves me right....and hey...I have my own ballsign mods
2.How do you get the writing off the barrel?
You could use acetone
EDIT:sketching was first -
Date: Sun, Dec 9 2007 03:17:46
wats acetone?
and for some reason, mine is 18.5cm long, but my super grips are 1.7
any reasons why?
I'm using Aqualips btw -
Date: Sun, Dec 9 2007 03:29:41
acetone = nail polish remover
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Date: Sun, Dec 9 2007 03:30:46
mine used to be like that but...what I do is..when you put the grip in you will see like uh....if the cap is blue it will look like it's wet on the grip...you put it in till the "wet" part is halfway the grip...
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Date: Sun, Dec 9 2007 03:48:31
kk ty everyone
but i dun have nail polish remover, any other strategies??? -
Date: Sun, Dec 9 2007 03:51:32
Am i suppose to take the back cap off!
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Date: Sun, Dec 9 2007 03:52:16
yes
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Date: Sun, Dec 9 2007 03:54:23
Just like a bic?
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Date: Sun, Dec 9 2007 04:13:55
with my version you don't need to remove the back cap..
you can use chopsticks/stick to get it out...or your teeth
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Date: Sun, Dec 9 2007 04:45:31QUOTE (LotuCowGod @ Dec 8 2007, 09:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>How do you get the writing off the barrel?
I got the writings off of one of my ballsigns by using a eraser. NOTE - If you're going to use an eraser, make sure it is a hard eraser, because harder erasers work better (I used a really hard one from a dollar store).
It just takes a while. Go watch TV while you do it. -
Date: Sun, Dec 9 2007 05:23:39
lol kk ty
THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO HELPED ME OUT TODAY~~ -
Date: Sun, Dec 9 2007 05:49:42
I think Ballsign body not balance It will problem and lengh is short.
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Date: Sat, Dec 29 2007 23:28:29
1. Are you suppose to cut off the little bumps on the ballsign caps? i know your suppose to cut off the clips but the bumps?
2. What part of the super grip grip are you suppose to cut off? like the weird cell part are the smooth part thing?
3. Are the grip sizes for the Dr grip grip on a ballsign mod, or actually all the grips on the mod usually personal preference? cause i don't want to make a mistake and cut my grips too short or something then making them useless.
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sketching -
Date: Sat, Dec 29 2007 23:29:28
I don't think you're supposed to cut off the bumps, just the clip.
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Date: Sat, Dec 29 2007 23:56:58
okay, thanks k2thez.
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Date: Sun, Dec 30 2007 19:49:59QUOTE (ufotofu906 @ Dec 30 2007, 12:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>1. Are you suppose to cut off the little bumps on the ballsign caps? i know your suppose to cut off the clips but the bumps?
2. What part of the super grip grip are you suppose to cut off? like the weird cell part are the smooth part thing?
3. Are the grip sizes for the Dr grip grip on a ballsign mod, or actually all the grips on the mod usually personal preference? cause i don't want to make a mistake and cut my grips too short or something then making them useless.
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sketching
Imo you're not supposed to cut off the bumps, some people do so anyways though. I like using the smooth part of the Super Grip grip since it looks.. smoother? About 1.7 cm SG grip and 0.5-0.7 cm Dr.G grip should do the job, but since there aren't really any "official" measures it's mostly personal preference. -
Date: Mon, Dec 31 2007 20:50:39
Does anyone know if the PenWish pre-made mods are better than the ones you make yourself?
Cause it's cheaper pre-made... but I heard they didn't put enough grip on... -
Date: Mon, Dec 31 2007 22:20:46QUOTE (PSingvideogamer @ Dec 31 2007, 03:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Does anyone know if the PenWish pre-made mods are better than the ones you make yourself?
Cause it's cheaper pre-made... but I heard they didn't put enough grip on...
This is probably in the wrong thread.... but, the only mod I've ordered premade from penwish as a retractable mx, so amount of grip wasnt really a problem. And ballsign mod is easy enough to make, if you're worried, order the dr.grip grips lone from penwish (mod parts section) and do it yourself
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Date: Mon, Dec 31 2007 22:28:57
I ordered a Ballsign mod from Penwish a few days ago.
Mine has around 1cm of Supergrip grip and a little less then 0.5cm of Dr.grip grip on each end.
So its basicly a ring of Dr.Grip grip which IMO doesnt help out with Infinites by too much.
But nice insert and I didnt buy it to spin anyways, I think its WAY too light. Go figure.. -
Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 02:43:41
lol i made a little edit on the ballsign mod i put the 2 ink tubes inside the barrel
Spoiler:
i just need the grips and im done
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No need for a seperate topic on this, it's an alteration to the Ballsign Mod.
sketching -
Date: Wed, Mar 12 2008 22:24:31
1. too hard to do, in my opinion
2. people like inserts :/ -
Date: Thu, Mar 13 2008 03:07:41
Is there a special way to get the barcode and writting off the barrel or is it the same (with an eraser)?
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Date: Thu, Mar 13 2008 03:58:21
using an eraser will work if thats what you're asking
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Date: Thu, Mar 13 2008 04:34:06
Are you sure? because ive been trying to get it off with erasers and its not even fading... HELP!!!
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Date: Thu, Mar 13 2008 04:47:11
well i use a kitchen knife but it really damages the barrel
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Date: Thu, Mar 13 2008 05:01:55
yea, thats what i do on bictories and black comssas
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Date: Thu, Mar 13 2008 05:09:37
did you try it on the ballsign?
PS text on comssas pwn... -
Date: Thu, Mar 13 2008 08:53:15
Moderate amounts of acetone combined with rubbing an eraser should work, that's how I do it atleast. Otherwise you could try the rubbing folded paper method, works great for other prints (like the one on the M&M pens) but I haven't tried it on Ballsigns.
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Date: Thu, Mar 13 2008 13:35:57
where can i get acetone?
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Date: Thu, Mar 13 2008 14:12:31
Use nail polish remover. I'm pretty sure your mother/sister had some.
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Date: Thu, Mar 13 2008 22:40:08
Howd you know i had a mom and a sister?!?!?! lol jk...
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Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 20:48:38
Ballsign mod... The best mod :3. Its very light, so spinning with it need pretty much skills, so its good for beginners just like me
I know that learning tricks with is harder, but it's based only in a spinner skills and the mod doesn't "help" the spinner. Gratz for you, Bonkura. -
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 00:34:30
instead of ballisigns, i use sakura gelly rollers =)
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Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 00:38:10QUOTE (Boshi @ Mar 23 2008, 04:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>instead of ballisigns, i use sakura gelly rollers =)
So do alot of other people..lol -
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 01:28:19QUOTE (Boshi @ Mar 23 2008, 08:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>instead of ballisigns, i use sakura gelly rollers =)
Yeah, they're the same thing. -
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 03:44:47
i like this mod.. ish
sometimes it's too light and too skinny though -
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 06:26:58
i like this mod when its signo tipped
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Date: Tue, Mar 25 2008 22:24:36QUOTE (Se7en @ Mar 24 2008, 02:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i like this mod when its signo tipped
Lol!
Does anyone know how heavy is it when it's signo tipped?
Just for references. -
Date: Tue, Apr 8 2008 18:49:16
Hi! Anyone know, where can I get insert like in Ballsign on penwish (red - blue Ballsign on Penwish)?
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Date: Wed, Apr 9 2008 14:23:33
oh, dude! I just realized that I had two gelly rollers. I got 3 a while back for the tube, but I didn't realize I could make
this mod
Edit:Pieniek I think you could find some colorful wrapping paper and cut out a right sized piece. -
Date: Wed, Apr 9 2008 17:05:21
servantofGod: I know, but I want to get exactly the same insert. I like it
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Date: Wed, Apr 9 2008 17:58:12QUOTE (Pieniek @ Apr 9 2008, 12:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>servantofGod: I know, but I want to get exactly the same insert. I like it
I don't see that insert here. You could buy the mod from penwish to get it
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Date: Thu, Apr 10 2008 00:30:55
Lol, i jus found some random grips to replace the Dr. Grips, seeing as they are kinda expensive. Also, i added some tips, cus tips are always kool.
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Date: Thu, Apr 10 2008 08:17:43
how long is it?
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Date: Thu, Apr 10 2008 22:39:33
hi there, i was just wondering if the supergrip used in this mod was this one
if so i have a pencil i use that has pretty much the same grip
i just want to confirm if they are the same and also how do i put on the grips for the ballsign mod including the dr.grip grip?? -
Date: Thu, Apr 10 2008 22:51:21
They look the same. The grip should look like a clear G2.
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Date: Thu, Apr 10 2008 23:54:34QUOTE (soulsonic @ Apr 10 2008, 05:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>how do i put on the grips for the ballsign mod including the dr.grip grip??
The way I do it is take about the equivalent of half of a super grip (I use all Dr. Grip grip) and push it all the way onto the cap. Then you take a small strip of Dr. Grip grip and put it over the Super Grip grip. After that you pull it off of the cap about half way or however much you want so it goes past the end of the cap. -
Date: Thu, Apr 10 2008 23:59:40
alot of pilot pens have the same kind of grip ('g2 grip'). pilot 20/20 also has clear g2 grip
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Date: Fri, Apr 11 2008 01:40:54
no it doesn't
the 2020 has a grip with lines all the way up the grip
google it if u wanna see -
Date: Sun, Apr 27 2008 00:58:38
@sfsr
did you buy the mod from penwish to get the insert?
if not y don't u post it -
Date: Tue, Apr 29 2008 02:21:22
i super glued hgg tips onto both ends to add just a little more weight, spins quite nicely
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Date: Tue, Apr 29 2008 02:33:29QUOTE (totEn @ Apr 28 2008, 06:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i super glued hgg tips onto both ends to add just a little more weight, spins quite nicely
just stick signo tips inside the supergrips...
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Date: Tue, Apr 29 2008 09:19:43QUOTE (benjamin0s @ Apr 27 2008, 02:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>@sfsr
did you buy the mod from penwish to get the insert?
if not y don't u post it
It's just the Rasen insert recolored, and is even uploaded to the wiki!
http://www.upsb.info/wiki/index.php/Image:...reen-Orange.png
I'll put it in the first post too. -
Date: Tue, Apr 29 2008 17:17:06QUOTE (Guitrum @ Apr 28 2008, 08:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>just stick signo tips inside the supergrips...
they stay in place and add momentum and length...
they do, and i tryed that aswell; however, imo it adds too much weight, completely losing the ballsign feel, which is why i went with hgg tips instead -
Date: Wed, Apr 30 2008 06:29:27
my ballsign mod is quite different...i didnt use any dr grip...just supergrip...cuz i feel that its hard to measure 0.5cm from dr grip and its hard to make it straight with scissors....so i just put 3 lines of super grip over the super grip...and also i used super grip cuz there are no dr grip here in Philippines
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Date: Sun, May 11 2008 07:35:29
I'm making a ballsign mod now. I have a question, if you want a symmetrical one, you would need 2 Dr. Grip grips right? Which part of the grip do you cut, the side nearer to the tip or the other side that is not?
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Date: Sun, May 11 2008 14:10:35QUOTE (Vile.47 @ May 11 2008, 02:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I'm making a ballsign mod now. I have a question, if you want a symmetrical one, you would need 2 Dr. Grip grips right? Which part of the grip do you cut, the side nearer to the tip or the other side that is not?
If you want it symmetrical you need 2 super grips. If you want the Dr. Grips symmetrical you should cut it near the middle where it's the same width. -
Date: Tue, May 13 2008 10:15:23QUOTE (Vile.47 @ May 11 2008, 03:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I'm making a ballsign mod now. I have a question, if you want a symmetrical one, you would need 2 Dr. Grip grips right? Which part of the grip do you cut, the side nearer to the tip or the other side that is not?
Hehe... Same gonna do one now but just asking, can a g2 grip replace the super grip grip? Looks very cool too! R.I.P Bonkura! -
Date: Tue, May 13 2008 10:52:26
Of course you can, but it wont look nice. Use either the Pilot 2020 mech pencil grip or the other transparent grip that comes from the other pilot mechanical pencil(Super Grip)?
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Date: Wed, May 14 2008 09:45:45
Its color eno... My mother has some of these mech pencils so im gonna use it instead of g2 already...
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Date: Wed, May 14 2008 09:54:31
Grips from the following pens are close enough to identical to the semi-transparent Super Grip grips:
- Pilot Color Eno
- Pilot 2020
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Date: Wed, May 28 2008 02:08:07
lol this may sound really odd but i added like screws into the caps and it made it about 8 grams heavier.
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Date: Wed, Jul 16 2008 00:23:12
can I use pilot g2 grips and dr.grip COG for the ballsign mod?
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Date: Wed, Jul 16 2008 02:32:44
sure
you can use whatever you want
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Date: Wed, Jul 16 2008 02:58:42
dispencer might be on to something with the screw thing, but does that interfere with inserts?
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Date: Wed, Jul 16 2008 03:30:31
you can also just put ball bearings in the caps
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Date: Fri, Jul 18 2008 06:35:14QUOTE (Lazyspin @ Sep 25 2007, 12:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I've slightely changed the ballsign mod which enables it to be able to write on both sides
pretty cool if anyone wants to know =\
ya i want to knoe, thx -
Date: Sun, Jul 20 2008 11:31:03
Did we have a list anywhere of pens that are just like the Ballsign?
- Ballsign
- Soufflé
- Gellyroll
- Aqualip
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Date: Sun, Jul 20 2008 14:14:39
wwooww... for my ballsign i did something different than put grips or metal tips on my ballsign.
i took the idea from the grip aviaire mod and i put a paintbrush in my ballsign.
i dont think everybody can do this... i was jus bored at home and i found a paintbrush.
i was wondering can this fit in my ballsign... and it did! also i put it in there cuz i have no more grips.
one more thing i might post a pic of my ballsign to show yall wat i did.
Last thing. For my ballsign. I dont plan on making an insert. jus an outsert. -
Date: Sun, Jul 20 2008 17:43:39QUOTE (Sfsr @ Jul 20 2008, 03:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Did we have a list anywhere of pens that are just like the Ballsign?
- Ballsign
- Soufflé
- Gellyroll
- Aqualip
Those are the ones I can think of right now.
I saw some hello kitty ones and sum other kind when i went to this weird stinky place... -
Date: Sun, Jul 20 2008 20:54:49QUOTE (Sfsr @ Jul 20 2008, 04:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Did we have a list anywhere of pens that are just like the Ballsign?
- Ballsign
- Soufflé
- Gellyroll
- Aqualip
Those are the ones I can think of right now.
Theres also this one called the Luxué. -
Date: Mon, Jul 21 2008 03:58:53
There's some listed on the Ballsign page on the wiki.
Ballsign -
Date: Mon, Jul 28 2008 04:03:27
Is the Ballsign COG=COP cuz Clyde says its not
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Date: Mon, Jul 28 2008 07:19:00
well the barrel isn't straight so if you're sensitive to it, it's not
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Date: Sun, Aug 3 2008 08:12:00
How about try puting Super Grip over Super Grip??? haha.. dont know if anyone tried that before....
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Date: Sun, Aug 10 2008 07:50:50
Hey is it possible to put a outsert over the ballsign body?
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Date: Sun, Aug 10 2008 08:53:35
Yep, it's just that the outsert is probably gonna need to be resized.
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Date: Sun, Aug 10 2008 13:30:07
But isn't the pen body not straight?
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Date: Sun, Aug 10 2008 17:53:15
to light "/
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Date: Sun, Aug 10 2008 19:08:01QUOTE (BloorA @ Aug 10 2008, 03:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>But isn't the pen body not straight?
Correct, but Dong-a Comssa aren't perfectly straight either. It would work, but you'd have to adjust the graphics so they fit (if you want it seamless that is). -
Date: Sun, Aug 10 2008 19:12:04
Just as a comment of mine, I would not suggest outserting a light mod like a Ballsign. The feel while spinning will just be terrible. Well for me it is.
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Date: Mon, Aug 11 2008 02:05:19
nice
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Date: Mon, Aug 11 2008 02:58:29
Ah. Thanks.
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Date: Mon, Aug 11 2008 19:17:28
wait i dont get this so do i get 2 or 1 super grips because some tutorials say two some say one
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Date: Mon, Aug 11 2008 19:41:42
I think this question has been answered a couple of times already: if you want a perfect symmetrical look you would need two so you can get the same looking part from the grips, but if you don't really care you can just cut one grip in two.
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Date: Fri, Aug 15 2008 19:02:42
im just saying i think its a waste of dr.grips
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Date: Fri, Aug 15 2008 21:40:47QUOTE (devilysin @ Aug 15 2008, 12:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>im just saying i think its a waste of dr.grips
its not really a waste, considering how much you use. for the authentic one, it uses about 2 or 3 cm of Dr Grip. the Dr grip is mainly for a bit of weight. -
Date: Mon, Aug 18 2008 01:18:55
Any idea how to remove the writing and the barcode on the side of the barrel?
I've tried rubbing it off like an RSVP and it didnt work. I put scotch tape on, rubbed the tape on very heard, left it for a few hours and then peeled it off hard and quickly and it still didnt work.
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Date: Mon, Aug 18 2008 01:47:40
use an eraser and rub with it really hard on the text. it should come off easily
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Date: Mon, Aug 18 2008 01:47:50
I use coffee filters to rub off the barcode and name... I use the same method for making white comssas >_>
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Date: Sun, Aug 31 2008 20:08:54
I don't have ballsign, so I just made a bictory the same way as a ballsign. How does that compare to the spinnability, if that's a word, of a ballsign? It spins much better than I thought...
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Date: Sun, Aug 31 2008 20:12:35
A ballsign has a lot more spinnability than a bictory in my own opinion. I also like the feel of the ballsign barrel a lot more.
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Date: Mon, Sep 1 2008 03:01:46
Hm.. cool thanks. I finally managed to rub it off.
Does your ballsign barrel feel different at different times? Mine feels very smooth sometimes and I cant get a good hold of it. It just slips through my fingers. At other times, the barrel feels good. Right now, it's feeling like densely packed wet paper..
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Date: Tue, Sep 2 2008 20:35:26QUOTE (Missle_Z @ Aug 31 2008, 09:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>A ballsign has a lot more spinnability than a bictory in my own opinion. I also like the feel of the ballsign barrel a lot more.
Cool cheers, I might get me one of those... green of course, for Bonky
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Date: Mon, Sep 29 2008 06:41:19
Has anyone done this before?
I thought it was too light, so I put the inktube back in and then, to balance it out, I shoved an HGG tip into the cap on the back (it doesn't rattle). -
Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 07:08:06
well i Put Jap Dr.grip Grip over G-spec grip.and yes.
i put the inktube.(Not because for weight)....
It was for Retractablilty -
Date: Sat, Nov 1 2008 01:53:16
I'm trying a Dr. Grip over Dr. Grip, and the big piece doesn't stick to the ballsign cap real well. Should I glue it on or just put some tape around the ballsign cap? I am a modding noob, if you couldn't tell.
Thanks in advance.
Edit: Nevermind, I just went with the Supergrip grips instead and it's working fine. -
Date: Mon, Nov 3 2008 11:32:41
original ball sign mod is green-green ?
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Date: Mon, Nov 3 2008 16:08:37
Color doesn't really matter. I have no idea what colors bonkura (?) first introduced, but he's been known to spin with dark-green on both ends. In the video-tutorial he made for the ballsign mod, he used dark-green on one side and orange on the other though.
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Date: Mon, Nov 3 2008 16:15:17
Well in JapEn 1st he used a blue grip-less ballsign, maybe that's the original color?
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Date: Mon, Nov 3 2008 16:21:02
Blue..?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kyoNFD702s
I'd say green. -
Date: Mon, Nov 3 2008 16:29:43QUOTE (Sfsr @ Nov 3 2008, 08:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Huh I must be thinking of another video oh well. -
Date: Wed, Nov 12 2008 17:12:25
origanal is green green
but penwish says skyblue-orange
on my ballsign i have g2 grip and dr grip -
Date: Thu, Nov 20 2008 01:12:21
Mmmhmmm, Do you guys think it'll work if I only have sailer gels to put on the ballsign caps?
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Date: Thu, Nov 20 2008 01:13:10QUOTE (Soulreaper @ Nov 19 2008, 05:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Mmmhmmm, Do you guys think it'll work if I only have sailer gels to put on the ballsign caps?
It'll work, but it'll be really light. -
Date: Mon, Jan 5 2009 00:12:49
Do you have to take the backplug out?
And if so, what would be the best way to do it?
EDIT: Ok, I was able to take it out, wasn't that hard. I put a DR GRIP shaker metal stick into the body and pushed with a hgg ink tube.
Greetings,
Danny -
Date: Fri, Jan 9 2009 23:33:52
this mod works really well I just started pen spinning yesterday and I realized I had a ballsign (gelly roll) and two g2 pens I could take the grips off of. so today I made the pen and I love it it's very well ballanced thanks for posting this mod.
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Date: Wed, Jan 21 2009 05:58:21
lol
i just found out that a Daiso in mall in my town sells sakura aqualips and gelly rolls XD
yay -
Date: Wed, Jan 21 2009 06:09:56
to take out the backplug, take a pair of wire cutters and slightly apply pressure [but don't actually cut] on the area between the backplug and the body, then pull off the backplug.
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Date: Tue, Jan 27 2009 17:01:57QUOTE (Lazyspin @ Sep 24 2007, 11:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I've slightely changed the ballsign mod which enables it to be able to write on both sides
pretty cool if anyone wants to know =\
please tell! -
Date: Thu, Mar 19 2009 04:55:01
Well I used signo gel grip grips (about 1.5 cm) and added 2 strips of about 1/2 cm each of dr grip on each side leaving 1/2 cm for tricks like infinity. I see it as making it easier cuz there is a grip there so it wont slip out and even with 1 dr grip on each side, it makes it easier for me at least. I finished it off by adding signo tips to each side to make the mod heavy...
About the backplug, If you get a skinny metal or would chopstick, take out the refill, but the chopstick in, hold the pen so the back plug is facing up, and find a hard surface and hit it down so the chopsitck rams into the backplug. It pops right out! -
Date: Thu, Apr 9 2009 01:33:53
Nachoaddict : thats i could way of taking the backplug out, except when the chopstick is too skinny and breaks >.< But i dont think you need to take the backplug out for this mod, well atleast i dont.
Super Grips are hard to find in U.S so i used Dr. Grips (non-Japanese)
For those who also use Dr. Grips, what kind do you use if you dont use the Japanese kind? -
Date: Thu, Apr 9 2009 03:07:51QUOTE (Kaffatsum @ Apr 8 2009, 08:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Nachoaddict : thats i could way of taking the backplug out, except when the chopstick is too skinny and breaks >.< But i dont think you need to take the backplug out for this mod, well atleast i dont.
Super Grips are hard to find in U.S so i used Dr. Grips (non-Japanese)
For those who also use Dr. Grips, what kind do you use if you dont use the Japanese kind?
Super Grips in the US are name Pilot Eno, they have colored lead and bodies, clear grips. Super easy to find.
And for dr.grips, the next best choice to a jap. dr.grip, is french, then american dr.grip. -
Date: Fri, Apr 10 2009 23:23:54QUOTE (Stevieboy7 @ Apr 8 2009, 11:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Super Grips in the US are name Pilot Eno, they have colored lead and bodies, clear grips. Super easy to find.
And for dr.grips, the next best choice to a jap. dr.grip, is french, then american dr.grip.
Thxs for the Pilot Eno notification. i never knew that.
What if you cant get ur hands on Jap. , or French Dr. Grip. Can you still use the American Dr. Grip grips? if so which one? (G-Spec, LTD, ect.) -
Date: Sat, May 9 2009 17:37:04
what is the weight of the ballsign mod with signo tips at each ends? same as metallic comssa?
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Date: Sat, May 9 2009 22:04:57QUOTE (Pen Islandâ„¢ @ May 9 2009, 01:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>what is the weight of the ballsign mod with signo tips at each ends? same as metallic comssa?
probably more since 3 hgg tips = 1 signo tip
Also i just made this mod with dr.grip over dr.grip
I cut 2cms from each side of and cut the rest in half for the stripes -
Date: Fri, May 22 2009 14:25:33
can somebody make a ballsign using supergrip tutorial?i got no idea and is it needed to cut the grips? i am very confused
Edit.how heavy is the ballsign?
and u all heard of the pen tiara?also made by sakura. if u all by any chance noe, pls tell me whether it is the same as ballsign -
Date: Mon, May 25 2009 05:42:31
My parents made me throw away all my pens and pen parts that I've amassed over the past few months, filling a normal sized black trashbag in the process, and if I could get back any pen, it would be my Ballsign.
On another note, since two ballsigns are used, if you remove the back plug, remove the tip from one of the inktubes, and put it in the backplug's place, using teflon or the like to secure it, leaving in the other inktube, the weight distribution, although slightly more front heavy, is extremely similiar, and you can fit in an insert. -
Date: Mon, May 25 2009 08:01:43
is this a nubless ballsign sub?
http://www.smiggle.com.au/SM_navIWCatProdu...duct_Id=1294786 -
Date: Mon, May 25 2009 22:00:26
thats what i would do
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Date: Wed, Jun 3 2009 08:49:17
I put signo tips on the caps, and replaced the body with a Monami PlusPen...it gets a bit heavier...XD
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Date: Wed, Jun 3 2009 08:52:25QUOTE (gundal_d @ Jun 3 2009, 04:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I put signo tips on the caps, and replaced the body with a Monami PlusPen...it gets a bit heavier...XD
is that still called ballsign? -
Date: Sat, Jun 6 2009 08:22:00
how do u take off the back plug of the sakura ballsign?
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Date: Sat, Jun 6 2009 13:55:59QUOTE (soysauce @ Jun 6 2009, 04:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>how do u take off the back plug of the sakura ballsign?
take a pair of scissors and grasp the sides of just the backplug, then pull -
Date: Fri, Oct 16 2009 19:40:38
how long and heavy is the Ballsign Mod if it has Signo tips on the end?
again, I asked it before, but the answer is lost... -
Date: Thu, Nov 26 2009 07:06:09
If I were to put Dr.Grip grips over Dr.Grip, where would I cut?
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Date: Wed, Dec 23 2009 21:07:39
this reall ydoesnt need a tutorial
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Date: Wed, Dec 23 2009 21:09:33QUOTE (ninjaaa13 @ Oct 16 2009, 01:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>how long and heavy is the Ballsign Mod if it has Signo tips on the end?
again, I asked it before, but the answer is lost...
Still pretty light, about 11 grams, and adding tips on a ballsign defeats the beauty.
QUOTE (Kaffatsum @ Apr 10 2009, 05:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Thxs for the Pilot Eno notification. i never knew that.
What if you cant get ur hands on Jap. , or French Dr. Grip. Can you still use the American Dr. Grip grips? if so which one? (G-Spec, LTD, ect.)
Use Neon. It has the same shaped grip as japanese, but made of the american material. -
Date: Wed, Dec 23 2009 21:16:06
wait neon is just kinda like clear american grip with lip??? but still light?
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Date: Thu, Dec 24 2009 16:40:56QUOTE (Shakenbake @ Dec 23 2009, 03:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>wait neon is just kinda like clear american grip with lip??? but still light?
Neon has the same grip as japanese, except it's made of the american material.
You didn't know? -
Date: Thu, Dec 24 2009 16:46:43
so american material means its lighter and foggy?
and yes weve sorta talked bout it b4 -
Date: Thu, Feb 11 2010 02:18:34
Which store can I but Gelly Roll pen in USA?
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Date: Thu, Feb 11 2010 02:36:36QUOTE (syougihakase @ Feb 10 2010, 09:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Which store can I but Gelly Roll pen in USA?
Probably at most japanese stationary stores. -
Date: Thu, Feb 11 2010 02:37:40
also michaels and artmart
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Date: Fri, Mar 5 2010 22:58:11QUOTE (Kirby @ Feb 10 2010, 08:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>also michaels and artmart
and Joanns. -
Date: Wed, Mar 31 2010 19:07:22
stats?
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Date: Thu, Apr 22 2010 11:23:14
sorry to bring a tread up but, does anyone know where i can get gelly rolls/ballsigns in toronto ontario?
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Date: Mon, Apr 26 2010 02:46:30QUOTE (student @ Apr 22 2010, 07:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>sorry to bring a tread up but, does anyone know where i can get gelly rolls/ballsigns in toronto ontario?
PMALL!!!!!!!!!!
and morning glory in KTown... you'll have to ask simplex for this one. -
Date: Mon, Apr 26 2010 19:57:54QUOTE (nachoaddict @ Mar 18 2009, 11:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I finished it off by adding signo tips to each side to make the mod heavy...
WHY? -
Date: Mon, Apr 26 2010 22:29:28
...you do realize that that post was over a year ago, right?
