UPSB v3
Approved Tutorials / F1r3Fly's G3 Mod
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Date: Wed, Oct 1 2008 21:47:17
hi guys, now i found time to translate the tutorial and post it here, so here is it:
Foreword:
I searched a long time for a mod which spins like a Double Capped mod and looks like a Single Capped mod. After many trys i reached my aims with this mod. i am very proud of this pen.
What you need:
Pens:
-1 Pilot G3 (everything except Grip and Backplug)
-1 G2 (body)
-1 Faber Castell Grip Matic Tip
-1 Hgg (Tip+Grip)
-1 Dr.Grip Shaker Japanese (Grip)
-1 Sailor Gel or Sailor Gel Fake (Grip)
Tools:
- File or Sandpaper
- Nail or Toothpick (to get inner thing out of Grip Matic Tip)
- Tape
- Saw
- Uhu Pattafix or Hot Glue or something similar
- cutter or x-acto knife
Tutorial:
First of all decompose the G3 and cut the G3 body like it is shown in the picture. be sure to file down the small uprisings where the Body begins. if you don't do that, you will have a gap between G3 and G2 body. now you can put the inlay in the g3 body.
Cut the G2 body at 5,6 cm, like it is shown in the picture:
Cut the G3 inktube to 7.4 cm (measured from the inktube tip), after that wash it out ( do it very accurate. it may look clean but it isn't^^ )
now take some tape and put it on the g3 ink tube ( right side on the picture ), so that it fits in the g3 body.
Now get the "mechanism"of the Gripmatic Tip out ( therefore use the nail or toothpick) and Glue The g3 inktube in it (patafix/hot glue)
After that you can cut the Dr grip grip, you need about 2,7 cm to 2,9 cm of the dr grip grip. i used for the 3 grips : 1,3 + 0,8 + 0,7 cm. Put the sailor grips between the dr grip grips. then print out the insert. this are all the parts you should have at this point:
Put the inlay and the ink tube, with the tip on it, in the G2 body:
Now put the G2 and the G3 body together. The G3 body must be !!! between !!! Insert and Inktube
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Date: Wed, Oct 1 2008 21:52:46
Here are all the parts you need for the cap:
First of all remove that rubber thing from the g3 cap and put the G3 tip into the cap. Then wrap the inlay around the HGG grip and put it into the cap ( push it in hard so that the g3 tip doesn't rattle )
Now put the HGG tip into the cap and after that the 5 mm hgg grip to hold the tip in, so it can't rattle.
Now put about 1 cm of Dr grip grip and some stripes of sailor gel grip on the cap. should look like this:
After finishing the cap, put it on the g3 body. Tape the back of the body, so that the cap stays on it.
now you are finished and the pen is ready to spin^^
if you did everything correctly, it should look like this:
here are the facts:
Lengh: 21 cm
Weight: 18 gramm
CoG = CoP = Center of Spinning Space
Cost: 8-10 €
inlay dimensions:
front: 5,6 cm x 2,8 cm
body: 8,4 cm x 2,5 cm
cap: 3,7 cm x 3,8 cm
If you have questions about the mod or about the way you make it, just write me a pm^^
enjoy the mod
thx 4 reading
F1r3Fly
/edit: Please stop asking me about the insert, i don't want to publish it. thx -
Date: Wed, Oct 1 2008 21:54:23
That's pretty hot... I need one.
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Date: Wed, Oct 1 2008 22:04:51
Sweet now all i need is the grip and i can make it. I cant wait it looks amazing. Great mod f1r3fly.
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Date: Wed, Oct 1 2008 22:08:13
I cant get some of the pens for this... someone want to trade???
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Date: Wed, Oct 1 2008 22:17:03
That's a great looking mod...I am planning on trying it myself.
Quick questions:
1. Is the G3 the metal tip version? or plastic tip one?
It looks like the metal version, but just want to make sure.
2. Is there a picture of the Faber Castell Grip Matic?
I thought I saw one on GPC...might be nice to add it here?
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Date: Wed, Oct 1 2008 22:41:10QUOTE (Kam @ Oct 1 2008, 11:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>That's a great looking mod...I am planning on trying it myself.
Quick questions:
1. Is the G3 the metal tip version? or plastic tip one?
It looks like the metal version, but just want to make sure.
2. Is there a picture of the Faber Castell Grip Matic?
I thought I saw one on GPC...might be nice to add it here?
3. Have you released the inserts? If not, do you know the dimensions for the papers?
1. Yeah it's the Metaltip version
2. Here is a pic of the Grip Matic: http://carline.sk/images/GRIP-MATIC-1.jpg
3. don't know -
Date: Wed, Oct 1 2008 23:02:41
this mod is honestly the only mod at the moment im actually considering trading for
weight is listed, but can anyone tell me momentum, compared to KT? -
Date: Thu, Oct 2 2008 06:04:21
F1r3fly are you kidding me, you stole a lot from me translation i know its your mod and i hadnt permission, but that gives you not the right to steal so much parts from my translation, so much parts are the same, some slightly changed, at least u could thank me because your translation is based on mine
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Date: Thu, Oct 2 2008 06:06:34
...it's his mod...
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Date: Thu, Oct 2 2008 06:54:07
thanks Cy-Spinn
Now the only thing I'm missing is the Grip-Matic...And I searched it online...is that a mechanical pencil? o.O
It looked like a pen from the picture you showed, but I cannot find a pen version of it...only pencil.
i guess I'll have to trade someone for that pencil >_< -
Date: Thu, Oct 2 2008 07:28:29
Yeah, it's only a pencil.
It's quite neat too.
When it starts to run out of lead, it automatically feeds more out. -
Date: Thu, Oct 2 2008 08:32:51
Yes!!! finally! F1R3FLY!!! I LOVE YOU!!!!!
Thanks for releasing the tutorial in English. We all love this mod. I just got the parts today except for the Faber Castell Grip Matic. Does anyone know any possible sub for it? -
Date: Thu, Oct 2 2008 09:49:05
to sub the gripmatic is hard,
trading would be easier because many people in ereupe can get them(germany,poland,hungary ......)and also in china. -
Date: Thu, Oct 2 2008 11:13:58QUOTE (Lasse @ Oct 2 2008, 08:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>F1r3fly are you kidding me, you stole a lot from me translation i know its your mod and i hadnt permission, but that gives you not the right to steal so much parts from my translation, so much parts are the same, some slightly changed, at least u could thank me because your translation is based on mine
lol, not really, some parts can't be translated in a different way, so some passages may look similar to your translation.
@ Kam:
inlay dimensions:
front: 5,6 cm x 2,8 cm
body: 8,4 cm x 2,5 cm
cap: 3,7 cm x 3,8 cm
i will edit this into the tutorial. -
Date: Fri, Oct 3 2008 18:26:21
Thanks F1r3Fly,
I can't wait to get that last pen and give this mod a try
But, I still want one from you for my collection. So if you ever want to trade me, please let me know -
Date: Sat, Oct 4 2008 09:20:53
Yeah. trade with me too.
I've got a question. Is it just me or does gripmatics have different tips? I saw a plastic tipped one at a store here yesterday. Can I use that? Is the weight the same?
And what's the weight of the gripmatic tip used in this mod?
How much of the G3 body do we cut? (measured from the fromt of the threads)
Thanks! -
Date: Sat, Oct 4 2008 11:36:27
The ink from the G3 inktube needs to be completely removed right? Or it might get really messy.
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Date: Sat, Oct 4 2008 12:42:25
My mate once time give my 2 random tips, they were metal... Then I saw this mod, and I write "Faber-Castell Grip Matic" in Google, I enter first website, and I looked at the image of it's front... WTF?? I have this tip So I will do this mod
Faber-Castell Grip Matic have nice grip too, they're have sections, like Anyball
Photo of front: http://bp0.blogger.com/_AfrPaG3Klqo/Rzadlw...-h/100_1642.jpg
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Date: Sat, Oct 4 2008 22:01:18
Really nice mod, I especially like how this mod is 21 cm and would actually fit in my hand.
Is there anyway to make it write? -
Date: Sat, Oct 4 2008 22:05:06
Yeah, I just drilled a hole through the back plug of the G3 and reversed an RSVP inktube and put it in.
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Date: Sat, Oct 4 2008 22:28:31
Meh..CAN the grip matic be subbed?
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Date: Sat, Oct 4 2008 22:44:52
Its just a tip. You probably could sub it with a signo or something. That might throw off the GOG though.
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Date: Sun, Oct 5 2008 18:00:02
How heavy is a gripmatic tip?
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Date: Tue, Oct 7 2008 01:44:52
It took a while, but I finally made this mod (well, not 100% yet...waiting on a trade for the grip matic..in the mean time I'm using a signo tip). I also designing my own insert for this pen, so that might take another few days XD
Overall, I love this mod...it spins very nicely and looks awesome (even without the inserts).
What I like:- good balance
- a lot of momentum
- plenty of spinning area (the g2 to g3 body connection may not be 100% smooth, but it doesn't my spinning at all)
- very customizable (90% of the pen is your own insert XD ) see note 1
What I dislike:- not very easy to make (a lot of sanding, and cutting Dr. Grip grips is harder than I though >_<)
- looks long (21 cm is about the same length as KT, but because the grips are so far apart, it looks longer than a KT) see note 2
- use of tape to keep cap on (just doesn't seem like a durable solution)
- not writable (see note 3)
Note 1: I actually tried making a clear version using an airblanc grip, but that didn't turn out too well. So I think inserts are they way to go.
Note 2: I am thinking if you design the inserts properly, the design will help make the pen not look so long. Right now it probably looks long because I have no inserts
Note 3: This is easily fixed by reversing the HGG grip and keeping the G3 back cap on the pen. It doesn't seem to affect balance that much.
But, despite the dislikes, I still love this mod. Great job F1r3Fly!!! and thanks for sharing it with us. -
Date: Tue, Oct 7 2008 05:27:04
I've got a question, the insert dimensions you posted, do they match up end to end? Or is there some rolling space provided?
Like an MX is 3.81 cm high, but you're actually only seeing half of that when it's in the pen. Is this pen's insert like that? -
Date: Tue, Oct 7 2008 05:28:56
uhm, all inserts are made twice the required width, it's pretty standard
makes it easier to roll i guess -
Date: Tue, Oct 7 2008 05:51:56
Can anyone give me any tips on making this mod?
ive made it before... but with a few sloppy things and overall difficulty.
Any particular ways that you guys are smoothing out the slope of the g3, to get a clean line between the g3 body and the g2 clear bit?
as much as i sanded the slope down.. i still came up with a gap.
any other ways of connecting the g2 barrel to the g3? emptying out the inktube seems to be an annoying and messy system.
How much are ppl shaving down their g3 barrel from part?! when i tried to attatch the g2 to the g3... it ALWAYS pushed and crumpled the insert inside the g2 part. i could never get enough clearance between the inktube connector and the g3 barrel with the insert in...
and it you guys wanna make it retractable, just get a bic clic stic mech, it fits PERFECTLY into the back of a g3 barrel. -
Date: Tue, Oct 7 2008 08:19:56
what tip can use fake mechanism"of the Gripmatic Tip ??
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Date: Tue, Oct 7 2008 17:38:43
MAN big THX for translation!!
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Date: Tue, Oct 7 2008 19:35:34QUOTE (matthewk206 @ Oct 6 2008, 10:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I've got a question, the insert dimensions you posted, do they match up end to end? Or is there some rolling space provided?
Like an MX is 3.81 cm high, but you're actually only seeing half of that when it's in the pen. Is this pen's insert like that?
I'm making a seamless insert for my F1r3Fly mod, so I can give you the dimensions for the insert for the non-wrapping area
...except...I'm at work XDQUOTE (Stevieboy7 @ Oct 6 2008, 10:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Can anyone give me any tips on making this mod?
ive made it before... but with a few sloppy things and overall difficulty.
Any particular ways that you guys are smoothing out the slope of the g3, to get a clean line between the g3 body and the g2 clear bit?
as much as i sanded the slope down.. i still came up with a gap.
any other ways of connecting the g2 barrel to the g3? emptying out the inktube seems to be an annoying and messy system.
How much are ppl shaving down their g3 barrel from part?! when i tried to attatch the g2 to the g3... it ALWAYS pushed and crumpled the insert inside the g2 part. i could never get enough clearance between the inktube connector and the g3 barrel with the insert in...
and it you guys wanna make it retractable, just get a bic clic stic mech, it fits PERFECTLY into the back of a g3 barrel.
I dunno...I just used a file and sanded it carefully. I sanded from above first, leaving a bit of the slope next to the g3 thick body part. Then when that was even, I started sanding from the side until it was flush with the side of the g3 thick body.
That probably didn't make any sense at all...lol.
As far as the insert crumbling, that happened to me as well. I guess it depends on how much overlapping paper you have. I would user a temporary blank paper and sand the body down until you can get the paper in without problems. Then replace the paper with the insert.
hope that helps,
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Date: Thu, Oct 9 2008 09:57:17
Is the cap of the G3 sturdy? Or is is just wobbly from the tape?
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Date: Thu, Oct 9 2008 19:16:10
definetly sturdy
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Date: Fri, Oct 10 2008 02:43:28
great looking mod, if only i had gripmatics and another g3
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Date: Sun, Oct 12 2008 18:06:11
heres a question, you glue the tip to the inktube and put that plus the insert into the g2 piece. but what holds the tip/inktube in the g2 piece?
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Date: Sun, Oct 12 2008 21:45:37
he said in the first post "now take some tape and put it on the g3 ink tube ( right side on the picture ), so that it fits in the g3 body."
A portion of the g3 inktube is inside the g3 body, and that piece is taped up to fit snug. The tape doesn't even have to be so tight because as long as the piece doesn't come out when you turn it upside down its prob not gonna come out when you spin it. -
Date: Mon, Oct 13 2008 23:35:48
From personal experience, if you put too much tape, you can actually crack the G3 body since it is already so weak from being sanded down. However, since there is an insert and a G2 barrel on top of that, it should be fine.
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Date: Tue, Oct 14 2008 08:59:15
whats the best way to make this writable?
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Date: Tue, Oct 14 2008 22:35:08
Gripmatic Tip have substitute?
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Date: Wed, Oct 15 2008 02:47:56QUOTE (deLiz @ Oct 14 2008, 03:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Gripmatic Tip have substitute?QUOTE (iamk34n3 @ Oct 4 2008, 03:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Its just a tip. You probably could sub it with a signo or something. That might throw off the GOG though.
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Date: Wed, Oct 15 2008 13:43:09QUOTE (Yanos @ Oct 14 2008, 04:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>whats the best way to make this writable?
Take another tip, Gripmatic tip have a small piece of plastic for pencil.
Maybe mechanizm like in Retractable MX? -
Date: Wed, Oct 15 2008 17:04:05
Of course, but i was asking if someone hav tested any tip that have the same weight..
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Date: Sun, Oct 19 2008 16:46:11
awesome mod! making it right this moment
almost done ^^
so hard to get the g-2 onto the g-3 T.T -
Date: Sun, Oct 19 2008 16:48:21
You need to file more. But the side with the threads are much easier to fit onto the G3 barrel than they other side.
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Date: Sun, Oct 26 2008 07:17:29
what exactly is a Faber Castell Grip Matic???
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Date: Sun, Oct 26 2008 07:25:25QUOTE (dave @ Oct 26 2008, 12:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>what exactly is a Faber Castell Grip Matic???
It's a mechanical pencil you can buy in european coutries. Here I'll go find a picture. -
Date: Tue, Nov 4 2008 22:20:45
Could somebody tell me which is the exact length of the Grip Matic tip? I have bought one and I think is short, only 15mm.
EDIT: Ok I solved that. There are different Faber Castell Grip Matic. The first with a 15mm tip, the other with a 18mm one, that's the pen for this mod. Be sure you buy the right pen! -
Date: Tue, Nov 25 2008 22:01:33
I want to make this mod pretty badly, I'm getting G3s later this week and the first thing I think I'm going to do is make this mod.
The only problem is that I don't have any Gripmatics...QUOTEIts just a tip. You probably could sub it with a signo or something. That might throw off the GOG though.
So I was jsut wandering if anyone tried subbing the Gripmatic tip with any other tips yet? (signo?)
If so, how are the results?
And how did you go about doing it?
EDIT: wtf, all the pictures are gone ? -
Date: Sat, Nov 29 2008 02:43:25
anyone know what happened to the pics? and if they're ever gonna get back up?
ive been dieing to make this mod, and the day my parts come in, the pics are gone!
ill mess up terribly without them. hahah. -
Date: Sat, Nov 29 2008 02:49:58
my firefly g3 with some subbed parts :
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Date: Sat, Nov 29 2008 09:13:58
Are the pictures gone?
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Date: Sat, Nov 29 2008 12:38:13
I made one a few days ago.. I used a blue sailor grip so its kinda ugly.
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Date: Sun, Nov 30 2008 06:47:07
is it just me or r the pics all gone
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Date: Sun, Nov 30 2008 07:28:29QUOTE (dxchsdrgo @ Nov 29 2008, 10:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>is it just me or r the pics all gone
its not just you, i pmed F1r3fly about it and he said the server where he hosts his pics are down or something like that.
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Date: Mon, Dec 1 2008 13:46:46
fixed it. pictures are up again.
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Date: Tue, Dec 2 2008 03:00:12QUOTE (F1r3Fly @ Dec 1 2008, 09:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>fixed it. pictures are up again.
Aye thanks -
Date: Tue, Dec 23 2008 16:59:45
Its a very good mod, cant wait to get it
I think that look of this mod really depends only in insert, but it doesnt matter at all. I will get it! -
Date: Tue, Dec 23 2008 17:30:01
@Kam
I remember theres that optical illusion where horizontal lines make things seem shoter (compared the vertical lines) , maybe you could consider making an insert with some sort of horizontal lines in it (that blend in ofcourse). Just a suggestion! -
Date: Sun, Dec 28 2008 11:55:43
I hope its as good as dr kt
Because its more pretty - IT WILL BE MINE! -
Date: Sun, Dec 28 2008 16:02:12
So any one has the exact weight of the grip matic tip ?
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Date: Sun, Dec 28 2008 20:55:05
It has to be 0.5mm g3? or 0.38mm g3?
Simply - the metal tip or the plastic tip one? -
Date: Sun, Dec 28 2008 21:59:14QUOTE (KhaDori @ Dec 28 2008, 12:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>It has to be 0.5mm g3? or 0.38mm g3?
Simply - the metal tip or the plastic tip one?
Yes, you use the metal-tipped G3 for this mod and I believe it has an 0.5 mm point. -
Date: Sun, Dec 28 2008 22:05:53
it doesn't matter if you use 0.5 or 0.38. you can use both
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Date: Mon, Dec 29 2008 01:23:09
on the plus side atleast you end up with an extra metal tip if you use the metal tip g3
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Date: Wed, Dec 31 2008 20:04:05
dude, the mod uses the metal tip of the G3...
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Date: Wed, Dec 31 2008 22:00:36
You can always count on the fine folks here to point out every slip one makes here. I realize my err. Musta had a brain fart.
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Date: Fri, Jan 9 2009 16:50:32
is it just me, or are the pictures dead?
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Date: Sat, Jan 10 2009 12:39:25QUOTE (Guitrum @ Jan 9 2009, 11:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>is it just me, or are the pictures dead?
i think... they ARE
you're not alone
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Date: Sat, Jan 10 2009 12:40:51QUOTE (Guitrum @ Jan 10 2009, 12:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>is it just me, or are the pictures dead?
zzz not again
i swear the second this thing gets up im uploading them to photobucket -
Date: Sat, Jan 10 2009 18:00:56
yep, they're dead again, lol. but I still managed to make it without them xD
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Date: Sat, Jan 10 2009 19:44:40QUOTE (FrozenIce @ Dec 28 2008, 04:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Yes, you use the metal-tipped G3 for this mod and I believe it has an 0.5 mm point.
At Jetpens, they have 0.38 G-3s with metal tips... -
Date: Fri, Jan 23 2009 16:12:21
you would be able to made this mod with 1 mm g3s correct?
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Date: Sat, Jan 24 2009 06:21:15
What are those grips the the very right of the cap (the black ones that aren't from the KT grips [are they from profiles?])
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Date: Sat, Jan 24 2009 16:16:54QUOTE (Commsa @ Jan 24 2009, 02:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>What are those grips the the very right of the cap (the black ones that aren't from the KT grips [are they from profiles?])
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Date: Tue, Jan 27 2009 21:44:29
not really, they are profiles^^
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Date: Tue, Jan 27 2009 22:15:08
Really? Then that makes it a whole bunch easier for me! Thanks F1r3fly!
Oh, and BTW, what can i sub for the grip matic tip? -
Date: Wed, Jan 28 2009 11:44:47
i don't know with what tip you can sub it, because i never thougt about it because i can easily get the grip matic tips^^ but from the weight i think a signo tip could work, because g3 tip + hgg tip = weight of signo tip. it could work, but i don't promise it^^
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Date: Wed, Jan 28 2009 12:52:19
My F1r3fly mod uses a signo tip, and it works fine.
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Date: Fri, Jan 30 2009 05:16:44
I'm not really sure what color scheme to do for my firefly... I'm thinking of either blue/black or just plain black. I already saw Firefly's black one, so can someone plz post a pic of a blue/black? Thanks in advance!
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Date: Sat, Jan 31 2009 19:58:55
this is on the top of my to make list.
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Date: Sat, Jan 31 2009 20:12:26QUOTE (Josh_man @ Jan 31 2009, 02:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>this is on the top of my to make list.
The firefly is really fragile from what I heard. As soon as someone figures out a way to make it better builit I will make one. -
Date: Sat, Jan 31 2009 20:18:14
can you cut the g3 barrel down more? that would make it less fragile i think...
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Date: Sat, Jan 31 2009 20:23:05QUOTE (l33tPi @ Jan 31 2009, 12:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>can you cut the g3 barrel down more? that would make it less fragile i think...
The G3 barrel is the part that attaches the G2 and G3 barrels together. Cutting it further down would make is LESS stable. -
Date: Sat, Jan 31 2009 20:25:06
but less fragile...
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Date: Sat, Jan 31 2009 20:28:20
Can you please explain to me what you mean by "less fragile"?
Having a shorter G3 barrel would have a higher risk of breaking the mod in half when dropped. -
Date: Sat, Jan 31 2009 20:34:35
i mean like less chance of snapping the 3 barrel, i had a firefly before and the g3 barrel snapped but you can probably put something like super glue on the g3 barrel to keep the g2 barrel on... that is just what i think, so correct me if im wrong
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Date: Sat, Jan 31 2009 20:46:33
Do you even know how wrong you are? Super glue makes plastic brittle. (It means it breaks easier)
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Date: Sat, Jan 31 2009 20:49:42
i know im wrong but i said something like super glue, just to make it say on, maybe like some tape on the inside to make it stay, but i hear people dont like to use tape
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Date: Sun, Feb 1 2009 16:07:20
i need to buy this mod off someone
i dont have half the parts xD
can any1 pm me and tell me about how much this costs?
cause im planning to try and make this retractable
i made almost all my mods retractable >,> -
Date: Mon, Feb 2 2009 11:45:24QUOTE (Pensharp @ Jan 31 2009, 09:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The firefly is really fragile from what I heard. As soon as someone figures out a way to make it better builit I will make one.
all of the f1r3fly g3s i made so far, none broke yet. i don't know what people make wrong that it breaks so easily when dropping.
maybe you are not patient enough @ filing down the g3 body. even the mod minwoo has from me, did not break yet. -
Date: Mon, Feb 2 2009 11:57:20
How do I know when to stop filing the front part of the g3? I'm afraid of breaking it.
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Date: Mon, Feb 2 2009 12:55:18
I love this!
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Date: Mon, Feb 2 2009 17:10:02QUOTE (Kurteous! @ Feb 2 2009, 12:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>How do I know when to stop filing the front part of the g3? I'm afraid of breaking it.
you just have to file down a bit and try the g2 part + inlay. if it doesn't fit. file a bit more then try again. as i said you have to be patient with that^^ -
Date: Sun, Feb 8 2009 02:44:39
Just made it, with a blank paper insert since I couldn't find any/make one and I dont have grips on it yet since I don't have Dr. Grips right now >.>
For a sub for the gripmatic tip, you can use a Zebra F-301 tip or a Papermate flexgrip tip with some teflon on the threads to screw it on (friend's sub).
Great mod.
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Date: Mon, Feb 9 2009 22:40:36
what kind of grip is used in the second picture (the black one all the way on the right, not sailor) and the first picture (also the black one all the way on the right) -
Date: Tue, Feb 10 2009 07:52:51
they were no name grips, but now i use anyball grips for them, works much better.
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Date: Wed, Feb 11 2009 22:10:31
anyone have a problem with this mod being front heavy? i made one and i need 2 hgg tips and more grips stuffed in the cap to balance it
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Date: Wed, Feb 11 2009 22:36:26
then you took to much dr grip in the front or to much pattafix or glue to fix the grip matic tip
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Date: Wed, Feb 11 2009 22:38:04
well i put like 1 cm of dr grip in the back like the tutorial.... and it was a bit front heavy before i glued the tip..
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Date: Tue, Feb 17 2009 22:39:06
u could sub the gripmatic tip with a signo cause my friend he bought a gripmatic it was heavy as a signo
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Date: Wed, Feb 18 2009 00:34:12QUOTE (Brian @ Feb 18 2009, 08:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>u could sub the gripmatic tip with a signo cause my friend he bought a gripmatic it was heavy as a signo
nope it can't be >_> -
Date: Thu, Feb 19 2009 03:50:28
castell is HARD to find here in US... anyone wish to trade? or can anyone help me find one? penwish dont got it and ebay and amazon dont either...
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Date: Thu, Feb 19 2009 04:07:28QUOTE (nachoaddict @ Feb 18 2009, 07:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>castell is HARD to find here in US... anyone wish to trade? or can anyone help me find one? penwish dont got it and ebay and amazon dont either...
It is easily obtainable in Europe. Trade with someone who lives there. -
Date: Thu, Feb 19 2009 10:06:18QUOTE (penmaster @ Feb 17 2009, 04:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>nope it can't be >_>
Yes it can, just the appearance would look different. -
Date: Thu, Feb 19 2009 13:36:15QUOTE (nachoaddict @ Feb 19 2009, 12:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>castell is HARD to find here in US... anyone wish to trade? or can anyone help me find one? penwish dont got it and ebay and amazon dont either...QUOTE (CaliMartinio @ Feb 19 2009, 07:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Yes it can, just the appearance would look different.
signo and gripmatic doesn't weigh any closer >_> -
Date: Sat, Feb 21 2009 20:33:04
is it just me or the pics arent working again
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Date: Sat, Feb 21 2009 20:36:49QUOTE (KimD @ Feb 21 2009, 04:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>is it just me or the pics arent working again
yeah i got the same problem -
Date: Sat, Feb 21 2009 22:24:39
i also have a question
when i put the tip (i used signo) on the cut inktube, the point comes out of it.
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Date: Sat, Feb 21 2009 22:27:07
How did you attach it? If you used teflon tape, just wrap more around it so the tip can't go on as much. If you used some sort of glue, use more as well.
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Date: Sat, Feb 21 2009 22:43:27QUOTE (HKspinner @ Feb 19 2009, 05:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I can't seem to put the g2 barrel and g3 barrel together, won't budge.
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Date: Sun, Feb 22 2009 02:25:07
so I CAN sub signo in? I dun care so much about weight atm...
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Date: Sun, Feb 22 2009 14:18:35QUOTE (nachoaddict @ Feb 21 2009, 09:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>so I CAN sub signo in? I dun care so much about weight atm...
yeah u can i just did and it worked
DUDE MY G3 BODY KEEPS CRACKING WHEN I SAND IT I BROKE 2 SO FAR!
AND I HAVE TO SAND IT DOWN DO MUCH FOR THE INSERT AND THE G2 BODY TO FIT!!!!
ITS FUSTRATING ME!!!!
oh yeah any1 have a good black based insert for this mod? (like it can have some white or gray or w/e but only black with white or gray no other colors) -
Date: Sat, Feb 28 2009 19:51:56
when i made this pen the balance was almost near the front it was 3 cm of the rungs of the g2 barrel. Is that right?
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Date: Sat, Feb 28 2009 23:23:06
wtf O_O cog is cop. you must have done something wrong?_?
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Date: Sun, Mar 1 2009 01:24:57
ok this what i did cut the ink barrel to 7.4 cm , g2 barrel= 5.6 cm , g3 barrel is 11 cm i have the g3 cap with tip and hgg tip in side with grip
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Date: Sun, Mar 1 2009 07:54:37
Just out of curiousity, does anyone know any possible subs for a Gripmatic tip besides Signo? Im kinda broke here..spent 32$ at Penwish
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Date: Sun, Mar 1 2009 08:06:20QUOTE (Ilvdrftng @ Feb 28 2009, 11:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Just out of curiousity, does anyone know any possible subs for a Gripmatic tip besides Signo? Im kinda broke here..spent 32$ at Penwish
Zebra F-301
the weights pretty much the same
but its a bit longer so the cog might change -
Date: Sun, Mar 1 2009 08:08:07QUOTE (Brian @ Feb 28 2009, 05:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>ok this what i did cut the ink barrel to 7.4 cm , g2 barrel= 5.6 cm , g3 barrel is 11 cm i have the g3 cap with tip and hgg tip in side with grip
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Date: Sun, Mar 1 2009 15:15:37
how do you sand the g3 barrel perfectly? my thing keeps breaking
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Date: Sun, Mar 1 2009 16:31:36
My g2 barrel is facing to the g3 cap
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Date: Sun, Mar 1 2009 17:00:49QUOTE (Shimo @ Mar 1 2009, 07:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>how do you sand the g3 barrel perfectly? my thing keeps breaking
an alternate to cutting is g3 barrel is filing the front, if you cut it it may leave tiny cracks that you will not see, and while you file, it may break the front of the G3 barrel. filing the front of the g3 barrel instead of cutting it is slower but surer. the front of my g3 barrel has cracks, but its hidden by the insert and g2 barrel, and it still hasn't broke yet. didn't break after my sister threw it at the wall when she was mad, either. (but my SoCal MX did ) -
Date: Sun, Mar 1 2009 23:12:49QUOTE (Brian @ Mar 1 2009, 08:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>My g2 barrel is facing to the g3 cap
Then the balance is about right. But depending on if you used a Signo tip, it will be a bit back end heavy.
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Date: Sat, Mar 21 2009 06:33:49QUOTE (dxchsdrgo @ Mar 1 2009, 01:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Zebra F-301
the weights pretty much the same
but its a bit longer so the cog might change
Thanks dxchsdrgo! I've been looking for a Gripmatic-sub-that's-not-a-Signo :3 -
Date: Sat, Mar 21 2009 22:18:30QUOTE (FrozenIce @ Mar 1 2009, 07:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Then the balance is about right. But depending on if you used a Signo tip, it will be a bit back end heavy.
To solve all your complaints with the sub, the easiest thing is to use a signo tip, with a lot of tape/tac on the g2 inktube so the tip of it wont stick through the signo tip, and dont put an hgg tip in the back. simple as that. -
Date: Sun, Mar 22 2009 02:45:16
cool mod.i have all pens except the Faber Castell. wish i could gwt that
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Date: Tue, Apr 21 2009 20:11:00
Hi F1r3Fly.
I'm Henxu from SPSC.
I have translated your amazing tutorial to Spanish.
Hope you don't mind. If you think that I must remove it, just send me a PM.
Regards from Spsc.
Henxu, -
Date: Thu, May 7 2009 00:54:37
finally made one i got it writable
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Date: Thu, May 7 2009 03:43:00
gah id so make this if u still had a g3
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Date: Sun, May 24 2009 13:52:18
If the pictures ever go down again go to the wiki.
will an airfit tip work? -
Date: Sun, May 24 2009 14:28:40
i love this mod!!!!
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Date: Tue, May 26 2009 22:05:34QUOTE (J3Z @ May 24 2009, 09:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>If the pictures ever go down again go to the wiki.
will an airfit tip work?
i used a dr. grip tip but then you would have to make sure its balanceedd... -
Date: Tue, May 26 2009 23:54:41QUOTE (J3Z @ May 24 2009, 06:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>If the pictures ever go down again go to the wiki.
will an airfit tip work?
um... airfit isn't even close to the same weight as a signo+hgg. The pen is already pretty heavy. We don't need to make it uberly heavy ok.
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Date: Wed, May 27 2009 00:21:32QUOTE (buhryan @ May 26 2009, 04:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>um... airfit isn't even close to the same weight as a signo+hgg. The pen is already pretty heavy. We don't need to make it uberly heavy ok.
But that's my opinion, if you like it with airfit tip, go ahead.
What he said man; Airfit tip is WAAAAY heavier than a Dr.Grip tip, and those two are way heavier than a Gripmatic. If you seriously want to find a sub, teflon tape an HGG tip onto a signo tip, that just about right. -
Date: Thu, May 28 2009 16:45:35
OMG, I was going to make this penmod , (I had translated into Spanish on SPSC) but, there are no images
F1r3Fly, can you reupload them? Thanks. -
Date: Fri, May 29 2009 12:54:34
Can a Dr. Grip COG be used to make this?
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Date: Fri, May 29 2009 13:40:03QUOTE (Chobi @ May 29 2009, 07:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Can a Dr. Grip COG be used to make this?
I think as long as its a Dr. Grip that looks like the dr grip shaker. Its okay.
thats why they're called subs.
It doesn't matter if it looks different you know. You don't have to follow everything there. -
Date: Sat, May 30 2009 18:20:10
here is my knock off of f1r3fly's insert. I know I should put this on show off your inserts but sinve this is only for this mod i thought it should go here
feel free to use these
they are not seamless +sigh+ -
Date: Sun, May 31 2009 21:46:51
nice inlays^^ really like it
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Date: Tue, Jun 2 2009 15:16:32
would flex grip tip work to sub the gripmatic?
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Date: Wed, Jun 3 2009 22:14:59QUOTE (Dezin @ Jun 2 2009, 11:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>would flex grip tip work to sub the gripmatic?
Flexgrip tip would work, if you add more weight to the front or subtract weight from the back. Actually, a Flexgrip tip would look quite well on a F1R3Fly because of its long slanted tip part, just like what the Gripmatic tip has. Signo however, has a shorter slanted tip part, making it less aesthetically pleasing than a Gripmatic or a Flexgrip tip. -
Date: Thu, Jun 4 2009 14:15:30QUOTE (Null @ Jun 3 2009, 08:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Flexgrip tip would work, if you add more weight to the front or subtract weight from the back. Actually, a Flexgrip tip would look quite well on a F1R3Fly because of its long slanted tip part, just like what the Gripmatic tip has. Signo however, has a shorter slanted tip part, making it less aesthetically pleasing than a Gripmatic or a Flexgrip tip.
yh thats what i thought
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Date: Thu, Jun 18 2009 18:15:10
should i use an electric sander or just normal sand paper?
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Date: Thu, Jun 18 2009 18:18:44QUOTE (duckfun @ Jun 18 2009, 01:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>should i use an electric sander or just normal sand paper?
normal sand paper electric sander may break the plastic of the g3 -
Date: Mon, Oct 26 2009 23:33:51
Now that Penwish has gripamtics I can make this mod! Woot. I Can't wait!
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Date: Tue, Oct 27 2009 22:11:04
any help on gettnig the g3 grip off i cant get it off
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Date: Tue, Oct 27 2009 22:15:57
cut it off... its really difficult otherwise
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Date: Sat, Oct 31 2009 23:29:56QUOTE (golfer1555 @ Oct 27 2009, 03:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>any help on gettnig the g3 grip off i cant get it off
I took a safety pin and stuck it under the grip at the top and the bottom to loosen it. The needly will poke a whole outward from the grip and then I twisted it making small holes. Eventually, I just tore the grip off with no damage to the barrel. It's best to start making the whole near the uprisings in the barrel that keep the grip in place.
Do I cut the G3 with scissors? It seems as if the body will crack. -
Date: Sat, Oct 31 2009 23:36:52QUOTE (Archermitch @ Oct 31 2009, 07:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I took a safety pin and stuck it under the grip at the top and the bottom to loosen it. The needly will poke a whole outward from the grip and then I twisted it making small holes. Eventually, I just tore the grip off with no damage to the barrel. It's best to start making the whole near the uprisings in the barrel that keep the grip in place.
Do I cut the G3 with scissors? It seems as if the body will crack.
use a dremel or a saw scissors will crack the body -
Date: Sat, Oct 31 2009 23:40:23QUOTE (teotoko @ Oct 31 2009, 04:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>use a dremel or a saw scissors will crack the body
good thing I asked. Thank you.
I find that the back of my mod is a little light compared to the front. -
Date: Tue, Nov 3 2009 15:06:38QUOTE (teotoko @ Nov 1 2009, 01:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>use a dremel or a saw scissors will crack the body
I use these for almost all kinds of cutting. Also used these when cutting G3.
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Date: Thu, Nov 5 2009 19:06:05
Umm look like gardening tools to me Sacatuers
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Date: Sat, Nov 21 2009 02:14:24QUOTE (F1r3Fly @ Oct 2 2008, 05:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>hi guys, now i found time to translate the tutorial and post it here, so here is it:
Foreword:
I searched a long time for a mod which spins like a Double Capped mod and looks like a Single Capped mod. After many trys i reached my aims with this mod. i am very proud of this pen.
What you need:
Pens:
-1 Pilot G3 (everything except Grip and Backplug)
-1 G2 (body)
-1 Faber Castell Grip Matic Tip
-1 Hgg (Tip+Grip)
-1 Dr.Grip Shaker Japanese (Grip)
-1 Sailor Gel or Sailor Gel Fake (Grip)
Tools:
- File or Sandpaper
- Nail or Toothpick (to get inner thing out of Grip Matic Tip)
- Tape
- Saw
- Uhu Pattafix or Hot Glue or something similar
- cutter or x-acto knife
Tutorial:
First of all decompose the G3 and cut the G3 body like it is shown in the picture. be sure to file down the small uprisings where the Body begins. if you don't do that, you will have a gap between G3 and G2 body. now you can put the inlay in the g3 body.
Spoiler:
Cut the G2 body at 5,6 cm, like it is shown in the picture:
Spoiler:
Cut the G3 inktube to 7.4 cm (measured from the inktube tip), after that wash it out ( do it very accurate. it may look clean but it isn't^^ )
now take some tape and put it on the g3 ink tube ( right side on the picture ), so that it fits in the g3 body.
Spoiler:
Now get the "mechanism"of the Gripmatic Tip out ( therefore use the nail or toothpick) and Glue The g3 inktube in it (patafix/hot glue)
After that you can cut the Dr grip grip, you need about 2,7 cm to 2,9 cm of the dr grip grip. i used for the 3 grips : 1,3 + 0,8 + 0,7 cm. Put the sailor grips between the dr grip grips. then print out the insert. this are all the parts you should have at this point:
Spoiler:
Put the inlay and the ink tube, with the tip on it, in the G2 body:
Spoiler:
Now put the G2 and the G3 body together. The G3 body must be !!! between !!! Insert and Inktube
Spoiler:
now you have finished the front.
Any picture for teaching the F1r3Fly's G3 mod tutorial? -
Date: Tue, Nov 24 2009 17:45:42
Can you upload again the pictures please, i wanna make this mod but i cant see any pictures
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Date: Wed, Nov 25 2009 18:32:14
pics are up again, sorry they were put in the wrong folder xD
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Date: Wed, Nov 25 2009 18:56:54
Here is mine.
I sell it -
Date: Thu, Dec 10 2009 12:46:28QUOTE (Splatshy's @ Nov 25 2009, 02:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Spoiler:
Here is mine.
I sell it
Absolutely BEAUTIFULLLL. -
Date: Tue, Dec 29 2009 03:00:33QUOTE (F1r3Fly @ Oct 1 2008, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>hi guys, now i found time to translate the tutorial and post it here, so here is it:
Foreword:
I searched a long time for a mod which spins like a Double Capped mod and looks like a Single Capped mod. After many trys i reached my aims with this mod. i am very proud of this pen.
What you need:
Pens:
-1 Pilot G3 (everything except Grip and Backplug)
-1 G2 (body)
-1 Faber Castell Grip Matic Tip
-1 Hgg (Tip+Grip)
-1 Dr.Grip Shaker Japanese (Grip)
-1 Sailor Gel or Sailor Gel Fake (Grip)
oops my computer is messed up and didnt put wht i said in. i guess il just use it here. Im just wondering where i can get all the parts online, and what type of dr. grip pen bc there is so many types. do i need the mechanicle one or gel. does it matter?
Tools:
- File or Sandpaper
- Nail or Toothpick (to get inner thing out of Grip Matic Tip)
- Tape
- Saw
- Uhu Pattafix or Hot Glue or something similar
- cutter or x-acto knife
Tutorial:
First of all decompose the G3 and cut the G3 body like it is shown in the picture. be sure to file down the small uprisings where the Body begins. if you don't do that, you will have a gap between G3 and G2 body. now you can put the inlay in the g3 body.
Spoiler:
Cut the G2 body at 5,6 cm, like it is shown in the picture:
Spoiler:
Cut the G3 inktube to 7.4 cm (measured from the inktube tip), after that wash it out ( do it very accurate. it may look clean but it isn't^^ )
now take some tape and put it on the g3 ink tube ( right side on the picture ), so that it fits in the g3 body.
Spoiler:
Now get the "mechanism"of the Gripmatic Tip out ( therefore use the nail or toothpick) and Glue The g3 inktube in it (patafix/hot glue)
After that you can cut the Dr grip grip, you need about 2,7 cm to 2,9 cm of the dr grip grip. i used for the 3 grips : 1,3 + 0,8 + 0,7 cm. Put the sailor grips between the dr grip grips. then print out the insert. this are all the parts you should have at this point:
Spoiler:
Put the inlay and the ink tube, with the tip on it, in the G2 body:
Spoiler:
Now put the G2 and the G3 body together. The G3 body must be !!! between !!! Insert and Inktube
Spoiler:
now you have finished the front. -
Date: Tue, Dec 29 2009 03:11:06
it takes a newfag to quote a entire tutorial and nnot even fuckin say anythin xD
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Date: Mon, Jan 4 2010 19:55:18
If you want this mod to be balanced, don't do the stuff with the inktube in the front and use american Dr. grips.
Santa did that, and frankly, his f1r3fly is sex.
Edit: Or use waterpipe, It's hella cheap and the Mod isn't front heavy with it, IT looks the same, but waterpipe is slightly lighter.
I did that with mine and It's much cheaper and spins much better. -
Date: Fri, Mar 19 2010 03:53:59
How can I make this write?
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Date: Thu, Mar 25 2010 20:29:01QUOTE (need2know @ Mar 18 2010, 10:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>How can I make this write?
Extend an rsvp inktube and reverse it? -
Date: Sat, Mar 27 2010 01:07:59
i figured that using a small amount of crazy glue is the best way to attach the g2 with the g3
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Date: Sat, Mar 27 2010 03:01:01QUOTE (CrackerJack @ Mar 26 2010, 08:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i figured that using a small amount of crazy glue is the best way to attach the g2 with the g3
no, then you can't even change the insert. -
Date: Sun, Apr 11 2010 06:15:25
Really? I added enough insert for mine to slide in and out easily, but won't fall out when i spin... like during twisted sonic busts xD
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Date: Sun, Apr 18 2010 17:48:53
Does anyone have the images saved...?
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Date: Sun, Apr 18 2010 18:09:21QUOTE (Xero @ Apr 18 2010, 10:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Does anyone have the images saved...?
http://www.upsb.info/wiki/index.php?title=F1r3Fly%27s_G3_Mod -
Date: Tue, Jun 8 2010 03:09:44
i'm planning to make this mod and a baroon sc. do you think 1 dr grip grip is enough?? i dont have much money right now. but i realy want those mods.
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Date: Tue, Jun 8 2010 03:17:05QUOTE (sarugio1 @ Jun 7 2010, 10:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i'm planning to make this mod and a baroon sc. do you think 1 dr grip grip is enough?? i dont have much money right now. but i realy want those mods.
No the f1r3fly will take up nearly all of the dr. grip grip.
EDIT: You need 1 cm for the cap and 3 for the front. Jap dr grip grip is 5 cm. SO you only will have 1 cm left, maybe 2 if you are stingy with it and use the least amount of grip possible. -
Date: Wed, Jun 9 2010 05:36:50
Sorry for reviving but I'm not sure where the 5 mm of hgg grip came from (I'm a noob ^^) Wouldn't you need 2 hgg grips since you put 5 mm to hold in the hgg tip, and an entire grip to hold in the g3 tip? I'm guessing you're supposed to cut the grip, but from the front or back?
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Date: Wed, Jun 9 2010 22:06:58QUOTE (TOProcrastinator @ Jun 8 2010, 10:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Sorry for reviving but I'm not sure where the 5 mm of hgg grip came from (I'm a noob ^^) Wouldn't you need 2 hgg grips since you put 5 mm to hold in the hgg tip, and an entire grip to hold in the g3 tip? I'm guessing you're supposed to cut the grip, but from the front or back?
The whole hgg grip will not neatly fit inside the g3 cap if you have the g3 tip in there plus the end of the g3 body on the other side. It really doesn't matter which side you cut off since you have an insert going around it. your choice -
Date: Fri, Jun 11 2010 03:19:35
so i also have to cut the hgg grip?? okay fine haha.
P.S i make the tek's style f1r3fly. it taste realy good for me and also cheaper -
Date: Sat, Jun 12 2010 18:23:08QUOTE (sarugio1 @ Jun 10 2010, 08:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>so i also have to cut the hgg grip?? okay fine haha.
P.S i make the tek's style f1r3fly. it taste realy good for me and also cheaper
taste? eerrrrm okay...
Anyways yeah a sub for the dr. grip grip is tornado grip if that's what you;'re talking about. cheaper and looks pretty nice still