UPSB v3
Advanced Tricks / Inverse Shadow thread
uh huh...what is it?
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Date: Tue, Oct 2 2007 00:04:42
I don't really know how this trick works.
tutorials/videos would be nice -
Date: Tue, Oct 2 2007 00:19:27
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBy01POjAx4
...it's not in english but you should be able to understand what an inverse shadow looks like from it. -
Date: Tue, Oct 2 2007 07:03:53
w00t!
I had a video of Inv Shadow on Putfile, but it only shows half of it and then starts viewing advertisings instead DDD: Anyways, in the beginning it's easier if you start out with a long charge before the Inv Shadow, and do kind of a palm up Inv Sonic but block the pen with 1 instead of catching it with it (if you do Still 23, which imo is easiest). -
Date: Tue, Oct 2 2007 07:08:27
Fairly easy trick to do. Just do it like you would a normal shadow. Charge, then release it when it's over your palm. Some of Flip's videos have inv. shadow falls/rises and such.
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Date: Tue, Oct 2 2007 07:13:48
Eh, I ended up doing a really bad Palm Spin. Now I can't even do that anymore.
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Date: Tue, Oct 2 2007 11:37:26
easy to do, yes.
but really hard to link smoothly to other tricks. at least for me. i now do not use it at all since there will be this very significant lag after i complete the trick. and it doesn't look that great IMO for such an smount of practice.
it's basically a palm up charge and let go. -
Date: Tue, Oct 2 2007 14:53:23
Doing the normal shadow still helps a lot too; I spent a long time practicing shadow stills and after that I could do fairly shoddy inverse shadow stills without really practicing.
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Date: Thu, Jan 10 2008 00:41:35
English version of tutorial, by the same guy (Kiruaner is rlly good at inverse shadow =D).
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Date: Thu, Jan 10 2008 13:13:55QUOTE (sadi teh pirate @ Jan 9 2008, 06:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>English version of tutorial, by the same guy (Kiruaner is rlly good at inverse shadow =D).
(Here)
thanks for bumping a three month dead thread -
Date: Thu, Jan 10 2008 16:55:46QUOTE (Teddy @ Jan 10 2008, 08:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>thanks for bumping a three month dead thread
his post was relevant, so it's fine. -
Date: Sat, Jan 19 2008 03:38:47
i can't get the pen to spin on the palm of my fingers. advice? i watched the tutorial and everything so im confused now
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Date: Sat, Jan 19 2008 04:06:23
you know how when you do a normal shadow, you start off with a charge like motion...is that the same with the inverse shadow o.0...?
do you start off with a charge like motion in the inverse shadow too? just different original gripping of the pen? -
Date: Sat, Jan 19 2008 12:14:46
Yes, you start with a charge, and when you're learning it, it's much easier to do if you rev up with charges and then release by stretching your fingers and lowering your index finger so that it is lower then your middle finger. Then let it spin on top of your fingers and catch in the slot you want by lifting the highest finger(12, lift index and open a gap, and so on)
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Date: Sun, Jan 20 2008 04:09:59QUOTE (Teatime @ Jan 19 2008, 07:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Yes, you start with a charge, and when you're learning it, it's much easier to do if you rev up with charges and then release by stretching your fingers and lowering your index finger so that it is lower then your middle finger. Then let it spin on top of your fingers and catch in the slot you want by lifting the highest finger(12, lift index and open a gap, and so on)
i see...thanks
but does the pen when doing a real inverse shadow (without charging before releasing) have to start off with most of the pen inside and pointing out? -
Date: Sun, Jan 20 2008 04:14:12
It starts just like Inverse Sonic
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Date: Sun, Jan 20 2008 04:28:11
oh, i see
thanks sketching
i was a bit confused cause in the 2nd tutorial link, the guy started with most of the pen in and point at himself and then doign a charge and then releasing -
Date: Sun, Jan 20 2008 04:36:23
That's because doing a Charge motion before gains momentum and makes it easier to perform the Inverse Shadow. Starting the 1/2 Charge of the Inverse Shadow itself is kinda awkward at first, an additional Charge motion before starting the Inverse Shadow makes it easier. Plus, if the pen is in a Sonic Normal position, doing a 1/2 Charge rotation first puts the pen in proper position to start the Inverse Shadow.
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Date: Thu, Feb 7 2008 00:15:51
Some hybrids that you can do to help gain momentum & practice are:
- Twisted Sonic 1.0 23-12 ~ Inverse Shadow 1.0 23-12
- Twisted Sonic 1.0 23-12 ~ Inverse Shadow 1.0 12-23
Both performed palm up.
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Date: Thu, Feb 7 2008 04:43:10
Shadow is pretty hard for a newb like me... and there's the inverse @_@
By the way. what are the pen mods he used? Can't recognize 'em
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Date: Thu, Feb 7 2008 05:12:02
it's okay, shadow is rather hard, well for me too
i've heard of people learnign it in a few tries, but you know, it's okay to not be a genius
and i've been spinning for about 4 1/2 - 5 months now, and i still can't do a good rev shadow or rev inverse shadow, so dont' worry, all it takes is practice -
Date: Thu, Feb 7 2008 05:26:49
The weird thing is, I learned shadow (not mastered yet) before i did sonic 34-23
Backaround family is taking me eons
And what was his pens' mods? XD I like longer pens -
Date: Thu, May 8 2008 23:24:17
Does anybody have another video tuto for the inverse shadow, because the previous two videos that were linked are removed.
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Date: Thu, May 8 2008 23:41:55QUOTE (NoRice4U @ May 8 2008, 07:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Does anybody have another video tuto for the inverse shadow, because the previous two videos that were linked are removed.
im sure if u ask kiru-a, he will repost his previous tutorial~ -
Date: Fri, May 9 2008 00:45:53QUOTE (sadi teh pirate @ May 8 2008, 03:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>im sure if u ask kiru-a, he will repost his previous tutorial~
all of the videos on kiru-a's old account are gone... I was talking to him about it.
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Date: Fri, May 9 2008 06:35:59
WHen doing inverse shadow 23, do you lower your middle finger when releasing the charge?
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Date: Fri, May 9 2008 10:21:51QUOTE (Gunblakes @ May 9 2008, 08:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>WHen doing inverse shadow 23, do you lower your middle finger when releasing the charge?
No, just open up a space after the charge to get the pen out of 23, and then straighten up your hand. -
Date: Fri, May 9 2008 12:27:34
In a inverse shadow 23 (normal) to release the pen I both lower the middle and raise the ring, but only a little bit, and keep the finger straighten out...
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Date: Sun, May 11 2008 08:01:23
Can anyone post a video of it? The videos on page 1 are dead links for me.
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Date: Sun, May 11 2008 19:19:37
Here's how it looks atleast, an old video I had on my putfile.
http://media.putfile.com/Inversed-Shadow-Still-23 -
Date: Sun, May 11 2008 20:04:14
If you can shadow, the inverse shadow shouldn't be too hard to learn. They have the same concepts, simply one spins palm down and the other palm up. Just grab a light pen and do what you did while trying to learn the shadow. It's what I did. Worked fine.
Inverse shadows are easier than shadows imo...
Sfsr, you should post a vid with a nice combo revolving around inverse shadows. Nice inverse shadows. :] -
Date: Mon, May 12 2008 20:03:31QUOTE (Look Into the Sun @ May 11 2008, 10:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>If you can shadow, the inverse shadow shouldn't be too hard to learn. They have the same concepts, simply one spins palm down and the other palm up. Just grab a light pen and do what you did while trying to learn the shadow. It's what I did. Worked fine.
Inverse shadows are easier than shadows imo...
Sfsr, you should post a vid with a nice combo revolving around inverse shadows. Nice inverse shadows. :]
Come on, that is not true, inverse shadow is way harder than the regular shadow, because fingers only bend one way, and you have to lower the whole finger to release the pen from the charge. You are just making ppl trying to learn the trick frustrated. and if you are trying to learn the inverse shadow, you shouldnt just go straight from regular shadow to it, you should try to learn inverse sonic first to learn how to do the release. -
Date: Mon, May 12 2008 20:21:10
I would agree that Inverse Shadow is quite harder to learn and perform than Shadow. The fingers do not bend back like they would for Shadow and do not get out of the way as easily. It takes a different kind of push and catch than the usual Shadow.
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Date: Mon, May 12 2008 20:35:42QUOTE (Look Into the Sun @ May 11 2008, 10:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Sfsr, you should post a vid with a nice combo revolving around inverse shadows. Nice inverse shadows. :]
Kirua should do that, I can mostly just do Inv Shadows in 23. :/QUOTE (Simån @ May 12 2008, 10:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Come on, that is not true, inverse shadow is way harder than the regular shadow, because fingers only bend one way, and you have to lower the whole finger to release the pen from the charge. You are just making ppl trying to learn the trick frustrated. and if you are trying to learn the inverse shadow, you shouldnt just go straight from regular shadow to it, you should try to learn inverse sonic first to learn how to do the release.
True this. You really should start Inv Shadow out by trying to manipulate an Inv Sonic into not changing slot. -
Date: Mon, May 12 2008 23:27:14QUOTE (Simån @ May 12 2008, 01:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Come on, that is not true, inverse shadow is way harder than the regular shadow, because fingers only bend one way, and you have to lower the whole finger to release the pen from the charge. You are just making ppl trying to learn the trick frustrated. and if you are trying to learn the inverse shadow, you shouldnt just go straight from regular shadow to it, you should try to learn inverse sonic first to learn how to do the release.
Hm, maybe it's just me then. I have weird fingers. They bend abnormally -- but at least they're flexible. If I try to straighten my fingers, they naturally curve upwards. -
Date: Mon, Aug 11 2008 14:27:09
I had the same question. Well, this thread helped me. I got it in like 10 mins. Fairly easy. Not that easy to do in combos. Thx a lot everyone. You guys (kinda) indirectly helped me!!