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Forum Games / Mafia game #5 - TOWN WINS
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Date: Wed, Sep 24 2008 15:52:27
THE RULES:
(read them, so you don't go "oh, didn't know that" >_>)
- Day start
- 51% required to lynch
- lenght of day-phase: 72 hours (maybe 94 1st day)
- night-phase: 36 hours
- at least one post per 36 hours (if not - auto replaced or modkilled)
- 2 role claims per day
- I guess you all know how to play, but if you don't (?) - watch this flash tutorial: http://www.sitesled.com/members/mikeburnfire/mafiascum04.swf
- DON'T EDIT POSTS. DOUBLE POST INSTEAD.
- IF YOU'RE NOT PLAYING THE GAME DON'T POST HERE.
- IF YOU'RE NOT SURE IF YOU CAN POST SOMETHING ASK GAME MODERATOR.
- DON'T POST AFTER LAST LYNCH VOTE.
- WRITE ACTIONS IN BOLD.
- YOU MUSTN'T POST HERE OR DISCUSS THE GAME WITH ANYONE WHO IS PLAYING AFTER YOU'VE BEEN LYNCHED, KILLED OR MODKILLED. IF YOU WANT TO YOU CAN START DISCUSSION THREAD.
- DON'T USE THIS THREAD TO SUGGEST NEW RULES OR TO DISCUSS THE GAME.
- LYNCH FORMAT:CODE[b]VOTE: player[/b]
[b]UNVOTE: player[/b]
everything has been assigned completely at random. mafia-scum game generator
there
PLAYERS(8):
- Zombo
- nolan
- PenCell
- Shadowserpant
- Awesome
- Cybrax
- Teatime
- Mike
DAY 1:
Active players(8):
- Zombo
- nolan
- PenCell
- Shadowserpant
- Awesome
- Cybrax
- Teatime
- Mike
5 to lynch, 2 role claims.
Go, go go.
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Date: Wed, Sep 24 2008 16:02:01
Cool.
Alright, first thing I noticed is that we have clues on this game. During my research for the previous game I noticed the only time the mafia won was when they had clues because clues could be considered as "role claim" yet easily fabricated, so watch out for that.
Other then that, I don't really know how to kick a game off so....
Hi. -
Date: Wed, Sep 24 2008 18:52:27
Good call on the mod-kill, it should keep the game moving. I think you mean: (maybe 96 hours the first day)? Time to sit back and watch.
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Date: Wed, Sep 24 2008 22:49:26
so.....
we say random crap until someone say something stupid then we press on him? -
Date: Wed, Sep 24 2008 23:13:14
What did you guys get for clues?
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Date: Thu, Sep 25 2008 05:03:06
What was your clue Pencell?
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Date: Thu, Sep 25 2008 05:29:01
51%?
lol
so yea
hi
...someone say their clue first >< -
Date: Thu, Sep 25 2008 07:23:36
I have a clue that can clear someone's name so I rather save it. How about someone who has a clue about a mafia guy say it and we work from there? if there even is such a thing?
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Date: Thu, Sep 25 2008 10:01:22
WTF happened to me? i didn't even get a PM. minche you said you'll start this on thursday (today) because i'll be back on thursday. you can't just decide to pull me out without asking for my confirmation. you didn't even send me a PM!
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Date: Thu, Sep 25 2008 15:42:39
yayayay this game finally started
random vote #1
vote: Whitefang
for not receiving a PM and being LATE because school camp, what kind of reason is that
wait wtf whitefang is not in the game???
why did we wait for him if he's not playing?? -
Date: Thu, Sep 25 2008 15:45:16
we didn't wait for him
i sent PM's on monday -.- -
Date: Thu, Sep 25 2008 15:50:19
but we only started playing today... which is the day he arrived meaning he could have come back, confirmed the pm, and started playing right away
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Date: Thu, Sep 25 2008 15:51:46
and i "balanced" this game for 8 players T_T
and what's with the non-players posting here >_>
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Date: Thu, Sep 25 2008 19:36:09
Mike, my clue is about the cop.
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Date: Thu, Sep 25 2008 20:47:05
VOTE: Cybrax
UNVOTE: Cybrax
VOTE: Cybrax
UNVOTE: Cybrax
VOTE: Cybrax
UNVOTE: Cybrax
VOTE: Cybrax
UNVOTE: Cybrax
VOTE: Cybrax
UNVOTE: Cybrax
So what do we say?
My clue is Pointing towards mafiazzzzz.............. or something like that -
Date: Thu, Sep 25 2008 21:30:14
My Clue:
Mafia players have valid role claims, so don't rely on role claims. They don't (of course) have clues.
vote: Pencell
because he wants to know peoples clues but wont tell his own. -
Date: Thu, Sep 25 2008 22:36:21
Ok then nolan. My clue is that Teatime is the cop.
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Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 00:10:17
what does the cop do again? lol
um Vote: Nolan
simply because his clue would allow him to be mafia and get away with it... so he could have made it up
just random, but w/e
guys, did minche tell you guys you could directly quote your clue too?
oh, andQUOTE (PenCell @ Sep 25 2008, 12:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Mike, my clue is about the cop.
edit? -
Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 00:32:15QUOTE (PenCell @ Sep 25 2008, 06:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Ok then nolan. My clue is that Teatime is the cop.
dude did u seriously just say that, if we dont have a doctor we're screwed cuz that would be the mafia #1 target.
im not gonna make a propoer intro post in the game later -
Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 00:38:38
zombo that whole post confused me
what? -
Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 00:40:55
the cop is an important power role, he can get the true role of one player every night.
if teatime is the cop, it's only natural for the mafia to get of him first thing first so that he cannot use his power at all
capiche?
by get him I mean night kill him -
Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 00:43:12
The mafia would want to eliminate the cop would it not?
Vote PenCell
He seems to be trying to get people killed -
Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 00:45:13
yea thats what im saying, the mafia wants to eliminate the cop,
so if you're townie and you know who is cop, you're not gonna tell the mafia who he is.
so either it's a mistake or a mafia move.
it could also be fake info so that the mafia kill a random dude instead of the real cop (if there is any??) -
Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 00:45:23QUOTE (Zombo @ Sep 25 2008, 08:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>the cop is an important power role, he can get the true role of one player every night.
if teatime is the cop, it's only natural for the mafia to get of him first thing first so that he cannot use his power at all
capiche?
by get him I mean night kill him
Zombo beat me to it -
Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 00:49:22
also if its fake info to trap the mafia to kill a random guy, i think it's also a bad move cuz it confuses the townies who know nothing. The goal of the townies is to remove all confusion, so it's not in the best interest of the townies to create even more confusion. also, not only are you confusing the mafia, but you might be confusing other power roles such as the doctor to protect an unimportant person,. so IMO everyway you look at it its a bad move or a scum move.
we should wait and see the reaction by teatime tho before deciding tho. -
Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 01:09:03QUOTE (Zombo @ Sep 25 2008, 05:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>dude did u seriously just say that, if we dont have a doctor we're screwed cuz that would be the mafia #1 target.
im not gonna make a propoer intro post in the game later
you said doctor, thats why i was confused, but now i get it, u meant a doctor to protect the cop?
and what about the second part >< -
Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 01:18:40
why would pencell reveal a target for mafias jsut like that?
He hardly defended his right to keep the clue to himself.
I dunno if Teatime want to reveal himself as a cop, but it would save Pencell's ass. -
Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 01:20:57
i have a question
do the mafia know who else is in the mafia as of now? or do they not know til night? -
Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 01:22:26
Yes Mafia know who other Mafia are.
Only us townies dont.
Until one get's lynched of course. -
Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 01:23:22
im ust trying to think what pencell would gain from that accusation
maybe to coax the real cop out?
or he could just be a retarded townie -
Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 01:27:14QUOTE (Shadowserpant @ Sep 25 2008, 09:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>you said doctor, thats why i was confused, but now i get it, u meant a doctor to protect the cop?
and what about the second part ><
uhh the part where I say I'm gonna make a post to "introduce" myself (i.e. my character) in the game? -
Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 01:27:18
I think it's the second one xP
But srsly iono.
Maybe he didn't know that the cop was important?
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Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 01:29:53
maybe he didnt know wtf the cop was, like i didnt until my memory jogged
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Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 01:30:00QUOTE (Shadowserpant @ Sep 25 2008, 09:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>im ust trying to think what pencell would gain from that accusation
maybe to coax the real cop out?
or he could just be a retarded townie
coax the real cop out?? if the real cop is revealed then we're screwed. IMO the best situation is if the cop gets to live at least 2-3 nights, dig up some dirt, then publicly say "X is mafia", "Y is not" etc... (share the results of his findings basically), then we either lynch him or wait for him to get nightkilled, then if it turns out he's cop, then we can assume all he said is true and use that info to kill the mafia.
it's a pretty simple plan. -
Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 01:33:22
i suppose, but at the moment im just trying to figure out pencell
also, DO we have a doctor? -
Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 01:35:07
tough to know... the doctor should not reveal himself cuz he'd be #1 target before the cop himself since doctors cannot self-protect... only way to know is if somebody got a hint about it.
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Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 01:35:34
yea, well, whoever the doctor is if we have one, keep eye out for the cop
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Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 01:49:52
its a WIFOM situation though...
suppose the doc and mafia both know who the cop is.
assume the doc will protect cop.
then mafia, guessing that, should clearly target somebody else.
then the doc, guessing that, should clearly protect somebody else.
then the mafia, guessing that, should clearly target the cop.
etc... -
Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 01:55:40
...i would just protect the cop. period.
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Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 01:58:04
Only thing is, you don't know if TeaTime really is the cop :-\
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Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 01:59:13
the mafia could easily mislead who they're going to target, just as the doc could mislead who he's protecting
and yea, we dont know, thats why im still trying to figure out pencell -
Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 02:33:24
first things first:
there are 8 players. games of 7 players typically have 2 mafia, 5 townies. So I think this game probably has 6 townies 2 mafia. 5 townies 3 mafias seem really unlikely, unless the townies are really strong and we have al ot of power roles. Antoher possibility is 5-2 + 1 serial killer, but IMO that's still too much against the townies.
so assume 6-2 then, that means we're "allowed" 1 mislynch per lynch.
If we mislynch twice in a row, we're dead, cuz that's 4 townies dead, and we'd have same number of townies and mafia (2-2) which mean automatic mafia win.
So I think in the first turn it's safe to mislynch (not saying we should), as long as it gives us a lot of info, but allow us to play a bit more aggresively IMO
i meant 1 mislynch per correct lynch. -
Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 03:08:39
well, if we just lynch correctly then no worries.
so, til pencell shows up, anyone got anymore useful clues? -
Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 03:16:13
If Zombo is right then It doesnt matter who we lynch. As long as we take the first step forward.
he might not be a mafia (2 out of 8) , but oh shit....
we mislynch then next day with have someone with a 2/6 percent of a mafia. Chances of catching a mafia is slim.
Anyways.... regardless if Teatime role claims or not, Mafia is going to target him. His gonna die anyways, lets just lynch him. If he's dead, who are the mafia gonna murder?
They have to lynch someone randomly.
VOTE: TeaTime
I mean Murder randomly.. oops -
Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 03:20:54
wthell are you talking about teatime's gonna die no matter what?
if pencell is mafia then they don't know who the cop is, and then we need to kill pencell
yes zombo is right, that doesn't mean we shouldnt try for a correct lynch.gif)
no one answered my question and its kind of important
did minche tell you guys in your PMs that you were allowed to directly quote your clue? -
Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 03:25:08
What is Pencell's and Nolan's clue is true?
That means they both are townie. Or both mafias.
Hmmm
Then we shouldnt lynch teatime
Unvote: TeaTime
Its either Nolan or Pencell ATM.
I'd like to vote for pencell siince my instinct are telling me to.
[/b]Vote: Pencell[/b]
oops
Vote: Pencell -
Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 03:29:46
yea, the only explanation for pencell's clue revelation is retardedness
but...
still, nolan's clue was awfully helpful for the mafia
dont know if i can trust it
i think ill keep my vote for now
and i still need an answer to my question, it's important, it'll help us -
Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 03:38:00
Hey.
Hey woah.
VOTE:Cybrax
Because he just said TeaTime was going to die anyways.
Doesn't mean you have to vote for him.
ANd voted for PenCell because of instinct?
Yeah...no.
What question Shadow? -
Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 03:45:25QUOTE (Cybrax @ Sep 25 2008, 11:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>If Zombo is right then It doesnt matter who we lynch. As long as we take the first step forward.
he might not be a mafia (2 out of 8) , but oh shit....
we mislynch then next day with have someone with a 2/6 percent of a mafia. Chances of catching a mafia is slim.
Anyways.... regardless if Teatime role claims or not, Mafia is going to target him. His gonna die anyways, lets just lynch him. If he's dead, who are the mafia gonna murder?
They have to lynch someone randomly.
VOTE: TeaTime
I mean Murder randomly.. oops
lol what if Teatime is really a cop, then it means he's a confirmed innocent, why would we want to kill a confirmed inno??
even if he were to be killed in night 1, then let them "waste" the night kill on him, at least someone elese will be safe!!
Another player I'd like to take a look at is nolan.
Check out his hint:
"Mafia players have valid role claims, so don't rely on role claims. They don't (of course) have clues."
Doesn't that sound a little bit too convienent? Role claim is the most powerful tool townies aagainst the mafia and now they have valid role claims?? IMO this could be an attempt to downplay the important of role claims so that the mafias don't need to use roleclaim...
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Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 03:49:37QUOTE (Shadowserpant @ Sep 25 2008, 08:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>did minche tell you guys in your PMs that you were allowed to directly quote your clue?
that question.
and lol zombo thats exactly what i said before
that's why my vote's on nolan right now -
Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 03:49:56
however it might be legit... because it says "They don't (of course) have clues."
If they really didn't have a clue and nolan is mafia, he couldnt have made up the 2nd sentence.
so IMO there's possibility:
1) Mafia have hints, Nolan is mafia, knows about hints, and made up a lie with the second sentence to throw us off.
2) Nolan tells the truth, in which case Mafia players really dont have hints. Nolan is a townie.
IMO this will be answered at the first correct lynch. Because once a mafia player dies, his role will be revealed. So if it turns out that the mafia player had a valid role claim at death, we trust that nolan is a confirmed inno + mafia have no hints. -
Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 03:52:49QUOTE (Shadowserpant @ Sep 25 2008, 05:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>um Vote: Nolan
simply because his clue would allow him to be mafia and get away with it... so he could have made it up
guys, did minche tell you guys you could directly quote your clue too?
just reminding what i said lol
zombo, what do you mean he couldn't have made up the second sentence if he were mafia? why not? -
Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 03:57:40QUOTE (Shadowserpant @ Sep 25 2008, 11:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>that question.
and lol zombo thats exactly what i said before
that's why my vote's on nolan right now
IMO you're not suppoed to ask thst question shadow cuz it's cheating :/ ur not supposed to use the structure of the PMs as evidence for mafia... so if u want the answer to ur question just read the PM carefully...QUOTE (Shadowserpant @ Sep 25 2008, 11:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>just reminding what i said lol
zombo, what do you mean he couldn't have made up the second sentence if he were mafia? why not?
nonono im not saying that.
I'm saying, if nolan is mafia, then mafias have hints too, because he could have only written the second sentence if he knew there are hints in the game, which means he would have received one too.
this is the two possibilities regarding nolan:
1) Mafia have hints, Nolan is mafia, knows about hints, and made up a lie with the second sentence to throw us off.
2) Nolan tells the truth, in which case Mafia players really dont have hints. Nolan is a townie.
(reminder) -
Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 03:59:16
i dont really see how it's cheating...
if minche allowed us to quote from the pms then it's a part of the game right?
and ill just go ahead and say, she did indeed tell me i could do that
i want to know if the rest of you could
and therefore, why nolan didn't
now, if mine was a special case, then this is irrelevant
and zombo, teatime mentions clues in his first (the second) post, so i dont think that theory works -
Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 04:04:09
i dont understand why ur saying that nolan didnt direclty quote his pm?
(about Teatime) oh yea I see... well damn :/
then I guess its a matter of if nolan is smart enough
smart enough to have formulated a fake hint that early in the game, without no pressure really -
Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 04:04:57
i want to know if minche told the rest of you if you could quote the clue
if she DID, it would have made sense for nolan to just quote it
unless he's making it up
if she did not tell the rest of you you could do that, then it doesnt matter -
Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 04:10:57
??? do you have any proof nolan did NOT quote his "clue"???
i dont follow your reasoning -
Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 04:15:02
quote quote, like direct quote?
instead of paraphrasing, like how we're usually only allowed to do
ok look. she told me at the beginning that i could not directly quote or screenshot any PMs
but then she says under my clue that i could directly quote it
nolan did not directly quote. maybe it's not that important, i dont know, there's always a possibility he just didnt want to go through the trouble of quoting, i was just wondering -
Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 04:16:04
i know what a quote is, but why are you bringing up the issue of quotes??
do you have evidence that nolan did not quote his pm directly?
cuz "Mafia players have valid role claims, so don't rely on role claims. They don't (of course) have clues." sounds a lot like a direct quote to me... -
Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 04:18:59
hmm i dont know i guess i was thinking like, quote /quote kinda thing
cuz thats what i was gonna do
ok i guess it was a stupid theory sorry >< -
Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 04:20:23
dude just because its in quote tags doesnt mean it's a direct quote...
QUOTE ("THIS IS FROM MY PM")Your role: God. You win the game.
lol... -
Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 04:24:17
so are you a townie? then i win too ^^
lol jk
ok im retarded lol
but i was gonna input the stuff myself
and then, you wouldnt be allowed to do that then right? it would violate the rules if you quoted like that and weren't allowed to...
idk ok
still
the clue allows alot of mafia room, thats why im suspicious -
Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 04:29:06
i dunno yet... kinda wished teatime didnt leak the concept of clues right from the start :/
anyway as for my clue, i dunno if I should reveal it, but deals with the existence of "sleeping powers". If you understand what I mean, you can probably verify that I'm townie just from that.
i dont think it's really helpful IMO, but it talks about "sleeping powers" that mafia ppl don't have basically... so thats why they have no clue what im talking about, but certain townies should understand what im getting at and therefore they should trust me as townie. -
Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 04:33:08
zombo
....yes
and you'll help yourself by posting slightly less
i wont say anymore
my clue... i dont want to reveal it yet because it will help someone later.
it will help us now, but...
ill just say, the mafia number may not be as set in stone as you think -
Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 04:36:11
lol shadow i understand 100% what ur saying, but I think mafia might make you target as soon as day 2/night 2 not sur tough... lot can happen
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Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 04:39:22
pshh could be now, idk
but if i die, someone else wont, and truth is, i dont have a power xP
of course they prolly wont just believe that but w/e
discuss now so whoever dies, the rest can carry on well
and zombo, i have you set as a townie now
unless you're just an extremely smart mafia, but that would require the mafia to have clues.... which would make you and nolan mafia, not allowing for pencell...
idk ill figure that out later -
Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 04:51:22
to be fair, there *could* be 3 mafias and pencell is not confirmed mafia, right now im more leaning him as being a dumb townie tho... i have my own "hitlist" though.
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Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 04:52:52
well im waiting on pencell's defense to see if that was just stupid or not
nolan and cybrax are next -
Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 12:20:22
Oh wow, I'm gone for the night and in the morning there's 4 page, jeez.
Alright.
I will begin by revealing a part of my clue: There is a doctor. My clue tells me who it is but I won't reveal his name. I hope this helps you develop a strategy.
Nolan's "clue" seems highly unlikely and I'm having trouble believing it...
Cybrax seems rather weird...
Mike...I dunno, haven't based an opinion yet.
Awesome seems suspicious to me. He barely posted and when he did he voted pretty quickly on Pencell.
Currently I'm pretty convinced he's Mafia, but honestly I don't know if I can really trust you, Zombo and Shadowserpent ;P both of you posted a bunch of stuff and it can very easily just be a plan to confuse us into believing you are townies, while both of you haven't really posted any significant helping clues.
I'm not sure I understand Zombo's but I have a general idea, and shadowserpent...I'm guessing his clue says that there is a person who can turn into a mafia member(or the other way around? never heard of that though) which is maybe his own power that he just turned into a clue? who knows...
The thing I don't get is that if the above is correct, what does it matter when you say it?
So far, I'm pretty confused, I think we should put pressure on Awesome.
Awesome, you clue/defense? -
Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 12:35:26
i dont think you, personally, can verify the truth of my statement because like Pencell said, you are the cop, which means you already have a power. I think the doc will have to check you out everyday.
so far, only shadowserpant fully understood my hint, but I am hoping that more than one townie can understand it. This will help establish my credibility.
If 2 or 3 more ppl understand, i think its safe to say its not a mafia conspiracy -
Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 22:40:21
Where the heck is Awesome?
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Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 23:25:38
zombo its possible that no one else is going to understand your hint simply because it doesnt apply to them
also, if you were to think zombo and i were mafia, that means there's no one else...
doesn't seem likely, with all the other suspects
and no, i dont have a power
it was just a clue, i have no idea how that's supposed to work -
Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 23:58:06
Let's get Awesome to talk.
Vote:Awesome -
Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 00:40:53
Thats not how you get someone to talk.
My hint is actually: Someone from A to N is a townie.
Mafia* oops* -
Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 01:29:20
lol cybrax... what a dumb hint... there are 3 ppl from A to N.... if none of them were townie, there would be 3 mafia... you totally just made that up
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Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 03:51:21
Ah sorry I haven't been checking this thread as regularly as I should
It seems suspicious to me that Zombo needs to say stuff like "that proves I am a townie" I don't know that attitude is suspicious to me. Although I cannot say I have anything to go off of now.
Cybrax, what is your clue, first you start of by saying it has to relate to the mafia, then some A-N thing being a townie, I see it as you're accusing me and Nolan as the mafia and that you're innocent. That clue has to be made up by you,beacuase if you were a townie you would automatically be able to tell who the mafia was,(or at least most of it) and if you were mafia you wouldn't reveal yourself like that. You obviously made it up for some reason, mabye you don't have one? That would make you mafia.
As for my clue, it alludes to a traitor amongst us, that's all I am going to say.
Unvote: PenCell
Vote Cybrax
Can I do that? I am really suspicious of Cybrax right now. -
Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 04:11:38
awesome im very skeptical about your clue, cuz it seems to be the same thing as shadowserpant, i cannot imagine why two ppl who have the same clue...
also there are two ways for townie to win this game: 1) find mafia OR 2) find all the townies.
we should strive to fulfill the two objectives as best as possible. this means we should try to confrim as many innocenets as possible, and confirm as many mafia as possible. therefore everybody need to prove their innonce in some way if they're really townie, and that reduces the number of candidates for mafia.
IMO the biggest threat right now is cybrax cuz his clue is really phony
vote: cybrax -
Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 04:14:12
dude i messed up as you can see.
i meant mafia not townie. -
Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 06:09:55
this IS my clue!
and yet once again you didn't directly quote it
hmmm
idk yet about cybrax
and i dont think zombo's acting suspicious, everyone here wants to prove they're a townie, and he knows he proved it to me at least
and awesome, u posted well after cybrax, but didnt see his correction?
...hmm
well for me personally, im onto awesome because he used my clue...
ignore that direct quote crap -
Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 06:17:52
Zombo and Awesome fucked me up.
I got confused after reading their post. =/
My hint made sense.
So theres 1 in A-N and theres another in M-Z.
Damn...
What a fucking useless clue -
Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 06:33:04
where does it say there cant be more than one?
gah w/e, im still looking at awesome...
and where the hell is pencell's defense -
Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 06:44:20
someONE IS A Mafia.
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Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 06:55:44
it doesnt say ONLY one wtf
"A person named cybrax is mafia"
true
"A person named awesome is mafia"
false? because the first one says A PERSON?
that doesn't make sense -
Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 08:30:02
To be honest I don't trust Zombo for some reason, and Awesome seems more suspicious then Cybrax simply because Awesome used the same clue as Shadowserpent. Given that we mislynch Awesome we can pretty quickly call on Shadowserpent and maybe even Zombo...
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Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 10:48:39
http://www.upsb.info/forum/index.php?s=&am...who&t=11225 well, it's been 36 hours since nolan last posted =/
i will see if WhiteFang will replace him
votes:
Cybrax: (Awesome, Mike, Zombo)
PenCell: (nolan(?), Cybrax,
nolan(?): (Shadowserpant)
Awesome: (Teatime) -
Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 11:29:19
wait. im still herer. sooy. i got caught up.
anyway: i still keep my vote on pencell because his qupte seemed false. along with a few others here.
and just because i didnt direct qoute doesnt mean its not true.
and plus, theres 2 people below me whou could be replaced.
wait. disregard that last statment -
Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 12:12:42
well teatime never confirmed nor denied pencell's claim...
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Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 12:43:58
Do you want me to?
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Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 13:10:27
well IMO we should just lynch cybrax now and worry about pencell later
IMO if cybrax dies, next round i have a guess who the second mafia is but it will have to depend whether cy brax is really mafia or not -
Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 13:14:30
Im still sticking with PenCell.
His clue didnt seem real.
btw: how do we roleclaim? -
Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 13:26:50
you just hav to say the role outloud... although if your hint is correct, roles are worthless
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Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 13:34:42
oh.
HMM. its a tought decision wether to lynch Cybrax or Pencell.
Pencell could be mafia, if we dont lynch him he could killus allme slowly.
Oh well. its woth a shot.
unvote: PenCell
vote: Cybrax
why? he does seem really sucsipiuos -
Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 18:27:01
Some of you guys assume Someone for many.
What if Awesome and Nolan was a not a mafia and I was?
What if Nolan and I was not a mafia, and Awesome was?
What if Awesome and I are not mafias and Nolan Was?
There has to be one mafia. Since it doesnt say There's mafias in A-N. But my clue is A mafia.
Why is nolan voting for me? Maybe he's in my clue?
I know Im not a mafia. -
Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 19:13:14QUOTE (Teatime @ Sep 27 2008, 01:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>To be honest I don't trust Zombo for some reason, and Awesome seems more suspicious then Cybrax simply because Awesome used the same clue as Shadowserpent. Given that we mislynch Awesome we can pretty quickly call on Shadowserpent and maybe even Zombo...
Well, if awesome is indeed copying my clue and is a mafia, then you can trust me? And if you can trust me, you should be able to trust zombo, because i'm the one who understood his clue.... there's no way he could have made that up
unless nolan is mafia and mafia really do have clues
*sigh*
you guys are all voting cybrax...
tell me, if cybrax is a townie, does it reveal someone else as mafia?
i dont want to mislynch without reason -
Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 21:24:03
it wont reveal anything and the mafia will still put a hit. its still worth a shot though
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Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 21:29:55
but maybe it's worth more for another shot...
idk, im between pencell and cybrax -
Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 21:54:55
if cybrax is NOT mafia, we'll have to be more careful the second round... or maybe even take more risks
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Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 22:01:32
*sigh* ok
cybrax didn't have the greatest defense...
and you guys seem to be all over him so i'll go ahead and
Unvote: Nolan
Vote: Cybrax
oh and, in case i dieQUOTE (Minche @ Sep 22 2008, 06:20 AM)Your clue: There is a traitor. He may join mafia later in the game, but now he is only a townie.
Note: you may directly quote this clue in public.
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Date: Sat, Sep 27 2008 22:11:28
clsoed for lynch
I gave minche mod powers for this game. -
Date: Sun, Sep 28 2008 17:37:15
lynched: Cybrax -> Mafia (KPSA)
now, this day lasted a lot longer than 72 hours (or 96 hours), so every day from now on will last 72 hours exactly.
warnings:
- nolan: 3/5 (for not posting for 36 hours, you must now post every 24 hours or you'll earn another warning)
- Teatime: 1/5 (for editing =/)
rules aren't there for nothing
submit your night actions in next 48 hours. -
Date: Thu, Oct 2 2008 11:50:40
okay, sorry for delay, i was really busy
(and everyone sent their actions in 48 hours, so there's no problem there)
from now on nights will last 36 hours.
ehm
Mike is killed. Mike was townie (GPC)
ACTIVE PLAYERS(6):
- Zombo
- nolan
- PenCell
- Shadowserpant
- Awesome
- Teatime
ELIMINATED PLAYERS(2):
DAY 1:
- Cybrax (mafia, KPSA)
NIGHT 1:
- Mike (townie, GPC)
as i said, sorry please
this day phase will last 72 hours!!! -
Date: Thu, Oct 2 2008 12:27:31
Awesome must be mafia, fuck him up.
Nolan's clue was right, so he's townie.
Pencell and shadowserpent are townies.
Zombo is either Mafia or a turncoat, fuck him up next.
Vote: Awesome
Actually, if there's 2 mafia zombo could be innocent, and anyone of you could be turncoat, but I believe there's 3 mafia. -
Date: Thu, Oct 2 2008 13:11:02
weird night kill for town... i dont understand what mike did.
teatime probably used his cop power if he confirmed pencell as townie (meaning he acknowledge pencell clue is correct), who did you investigate then
*what mike did to be warranted as target for nightkill -
Date: Thu, Oct 2 2008 13:16:47
No point in scurrying around the bushes anymore, yes I am a cop and I investigated Shadowserpent(nothing personal, if Shadowserpent was mafia then awesome is innocent and vice versa)
I am still not sure what your role in all of this is, Zombo. I guess I'll take Shadowserpent's word for you being innocent.
I would appreciate a direct copy of your clue though.
It makes sense that there's 2 mafia and 1 turncoat, 'cause if there's 3 mafia and 1 turncoat then Mafia can be half the citizens and that doesn't make sense. -
Date: Thu, Oct 2 2008 13:45:18
Your clue: "Regular" townies can get extra/special powers if they fulfill certain conditions. They can only use those powers once.
shadow fulfilled his condition last day by being top poster. i am not sure how useful his power is tho -
Date: Thu, Oct 2 2008 17:45:13
I'm having trouble figuring out who the hidden mafia is.
Basically, it can be anyone other then Shadowserpent(And me, obviously). -
Date: Thu, Oct 2 2008 19:44:31
I dunno why, but I think the hidden mafia is zombo. Cuz it seems like hes trying to make it to obvious that hes a townie.
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Date: Thu, Oct 2 2008 20:57:41
Hmm. Now that you guys say that, it could be true zombo is mafia. but, i still think pencells clue was fake. OR awesome.
What if zombo is faking his role as a hidden mafia and is really a townie, but is trying to hide the real deal. oh wait- that would be turncoat. anyway.
Vote: PenCell
Jsut because his qoute seemed sooooo fake. -
Date: Thu, Oct 2 2008 21:18:27
wtf? pencell is clearly not mafia, teatime confirmed it!!! how could have pencell guessed teatime was cop correctly! that would have been lucky
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Date: Thu, Oct 2 2008 21:30:21
Pencell isn't mafia you turd. He may be turncoat. but so might you and Zombo.
I also have the exact same type of clue only about the doctor...
So are you guys going to lynch Awesome already or are we going to wait 3 days to lynch an obvious target? >.> -
Date: Thu, Oct 2 2008 21:38:06
fine. but if he ends up being townie.....
unvote: PenCell
Vote: Awesome
and i take it ofensivley being called a turd..... =[ =] -
Date: Thu, Oct 2 2008 23:02:53QUOTE (Zombo @ Oct 2 2008, 06:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>shadow fulfilled his condition last day by being top poster. i am not sure how useful his power is tho
freak, why'd you say that, it woulda been better for less people to know (and some people may not have understood)
well yea im not allowed to mention it ><
uhm, all i confirmed is that zombo was a townie as of the start of this game, because nolan's clue was true in that mafia had roles, so i guess they must not have clues, and zombo had one...
i have no idea who the traitor is and when they're supposed to turn
and zombo, when did teatime confirm pencell? he said he investigated me
i was afraid to go after awesome this last round in case he had a similar clue or something and was actually a townie....
but since my name seems secure
Vote: Awesome
uhm... out of curiosity... next target? -
Date: Thu, Oct 2 2008 23:17:10
dude
pencell said teatime was cop
teatime said he was cop
ergo, teatime just confirmed pencell's hint as correct.
therefore, pencell is town. -
Date: Thu, Oct 2 2008 23:48:06
There seems to be a misunderstanding" here,
My clue was:
"There are five townies and two mafia"
I inferred from that there was a turn coat, it does seem similar to shadows, but thats what I got.
I am pretty sure Teatime is a townie, and I don't like being accused like this
, I don't have any leads on the mafia so I'll vote later. -
Date: Thu, Oct 2 2008 23:50:20
unless pencell is mafia
and teatime just became mafia this round... -
Date: Fri, Oct 3 2008 00:06:40QUOTE (Shadowserpant @ Oct 2 2008, 07:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>unless pencell is mafia
and teatime just became mafia this round...
that would be sooooooooo cheap. -
Date: Fri, Oct 3 2008 00:10:32
i just found it interesting that teatime suddenly came up with the courage to admit himself cop all of a sudden
and pencell's clue seemed way too specific, as well as retarded to admit -
Date: Fri, Oct 3 2008 00:12:05
true.... but lynching aweome wont hurt.
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Date: Fri, Oct 3 2008 00:13:21
It is a possibility I suppose, but Teatime hasn't done anything to lead on to being a mafia, neither has PenCell, it would be a good mafia plan. The only thing that could back that theory up is TeaTime is suddenly more aggressive.
I am not to sure about this myself... -
Date: Fri, Oct 3 2008 00:15:34
Unvote: Awesome
Vote: Pencell
i would like to ask the townies to please trust me on this
regarding lynching awesome... don't even sweat it ;]
so.. please... anyone with me? -
Date: Fri, Oct 3 2008 00:17:38
All right Shadow I'll go with you for lack of anything else to go on.
Vote:PenCell -
Date: Fri, Oct 3 2008 00:23:24
Unvote: Pencell
wait
im going out to eat
i need to think -
Date: Fri, Oct 3 2008 00:25:33
back to my orginal vote. but how do we know that your not mafia and want to kill 2 people?
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Date: Fri, Oct 3 2008 00:32:05
^ your supposed to write actions in BOLD nolan
I voted cause I thought Shadow knew what he was doing, its discouraging when he pulls his vote. Well if nolan is voting for pencell as well I'll keep my vote the way it is. -
Date: Fri, Oct 3 2008 00:39:26
i didnt vote. im staying with you. but im thinking about it. plus, i said " back to my original vote" because that was the vote i had in the beginning.
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Date: Fri, Oct 3 2008 01:05:27
i admit the possibility is intruiging...
i am currently waiting on minche to answer my PM question before I know if I can disclose additional info... -
Date: Fri, Oct 3 2008 01:59:37
oh no, i pullled my vote because i didnt want a lynch while i was gone, i wasnt done yet
i might die tonightQUOTE (nolan @ Oct 2 2008, 05:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>back to my orginal vote. but how do we know that your not mafia and want to kill 2 people?
teatime has confirmed me as townie, correct? well, so has zombo
if i was mafia, that would make teatime, pencell, zombo, cybrax and I all mafia
does that make sense? -
Date: Fri, Oct 3 2008 04:38:39
The reason I turned aggressive is because this game is over. Kill Awesome, wait for someone to die, and according to that lynch the turncoat.
Done, deal, game end.
I'll die in the end of this day anyway if the turncoat has any sense at all...
You honestly think that I'll both be a turncoat and a cop? that's stupid.
Pencell could be turncoat but we don't know that. What we do know, is that Awesome is mafia, so finish him off already >_< -
Date: Fri, Oct 3 2008 05:06:19
you dont have to be mafia and cop
if pencell is mafia, you're both lying about you being cop
and like i said, dont worry about awesome right now
...alright
Vote: Pencell
in case there's a lynch before i get here:
if pencell is mafia, lynch teatime.
if pencell is townie, lynch awesome (unless he's dead)
if pencell is townie and awesome is dead, you guys figure it out between zombo and teatime ><
but please please trust me on this and vote pencell -
Date: Fri, Oct 3 2008 10:34:38
Awesome posted a lame clue that copied yours which made as much sense as Cybrax's clue, he barely has any basis for his votes, and everyone else who voted for Cybrax are confirmed citizens, so why are we lynching someone who MIGHT be mafia instead of lynching someone who's SURELY mafia?
If you ask me, I'd say shadowserpent turncoated just now and he's trying to deceive you all.
We kill pencell, and he kills another townie, we're left with 2-2 and we lose.
I'm willing to fully role claim in order to validate myself as a cop, I have some info that will surely ease your minds about that and explain another thing. -
Date: Fri, Oct 3 2008 15:03:15
in your investigation did you get a simple townie result or do you think investigation would have revealed turncoats too?
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Date: Fri, Oct 3 2008 15:39:25
simple townie result :\ I just got: "Innocent"
and that's it...so I can't say if shadowserpent really is the turncoat but consider the way he's acting.
If we follow his train of thought, we lose... -
Date: Fri, Oct 3 2008 18:46:08
all of the sudden it seems like there are 2 turncoats. 1 im most positive on, the other, not so sure. ugh
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Date: Fri, Oct 3 2008 22:52:24
you just investigated me tonight, and the night phase would be when minche would tell me i've turned, wouldnt it? which means it should've told you i was mafia
ok, zombo... you know that i recieved a power....
i cant say anything
im trying to tell you to NOT WORRY ABOUT AWESOME for this roundQUOTE (Shadowserpant @ Oct 2 2008, 10:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>if pencell is townie, lynch awesome (unless he's dead)
someone, please.
and do your role claim thing please
but part of your logic (2-2 and we lose) isn't entirely true, for a reason i can't tell you
if everyone is more for awesome then i'll go along with it
i could be wrong and there's a chance something might not work but idk
you guys tell me -
Date: Sat, Oct 4 2008 01:06:38
I don't know the order of night actions. Maybe first I got back that you're townie and then you turned.
And why the fuck can't you say anything. Why can't you tell us your power, or why we shouldn't worry about awesome? How is keeping us all in the dark and in the danger of losing good for us?
I don't get your line of thought completely. You expect us to completely trust your mysterious all-knowing power without giving us any information or credibility as to why your line of thought is the right one.
I want to hear what people think about Shadowserpent, especially Zombo.
Alright fine.
Role claim: Cop, UPSB (if you recall the previous game where Retro was the cop, he also had UPSB as his team)
My special power is obviously investigation but my hidden element is that if I'm the last vote on a lynch I lose my power.(which is why I waited for Shadowserpent to vote for Cybrax instead of doing it myself)
Also, a direct copy of my clue:
Your clue: Mike is the doctor. He can protect one person during night-phase.
Note: you may directly quote this clue in public. -
Date: Sat, Oct 4 2008 01:14:27
im waiting on minche to naswer back my pm :/
i thought shadow was innocent but as you say he could be turncoat.
one way to tie things together would be that the power he received by being top poster triggered his turncoat, who knows.
wait mike was the doctor, did mafia just get really lucky???
or did they know more -
Date: Sat, Oct 4 2008 01:23:06
teatime the reason i cant tell you anything is because i was specifically told not to
damnit, no, i didnt trigger a turncoat i triggered something else that could be very useful T_T
like i said, if everyone's for awesome right now, i can switch some stuff around
and im TRYING to hint you guys, please read my last post more
http://www.upsb.info/forum/index.php?s=&am...st&p=172031 this one -
Date: Sat, Oct 4 2008 01:34:05
well here's the deal
im very confused... but...
it doesnt matter is pencell or awesome goes
for me at least
so i'll let you guys talk
im going to a football game right now, ill b back in like 4 hours
unvote: pencell -
Date: Sat, Oct 4 2008 11:17:22
So the logic behind this is that if Pencell is a townie that makes me mafia. If Pencell is Mafia that makes Teatime mafia because Pencell was able to use his "clue" to support Teatime's role as the cop.
My vote on Pencell remains.
It sounds like shadow is hinting at him having a nightkill power, he might of just became part of the mafia and got his "power" from that. -
Date: Sat, Oct 4 2008 12:11:58
I wish shadow would just vote for someone and just leave it at that.
BTW: Wheres PenCell been?
and we have 12 hours or so until this day is over. -
Date: Sat, Oct 4 2008 20:32:03
im changing my vote because we need a lynch, pencell or awesome, i don't care. You guys go for it, ill support. Like i said, it doesnt matter which one for me. It just depends on who you trust more: Teatime and Pencell, or Awesome.
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Date: Sat, Oct 4 2008 21:22:38
votes:
Awesome: (Teatime, nolan)
PenCell: (Awesome)
4 to lynch -
Date: Sat, Oct 4 2008 23:50:00
vote: awesome
we need a lynch -
Date: Sun, Oct 5 2008 00:35:53
alright fine
let's get this game over with,
minche doesn't want to answer my question or something
vote: awesome -
Date: Wed, Oct 8 2008 11:18:33
Awesome was lynched. He was mafia.
waiting for PM's -
Date: Wed, Oct 15 2008 15:54:19
so ends the 5th mafia game -> flawless townie victory
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but you were luck last day (lol), Teatime jumped to conclusions: if he investigated Awesome, he would show as "innocent" (read PM's below, and Teatime should've known that he was already mafia player and godfather (>_>)).
anywho, this was only my first game and i hope next time there will be more players (because i really planned this game for more players =/ )
PM's
(i forgot to save Zombo's PM, if you could just post it here :>)
Mike:
Your role: Doctor, GPC
Your special power: You can protect one person during night-phase
Your clue: Some players can appear innocent when investigated by cop (and they aren't, obviously)
Teatime:
Your role: Cop, UPSB
Your special power: Investigate one person during night-phase. Just send me the PM with name of the person you want to investigate.
Your clue: Mike is the doctor. He can protect one person during night-phase.
Cybrax
Your role: Mafia, KPSA
Your special power: none
Your clue: none
Awesome:
Your role: Mafia godfather, FPSB
Your special power: always show innocent when investigated, protected from night-kill
Zombo is the traitor, you can send him secret messages (during night-phase) via moderator only and you mustn't reveal your identity to him until moderator (I) tells you to.
Your clue: none
Shadowserpant:
Your role: Townie, PSERHOME
Your special power: none, but be leading poster of day (any day) for extra power.
Your clue: There is a traitor. He may join mafia later in the game, but now he is only a townie.
PenCell:
Your role: Townie, PPP
Your special power: none, but if you don't role claim for first 2 days you will get one
Your clue: Teatime is the cop. Every night he can investigate one person.
nolan:
Your role: Townie, JEB
Your special power: none, but you can get special power if you "force" 3 role claims.
Your clue: Mafia players have valid role claims, so don't rely on role claims. They don't (of course) have clues.
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Date: Wed, Oct 15 2008 16:54:48
How the fuck did Mafia guess that I was Doctor?
Did they just get lucky?
Or was it because I was the first to vote for Cybrax? -
Date: Wed, Oct 15 2008 19:03:24
i think it was just luck
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Date: Wed, Oct 15 2008 20:29:29
lol i dunno why u waited for me to decide if i was gonna be mafia or not,
i was waiting for u to tell me if i could win as townie but u didnt answer so i just went ahead and lynched awesome, hoping i could win as town, and i was right. -
Date: Thu, Oct 16 2008 06:55:47
Can I join in on the next game?
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Date: Thu, Oct 16 2008 07:52:46
WTF why the fuck did you ask me to place nolan if the game finished already. Honesty, what the fuck is wrong with you? first you just decide to pull of out of the game without asking or anything then you ask me to join when the game is fucking finshed?
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Date: Thu, Oct 16 2008 10:32:47
It's true that Shadowserpent could have been godfather but the idea was that I trusted everyone to be townie except for Awesome.
I was insanely lucky to change my inspection in the last second from Awesome to Shadowserpent though =P I just really wanted to make sure.
I was right on the money with my first conclusions(AKA guesses) though, you got to admit =P I said Awesome is definitely Mafia, and everyone is townie except Zombo who might be the traitor XD -
Date: Sun, Oct 19 2008 02:54:00
i want to see zombo's...
btw i had a sniper shot -
Date: Sun, Oct 19 2008 02:59:47
Hi, this is your information PM for the Mafia game.
You cannot directly quote / screenshot this message or any other PM under any circumstances.
Feel free to reveal the information paraphrased (in your own words), if you wish so.
Your role: Traitor. You may join Mafia later. You will be notified when such an occasion arise. Until then only mafia godfather knows that you're the traitor. Your role claim: Swespin.
Your special power: Mafia godfather can send you secret messages via moderator. He mustn't reveal his identity to you until you can join mafia.
Your clue: "Regular" townies can get extra/special powers if they fulfill certain conditions. They can only use those powers once. And there are only 2 mafia players now.
Note: you may directly quote this clue in public.
Please confirm by replying to this message that you have understood this information and will take part of the game.
If you have any question, PM me.
after day 1 i already knew awesome was mafia cuz he said "there might be a traitor" as his hint, the only reason he knew that is cuz he knew i was traitor since he's godfather, since shadowserpant already had that hint.
I was willing to bet my life in the 2nd day to lynch awesome without any question, in the sense that if awesome was not mafia, i'd be lynched in day 3 no questions asked. but then i wasnt sure if i had the power to win as town or not so i asked minche and never really got a straight answer. -
Date: Sun, Oct 19 2008 03:05:59
im confused as to how the game ended...
zombo wasnt dead... -
Date: Sun, Oct 19 2008 03:07:24
im a traitor, but im still townie, im not converted into mafia yet, so i win too
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Date: Sun, Oct 19 2008 03:23:32
ooo you didnt convert yet haha
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Date: Sun, Oct 19 2008 03:30:53
i knew that there were 2 mafias in the game only, i had no intention to convert at all, the odds were largely in favor of town if i stayed town.
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Date: Sun, Oct 19 2008 03:39:01
yeeaaa
this whole game disappointed me -
Date: Sun, Oct 19 2008 21:24:01
it took to long.
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Date: Mon, Oct 20 2008 12:27:59
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Date: Mon, Oct 20 2008 13:39:12
It wasn't as intense as the other mafia games. Maybe it's because I was townie and didn't have to consider every single move I made >.>
Was pretty easy too.
All those extra powers are cool but almost never actually come into play because the game ends too soon...extra hidden powers should be used in like 14 men games where it takes a long time to win regardless of what happens, and then they become more useful.
People should play this more ;[ -
Date: Mon, Oct 20 2008 13:51:53
well, i was hoping this would be 14 players game =/