UPSB v3
Tutorials Pending Approval / Uni-Ball Vision Elite MOD
My first modded pen... by myself @@
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Date: Sun, Sep 14 2008 07:13:18
[MORE UPDATE: VElite-II is completed, no different looks of VElite-I, but more stable and requires more work/materials] (SEE POST #18)
Uni-Ball Vision Elite is a liquid ink pen. The following MOD I'm going to show you requires two of this pen.
Why did I use this pen?.. Because it's the only pen I can find in my pencil case when I started spinning 1 week ago.
Now I got these two pens in HK (where I'm originally from).. so PLEASE DON'T ask me where to get these in Australia.
(UPDATE: i found these pens in Australia -> NSW newsagency...)
Spoiler:
Anymore questions can be posted down here, or simply pm me..
[From now on, please do not post improvements or comments on this MOD but on VElite-II MOD.. Thanks] -
Date: Sun, Sep 14 2008 07:18:06
Meh, isn't it really really unstable in the middle? You should put something inside it to keep it together.
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Date: Sun, Sep 14 2008 09:47:00
Tape/glue to hold the two together? Seems kind of bad. Seems as if it fell once or twice it would fall apart.
Its pretty long too. That's just my opinion though. -
Date: Sun, Sep 14 2008 10:17:37QUOTE (Spidey @ Sep 14 2008, 07:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Tape/glue to hold the two together? Seems kind of bad. Seems as if it fell once or twice it would fall apart.
Its pretty long too. That's just my opinion though.
1) i know the middle might fall out... but im currently using tape and im new to spinning so i drop lots of times... its still holding it together well enough... however, u guyz can upgrade it if u want, as long as its under this post so i can follow up the work
2) yep, this is a long pen... i mean... very long haha... i'll probably try and reduce it in my next upgrade for this mod... but currently it works like this.. stay tune for the next mod =] -
Date: Sun, Sep 14 2008 10:48:59
How heavy is the mod?
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Date: Sun, Sep 14 2008 19:07:04
Tutorial: Nicely done
Mod: ehh it's okay for your first
Q&A section: Qs 2-5 are not needed (common sense) -
Date: Sun, Sep 14 2008 22:10:29QUOTE (dust_kid @ Sep 14 2008, 08:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>How heavy is the mod?
i really dont know... because i dont have this weighting thingy... its probably slightly or as heavy as one of those pens with metal tips... sry im not too good in this xDQUOTE (CaliMartinio @ Sep 15 2008, 05:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Tutorial: Nicely done
Mod: ehh it's okay for your first
Q&A section: Qs 2-5 are not needed (common sense)
thanks first.. lol, im new to this so.. maybe i havent built up that much common sense yet... but i think Q5 is needed as people (like beginners, like me) might apply grip from the ends of the two mod which is harder to do cuz of the knobs..
speaking of common sense... i dont even know whats HGG is until like 2 days ago... HAHA xD (yep and now i do) -
Date: Sun, Sep 14 2008 22:15:40
For the middle..might i suggest
-Take a regular un-sharp pencil
-cut off however long you want
-shave it down to fit in the pen
-connect the two pens using the pencil part you shaved
-add super glue/strong clear tape for extra reinforcement
the only problem i would see is if you didn't make it equal for each side of the pen
Example: you cut 3 cm off the pencil, divide it into 1.5 and 1.5 for each side of the pen...
did that make sense?
all your doing is taking a pencil and adding it into the middle of the pen for extra reinforcement, then you could add some tape or super glue to hold it together..
just a thought
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Date: Mon, Sep 15 2008 06:09:01QUOTE (Sk8boy175 @ Sep 15 2008, 08:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>For the middle..might i suggest
-Take a regular un-sharp pencil
-cut off however long you want
-shave it down to fit in the pen
-connect the two pens using the pencil part you shaved
-add super glue/strong clear tape for extra reinforcement
the only problem i would see is if you didn't make it equal for each side of the pen
Example: you cut 3 cm off the pencil, divide it into 1.5 and 1.5 for each side of the pen...
did that make sense?
all your doing is taking a pencil and adding it into the middle of the pen for extra reinforcement, then you could add some tape or super glue to hold it together..
just a thought
unsharp pencil is a good one, i was thinking of blu-tac too... but anyway is fine for me =]
and honestly, when i said glue.. i actually meant hotglue gun... sorry for misunderstanding =P -
Date: Mon, Sep 15 2008 07:14:22
oh crap i double posted... sry for that.. >__>
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Date: Mon, Sep 15 2008 07:23:45
Even hot glue is not stable enough to keep it together, it's better to get something to put inside like a pencil, chopstick, or brush, etc... (look at Banz's Grip Avaire for reference as to how he does it)
Just reiterating what everyone else was saying .... it's too long.
Try and find a way to cut it down 3-4 cm and then it'll be okay.
If you are completely new to penspinning/pen modding, you should not be trying to invent a pen mod right now. If you know that you need to correct it, instead of slowly releasing improvements bit by bit... just wait a few months and improve it during that time and then release it once you know it's perfect, or close to it.
If you need feedback on your improvements, post a picture of it in the "Show off your pens" thread and people will tell you how much closer to perfection it is.
This pen has a cool barrel design so i personally think that it looks interesting... but it's too flashy for me to realistically spin.
It's yet another double sided mod... which I'm getting quite sick of seeing tutorials of.
And in the words of iMatt, ask yourself... Why should anyone spin this mod? -
Date: Mon, Sep 15 2008 09:28:39QUOTE (-JC- @ Sep 15 2008, 05:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Even hot glue is not stable enough to keep it together, it's better to get something to put inside like a pencil, chopstick, or brush, etc... (look at Banz's Grip Avaire for reference as to how he does it)
Just reiterating what everyone else was saying .... it's too long.
Try and find a way to cut it down 3-4 cm and then it'll be okay.
If you are completely new to penspinning/pen modding, you should not be trying to invent a pen mod right now. If you know that you need to correct it, instead of slowly releasing improvements bit by bit... just wait a few months and improve it during that time and then release it once you know it's perfect, or close to it.
If you need feedback on your improvements, post a picture of it in the "Show off your pens" thread and people will tell you how much closer to perfection it is.
This pen has a cool barrel design so i personally think that it looks interesting... but it's too flashy for me to realistically spin.
It's yet another double sided mod... which I'm getting quite sick of seeing tutorials of.
And in the words of iMatt, ask yourself... Why should anyone spin this mod?
1) i designed it because im new therefore need a modded pen so its easier for me to both learn and practice the basics..
2) i realized one thing, when i spin with this its much easier due to the length of the pen, so i learn tricks faster and easier, and this might be the reason people might wanna try this mod. however, because this is extra-long, this means changing back to the original pen size will cause tricks harder to do... i used this mod to learn sonic and backaround, but just today i got my own BICtory (cheap... xD), and im actually doing worse on it.. doing on a normal lead pencil (which is what i used when i learn thumbaround like years ago)... is like impossible... but at least it gives me an idea of how it should look like, or how is the trick done.
3) my friend, who is not a spinner, actually gave me this idea of joining the backs together to make a double sided pen, (which is why i got those ends cutted at first... but didnt have this idea until like this morning).. i tried it, and... its 28cm long.. LOL, ofcourse, this makes spinning more easier, but as u all said... its too long =], it might take me a while to continue modding this pen for quite a few reasons:
- i want to spend more time spinning rather than modding
- because i got BICtory now... so i wont need to mod another pen... but ill continue on this because u said it looks interesting which is a good thing =]
- i need more ideas.. xD
thanks for replying anyways, good comments, it made me thought about things which is great for improvement =] -
Date: Mon, Sep 15 2008 15:54:28
Maybe you could shave down the part of the barrel where you join them together.
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Date: Mon, Sep 15 2008 23:04:50QUOTE (Glamouraz @ Sep 16 2008, 01:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Maybe you could shave down the part of the barrel where you join them together.
yep i was thinking about that last night... =P i would probably cut down approx 2.5~3cm each side to make it around 19~20cm, but i'll need time to do this @@ -
Date: Mon, Sep 15 2008 23:21:06QUOTE (FurBelz~ @ Sep 15 2008, 05:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>1) i designed it because im new therefore need a modded pen so its easier for me to both learn and practice the basics..
2) i realized one thing, when i spin with this its much easier due to the length of the pen, so i learn tricks faster and easier, and this might be the reason people might wanna try this mod. however, because this is extra-long, this means changing back to the original pen size will cause tricks harder to do... i used this mod to learn sonic and backaround, but just today i got my own BICtory (cheap... xD), and im actually doing worse on it.. doing on a normal lead pencil (which is what i used when i learn thumbaround like years ago)... is like impossible... but at least it gives me an idea of how it should look like, or how is the trick done.
3) my friend, who is not a spinner, actually gave me this idea of joining the backs together to make a double sided pen, (which is why i got those ends cutted at first... but didnt have this idea until like this morning).. i tried it, and... its 28cm long.. LOL, ofcourse, this makes spinning more easier, but as u all said... its too long =], it might take me a while to continue modding this pen for quite a few reasons:
- i want to spend more time spinning rather than modding
- because i got BICtory now... so i wont need to mod another pen... but ill continue on this because u said it looks interesting which is a good thing =]
- i need more ideas.. xD
thanks for replying anyways, good comments, it made me thought about things which is great for improvement =]
1) that doesn't mean you should make a tutorial for it; should've just left it as a personal mod for just yourself
2)yes...a longer/heavier pen will allow you to spin the thing muchh easier, but that is discouraged. you want to be able to spin the pen with your own skill with as little help from the pen as possible. if you can do a twisted sonic double bust with that thing.... and then you are asked to do it with an MX.... it's pretty embarrassing to say that "i can only do it on this pen *holds up insanely long, heavy, double sided pen* " ---well, that's just my opinion
but longer pens tend to be necessary to do harder tricks
like trying to do an index pinky backaround rev. 2.0 is near impossible with a bictory.... so you use a longer pen for tricks for stuff like that (even then... 25 cm is still excessive)
but beforeeee you learn those more advanced tricks, stick with the bictory, normal pencil, rsvp mx, or comssa---those are the best to learn with so that when you transfer to a longer/heavier pen to learn harder tricks with....you'll be able to do those old, easier tricks even better on the new pen
you really should NOT be using such a huge pen to practice thumbaround, sonic, charge, etc...
i would personally stick to using a pencil or mx when learning all the fundamentals and their reverses, so you do not become worse...
if you use a long pen when you're just beginning, you WILL be a poorer spinner
3. yes, if you wanna continue making improvements to this mod, go ahead, make them and take as much time as you want
but imo, i wouldn't even bother posting tutorials to your mods anytime soon if you've never made any other mods
take the time, learn to spin better, then test out the new pens that you make with your better spinning ability
then take the time and make other mods, and borrow concepts and maybe one day inspiration will hit you as to how to make a really amazing mod that will be known by everyone ----but you won't be able to achieve this step if you dont' make other mods and learn from them (experience and practice are teh best teachers)
Good luck with everything. I hope you turn out to be a promising spinner and modder.
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Date: Tue, Sep 16 2008 00:53:25
one of my friends made this mod except they connected it with a pencil piece
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Date: Tue, Sep 16 2008 02:16:24
ok my deepest apology to everyone who showed interest into this mod... there is a few errors i made >___>
which means, im sorry..
1) the length is actually just 20.5cm ish.. =.= i didnt realise it until when just now my internet died and i was kind of upgrading it..
2) as for the middle bit where everyone says its unstable, i've found a solution... thanks to BIC ultra round stick grip..
to attach it safer:
1) get a BIC ultra round stic grip, remove everything except barrel (this is what u need)
2) mark from one end (prefer the nice end), 3.2CM and 6.4CM.. (both faintly is fine, as long as its seen by you)
3) cut the 6.4CM line, so you'll have a 6.4CM barrel
4) insert barrel into one of the VElite barrel, up to 3.2CM, and close off with connecting to the other VElite barrel, therefore each side having 3.2CM (might require minor force)
5) tape or hotglue or whatever u want to finish off this connection (i just used tape cuz i dont have much tools)
with this improvement i would like to call it VElite-II (simply cuz i like to give each improvement a version xD)
(but to be honest, nothing changed except its more stable)
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back to the comments... the main reason im sharing this mod because i like sharing, i dont mind if this mod every goes famous or not, each mod has its own 'special selling point' and well im not too sure about this mod but i havent seen people posted mods using this pen as well.. so im just offering a new idea using a 'new pen' for people to make (but please correct me this if im wrong.. =]) -
Date: Tue, Sep 16 2008 02:36:41
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[Name of Pen Modification]: VElite-II
[Center of Gravity]: COP
[Weight of MOD]: in terms of weight (assuming u didn't put grips on), its slightly heavier than BICtory (with grips on)
[Length in Centimeters]: ~20.5CM
[Style]: Non-Writeable
[Pens Needed]:
- Uni-Ball Vision Elite (x2)
- BIC Ultra Round Stic Grip (x1)
[Tools Needed]:
- Tape/HotGlue (or anything to attach two pieces together)
- Plastic Cutter (or anything that can cut plastic.. i used plastic nippers that r supposed to be used for model kits)
- Hammer (optional)
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1) Follow VElite-I's step 1
2) Follow VElite-I's step 2
3) Get your round stic, remove all components (including the end..), mark the length and cut out the extra bits according to the pic below:
4) Push 3.2CM in one side of the VElite barrel as shown below:
5) Connect it with the other VElite barrel
6) Attach caps and done (grips optional):
Complete Pic:
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More Q&A:
1) I can't slide the clips out..
- Well, first of all, that step is optional, but I prefer it clipless.. and the way I did it is by holding the cap and having the clip alone standing on the table (the cap is off the table...), use the hammer and gently hit the top of the cap. It should come off nicely.
2) My pen isn't balanced, why is that?
- If you didn't add any grips, the the most possible answer to that question is your round stic inside the barrel, to make sure you dont have 'more weight' on one side of the VElite-II, look into the barrels of VElite (both side) through the words "Vision Elite" (if u dont get it, refer to the 2nd pic i posted here..). The round stic barrel should NOT move pass the line between "Uni-Ball" and "Vision Elite"... if it does, then adjust it back..
3) I'm still finding it too long, is there anyway to shorten it?
- you can separate the two barrels and trim the ends of those, but this will also affect your round stic length so only do it if you know what you're doing.
- if you don't know what you're doing.. (refer to answer 1) then the simplier way (but not as effective as answer 1..) is to:
- 1) open any drawers that you think it wont shatter...
- 2) place pen in between the drawer... and slightly close it... not too hard (or u might end up shattering the pen!)..
- 3) and get pen out when you think it's the limit of the pen xD
Anymore questions can be posted down here, or simply pm me.. -
Date: Tue, Sep 16 2008 02:41:26
That looks really interesting. I like it. You should find a way to make it write-able and I'd dig it.
How's the momentum btw? -
Date: Tue, Sep 16 2008 02:59:11QUOTE (Look Into the Sun @ Sep 16 2008, 12:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>That looks really interesting. I like it. You should find a way to make it write-able and I'd dig it.
How's the momentum btw?
the only way to make it writeable is to reverse the barrels.. but there is quite a lot of problems with that (which is why i introduced this new II instead of old II)
1) length, too long, i tried it... 28CM.. even worse =.= (<-- great for learning tricks, not great for doing tricks)
2) reversing the barrels and the cap wont fit in... the barrels diameters arent even.. and to make caps available, the original ink is required, which is un-cuttable (or all the ink will leak out so it will just end up unwriteable again) and therefore the length of the barrel is limited (unless one sided pen will satisfy people @@)..
i can 'TRY' (but probably wont) to use other inks from other pens and slowly improve this MOD on.. but this MOD is featuring vision elite, and thats why im trying to keep the other materials as minimum as possible..
ideas can be presented here to improve this mod =] im willing to accept any 'working' improvements and crediting people =]
as for your momentum question, well its balanced, not too heavy... (just slightly heavier than BICtory).. as i havent spinned for that long, i dont really know how to express it... lol.. =P -
Date: Tue, Sep 16 2008 03:15:37
try putting a pencil in the middle to add weight and hold it in the middle
you also might want to find ways to add more spinning area to the pen -
Date: Tue, Sep 16 2008 03:57:25
dude why dont you simply edit out the first post to include the second version
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Date: Tue, Sep 16 2008 10:28:34QUOTE (Zombo @ Sep 16 2008, 01:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>dude why dont you simply edit out the first post to include the second version
to see improvements made for this MOD, and like i said on the first post... II requires more work in exchange for stability... but to be honest im pretty fine with I cuz im new to spinning yet it doesnt break off when i drop (well i dont do air tricks so im not sure..)
i've used the spoiler option for the first MOD so its easier to navigate without the mass loading lagness... (i think..) -
Date: Thu, Sep 18 2008 22:14:31
i have already developed VElite-III (a write-able version of VElite-II)
however due to some problems i will not be posting the mod up here..
here are the reasons:
1) time... apparently i have exams in 2 weeks time and i might fail econ here so i must study... (and spin)
2) money.. i dont earn my own living here... my parents support me (until next year..) and vision elite here cost quite a lot..
3) effort.. i aint bothered doing the mod again... at least not now
4) ideas.. my VElite-III is basically a BICtory with a bigger barrel over it and 2 nice looking caps... i dont like copying.. (yet i just did)
so with all those points, i will not post VElite-III unless:
1) i get requests thru msn/pm/xfire (not here..)
2) i feel like this mod is needed for the community.. (which... isnt for now)
if you still want to mod the newest VElite you can PM me, and ill type the guide on there.. without pictures
or u can based on my 4th problem and make it yourself.
good luck with everything and... yeah
(apparently i dont know how to close this... or maybe i dont have the power to.. xD) -
Date: Mon, May 11 2009 22:10:09
ummm... can you please reupload the pictures? the links are all broken/removed. This sounds like an intresting pen mod but there are no pictures so i don't know...
