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trick/combo/hybrid videos
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Date: Fri, Jun 15 2007 03:00:27
When you don't know what trick/combo/hybrid you are doing, post a VIDEO of it here so that the rest of us can see it and tell you what you are doing.
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Date: Sat, Sep 8 2007 21:26:33
This is probably a hybrid, but I'm pretty much brain dead when it comes to recognizing tricks.
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Date: Sat, Sep 8 2007 21:29:17
@nateiskewl: it looks like...
Wiper T1 > Pass T1-13 > Shadow 13-23 -
Date: Sat, Sep 8 2007 21:30:25
Wiper Rev T1 > Pass T1-13 > Charge 13 ~ MA
Edit: What Sketching said works too. -
Date: Sun, Sep 9 2007 03:30:08
Is this the Weis Backaround???i think it is but..i'm not sure..
Youtube -
Date: Sun, Sep 9 2007 03:55:29
@WhiteFang: yep, it looks good. Technically, the pen should move over the back of the hand (the "back" in backaround) but moving over the base knuckle is still acceptable.
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Date: Sun, Sep 9 2007 08:37:32
do somebody known what is the offical name of this tricks...
i mean this -
Date: Sun, Sep 9 2007 08:39:44
For hybrids, there are just too many to name them all. Just some of the special ones have names. But which ones are you talking about specifically?
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Date: Sun, Sep 9 2007 16:03:46
Ellusion, what you're doing is:
Bak > IA Rev T1-T1
EDIT: Corrected my mistake! -
Date: Sun, Sep 9 2007 16:09:51QUOTE (Eso @ Sep 9 2007, 06:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Ellusion, what you're doing is:
Bak > IA T1-T1
err.. ain't that bak > reverse IA T1-T1 ? -
Date: Sun, Sep 9 2007 16:19:37
That's correct.
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Date: Mon, Sep 10 2007 15:19:02QUOTE (ellusion @ Sep 9 2007, 09:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>do somebody known what is the offical name of this tricks...
i mean this
You're doing Fingerless IndexAround Reverse T1-T1 > IndexAround Reverse T1-T1.
It can't be a BackAround, the pen goes around the exact same place for each of the two tricks. -
Date: Mon, Sep 10 2007 22:17:10
i doing korean bak..actually
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Date: Mon, Sep 10 2007 22:32:06
Korean Bak = Fingerless Fingeraround Reverse
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Date: Sat, Sep 15 2007 03:57:41
did somebody know this.tricks help me guyz
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Date: Sat, Sep 15 2007 04:18:01
My guess is,
TA T1 ~> indexpinkyaround 34 [3.0] -
Date: Sat, Sep 15 2007 04:44:23
Sorry, I know this will be a very obvious one for everyone, but I don't know the name of this trick. It's a staple and you'll see it in almost every combo at least once, especially combos out of KPSA, PDS or UKPS. I do it so often I feel like I should know the name. This is not me in the videos.
The trick:
A common variation:
Any help is greatly appreciated. -
Date: Sat, Sep 15 2007 04:48:55
NeoSonic -> Fingerless TA Rev
NeoSonic -> Thumbflap Charge Reverse -> Fingerless TA Rev
I'm quite positive. -
Date: Sat, Sep 15 2007 04:50:16
It's a hybrid of NeoSonic and Fingerless Thumbaround Reverse. You do a NeoSonic into the T1 slot. Instead of catching it in the Thumbflap, you do a FL TA Rev.
In interrupted trick notation:
NeoSonic 12-TF [p][s 1.0] ~ Fingerless Thumbaround Reverse T1-T1
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NeoSonic 12 ~> FL TA Rev -
Date: Sat, Sep 15 2007 04:55:11
@ellusion: Element already answered your question. Rekkuuzan and I were answering Nate's question.
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Date: Sun, Sep 16 2007 01:48:31
It's like an IA and a scissor spin. I do a scissor spin and it spins 1.5 times then I catch in 1-2.
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Date: Sun, Sep 16 2007 01:49:52
Yeah totally possible. But I would call it a hybrid:
Scissors spin -> Rev Bakaround -
Date: Sun, Sep 16 2007 01:52:27
Starts in starting position for IndexAround, and uses the same push, spins on the outside-side part of the index finger and then finishes in 12 at the end? This I think is the original ScissorSpin. It's how I do mine and I think I learnt mine from a David Weis video.
EDIT: nvm, you'll never see this under artificial light with my cam, I'll film when it's light if this still aint sorted. -
Date: Sun, Sep 16 2007 01:55:49
Scissors spin dude! Looks nothing like an IA.
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Date: Sun, Sep 16 2007 14:37:07
somebody know it
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Date: Sun, Sep 16 2007 19:14:54
I can't break it down completely, but those are NeoBak(rev)s.
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Date: Wed, Sep 19 2007 01:01:20
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KXGu-Zk5Q0s
first post! -
Date: Wed, Sep 19 2007 01:05:48
It looks like a Scissor Spin 23-12 done at the fingertips, but with hand movement instead of a finger push...
Fingerless Scissor Spin 23-12.
Also could say:
Fingerless Middlearound 23-23 [p][s 0.5] ~ Shadow 12-12 [s 0.5][c]
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Fingerless Middlearound 23-23 ~ Shadow 12-12 -
Date: Mon, Sep 24 2007 21:25:49
Just wanted to make sure i am doing what i think i am
i think its Shadow 12-T1 > FL TA
haven't really seen it done anywhere, so i was stoked when i did it
thanks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kg9vEmD7N2s
i think this one has an extra .5 rotation would it be
Shadow 1.5 12-T1 > FL TA ?
since shadow 12-t1 has only 1 rotation?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuqHmOFrvBY
thanks for your comment element, im new to spinning so i always appreciate kind words -
Date: Mon, Sep 24 2007 22:34:21
yes, i believe so.
nice execution too!
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Date: Wed, Sep 26 2007 07:13:08QUOTE (scyros @ Sep 24 2007, 02:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Just wanted to make sure i am doing what i think i am
i think its Shadow 12-T1 > FL TA
haven't really seen it done anywhere, so i was stoked when i did it
thanks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kg9vEmD7N2s
i think this one has an extra .5 rotation would it be
Shadow 1.5 12-T1 > FL TA ?
since shadow 12-t1 has only 1 rotation?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuqHmOFrvBY
thanks for your comment element, im new to spinning so i always appreciate kind words
Shadow 12-T1 has 1.5 rotations by default, you still do the 0.5 Charge for the catch. The Thumb position just makes it look weird if you doing it right.
Anyway, you are correct about the videos...
Video 1: Shadow 12-T1 [p][s 1.0] ~ Fingerless Thumbaround
Video 2: Shadow 12-T1 [p][s 1.5] ~ Fingerless Thumbaround -
Date: Wed, Sep 26 2007 07:18:29QUOTE (sketching @ Sep 26 2007, 03:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Video 1: Shadow 12-T1 [p][s 1.0] ~ Fingerless Thumbaround
Wouldnt that be: Sonic 12-T1 -> FL TA? -
Date: Wed, Sep 26 2007 07:24:21
....yeah... I'm blaming lack of sleep on that one.
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Date: Thu, Sep 27 2007 04:43:45
Thanks,
as soon as i get my Shadow 23-T1 [p][s 2.0] ~ Fingerless Thumbaround down, ill post a vid
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Date: Thu, Sep 27 2007 21:49:20
Okay...what the heck am i doing?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_taIcCBLpI
...and its the trick BEFORE the sonic fall. The sonic fall is there because I was just messing around with what i could do after the trick. I'd like to think this is a new trick but i severely doubt it lulz -
Date: Thu, Sep 27 2007 23:04:35
shadow 12-12/shadow still
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Date: Thu, Sep 27 2007 23:06:56
I'm almost certain its not a shadow 12-12 because i catch it on the other side of my hand(?)...also, shadows flow nicely into charge, but what im doing flows nicely into rev charge instead.
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Date: Thu, Sep 27 2007 23:10:29QUOTE (sketching @ Sep 26 2007, 12:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Shadow 12-T1 has 1.5 rotations by default, you still do the 0.5 Charge for the catch. The Thumb position just makes it look weird if you doing it right.
Anyway, you are correct about the videos...
Video 1: Shadow 12-T1 [p][s 1.0] ~ Fingerless Thumbaround
Video 2: Shadow 12-T1 [p][s 1.5] ~ Fingerless Thumbaround
Since when does Shadow 12-T1 have 1.5?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SJZXSFTlBQ -
Date: Thu, Sep 27 2007 23:17:36QUOTE (K4S @ Sep 27 2007, 04:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I'm almost certain its not a shadow 12-12 because i catch it on the other side of my hand(?)...also, shadows flow nicely into charge, but what im doing flows nicely into rev charge instead.
you could have fooled me man.
maybe its a shadow 12-(palm down) [1.0] (turn hand) [.5] 12 (vertical)
sketching could prove me wrong though. -
Date: Fri, Sep 28 2007 00:29:05QUOTE (Element @ Sep 27 2007, 04:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>you could have fooled me man.
maybe its a shadow 12-(palm down) [1.0] (turn hand) [.5] 12 (vertical)
sketching could prove me wrong though.
I concur with element. It's not a hard trick to do as long as you know how to shadow still. -
Date: Fri, Sep 28 2007 02:45:33
shadow 12-(palm down) [1.0] (turn hand) [.5] 12 (vertical)
...that breakdown is a little tedious to type out so i shall propose something shorter and cooler...like shadow twist or something. Haha
edit: forgot to set up my flame shield against the naming committee...*sets up shield*
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Date: Fri, Sep 28 2007 02:48:57QUOTE (nateiskewl @ Sep 27 2007, 04:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Since...ever. Shadow has 1.5 rotations, if it only has 1.0, then you are doing a Sonic, unless you do an incomplete Shadow. Eso's video is of an incomplete Shadow, without the proper catch.
@K4S: I would call that:
Shadow 12-T1 [p][s 1.0] ~ Halftap T1-T1 [s 0.5][c]
Shadow 12-T1 ~ Halftap -
Date: Fri, Sep 28 2007 03:02:45
oh damn,
i didn't see the half of the...uh.. half tap
but it looks like it ends in 12,
so wouldn't it be ~ scissor spin [.5] 12 because half of scissor spin ends in 12?
unless nowadays, half taps can end up anywhere. -
Date: Fri, Sep 28 2007 03:08:26
Hmm...There should be an Inverse...something put at the end. Inverse Backtap Reverse 12-12 maybe?
Edit: I'm going with:
Shadow Normal 12-T1 [p][s 1.0] ~ Inverse Backtap Reverse T1-12 [s 0.5][c] -
Date: Fri, Sep 28 2007 03:20:09QUOTE (K4S @ Sep 27 2007, 04:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Okay...what the heck am i doing?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_taIcCBLpI
...and its the trick BEFORE the sonic fall. The sonic fall is there because I was just messing around with what i could do after the trick. I'd like to think this is a new trick but i severely doubt it lulz
I'd call it Shadow 12-T1 ~> SideSpin T1-12 [The T1 is invovled since it goes around the Index]
I have an article I'm working on now that will introduce about 8 new tricks/hybrids regarding and explaining SideSpins. -
Date: Fri, Sep 28 2007 12:48:29
indexpinkybackaround-rev?
http://www.dailymotion.com/nuki123/video/x...und-rev_extreme -
Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 01:54:14
Well, excluding the twisted sonic, yes, that is an indexpinkybak rev.
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Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 13:36:59
...somebody help me..
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Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 14:08:33
RingMiddleIndexAround 34-12 or IndexAround 34-12, i'm not sure.
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Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 15:03:06
Please provide a breakdown for this. Thanks. I'm don;t understand alot about hybrids.
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Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 16:10:41
looks like
sonic 34-23 > inverse neosonicto me -
Date: Sat, Sep 29 2007 21:54:53
Sonic 34-23 > Inverse Sonic 23-12 ~> Neo-Sonic 13-T1
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Date: Sun, Sep 30 2007 01:12:37QUOTE (Rorix @ Sep 29 2007, 02:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Sonic 34-23 > Inverse Sonic 23-12 ~> Neo-Sonic 13-T1
Wouldn't it be
Sonic 34-23 > Inverse Sonic 23-12 ~> Pass 13-T1
I believe Neo-Sonics end in the thumbflap.
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Date: Sun, Sep 30 2007 02:21:06
Rorix's breakdown is correct.
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Date: Sun, Sep 30 2007 03:35:45
Thank you everyone for the help.
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Date: Tue, Oct 2 2007 01:36:44
i have a video but i don't know how to put t on here, what i am doing basicly is a twisted sonic into a thumb around but it lands inbetween 1-2
if there is no trick like this i would like to call it a Twisted Thumb Around
it is a really cool looking trick and a good trick to use to move into shadows and a lot of other tricks -
Date: Tue, Oct 2 2007 01:39:28
Sounds like Twsted Sonic > Fake Double or maybe a hybrid. Can't be sure without a video. Try upoading on youtube.com or putfile.com (or yur prefered source). Either way, theres no need for a new name unless it ends up being completely different. If its a hybrid, we have notation for that.
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Date: Tue, Oct 2 2007 02:01:09
ok the video link is... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mml33uiB_KQ
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Date: Tue, Oct 2 2007 02:19:05
Twisted Sonic 23-12 > Pass Reverse 12-T1 > Passaround T1-12
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Date: Tue, Oct 2 2007 02:21:14QUOTE (Drazer @ Oct 2 2007, 04:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>ok the video link is... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mml33uiB_KQ
Twisted sonic - Some kind of half tap... -
Date: Tue, Oct 2 2007 02:27:09QUOTE (Simån @ Oct 1 2007, 07:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Twisted sonic - Some kind of half tap...
There's no topspin in his video. -
Date: Tue, Oct 2 2007 02:30:55
Yea ye right, then it must be some pass thing like you said...
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Date: Tue, Oct 2 2007 02:46:47
I know
Twisted Sonic -> Pass 12-T1 -> Neosonic Reverse T1-12
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Date: Tue, Oct 2 2007 02:49:40
You forgot the movement of the pen from the 12 slot to the T1 slot.
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Date: Tue, Oct 2 2007 03:08:43
Fixed ?
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Date: Tue, Oct 2 2007 03:33:52
That's better.
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Date: Sat, Oct 6 2007 22:04:03
Hey... I am not very good yet but I am learning...
Anyways I was just messing around and I kept doing this.
It starts off with a charge normal palm down, then at about 75% then passes up to between my middle and index, then my thumb somehow comes and pushes it into a thumbaround.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-WCWdmxffE
Thanks
PS: Also I got this video...is this a twisted sonic? If not, what am I doing wrong?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUt5X5bIIqs -
Date: Sat, Oct 6 2007 22:12:53
The video's pretty blurry so slow-mo doesn't really help (>_<). It looks to me like you might be doing:
Twisted Sonic 23-12 > Thumbaround 12-T1 (?)
Before the pen goes around the Thumb, where do you feel force being applied? Does the pen go into the T1 slot before going around the Thumb? -
Date: Sat, Oct 6 2007 22:38:27
What is this trick?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cwFFC-rMErk -
Date: Sat, Oct 6 2007 22:40:30
It's just called a shadow whether it goes up or down the hand. And theres also a thread called "What am I doing?" which is where this should have gone.
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Date: Sat, Oct 6 2007 22:43:04
Threads merged.
@thelowguy: It's a combo of Sonic 34-23 > Shadow 23-12 -
Date: Sat, Oct 6 2007 23:02:27
I got new videos that aren't blurry on my post further up the page, sorry about the first blurry ones. These ones aren't.
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Date: Sat, Oct 6 2007 23:17:56
@xar3si: Yes, video #2 is a Twisted Sonic 23-12
The end of video #2 is: Twisted Sonic 23-T12 > missed Thumbaround T1 -
Date: Sat, Oct 6 2007 23:32:01
Thankyou
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Date: Sun, Oct 7 2007 18:08:01
http://infernoupload.com/dl.php?file=11199819754a555c8108
what is my last trick? not the revringbak/revmidbak
i've done it tons of times before. but it seems like a hybrid counter
Breakdown: Revringbak>revmidbak> .5 RevIA>.5 IA
thats from what i can tell -
Date: Sun, Oct 7 2007 18:16:39
indexbak rev 12-12 [p][s 0.5] ~> backtap rev 12-T1 [p][s 0.5][c]
...thats my guess lol -
Date: Sun, Oct 7 2007 18:43:24
and here's one more vid for ya to help me with:p
http://infernoupload.com/dl.php?file=1610931a72892b4a7254
wtf is it -
Date: Sun, Oct 7 2007 18:45:22
Shadow Riser
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Date: Fri, Oct 12 2007 04:47:05
So yeah, I came up with this yesterday and i wonder. Has it been done before? And if so, what's the tricks name?
You do like an regular inverse sonic 12-23 but when you come to the "catch" part, you let go of the pen again and do a regular sonic normal 12-23. It looks kinda cool because the index finger touches the pen two times, first in front if the hand, then at the back at the hand, very fast.
So. Is this one new? Or has it been done before?
Comment please
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Date: Fri, Oct 12 2007 05:08:29
It looks like Charge 23 > inverse sonic 23-12 [p][s0.5] ~ sonic 23-12 [c][s1.0]
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Date: Fri, Oct 12 2007 05:18:43
Charge 23 (inside Index touch
) > Sonic 23 -
Date: Fri, Oct 12 2007 05:20:28QUOTE (LMnet @ Oct 12 2007, 12:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>It looks like Charge 23 > inverse sonic 23-12 [p][s0.5] ~ sonic 23-12 [c][s1.0]
Yes it is, BUT! Has it been done before?
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Date: Fri, Oct 12 2007 07:00:32
probably by accident keke
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Date: Sun, Oct 14 2007 15:51:37
Hello, what am I doing ?
Trick -
Date: Sun, Oct 14 2007 16:23:06
@ FireFaith's combo: Isn't it more of a Psuedo Sonic, intrrupted before it really starts, -> Sonic?
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Date: Sun, Oct 14 2007 17:18:05QUOTE (branix @ Oct 14 2007, 10:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hello, what am I doing ?Hey cool trick, I've actually been working on some new hybrids involving this trick and other tricks like it, and have been working developing them into a somewhat new set of tricks [SideSpins and variations]. I hope to have the article on them up soon.
Trick
The trick in your video, I call an Inverse SideSpin 12-12. -
Date: Sun, Oct 14 2007 18:11:11
I call this Fake IA rev 12-12. I can do else Fake IA normal 12-12, it looks like IS normal (zombo style) 12-12 0.5
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Date: Sun, Oct 14 2007 21:32:23QUOTE (Flip @ Oct 14 2007, 11:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hey cool trick, I've actually been working on some new hybrids involving this trick and other tricks like it, and have been working developing them into a somewhat new set of tricks [SideSpins and variations]. I hope to have the article on them up soon.
The trick in your video, I call an Inverse SideSpin 12-12.
Inverse ? So, how Normal SideSpin 12-12 looks ? -
Date: Thu, Oct 18 2007 11:35:04
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNmqzSXuPSI
what's that?
devils around x2 ?
spread 33 ?
O.o -
Date: Thu, Oct 18 2007 12:07:47QUOTE (patrick @ Oct 18 2007, 06:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Devil's Around 23-23 ~> MidBack Reverse 23-23 -
Date: Thu, Oct 18 2007 12:32:58
What is the name of this trick?
Youtube
Twisted Sonic 34-23 -> Reverse Pass 23-12 -
Date: Thu, Oct 18 2007 13:36:24
Twisted Sonic 34-23 -> Reverse Pass 23-12
Though it would become a Triple Charge if you went down the hand too, by doing Warped Sonic 12-23 -> Pass 23-34 after that. -
Date: Fri, Oct 19 2007 08:30:49
What is this trick?
i kinda started trying neoback, but i thought neoback had to spin on the back of your hand
and this one spins like a korean bak, but it still doesnt go round the finger, cos i pull it in...
i also thought that neoback was a palmdown trick, though im obviously doing side-palm....
Sow..... i don't know... what is it...?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys4oKchAKwo -
Date: Fri, Oct 19 2007 09:32:14QUOTE (CrancK @ Oct 19 2007, 01:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>What is this trick?
i kinda started trying neoback, but i thought neoback had to spin on the back of your hand
and this one spins like a korean bak, but it still doesnt go round the finger, cos i pull it in...
i also thought that neoback was a palmdown trick, though im obviously doing side-palm....
Sow..... i don't know... what is it...?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys4oKchAKwo
if you could slow it down that'd be great.
but it just looks like a korean style neobak. -
Date: Fri, Oct 19 2007 23:50:55
TA > Shadow ?
Sorry if it's been around...But I asked about it before
and no one said anything to the effect of what I was looking/asking
for. One person responded and posted a vid of a
Shadow > FL TA. -
Date: Sat, Oct 20 2007 00:01:03
Extended Thumbaround
...there is also a similar variation called "fake double" which i have always interpreted as "TA -> pass rev T1-12" -
Date: Sat, Oct 20 2007 00:18:06QUOTE (K4S @ Oct 19 2007, 07:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Extended Thumbaround
Ahh, thanks... -
Date: Thu, Oct 25 2007 04:06:18
Now, this isn't a "What am I doing?" kind of question,
but i didn't feel like it being neccecary to create a whole new thread.
(And im kind of lazy to find the correct one. )
Anyways, my question is how many spins a Bak ~> FL Rev TA have?
Does it vary? i ask this this, because i can easily execute it with 1.5 spins,
but also with 2.0 spins. would that still make it a Bak [p][s]1.5 ~> FL Rev TA [s].5
or would it make it just a Bak > FL Rev TA?
i probably already know the answer, but i just want to confirm. -
Date: Thu, Oct 25 2007 04:21:44
Basic Bak ~> FL TA Rev has 2 spins:
Backaround = 1
Fingerless Thumbaround Reverse = 1
Any extra spins with the Backaround would just be notated almost like you did...
Backaround [p][s 1.5] ~ Fingerless Thumbaround Reverse [s 1.0][c]
Backaround [p][s 2.0] ~ Fingerless Thumbaround Reverse [s 1.0][c]
etc...
...that's assuming that you let the pen spin all the way around the thumb and catch it on the inside of the thumb. If you catch the pen on the outside of the thumb, like the point where the pen bounces off the middle finger doing a TA Harmonic using incomplete TAs & TAs Rev, then you would subtract 0.5 rotation.
Bak > FL TA Rev assumes that you are doing a Backaround 1.0, anything more needs to be indicated. -
Date: Thu, Oct 25 2007 04:44:52
ok..
i asked because when i started learning this trick, i didn't know if it was [s .5] or [s 1.0] on the Rev Fl Ta.
thanks for the clear up. -
Date: Thu, Oct 25 2007 05:27:18
FL TA rev have 1 full rotation, it's AROUND, so it must have 1 rotation.
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Date: Thu, Oct 25 2007 05:35:39
Because of the thumb's placement on the hand, you can do Thumbaround Normal & Thumbaround Reverse 0.5 very easily.
When I do TA Harmonic, it's closer to continuously doing TA Rev[p][s 0.5] ~ TA Nor[p][s 0.5] than 1.0 rotations. Same thing goes for FL TA Rev... FL TA Rev 0.5 isn't hard to do. -
Date: Sun, Oct 28 2007 02:29:56
Err I know we are supposed to have videos but eh I don't have a camera and I can't really do the trick. The trick is where you do an infinity and when the pen points down, you sort of pass the pen to 23 then to 34. I've then see people do it reverse back to 12. So if yah know the name please post
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Date: Sun, Oct 28 2007 04:28:39
triple infinity?
like after the first infinity, they pass the pen along the finger slots with the pen in a downward position?
is that what you meant? -
Date: Sun, Oct 28 2007 17:08:14
What is Fingerpass doing at 0:16? He makes the pen slide across his palm, but it doesn't look like a palmspin at all.
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Date: Sun, Oct 28 2007 18:31:45
actually i think that is a palmspin, just a real short one.
but it looks like its a hybrid with another trick...
probably half tap T1[p][s .5] ~> palmspin 34[s 1.0][c] -
Date: Mon, Oct 29 2007 00:40:38QUOTE (Element @ Oct 27 2007, 11:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>triple infinity?
like after the first infinity, they pass the pen along the finger slots with the pen in a downward position?
is that what you meant?
Yea that fits the description. Thanks = D I'm gonna learn that. -
Date: Mon, Oct 29 2007 00:44:06
i've been doing this trick lately which is a continous shadow or devil's shadow using 1 and 3
the breakdown of this vid would be something like
inverse sonic 23-13 ~ devil's shadow 13-13 > [then is it continuous shadow 13-13 or cont. devil's shadows?]
video
basically it's shadows which don't touch finger 2, or are not manipulated by finger 2.
*sorry for the poor framing on the video* -
Date: Mon, Oct 29 2007 00:48:55
Cont Shadow 13-13 (x3?)
Haven't seen that before... -
Date: Mon, Oct 29 2007 17:38:38
I use that hybrid quite a lot in my older combos. Ceedgee is also a big fan of it, and I believe sketching too.
Inverse Sonic 23-13 ~ Shadow 13-23 ~ Inverse Sonic 23-13 ~ Shadow 13-23 ~ Inverse Sonic 23-13 ~ Shadow 13-23
That should be it. -
Date: Mon, Oct 29 2007 18:10:11
ah great. that makes sense.
it's funny, the way i learned it i never thought of it as inverse sonic ~ shadow ~ inverse sonic... etc -
Date: Mon, Oct 29 2007 18:42:43
guys is what I'm doing a new trick...sorry I can't notate it..
my hand is sideways...I do IA for 0.5 spins...when it's about to go around 1 it then spin on the index finger for 0.5 spins and is caught in the thumbflap...
this isn't scissor spin because only 2 does the push and T moves for the catch...also it spins 0.5 vertically before spinning horizontal unlike scissors spin...all I remember.. -
Date: Mon, Oct 29 2007 18:57:38
I would still call that Scissor Spin, but you could call it Indexspin 1.0 12-T1.
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Date: Mon, Oct 29 2007 18:59:00
thanks
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Date: Mon, Nov 5 2007 02:59:14
trick
what trick is that? i think its a variation of a flick. funny thing is, i landed it twice just after the video...
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Date: Mon, Nov 5 2007 03:13:54
@nolan: that would be the Halftap Reverse (Thumbnsnap variation).
You are doing a push like you would for a Thumb Snap, but not launching the pen into the air, just having it rotate on top of the thumb and index finger. -
Date: Mon, Nov 5 2007 03:50:54
ayatori @ 3:40
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Date: Mon, Nov 5 2007 08:01:49
It's an ext. TA but it has 2.5 spins, goes through 34, under the palm and catches it with his TF. And then from the TF he does a shadow T1-34.
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Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 20:56:18
I was doing this when trying to do a TA 2.0, but I think it is a TA~>fulltap.
Thx
EDIT: Wow, I just realized it is really big :/ So if you just want to see it and don't think you'll know, I wouldn't bother dl'ing it.
http://www.mediafire.com/?clhe3x2mweh -
Date: Wed, Nov 7 2007 22:46:30QUOTE (K4S @ Nov 5 2007, 03:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>It's an ext. TA but it has 2.5 spins, goes through 34, under the palm and catches it with his TF. And then from the TF he does a shadow T1-34.
Aha holy shit, how did you figured that out <.< ? -
Date: Mon, Nov 12 2007 02:42:16
srry I can not post a video
ok so I amdoing a backaround and instead of having the end of the pen go between 1-t
it passes over the top of 1 and lands between 1-2
I think it might be shadow-ish but I don't know what it is called -
Date: Mon, Nov 12 2007 02:45:12
If it goes through the 12 slot, spins on top of the index and middle finger, then goes back in the 12 slot, it could be a Neobackaround. Check the video at the end of the article.
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Date: Tue, Nov 13 2007 18:25:00
my tricks
what is it? the first two tricks are the same i think...
this is my first little combo.
EDIT: i forgt how to put it in using the embeded thing, so used URL instead -
Date: Wed, Nov 14 2007 07:34:14
Ooohkay...
I'm not sure you can call those for real tricks, but they would be some kind of Twisted Sonic Revs, or just passes. In the end some kind of HalfTap/FakeRev that you drop. I never learned which is what of those tricks. -
Date: Wed, Nov 14 2007 07:48:19
hmm.
Fingerless IndexAround .5 > Pass Reverse 12-T1 > messy as hell > TA(dropped) -
Date: Wed, Nov 14 2007 20:48:47QUOTE (Mats @ Nov 14 2007, 02:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>hmm.
Fingerless IndexAround .5 > Pass Reverse 12-T1 > messy as hell > TA(dropped)
kk, thanks, and it was a halftap reverse that got away from me... i can normally land them... -
Date: Sat, Nov 17 2007 12:51:21
What am I doing?
I could do it 1.0 rotation or 0.5 rotation
please notate it for me and tell me if it's an old trick already... -
Date: Sat, Nov 17 2007 13:21:02
It looks like you're doing a half of an index around and then letting it spin in the air and catching it.
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Date: Sat, Nov 17 2007 15:30:58
I would call it Indexaround Release 12-xx, depending on where you catch the pen.
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Date: Sun, Nov 18 2007 03:07:46
@Nike T well it's 0.25 spins and then I release it...
@sketch thanks I'll call it IA Release from now on -
Date: Sun, Nov 18 2007 20:48:38
These tricks are by leviathan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvICRP6dykQ
What tricks are those? ._. I wanna learn. -
Date: Sun, Nov 18 2007 21:17:28
I would say that they are all hybrids involving the Spider Spin...
#1: Indexaround Normal 0.75 12-12 ~> Spider Spin Normal 123-34
#2: Ringaround Normal 0.75 34-34 ~> Spider Spin Normal 123-12
#3: Indexaround Reverse 0.25 12-12 ~> Spider Spin Reverse 1-34
#4: Middlearound Normal 0.75 23-23 ~> Spider Spin Normal 2-12
#5: Ringaround Reverse 0.25 34-34 ~> Spider Spin Reverse 3-23
#6: Ringaround Reverse 0.25 34-34 ~> Spider Spin Reverse 123-23
#7: Thumbspin Reverse T1-T1 ~> Spider Spin Reverse 12-12
#8: Middlearound Normal 0.25 ~> Spider Spin Normal 2-T1
#9: Neobak 1.0 12-12 ~ Baktap 0.5 12-12 ~ Spider Spin Normal 123-12
About the Spider Spin notation, nothing official...the number(s) before the hyphen denotes on which finger(s) the pen spins, then a hyphen, then the catching finger slot. -
Date: Mon, Nov 19 2007 01:38:02
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Date: Mon, Nov 19 2007 01:42:25
Pass Normal 12-23 > Pass Reverse 23-12 > Pass Normal 12-23 > Pass Reverse 23-12 > Pass Normal 12-23 > Pass Reverse 23-12.
If you aren't holding onto the pen at all times, you're just doing Passarounds. -
Date: Mon, Nov 19 2007 01:50:08
ah, kay thanks.
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Date: Mon, Nov 19 2007 02:06:34QUOTE (sketching @ Nov 19 2007, 09:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Pass Normal 12-23 > Pass Reverse 23-12 > Pass Normal 12-23 > Pass Reverse 23-12 > Pass Normal 12-23 > Pass Reverse 23-12.LOL.
I couldn't believe what you wrote and had to check with the video. It turns out, you're right. Ahaha.
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Date: Sun, Dec 2 2007 18:37:25
I'm not sure if this belongs here, since I AM NOT doing this trick!
I just wanted to know what aerial is performed in this video:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mUkj3c5RoR0
@Sketch: Thanks! ^^ -
Date: Sun, Dec 2 2007 19:13:46
@CalhounSpinner: I'm going with Bakflip 12, to table roll.
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Date: Thu, Dec 6 2007 14:16:10
what tricks i do..help me
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Date: Thu, Dec 6 2007 15:18:30
Ellusion, you got wrong ID, the right one is hz_LVL6j4o0
Here is the video (I guess
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Date: Thu, Dec 6 2007 15:21:20
here there video..error occur
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz_LVL6j4o0 -
Date: Thu, Dec 6 2007 15:56:06
middle around > neosonic 23-TF > FL TA?
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Date: Thu, Dec 6 2007 15:58:48
@ellusion67: It looks like:
Pass T1-23 > Middlearound 23-23 > extra hand movement (Pass Reverse 0.25 23-12 ?) > Backaround Reverse 23-12
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Edit: wow, DaThroat and I saw really different things!
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Date: Thu, Dec 6 2007 21:57:28QUOTE (sketching @ Dec 6 2007, 10:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>@ellusion67: It looks like:
Pass T1-23 > Middlearound 23-23 > extra hand movement (Pass Reverse 0.25 23-12 ?) > Backaround Reverse 23-12
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Edit: wow, DaThroat and I saw really different things! Can you film it again and try to keep the entire combo in view of the camera?
i will record it again.. -
Date: Fri, Dec 7 2007 02:03:14
oops i messed up.
it's not a FL TA at the end. but a FL TA Ext i think.
lol sketching: you even included the pass T1-23 at the start. he was like getting ready for the combo. -
Date: Fri, Dec 7 2007 03:19:27QUOTE (DaThroat @ Dec 6 2007, 09:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>oops i messed up.
it's not a FL TA at the end. but a FL TA Ext i think.
lol sketching: you even included the pass T1-23 at the start. he was like getting ready for the combo.
i think you right
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Date: Fri, Dec 7 2007 20:29:01
Video
Two hybrids: the first is a hybrid of Sonic Clip, the second is a hybrid of Sonic Clip Moonwalk. Help me plz with breakdowns -
Date: Sat, Dec 8 2007 03:30:59
well...
first: sonic 23-13 > charge 13 ~> charge 12
second: moonwalk sonic 12-23 > charge 13 ~> charge 12
i think...
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Date: Sat, Dec 8 2007 04:18:35
sNAP:
For the first part, it just looks like an exaggerate Sonic 23-12 that's made to look like a Sonic Clip, but only does 1.0 rotation. At the part where the pen transitions from 13-12, it looks the front of the pen somehow does an extra 0.5 rotation, like a Pass or something, without leaving the fingers O_o. It looks like the part of the pen that starts on the outside of the fingers end on the inside without actually leaving the fingers. Freaking me out. >_<
The second part just looks like a Pseudo Moonwalk Sonic Normal.
Can you re-film using a mod that has different-colored ends to it? That would help a whole lot for the first part. -
Date: Sat, Dec 8 2007 14:16:46
New Video
The second part can't be a Pseudo Moonwalk Sonic Normal, because it has 2.5 rotations. It looks like you do Flush Sonic 12-12 without help of thumb -
Date: Sat, Dec 8 2007 18:34:27
Sonic 0.5 23-12 ~ Charge 0.5 13 ~ "1/2 rotation" 13-12 ~ Charge 12
That little 0.5 rotation from 13-12 doesn't really have a name that I know of. It's like a NeoSonic 12-12...kind of. >_<
Edit: see here for more thought on the subject. -
Date: Sat, Dec 8 2007 20:50:36
okay lol, screwed up last post (SOORRRYY!!!!).... what's this? what's the index finger flippy part called?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVgdZuBuC2A -
Date: Sat, Dec 8 2007 23:24:06
I think breakdown of this combo is Twisted Sonic 23-12 > Pass reverse 12-T1 > Neo-sonic reverse T1-12 > Pass reverse 12-23 > ThumbAround T2-T1 > Charge 12.
"the index finger flippy part" is Pass reverse 12-T1 > Neo-sonic reverse T1-12. Sometimes it is called Gunman or NeoSonic index finger variation. But I'm not sure. -
Date: Sun, Dec 9 2007 00:39:54
Yeah, the index finger stuff is what sNAP said.
Gunman is an Indexaround Reverse 12-12. UPSB mistakenly used to call a NeoSonic 12-T1 Gunman, but we were wrong. >_< -
Date: Sun, Dec 9 2007 04:44:42
sNAP: NEW TRICK?!
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Date: Sun, Dec 9 2007 04:47:47
I know there was discussion about that trick in UCPSB, I just need to find it. >_< I can't remember what was being said about it either.
I've done the opposite version of it, it's like a stationary Passaround. You push like an Indexaround Normal but the spin rotates in the air for 0.5 rotation with index finger bent. The pen is then caught between the index and middle finger without traveling around or on top of anything. sNAP did the reverse motion of that from the 13 position. -
Date: Sun, Dec 9 2007 21:16:49
yo. . what am i doing?
Sonic -> Inverse sonic rev ~> pass rev 23-34 ?
I make a Sonic 23-12 and then i perform an Inverse Sonic rev 12-23 directly followed by an pass rev 23-34. . mb it's a out-in-sonic rev? -
Date: Sun, Dec 9 2007 22:10:20
Out-In Sonic only has 1.0 rotation total, you are just doing a combo.
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Date: Thu, Dec 13 2007 20:04:57
would this be called shadow 34-12? -
Date: Thu, Dec 13 2007 20:35:07
yes.
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Date: Thu, Dec 20 2007 07:07:19
meh.
would this be considered an Ext. Infinity> Bak rev? Need for a breakdown just need conformation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MlZHwHSprI -
Date: Thu, Dec 20 2007 07:09:49
You left out the Pass Reverse 12-T1, otherwise it's an Extended Infinity combo, I would call the last trick a FL IA.
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Date: Thu, Dec 20 2007 07:13:21
much appreciated
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Date: Fri, Dec 21 2007 18:11:40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3VIkdLVsxY
At about 3:20, the spinner does some sort of conic trick that goes from T1 > T2 > T3 > T4.
What is it...?
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Date: Fri, Dec 21 2007 18:26:16
It's Charge T1-T2-T3-T2-T1
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Date: Sat, Dec 22 2007 03:51:27QUOTE (LMnet @ Dec 21 2007, 01:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>It's Charge T1-T2-T3-T2-T1
Thought so. Thanks.
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Date: Wed, Dec 26 2007 23:31:36
back again
thumbspin reverse?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=o5GEeyvxKoY -
Date: Sun, Dec 30 2007 06:23:11
i got no idea what i'm doing... it looks cool... maybe not xD
http://youtube.com/watch?v=LQSRL8cOiYM -
Date: Sun, Dec 30 2007 15:37:30
Dont know if you really can call it a pen spinning trick when you need two hands to preform it...
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Date: Sun, Dec 30 2007 16:10:12
oh, that's an old "sleight of hand" trick, it's not pen spinning.
lots of ppl know it (Even non PSers) -
Date: Sun, Dec 30 2007 20:51:15
OH!
thanks :] -
Date: Mon, Dec 31 2007 02:12:51QUOTE (sangara @ Dec 27 2007, 07:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You didn't catch the pen properly, so there can be 2 situations. If the pen finally goes around the thumb and is caught under it, then it's ThumbSpin Reverse. If the pen goes back to the starting position without going around the thumb, then it's likely to be Tap Reverse, aka Fake Reverse. -
Date: Tue, Jan 1 2008 17:04:42
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y8ow2sG7PVI
i've always thought it was a sonic reverse t1-12 but i'd like to know for sure
the other option would be... IA rev T1-12 i think -
Date: Tue, Jan 1 2008 17:17:07
it somewhat looks like you were trying to do a scissor spin, but then again im probably wrong, and p.s. clean your room! lol
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Date: Tue, Jan 1 2008 20:51:42
@Teddy: Indexaround Normal 0.5 T1-12
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Date: Thu, Jan 3 2008 21:53:57
What is this? I keep doing it instead of the Infinity, so I assume it's some sort of variant or other bastardization. And sorry about the mouse in the middle, I had to use a screen capture program.
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Date: Thu, Jan 3 2008 21:55:58
extended infinity
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Date: Thu, Jan 3 2008 21:58:26
Oh, thanks so much. Now I finally know what I've been doing.
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Date: Sat, Jan 5 2008 15:58:08
what would be like figure 8 in 12 slot? like when you do extended infinity and continue that circular motion between 12. sorry i can't upload video, hope you understand. thanx in advance
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Date: Sat, Jan 5 2008 16:26:35
i dunno which one you're talkign about
an extended infinity in the 12 slot or a figure 8 in the 12 slot (which i can't imagine being possible...but maybe that's jsut cause i can't do it >.<)
well, either way...extended infinity 12 or figure 8 12
it's just that when you don't use the numbers to specify which fingers are being used, the default is the t12 and t1 respectively -
Date: Sat, Jan 5 2008 16:30:45QUOTE (minche @ Jan 5 2008, 09:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>what would be like figure 8 in 12 slot? like when you do extended infinity and continue that circular motion between 12. sorry i can't upload video, hope you understand. thanx in advance
Curcular motion in 12 in ext infinity is Charge normal 12 (if i understand what u saying right). Figure 8 in 12 looks like in T1, but pen in 12 slot
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Date: Sat, Jan 5 2008 16:56:55
figure 8 in 12 slot. when you do extended infinity pen is spun in 12 slot. when you continue and repeat that motion you get something like figure 8 12. so, i thin i is figure 8 12. i just mentioned extended infinity because it has that motion
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Date: Tue, Jan 8 2008 04:32:47
I need help working on this combo:
Charge T1 -> Pass Rev T1-12 -> Charge 12
I'm not quite sure how the Pass Rev T1-12 works. -
Date: Tue, Jan 8 2008 04:39:50
Hold the pen between the thumb and index finger. The thumb is brought down to the outside of the index finger until the pen is almost vertical. The middle finger is brought to the same side as the thumb to grip the pen. The thumb is released and the pen finishes the 0.5 rotation.
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Date: Tue, Jan 15 2008 19:56:46
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qy14e5CmbVE&feature=related
Eriror did some funny trick.
Uh, Neosonic 23 ~ Palmspin 12
I think. Not sure on the notation. -
Date: Wed, Jan 16 2008 02:02:33
The pen is not spinning on the palm, so it's not Palmspin. I would say:
NeoSonic 0.5 23-12 ~ Inverse Shadow 1.0 23-12 > Charge 0.5 12 -
Date: Tue, Jan 22 2008 23:48:21
This is probably some well-documented hybrid that I never read about, but I can't be sure.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpWt6nSycPc
Thaaaaanks. -
Date: Tue, Jan 22 2008 23:53:37
Devil's Sonic 23-12 > Scissor Spin 12-T1
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Date: Wed, Jan 23 2008 01:01:13
@Ryuukohaden: it looks like Twisted Sonic 23-12 ~ Shadow 12-12 0.5 ~ Pass Reverse 12-T1 > (Fingerless?) Thumbaround T1-T1
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Date: Wed, Jan 23 2008 02:49:36
Thanks for the speedy replies.
@Sketching: Is Twisted Sonic 23-12 ~ Shadow 12-23 a Devil's Sonic?
And the thumbaround at the end was FL. At least, I tried to make it fingerless. -
Date: Wed, Jan 23 2008 03:37:51QUOTE (Ryuukohaden @ Jan 22 2008, 09:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Thanks for the speedy replies.
@Sketching: Is Twisted Sonic 23-12 ~ Shadow 12-23 a Devil's Sonic?
And the thumbaround at the end was FL. At least, I tried to make it fingerless.
A normal Devil's Shadow is Twisted Sonic 23-12 ~ Shadow Still 12-12. -
Date: Wed, Jan 23 2008 04:10:52
@Colt: no. Devil's Shadow is quite different than Devil's Sonic.
@Ryuukohaden: Here are the basic versions for the hybrids...
Devil's Sonic 23 = Twisted Sonic 1.0 23-12 ~ Shadow 1.0 12-12
Devil's Around 23 = Twisted Sonic 1.0 23-12 ~ Shadow 1.0 12-23
Devil's Shadow 12 = Shadow 1.0 12-23 ~ Middlearound 0.5 23-12 ~ Charge 0.5 12
Devil's Sonic goes up the hand, Devil's Around starts & ends in the same place or goes down the hand, Devil's Shadow can go in any direction but takes a different path around the fingers than the previous two and starts with a Shadow rather than a Twisted Sonic. -
Date: Wed, Jan 23 2008 20:22:19
@Sketching: Oh, I see. Thanks for the clarification.
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Date: Fri, Jan 25 2008 13:37:24
Ok here it goes:
I dont know if its already a ''trick'' but if not i would like to call it ThumbMadness
Your Newb :*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AofFswHo9E
I cant do it ''smooth'' but il keep training. -
Date: Fri, Jan 25 2008 14:24:38
That's just a mini-combo of 2 Thumbarounds and a Wiper Reverse, not really new sorry.
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Thumbaround Normal T3-T2 > Thumbaround Normal T2-T1 > Wiper Reverse T1-T3
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Date: Fri, Jan 25 2008 20:23:36
So, I was sitting in class... and I began doing these two "hybrids."
Inverse Sonic ~> Shadow 13-12
and...
Inverse Sonic ~> Sonic Rev
The second one I only could do once, and it was mostly by accident. It all went together in one smooth motion, and looked like a single trick.
The first one I was able to replicate over and over with a bit of practice, and again it looks like a single trick, aka a hybrid. I'm not sure I got the notation right for the first one... it's difficult to explain. Basically, the inverse sonic isn't caught, but rather makes either a .5 or more revolution like a shadow and is then caught in the 12 position.
Does anyone else do these often? Are these hybrids named anything special?
Or... is it just one of those things that doesn't need a name? lol.
Very fancy looking... Can be difficult to do...
I wish I had a camera to record it on video and show you, but I do not sadly.
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Date: Fri, Jan 25 2008 20:27:12
Don't know about the 2nd one, but I do the first one all the time, as well as Inverse Sonic 23-12 ~> Counter ~> Shadow Reverse 13-13.
Also mapping it out to Inverse Sonic 34-23 ~> Shadow 24-24. -
Date: Fri, Jan 25 2008 20:40:39
The second one... it's difficult to explain.
You start with the inverse sonic, but do it a bit extra hard so that it smacks the back of your index finger, and at the same time as it is about to be in the 12 position... it hits, and you move your middle finger so it falls into the 23 position. -
Date: Fri, Jan 25 2008 20:54:56
i do the first one all the time. it's pretty simple actually.
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Date: Fri, Jan 25 2008 21:04:07
Same, I also do the first one. It's not difficult to explain, here's how you explain it. Inverse Sonic 23-13 ~> Shadow 13-??. How difficult is that Lol. And the second one.. How is it a hybrid? It's just Inverse Sonic 34/23-12/23 -> Sonic Reverse 12/23 -> 23/34.. I think it's simply a combo.
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Date: Fri, Jan 25 2008 21:08:35QUOTE (Imagm-1337 @ Jan 25 2008, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Same, I also do the first one. It's not difficult to explain, here's how you explain it. Inverse Sonic 23-13 ~> Shadow 13-??. How difficult is that Lol. And the second one.. How is it a hybrid? It's just Inverse Sonic 34/23-12/23 -> Sonic Reverse 12/23 -> 23/34.. I think it's simply a combo.
I suppose the first one is more easily understood than I first thought.
As far as the second, it's not quite that simple. The inverse sonic is never completed or caught, but is rather interrupted in the middle of the trick, ending as a sonic rev would. It's... the beginning of a inverse sonic, and the end of a sonic rev... Neither is fully done. -
Date: Fri, Jan 25 2008 21:50:31
I always thought that second one was something like...
(Palm down) Inverse sonic 23-13 ~> (Palm up) Sonic rev 13-34
The tricks are still the same, but this one doesn't have that sudden change in direction. -
Date: Fri, Jan 25 2008 23:33:51
I did the second one with my hand sideways...
The ends of the pen do not change location, they stay on the same side as they start on (as far as being on the palm side or top side). -
Date: Fri, Jan 25 2008 23:46:49
I could do both em. To me the Shadow 13-12 was easier than a normal shadow. These are very cool hybrids I like em.
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Date: Fri, Jan 25 2008 23:51:12
Hybrid thread merged with this thread. If you don't know what you are doing, post it here. If it's something new, a proper thread can be made later. Neither hybrids have names, just use the Interrupted Trick Notation for them.
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Date: Sun, Jan 27 2008 20:37:13
wat is this trick called and this is my friend doing it..... and the quality is bad because i don't know how to convert window media movies to mp4 -.-
trick -
Date: Sun, Jan 27 2008 20:40:09
Continuous Indexaround 0.5 T1-12 > Pass Normal 12-T1
or you could say:
Continuous NeoSonic Reverse T1-12 > Pass Normal 12-T1 -
Date: Mon, Jan 28 2008 14:32:41
Sorry but it it isnt a Triangle Pass???
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Date: Mon, Jan 28 2008 19:29:00
It looks to me like the pen is going around the index finger, in which case it would not be Triangle Pass.
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Date: Wed, Feb 6 2008 22:05:29
what is weis doing at 0:38
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=-JO-hu1u8nM
the part where he does the weis backaround > ????? cont. -
Date: Thu, Feb 7 2008 00:06:04
@JC: it's continuous Neobak 1.0 T12-12 > Scissor Spin 12-T12
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Date: Thu, Feb 7 2008 04:24:57
oh, i see, was the scissor spin fingerless though, cause it sorta looked fingerless...not sure though -_-''
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Date: Thu, Feb 7 2008 04:31:11
As he twists his hand, you can see his index and middle fingers split apart, that motion pushes the pen with both fingers.
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Date: Thu, Feb 7 2008 05:15:12
ohhh, i see it now, thanks sketch
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Date: Thu, Feb 7 2008 23:12:59
Would a MidBack caught in the 12 slot (thusly giving 0.5 revolutions) be considered a Fingerless PassAround Reverse 23-12?
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Date: Fri, Feb 8 2008 01:34:13
If the pen passes over the back of the hand, I'd call it a Middlebackaround (Midbak) 0.5 23-12.
If the pen only goes around the middle finger, I'd call it a FL Middlearound Rev 0.5 23-12. -
Date: Sat, Feb 9 2008 22:28:58
So a Devil's Sonic is broken down into:
- Twisted Sonic Normal 1.0 23-12 ~ Shadow Normal 1.0 12-12
But if I did:- Twisted Sonic Normal 1.0 23-12 ~ Shadow Normal 1.5 12-12
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Date: Sat, Feb 9 2008 22:35:20
I'd call that a Devil's Sonic 2.5
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Date: Sat, Feb 9 2008 22:42:00QUOTE (sketching @ Feb 9 2008, 05:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I'd call that a Devil's Sonic 2.5
Typo. I meant Devil's Sonic 2.5
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Date: Tue, Feb 12 2008 23:32:18
Sorry about the horrible quality. my camera isn't focusing for video for some odd reason...
But i'm essentially doing an infinity, but on the top loop, I do a kind of conical movement with the pen between fingers 1 and 2, then roll into the ending of an infinity.
EDIT: Its an EXTENDED INFINITY, NoRice4U heled me figure it out in the shoutbox.. -
Date: Wed, Feb 13 2008 03:44:33
In key3's combo for the world cup, at 0:03, he does these awesome tipped sonics. Well... they sort of look like tipped sonics, just a lot better. What are they exactly?
http://www.putfile.com/worldcup08/media -
Date: Thu, Feb 14 2008 18:10:18
What is the exact difference between a "bust" and a "spread"?
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Date: Thu, Feb 21 2008 03:19:32QUOTE (Look Into the Sun @ Feb 12 2008, 07:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>In key3's combo for the world cup, at 0:03, he does these awesome tipped sonics. Well... they sort of look like tipped sonics, just a lot better. What are they exactly?
http://www.putfile.com/worldcup08/media
Those are tipped sonics except he spreads out his fingers (1 and 2) after he does it instead of how they are normally left curled.
Anyway I'm sure this hybrid has been done before but how exactly would you name this in hybrid notation?
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Date: Thu, Feb 21 2008 04:00:37
@scyros:
Sonic 0.5 34-23 ~ Middlearound 0.5 23-12 ~ Shadow 1.0 12-12 -
Date: Mon, Feb 25 2008 10:09:01
he does 3 ariels in here, what are they
he puts the 3 ariels one after another in the last couple seconds of the video so you can just skip to the end to see them instead of watching the whole thing (that and i just didn't feel like going back and finding teh time that he does each of them )
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=rKNnaRjgSEg&...feature=related
i think they're the same thing, except the last one has a palm bounce thingy added to it -
Date: Mon, Feb 25 2008 19:43:23
They all look like Thumbspin Riser to me, with a Palm Bounce at the end.
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Date: Wed, Feb 27 2008 05:57:34
is this the right way to do a korean bak?
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Date: Wed, Feb 27 2008 06:22:58
it looks like ringaround with some hand moitons. But it isnt bak because you push the pen . (or no?)
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Date: Wed, Feb 27 2008 07:28:56
its kind of hard for me to see what your doing because your hand is moving so much. are you using you finger to push the pen around or are you doing it fingerless? for traditional bak's they are usually done more horizontal than vertical. and just remember that "korean bak" doesn't mean anything
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Date: Wed, Feb 27 2008 08:37:47
I'm not too sure on what i'm doing with this. I'm new to the forums but I couldn't find it anywhere. I'm sure lots of people have done it. You would put the pen between your index and middle fingure, above the last nuckle of your index and below the last nuckle of your middle fingure. You then move your index back and forth rapidly and the pen will spin in like a circular shape. It's like doing a finger pass but between 2 fingers without having the pen actualy change position, just spins fast in every direction.
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Date: Wed, Feb 27 2008 09:42:06QUOTE (Lamoc @ Feb 27 2008, 03:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I'm not too sure on what i'm doing with this. I'm new to the forums but I couldn't find it anywhere. I'm sure lots of people have done it. You would put the pen between your index and middle fingure, above the last nuckle of your index and below the last nuckle of your middle fingure. You then move your index back and forth rapidly and the pen will spin in like a circular shape. It's like doing a finger pass but between 2 fingers without having the pen actualy change position, just spins fast in every direction.
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Date: Wed, Feb 27 2008 11:17:43
AHA!! yes it is! is that a trick or combo? thats a trick right?
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Date: Wed, Feb 27 2008 18:01:04
In Eriror's World Cup '08 Round 1 Combo, he does:
- Sonic 34-23 ~> IMA Rev 24-24 > Inverse Sonic 24-12 ~> IA 14-12
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Date: Sun, Mar 2 2008 15:19:09
I think that I've known name of this trick/hybrid, but I forgot and someone is asking me about this now ;d
http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn396hRJtDU
Does it have a name? Or how can you write it in hybrid notation?
@UP : http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=-NE4KYUHuCU -
Date: Mon, Mar 3 2008 19:07:19
First Vid is an Out-In Sonic.
ToX -
Date: Mon, Mar 3 2008 19:23:56
http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=IEBFrRS_Tps
Here is Out-in Sonic, and there is catch between 13, like inverse sonic. In my video, there isn't catch in 13.
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Date: Mon, Mar 3 2008 20:10:22
@Rarka: the video you just posted is not Out-In Sonic. Out-In Sonic & In-Out Sonic only have 1.0 rotation total. In your first video, you are doing Out-In Sonic.
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Date: Wed, Mar 5 2008 16:41:48
its a twisted sonic 34-23 sticked together with a sonic 23-12
just like a demons sonic but reversed tricks click! -
Date: Wed, Mar 5 2008 19:34:55QUOTE (Susho @ Mar 5 2008, 11:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>its a twisted sonic 34-23 sticked together with a sonic 23-12
just like a demons sonic but reversed tricks click!
What you're doing is called an Angel Sonic. -
Date: Fri, Mar 7 2008 22:39:35
@hiryo- a korean bak, or any bak for that matter has a full fingerless push. what you were doing was a ia reverse, and the same thing with your mid around rev
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Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 00:21:50
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Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 00:53:21
You're doing an incomplete Shadow variation:
Fingerless Shadow Reverse 1.0 12-123
As the pen goes into the 12 slot for the catch, let the pen rotate for another 0.5 rotation and come to rest with the pen facing the opposite direction that it started in. -
Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 10:25:27
can you tell me about FlushSonic ??
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Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 10:29:00
Have a look at the Flush Sonic thread.
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Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 10:46:32QUOTE (sketching @ Mar 8 2008, 01:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>You're doing an incomplete Shadow variation:
Fingerless Shadow Reverse 1.0 12-123
fingerless shadow?? how do you use fingers in shadow, you just let it spin on your hand -
Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 10:49:33
'Fingerless' means it wasn't pushed with your fingers, but with hand movement.
From the wiki:
Fingerless is a pen spinning term for a modifier that involves a performing of a trick with a different kind of push. Most tricks use the fingers and/or thumb to move the pen. A fingerless push uses the movement of the entire hand, as a single unit, to move the pen. -
Date: Sun, Mar 9 2008 15:44:23
thx a lot bro.
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Date: Tue, Mar 11 2008 05:50:05
ermm...first off, disregard the reverse thumbflap charge...secondly, i thought i was doing fl rev ta for a while, but it seems like its spinning on top of the thumb rather then around it, so im wondering if its like a fl reverse fake or sumthing?
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Date: Tue, Mar 11 2008 07:38:11
@sadi: Fingerless Thumbspin Reverse 0.5 T1-12.
A Fingerless Halftap Reverse or Fingerless Fulltap Reverse travels on both the thumb and index finger. -
Date: Tue, Mar 11 2008 14:06:12QUOTE (sketching @ Mar 11 2008, 02:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>@sadi: Fingerless Thumbspin Reverse 0.5 T1-12.
A Fingerless Halftap Reverse or Fingerless Fulltap Reverse travels on both the thumb and index finger.
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Date: Fri, Mar 14 2008 15:25:33
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku89I7sYTUQ
did i invent sth new, or are my tricks just some hybrids? -
Date: Sat, Mar 15 2008 15:58:54
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_HQ96NctI8
flush sonic 34-23 ?? -
Date: Sun, Mar 16 2008 20:58:38QUOTE (aeiou @ Mar 14 2008, 04:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
First one looks like a inverse shadow 12-12...
Second one, inverse shadow12-t1~>sonic rev t1-12
Third one, neosonic 2.0 34-12
But just because it got a name doesnt make it any less creative... : ) -
Date: Mon, Mar 17 2008 00:55:37
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Date: Mon, Mar 17 2008 02:29:06
first one looks like T2Around
second is probably IndexMidBak. Idk
Third might be shadow 12-T1
Fourth looks like double infinity T13. Or maybe figure 8 13 -
Date: Tue, Mar 18 2008 01:23:33QUOTE (TeddyTemptation @ Mar 16 2008, 10:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>first one looks like T2Around
second is probably IndexMidBak. Idk
Third might be shadow 12-T1
Fourth looks like double infinity T13. Or maybe figure 8 13
I think:
1) ThumbMiddleAround
2) Korean IndexMiddleBackaround
3) Shadow 12-T1 (I know this is certain)
4) Infinity T13
^Saw this on youtube. I don't think that I've ever seen the trick performed at 0:08 - 0:10 ever performed before... -
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 04:10:12
its some kinda combo i stumbled apon.... incomplete double charge to a reverse pass to a twisted sonic to a thumb around to an infinity. happened on accident and now i'm doing it over and over on accident and i kept doing it enuogh, i can do it continuously now. i've also been able to continue the infinity to start the trick over again.
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Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 04:38:50
@ Xero
JapEn2nd, Key3's combo. -
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 05:34:15
also along with my last post. whats this next one.
Sonic 43-23 to twisted sonic 23-12 -
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 05:53:23QUOTE (Lamoc @ Mar 19 2008, 12:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>its some kinda combo i stumbled apon.... incomplete double charge to a reverse pass to a twisted sonic to a thumb around to an infinity. happened on accident and now i'm doing it over and over on accident and i kept doing it enuogh, i can do it continuously now. i've also been able to continue the infinity to start the trick over again.QUOTE (Lamoc @ Mar 19 2008, 01:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>also along with my last post. whats this next one.
Sonic 43-23 to twisted sonic 23-12
Those are combos...there is no "name" for it. So it would literally be "sonic 34-23 > twisted sonic 23-12" -
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 06:07:05
alrighty. woot! i can do meaningless spinning in random orders!!! xD i thought i was doing something cool. hehe
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Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 15:05:55QUOTE (toast @ Mar 19 2008, 12:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>@ Xero
JapEn2nd, Key3's combo.
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Date: Fri, Mar 21 2008 05:39:47
I (Think I) have invented a hybrid. Its a Side Sonic wich is unterrupted by a Shadow 13-23
I call it Side Shadow Still.
has it been done before?
I bet is has. if so, what's the original name for it?
and, Am I doing the hybrid correctly? the shadow feels (and looks) more like an middle MA rev. but by knowing the hybrid Inv Sonic ~ Shadow 13-12, the Shadow part is similar.
Sigurd
one month of PS -
Date: Fri, Mar 21 2008 05:59:01
i've done a few times. i don't knwo formal name though..
i've done a few times. i don't knwo formal name though.. -
Date: Fri, Mar 21 2008 09:35:30
It's just a Hybrid.
Not every fkin Hybrid needs a Name. -
Date: Fri, Mar 21 2008 12:06:20
people stopped naming hybrids simply because of the fact that it required more research when written in a breakdown.
so most hybrids are just written in their formal notation these days -
Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 06:19:41
Ive been doing this for a while and have come to realize that I have no clue what it is. -
Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 06:59:29
@Dritan The Hybrid Name is Out-In Sonic Sonic 34-23 > Inverse Sonic 23-12
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Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 00:26:48
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=o-d7eWa5DK8
i don't think this is a hybrid.
if so
please break it down -
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 02:05:59
@jamie it looks like either inverse flush sonic or like a side flush sonic idk
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Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 18:38:12QUOTE (sangara @ Mar 23 2008, 10:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>@jamie it looks like either inverse flush sonic or like a side flush sonic idk
not every fkin hybrid needs a name.. at least not as far I have learned -
Date: Tue, Mar 25 2008 04:12:58QUOTE (Sigurd W @ Mar 24 2008, 12:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>not every fkin hybrid needs a name.. at least not as far I have learned
ya, agreed
please break it down for me then
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Date: Tue, Mar 25 2008 23:23:26
ok I don't know what i'm doing, so I thought i'd ask you guys. or if its even a combo or whatever.
You start with an infinity, when its coming back up and your about to finish, you would let go of the pen and it will spin on the knuckle of the index finger and catch the end of the pen between your index and middle finger, then continue with the ending of the extended infinity.
So I think its like infinity-shadow-ending of extended infinity. if that makes sence.
I do it once in a while but whenever I mess up when I try to do it on purpose.
infinity to a 360 spin on top of hand - catch between index and middle - continue extended infinity. -
Date: Tue, Mar 25 2008 23:59:06
Seems to me like a combo of Wiper Rev T1 > Pass Nor T1-12 > Wiper Rev 12 > Indexspin 1.5 12-12 > Wiper Rev 12 > Pass Rev 12-T1
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Date: Thu, Mar 27 2008 02:30:38
quality got a little poor after downloading but yeah... i wish it's a variation of a flush sonic -
Date: Thu, Mar 27 2008 03:13:52
Well idk it's name but it looks like...
Sonic Clip 34-23 ~ Charge 14 ~ Pass .25 14-23 -
Date: Thu, Mar 27 2008 03:44:57
Well hm.
It's like Flush Sonic, except that it starts with Inv. Sonic 34 -14. -
Date: Thu, Mar 27 2008 03:45:41QUOTE (TeddyTemptation @ Mar 26 2008, 11:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Well idk it's name but it looks like...
Sonic Clip 34-23 ~ Charge 14 ~ Pass .25 14-23
Wrong.
Sonic Clip 34-24 ~> Pass 24-14 ~> Pass 14-23 -
Date: Thu, Mar 27 2008 04:47:49
that is OLD
Sfsr made a video with this hybrid the day Frat posted his "presentation of the flush sonic" -
Date: Thu, Mar 27 2008 20:34:54
okay, so i was just messing around and was wondering what the following trick would be called
(whenever i'm referencing to the trick, i'll reference it to my last attempt--the one that actually worked)--still not too good at this trick yet so i just traced the pen around my fingers teh first time around... (oh, and don't mind the first bit of the video where my brain just died and couldn't even position the pen into sonic clip position -__-'' )
it can't be shadow 13-12 because that's having the middle finger over the pen
it can't be inverse shadow 13-12, because that would have to be palm up and this is palm down =\
i was thinking along the lines of possibly a shadow clip 13-12 o.0...? (completely made up name right there, i dont' think that even exists xDD) i dunno, w/e
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Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 00:10:49
What am I doing? (at the end)
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=qI9eHCrfOUM
I catch it at first in 12, after in 23 and then in 34.
New hybrid? -
Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 00:21:12
@DamonX: Looks like FL TA Rev ~ Shadow Rev
Edit: nevermind, I think it's:
combo > FL Charge Rev > FL Shadow Rev T1-12
combo > FL Charge Rev > FL Shadow Rev T1-23
combo > FL Charge Rev > FL Shadow T1-45
I first thought that the pen went around the thumb, but it doesn't. -
Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 00:31:23
hmm Shadows u think? there's no 1.5 rotations tho =s Only 1.0 Rotation after the FL ta rev
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Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 01:13:15
I didn't see that pen going around the thumb, it looks like the pen is going over the top of the thumb, which makes the overall motion a FL Shadow Rev starting from the T1 slot. If the pen does go around the thumb, then it would be what I first wrote, a FL TA Rev to a partial Shadow Rev into another finger slot.
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Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 01:38:14
just wondering, but since my post was last on the next page, and there was a nwe post by damonx--did you happen to miss my post =\?
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Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 01:54:58
@JC: just looks like a not-so-well-done Shadow 13-12 to me.
That's how I do it, except that the pen does an actual Charge motion at the end instead Wiper Rev-type thing between index and middle fingers. -
Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 01:57:36
It really looks like a shadow 13-12.
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Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 01:59:19
isn't this a shadow 13-12 o.0..?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=F9xK9bcPS5g
my middle finger's bent down in my shadow--how would i notate that -
Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 02:03:09
The video you linked to starts with the pen part way through an Inverse Sonic. Starting from the 23 slot, I would say it is Inverse Sonic 0.5 23-12 ~> Shadow 1.5 13-12.
If you started your video in the 23 slot, it would be Sonic Clip 1.0 23-12 ~> Shadow 1.5 13-12.
Edit: a few changes. -
Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 02:12:38
haha, I've done that a few times thinking it was shadow 13 13
@ JC's vid on the end of the last page -
Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 02:19:50
ahh..i see
thanks -
Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 10:14:32
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=kpz_gnEXtuA
Is it :
1- Korean Back -> Korean NeoBack 12-123 -> MiddleBack 1.5 -> MiddleBack
or 1- Korean Back -> Weissian NeoBack 12-123 -> MidleBack 1.5 -> MiddleBack
2- Korean Back 1.5 -> Korean NeoBack 12-123 -> MiddleBack 1.5 -> MiddleBack
or 2- Weissian Back 1.5 -> Korean NeoBack 12-123 -> MiddleBack 1.5 -> MiddleBack
or 2- Weissian Back 1.5 -> Weissian NeoBack 12-123 -> MiddleBack 1.5 -> MiddleBack
I am working on Weissian BackAround, so I want to know if I do it well ... Thanks to answer, ^^. -
Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 22:40:47QUOTE (DW3 @ Mar 28 2008, 10:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=kpz_gnEXtuA
Is it :
1- Korean Back -> Korean NeoBack 12-123 -> MiddleBack 1.5 -> MiddleBack
or 1- Korean Back -> Weissian NeoBack 12-123 -> MidleBack 1.5 -> MiddleBack
2- Korean Back 1.5 -> Korean NeoBack 12-123 -> MiddleBack 1.5 -> MiddleBack
or 2- Weissian Back 1.5 -> Korean NeoBack 12-123 -> MiddleBack 1.5 -> MiddleBack
or 2- Weissian Back 1.5 -> Weissian NeoBack 12-123 -> MiddleBack 1.5 -> MiddleBack
I am working on Weissian BackAround, so I want to know if I do it well ... Thanks to answer, ^^.
isn't the first one just index finger bak > index finger bak > midle finger bak with some more revolutions > midle finger bak or something?o.o -
Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 22:54:08
@DW3:
Fingerless Inedxaround Reverse 1.5 12-12 > Fingerless Shadow Reverse 1.0 12-12 > Fingerless Middlearound Reverse 0.5 12-23 ~> Fingerless Middlearound Reverse 1.5 23-23 > Fingerless Middlearound Reverse 0.5 23-12 -
Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 23:26:35
looooooooooooooooooooool
forget mine...sketching knows best...xDDDD -
Date: Sat, Mar 29 2008 05:51:44
i never really found out wat a hybrid is so....is this considered one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-jWMvp0AbM -
Date: Sat, Mar 29 2008 06:18:49
@KsmSpin: what you did was a combo of Halftap > Fingerless Thumbaround.
Hybrid @ wiki -
Date: Sat, Mar 29 2008 16:21:52
k ty sketching
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Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 18:30:18
I Was in doubt was whether or not then decided post
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQcFLcmrhXk
Ty -
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 18:50:24
I forget what that's called...
Has to do something with triangle pass though.
DANGIT IT'S ON THE TIP OF MY TONGUE -
Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 19:27:55
triangle infinity? I think...
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Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 20:51:08
no its t-pass infinity. tahts wut my friend said.
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Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 21:25:19
I'm pretty sure it's Triangle Infinity, but I guess Triangle Pass Infinity works also.
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Date: Mon, Mar 31 2008 00:51:37
Anyways it looks pretty cool
Could be reallly cool in a combo... -
Date: Mon, Mar 31 2008 01:26:07
Yeah this move is in the rare tricks list thread but the vid of it and the way that it's executed makes it look really bad =/
But the vid you made looks cool =D -
Date: Mon, Mar 31 2008 03:33:59
I've seen a non-pser friend of mine did this...
Consider it as a rare move? -
Date: Sun, Apr 6 2008 00:27:59
Hey
I supposed I figured out a new trick!
I called Aerial ThumbFlick
it's basically a Thumbspin > Thumb Flick
http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=V00sakgjxeQ
there's the video... -
Date: Sun, Apr 6 2008 00:31:20
rather than renaming that combo as a trick we're probably gonna keep it as it's breakdown (aka thumbspin ~ thumb flick)
also, nice hair -
Date: Sun, Apr 6 2008 00:38:23
but what I mean is the tirck as one, as if it's just he Thumbflick...does thumbflick already existed? the spin I did just to make it cooler...
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Date: Sun, Apr 6 2008 02:08:36
This is an aerial that i stumbled upon while doing charge. basically (if you cant tell from the video) i do a charge 23 and half way through i push my ring finger against my middle finger and it flies up. i dunno if this is a new one or if it has already been created but if someone could help me out with this, it would greatly be appreciated!
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Date: Sun, Apr 6 2008 03:09:19
@Guitrum: Should be a Sonic/Charge Release, see the Shadow Riser thread for a useful conversation.
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Date: Sun, Apr 6 2008 17:54:21
Sorry but what's this trick ?
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=RN8CQBoSZLs
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=UKrRNorJh_Y
The first position is TA, and I push with my index.
The pen spin around my index.
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Date: Mon, Apr 7 2008 09:16:31
Is this what you were doing? Because we cant really see that well.
If so then it was a Indexaround Reverse T1 T1. I'm not too sure though sorry. If you could post a video of it in like slow motion then it might be easier to determine the nature of the trick.
If someone can tell me what I'm than that would be quite helpful.
I start in the 34 slot and do a Sonic 34 23 > Pass Rev. 23 12 immediately followed by either a Shadow 12 23 or a Middlearound 12 23.
I'm Asking because im not quite sure if this is a Demon Devil's Around. Please Help Me Out! -
Date: Mon, Apr 7 2008 10:35:44
@Slam: I agree with Tatemichi
@Tatemichi: Yeah, it's a Demon's Devil's Around -
Date: Mon, Apr 7 2008 18:29:45
ty sketching!
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Date: Wed, Apr 9 2008 06:22:45
Hello every1
i Manged to do a trick and the reverse of it using 3 fingers
but i never saw any1 doing it before and i dont know how its called
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1kb6OZHTtQ
I can do it both horizontally and vertically
so ? hows that trick called -
Date: Wed, Apr 9 2008 06:25:45
Thats just "pass 12-T1"...and later on
"pass 12-T1 > pass rev T1-12""pass 12-T1 > TA" -
Date: Wed, Apr 9 2008 09:12:09QUOTE (K4S @ Apr 9 2008, 10:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Thats just "pass 12-T1"...and later on
"pass 12-T1 > pass rev T1-12""pass 12-T1 > TA"
if u donno then am gonna call it the ANASCRASH trick xD
but the "TA" i made with my index and thumb ~.O -
Date: Wed, Apr 9 2008 09:17:01
@Anascrash04:
you didn't do anything new, it's just what K4S said: Pass 12-T1 > Thumbaround T1-T1
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Date: Tue, Apr 15 2008 08:09:57
I was bored in class and stumbled upon this... Idk if this is a legitamate aerial or just some stupid looking wierd move... but either way, tell me what you think please!
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Date: Tue, Apr 15 2008 08:22:49
well...the only way something is an aerial is so that you can do a trick> do the aerial>continue spinning
if it isn't like that i don't think it's an aerial...
unless you can spin>throw pen to mouth>and do it
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Date: Tue, Apr 15 2008 08:26:05
It's an aerial trick.
I don't know if it would be used much.
Try and put it in a combo? -
Date: Tue, Apr 15 2008 08:28:13
i don't know mats...that way ALOT of aerials would exist...like...you put the pen on anypart of your body and make it 'fly'.....
that would be aerials as well? -
Date: Tue, Apr 15 2008 08:35:38
I have been able to do a couple of tricks, pop it in my mouth and pop it back out again and catch it. so it is definately possible! try it out!
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Date: Tue, Apr 15 2008 10:01:27
Not that it looks stupid or not possible to do, but in my opinion, it is kinda dirty to put pen in your mouth or just touch your mouth because then pen we're spinning must have a lot of germ...., and you have to do it many times during practices.
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Date: Tue, Apr 15 2008 18:51:47QUOTE (Guitrum @ Apr 15 2008, 09:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I have been able to do a couple of tricks, pop it in my mouth and pop it back out again and catch it. so it is definately possible! try it out!
but it's stupid...xDDD
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Date: Wed, Apr 16 2008 21:51:58QUOTE (pen_MAKer @ Apr 15 2008, 11:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>but it's stupid...xDDD
no its not.... its AWESOME
and i just realized that you could do this with an anitbacterial shaker if you wanted to get over the germ factor haha!
^just kidding^... -
Date: Sat, Apr 19 2008 21:42:58
Can anyone tell me what this is? (I probably should know but I am a super noob.)
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Date: Sat, Apr 19 2008 21:47:29
It's a hybrid
i think its
Sonic clip rev 12-13 ~> sonic clip normal 13-12 -
Date: Sat, Apr 19 2008 22:21:11
@stickytak: Sonic Clip Reverse [1.0] 12-13 ~> Sonic Clip Normal [1.0] 13-12
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Date: Sat, Apr 19 2008 22:23:13QUOTE (someone09 @ Apr 19 2008, 01:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>It's a hybrid
i think its
Sonic clip rev 12-13 ~> sonic clip normal 13-12
If I remember correctly its more like this:
Sonic Rev 12-23 ~> Clipped Sonic Reverse 12-13 -> Clipped Sonic 13-12
I'm sure sketching will have something to say. -
Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 21:23:08
What trick is this? I was just messing around with Sonic normal and got this. -
Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 22:33:42
That's a Twisted Sonic 23-12.
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Date: Tue, Apr 22 2008 01:12:33
Is this a Scissor Spin?
I learned this move when I was trying to learn TA a long time ago.. lawl -
Date: Tue, Apr 22 2008 01:22:20
@Tama: that's a Halftap T2
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Date: Tue, Apr 22 2008 01:26:43
My camera quality is piss-poor, I know.
But... -
Date: Wed, Apr 23 2008 23:33:47
It looked like
Indexmiddlepinky Backaround Reverse 2.0 -> Sonic 34-23 -> Twisted Sonic Bust 23-12 ~> Bak rev 12-12.
Idk what else the rest of the vid is cut off. and thats pretty much a blatant guess. -
Date: Fri, Apr 25 2008 00:25:47
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYV8mgSNAog
Is it a twisted sonic bust? -
Date: Fri, Apr 25 2008 00:32:17
@Ryuukohaden:
Twisted Sonic 23-12 -> IndexPinkyBackAround 2.0 Reverse 12-34 -> Demon's Devil's Around 34-23 -> Twisted Sonic Bust 23-12 -> Bak Rev -
Date: Fri, Apr 25 2008 05:09:10QUOTE (ehntoo @ Apr 24 2008, 07:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No.
This is a twisted sonic bust.
It seems that your a beginner. Watch these videos to learn some fundamentals.
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Date: Fri, Apr 25 2008 20:12:05
hello boys here is my video: What am i doing?
the first two i think they r kinda ext ta, arent they??
but the last one is more or less the same, but aerial. does this have name??
thnx a lot for your help! =) -
Date: Fri, Apr 25 2008 20:15:11
first 2 seem like ext ta.
3rd is TA release -
Date: Fri, Apr 25 2008 22:56:15
Once again...what am I doing?
BTW, there's two tricks. I don't think they are the same. -
Date: Fri, Apr 25 2008 23:05:39
twisted sonic 23-12 > bust 12-12 (bust = bak rev)
twisted sonic 23-12 > pass rev T1-12 -
Date: Fri, Apr 25 2008 23:10:40
So does that mean I did a twisted sonic bust?
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Date: Sun, Apr 27 2008 05:52:33
yeah but a really unsmooth one...
but haven't you like only been spinning for like a week or 2... impressive -
Date: Sun, Apr 27 2008 11:23:56QUOTE (tomohiro @ Apr 27 2008, 12:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>yeah but a really unsmooth one... but haven't you like only been spinning for like a week or 2... impressive
I'm working on getting it smoother but I can only get it 1/10 times right now.
Is it better to do palm normal or palm down for this trick? And for the bust part is it an index around or a bak rev?
And I've been spinning since 4/21....so about a week, but my friend teaches me a lot. -
Date: Sun, Apr 27 2008 12:39:17
i suggest palm down because it's easier to do the around that way.
I'm not entirely sure if it's bak rev or index around, but I read a thread once where sketching said it was a fingerless index around.
It doesn't really matter imo, so just make sure the pen goes around. -
Date: Tue, Apr 29 2008 00:21:48
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GJLqjIJAr40
What am I doing? Sonic 34-23? -
Date: Tue, Apr 29 2008 00:28:04QUOTE (K4S @ Apr 25 2008, 06:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>twisted sonic 23-12 > bust 12-12 (bust = bak rev)
twisted sonic 23-12 > pass rev T1-12
That's not a Twisted Sonic Bust > Bakrev it almost looks like Twisted Sonic > Bak Rev 1.5 -
Date: Tue, Apr 29 2008 00:59:02QUOTE (ehntoo @ Apr 28 2008, 05:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yes you're just catching it kinda weird. -
Date: Tue, Apr 29 2008 01:02:22QUOTE (11Thrasher11 @ Apr 28 2008, 08:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>That's not a Twisted Sonic Bust > Bakrev it almost looks like Twisted Sonic > Bak Rev 1.5
w0000t. That's probably the coolest trick I've ever done.
And how do I catch a sonic 34-23? -
Date: Tue, Apr 29 2008 02:07:47
Well in the first one it is but in second it's just a Twisted Sonic Bust. Extremely advanced for how long you've been spinning. Good job man.
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Date: Tue, Apr 29 2008 03:27:34
what would this be called?? i'm nto quite sure how i would go about notating it
it's similar to a devil's sonic 34-23, but it goes around both my middle and ring finger rather than just my ring finger
(ignore the slight pause at the beginning and my failure at tracing the pen's path in the vid ^^""")
and how would i notate it if it landed in the 12 slot?? (well, i could probably figure this part out once i figure out how to notate the trick in the vid below)
Edit: nvm, i got it, it's just a twisted sonic 34-12 ~ shadow 12-23 -
Date: Tue, Apr 29 2008 15:06:38
I did a sonic from 34-12...Does this have a certain name? or is it just Sonic 34-12?
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Date: Tue, Apr 29 2008 16:14:36
Sleeve, it's just a Sonic 34-12.
I don't know what trick is this, but it's obvious that is some sort of tap. I don't know if it exists or it has a name yes, thx for help.
Video -
Date: Tue, Apr 29 2008 21:21:19
Thank you.
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Date: Tue, Apr 29 2008 21:24:34QUOTE (Freeman @ Apr 29 2008, 12:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I don't know what trick is this, but it's obvious that is some sort of tap. I don't know if it exists or it has a name yes, thx for help.
Video
yeah, it's a really messed up backtap 12-23 ^^'''
backtap 12-23 usually has your fingers straightened out rather than curled up like that, but essentially, it's just a backtap 12-23 -
Date: Wed, Apr 30 2008 01:54:38
Once again....
I think this is a twisted sonic 23-12 -> ta but I don't really know. -
Date: Wed, Apr 30 2008 03:11:17
Yup you got it. Twisted Sonic > TA
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Date: Wed, Apr 30 2008 06:13:58
@ JC- i think that could be devils around but when u do the twisted sonic 34-12
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Date: Wed, Apr 30 2008 13:15:35QUOTE (-JC- @ Apr 29 2008, 11:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>yeah, it's a really messed up backtap 12-23 ^^'''
backtap 12-23 usually has your fingers straightened out rather than curled up like that, but essentially, it's just a backtap 12-23
Thanks very much. So it is a Backtap 12-23 with the palm sideways.
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Date: Thu, May 1 2008 00:43:24
Is this a twisted sonic bust? Because it looks kind of odd, compared to the ones I've seen..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJHzoulQr78 -
Date: Thu, May 1 2008 00:49:21QUOTE (Craeos @ Apr 30 2008, 08:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Is this a twisted sonic bust? Because it looks kind of odd, compared to the ones I've seen..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJHzoulQr78
I think thats a sonic 23-12 -> index around 12-12. I'm not sure though. -
Date: Thu, May 1 2008 00:49:28
It's a Twisted Sonic Bust yeah but you almost pause to give it and index around push. Try doing more of a Bak Rev instead of the IA you are doing.
Ehntoo it isn't a Sonic 23-12. -
Date: Thu, May 1 2008 00:49:57QUOTE (Craeos @ Apr 30 2008, 07:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Is this a twisted sonic bust? Because it looks kind of odd, compared to the ones I've seen..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJHzoulQr78
Yeah, it looks like it is to me, though it's a little difficult, as your hand is a little close to the video camera. Maybe it looks different because you end with your wrist turned sideways. In Huroni's video in the wiki, he ends with his wrist facing the ground, just like he started. -
Date: Thu, May 1 2008 01:17:32QUOTE (Freeman @ Apr 30 2008, 09:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Thanks very much. So it is a Backtap 12-23 with the palm sideways.
noo....it's a backtap 12-23 with palm down ^^
how in the world are you suppose to do that with your palm sideways xDDD
gravity'll just pull it down
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Date: Sat, May 3 2008 05:30:05
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH0YdGQZJGw
plz help me
i need specify name and how many i do -
Date: Sat, May 3 2008 05:35:50
@ellusion: the linked video has been removed.
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Date: Sat, May 3 2008 05:45:53QUOTE (sketching @ May 3 2008, 01:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>@ellusion: the linked video has been removed.
post edited -
Date: Sat, May 3 2008 05:54:01
ellusion, i believe it's----- index bak > pass 12-23 > ([midindex bak > pass 12-23] x8 times ) > midindex bak
so the cont. trick you did was the midindex bak and then a pass to get it back into position -
Date: Sat, May 3 2008 05:58:12
@ellusion: same thing I said in the shoutbox: it mostly a bunch of Fingerless MiddleIndexarounds Reverse 23-12 > Pass 12-23
The pen goes around both the middle and index fingers together and comes up underneath the index finger into the 12 slot. -
Date: Sat, May 3 2008 15:22:50QUOTE (-JC- @ May 1 2008, 03:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>noo....it's a backtap 12-23 with palm down ^^
how in the world are you suppose to do that with your palm sideways xDDD
gravity'll just pull it down
I think that with the fingers curled like that you can do it with the palm sideways. Here is an example:
Also, I need help because I think the trick in the middle of the combo (after the Baktap) is an Infinity with 123, but I'm not really sure of it.
Thanks to everybody. -
Date: Sat, May 3 2008 20:53:34
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=uxtW17JtDS8
Can someone breakdown this? -
Date: Sat, May 3 2008 21:09:30QUOTE (DamonX @ May 3 2008, 04:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There is a different thread for breakdowns. -
Date: Sun, May 4 2008 14:17:32
What am i doing o.O
Thx
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0XLE0OVCx7o -
Date: Sun, May 4 2008 14:23:49QUOTE (Anascrash04 @ May 4 2008, 03:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Demon's Sonic 34-12. -
Date: Mon, May 5 2008 10:15:52
Thanks Frip
what about this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VOjwXut-1Q -
Date: Mon, May 5 2008 10:19:03
Sonic clip 34-23 > Charge 23-23 > Rev Pass 23-12
Its like a Demon's sonic whit a charge in 23 -
Date: Mon, May 5 2008 13:08:53
Which Trick is this ??:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROI4WAVBo-Y -
Date: Mon, May 5 2008 14:08:32
Is there a name for
Normal sonic 23 13 > shadow ? -
Date: Mon, May 5 2008 14:50:50
@Mightyboy: nope, it's just another hybrid.
Formal breakdown:
Sonic 23-12[p][s 1.0] ~ Shadow 13-12[p][s 1.5][c]
Informal breakdown:
Sonic 23-12 ~> Shadow 13-12
...if you wanted to get really precise, you could say it's:
Sonic 23-12[p]s 0.5] ~ Charge 0.5 13 ~ Shadow 13-12
Sonic 0.5 23-12 ~ Charge 0.5 13 ~ Shadow 13-12 -
Date: Mon, May 5 2008 23:16:13
Hey can anyone break this? I suck at breaking combos and im pretty noob so yeah... Its for my science fair project about what crap affects my psing and all that crap but im just putting down random numbers because im lazy...
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Date: Mon, May 5 2008 23:40:05QUOTE (stickytak @ May 5 2008, 03:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hey can anyone break this? I suck at breaking combos and im pretty noob so yeah... Its for my science fair project about what crap affects my psing and all that crap but im just putting down random numbers because im lazy...
vid*
Twisted Sonic 23-12 -> Pass 12-23 -> Twisted Sonic 23-12 -> Pass Reverse 12-23 -> Inverse Twisted Sonic 23-12 -> Pass 12-23 -> Middle Around 23-23. -
Date: Sat, May 10 2008 12:20:21
Not sure what I'm doing.
Thanks. -
Date: Sat, May 10 2008 12:42:30
@ehntoo: Twisted sonic bust > Thumbaround
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Date: Sat, May 10 2008 12:58:50
Anyone knows what taps are these? (Sorry for Tap#2, I haven't practised it very much)
EDIT: I updated the vid with another trick. -
Date: Sat, May 10 2008 17:08:27
They look pretty cool
I havent seen those ever... -
Date: Sat, May 10 2008 17:18:18
i don't think it has a name...xD
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Date: Sat, May 10 2008 18:04:18
Maybe since he invented it, he should name it.
And what am I doing. :
I was just messing around and I got that on camera. -
Date: Sat, May 10 2008 18:08:11
wait for sketching
They look like the hybrid taps that fratleym did, except held differently. -
Date: Sun, May 11 2008 14:36:57
I updated the video. I'm sure sketching will help in this.
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Date: Mon, May 12 2008 02:50:23
http://media.putfile.com/Twisted-Sonic-76
Is the twisted sonic correct? Help? I think my last attempt was correct, in the video -
Date: Mon, May 12 2008 03:20:58QUOTE (PenSpaaz @ May 11 2008, 07:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>http://media.putfile.com/Twisted-Sonic-76
Is the twisted sonic correct? Help? I think my last attempt was correct, in the video
for me it looks right -
Date: Mon, May 12 2008 04:37:22
@PenSpaaz: it's fine, except for the thumb-pressure. Moving away from building up pressure and just using your fingers to move the pen will help when you move onto performing combos.
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Date: Mon, May 12 2008 12:29:44QUOTE (sketching @ May 11 2008, 11:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>@PenSpaaz: it's fine, except for the thumb-pressure. Moving away from building up pressure and just using your fingers to move the pen will help when you move onto performing combos.
Thanks for your help. Thank you tomohiro too
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Date: Mon, May 12 2008 19:20:15
Sketching, any idea of what the tricks in my vid are?
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Date: Thu, May 15 2008 15:45:25
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsMvTsG2Ia4
i'm not completely sure of what trick i'm doing.. -
Date: Thu, May 15 2008 16:33:17
@Freeman:
Tap #1
- Halftap 0.5 12-23
- FL Haltap 0.5 12-23
- Halftap 0.5 12-23
- FL Halftap 0.5 12-23
Tap #2
- Spider Spin 1.0 23-12
- FL Spider Spin 0.5 23-P
Trick #3
- Fingerless Topspin W-xx (W for wrist, xx being the finger slot you catch in, not official yet)
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Trick #3 is iffy since wrist tricks are not yet done, just a guess at what you could call it.
@silverix: continuous Cardioid combos: Thumbaround T2-T2 > Wiper Reverse T2... -
Date: Thu, May 15 2008 17:39:20
Thank you very much! I've never heard about Topspin.
EDIT: Oh I didn't nottice your note of Trick #3 -
Date: Thu, May 15 2008 17:59:32
Technically, Topspin could be used for any random topspin trick that doesn't have a name yet, so I went with that for now.
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Date: Fri, May 16 2008 00:44:46
How can i call an inverse sonic 23-12 that after the conic spin goes to the top of the hand like a devil's sonic and end catched in 12?
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Date: Fri, May 16 2008 01:08:57
Inverse Sonic 1.0 23-12 ~ Shadow 1.0 13-12 ?
Just count how much the pen is actually rotating and change the rotation numbers they are wrong. -
Date: Sat, May 17 2008 14:33:02
something my friend came up with...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6brlp8cKO9A
I hope you can understand it...
it goes pretty much like that: you start with sonic 23-12. half way through, you drop your middle finger down, and let the pen sorta fall into 34.
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Date: Sun, May 18 2008 00:30:17
@QuestionMark: That's long been called Pseudo Sonic.
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Date: Sun, May 18 2008 01:23:28
Meh, not created by me, but ive seen many pple do this before...
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Date: Sun, May 18 2008 01:45:36
Ah now I see how you do that.
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Date: Sun, May 18 2008 01:46:40
really isnt that hard once you see it in slow mo
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Date: Sun, May 18 2008 06:15:36QUOTE (stickytak @ May 17 2008, 05:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Meh, not created by me, but ive seen many pple do this before...
It's not an actual ps trick, its just a weird hand thing. I believe that Jess brought this up before. -
Date: Sun, May 18 2008 07:46:37
i saw it in some clips and i did it on accident, it's right after twisted sonic and can lead into fingerpass reverse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QngNqr-0wIQ -
Date: Sun, May 18 2008 08:37:17
@ZackVII: it looks like Twisted Sonic 23-12 > Pass 12-T1 > Indexaround 0.5 T1-12
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Date: Sun, May 18 2008 13:53:51QUOTE (sketching @ May 18 2008, 02:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>@QuestionMark: That's long been called Pseudo Sonic.
I thought pseudo sonic starts and ends in the same position...
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Date: Sun, May 18 2008 14:16:02
Pseudo Sonic 23-23 starts and ends in the same position.
Your trick is a Pseudo Sonic 23-34 -
Date: Sun, May 18 2008 15:13:48QUOTE (Freeman @ May 18 2008, 05:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Pseudo Sonic 23-23 starts and ends in the same position.
Your trick is a Pseudo Sonic 23-34
sorry, but I'm still confused X:
i'll quote from the wiki:QUOTEPseudo Sonic is a Sonic-based trick that is effectively a "Sonic Still" in that it starts and ends in the same slot as it begins, similar to a Shadow Still.
so how can you do a pseudo sonic which ends in another position? -
Date: Sun, May 18 2008 23:18:55
The basic Pseudo Sonic starts and ends in the same position, but the main point is that is does not go up a slot as does a usual Sonic. QuestionMark did Pseudo Sonic 23-34.
If you want to be more precise:
Sonic 0.5 23-12 ~ Moonwalk Sonic 0.5 12-34 -
Date: Mon, May 19 2008 11:08:08
Please help (I know, I have a lot of doubts). Thanks. -
Date: Mon, May 19 2008 12:18:55
Those look alot like neo sonics, but not really sure.
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Date: Mon, May 19 2008 14:54:10
@Freeman: I'd say...
#1
IndexThumbaround 12-T1 ( possibly could just be called Thumbaround 12-T1, since the pen doesn't go around the index finger much)
#2
IndexThumbaround 12-12
#3
Thumbaround Reverse T1-P34 -
Date: Wed, May 21 2008 13:59:11
i wondered that i didnt found a thread...
ive got a question:
whats that? i think its an inverse side sonic...
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=UvDRXK9db0Y -
Date: Wed, May 21 2008 14:13:23
yeah I think your right.
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Date: Wed, May 21 2008 15:17:08
I also think you're right
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Date: Thu, May 22 2008 16:20:46QUOTE (spinnerpijop @ May 21 2008, 06:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i wondered that i didnt found a thread...
ive got a question:
whats that? i think its an inverse side sonic...
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=UvDRXK9db0Y
You are doing Inverse Sonic 0.5 23-12 ~ Sonic 0.5 13-12 by Flip -
Date: Fri, May 23 2008 09:36:29
hmm what are these 2 tricks? (1st trick: the one after sonic rise, 2nd trick: no idea )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VbdgZuIuNw -
Date: Fri, May 23 2008 13:59:14
1st trick: Shadow Reverse 12-34
2nd trick: Mid Bak -
Date: Fri, May 23 2008 14:17:12
hey spinners ... ive watched this video of the world cup 2008 first round best of ... and i liked some moves but i just dont get what they r
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJA0iByuyHo
here r the list of the seconds the moves appeared in the video
by Eriror 0:16-0:18 and 0:26-0:28
by Chau 0:57-0:59
by Nory 2:40-2:42
by Rarka 3:45-3:47
i will appreciate it if u could tell me the name of the move and give me a link to its tutorial if there is any
thanks a lot in advance -
Date: Sat, May 24 2008 22:13:29
by Eriror 0:16-0:18 thumbaround harmonic
and 0:26-0:28 inv sonic 23 12 , shadow 13 12, shadow 12 12, shadow 12 23 (i am not sure )
by Chau 0:57-0:59 some pass or sonic, multiple fingerless thumbaround
by Nory 2:40-2:42 backround reverse multiple
by Rarka 3:45-3:47 infinity ext, some passes, gunman or arrounds ? Don't know -
Date: Sun, May 25 2008 09:12:03
^^^^ thanks a lot
..... is there any tutorials on how to do multiple thumb around or multiple backaround reverse? -
Date: Sun, May 25 2008 17:25:26QUOTE (HARDY @ May 25 2008, 11:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>^^^^ thanks a lot ..... is there any tutorials on how to do multiple thumb around or multiple backaround reverse?
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=DT4NAJG6awk&...feature=related bak rev continous/multiple bak rev -
Date: Mon, May 26 2008 17:59:42
is that an ex-ta? -
Date: Mon, May 26 2008 18:08:45
I couldn't tell really but it looks like you did Thumbaround T2-T1 -> Pass Rev T1-12. So no the pen should kinda roll over the index into the 12 slot.
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Date: Mon, May 26 2008 21:06:52QUOTE (Duckrus @ May 26 2008, 02:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I couldn't tell really but it looks like you did Thumbaround T2-T1 -> Pass Rev T1-12. So no the pen should kinda roll over the index into the 12 slot.
isn't that what an ext. ta is =\??? more or less.. =\.. -
Date: Mon, May 26 2008 21:08:33
Passing is slightly different I think in that you lift up the finger
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Date: Wed, May 28 2008 23:44:28
I do this all the time, but I'm not sure what its actually called. It has 1.5 revs I think. -
Date: Wed, May 28 2008 23:45:26
Charge -> Bak Rev
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Date: Wed, May 28 2008 23:51:57
what is this?
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Date: Wed, May 28 2008 23:57:44
I think its a bakrev rise. Kinda like what Eriror did
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Date: Thu, May 29 2008 01:26:08QUOTE (Duckrus @ May 28 2008, 03:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I think its a bakrev rise. Kinda like what Eriror did
It's a Backaround Rise > TA -
Date: Thu, May 29 2008 04:58:26QUOTE (ehntoo @ May 28 2008, 04:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>VIDEO
I do this all the time, but I'm not sure what its actually called. It has 1.5 revs I think.
Charge Normal 12 > Fingerless Indexaround ReverseQUOTE (hiryuukatana @ May 28 2008, 04:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>what is this?
VIDEO
Charge Normal 34 > Fingerless Ringaround 34-34 > Pass Reverse 34-23 > Fingerless Middlearound 23-23 > Pass Reverse 23-12 > Fingerless Indexaround > Pass Reverse 12-T1 > Thumbaround T1-T1 -
Date: Thu, May 29 2008 20:08:18
More tricks to clarify, thanks.
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Date: Fri, May 30 2008 00:35:19
i dunno about the first one, but the second one is a devil's shadow (shadow 12-23 ~ fl pass rev 23-12)
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Date: Fri, May 30 2008 22:53:07
Freeman the first move looks like a flick?
Not the trick 'flick' but just plain flicking the pen to the other hand? I don't think there's a name for it. -
Date: Sat, May 31 2008 10:52:38
Yes, the push is done with a flick, but I don't know the name of the trick.
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Date: Mon, Jun 2 2008 08:15:46
learned this instead of ext. infinity ^^ -
Date: Mon, Jun 2 2008 14:49:03
Wiper Rev T1 > Pass Nor T1-12 > Charge 0.5 12 > Wiper Rev 12 > Wiper Nor 12 > Charge 0.5 12 > Wiper Rev 12 > Pass Rev 12-T1 > Wiper Rev T1
You put a Figure 8 12 in the middle of an Infinity. -
Date: Wed, Jun 4 2008 15:47:51
hey there,
I thought up the idea that... instead of pushing the pen to get a rotation/spins going, how about using a pull?... (like the wiper...but different obviously)
now i haven't seen it in any videos yet (though i don't watch that many videos anyway),
but i was wondering if it was a new trick, or an old concept reconceived? or whatever...
i uploaded 2 videos, one where i do the trick first normal, then reverse(maybe its mirrored instead of reverse though), then with a sonic
before it, and then sonic> pull > ia...
and one which is the same, but slowmotion(or rather simply 15fps to 5fps) so its a bit more obvious what im doing....
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=1uXT2SJYndA&fmt=18
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=qSSmalBp_jA&fmt=18
(also, i usually perform the trick much nicer and more fluent, yet... recording and spinning doesn't seem to go well for me, so it might look not all that good, also because my spinning and recording don't go well together, i didnt upload any longer/other mini-combo's/possibilities, but there are... a lot of possibilities... and they look nice too) -
Date: Wed, Jun 4 2008 16:05:21
The "Reverse' bit looks like a Fake Revese with a flicked push, the "Normal" bit just looks like you are bending your fingers.
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Date: Wed, Jun 4 2008 16:13:39
the normal bit is indeed kind of bending in, but after that you have to straighten the index finger to allow the pen to spin back into 12, so you can continue with other tricks.
In these quick videos they were all 0.5 rotation(or maybe even less) so it might be hard to see, and since i haven't gotten it mastered enough to make 1.0 rotations consistently i can't really record that... : S
but ohwell..., the idea behind it was to make the pen spin on an individual finger and not change slots, though i guess it is quite hard to see... damn my webcam... -
Date: Wed, Jun 4 2008 16:16:38
Yeah, I'm going to need some more video, possibly closer to the fingers, to see what you are trying to express if it is more than just flexing the fingers.
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Date: Wed, Jun 4 2008 16:23:17
ok, ill try and make a couple up closer...
(gotta find a way to place my webcam on somthing else then, its got a crappy system to attach it to stuff, which doesnt work well :/)
and possibly with 1 to more spins...(if i can) though ive gotta do alot of other stuff tonight(for tomorrow so then also not), so it'll probably be like... friday when i upload them i hope...
thanks for the replies so far anyway... -
Date: Wed, Jun 4 2008 17:52:03
is there a name for shadow 23-12 > charge > bak rev?
it's like doing a twisted sonic bust, but starting with shadow instead of twisted sonic....it looks kinda cooler also. -
Date: Wed, Jun 4 2008 18:52:49QUOTE (bigschlang31 @ Jun 4 2008, 01:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>is there a name for shadow 23-12 > charge > bak rev?
it's like doing a twisted sonic bust, but starting with shadow instead of twisted sonic....it looks kinda cooler also.
I think its called..a....shadow 23-12 > charge > bak rev
I just tried it and you're right it does look pretty snazzy. I'm gonna have to adopt that into my combo repotoire.
Hey i have a question, i've been doing a Twisted Sonic Reverse 12-34...(twisted sonic rev x2?) but the middle finger is up, the ring finger is down and it is caught in the 34 slot... It can be done the exact opposite way also.... Does this have a name because i do it all the time and i dont know how to write the notation. I'll post a video tonight. -
Date: Wed, Jun 4 2008 20:36:36
@CudOfCow: from the description, you could probably say that you are doing Charge Rev 12 0.25 ~ Pass Nor 12-23 ~ Sonic Rev 0.25 23-34.
Charge Rev 12[p][s 0.25] ~ Pass Nor 12-23[p][s 0.5] ~ Sonic Rev 23-34[s 0.25][c]. -
Date: Wed, Jun 4 2008 22:31:40
Is it done like the reverse angel sonic hybrid?
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Date: Wed, Jun 4 2008 22:54:05
Since Angel Sonic is Twisted Sonic 34-23[p][s 1.25] ~ Sonic 23-12[s 0.25][c], Angel Sonic Reverse would have to be something like Sonic Rev 12-23[p][s 0.25] ~ Charge Rev 34[s 0.75][c].... so no, CufOfCow's hybrid would not be like it.
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Date: Fri, Jun 6 2008 03:55:30
Anyone know if theirs a name for when you spin a pen/pencil on the top of T only using 1 and T?
I'll take a video at some point if I can. d:
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Date: Fri, Jun 6 2008 05:58:53QUOTE (mintoperson23 @ Jun 5 2008, 08:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Anyone know if theirs a name for when you spin a pen/pencil on the top of T only using 1 and T?
I'll take a video at some point if I can. d:
Edit: Or is it just considered a Tumbaround?
Thumbspin -
Date: Fri, Jun 6 2008 06:04:34QUOTE (Duckrus @ Jun 5 2008, 10:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Thumbspin
That's what I thought. XD
Just wanted to check. d: -
Date: Fri, Jun 6 2008 11:43:06
About the spins concept of crank, I'l call this fingerless hakf taps, or pulled half taps.
But anyways what it is, I feel it has a close relation to half taps. -
Date: Sat, Jun 7 2008 14:18:49
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=KRDYzZCwd8Q
tw sonic, halpftap, ta fl ?
or
tw sonic, scissor spin 0.5, ta fl ?
or
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please wait first 25 secs of video -
Date: Sat, Jun 7 2008 16:21:03
It looks like Corkscrew > Fl TA
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Date: Sat, Jun 7 2008 21:51:11QUOTE (Freeman @ Jun 7 2008, 06:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>It looks like Corkscrew > Fl TA
hmmm what's then breakdown of corkscrew ? tw sonic, scissor spin 0.5 ? -
Date: Sat, Jun 7 2008 23:16:03QUOTE (TheK SVK @ Jun 7 2008, 05:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>hmmm what's then breakdown of corkscrew ? tw sonic, scissor spin 0.5 ?
Corkscrew: Twisted sonic normal 1.5~> Halftap -
Date: Sun, Jun 8 2008 10:59:36
Is this Spread 133?
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Date: Sun, Jun 8 2008 11:39:52
that just look like ThumbAround > MiddleAround
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Date: Sun, Jun 8 2008 12:57:16
Now I'm confused about the breakdown for Corkscrew. The wiki says:
Charge 23[p][s 0.5] ~ Pass Reverse 0.5 23-12 ~ Charge 12[s 0.5] ~ Halftap Normal T12-T12[s 0.5][c]
= Twisted Sonic 23-12 ~ Halftap T12-T12
But this doesn't describe how you move the pen from 12 to T12. The Scissor Spin has the same transition and the breakdown is: Indexaround 12-T1 ~ Halftap T12-T12
My opinion:
Corkscrew: Twisted Sonic > Scissor Spin
Breakdown for TheK SVK: Twisted Sonic > Scissor Spin > fl Ta
=Twisted Sonic > Indexaround ~ Halftap > fl Ta
@ZaX: Thumbaround ~ Middlearound > fl Middlearound
If you want to know the japanese name ask in JEB -
Date: Tue, Jun 10 2008 21:14:47
break please?
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Date: Tue, Jun 10 2008 23:10:11
Theres a whole other thread for breakdowns.
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Date: Sun, Jun 15 2008 16:13:05QUOTE (Nate @ Sep 14 2007, 11:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Sorry, I know this will be a very obvious one for everyone, but I don't know the name of this trick. It's a staple and you'll see it in almost every combo at least once, especially combos out of KPSA, PDS or UKPS. I do it so often I feel like I should know the name. This is not me in the videos.
The trick:
A common variation:
Any help is greatly appreciated.
1st reverse extended thumbaround
2nd gunman/neosonic>thumbflap charge>Fl Rev TA -
Date: Sun, Jun 15 2008 18:35:30QUOTE (...pankake... @ Jun 15 2008, 06:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>1st reverse extended thumbaround
2nd gunman/neosonic>thumbflap charge>Fl Rev TA
Dont think that is entirely true.
first one i would call pass 12-T1 > Fl Rev TA. Because so there are many other hybrids and comboes called rev ext ta, and it is just confusing.
Secound one Pass 12-T1 > Rev Charge T1 > Fl rev TA. Cause in a gunman/neosonic/½Indexaround/passaround does pen not touch "pushing finger" and the "recieving finger" at the same time. -
Date: Sun, Jun 15 2008 18:46:02QUOTE (Simån @ Jun 15 2008, 11:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Dont think that is entirely true.
first one i would call pass 12-T1 > Fl Rev TA. Because so there are many other hybrids and comboes called rev ext ta, and it is just confusing.
Secound one Pass 12-T1 > Rev Charge T1 > Fl rev TA. Cause in a gunman/neosonic/½Indexaround/passaround does pen not touch "pushing finger" and the "recieving finger" at the same time.
Hmm, looks like a Rev Indexaround 0.5, not a pass. -
Date: Mon, Jun 16 2008 05:44:59
yep. IndexAround 0.5 12-T1
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Date: Mon, Jun 16 2008 09:46:52
I would say Neosonic 12-T1
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Date: Mon, Jun 16 2008 16:01:11QUOTE (Pudels Kern @ Jun 8 2008, 07:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Now I'm confused about the breakdown for Corkscrew. The wiki says:
Charge 23[p][s 0.5] ~ Pass Reverse 0.5 23-12 ~ Charge 12[s 0.5] ~ Halftap Normal T12-T12[s 0.5][c]
= Twisted Sonic 23-12 ~ Halftap T12-T12
But this doesn't describe how you move the pen from 12 to T12. The Scissor Spin has the same transition and the breakdown is: Indexaround 12-T1 ~ Halftap T12-T12
My opinion:
Corkscrew: Twisted Sonic > Scissor Spin
Breakdown for TheK SVK: Twisted Sonic > Scissor Spin > fl Ta
=Twisted Sonic > Indexaround ~ Halftap > fl Ta
After a Charge 12 [s 0.5], the pen finishes in 12 with the pen above the thumbflap. Moving the pen from here to rest in T12 is the slightest of movements and need not be described, as it is a case of allowing gravity to cause the pen to fall a matter of centimetres. -
Date: Mon, Jun 16 2008 18:17:09
a pass 12-T1 is still a pass. ending with the pen above the thumbflap doesnt constitute as not moving the pen... it's just moving towards the pass. a true charge would end parallel to the fingers, requiring you to pass it to T1
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Date: Mon, Jun 16 2008 22:52:24QUOTE (Shadowserpant @ Jun 16 2008, 01:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>a pass 12-T1 is still a pass. ending with the pen above the thumbflap doesnt constitute as not moving the pen... it's just moving towards the pass. a true charge would end parallel to the fingers, requiring you to pass it to T1
It's not a pass from 12 to T1, but to T12. The Charge is also only half a charge, thus, the finishing position is different.
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Date: Mon, Jun 16 2008 23:07:30
Half a Charge doesn't mean the ending position is different. Do a twisted sonic. At the end it finishes the same as if you did a normal charge, but at the end there is only part of a charge.
Personally I would break Corkscrew down as Twisted Sonic 23-12 -> Half Tap 12-T12 - when I finish the twisted sonic the pen isn't resting on T, but between 1 and 2 and resting on the side of 1. -
Date: Mon, Jun 16 2008 23:11:24QUOTE (someone @ Jun 16 2008, 06:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Half a Charge doesn't mean the ending position is different. Do a twisted sonic. At the end it finishes the same as if you did a normal charge, but at the end there is only part of a charge.
...And at the start there is only part of a Charge.
Twisted Sonic = 1/2 Charge ~ Pass ~ 1/2 Charge
Making one complete Charge... -
Date: Mon, Jun 16 2008 23:15:02QUOTE (Fresh @ Jun 16 2008, 07:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>...And at the start there is only part of a Charge.
Twisted Sonic = 1/2 Charge ~ Pass ~ 1/2 Charge
Making one complete Charge...
Twisted sonic is: Charge normal 0.5~> pass reverse 1.0. There's no extra charge after the pass reverse. -
Date: Mon, Jun 16 2008 23:20:50
Twisted Sonic is more like Charge Nor 0.25 ~ Pass Rev 0.5 ~ Charge Nor 0.25
...the Pass Rev is combined with a circular rotation that adds the extra 0.25 rotation to each Charge before and after it. There is definitely Charge rotation before and after the Pass Reverse. -
Date: Mon, Jun 16 2008 23:23:46QUOTE (Fresh @ Jun 16 2008, 07:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>...And at the start there is only part of a Charge.
Twisted Sonic = 1/2 Charge ~ Pass ~ 1/2 Charge
Making one complete Charge...
Isn't Corkscrew basically a twisted sonic into a halftap. So the 1 full charge rotation means the half tap begins around when the pen is at the normal spot after a charge. yes it's a hybrid technically but if you do corkscrew you find that you finish the twisted sonic anyway - the tap doesn't begin before the twisted sonic ends (imo) -
Date: Mon, Jun 16 2008 23:28:50QUOTE (someone @ Jun 16 2008, 07:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Isn't Corkscrew basically a twisted sonic into a halftap. So the 1 full charge rotation means the half tap begins around when the pen is at the normal spot after a charge. yes it's a hybrid technically but if you do corkscrew you find that you finish the twisted sonic anyway - the tap doesn't begin before the twisted sonic ends (imo)
You don't really finish the Twisted Sonic as you don't catch it. You do a Twisted Sonic all the way up to the point of catching, however, instead of catching and finishing a Twisted Sonic, you cut the trick slightly short to link immediately into a Halftap.QUOTE (wiki)Charge 23[p][s 0.5] ~ Pass Reverse 0.5 23-12 ~ Charge 12[s 0.5] ~ Halftap Normal T12-T12[s 0.5][c]
See how the Charge, rather than being caught and the trick completed, is cut slightly short and the Halftap begun? -
Date: Mon, Jun 16 2008 23:31:19
When I personally perform Corkscrew with my hand vertical, I still perform some of the last Charge rotation, just not as much as for a full Twisted Sonic. I used to get the pen fully into the 12 slot with the back of the pen resting in the TF, before pushing the Hafltap. Now, I use less Charge rotation and still push the Halftap.
These days, my Corkscrew is more like:
Charge 23[p][s 0.5] ~ Pass Reverse 0.5 23-12 ~ Charge 12[s 0.25] ~> Halftap Normal 0.5 T12-T12 -
Date: Mon, Jun 16 2008 23:44:57
Yes, the Corkscrew is usually between 1.75-2 rotations and not equal to nor under 1.5 rotations because of the Charge .25-.5 12.
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Date: Sat, Jun 21 2008 16:35:41
What is this trick?
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Date: Sat, Jun 21 2008 17:26:58QUOTE (ehntoo @ Jun 21 2008, 09:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>What is this trick?
*vid
Shadow 12-12 -
Date: Tue, Jun 24 2008 03:24:42
Take a look, I think this is how?
I'm kind of using my fingers.
Don't comment on my breathing.
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Date: Tue, Jun 24 2008 03:28:11
You should really check out the "What Am I Doing?" Thread.
Don't make individual threads like this & lurk moar.
/thread.
Edit:
And FYI it's called Fingerless ThumbAround Reverse.
Implying that NO FINGERS are being used.
So no, you're not doing it right. -
Date: Tue, Jun 24 2008 03:33:37
Sorry about that, I made this account not too long ago.
I know what I'm attempting to do, its just I'm not sure if it's right.
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Date: Tue, Jun 24 2008 14:54:34
Hey everyone. This video isn't me but I still want to know for my sake because this happens a lot to me. What would you call it? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQk4CJRP4-c&feature=email
See it's like half Thumnspin half ThumbIndexSpin. -
Date: Tue, Jun 24 2008 14:56:38
Then wouldn't it be a hybrid? ts ~ tis?
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Date: Wed, Jun 25 2008 08:31:46QUOTE (11Thrasher11 @ Jun 24 2008, 10:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hey everyone. This video isn't me but I still want to know for my sake because this happens a lot to me. What would you call it? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQk4CJRP4-c&feature=email
See it's like half Thumnspin half ThumbIndexSpin.
It looks like it spins something along the lines of Thumbspin 6.0 ~ Indexspin 6.0 ~ Thumbspin 1.0?
I believe people just refer to this as being a Thumbindexspin. -
Date: Sun, Jun 29 2008 13:24:36
Some weird tricks... don't now what tricks are; maybe new. -
Date: Sun, Jun 29 2008 13:32:59
#1 Is basically a HalfTap that uses only the index finger. You've picked on an area that the NC is currently discussing. I think SideIndexSpin 0.5 1-1 might cover it. It's nice though and I've never seen it before.
#2 IndexAround (0.75?) with some kind of weird beginning (I can't tell how exactly how you're pushing it).
#3 Looks like a Fingerless MiddleAround 0.5 2-23.
#4 Looks like a Shadow Reverse done in a very strange way.
@Ralys - Sorry, edited. -
Date: Sun, Jun 29 2008 13:41:53QUOTE#4 Looks like a Shadow done in a very strange way.
more likely it's a shadow reverse done in a very strange way... right? -
Date: Sun, Jun 29 2008 17:46:18
@Freeman: I'd go with a few changes to Mats' reply...
1. Halftap 11-11[p 1] (the pen is balanced on 2 parts of the index finger: 11, as opposed to a stall the usually has the pen balanced on a single part)
2. Indexaround 0.5 11-12[p 1]
3. Middlearound 0.5 2-23[p 1]
4. Shadow Reverse 2-12[p 2] with a push similar to David Weis' Fake Reverse push
I'm using the Expanded trick notation to state which finger is used for the push for each trick. -
Date: Sun, Jun 29 2008 21:04:07
Actually, in Trick #1 and Trick #2 the pen isn't balanced on two parts of the finger, only on one, but the other part is near ready to make the push.
EDIT: So I think it would be:
1. Halftap 1-11[p 1]
2. Indexaround 0.5 1-12[p 1]
RE-EDIT:
And the pushes of tricks 3 and 4 are different, it would be:
3. Middlearound 0.5 2-23[p 2] (instead of [p 1])
4. Shadow Reverse 2-12[p 1] (instead of [p 2])
I think I am right, if not, correct me.
EDIT2: I have more doubts:
The tricks seem to be Palmtaps or Spider Spins ending in different slots.
Thank you very much! -
Date: Wed, Jul 2 2008 23:41:26
can it be indexpinky bak?
http://ru.youtube.com/watch?v=Qm_xxhh9hdo -
Date: Thu, Jul 3 2008 00:08:36
#5 is a Palmspin 0.5 P34-P34
The others are Inverse Shadows (since they spin on the fingers with the hand palm up) that are just starting/ending in different ways. The last 'catch' on the last trick is basically Phya's 'offering'. -
Date: Thu, Jul 3 2008 15:18:13QUOTE (Aborrol @ Jul 3 2008, 01:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>can it be indexpinky bak?
http://ru.youtube.com/watch?v=Qm_xxhh9hdo
twisted cobra bite 12/34 I think -
Date: Thu, Jul 3 2008 22:58:45
but i have half pinky bak
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Date: Thu, Jul 3 2008 23:00:38
It looks like a hybrid of Neoback and Pinkybak Reverse. Atleast, if you go over the back of the hand it's a Pinkybak, otherwise it would be a hybrid of Neobak & FL Pinkyaround.
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Date: Mon, Jul 7 2008 16:01:40
I was doing some Infinity Extendeds and it slipped when I was going for the charge and it did 1 spin on the back of my hand and I caught it in the thumbflap. It was a mistake, but I thought it was a cool mistake so I practiced it more and more. Now I can do it whenever I want, is this a new trick?
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Date: Mon, Jul 7 2008 16:04:23
So you are basically doing Charge > Spin on back of hand (I assume you mean the back of the fingers here?) for 1 spin > Catch in T1?
Sounds like a Shadow that is caught in T1...
Video would clarify once and for all. -
Date: Mon, Jul 7 2008 16:07:09
Well I would post a video but my camcorder is currently at someone elses house.
It's kinda like a shadow except I use a RSVP MSXA and I hold it all the way at the end of the pen. Kinda weird, hard to explain.
It doesn't spin on the back of the fingers, but on the back of the palm. -
Date: Mon, Jul 7 2008 16:11:22
Do you allow the pen to pass through the 34 slot, it then spins 1.0 on the back of the hand and is caught in T1, doing a total of 1.5 spins?
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Date: Mon, Jul 7 2008 16:15:51
Acutally, yeah it's 1.5 spins.
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Date: Mon, Jul 7 2008 16:24:56
Sounds like a 'Backspin 1.5 34-T1' which is basically an Inverse Palmspin, in which case it's not new, but it is insanely cool.
If it just has one rotation it would probably be a Weisen Ringbackaround 34-T1.
In both cases I'm assuming it's going through 34 slot... ?
Make a video sometime eh? -
Date: Mon, Jul 7 2008 17:58:46
I looked up the Backspin on youtube and what I did looked similar to that but it spins below the knuckles on the back of my hand, not on the fingers.
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Date: Mon, Jul 7 2008 19:36:16
that's what a backspin does, a shadow spins on the fingers
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Date: Wed, Jul 16 2008 10:38:21
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ESwrXnKz1EQ
can ye tell meh the name? plz -
Date: Wed, Jul 16 2008 12:04:02
Susho: Charge 0.5 23 > inverse Sonic 23-12 ~> Pass 13-34 > Charge 34
It's a hybrid. -
Date: Wed, Jul 16 2008 12:10:52
tnx alot >.<
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Date: Wed, Jul 16 2008 22:23:11
It can be called "Inverse sonic impulse" too. But "impulse" is an informal notation.
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Date: Wed, Jul 23 2008 20:24:43
1st thing: It's a figure 8 T2 but instead of using the tip of 2 I use the middle part. Is there any way to notate it
2nd thing: I do Inverse Sonic 23-12 ~ Indexaround 0.5 13-11 -> ??? 11-12. I flip it up from 11 to 12 and it does not rotate.
3rd thing: Is this counter twisted sonic bust 23-23? I'm not sure. -
Date: Wed, Jul 23 2008 20:42:56
NaDa, it does not matter where it's used so it's still T2 it would be like doing a charge at the base or the finger tips, second you do Inverse Sonic 23-12 ~> Neosonic 13-11 -> Indexaround .5 11-12, and thirdly I believe it's just Twisted Sonic 23-12 ~> Indexmiddlebak 12-23 not sure on that though.
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Date: Wed, Jul 23 2008 21:50:33
1) k thanks
2)How is it IA .5 if it doesn't spin
3) it doesn't do an indexmiddle bak, it starts the bust and i turn my hand and it goes back (sorry bad cam) -
Date: Wed, Jul 23 2008 21:58:42QUOTE (NaDa @ Jul 23 2008, 02:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>2)How is it IA .5 if it doesn't spin
Huh to me it looks like it goes back over... -
Date: Wed, Jul 23 2008 21:59:25
look at the tip of the pen before and after the trick
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Date: Sun, Jul 27 2008 15:49:50
yea is there a official name for this trick ?? or what
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Date: Sun, Jul 27 2008 15:54:46
It's simply: Sonic Reverse 34-24 [0.5] ~> Pass 24-12.
Please visit the "What Am I Doing" Thread from now on.
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Date: Sun, Jul 27 2008 17:39:15
i actually think that was Sonic Reverse 23-24 [0.5] ~> Pass 24-12 hehe
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Date: Mon, Jul 28 2008 04:57:00
whats this?:
i do a sonic 23 but instead of catching it on 12 i let it do (.5 spin?) on back of my fingers and catch on 34 slot.
(some variation of shadow?: just asking cuz devils sonic is similar i think (but devils sonic has twisted sonic? i don't know?) -
Date: Mon, Jul 28 2008 06:56:54
the first trick:pd ta to 12 or pd tia ?_?
the second trick:pu tia or pu ta to 12 ?_?
help me please
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Date: Mon, Jul 28 2008 07:03:56
on this computer i cant see the video...
but it sounds like an extended thumbaround
EDIT: yes it is indeed an ext TA or fake double, the names confuse me
but yea it's a hybrid TA ~> FL IA. And for further reference, things like this should be asked in the "What Am I Doing" thread. No need for your own new thread -
Date: Mon, Jul 28 2008 07:08:18QUOTE (Shadowserpant @ Jul 28 2008, 03:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>on this computer i cant see the video...
but it sounds like an extended thumbaround
spin less than ex ta 0.5
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Date: Mon, Jul 28 2008 07:11:27
see edit ^
and what? it looks like an ext ta to me, hands down.
being an around, ext ta can end palm up and down, so they're the same trick -
Date: Mon, Jul 28 2008 07:34:11
First one is a ThumbIndexAround T1-12. Not sure about the other.
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Date: Mon, Jul 28 2008 07:39:36
oh you're right, i wasnt paying attention to the revolutions
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Date: Mon, Jul 28 2008 07:47:12QUOTE (000zero0000 @ Jul 28 2008, 02:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i do a sonic 23 but instead of catching it on 12 i let it do (.5 spin?) on back of my fingers and catch on 34 slot.
Shadow 23-34 -
Date: Mon, Jul 28 2008 19:23:15
ty, then wats it when it drops back to original position?
shadow 23-23? -
Date: Mon, Jul 28 2008 19:39:17
yes
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Date: Tue, Jul 29 2008 04:02:33
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA1mBrNcni8
TA n TA r using finger 1, 2, 3, 4..new trick(discovered on my own) or just a simple trick without a name? havent found the name of the trick yet..help me on this trick name.. watch on sec 11 -
Date: Tue, Jul 29 2008 04:08:30
Its just TA in with different finger pushes, so its a common variation.
So its still TA. -
Date: Tue, Jul 29 2008 04:09:42QUOTE (streetcraft @ Jul 29 2008, 12:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA1mBrNcni8
TA n TA r using finger 1, 2, 3, 4..new trick(discovered on my own) or just a simple trick without a name? havent found the name of the trick yet..help me on this trick name.. watch on sec 11
it's just a ta t1, t2, t3, t4 and ta rev t1, t2, t3, t4 -
Date: Tue, Jul 29 2008 04:13:23
i see..so if i want to improved the TA what i can do about it ? TA n TA r without doing combo..just a new style of TA ...how ?
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Date: Tue, Jul 29 2008 06:41:00
uh...i'm not quite sure what you mean...
but uh...try learning extended ta/fake double, fl ta, double ta, triple ta, etc... -
Date: Tue, Jul 29 2008 06:55:25
others TA ? or new Hybrid TA ?
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Date: Tue, Jul 29 2008 14:21:36
what you were doing in the video...is just a ta
nothing new, not a new hybrid---just a plain regular ta
although ta is normally done with an index or middle push, and ta reverse is usually done with either an index push or a middle flick, you can do tas and ta reverses using different fingered pushes, but in the end, it's still a regular ta and ta reverse
the only thing that changes is the finger uses and so the notation changes a bit
so an index push would be a ta t1-t1, and a middle push would be ta t2-t2 (the second part just tells you where you catch it, that can change to being at any position) -
Date: Tue, Jul 29 2008 15:06:52QUOTE (streetcraft @ Jul 29 2008, 07:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>others TA ? or new Hybrid TA ?
Thumbaround variations that use different fingers to push can easily be described by extended trick notation.
If you want variations on Thumbaround, you might wish to try:
Continuous Thumbarounds
Thumbaround Reverse
Fingerless Thumbaround
Fingerless Thumbaround Reverse
Extended Thumbaround
Thumbspin
Thumbspin Reverse
You can find information on these on the wiki @ www.upsb.info/wiki
Some interesting mini combos that use the thumb might be of interest too, such as:
Double Thumbaround (Thumbaround > Fingerless Thumbaround)
Thumbaround Harmonic (Thumbaround > Thumbaround Reverse)
Fingerless Thumbaround Harmonic (Fingerless Thumbaround > Fingerless Thumbaround Reverse)
If you want to do something new with Thumbaround, then I suggest learning some variations like these first. Perhaps in learning them you will fluke something new, or in learning them, see something new. -
Date: Tue, Jul 29 2008 23:55:47
thanks man..i'll sure try those trick...
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Date: Sat, Aug 9 2008 02:28:38
Ok, I just had a thought for a little minicombo, even though I can't do it because I'm not very good at reverse tricks, but I'm not sure if this is considered a hybrid or not. Start with Demon sonic 34-12 > Neosonic 12-T1. The pen will then move in exactly the opposite direction following exactly the same path: Neosonic Rev T1-12 > The opposite of demon sonic but not demon sonic rev... maybe it would just be Rev Twisted sonic 12-24 > Charge 0.5 24-34? I don't really know, I'm a beginner, maybe I'm just being stupid...
Sorry I don't have a video, first of all I don't have a cam and second I cant even do the combo... -
Date: Sat, Aug 9 2008 10:00:51
I need help please.
Trick #1 is not a Demon's Sonic, it has only 1 revolution. Trick #2 is a Wiper Rev that goes T1-T2-T3-T4.
I don't know the name of the 4 tricks.
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Date: Sat, Aug 9 2008 12:26:49
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahKXDTnCzgo whats this trick please help
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Date: Sat, Aug 9 2008 12:33:01
that looks like inverse shadow. i think.
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Date: Sat, Aug 9 2008 19:43:49QUOTE (Freeman @ Aug 9 2008, 03:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I need help please.
Trick #1 is not a Demon's Sonic, it has only 1 revolution. Trick #2 is a Wiper Rev that goes T1-T2-T3-T4.
I don't know the name of the 4 tricks.
Thanks, I'm very grateful for all your help.
First trick: Out In Sonic i believe.
2nd trick: Rev Wiper .5 T1 ~ Rev Wiper .5 T4 (Interesting hybrid, I'm not sure)
3rd trick: IA 0.5 12-12
4th trick: Rev Thumbspin .25 > Half-tap
And white fang is correct. It's an inverse shadow 23-34. -
Date: Sat, Aug 9 2008 20:18:06
thats cool i can do inverse shadow
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Date: Sat, Aug 9 2008 23:24:23
uh. yeah...
and this one i think is flick > bak rev
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Date: Sun, Aug 10 2008 01:53:02QUOTE (shonenbatman @ Aug 9 2008, 04:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>uh. yeah...
and this one i think is flick > bak rev
but i am unsure
1st vid = Twisted Sonic Bust 1.5. Broken down further it's: twisted sonic 23-12 > backaround reverse 1.5 12-12
2nd vid = Reverse Half-tap (aka Fake Reverse 0.5) T2-12 > Bak Rev 12-12 -
Date: Tue, Aug 12 2008 06:21:32
ahh thank you very much.
would these be good tricks in my repetuare? (sp) -
Date: Sat, Aug 16 2008 00:45:11
What trick is this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIb4k_uKf6M
Started doing it yesterday. It doesn't seem to complicated, but if I need to add slow-mo I will. Thanks.
I would say that this is just thumb around with a reversed index around, but it feels like one trick and the tip of the pen never goes in between the index and thumb during the trick. -
Date: Sat, Aug 16 2008 01:07:02QUOTE (Ctrlwud @ Aug 15 2008, 05:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>What trick is this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIb4k_uKf6M
Started doing it yesterday. It doesn't seem to complicated, but if I need to add slow-mo I will. Thanks.
I would say that this is just thumb around with a reversed index around, but it feels like one trick and the tip of the pen never goes in between the index and thumb during the trick.
extended ta. -
Date: Sat, Aug 16 2008 01:11:37QUOTE (Sankaku @ Aug 15 2008, 06:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Fake Double
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Date: Sat, Aug 16 2008 01:29:44
i dunno nate, i just started, i dun really know the dif between fakes and tornadoes and ext ta and stufff......
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Date: Mon, Aug 18 2008 07:45:39
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkC0uBkNl8k
So, this is a combination of a Devil's Around and a Devil's Shadow... what is it called? I guess the formal notation would be something like:
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Twisted Sonic 23-12 ~ Shadow 12-23 ~ Middlearound 23-12 ~ Charge 12.
And then the second trick is the busted version of it. Sorry for the sloppy spinning, don't really have this trick down yet. -
Date: Mon, Aug 18 2008 13:50:27
http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=tAqgRxqtpd0
How can you name it?
I'm almost sure that the third one is Shadow 13-13, but what about first two?
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Date: Mon, Aug 18 2008 17:00:34QUOTE (Rarka @ Aug 18 2008, 04:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=tAqgRxqtpd0
How can you name it?
I'm almost sure that the third one is Shadow 13-13, but what about first two?
Does the catch like inverse sonic make difference?
First one was shadow 13-13. second one was shadow 13-12. third one... I guess also a kind of shadow 13-13, but I'm not sure on this one
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Date: Mon, Aug 18 2008 20:40:53QUOTE (QuestionMark @ Aug 18 2008, 10:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>First one was shadow 13-13. second one was shadow 13-12. third one... I guess also a kind of shadow 13-13, but I'm not sure on this one
First: Shadow 13-13
2nd: Shadow 13-12
3rd: Inverse Charge 13 0.5 ~ Shadow 13-13
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Date: Mon, Aug 18 2008 20:48:19
i guess this is where i should put my question.
wuts a:
charge 23 -> pass 23-12
rev charge 23 -> pass 23-12
charge 23 -> pass rev 23-12
rev charge 23 -> rev pass 23-12
all i know is one of them is a twisted sonic and warped. but which?
is it twisted and warped and there reeverses?
BTW these are hybrids -
Date: Mon, Aug 18 2008 20:58:09QUOTE (fusionnoble @ Aug 18 2008, 10:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>charge 23 -> pass 23-12- Inverse Twisted SonicQUOTE (fusionnoble @ Aug 18 2008, 10:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>rev charge 23 -> pass 23-12- (probably) Inverse Warped Sonic ReverseQUOTE (fusionnoble @ Aug 18 2008, 10:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>charge 23 -> pass rev 23-12- Twisted SonicQUOTE (fusionnoble @ Aug 18 2008, 10:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>rev charge 23 -> rev pass 23-12- Warped Sonic ReverseQUOTE (Look Into the Sun @ Aug 18 2008, 10:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>First: Shadow 13-13
2nd: Shadow 13-12
3rd: Inverse Charge 13 0.5 ~ Shadow 13-13
I believe that's it.
Inverse Charge?
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Date: Mon, Aug 18 2008 21:00:33
tyty i'll give you 5 stars on your profile thingy
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Date: Mon, Aug 18 2008 21:10:20QUOTE (fusionnoble @ Aug 18 2008, 04:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>BTW these are hybrids
No, they're not.
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Date: Mon, Aug 18 2008 21:15:14QUOTE (Rarka @ Aug 18 2008, 01:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Inverse Charge?
Whoops, it isn't an inverse charge. An inverse charge your finger sticking out like this: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-3mz7eCbJ0. Sorry.
So I'm guessing it's something like a Sonic Clip 23-13 0.5 ~ Shadow 13-13. If you did it in a combo, that's how it'd be notated. I don't think there's a name for starting in the sonic clip position though. If there is, I haven't heard of it. -
Date: Mon, Aug 18 2008 21:28:17
For me, it's obvious that the last one is a regular shadow 13-13, without any hybrids (but it's only for me, maybe I'm wrong).
I'm not sure about two first, because they starts in different positions (like in inv sonic or inv charge) and the first one goes almost around the middle finger. Can it be notated also as Middlebackaround Reverse 13-13? -
Date: Mon, Aug 18 2008 23:49:03QUOTE (Rarka @ Aug 18 2008, 06:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=tAqgRxqtpd0
How can you name it?
I'm almost sure that the third one is Shadow 13-13, but what about first two?
Does the catch like inverse sonic make difference?- Inverse Charge 13[p] ~ Shadow 13-13[s][c]
- Inverse Charge 13[p] ~ Shadow 13-12[s][c]
- Shadow 13-13
I wouldn't try to go with any kind of Fingeraround for the first video, it would be more complicated than it's worth putting together Charges on either end of a Middlearound. The pen is just going around the finger so no Backaround in there. Since there is still the Charge motion for the push that Shadows have, along with a Shadow catch, it makes more sense just using a different Charge push. -
Date: Tue, Aug 19 2008 11:24:41
Thank you Sketching, now I understand.
Two more questions:
http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=jSKAT2nB0Zs
Both of them are Inverse Charge 13[p] ~ Shadow 13-13[s][c], both start and end in 13 slot, but the first one goes "around" the middle finger (I know, it isn't an around trick, but I don't know how to describe it) and the second one doesn't. Can we name this difference somehow?
http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=eo1M1Aoxn54
Both of them go in the same way. You can name it as MiddleBackaround 32-21 (which has 0.5 rotation), Neobackaround 32-21 (1.5 rotation) or Shadow Reverse 32-21 (1.5 rotation too). Which name is correct? Does this trick have 0.5 or 1.5 rotation?
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Date: Tue, Aug 19 2008 17:12:32
The second video is a MidBak [0.5] 23-12.
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Date: Tue, Aug 19 2008 17:24:31
@Rarka:
Video #1
Trick #1
Since the Charge motion is different for both the push & catch, you will have to specify as much, I'd go with...- Inverse Charge 13[p] ~ Shadow 13-13[s 0.5] ~ Inverse Charge 13[c]
or - Inverse Charge 13[p] ~ {Shadow 0.5 13-13} ~ [c]
Since the trick has the horizontal pen position traveling over the middle finger, you could go with the Shadow hybrid, but a Middlearound hybrid could also work:- Inverse Charge 13[p] ~ Middlearound[s 0.5] ~ Inverse Charge 13[c]
or - Inverse Charge 13[p] ~ {Middlearound 0.5 13-13} ~ [c]
Trick #2- Inverse Charge13[p] ~ Shadow 13-12[s 0.5] ~ Inverse Charge 13[c]
Video #2
Trick #1- Fingerless Middlearound Reverse 0.75 23-123
Trick #2- Shadow Reverse 23-12
- Inverse Charge 13[p] ~ Shadow 13-13[s 0.5] ~ Inverse Charge 13[c]
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Date: Tue, Aug 19 2008 18:07:31
Thank you Sketching again, I almost understand
Last question: How do you know that Trick 1st in Vid 2nd is a fl midbak, instead of neobak? (they seem to be the same, but we used to write that midbak has 0.5 rotation and neobak has 1.5) -
Date: Tue, Aug 19 2008 18:25:54
So far, Neobaks only go down the hand or stay in the same slot. Since the first trick in the second video is going up and around the middle finger with a fingerless push, it seems easy enough to call it a Fingerless Middlearound Reverse 0.5.
A Middlebackaround would have to go around the base of the finger, since the pen only goes halfway around the finger itself, it would be a FL MA Rev 0.5. Neobackarounds are mostly described as traveling on top of the fingers, back of the hand, not around anything. Since the pen in that trick is traveling around something, it is one more reason that it would not be a Neobak. Plus, the trick does not end with the 0.5 Charge motion as the pen enters in the catching finger slot because the pen is rotating in the same direction that it is moving around the finger, rather than in the opposite direction. -
Date: Tue, Aug 19 2008 18:28:05
Thank you Sketching again, now I understand
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Date: Mon, Aug 25 2008 21:36:40
what am i doing?
http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=X38HD7MYb3Y -
Date: Sat, Aug 30 2008 16:54:43
Right, what is he doing?
And what am I doing?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=To_SdHyQmFk -
Date: Tue, Sep 2 2008 14:23:43
@hitman: I dont know what hes doing...looks kinda new but also could be a hybrid.
@h4st1ngs: You did a Thumbspin 1.5 T12 - 34. The catch was a bit different..thats it. (I think i'm right) -
Date: Tue, Sep 2 2008 14:50:41QUOTE (hitman @ Aug 25 2008, 11:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
To me it looks like flush sonic 34-23 -> sonic 23-12 ... -
Date: Tue, Sep 2 2008 15:08:05QUOTE (QuestionMark @ Sep 2 2008, 08:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>To me it looks like flush sonic 34-23 -> sonic 23-12 ...
I don't think there is a flush sonic 34-23.QUOTE (sketching @ Aug 19 2008, 10:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>@Rarka:
Trick #1
Since the Charge motion is different for both the push & catch, you will have to specify as much, I'd go with...[list]
[*] Inverse Charge 13[p] ~ Shadow 13-13[s 0.5] ~ Inverse Charge 13[c]
What'd an inverse charge??? I dont find the push different.. Looks more like a normal charge to me..I'm confused..Can some1 explain??
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Date: Tue, Sep 2 2008 15:12:28QUOTE (Outsmash @ Sep 2 2008, 06:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I don't think there is a flush sonic 34-23.
What'd an inverse charge??? I dont find the push different.. Looks more like a normal charge to me..I'm confused..Can some1 explain??
Why not?
EDIT: as far as I know, an Inverse charge is a charge done in an inverse sonic position. -
Date: Tue, Sep 2 2008 15:19:38
yes on the inverse charge
the flush sonic 34-23 isnt technically a flush sonic, but a hybrid of the sonic and flush sonic
and then there's a sonic after it -
Date: Tue, Sep 2 2008 18:09:13QUOTE (Outsmash @ Sep 2 2008, 08:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>What'd an inverse charge??? I dont find the push different.. Looks more like a normal charge to me..I'm confused..Can some1 explain??
Check the middle portion of Inverse Sonic Clip. The non-used finger is pulled back, out of the way, instead of being curled in like the usual Charge between two non-consecutive fingers (Charge 13, Charge 24, etc...). -
Date: Wed, Sep 3 2008 04:16:17
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ2Pl-vyc9Y
what am i doing? can some 1 tell me the breakdown..i mean the real breakdown..n the different between bakfall n korean backaround fall,, -
Date: Wed, Sep 3 2008 04:27:12QUOTE (streetcraft @ Sep 2 2008, 09:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ2Pl-vyc9Y
what am i doing? can some 1 tell me the breakdown..i mean the real breakdown..n the different between bakfall n korean backaround fall,,
you're basically doing bak harmonics (bak > bak rev > bak) and then did a mid bak harmonic and finished up the bakfall.
I'm sure there's a thread somewhere on the difference. :]
Korean bakfall = fl around reverse fall
A proper bakfall is done using Weis Baks. No one does proper weis baks though. I do sometimes when I'm bored... -
Date: Wed, Sep 3 2008 05:42:25
i see...then Weis Baks is the original concept of doing korean backaround ? or it is still the same..?
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Date: Wed, Sep 3 2008 13:28:05
You're right..Weis Bak = The "Original" One.
Tox -
Date: Wed, Sep 3 2008 14:42:53QUOTE (sketching @ Sep 2 2008, 11:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Check the middle portion of Inverse Sonic Clip. The non-used finger is pulled back, out of the way, instead of being curled in like the usual Charge between two non-consecutive fingers (Charge 13, Charge 24, etc...).
So the inverse charge is basically not inverse on its own but on the position? I don't think it should be called the inverse charge though. "Inverse" should be like the mirror of what trick you're doing not how you hold/position to me. Well, that's my opinion
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Date: Wed, Sep 3 2008 22:45:18
?
For a Charge Normal 13 the pen is rotating on the outside of the center finger (middle finger in this case), that is curled into the palm. For Inverse Charge 13 the pen is rotating on the inside of the center finger as it is pulled back out of the way. -
Date: Thu, Sep 4 2008 02:31:08QUOTE (Look Into the Sun @ Sep 2 2008, 09:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>No one does proper weis baks though. I do sometimes when I'm bored...
wtf, are you kidding me? What kind of thing is that to say? -
Date: Thu, Sep 4 2008 23:11:16QUOTE (Shadowserpant @ Sep 3 2008, 07:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>wtf, are you kidding me? What kind of thing is that to say?
Whoops, I meant a weis bakfall. Not just weis bak. -
Date: Thu, Sep 4 2008 23:28:41
ah lol ok, that's kinda true
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Date: Fri, Sep 5 2008 15:51:32QUOTE (sketching @ Sep 4 2008, 05:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>?
For a Charge Normal 13 the pen is rotating on the outside of the center finger (middle finger in this case), that is curled into the palm. For Inverse Charge 13 the pen is rotating on the inside of the center finger as it is pulled back out of the way.
I got it the first time....But like i said for:
Normal Charge 13: Middle finger is curled in
Inverse Charge 13: Midlle finger is pulled back out
The trick does not inverse on its own...its just the middle finger...The rotation does not get inversed. So far in PS every inverse trick I know have been mirrored from the original. This could be different. After all its a name. Yet it doesnt have a true "inverse" meaning..
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Date: Fri, Sep 5 2008 16:41:41QUOTE (Outsmash @ Sep 5 2008, 08:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The trick does not inverse on its own...its just the middle finger...The rotation does not get inversed. So far in PS every inverse trick I know have been mirrored from the original. This could be different. After all its a name. Yet it doesnt have a true "inverse" meaning..
You're contradicting your self, Sonic Normal middle finger curved in, Inverse Sonic Normal, middle finger pushed outward. It's the same concept, there fore it is an Inverse. -
Date: Fri, Sep 12 2008 22:19:41
yeah... what are these in order? -
Date: Fri, Sep 12 2008 22:40:25QUOTE (nateiskewl @ Sep 12 2008, 06:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>1. Badly done twisted sonic
2. Badly caught TA
3. Badly done neosonic
4. dunno.
I was meant to catch the TA with my finger going along the barrel like that Dipshit >.>
neosonic I learnt that night and the last one was a neosnic with 2 fingers, don't know what its called.
You know people would actually like you if you changed you tone >.> -
Date: Sat, Sep 13 2008 21:00:52
@Fluke:
1. Twisted Sonic 23-12
2. Thumbaround T2-T12 with a funny-looking catch
3. Indexaround Reverse 12-T1 (also called NeoSonic 12-T1)
4. Indexaround Reverse 23-T1 (see this post for my thoughts on naming multi-finger arounds) -
Date: Tue, Sep 16 2008 12:19:56
okay okay, still a bit confused at what trick I was doing when I thought I was doing the sonic, lol, I uploaded a clip on youtube, plz tell me
I'm thinking neo sonic?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1qqXZ1EvQc
ignore the ending haha. -
Date: Tue, Sep 16 2008 12:29:38
Doesn't look like a NeoSonic to me, it looks like an aerial. MiddleAround Reverse Release 23-12 1.0, though I'm sure not since you use pressure to launch it rather than pushing it.
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Date: Tue, Sep 16 2008 15:58:33QUOTE (Rorix @ Sep 16 2008, 06:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Doesn't look like a NeoSonic to me, it looks like an aerial. MiddleAround Reverse Release 23-12 1.0, though I'm sure not since you use pressure to launch it rather than pushing it.
looks like a 0.5 to me. More like a NeoSonic 23-12 Pressure 0.5 -
Date: Tue, Sep 16 2008 18:55:03
I see, quite confusing xD
Next time I'll look at instructions more closely before trying to spin, haha. -
Date: Tue, Sep 16 2008 22:47:56QUOTE (Outsmash @ Sep 17 2008, 03:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>looks like a 0.5 to me. More like a NeoSonic 23-12 Pressure 0.5
The pen obviously does one rotation, the cap of the pen is always on the same side. -
Date: Thu, Sep 18 2008 08:13:48QUOTE (Rorix @ Sep 16 2008, 06:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The pen obviously does one rotation, the cap of the pen is always on the same side.
Yes its one rotation and not intended to be aerial just a IA rev then catch in T1 so I'm guessing thats a neo sonic? I have some quick questions...
1. Is a IA rev 12-T1 called a neosonic 12-T1?
2. How do you name double fingered tricks eg: index+middle around 23-23
3. Are twisted sonic 23-12 and inverse sonic 23-12 the same thing?
Thanks
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Date: Thu, Sep 18 2008 10:39:37QUOTE (Fluke @ Sep 18 2008, 01:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Yes its one rotation and not intended to be aerial just a IA rev then catch in T1 so I'm guessing thats a neo sonic? I have some quick questions...
1. Is a IA rev 12-T1 called a neosonic 12-T1?
2. How do you name double fingered tricks eg: index+middle around 23-23
3. Are twisted sonic 23-12 and inverse sonic 23-12 the same thing?
Thanks
1) yes, almost.
2) indexmiddle around.
3) not even close. watch a tutorial or read the wiki. Twisted sonic is charge --> Pass Rev. Inv Sonic is like the oppsite of sonic. You do the same thing but your middle finger pulls back rather than bend in.. -
Date: Thu, Sep 18 2008 15:29:19
looks like a 1.0 passaround... I could be wrong.
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Date: Thu, Sep 18 2008 18:46:28
passaround is deprecated
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Date: Thu, Sep 18 2008 19:01:38
help?
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Date: Thu, Sep 18 2008 20:17:22QUOTE (Anascrash04 @ Sep 18 2008, 11:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've done this a lot and I'm guessing it's notated as:
Fl TA Rev ~ Rev Shadow T1-34 -
Date: Thu, Sep 18 2008 23:25:09QUOTE (Look Into the Sun @ Sep 18 2008, 01:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I've done this a lot and I'm guessing it's notated as:
Fl TA Rev ~ Rev Shadow T1-34
Looks more like Fingerless Charge Reverse T1 > Fingerless Shadow Reverse T1-34. I like doing it better with the pen sliding over the back of the hand instead of over the fingers: FL Charge Rev T1 > FL Neobak T1-34 -
Date: Fri, Sep 19 2008 01:17:46QUOTE (sketching @ Sep 18 2008, 03:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Looks more like Fingerless Charge Reverse T1 > Fingerless Shadow Reverse T1-34. I like doing it better with the pen sliding over the back of the hand instead of over the fingers: FL Charge Rev T1 > FL Neobak T1-34
Whoa, FL Charge Rev? It's not a FL TA Rev? Bizarre. -
Date: Sat, Sep 20 2008 23:27:01
What is this trick? Yes this is me. And its a thumb spin 1.5 > 12. I think. But would it be a new trick or does it all ready exist? It has to be prosed first. I just uploaded the video.
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Date: Sun, Sep 21 2008 00:12:47QUOTE (schlynn @ Sep 20 2008, 04:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>What is this trick? Yes this is me. And its a thumb spin 1.5 > 12. I think. But would it be a new trick or does it all ready exist? It has to be prosed first. I just uploaded the video.
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I'd say... thumbspin 0.5 ~ bak rev -
Date: Sun, Sep 21 2008 00:18:22
Would it be a combo or a new trick?
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Date: Sun, Sep 21 2008 00:29:14
@schlynn:
Hybrid: Thumbspin ~ Indexaround 0.5 T1-12
It's not a new hybrid either. -
Date: Sun, Sep 21 2008 00:31:03
Ah, I got my hopes up. Oh well, now to continue to find a new trick. And how do you know if the trick is a hybrid or a new trick?
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Date: Sun, Sep 21 2008 01:02:27
Hybrids can be broken down into other tricks/trick parts. Single tricks should not be able to do so. To make it harder for you, there are plenty of hybrids that already have names because they were considered tricks before the idea of hybrids was invented.
You can view a lot of them right here. If you are unsure, post your question here and we'll see if we can breakdown what you are doing with existing tricks. If not, you've done a new trick.
Basically, you have to memorize every single existing trick. >_<
If you want to read through a lot of arguing about tricks/hybrids/combos/ etc... go read the Extended Thumbaround, Fake Double and Tornado thread...be warned, you may want to shoot yourself in the head by the end of it. There are plenty of references to older trick/combo names all throughout that thread and a lot people talking in circles. To make it even more interesting, all of the references to "Passaround" are no longer valid. Have a read through this.
BTW, one post in the above thread (mine, of course) that you may be interested in: right here. I talk about a variation of the hybrid that you just brought up. Instead of Thumbspin ~ Indexaround, it is Thumbaround ~ Halftap ~ Indexaround. Similar look to the two hybrids, but a different way to perform them. The only visual difference is that the pen spins on top of both the thumb and index finger before going over the index finger instead of just on the thumb. -
Date: Sun, Sep 21 2008 01:12:18
Thanks for clearing this up. I am going to read those threads right now so that I can try to make up a trick. Now to read those threads. So the hybrid I showed is a Ext TA?
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Date: Sun, Sep 21 2008 01:20:20
Nope. Extended Thumbaround does not involve Thumbspin.
The hybrid you posted does not have a name, it's just a hybrid that would expressed using Interrupted Trick Notation. -
Date: Sun, Sep 21 2008 01:57:00
Do you guys not name hybrids or do you just express them with notation?
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Date: Sun, Sep 21 2008 02:01:26
People used to name them alot, and some popular hybrids are addressed like a trick, but nowadays new hybrids are just notated.
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Date: Mon, Sep 22 2008 01:31:37
What is this?
ive been doing it alot lately, and its really bugging me
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Date: Mon, Sep 22 2008 02:02:36
Twisted sonic bust.
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Date: Wed, Sep 24 2008 17:46:54
how could i notate this trick? thnx -
Date: Wed, Sep 24 2008 22:34:30
Hybrid: rev Thumbspin ~ korean bak
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Date: Thu, Sep 25 2008 00:59:28
@Tioloco: Halftap Reverse T12-12 ~ Charge Reverse 0.5 12
Halftap Reverse T12-12[p][s 0.5] ~ Charge Reverse0.5 12[s][c]
Edit: Charge Reverse, not Charge Normal -
Date: Thu, Sep 25 2008 21:53:53
My bad, I guess that I was way off.
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Date: Sat, Oct 4 2008 14:41:57
Anyone can help me? Trick #1 could be an Inverse Pass, and I don't know how to notate Trick #2 and #3.
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Date: Sat, Oct 4 2008 15:05:46
1 cannot be an inverse pass
its simply the transfer part of the inverse sonic.
in the regular sonic, the transfer part of the sonic is not called pass, otherwise its a twisted sonic.
2 i dunno, just a hbrid
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Date: Sun, Oct 5 2008 10:16:39
Umm hi people, kinda new here.
For my vid, am I doing Bak? If so, am I doing it correctly and which variant of Bak is it? Normal/Neo/Korean/Wessian? -
Date: Sun, Oct 5 2008 10:19:03
The thing, you call ''normal'' bak - Korean bak I believe,
It's Korean bak I think. -
Date: Sun, Oct 5 2008 10:20:11
That would be a Korean Bak.
EDIT: nuts Ralys beat me to it. -
Date: Sun, Oct 5 2008 10:33:00
Ahh I see. Thanks for the help guys
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Date: Sun, Oct 5 2008 22:09:26
http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=tTFu8A4nxqE
How do you notate Seven's bakriser to palm to rev thumbindexspin at 2:00? -
Date: Tue, Oct 7 2008 15:30:07
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the trick in slomo at the end of the video...i know eriror does it pretty often...what is it called? -
Date: Tue, Oct 7 2008 15:35:33
Slomo thingy is indexpinky backaround reverse (IPBA rev)
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Date: Tue, Oct 7 2008 16:20:43
IndexpinkyBackaround Reverse 2.0 12-34
It's eriror's signature trick. -
Date: Thu, Oct 9 2008 19:51:22
TA 1p2h or stupid thing? xDDDD -
Date: Sat, Oct 11 2008 07:53:27
Sonic to air?
http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=qwiUL_avG78 -
Date: Sat, Oct 11 2008 08:22:38QUOTE (11Cichy11 @ Oct 11 2008, 02:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sonic release.. -
Date: Sun, Oct 12 2008 02:04:56QUOTE (Maggot @ Oct 9 2008, 09:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>TA 1p2h or stupid thing? xDDDD
Traditionally that would not be pen spinning trick, because only one hand can touch the pen at the time. -
Date: Sun, Oct 12 2008 05:15:58QUOTE (TheOnion @ Oct 11 2008, 07:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Traditionally that would not be pen spinning trick, because only one hand can touch the pen at the time.
...except for, you know, Two Finger Twirl... -
Date: Sun, Oct 12 2008 06:32:50
Can this be consider as flush neo sonic/Neo sonic flush?
I tried searching for neo sonic flush or flush neo sonic but returned no results. So is this a new trick? -
Date: Sun, Oct 12 2008 07:53:20QUOTE (Mightyboy @ Oct 12 2008, 12:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Can this be consider as flush neo sonic/Neo sonic flush?
I tried searching for neo sonic flush or flush neo sonic but returned no results. So is this a new trick?
Spoiler:
I do that pretty often too.
It's a In-Out Sonic 34-12 --> NeoSonic 12-TF
In-Out Sonic is basically a Hybrid of Sonic 34-23 and Inverse Sonic 23-12. Its somewhat like a flush sonic, but from 34-12. -
Date: Sun, Oct 12 2008 13:10:59QUOTE (Outsmash @ Oct 12 2008, 03:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I do that pretty often too.
It's a In-Out Sonic 34-12 --> NeoSonic 12-TF
In-Out Sonic is basically a Hybrid of Sonic 34-23 and Inverse Sonic 23-12. Its somewhat like a flush sonic, but from 34-12.
I did 2 versions. One flush sonic 34 - 23 version and one flush sonic 23-23 version. But they both worked the same way. -
Date: Sun, Oct 12 2008 18:00:02QUOTE (Mightyboy @ Oct 11 2008, 11:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Can this be consider as flush neo sonic/Neo sonic flush?...
Looks like:
1. Sonic Clip 34-23 1.0 ~ NeoSonic 14-TF
2. Sonic 23-34 1.0 ~ Neosonic 14-TF -
Date: Mon, Oct 13 2008 19:45:30
Not mine, but...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THvey3gYZ2A
Something's wrong, right?
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Date: Mon, Oct 13 2008 20:22:30QUOTE (AzuL @ Oct 13 2008, 11:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They're not fingerless, you're pushing it. You're doing a Indexaround, not a fingerless Indexaround. -
Date: Tue, Oct 14 2008 14:17:13QUOTE (sketching @ Oct 12 2008, 01:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>...except for, you know, Two Finger Twirl...
So... what is it? :/ -
Date: Wed, Oct 15 2008 00:01:32
If you click the link in my reply and watch the video that I posted in the other thread, you would know.
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Date: Wed, Oct 15 2008 17:23:00
I do a thing that ive created at 1:27
I take the pen with 13 with 2 in the position that you can see on video.
I use 13 to up the pen and roll on 2, i push it and catch.
Sorry for mi explanation^^"
Whats the correct breakdown or name?
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Date: Wed, Oct 15 2008 18:02:50
As I said in SPSC, I think it would be P-rial 13-23 [p 2]
What do you say, Sketching? -
Date: Thu, Oct 16 2008 00:16:17
I'd have to agree with Freeman, P-rial 13.
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Date: Thu, Oct 16 2008 14:16:48
I dont exactly know what this is...So i'm jus gonna ask 2 questions...
1) Whats the actual name of this?
2) Is the breakdown:
bak12-12 --> pass 12-23 --> MI bak 23-12 --> pass 12-23 --> midbak23-23 --> pass 23-34 --> RM bak 34-23 --> pass 23-34 --> ringbak 34-34 --> pinkybak 34-34??? If not thern what?
(I'm not sure about the ringbak34-34 though...)
I = index
M = middle
R = ring
P = pinky
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Date: Fri, Oct 17 2008 01:51:07
@Outsmash: it looks to me like:
FL IA 12-12 > Pass 12-23 > FL IS 1.5 23-12 > Pass 12-23 > FL MA 23-23 > Pass 23-34 > FL MS 1.5 34-23 > Pass 23-34 > FL RA 34-34 > FL RS 1.5 34-23 >Pass 23-34 > FL PA 34-34 > peace sign
FL = Fingerless
IA - Indexaround
IS = Indexspin
MA = Middlearound
MS = Middlespin
RA = Ringaround
RS = Ringspin
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Date: Fri, Oct 17 2008 05:44:46
I'm not sure what it would be.
I know it's a TF charge (maybe charge rev?) into something, but what? And is the TF Charge technically considered interrupted or no? -
Date: Fri, Oct 17 2008 07:58:59QUOTE (MatthewK206 @ Oct 17 2008, 12:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>vid
I'm not sure what it would be.
I know it's a TF charge (maybe charge rev?) into something, but what? And is the TF Charge technically considered interrupted or no?
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Date: Fri, Oct 17 2008 09:37:02
@MatthewK206: FL Charge Rev T1 > FL Topspin 0.5 T1-23. If you add a Charge 0.5 23 to the end you could have FL Charge Rev T1 > FL Shadow T1-23.
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Date: Fri, Oct 17 2008 11:41:25QUOTE (sketching @ Oct 17 2008, 07:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>@Outsmash: it looks to me like:
FL IA 12-12 > Pass 12-23 > FL IS 1.5 23-12 > Pass 12-23 > FL MA 23-23 > Pass 23-34 > FL MS 1.5 34-23 > Pass 23-34 > FL RA 34-34 > FL RS 1.5 34-23 >Pass 23-34 > FL PA 34-34 > peace sign
FL = Fingerless
IA - Indexaround
IS = Indexspin
MA = Middlearound
MS = Middlespin
RA = Ringaround
RS = Ringspin
PA = Pinkyaround
I'm a bit more satisfied with my breakdown, maybe I missed the IS and MS ,etc...
Anyways, you mentioned "FL IA" its supposed to be "FL IA Rev"..you did that for all the other ones too..
EDIT: Clyde gave me the breakdown:QUOTE (Clyde Cazena's Breakdown - Youtube)Bak-->MiddleIndex bak 1.5-->mid bak-->RingMiddle bak 1.5-->ring bak-->PinkyRing bak1.5-->pinky bak
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Date: Sun, Oct 19 2008 04:11:39
What is this trick's name:
how do you write it in a breakdown?
Is there already a topic on this that i couldn't find? Send link please? -
Date: Sun, Oct 19 2008 04:14:56QUOTE (sadi teh pirate @ Oct 18 2008, 09:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>What is this trick's name:
Spoiler:
how do you write it in a breakdown?
Is there already a topic on this that i couldn't find? Send link please?
use this tthread next time.
http://www.upsb.info/forum/index.php?showtopic=1262
and I can't help you with the trick, sorry. I would call it a single finger wiper, like, Wiper 22. -
Date: Sun, Oct 19 2008 04:17:39QUOTE (MatthewK206 @ Oct 18 2008, 11:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>use this tthread next time.
http://www.upsb.info/forum/index.php?showtopic=1262
and I can't help you with the trick, sorry. I would call it a single finger wiper, like, Wiper 22.
i was considering it but its not me doing it...and i figured if its a trick that doesn't already have a topic this one could be it??? actually...i realized this should really be moved to the advanced trick section eh..... -
Date: Sun, Oct 19 2008 04:23:11
props on a nice discovery
unless anyone else does this, idk
but yea, really cool trick
too bad i cant do it with kt tips on
uh yea just wiper 11 i think
edit: wtf am i saying, u didnt make this xD i totally like... yea nvm that. still... this is cool -
Date: Sun, Oct 19 2008 04:36:00
Key3 did this in JapEn 3rd. Then Fratleym and Sound copied his combo, so these three spinners can do it too.
It's just wiper 11. You repeat the number, because the pen is touching two parts of the finger. -
Date: Sun, Oct 19 2008 04:36:20
Flush sonic rev?
forgive the shittyness and thumb assistance
i was just trying to record it real quick for sadi -
Date: Sun, Oct 19 2008 04:55:13QUOTE (Shadowserpant @ Oct 18 2008, 11:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Flush sonic rev?
forgive the shittyness and thumb assistance
i was just trying to record it real quick for sadi
correct me if im wrong (and i could very well be wrong), but wouldn't your ring finger need to go stay straight and your middle finger need to bend down in order for it to trully be "reverse" (considering in the flush sonic normal, the middle finger stays straight and your ring finger bends)?
like this:
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Date: Sun, Oct 19 2008 04:59:09
except i think that would be the inverse, which i'm not going to show you because it's painful for me atm
i think reverse is solely the path of the pen -
Date: Sun, Oct 19 2008 05:03:55QUOTE (Shadowserpant @ Oct 18 2008, 11:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>except i think that would be the inverse, which i'm not going to show you because it's painful for me atm
i think reverse is solely the path of the pen
We need the magic breakdown powers of Sketching!!! -
Date: Sun, Oct 19 2008 05:09:26
lol yes i would like to hear sketching's thoughts
although i'm pretty sure of it...
also, for flush sonic and flush sonic rev, i think it should start in a charge 0.5 position
idk about ending -
Date: Tue, Oct 21 2008 04:25:01
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FazUf506aHc...feature=related
what is kUzu doing at 0:23 - 0:25? -
Date: Tue, Oct 21 2008 18:33:28
Looks like IPBA rev 2.0 ~> FL TA -> IA 0.5. I mean, something like symmetrical backaround started with IPBA rev instead of devil's shadow, and added additional IA 0.5
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Date: Tue, Oct 21 2008 19:28:07QUOTE (Ralys @ Oct 21 2008, 11:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Looks like IPBA rev 2.0 ~> FL TA -> IA 0.5. I mean, something like symmetrical backaround started with IPBA rev instead of devil's shadow, and added additional IA 0.5
Not sure about breakdown tho.
That's pretty much it.
Indexpinkybak 12-TF 2.0 > Fl TA TF-TF ~ Bak Rev0.5 12-12 -
Date: Wed, Oct 22 2008 01:50:54
dont have a cam so i cant post a vid, but what im doing is a twisted sonic but instead of going straight into the thumb flap i put my thumb in the way adding an extra .5 revolution. anyone know what its called?
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Date: Wed, Oct 22 2008 02:15:07
...what?
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Date: Sat, Oct 25 2008 12:43:52
I don't know if these stalls exist or have a name yet, so what am I doing?
All credits for 1st stall go to Challenges from SPSC. -
Date: Sat, Oct 25 2008 15:46:41QUOTE (Freeman @ Oct 25 2008, 02:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I don't know if these stalls exist or have a name yet, so what am I doing?
All credits for 1st stall go to Challenges from SPSC.
I don't think you can call those stalls. In a stall you have balance the pen. You are holding the pen. Don't know if there is a need for new category for this kind of tricks or if it should be said that it just isn't pen spinning tricks. -
Date: Sat, Oct 25 2008 15:48:40QUOTE (Aiyah @ Oct 20 2008, 09:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FazUf506aHc...feature=related
what is kUzu doing at 0:23 - 0:25?
To me, looked like a FL palmaround, what ayatori did in PSN 4. That's what I saw =\
PSN 4 at 3:43 -
Date: Sat, Oct 25 2008 16:16:39
kUzu did do something similar but it's different think of Spinnerpeen's Trick, I forget what it's called but I think it has to do with ninja or something, but anyway He starts of like:
Ext. TA lets say T1-34 ~> something like Fl Indexmiddleringpinky Around Reverse ~> Fl TA sadly there is no formal notation for that trick
Ayatori did pretty much the same thing but instead of doing the Fl TA at the end he does Shadow T1-XX -
Date: Sun, Oct 26 2008 10:56:36
Right, so I was doing Bak yesterday and I kinda held the pen in a wrong position and gave a wrong hand jerk motion and I got this. I searched youtube on Bak Rev and mine seems a little weird
And for this trick, Bak 23-12? Neobak 23-12?
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Date: Mon, Oct 27 2008 23:15:49
first one is just a bakrev
second one...
im not sure but, does it go around your middle AND index?
if so i think it's an IMBA 1.0 23-12 -
Date: Mon, Oct 27 2008 23:37:04QUOTE (sangara @ Oct 25 2008, 08:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>kUzu did do something similar but it's different think of Spinnerpeen's Trick, I forget what it's called but I think it has to do with ninja or something, but anyway He starts of like:
Ext. TA lets say T1-34 ~> something like Fl Indexmiddleringpinky Around Reverse ~> Fl TA sadly there is no formal notation for that trick
Ayatori did pretty much the same thing but instead of doing the Fl TA at the end he does Shadow T1-XX
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Date: Mon, Oct 27 2008 23:39:16QUOTE (Look Into the Sun @ Oct 27 2008, 04:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Looks like a ta ~ handaround > fl ta to me.
I would love to call it a handaround but we have no formal "handaround" .
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Date: Tue, Oct 28 2008 04:56:56QUOTE (Shadowserpant @ Oct 28 2008, 07:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>first one is just a bakrev
second one...
im not sure but, does it go around your middle AND index?
if so i think it's an IMBA 1.0 23-12
Oh thanks.
And I can do Bak from 34 and does a full 1.0 rotation when going around my ring, middle and index and landing in 12. IMRBA 1.0 34-12?
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Date: Tue, Oct 28 2008 08:49:45QUOTE (Scandiacus @ Oct 28 2008, 12:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Oh thanks.
And I can do Bak from 34 and does a full 1.0 rotation when going around my ring, middle and index and landing in 12. IMRBA 1.0 34-12?
Wrong IPBA. -
Date: Thu, Oct 30 2008 00:40:03
i believe he means a ringbak 34
because....
IPBA 1.0 34-12 is impossible due to the nature of pinkybaks
that would make it an IRBA 1.0 34-12 -
Date: Sun, Nov 2 2008 18:25:40QUOTE (Shadowserpant @ Oct 29 2008, 04:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i believe he means a ringbak 34
because....
IPBA 1.0 34-12 is impossible due to the nature of pinkybaks
that would make it an IRBA 1.0 34-12
Hrm, just been experimenting, it seems that it's possible with 1.5 revolutions but maybe with 1.0 . I'll keep looking into it. -
Date: Fri, Nov 7 2008 16:59:57
What am i doing?
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Date: Sat, Nov 8 2008 22:01:32
What am i doing?
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Date: Sat, Nov 8 2008 22:06:40
Weis backaround relase, i think (judelco).
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Date: Sun, Nov 9 2008 00:28:20
@JuDelCo: it looks like Indexaround Reverse Release
@torune-do: the end looks like
Backaround 44 ~ Wrist Stall -
Date: Sun, Nov 9 2008 10:29:56QUOTE (sketching @ Nov 9 2008, 01:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>@JuDelCo: it looks like Indexaround Reverse Release
@torune-do: the end looks like
Backaround 44 ~ Wrist Stall
oki doki thnx for the info. -
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 05:58:44
wut iz dis? -
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 06:03:01QUOTE (R Heng @ Nov 9 2008, 10:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>wut iz dis?
it's really just IA 13-12... -
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 23:56:57
First: Thanks sketching for your reply
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Second: What am i doing? #2
Thanks in advance -
Date: Tue, Nov 11 2008 00:37:02QUOTE (JuDelCo @ Nov 10 2008, 03:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>First: Thanks sketching for your reply
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Second: What am i doing? #2
Thanks in advance
That's a Devil's shadow, a twisted sonic and shadow hybrid. -
Date: Tue, Nov 11 2008 20:29:56
What's toast doing at 0:12?
the part where the pen goes across his palm to the 34 slot -
Date: Tue, Nov 11 2008 20:33:16
Yeah I've seen that move a few times...all I can think of is a palm spin with the hand vertical...but that doesn't logically make sense xD
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Date: Wed, Nov 12 2008 02:38:29
It was: Scissor Spin 12-T1 0.5 ~> Palmspin 0.5 T1-34
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Date: Wed, Nov 12 2008 20:11:11
whats this trick, ive started to do it all the time, and i caught it between 2&3 instead of 1&2
i think its devils sonic->fist spin->thumbspin->catch
sorry for the crappy camera quality and no slow mo -
Date: Sun, Nov 16 2008 09:15:32
What Am I doing?
(Sorry for the drops, I need a Tripod for my camera. xD)
I think its Devil's Sonic -> Index Around , But my Shadow Uses the end of the pen rather than the middle.
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Date: Sun, Nov 16 2008 10:15:45QUOTE (NinjaKai @ Nov 16 2008, 03:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>What Am I doing?
(Sorry for the drops, I need a Tripod for my camera. xD)
I think its Devil's Sonic -> Index Around , But my Shadow Uses the end of the pen rather than the middle.
Spoiler:
I think your doing a: Charge 23 --> Wiper Rev 23-23 --> MA 23-23 --> Pass Rev 23-12 --> IA 12-12 (The MA and IA may be FL)
at 00:22 seconds you did something different which looked like: Devil's Shadow 12-12 --> FL IA (Bak Rev)12-12
FL = Fingerless
IA = IndexAround
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Date: Mon, Nov 17 2008 00:09:15QUOTE (Outsmash @ Nov 16 2008, 02:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I think your doing a: Charge 23 --> Wiper Rev 23-23 --> MA 23-23 --> Pass Rev 23-12 --> IA 12-12 (The MA and IA may be FL)
at 00:22 seconds you did something different which looked like: Devil's Shadow 12-12 --> FL IA (Bak Rev)12-12
FL = Fingerless
IA = IndexAround
MA = MiddleAround
Okay that makes more sense. Thanks. -
Date: Wed, Nov 19 2008 07:06:12
Okay, I just got this. Is this trick has a name? i'm refering to the trick which is like a FL reverse spin (i don't know.....). to be exact, the very last trick.
a 0.5 rev.
(my) default catch is on T12 slot, although 12 is possible too. -
Date: Wed, Nov 19 2008 08:08:58QUOTE (Raito @ Nov 19 2008, 02:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Okay, I just got this. Is this trick has a name? i'm refering to the trick which is like a FL reverse spin (i don't know.....). to be exact, the very last trick.
a 0.5 rev.
(my) default catch is on T12 slot, although 12 is possible too.
I'm not sure if it had an official name
Eso called it at his tutorial " Flick " .... http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=m8Qy6nsHW6M
but I usually called it myself Korean FL fake reverse = =
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Date: Thu, Nov 27 2008 01:21:15
What is this ?
Thanks !
PS : Sorry for the bad quality ! -
Date: Thu, Nov 27 2008 01:52:03
Shadow 23-12
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Date: Thu, Nov 27 2008 06:32:43
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj7S6ktiiJg
1:39-1:40...
the aerial trick... -
Date: Thu, Nov 27 2008 06:36:36
Looked like an Fl Ringaround Reverse Riser, but it could have been mid...
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Date: Thu, Nov 27 2008 18:22:09
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NMFULfNz28
sry for the bad quality...
u find my question in the video description... -
Date: Thu, Nov 27 2008 18:32:36
The pen doesn't go around the indexfinger and it starts with a Devil's Sonic?
Then it would be Devil's Sonic ~ Pinkyaround or Devil's Sonic ~> fl Pinkyaround. -
Date: Thu, Nov 27 2008 19:23:05
i dont get it...it is kind of like the trick that eriror does pretty often, the indexpinkybackaround or whatever...though it doesnt start in a twisted sonic bust, but in a devils sonic...the devils sonic is not completed but the pen continues spinning over my hand and then theres this fingerless pinkyaround...so could it be a devils sonic/fl pinkyaround hybrid or sth like that?
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Date: Thu, Nov 27 2008 19:37:22QUOTE.so could it be a devils sonic/fl pinkyaround hybrid or sth like that?
@eraser, that's what Pudels said. -
Date: Thu, Nov 27 2008 21:43:26QUOTE (Pudels Kern @ Nov 27 2008, 07:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Pinkyaround or Devil's Sonic ~> fl Pinkyaround.
well imo thats not the same thing as a devils sonic fl PA hybrid, is it?
or is it a kind of PS-pro expression that i cant understand yet? ^^
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Date: Fri, Nov 28 2008 06:40:40QUOTE (sangara @ Nov 27 2008, 05:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Looked like an Fl Ringaround Reverse Riser, but it could have been mid...
whoops i meant the landing trick...
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Date: Fri, Nov 28 2008 09:30:40QUOTE (Kari-Chan @ Nov 27 2008, 10:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>whoops i meant the landing trick...
i think that's a Fake Rev (not sure how many rotations) that he uses to catch the pen -
Date: Fri, Nov 28 2008 15:23:43
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Date: Fri, Nov 28 2008 21:28:12QUOTE (eraser_IV @ Nov 27 2008, 10:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>well imo thats not the same thing as a devils sonic fl PA hybrid, is it?
or is it a kind of PS-pro expression that i cant understand yet? ^^
"~"
"~>"
">~"
These symbols are used to describe hybrids. I'm too lazy to explain them so just check the wiki: HERE (ignore the "nesting" part)
The devil's Sonic is interrupted by a Pinkyaround. I can't see a big difference between pushing the pen with the whole hand to perform the pinkyaround (=devil's Sonic ~> fl PA*) and just moving your hand slightly to let the pen go around the pinky without pushing the pen again (devil's Sonic ~ PA).
*you could also call it a fl PA 0.75 because the trick starts on top of the hand and not in 34 so it's not a whole rotation. It's not an interupted trick because it is pushed and stuff like around 0.5;.75;1.5 are real tricks. -
Date: Sat, Nov 29 2008 13:16:29
Am I doing Extended TA or Tornado? Or are both tricks the same but different naming?
I'm kinda doing Thumbaround Normal T1-T1 -> Bak Rev 12 though.
Thanks in advance. -
Date: Thu, Dec 4 2008 23:47:32
Hi guys ^^
I have 3 doubts about 3 tricks i do, they will be easily recognized by you, i hope
Thanks in advance -
Date: Fri, Dec 5 2008 16:27:09QUOTE (Vikroal @ Dec 5 2008, 05:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hi guys ^^
I have 3 doubts about 3 tricks i do, they will be easily recognized by you, i hope
Thanks in advance
#1: Pass 12-23 > FL Charge Rev 23 (since you used only motion)
#2: FL TF Charge Rev.
#3: Wiper Rev T1-T1 > Pass T1-23 > Twisted Sonic 23-12 > Pass Rev 12-T1 (Start from beginning again.. Repeatedly) -
Date: Sun, Dec 7 2008 13:30:45
I was learning sonic clip and I ended up doing this can you tell me what the tricks name is?
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Date: Sun, Dec 7 2008 14:56:14QUOTE (timon9182 @ Dec 7 2008, 08:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I was learning sonic clip and I ended up doing this can you tell me what the tricks name is?
I used to be hooked to this trick.. I used to call it a Sonic-In-Sonic cuz you do a sonic and then another sonic that comes partially after the first one.. w/e lol. What you do is a:
Sonic Clip 34-23 ~> Sonic 24-12
Note: "~>" means that the first trick is partially performed and the second trick is fully performed.
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Date: Tue, Dec 9 2008 13:19:28
Here i come again with new doubt u__u
i think they're all the same trick with different finger catching, but i really don't know :/
Thanks in advance ^^ -
Date: Tue, Dec 9 2008 15:45:50QUOTE (Vikroal @ Dec 9 2008, 06:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Here i come again with new doubt u__u
i think they're all the same trick with different finger catching, but i really don't know :/
Thanks in advance ^^
Not all of them are devils sonic.
1st Trick --> Devil's Around 23-23 ~ MPBA Rev 23-1234P
2nd Trick --> Devil's Around 23-23 (I forgot.. I think it was that)
3rd Trick --> Devil's Sonic 23-12
Someone correct me if I'm wrong (cuz I think i am somewhere.gif)
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Date: Tue, Dec 9 2008 23:58:51QUOTE (Outsmash @ Dec 9 2008, 04:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Not all of them are devils sonic.
1st Trick --> Devil's Around 23-23 ~ MPBA Rev 23-1234P
2nd Trick --> Devil's Around 23-23 (I forgot.. I think it was that)
3rd Trick --> Devil's Sonic 23-12
Someone correct me if I'm wrong (cuz I think i am somewhere)
Uhmm, 2 questions
What does mean MPBA? MiddlePinkyBackAround?:/ ^^U
2nd one...why (the 2nd one) it's a Devil's Around 23-23 if it ends in 34?
Anyway, thank you, you always solve my doubts
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Date: Wed, Dec 10 2008 03:58:05
The trick that ends in 34 doesn't have a name, its a hybrid, the one that ends in 23 is devil's around, the one that ends in 12 is devil's sonic. And the one that ends by going outside your pinky is probably what outsmash said, when he says devil's around 23-23 ~> MPBA rev me means that you start by doing a devil's around and then do a MPBA rev. The way that he named it makes since to me.
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Date: Wed, Dec 10 2008 13:02:18QUOTE (schlynn @ Dec 10 2008, 04:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The trick that ends in 34 doesn't have a name, its a hybrid, the one that ends in 23 is devil's around, the one that ends in 12 is devil's sonic. And the one that ends by going outside your pinky is probably what outsmash said, when he says devil's around 23-23 ~> MPBA rev me means that you start by doing a devil's around and then do a MPBA rev. The way that he named it makes since to me.
What i meant when i said "What means MPBA?" was the meaning of MPBA, like FL IA it's Fingerless Indexaround, what MPBA stands for
Btw, thx for the info about the hybrid trick ^^
EDIT: Ok, solved, it's MiddlePinkyBackAround
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Date: Thu, Dec 11 2008 10:47:58QUOTE (Vikroal @ Dec 10 2008, 06:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>What i meant when i said "What means MPBA?" was the meaning of MPBA, like FL IA it's Fingerless Indexaround, what MPBA stands for
Btw, thx for the info about the hybrid trick ^^
EDIT: Ok, solved, it's MiddlePinkyBackAround
That and you can also name the combo as:
Devil's Around 23-23 ~ PinkAround [c 1234P] -
Date: Fri, Dec 12 2008 02:30:41
Snaparound?
wtf is this?
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Date: Fri, Dec 12 2008 02:40:55
Hrm second vid was just Sonic 12-12 I did it in this vid as my opening trick:
About the snaparound I'm not personally familiar with it but it's supposed to be a Thumbaround Normal variation. -
Date: Fri, Dec 12 2008 03:05:10
pseudo side sonic
the first one was a flick -
Date: Fri, Dec 12 2008 07:58:37
The first one was that trick I posted as a "new trick" and sketching told me it was a snaparound rev
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Date: Fri, Dec 12 2008 17:59:42
@Fall: Second video seems to be Sonic Clip?
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Date: Fri, Dec 12 2008 18:25:31
wtf... deffinetly not sonic clip... I think Shadow is right
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Date: Fri, Dec 12 2008 20:06:50
What is this?
sorry about the weird effect or whatever. It got that when I uploaded it. -
Date: Sat, Dec 13 2008 09:19:47
It's a: (I'm guessing)
1st Trick: Shadow Riser 23 ~> Top Spin [c 12]
2nd Trick: Shadow Riser 23 ~> Top Spin [c 23] -
Date: Sat, Dec 13 2008 11:29:31QUOTE (Outsmash @ Dec 13 2008, 05:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>It's a: (I'm guessing)
1st Trick: Shadow Riser 23 ~> Top Spin [c 12]
2nd Trick: Shadow Riser 23 ~> Top Spin [c 23]
How is it notated...?
Shadow Riser (insert rotation) 23-12 and 23-23? Or is the interrupted top spin necessary?
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Date: Sat, Dec 13 2008 12:49:25QUOTE (Scandiacus @ Dec 13 2008, 05:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>How is it notated...?
Shadow Riser (insert rotation) 23-12 and 23-23? Or is the interrupted top spin necessary?
The shadow riser is not completed. It lands on the top of the hand which does not have any specific slot. If it did then i would have been:
"Shadow Riser 23-top" or something like that.
If you want you can put the rotation but since it's an aerial, that's just a waste. I'm not very sure about the catch of the top spin (Top Spin [c 23/12]) but that's the only way to notate it. You do finish the shadow but I dont think interrupted notation states how to interrupt a trick in the middle of the first trick and finish the first trick also. eg:
Trick 1 start ~> Trick 2 >~ Trick 1 end. It may be there.. I'm not sure
Maybe a right notation would also be:
1st part of shadow (idk what it is) [p] [s 0.5] 23-23 > Baktap Riser [p] [s x.x] > Fingerless Baktap Continous [s 2.0 (top spin)] > 1st part of shadow reverse [s 0.5] [c 23]
1st part of shadow reverse would be that charge motion but since it lands form below the hand to the top, I dont think there a specific name.
EDIT: wait.. so that'll be a "Shadow Riser 23 [p] [s x.x] ~> Top Spin >~ Shadow [s 0.5] [c 23/12]
Since it's a : 1st part of shadow > top spin > last part of shadow -
Date: Wed, Dec 17 2008 16:04:23
yooh!
So, Im not sure by watching only video and being the only one who gives the conclusion.
So, is this twisted sonic or not? If not, what Im doing wrong? -
Date: Wed, Dec 17 2008 18:24:12
yes, thats twisted sonic.
I also moved your thread into this one. -
Date: Wed, Dec 17 2008 19:07:03
Awesome.
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Date: Mon, Dec 22 2008 05:07:41
what is this? i accidently came up with this when i was practicing tw bust...and i invented (o.O?) this out of no where. some please telll me what this is.
and i apoligize for not having slow-mo and such, but something is wrong with my windows movie maker. -
Date: Mon, Dec 22 2008 07:32:11
Twisted Sonic 23-12 ~> IndexRingBackaround 12-34 ?
Can't really see much -
Date: Mon, Dec 22 2008 09:26:48QUOTE (Jtrophy @ Dec 22 2008, 11:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Spoiler:
what is this? i accidently came up with this when i was practicing tw bust...and i invented (o.O?) this out of no where. some please telll me what this is.
and i apoligize for not having slow-mo and such, but something is wrong with my windows movie maker.
It was pretty hard but:
Twisted Sonic 23-12 > IndexRingBackaround Reverse 1.5 12-34.
@Scandiacus: It's a bak rev, there is not interrupted notation and the IRBA Rev is 1.5. -
Date: Mon, Dec 22 2008 14:12:56
i think there is an interrupted notation
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Date: Mon, Dec 22 2008 14:44:40QUOTE (Noob @ Dec 22 2008, 07:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i think there is an interrupted notation
How?
If there was interrupted notation then it's be like:
Twisted Sonic Bust 23-12 ~ IRBA Rev 1.5 12-34 -
Date: Mon, Dec 22 2008 20:54:55
thank you outsmash and scandiacus for helping me with that small combo ^^
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Date: Tue, Dec 23 2008 11:15:30
Sonic 34-?? ~> Inverse Sonic ??-13 ~> Neosonic 13-T1 ?
Fill in the gaps/correct me, please.
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Date: Wed, Dec 24 2008 02:36:01QUOTE (Ogarathe @ Dec 23 2008, 12:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Sonic 34-?? ~> Inverse Sonic ??-13 ~> Neosonic 13-T1 ?
Fill in the gaps/correct me, please.
~ Thanks in advance
That's Sonic 34-13 > PassAround 13-T1. -
Date: Wed, Dec 24 2008 05:33:45QUOTE (TheOnion @ Dec 24 2008, 09:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>That's Sonic 34-13 > PassAround 13-T1.
looks like Sonic 34-23 ~>Inverse Sonic 23-12 ( a.k.a. Out-in sonic ) ~> Gunman T1 for me though -
Date: Wed, Dec 24 2008 05:36:17QUOTE (GSkyrunnerメDGN @ Dec 24 2008, 04:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>looks like Sonic 34-23 ~>Inverse Sonic 23-12 ( a.k.a. Out-in sonic ) ~> Gunman T1 for me though
Pen never touches 2 though, so don't think that's right. -
Date: Thu, Dec 25 2008 00:43:39QUOTE (GSkyrunnerメDGN @ Dec 24 2008, 06:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>looks like Sonic 34-23 ~>Inverse Sonic 23-12 ( a.k.a. Out-in sonic ) ~> Gunman T1 for me though
If you slow it down, you will see that it definitely is sonic 34-13 > passaround(/gunman/0.5indexaround/neosonic/whatever) 13-t1. -
Date: Thu, Dec 25 2008 04:52:46QUOTE (TheOnion @ Dec 25 2008, 07:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>If you slow it down, you will see that it definitely is sonic 34-13 > passaround(/gunman/0.5indexaround/neosonic/whatever) 13-t1.
PassAround/.5 IA is not the same as NeoSonic. Different directions.
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Date: Thu, Dec 25 2008 12:11:34QUOTE (Outsmash @ Dec 25 2008, 03:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>PassAround/.5 IA is not the same as NeoSonic. Different directions.
Very true, didn't even realise that, it would be reverse passaround, right? -
Date: Thu, Dec 25 2008 14:48:42QUOTE (Ogarathe @ Dec 25 2008, 01:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Very true, didn't even realise that, it would be reverse passaround, right?
Yes, right. Made the mistake of thinking of passaround as a pass, when I should have thought of it as an around. It is passaround reverse 13-t1. -
Date: Sat, Dec 27 2008 00:08:57
what are zunda and natural doing at :04 to :06 -
Date: Sun, Dec 28 2008 20:15:01
Did this by accident... What is it? -
Date: Sun, Dec 28 2008 20:37:05
THAT would be a ex ta extended thumb around
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Date: Sun, Dec 28 2008 20:41:48
No, it is not an ex ta extended thumbaround... Which, btw, would mean extended thumbaround extended thumbaround...
More like ex ta ~ ??? -
Date: Sun, Dec 28 2008 21:55:05QUOTE (Zweebna @ Dec 28 2008, 12:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>No, it is not an ex ta extended thumbaround... Which, btw, would mean extended thumbaround extended thumbaround...
More like ex ta ~ ???
What are you talking about? Digital Love is right, it's an Extended Thumbaround. -
Date: Sun, Dec 28 2008 23:05:24
Oooh, wait, I was thinking of something else, nevermind, it is ex ta. Thanks
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Date: Tue, Dec 30 2008 03:20:17
What am I doing? I'm holding the pen between my index and middle and am doing a pinky bak. Is it just a pinky bak with a weird hold or is it something else?
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Date: Tue, Dec 30 2008 05:24:40QUOTE (homesliceme @ Dec 30 2008, 04:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>What am I doing? I'm holding the pen between my index and middle and am doing a pinky bak. Is it just a pinky bak with a weird hold or is it something else?
Yes that would just be a pinkybak started from a different position, pinkybak 12-34. -
Date: Tue, Dec 30 2008 15:50:11
Thanks.
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Date: Sat, Jan 3 2009 21:24:12
I breathe loud...
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Date: Sun, Jan 4 2009 05:36:25
I'm not sure about the first video, but the second one looks like a scissor spin
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Date: Sun, Jan 4 2009 05:54:01
First one is a shadow rev T1-12 0.5
Second one is a scissor spin > corkscrew I would say. -
Date: Sun, Jan 4 2009 05:56:16
First one is a fake reverse but with a fingerless push.
Second one is scissor spin, just done at the end of the fingers. -
Date: Sun, Jan 4 2009 17:37:13QUOTE (Tim @ Jan 3 2009, 09:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>First one is a fake reverse but with a fingerless push.
Second one is scissor spin, just done at the end of the fingers.
Agreed. And Tim, why the name change?
EDIT: nvm, you just have the same avatar as someone else XD whoops. -
Date: Mon, Jan 5 2009 00:43:41
I did this in 1st grade and just remembered it.
The pen is held close to the end with about an inch hanging off of the hold on the inside. I hold the pen between thumb and middle, let it sway towards the outside of my hand, then flick it back with my index finger.
I have no clue if this is a new trick or if it's just some weird infinity thingy. Help? -
Date: Mon, Jan 5 2009 23:35:22
video please?
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Date: Wed, Jan 7 2009 07:11:33
uhm... lits?
fl ta rev ~ handaround rev ~ fl ta rev? -
Date: Wed, Jan 7 2009 11:04:37QUOTE (Shadowserpant @ Jan 7 2009, 12:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think that's a HandAround Normal. -
Date: Sun, Jan 11 2009 14:11:31
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Date: Sun, Jan 11 2009 14:40:15QUOTE (Janselmi @ Jan 11 2009, 10:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Can't really see much and I'm lazy to download the video to slow-mo it.
The first part looks kinda like a Bak but for the second part...your middle finger pushed the pen...amirite? -
Date: Sun, Jan 11 2009 14:45:59
I guess.
So what is that. -
Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 00:56:54
It looks to me like IndexAround Reverse rotating at a slightly tilted angle. Backarounds are fingerless. -
Date: Sun, Jan 18 2009 03:14:46
it seems pretty simple, but I can't find a name...
any help?
Sorry for crappy video quality, it's the best I've got.
Thanks! -
Date: Sun, Jan 18 2009 08:50:46QUOTE (G.lanz @ Jan 18 2009, 09:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>it seems pretty simple, but I can't find a name...
any help?
Sorry for crappy video quality, it's the best I've got.
Thanks!
that had quite good video clarity.
Anyways it's a:
Rev TA Release (with a different kind of push) T1-123P (or w/e you caught it with). It may be FL (FingerLess).
The push is more of a "push" like motion than "scratch". It's like doing a IA Rev but with your thumb. -
Date: Sun, Jan 18 2009 08:57:54
What's the trick after the TF Charge Rev? TA Rev 0.5? Fake Reverse?
Been accidentally doing this when I'm doing the NeoSonic -> FL TA Rev. -
Date: Sun, Jan 18 2009 09:26:35QUOTE (Scandiacus @ Jan 18 2009, 02:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>What's the trick after the TF Charge Rev? TA Rev 0.5? Fake Reverse?
Been accidentally doing this when I'm doing the NeoSonic -> FL TA Rev.
I would say:TF Charge Rev > FL TS/TA Rev [p TF] [s 0.5] [c T12]. I would say TS but I'm not sure.
Like Freeman said: It is an:
FL Shadow Rev TF-TF -
Date: Sun, Jan 18 2009 09:41:54
I've seen that many times as a Fl Shadow Rev TF-TF
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Date: Sun, Jan 18 2009 09:53:30
Fuck I never thought of that. Yes, it is an FL Shadow Rev TF-TF
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Date: Sun, Jan 18 2009 10:31:48
what the fuck that trick exists? never heard of it before.
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Date: Sun, Jan 18 2009 11:06:30QUOTE (Freeman @ Jan 18 2009, 05:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I've seen that many times as a Fl Shadow Rev TF-TF
Holy crap I didn't know it existed. Anyway, it's a 0.5 rotation btw. So it's still a Shadow..?
FL TF Charge Rev 1.0 ->0.5 TF-TF -
Date: Sun, Jan 18 2009 13:17:04QUOTE (Outsmash @ Jan 18 2009, 03:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>that had quite good video clarity.
Anyways it's a:
Rev TA Release (with a different kind of push) T1-123P (or w/e you caught it with). It may be FL (FingerLess).
The push is more of a "push" like motion than "scratch". It's like doing a IA Rev but with your thumb.
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Date: Sun, Jan 18 2009 16:55:54QUOTE (Scandiacus @ Jan 18 2009, 05:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Holy crap I didn't know it existed. Anyway, it's a 0.5 rotation btw. So it's still a Shadow..?
FL TF Charge Rev 1.0 ->0.5 TF-TF
It somewhat counts the TF Charge Rev and the catch motion so it's a nomal "FL Shadow Rev TF-TF".
or also known as "Neobak TF-TF". -
Date: Mon, Jan 19 2009 07:23:04
Same trick with a heavier pen.
In the NeoSonic combo. -
Date: Mon, Jan 19 2009 20:59:26
What is an antigravity palm up called?
Just antigravity palm up? -
Date: Mon, Jan 19 2009 21:49:53QUOTE (Scandiacus @ Jan 18 2009, 11:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Same trick with a heavier pen.
Spoiler:
I think that's a Fingerless Halftap Reverse. -
Date: Wed, Jan 21 2009 09:17:11QUOTE (homesliceme @ Jan 20 2009, 02:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>What is an antigravity palm up called?
Just antigravity palm up?
Just correcting you here: Antigravity is not used anymore. Use "Index Around Reverse 11-11" next time or "IA Rev 11-11". And Palm Up, Palm Down are all the same. No need for new notations. But if you do want to specify you could just say Palm Up/Down in Brackets. -
Date: Sun, Jan 25 2009 19:59:09
so what am I doing here?
I do a wiper rev, let go of the pen. It spins behind my hand and over top of it, and it is caught from the position it started in. (a hybrid aerial?) -
Date: Mon, Jan 26 2009 03:27:17QUOTE (G.lanz @ Jan 26 2009, 01:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>so what am I doing here?
I do a wiper rev, let go of the pen. It spins behind my hand and over top of it, and it is caught from the position it started in. (a hybrid aerial?)
I think A wiper rev riser..
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Date: Tue, Jan 27 2009 06:02:00
Im wondering what the trick is called where it spins in a charge like motion with the index finger and thumb, its seen here, the second trick in the video.
This is not me!
OH, and if someone could breakdown the whole combo, id be very greatful. -
Date: Tue, Jan 27 2009 06:04:33QUOTE (Sl3uth @ Jan 27 2009, 01:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Im wondering what the trick is called where it spins in a charge like motion with the index finger and thumb, its seen here, the second trick in the video.
[vid]
This is not me!
lol... exactly what you're describing it as... a T1 Charge -
Date: Tue, Jan 27 2009 16:41:55QUOTE (JC @ Jan 27 2009, 01:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>lol... exactly what you're describing it as... a T1 Charge
Ima nub at PS, sorry. ANyway thanks.
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Date: Wed, Jan 28 2009 00:39:22QUOTE (G.lanz @ Jan 17 2009, 07:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>it seems pretty simple, but I can't find a name...
any help?
Sorry for crappy video quality, it's the best I've got.
Thanks!
Wiper rev. release/riser? I used it a lot in my old spammy combos... -
Date: Thu, Jan 29 2009 08:54:20
i was doing some thumbarounds with T2-T2, then i realized if i can use the middle finger to flick the pen as it goes infront of it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUyO5rlJkA0
sorry if it was blurry, it looked clear as i was recording it,
what am i doing? (riverboy named it thumb flick)
Is this a new trick?
p.s. oh yeah, dont try it with DR. KTs infront of people
edit: here's a clearer one, i hope you get it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0Ml_qFh6jA -
Date: Thu, Jan 29 2009 16:08:41QUOTE (Kurteous! @ Jan 29 2009, 05:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i was doing some thumbarounds with T2-T2, then i realized if i can use the middle finger to flick the pen as it goes infront of it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUyO5rlJkA0
sorry if it was blurry, it looked clear as i was recording it,
what am i doing? (riverboy named it thumb flick)
Is this a new trick?
p.s. oh yeah, dont try it with DR. KTs infront of people
edit: here's a clearer one, i hope you get it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0Ml_qFh6jA
Why don't you try it palm perpendicular to the ground ? This could be insert in a combo with practice as an aerial trick... or to throw your pen in your left hand then spinning it again. -
Date: Thu, Jan 29 2009 20:12:36
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Date: Thu, Jan 29 2009 22:59:58
First one is either TA reverse T1-T1, if you spin it on the thumb, or a fake reverse if you spin it on the index and thumb.
Second one looks like a demon's sonic 23-t1, but I think I would have to slow it down to be sure.
Third one is a devil's around 23-34. -
Date: Fri, Jan 30 2009 15:54:09
1st: Either Fake Reverse of Fulltap Rev
2nd: Errrr...Demon Sonic 23-T1? Twisted Sonic 23-12 -> FL Pass (?) 12-T1/Bak Rev 0.5 12-T1?
3rd: Eh, Devil's Around 23-34? -
Date: Tue, Feb 3 2009 03:31:54
I don't have a video of this trick because I don't have recording tools but I think the written description should be pretty simple...
Basically you just do a regular thumbaroud then quickly tilt your hand towards you so that the palm is down and the pen spins for x number of revolutions on your pointer, middle, and ring fingers, then you catch it like a shadow.
Is there a name for that? -
Date: Tue, Feb 3 2009 05:39:53QUOTE (lolwut @ Feb 2 2009, 07:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I don't have a video of this trick because I don't have recording tools but I think the written description should be pretty simple...
Basically you just do a regular thumbaroud then quickly tilt your hand towards you so that the palm is down and the pen spins for x number of revolutions on your pointer, middle, and ring fingers, then you catch it like a shadow.
Is there a name for that?
I suppose you can call that TA -> fl shadow T1-slot that you catch in
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Date: Tue, Feb 3 2009 06:36:43QUOTE (lolwut @ Feb 3 2009, 04:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I don't have a video of this trick because I don't have recording tools but I think the written description should be pretty simple...
Basically you just do a regular thumbaroud then quickly tilt your hand towards you so that the palm is down and the pen spins for x number of revolutions on your pointer, middle, and ring fingers, then you catch it like a shadow.
Is there a name for that?
You could probably call it something like a TA t12-t1 ~ (korean) backspin reverse x.x(rotations) t1-xx(finishing slot). If it doesn't spin on the fingers in the end you could just call it Ext. TA t12-(finishing slot). -
Date: Sun, Feb 8 2009 03:22:39QUOTE (ellusion @ Sep 9 2007, 04:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>do somebody known what is the offical name of this tricks...
i mean this
maybe that's a (not officail name though) teambak? helped bak? or some name cooler... -
Date: Sun, Feb 8 2009 04:20:31
I think you would call the combo in the video in the quote above: Korean Backaround 0.5 12-t1 > Indexaround reverse t1-t1.
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Date: Sun, Feb 8 2009 19:39:54
this is a NOOB question but uh, is this a FL TA cause i was just messin around and i did one so i wanna make sure this is an FL TA. sorry no slomo
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Date: Sun, Feb 8 2009 20:05:56
You used more of an Index push, it should look something like this:
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Date: Sun, Feb 8 2009 20:13:14QUOTE (sangara @ Feb 8 2009, 03:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
thanks ill try working to stop pushing with my index -
Date: Mon, Feb 9 2009 08:34:34
What aerial did Rae do at the end of this combo? And how do i do it? Thanks.
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Date: Mon, Feb 9 2009 23:51:53QUOTE (Asterisk* @ Feb 9 2009, 09:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>What aerial did Rae do at the end of this combo? And how do i do it? Thanks.
Spoiler:
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Date: Tue, Feb 10 2009 04:32:04QUOTE (TheOnion @ Feb 9 2009, 03:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I think you would call that a ThumbAround Release t2-12.
i think it's called TA Extended Release... or Tornado release -
Date: Wed, Feb 11 2009 14:15:13
ok i might post it wrong but whatever..
in JapEn 3rd Outsider's clip
he did this flick.. around.. 00.19
in JapEn 2nd PS-728's clip
he also did the same flick (i think)
around.. 01.46
what is that "flick" called and any tuts? @_@ -
Date: Tue, Feb 17 2009 21:19:48
what trick is done at about 0:34? It's the one where he throws the pen in a reverse motion on top of his finger.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LYinYflHnE...player_embedded -
Date: Tue, Feb 17 2009 21:56:58QUOTE (G.lanz @ Feb 17 2009, 10:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>what trick is done at about 0:34? It's the one where he throws the pen in a reverse motion on top of his finger.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LYinYflHnE...player_embedded
That's a fingerless thumbaround reverse. -
Date: Thu, Feb 19 2009 06:16:13
Just a trick I do in class i dont know how i do it but I just do. Can anyone please tell me the trick name.
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Date: Thu, Feb 19 2009 07:47:24
yo mach5 i believe that is an extended TA.
anyone correct me if i'm wrong but i'm pretty sure.. -
Date: Thu, Feb 19 2009 11:17:50
Definitely Ext TA and not Tornado.
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Date: Thu, Feb 19 2009 23:46:18QUOTE (Scandiacus @ Feb 19 2009, 03:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Definitely Ext TA and not Tornado.
yea thats what im confused about. What is the difference betweena tornado and ex Ta? -
Date: Thu, Feb 19 2009 23:49:08QUOTE (Mach5 @ Feb 19 2009, 03:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>yea thats what im confused about. What is the difference betweena tornado and ex Ta?
Tornado has a Pass Reverse 12-T1 added. -
Date: Fri, Feb 20 2009 12:22:54QUOTE (sangara @ Feb 20 2009, 07:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Tornado has a Pass Reverse 12-T1 added.
Isn't that Fake Double instead...?
And IIRC, Ext TA = TA T1-12 1.0 -> IA T1-12(?) 0.5, total 1.5 revo
And Tornado = TA 1.0 -> Bak Rev 1.0, total 2 revo
amirite?
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Date: Fri, Feb 20 2009 12:28:49QUOTE (Scandiacus @ Feb 20 2009, 07:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Isn't that Fake Double instead...?
And IIRC, Ext TA = TA T1-12 1.0 -> IA T1-12(?) 0.5, total 1.5 revo
And Tornado = TA 1.0 -> Bak Rev 1.0, total 2 revo
amirite?
to get a 1.0 revo of bak rev it has to go back to t1 slot its the same thing.gif)
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Date: Fri, Feb 20 2009 21:52:07
Could someone tell me what trick is being done between 0:15 --> 0:27 in this video??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trdc6fApFy8
i've seen it couple of times but dno the name of it. Thanks -
Date: Sat, Feb 21 2009 00:51:09QUOTE (Pen Islandâ„¢ @ Feb 20 2009, 10:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Could someone tell me what trick is being done between 0:15 --> 0:27 in this video??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trdc6fApFy8
i've seen it couple of times but dno the name of it. Thanks
That's triangle pass reverse fellowed by some fingerpass normal. -
Date: Sat, Feb 21 2009 00:54:42
Tornado is the Japanese name for fake double.
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Date: Sat, Feb 21 2009 02:54:54
hey, i have a video here and im not sure what im doing. i did a neobak 12-34, sonic 34-23, twisted sonic bust 23-12, then another neobak but before catching it i let it spin a few revolutions on my index finger, whats this called?
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Date: Sat, Feb 21 2009 13:05:03QUOTE (silverix @ Feb 21 2009, 10:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>hey, i have a video here and im not sure what im doing. i did a neobak 12-34, sonic 34-23, twisted sonic bust 23-12, then another neobak but before catching it i let it spin a few revolutions on my index finger, whats this called?
i cant count the spins but its just a neobak 3.0 (or 3.5 or 2.5... i dno) 12-34
now my turn
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Date: Sun, Feb 22 2009 00:13:59QUOTE (WhiteBlue @ Feb 12 2009, 01:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>ok i might post it wrong but whatever..
in JapEn 3rd Outsider's clip
he did this flick.. around.. 00.19
in JapEn 2nd PS-728's clip
he also did the same flick (i think)
around.. 01.46
what is that "flick" called and any tuts? @_@
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Date: Mon, Feb 23 2009 05:20:38
uhhh some help -
Date: Mon, Feb 23 2009 10:35:42QUOTE (Digital Love @ Feb 23 2009, 01:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
uhhh some help
just looks like tw sonic 23-12 > ia
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Date: Tue, Feb 24 2009 16:47:42
What is the name of this hybrid?
What is the breakdown on this combo? -
Date: Tue, Feb 24 2009 17:18:27
@LiEn, that first hybrid is an Angel Sonic, which consists on Twisted Sonic 34-23 ~ Sonic 23-12
The second is Sonic 34-23 ~ Pass 24-12 -
Date: Thu, Feb 26 2009 16:18:56
Hello! i've come up with new idea recently... and i was just wondering if someone has already "invented" it or if it has or deserves its own name:
what i mean is the part like "AntiGravity P1-12 [s 0.5] > (?)" [i have no idea how to breakdown this :f], it can be done after palmspin, TA etc.
so... what do you think?
and could someone breakdown it, please? -
Date: Thu, Feb 26 2009 16:29:05
we can call it palmdown fingerless indexaroudn 11 i think
use "What am i doing" thread next time -
Date: Thu, Feb 26 2009 21:19:20
not really new
ive seen variations of that alot lately -
Date: Fri, Feb 27 2009 09:34:35
iv been wondering how these two tricks are named? thanks -
Date: Fri, Feb 27 2009 20:47:55
That is not someting new.
The name is just "pass 11-12" =) -
Date: Fri, Feb 27 2009 22:14:44QUOTE (Zombo @ Feb 26 2009, 05:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>we can call it palmdown fingerless indexaroudn 11 i think
use "What am i doing" thread next time
it can't be around trick, cuz the pen doesn't spin around any finger...QUOTE (lindor @ Feb 27 2009, 09:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>That is not someting new.
The name is just "pass 11-12" =)
ummm... that can be true ^^ thanks alot, i've been thinking for long time about how to name or breakdown it
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Date: Sat, Feb 28 2009 09:42:30QUOTE (Fuco @ Feb 26 2009, 09:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hello! i've come up with new idea recently... and i was just wondering if someone has already "invented" it or if it has or deserves its own name:
Spoiler:
what i mean is the part like "AntiGravity P1-12 [s 0.5] > (?)" [i have no idea how to breakdown this :f], it can be done after palmspin, TA etc.
so... what do you think?
and could someone breakdown it, please?
@Zomob: Not an around.
It's a pass 11-12 (like lindor had said)QUOTE (SoManyShrimp @ Feb 27 2009, 03:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Spoiler:
iv been wondering how these two tricks are named? thanks
Pass Reverse 23-34 > Tossed TA [p 34] ~ IndexAround [c 12]
(OR)
Pass Reverse 23-34 > Extended Tossed TA 34-12
Where,
TA = ThumbAround
1 = Index finger
2 = Middle finger
3 = Ring finger
4 = Little finger (Pinky)
12, 23, 34 = Slots between the respective fingers. -
Date: Sat, Feb 28 2009 09:52:44
around 0.5 (@fuco)
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Date: Mon, Mar 2 2009 19:22:01QUOTE (Pen Ninja @ Feb 23 2009, 06:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>just looks like tw sonic 23-12 > ia
>.>
It looks like Twisted Sonic 23-12 but the pen is in the air instead of landing, it goes for half revolution (0.5) in the air, and u catch it with 12 Correct? -
Date: Mon, Mar 2 2009 20:44:21
can anyone name the first one hybrid?
ninja edit: youtube kille the quality >.< so here it is the
download link -
Date: Tue, Mar 3 2009 12:48:48QUOTE (TennisD @ Mar 3 2009, 03:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>It looks like Twisted Sonic 23-12 but the pen is in the air instead of landing, it goes for half revolution (0.5) in the air, and u catch it with 12 Correct?
mine or digital love's? DL's looks like the ia shouldnt be aerial... just how he did the trick... the ia being fingers vertical may bbe the questionable thing... but its still just ia
mine r weird tho... theres no push really... -
Date: Wed, Mar 4 2009 01:07:26QUOTE (Pen Ninja @ Mar 3 2009, 08:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>mine or digital love's? DL's looks like the ia shouldnt be aerial... just how he did the trick... the ia being fingers vertical may bbe the questionable thing... but its still just ia
mine r weird tho... theres no push really...
I meant Digital Love's trick because if u pause it every second you will see the is not going behind the index!!!, is just in the air and he is the one that twist his hand!! -
Date: Wed, Mar 4 2009 10:03:46QUOTE (TennisD @ Mar 4 2009, 09:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I meant Digital Love's trick because if u pause it every second you will see the is not going behind the index!!!, is just in the air and he is the one that twist his hand!!
i disagree, the angle is akward to tell from but im sure its around -
Date: Fri, Mar 6 2009 23:34:07
Hi, I was wondering what you would call this move. I think it is like a Thumbflap Shadow, but I have no clue. Please help.
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Date: Fri, Mar 6 2009 23:38:36QUOTE (Multiplex @ Mar 6 2009, 03:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hi, I was wondering what you would call this move. I think it is like a Thumbflap Shadow, but I have no clue. Please help.
*sorry for bad quality*
FL shadow TF >12 -
Date: Sat, Mar 7 2009 03:36:16
sorry Matthew, you're wrong:
1.) all shadows are fingerless, so the FL is useless
2.) the "> 12" does not make sense. not once does the pen go in the finger slot 12 and an ">" sign shows that one trick is over and the next one is about to start and in his video, only one trick was preformed
he was pretty much right, it was a thumbflap shadow
broken down simply as: shadow TF-TF
sooo, you got it Multiplex -
Date: Sat, Mar 7 2009 04:32:57QUOTE (Jamie Enns @ Mar 6 2009, 07:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>sorry Matthew, you're wrong:
1.) all shadows are fingerless, so the FL is useless
2.) the "> 12" does not make sense. not once does the pen go in the finger slot 12 and an ">" sign shows that one trick is over and the next one is about to start and in his video, only one trick was preformed
he was pretty much right, it was a thumbflap shadow
broken down simply as: shadow TF-TF
sooo, you got it Multiplex
Shadows are not fingerless. Shadows require a push from a charge, but yes that is a thumbflap shadow. -
Date: Sat, Mar 7 2009 04:42:31
would this be a new trick? o.O
i am absolutely clueless on this part xD -
Date: Sat, Mar 7 2009 04:52:10
reverse moonwalk sonic ~ pass rev?
I dunno =/ -
Date: Sat, Mar 7 2009 10:05:32QUOTE (Kari-Chan @ Mar 7 2009, 07:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>would this be a new trick? o.O
*video here*
i am absolutely clueless on this part xD
It's a Sonic rev 23-12 (palm down) ~> pass rev 13-34 (palm vert) -
Date: Sun, Mar 8 2009 22:01:00QUOTE (OFFbI4 @ Mar 7 2009, 09:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>It's a Sonic rev 23-12 (palm down) ~> pass rev 13-34 (palm vert)
so the typing out of fingering is also important? -
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 11:08:30QUOTE (Kari-Chan @ Mar 9 2009, 06:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>so the typing out of fingering is also important?
it is indeed... mainly because we re-named moonwalk sonic rev to sonic rev 23-12... becausew some people are too stupid to remember an extra trick name -
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 23:56:02
hi i came upon this trick/hybrid:
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now its a regular/fl. TA rev which is not completed but interrupted in the middle and then continued in a bak...
so what would u call that? -
Date: Thu, Mar 12 2009 04:06:15
Here I am again. I learned how to do this awhile back but I really don't know what it is. Thank you.
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Date: Thu, Mar 12 2009 04:07:31
@Multiplex, that's a Sonic 23-12 ~> Shadow 12-12
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Date: Thu, Mar 12 2009 12:48:18QUOTE (JC @ Mar 12 2009, 12:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>@Multiplex, that's a Sonic 23-12 ~> Shadow 12-12
just looks like a shadow 23-12 to me
as for eraser, i believe thats a fake rev (or half one) > bak
its actually quite old... think they useed to call it a fake to rev or something -
Date: Thu, Mar 12 2009 13:35:53QUOTE (Pen Ninja @ Mar 12 2009, 01:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>as for eraser, i believe thats a fake rev (or half one) > bak
its actually quite old... think they useed to call it a fake to rev or something
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Date: Thu, Mar 12 2009 22:54:43
multiplex actually starts his thing off as a sonic, so if you MUST be extremely technical you could call it a sonic 23-13 ~ shadow 13-12
but that's somewhat useless, i'd suggest just doing regular shadow 23-12s -
Date: Sat, Mar 14 2009 17:20:36
Well... but if you MUST be extremely precise and historical, Shadows moving up the hand were once called Sonic 1.5. Since they're practically the same thing, Sonic 1.5 was renamed to just Shadow. Thus, a Shadow moving up the hand can just as well start with a Sonic movement as with a regular Shadow movement executed with just the two fingers holding the pen.
I'm even guessing that most people do it "the Sonic way".
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Date: Sat, Mar 14 2009 17:46:57QUOTE (eraser_IV @ Mar 11 2009, 07:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>hi i came upon this trick/hybrid:
*video
now its a regular/fl. TA rev which is not completed but interrupted in the middle and then continued in a bak...
so what would u call that?
Ta rev ~> Bak the ~> is means you interrupted a trick, so you basically said it yourself
Then you do some cont. baks and stuff -
Date: Thu, Mar 19 2009 07:21:06
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5dJY7gBZ2I
can you tell me what he's doing from 0:31 ish -
Date: Sun, Mar 22 2009 09:29:19
is that counted as a twisted sonic bust x2? Or does it fly too high? -
Date: Sun, Mar 22 2009 09:41:52QUOTE (sibis)*vid*
is that counted as a twisted sonic bust x2? Or does it fly too high?
Yes , that counted as twisted sonic bust x2
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Date: Sun, Mar 22 2009 10:15:48QUOTE (k-ryder @ Mar 19 2009, 03:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
the tipped sonic fall? -
Date: Sun, Mar 22 2009 20:18:15QUOTE (Pen Ninja @ Mar 22 2009, 11:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>the tipped sonic fall?
Yeah, at least he starts it. Thing is he alternates between bending and extending the fingers, which makes it look pretty different. -
Date: Sun, Mar 22 2009 20:22:06
It's alternating between inverse tipped sonic reverses and normal tipped sonic reverses...
Note: Tipped sonic reverses, like sonic reverses, go down the hand to my understanding -
Date: Tue, Mar 24 2009 19:31:13QUOTE (JC @ Mar 22 2009, 09:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Note: Tipped sonic reverses, like sonic reverses, go down the hand to my understanding
Do you call what in common language is called "BackAround" for BackAround Reverse, since that would be the way regular FingerArounds are notated? Reverse is in my opinion the opposite of how a trick is performed in its regular and most common form. The regular form of a Tipped Sonic is down the hand, thus Tipped Sonic Normal. But that's just how I see it. -
Date: Tue, Mar 24 2009 19:59:49QUOTE (Sfsr @ Mar 24 2009, 03:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Do you call what in common language is called "BackAround" for BackAround Reverse, since that would be the way regular FingerArounds are notated? Reverse is in my opinion the opposite of how a trick is performed in its regular and most common form. The regular form of a Tipped Sonic is down the hand, thus Tipped Sonic Normal. But that's just how I see it.
Hmm...yeah, I know.... and I don't completely agree with the going down hand = tipped sonic rev.... but i just remember a discussoin somewhere talking about tipped sonic naming conventions..... and they determined that gonig down hand = tipped sonic rev ...
-but i just mentioned that note because of what i remember from reading that discussion... -
Date: Fri, Mar 27 2009 07:21:48
new trick? I call it bak roller becauses it's like a rev bak and then like that coin roll trick down the bak of your hand. The Rev also looks cool xD
BTW I can't do it
sorry if it's laggy...
Youtube's been doing this to my vids recently :/ -
Date: Fri, Mar 27 2009 07:31:23
its more of a combo
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Date: Fri, Mar 27 2009 07:32:07 thats ipba rev dude
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Date: Fri, Mar 27 2009 07:32:39
Kinda like a combo of twisted sonic bust -> neobak fall =/
Edit: nevermind..I didn't know what an ipba looked like so yeah..go SJ lol -
Date: Fri, Mar 27 2009 07:46:17
Hmmmm... I don't really see it as a IPBA rev....
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Date: Sat, Mar 28 2009 16:39:11
What do you call a Sonic 34-12? instead of doing a Sonic 34-23 > Sonic 23-12, you just go directly from slot 34 to 12.
i don't have a video, but i can make one if it is needed... -
Date: Sat, Mar 28 2009 16:41:54
Sonic 34-12
Read through this completely, at the bottom: http://www.upsb.info/wiki/index.php/Sonic -
Date: Sat, Mar 28 2009 22:19:48
Sonic Longjump! :D
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Date: Sat, Mar 28 2009 23:17:22QUOTE (Joebob @ Mar 28 2009, 08:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>What do you call a Sonic 34-12? instead of doing a Sonic 34-23 > Sonic 23-12, you just go directly from slot 34 to 12.
i don't have a video, but i can make one if it is needed...
ya its called a Sonic normal 34-12 but i call it the trick no one uses -
Date: Sun, Mar 29 2009 08:19:12
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Date: Sun, Mar 29 2009 08:25:22
charge 23 > pass 23-12 > charge 12 > pass 12-23 > pass 23-34 > pass 34-23
repeat -
Date: Sun, Mar 29 2009 13:21:43
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_ZPG_qvppw
whats the trick at 2:30ish, the one after the tf charge? -
Date: Mon, Mar 30 2009 03:56:52
it's a pass
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Date: Tue, Mar 31 2009 10:32:00
is the trick at the beginning of my combo already taken?
Combo vs Pen ninja -
Date: Tue, Mar 31 2009 12:27:05QUOTE (neoknux_009メMT @ Mar 31 2009, 06:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i won btw >.>
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Date: Tue, Mar 31 2009 18:00:59QUOTE (neoknux_009メMT @ Mar 31 2009, 12:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't think it has a name. -
Date: Wed, Apr 1 2009 08:14:50QUOTE (TheOnion @ Mar 31 2009, 02:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I don't think it has a name.
is there like an official place to name a trick? i want to name it Blaze Around T1 = > T2 => T3 -
Date: Wed, Apr 1 2009 13:28:41
So I have a couple of tricks what I want to make sure that I do them right.
TA Ext.
Fake Double
Tornado
Hand Around
I know that I'm not very good at doing those but I want to knw have I understood them right. If you don't really know am I doing them right then don't answer. I don't want misunderstandings. -
Date: Fri, Apr 3 2009 00:29:04
fake double = tornado, both of those videos work for both names
that is not a handaround, it is a palmspin ~ FL PRMA rev 0.5 -
Date: Fri, Apr 3 2009 12:06:01QUOTE (Shadowserpant @ Apr 3 2009, 03:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>fake double = tornado, both of those videos work for both names
that is not a handaround, it is a palmspin ~ FL PRMA rev 0.5
Can you link me a vid of hand around? -
Date: Fri, Apr 3 2009 15:06:21QUOTE (Sibis @ Apr 3 2009, 05:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Can you link me a vid of hand around?
The HandAround is interpretted in many ways. The most appropriate method (IMO) is this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXSixyDn6vcQUOTE (Shadowserpant @ Apr 3 2009, 05:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>that is not a handaround, it is a palmspin ~ FL PRMA rev 0.5
That video does not have any Palm Spin and the "FL PRMA Rev" is not a reverse.
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Date: Fri, Apr 3 2009 15:25:31
no1 answered mine
pen is not pushed from 23 ever
arounds are pushed via gravity... kinda thrown on top and they drop over
just wanted to check that last 1 classes as bball spin? -
Date: Fri, Apr 3 2009 23:51:15QUOTE (Outsmash @ Apr 3 2009, 07:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The HandAround is interpretted in many ways. The most appropriate method (IMO) is this one
That video does not have any Palm Spin and the "FL PRMA Rev" is not a reverse.
Well that video is only half a handaround, the most complete handarounds i've seen come from Charlie
you're right there's no palm spin, i do mine with a palmspin 0.5, that's why i thought there was
but it is indeed a reverse, i dont know why you dont think so -
Date: Sat, Apr 4 2009 07:37:34QUOTE (Shadowserpant @ Apr 4 2009, 06:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Well that video is only half a handaround, the most complete handarounds i've seen come from Charlie
you're right there's no palm spin, i do mine with a palmspin 0.5, that's why i thought there was
but it is indeed a reverse, i dont know why you dont think so
It was a pinkybak done in a different way. It's from the palm, not 'to' the palm (which would be reverse).
And the handaround, what's the 'full version' of it? Ending with an IPBA Rev kinda thing? -
Date: Sat, Apr 4 2009 07:56:21
FL PRMA? Can someone tell longer name...?
And what does IPBA Rev mean?
I learned it here. I thought that was hand around... -
Date: Sat, Apr 4 2009 08:19:49
no, people just like to make up names, it goes around 3 fingers, i dont see how that's a handaround
fingerless pinkyringmiddlearound reverse
and that would be indexpinkybackaround reverse -
Date: Sat, Apr 4 2009 11:27:05
thank for ur help -.-
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Date: Sun, Apr 5 2009 06:52:41QUOTE (Sibis @ Apr 4 2009, 01:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>FL PRMA? Can someone tell longer name...?
And what does IPBA Rev mean?
I learned it here. I thought that was hand around...
Simply put,
I = Index = 1
M = Middle = 2
R = Ring = 3
P = Pinky = 4
BA = BackAround = Fl Around Rev
Rev = Reverse
The letter that is placed in the starting is the finger the around starts with and the letter next to it is the letter it ends in.
Example: IPBA Rev mean the The Backaround (BA) Reverse (Rev) starts of in the index finger and end by going around the pinky , i.e., it goes down the hand.
And @Shadowserpant: That wouldn't be "FL PRMA Rev". It's "PMBA Rev" (anyways, in that video it isn't a rev) because PM obviously means around the R as well since it comes in between
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Date: Sun, Apr 5 2009 11:02:29QUOTE (Outsmash @ Apr 5 2009, 09:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Simply put,
I = Index = 1
M = Middle = 2
R = Ring = 3
P = Pinky = 4
BA = BackAround = Fl Around Rev
Rev = Reverse
The letter that is placed in the starting is the finger the around starts with and the letter next to it is the letter it ends in.
Example: IPBA Rev mean the The Backaround (BA) Reverse (Rev) starts of in the index finger and end by going around the pinky , i.e., it goes down the hand.
And @Shadowserpant: That wouldn't be "FL PRMA Rev". It's "PMBA Rev" (anyways, in that video it isn't a rev) because PM obviously means around the R as well since it comes in between
I don't really get those what you are saying but it's not hand around but it's trick/hybrid so I can use it in my combo
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Date: Mon, Apr 6 2009 10:04:53QUOTE (Sibis @ Apr 5 2009, 04:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I don't really get those what you are saying but it's not hand around but it's trick/hybrid so I can use it in my combo
What dont you understand? I don't mind explaining it further.
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Date: Mon, Apr 6 2009 13:47:59QUOTE (Outsmash @ Apr 6 2009, 01:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>What dont you understand? I don't mind explaining it further.
What does "FL PRMA Rev" mean? Is that what I did a common trick? Because I've saw many of those. -
Date: Mon, Apr 6 2009 17:53:18
This isnt me but what is bonkura doing at :16-:17.
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Date: Mon, Apr 6 2009 20:35:58
@Cavern, the Neosonic 12-TF ~> FL ta rev
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Date: Mon, Apr 6 2009 21:12:28
Uh jc i meant after the ta rev where like i dunno he changes the direction of his hands.
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Date: Mon, Apr 6 2009 22:59:40QUOTE (Outsmash @ Apr 4 2009, 11:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The letter that is placed in the starting is the finger the around starts with and the letter next to it is the letter it ends in.
Example: IPBA Rev mean the The Backaround (BA) Reverse (Rev) starts of in the index finger and end by going around the pinky , i.e., it goes down the hand.
And @Shadowserpant: That wouldn't be "FL PRMA Rev". It's "PMBA Rev" (anyways, in that video it isn't a rev) because PM obviously means around the R as well since it comes in between
multiple finger arounds have not yet been formally addressed, and by no means is the multiple finger backaround notation official. even if it were, that doesnt mean normal arounds follow the same pattern
there is a problem with shortening these names by removing fingers, because you dont necessarily have to go around all of the fingers. you have to make room for sonic hybrids.
besides, last time i talked to sketching about it, he told me to name all of the fingers, so that's what i do
and dude, seriously, it's reverse, i dont know why you're denying that -
Date: Mon, Apr 6 2009 23:16:55QUOTE (Cavern @ Apr 6 2009, 05:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Uh jc i meant after the ta rev where like i dunno he changes the direction of his hands.
Hmm...well, I'm not sure how to notate that section, but here's a vid of it + slo-mo
this is what you mean right?
Just try following what I do in the slo-mo if you wanna do it yourself
-Bonkura adds a bit more wrist motion to it than i do though.. =\ -
Date: Mon, Apr 6 2009 23:38:22
Is there a name for anti-gravity palm-up?
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Date: Tue, Apr 7 2009 00:35:21
Thx Jc thats exactly what i meant. Now.. to copy u.
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Date: Tue, Apr 7 2009 02:39:22QUOTE (Pen Ninja @ Apr 3 2009, 11:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
just wanted to check that last 1 classes as bball spin?
no that's not a bball spin
1) it doesn't spin on top of the tips of the fingers
2) it spins in the wrong rotation. -
Date: Tue, Apr 7 2009 03:06:08QUOTE (homesliceme @ Apr 6 2009, 04:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Is there a name for anti-gravity palm-up?
Antigravity if FL IA Rev. 11-11, palm up and palm down. (although if its palm down, its not really "anti-gravity" anymore) -
Date: Tue, Apr 7 2009 04:12:16QUOTE (hoiboy @ Apr 6 2009, 07:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Antigravity if FL IA Rev. 11-11, palm up and palm down. (although if its palm down, its not really "anti-gravity" anymore)
Yeah, no such thing as an anti-gravity. They're just fingerless arounds. -
Date: Tue, Apr 7 2009 04:37:14
What this? Starts and ends in 12
WTF!!! -
Date: Tue, Apr 7 2009 07:01:42QUOTE (N1ck @ Apr 6 2009, 08:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>What this? Starts and ends in 12
WTF!!!
Looks interesting. Slow-mo it. Might be something new. -
Date: Tue, Apr 7 2009 07:23:27QUOTE (Charlie @ Apr 7 2009, 01:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Looks interesting. Slow-mo it. Might be something new.
ok, slow-mo version -
Date: Tue, Apr 7 2009 11:10:03
N1ck:
#1 Fingerless Indexaround reverse release 0.5 12-12 or just Fingerless Indexaround reverse 0.5
#2 Fingerless Middlearound release 1.0 12-12 -
Date: Tue, Apr 7 2009 11:53:29QUOTE (Zombo @ Apr 7 2009, 10:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>no that's not a bball spin
1) it doesn't spin on top of the tips of the fingers
2) it spins in the wrong rotation.
hmm, can u explain that?
what do u mean by tips? coz it spins like... on my finger nails (if i didnt bite them :3)
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Date: Tue, Apr 7 2009 18:37:38
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gRkI8BiV6A
Anyone know if there's a name for what I'm doing at 00:04~00:05 or 00:18~00:20?
I believe I'm doing some sort of Sonic from 34 to T1, except I don't catch it on T1 and let it fall back from the palm side to 34 again.
Obviously you can start, pass through, and end in any finger position. But I haven't seen this done before, so I'm not sure if there's a name for it or not.
PS: Don't mind the title of the video...I made this for a battle against Mike, but it's been a long time and seems we're both too busy to make the battle happen, so I just released the video. -
Date: Tue, Apr 7 2009 19:16:43
Umm, Kam, I don't see any link/vid O_o
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Date: Tue, Apr 7 2009 20:08:07QUOTE (N1ck @ Apr 6 2009, 08:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>What this? Starts and ends in 12
WTF!!!
whys the vid dead... -
Date: Tue, Apr 7 2009 20:23:44QUOTE (Resonance @ Apr 7 2009, 12:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Umm, Kam, I don't see any link/vid O_o
That's because I'm an idiot and forgot to add the link? xD
fixed -
Date: Wed, Apr 8 2009 13:35:50
What am I doing?
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Date: Wed, Apr 8 2009 14:22:10
xLAMx neo bak 12-34 > sonic rise
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Date: Wed, Apr 8 2009 14:36:54QUOTE (N1ck @ Apr 8 2009, 10:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>xLAMx neo bak 12-34 > sonic rise
So that's a neobak... -
Date: Wed, Apr 8 2009 15:25:25
doing some moowalk sonic 12-23, i managed to do this
WTF -
Date: Wed, Apr 8 2009 15:35:03QUOTE (Charlie @ Apr 7 2009, 12:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Yeah, no such thing as an anti-gravity. They're just fingerless arounds.
It's on the Wiki :/ -
Date: Wed, Apr 8 2009 15:41:45QUOTE (N1ck @ Apr 8 2009, 05:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>doing some moowalk sonic 12-23, i managed to do this
WTF
Same as the second trick in THIS video. Sonic Moonwalk 12-23 ~ Indexaround reverse release 0.5 13-12. Funny that you came up with this cause it was invented by a russian
@homesliceme: Charlie meant that anti-gravity is an old name that's not used anymore cause it's just a variation of fingerless fingerarounds. -
Date: Wed, Apr 8 2009 15:53:41QUOTE (Pudels Kern @ Apr 8 2009, 09:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>. Funny that you came up with this cause it was invented by a russian
Thanks,man
oh,a transparent!
I have not guessed at once
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Date: Wed, Apr 8 2009 21:29:37
Oh alright, thanks Pudels Kern.
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Date: Fri, Apr 10 2009 14:22:08
starts like inv shadow 12-xx,ends like neo bak xx-34, help plz me with brakedown and name(if it exist) of this hybrid.
video:WTF -
Date: Fri, Apr 10 2009 17:30:40QUOTE (N1ck @ Apr 10 2009, 04:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>starts like inv shadow 12-xx,ends like neo bak xx-34, help plz me with brakedown and name(if it exist) of this hybrid.
video:WTF
YouTube cut off the very end, but I'd just break it down as... Haha oh wait it doesn't go in between 1 and 2. Oh well,
Inv Shadow 12-T1 ~Â NeoBak (T)1-34 -
Date: Fri, Apr 10 2009 17:48:41
Okay, took some closer looks on it, Kam.
I guess it's not a shadow ~ inv shadow. Maybe... Sonic 34-12 ~ Inv shadow or Sonic 34-12 ~ FL Inv Sonic Rev. I'm thinking sonic 34-12 ~ inv shadow. -
Date: Fri, Apr 10 2009 18:16:06QUOTE (Charlie @ Apr 10 2009, 10:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Okay, took some closer looks on it, Kam.
I guess it's not a shadow ~ inv shadow. Maybe... Sonic 34-12 ~ Inv shadow or Sonic 34-12 ~ FL Inv Sonic Rev. I'm thinking sonic 34-12 ~ inv shadow.
Hmm...I guess I need to make a slow motion video :/ The pen doesn't go through 12 except in the finisher. It must be the hand movement giving that illusion.
The motion is like this....a Sonic 34-T1 (never actually touches T, but it goes to that space), don't catch it, and let it drop from the palm side to 34 again. I then repeat this 3 times before doing a Sonic 34-T1 that drops to 23.
There isn't even a half rotation after the first Sonic, so I doubt that can be considered an Inv Shadow or Inv Sonic Rev :/ -
Date: Fri, Apr 10 2009 18:55:52QUOTE (Kam @ Apr 10 2009, 11:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hmm...I guess I need to make a slow motion video :/ The pen doesn't go through 12 except in the finisher. It must be the hand movement giving that illusion.
The motion is like this....a Sonic 34-T1 (never actually touches T, but it goes to that space), don't catch it, and let it drop from the palm side to 34 again. I then repeat this 3 times before doing a Sonic 34-T1 that drops to 23.
There isn't even a half rotation after the first Sonic, so I doubt that can be considered an Inv Shadow or Inv Sonic Rev :/
Slow-mo always helps. Well, the inv shadow interrupts the initial sonic. It's a hybrid and neither trick is done completely. It's a variation of eri's trick. Eri does a shadow ~ inv shadow, this one looks more like a sonic ~ inv shadow. When eri does it, the inv shadow also barely makes a half-rotation and falls into 34. But if you wanted to, you could have it spin more revolutions by having your hand more palm-up thus allowing the pen to spin more easily on your fingers.
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Date: Sat, Apr 11 2009 15:01:04
Thanks,Sfsr.
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Some new mistery : may be kind a TopSpin? PS: it is not T1 position,well, it looks like pen pressed by 234 to plam , then doing hand movement.
WTF
more detailed video(I showed start position and managed to catch in 23)a bit slowed version WTf2
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Date: Thu, Apr 16 2009 15:04:43QUOTE (N1ck @ Apr 11 2009, 09:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Thanks,Sfsr.
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Some new mistery : may be kind a TopSpin? PS: it is not T1 position,well, it looks like pen pressed by 234 to plam , then doing hand movement.
WTF
more detailed video(I showed start position and managed to catch in 23)a bit slowed version WTf2
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does anybody knows?
Nobody knows? -
Date: Thu, Apr 16 2009 16:34:52
Maybe, I got a new trick.
Its a hybrid i think and it involves twisting your hand after performing the ta reverse fingerless. In the video there is a charge rev,
but I think you can do it without. the pen spins on the back of your hand and you catch it in 34, have no idea what its called and maybe its not even new, but ive never seen it before.
Is it somethin new?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2oSqOJ4PCU...re=channel_page -
Date: Thu, Apr 16 2009 18:22:46QUOTE (defect @ Apr 16 2009, 08:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Maybe, I got a new trick.
Its a hybrid i think and it involves twisting your hand after performing the ta reverse fingerless. In the video there is a charge rev,
but I think you can do it without. the pen spins on the back of your hand and you catch it in 34, have no idea what its called and maybe its not even new, but ive never seen it before.
Is it somethin new?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2oSqOJ4PCU...re=channel_page
It's not new. It's a hybrid. TA Rev ~ Shadow Rev I believe. There are probably different ways of notating it. -
Date: Fri, Apr 17 2009 16:00:18QUOTE (N1ck @ Apr 11 2009, 09:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Thanks,Sfsr.
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Some new mistery : may be kind a TopSpin? PS: it is not T1 position,well, it looks like pen pressed by 234 to plam , then doing hand movement.
WTF
more detailed video(I showed start position and managed to catch in 23)a bit slowed version WTf2
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does anybody knows?
Maybe this is smth new, or not identified? -
Date: Fri, Apr 17 2009 16:47:45
@N1ck: im pretty sure it's a Shadow T1 to 23.
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Date: Fri, Apr 17 2009 18:39:25QUOTE (Charlie @ Apr 16 2009, 03:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>It's not new.
Are you sure? Well, at least its a good variation for the TA Fl rev. I have never seen it before and I think i will use it in my combos
because it looks nice, VERY nice i have to say. -
Date: Fri, Apr 17 2009 18:50:13
It's not new for sure. And it was used a lot of times, really
First video that came to my mind:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Od6fnlC7l4
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Date: Sat, Apr 18 2009 00:16:17
???
That's Thumbflap charge reverse -> Shadow reverse T1-34
and of course it is not new, many psers used it often -
Date: Sat, Apr 18 2009 00:41:36QUOTE (GSkyrunner @ Apr 17 2009, 05:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>???
That's Thumbflap charge reverse -> Shadow reverse T1-34
and of course it is not new, many psers used it often
Indeed (it's one of my favorite tricks) and I just told the other person a few posts above Raem what it is. -
Date: Sat, Apr 18 2009 17:24:57
OK, so how about this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwxQVk259Ek...re=channel_page
Its a hybrid trick and involves the Halftap, or the fulltap (not quite sure). The starting position is the tap(half/full) position and after pushing the pen you instantly turn your wrist so that the pen ends up in the TA extended position. a hybrid trick and i think its not new, but i just wanna know if there is an official name or not. -
Date: Sat, Apr 18 2009 18:18:04QUOTE (defect @ Apr 18 2009, 09:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>OK, so how about this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwxQVk259Ek...re=channel_page
Its a hybrid trick and involves the Halftap, or the fulltap (not quite sure). The starting position is the tap(half/full) position and after pushing the pen you instantly turn your wrist so that the pen ends up in the TA extended position. a hybrid trick and i think its not new, but i just wanna know if there is an official name or not.
No official name for most hybrids.
Halftap ~ Bak Rev 0.5 -
Date: Sun, Apr 19 2009 03:57:43
I'm not sure what this combination is, I repeated it twice (first time is incomplete)
Solved: Wiper/Wiper Reverse Combos
http://s16.photobucket.com/albums/b45/KtkM...t=VIDEO0037.flv -
Date: Sun, Apr 19 2009 13:44:31
Sorry
Dont Have a Video But its Easy To Explain.
I start by placing the pen in my hand in the thumb around position, Start the thumb around, but when the Center Of Pen gets to the back of my thumb, i put my thumb down and the pen does a half rotation on my thumb joint, then finish up by putting my thumb back up and finishing the thumb around.
Name My Trick? -
Date: Sun, Apr 19 2009 16:57:46QUOTE (OfficeWorks @ Apr 19 2009, 08:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Sorry Dont Have a Video But its Easy To Explain.
I start by placing the pen in my hand in the thumb around position, Start the thumb around, but when the Center Of Pen gets to the back of my thumb, i put my thumb down and the pen does a half rotation on my thumb joint, then finish up by putting my thumb back up and finishing the thumb around.
Name My Trick?
Thumbspin.QUOTE (Ktk @ Apr 19 2009, 10:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I'm not sure what this combination is, I repeated it twice (first time is incomplete)
My theory is it's a triple infinity, but I'm iffy about the thumb part.
http://s16.photobucket.com/albums/b45/KtkM...t=VIDEO0037.flv
Its a combo with Wipers and Wiper reverses, so no name for it =/ -
Date: Wed, Apr 22 2009 15:50:31
The main idea is to Blow on table while doing TA(norm/rev)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbzefFZ0MJc...re=channel_page -
Date: Wed, Apr 22 2009 19:21:39
No new trick, no levitator.
Levitator = tap T1 pop
What you made was juste ta release and ta release reverse. -
Date: Thu, Apr 23 2009 12:33:06QUOTE (xLAMx @ Apr 8 2009, 09:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>What am I doing?
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Hey, someone in youtube said its a extended neobak... or is it? -
Date: Thu, Apr 23 2009 14:15:20QUOTE (xLAMx @ Apr 23 2009, 06:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hey, someone in youtube said its a extended neobak... or is it?What the Extended Neo Bak?
its a neobak 12-34 -
Date: Sat, Apr 25 2009 02:57:42
It's neoback 12-34 > Sonic 34-23 > Sonic 23-12
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Date: Sun, May 3 2009 14:57:10
Can someone tell me the names of everything that I'm doing in here:
I kinda know them all already, but I just want to double check that my nomenclature is correct. Especially on that fl prma rev one, any confirmation on that name? Or should I present it as Swivel to Time Warp? Check the other stuff too please. Thanks ^^ -
Date: Sun, May 3 2009 15:30:22QUOTE (JC @ May 3 2009, 10:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Can someone tell me the names of everything that I'm doing in here:
I kinda know them all already, but I just want to double check that my nomenclature is correct. Especially on that fl prma rev one, any confirmation on that name? Or should I present it as Swivel to Time Warp? Check the other stuff too please. Thanks ^^
last trick was bad-ass
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Date: Sun, May 3 2009 15:36:47QUOTE (Jtrophy @ May 3 2009, 11:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>last trick was bad-ass
btw, was that a hell spin? or devil's conversion o.O?
as far as my knowledge goes, i'm doing a devil's conversion... but I need confirmation once again... -
Date: Sun, May 3 2009 22:18:12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpwlSB_WS98
Not a very useful trick... just thought I'd ask if it's been named. -
Date: Mon, May 4 2009 08:28:14QUOTE (JC @ May 3 2009, 08:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Can someone tell me the names of everything that I'm doing in here:
In order:- ThumbAround
- Sonic 23-12
- Charge 23
- Double ThumbAround (ThumbAround > FL ThumbAround) T1-TF
- Tipped Sonic Fall > Tipped Sonic Reverse Rise (Tipped Sonic Fall Rise Harmonic) T1-T1
- Shadow 12-12
- Devil's Conversion 23-TF
- BakFall (Index Bak > FL Pass > Middle Bak > FL Pass > Ring Bak > FL Pass > Pinky Bak) - Korean Backaround. 12-34
- ThumbAround T1-P1234 > PMBA (Pinky Middle Backaround) P1234-12
- Weissan BackRiser [p 12] ~ FingerLess ThumbIndex Spin Reverse [c TF]
QUOTE (homesliceme @ May 4 2009, 03:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wiper Reverse T2-T2 > Wiper T2 [p 1] -
Date: Thu, May 7 2009 17:11:24
What do I do here?
http://gratis-handy-aufladen.com/?id=5gr2sl4op0 -
Date: Sat, May 9 2009 20:00:52
What?
Sorry, 2 must be like 4 but not in air -
Date: Sun, May 10 2009 02:58:14QUOTE (Cichy @ May 10 2009, 02:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What?
Sorry, 2 must be like 4 but not in air
As far as i know:
1)FL PalmSpin reverse 0.5
2)FL PalmSpin 0.5
3)FL PalmSpin Reverse riser
4)FL PalmSpin Riser -
Date: Sun, May 10 2009 09:24:19QUOTE (N1ck @ May 10 2009, 04:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>As far as i know:
1)FL PalmSpin reverse 0.5
2)FL PalmSpin 0.5
3)FL PalmSpin Reverse riser
4)FL PalmSpin Riser
Thanks, I didn't think about FL PalmSpin
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Date: Wed, May 13 2009 11:30:25
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Date: Wed, May 13 2009 15:49:10QUOTE (Alucard @ May 13 2009, 05:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
it might be Shadow 34-34 to palmSpin,but i am more confident in Shadow norm to inverse shadow -
Date: Wed, May 13 2009 15:56:38
err, one correction, it more looks like devil's shadow 34 to palmspin
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Date: Wed, May 13 2009 23:27:07QUOTE (Raem @ May 13 2009, 07:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>err, one correction, it more looks like devil's shadow 34 to palmspin
It's a devil's shadow ~ inv shadow rev. Just a hybrid. Nothing special, I do it all the time. -
Date: Thu, May 14 2009 14:41:23
nothing special i got here, but how would you notate it?
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Date: Thu, May 14 2009 17:15:08QUOTE (Charlie @ May 14 2009, 01:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>It's a devil's shadow ~ inv shadow rev. Just a hybrid. Nothing special, I do it all the time.
eah its nothing special but i thought maybe there is a name for it. Every little thing in PS has a name nowdays ..
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Date: Thu, May 14 2009 17:25:42QUOTE (Alucard @ May 14 2009, 10:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>eah its nothing special but i thought maybe there is a name for it. Every little thing in PS has a name nowdays ..
Only if it gets popular enough, people have to call it something because they suck at hybrid notation.
Or if you're french and you have to name every trick. :] -
Date: Fri, May 15 2009 11:40:18
i do 2 here
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Date: Fri, May 15 2009 21:56:00
Could please somebody now reply to my question and tell me the name of my trick?
Watch Video in my post above. -
Date: Fri, May 15 2009 23:16:06QUOTE (defect @ May 15 2009, 11:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Could please somebody now reply to my question and tell me the name of my trick?
Watch Video in my post above.
Not exactly the same trick you do each time. But you would probably call it Ringthumbaround Normal 34-(whereever you catch it). -
Date: Fri, May 15 2009 23:47:14QUOTE (TheOnion @ May 15 2009, 04:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Not exactly the same trick you do each time. But you would probably call it Ringthumbaround Normal 34-(whereever you catch it).
Hm maybe. i see it more as a RA ~ TA. -
Date: Sat, May 16 2009 15:15:21
Ok, thanks
. I think its a pretty cool hybrid, not quite sure about the notation. Some kind of RA - TA or whereever you catch the pen. I just wondered if there is a name for it. -
Date: Mon, May 18 2009 04:52:47
???? similar to ipba rev but one lands on 23 and the other on 12. whats the trick name pls.
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Date: Mon, May 18 2009 07:03:19QUOTE (Yanos @ May 18 2009, 10:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>???? similar to ipba rev but one lands on 23 and the other on 12. whats the trick name pls.
First one:
Twisted Sonic 23-12 > IPBA Rev 12-23
Second one:
Twisted Sonic 23-12 > IPBA Rev 12-12
Just change the ending slots =]
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Date: Mon, May 18 2009 11:07:09
need the around broken down -
Date: Sat, May 23 2009 22:05:31
hey i just wanna know if this trick has got a name or not
sorry dont have a vid BD
Sonic 23-12 > Pass 12-23 -
Date: Sun, May 24 2009 20:32:27QUOTE (Edor @ May 23 2009, 03:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>hey i just wanna know if this trick has got a name or not
sorry dont have a vid BD
Sonic 23-12 > Pass 12-23
no. Most minicombos dont have a name -
Date: Mon, May 25 2009 17:54:53
Shadow hybrid something. i have seen variations on it, not quite sure what it is though.
Any ideas? -
Date: Mon, May 25 2009 18:40:17QUOTE (defect @ May 26 2009, 01:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Shadow hybrid something. i have seen variations on it, not quite sure what it is though.
Any ideas?
It looks like Le0n's Devil's Conversion. =\ -
Date: Mon, May 25 2009 22:10:20
My friend showed me this trick. -
Date: Wed, May 27 2009 01:33:53
what is the name of this trick???could someone please tell me,thanks!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIEXcvGF7VA -
Date: Wed, May 27 2009 01:36:04
uhh this goes somewhere else, i think
but its ta > fl middle around -
Date: Wed, May 27 2009 09:14:44
Looks like Twisted Sonic > Scissor Spin. or was it Twisted Sonic ~ Scissor Spin ?
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Date: Wed, May 27 2009 09:54:46
Is it really a devils conversion? My version looks a bit different, its kind of a variotion on devils conversion. So does anyone know how to notate it or how would you notate it?
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Date: Mon, Jun 1 2009 22:22:44
Can someone tell me what he does from the 5th second to the 7th second?
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Date: Tue, Jun 2 2009 02:50:09QUOTE (Trackstud @ Jun 1 2009, 03:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Can someone tell me what he does from the 5th second to the 7th second?
IA ~ spiderspin on index ~ MA to 12 and repeat -
Date: Wed, Jun 3 2009 13:24:29
Ou,ive got something like this: Starts like TA rev and goes like neobak 12-34, how to notate it?
CLICK ME! -
Date: Wed, Jun 3 2009 13:27:00
It doesn't look like you used a push, so I'm pretty sure it's just a Neobak T1-34
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Date: Wed, Jun 3 2009 13:45:00QUOTE (JC @ Jun 3 2009, 07:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>It doesn't look like you used a push, so I'm pretty sure it's just a Neobak T1-34
im using push, and then turning hand. You can see it in slowmo. -
Date: Wed, Jun 3 2009 13:55:06
Fake reverse T1-34 ?
I know what you're talking about, but I'm not sure how its called -.- -
Date: Wed, Jun 3 2009 15:49:45
Since everybody ignored my question, I post it here once again:
What is the trick in my video, the shadow, devils-conversion-whatever thing.
So, could anybody kindly respond to my question now? Thank you very much. -
Date: Wed, Jun 3 2009 23:01:30
what is the cont mini combo hes doing at 0:05 - 0:08? -
Date: Wed, Jun 3 2009 23:05:45QUOTE (Shadowserpant @ Jun 1 2009, 07:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>IA ~ spiderspin on index ~ MA to 12 and repeat
It was 6 posts back >.< -
Date: Wed, Jun 3 2009 23:28:40QUOTE (hoiboy @ Jun 3 2009, 04:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>It was 6 posts back >.<
wow i seriously did not see that... nor did i realize that someone else had the EXACT same question as me...
wow... i phail... -
Date: Tue, Jun 9 2009 17:30:29
This stall have name or not?
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Date: Tue, Jun 9 2009 18:00:49
i saw people doing these stalls at school, but just for fun. I dont know the name, but i think its too jerky to keep the pen up to actually use in a combo :|
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Date: Tue, Jun 9 2009 18:33:00
@N1ck, the pen being completely vertical reminds me of what happens temporarily in the Swing/Arc trick, but that occurs on the back of the hand, so yours may be some sort of palm inverse swing?
Here's the Swing/Arc thread: http://www.upsb.info/forum/index.php?showt...=20823&st=0 -
Date: Wed, Jun 10 2009 15:53:40
Since everybody ignored my question, I post it here once again:
What is the trick in my video, the shadow, devils-conversion-whatever thing.
So, could anybody kindly respond to my question now? Thank you in advance!
VIDEO IS a FEW POSTS ABOVE!!! -
Date: Thu, Jun 11 2009 03:49:18
what am I doing?
8____________8
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Date: Thu, Jun 11 2009 10:59:08
@Taikutsu, it seems Devil's Sonic 23-12 ~ Spider Spin
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Date: Thu, Jun 11 2009 18:21:39
Since everybody ignored my question, I post it here once again:
What is the trick in my video, the shadow, devils-conversion-whatever thing.
So, could anybody kindly respond to my question now? Thank you in advance!
VIDEO IS a FEW POSTS ABOVE!!!
(Yes, the last trick is a spider spin, I´m quite sure about it)
There is still no reply to my question.
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Date: Thu, Jun 11 2009 18:26:39
http://rutube.ru/tracks/2010278.html?v=572...d072318fd0950cb
shadow with 1 revolution? О_О or just a charge? -
Date: Thu, Jun 11 2009 18:58:52QUOTE (N1ck @ Jun 12 2009, 01:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>http://rutube.ru/tracks/2010278.html?v=572...d072318fd0950cb
shadow with 1 revolution? О_О or just a charge?
Hmm, interesting ...
However, that won't be called as Shadow since it has only 1 revolution. More likely some kind of hybrid ? I'm not sure =/ -
Date: Sat, Jun 13 2009 23:55:35
Trying to do an inverse sonic clip. and this is what happened.
Is there a name to this trick?
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Date: Sun, Jun 14 2009 00:13:48
Hybrid. No name.
@Other Guy
Shadow 1.0. interesting though. No new name btw. -
Date: Sun, Jun 14 2009 00:15:08
@xSpin, I think that's a Out In Sonic 23-12... or was it In Out Sonic...
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Date: Sun, Jun 14 2009 00:20:58
ahh okay, thanx JC.
i was fustrating when i couldnt do the inverse sonic clip my middle finger was moving down for some reason...o.o
and suddenly i was spamming that tric a lot. feels quite smooth... -
Date: Sun, Jun 14 2009 12:51:58QUOTE (N1ck @ Jun 12 2009, 12:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>http://rutube.ru/tracks/2010278.html?v=572...d072318fd0950cb
shadow with 1 revolution? О_О or just a charge?
Still i have no clear answer on this question.Please,tell me the truth about this hybrid/trick
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Date: Sun, Jun 14 2009 19:25:18
@xSpin
As I commented on your video, Inverse Sidesonic 23-12 if I remember correctly
@N1ck
I'd say Sonic 12-12, since it's like Shadow but has only 1.0 rotation -
Date: Fri, Jun 19 2009 20:55:27QUOTE (GSkyrunner @ Jun 14 2009, 12:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>@xSpin
As I commented on your video, Inverse Sidesonic 23-12 if I remember correctly
@N1ck
I'd say Sonic 12-12, since it's like Shadow but has only 1.0 rotation
Definitely not a sonic 12-12. It's just a shadow 1.0 and not a shadow 1.5.
To be frank, kinda pointless trick imo. -
Date: Sat, Jun 20 2009 18:41:30
Can somebody tell me what the name of this trick is?
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Date: Sat, Jun 20 2009 19:06:17QUOTE (Charlie @ Jun 20 2009, 03:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>It's just a shadow 1.0.
Well, we called Shadow 1.0 as Sonic, isn't it ? -
Date: Sun, Jun 21 2009 00:07:47QUOTE (GSkyrunner @ Jun 20 2009, 12:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Well, we called Shadow 1.0 as Sonic, isn't it ?
No. A sonic is a charge hybrid. For example, a sonic 23-12 can be broken down as, charge 23 ~ charge 13 ~ charge 12.
A shadow on the other hand, spins on top of the fingers. Whether it does 1 spin or 5 spins, it's still a shadow.
Btw, terms such as sonic 1.5 for shadow is archaic and no longer used. -
Date: Sun, Jun 21 2009 12:01:13QUOTE (Charlie @ Jun 21 2009, 07:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>No. A sonic is a charge hybrid. For example, a sonic 23-12 can be broken down as, charge 23 ~ charge 13 ~ charge 12.
A shadow on the other hand, spins on top of the fingers. Whether it does 1 spin or 5 spins, it's still a shadow.
Btw, terms such as sonic 1.5 for shadow is archaic and no longer used.
Then how about Sonic 12-TF ?
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Date: Sun, Jun 21 2009 12:54:14QUOTE (GSkyrunner @ Jun 21 2009, 08:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Then how about Sonic 12-TF ?
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its actually shadow 1.0~> spiderspin
and then he caught it like a shadow is caught -
Date: Sat, Oct 17 2009 12:10:32
Is it? -
Date: Sat, Oct 17 2009 13:49:01QUOTE (phua sy @ Oct 17 2009, 06:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is it?
correct haitua. the second idonno,it doesnt looks like classical japanese spread, but looks like peem's staff)
<<<<ps: shittube have eaten ending( -
Date: Sat, Oct 17 2009 14:52:53
@N1ck:
Bakriser ~> Backhand Bounce > Backhand Bounce B-23 -
Date: Sun, Oct 18 2009 05:09:35QUOTE (N1ck @ Oct 17 2009, 09:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>correct haitua. the second idonno,it doesnt looks like classical japanese spread, but looks like peem's staff)
Yea,Spinnerpeem's finishers. -
Date: Mon, Oct 19 2009 01:33:50
What's this? -
Date: Mon, Oct 19 2009 02:25:13
Fingerless Halftap?
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Date: Mon, Oct 19 2009 02:51:30
Reverse fingerless halftap?
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Date: Mon, Oct 19 2009 03:19:39QUOTE (Xell @ Oct 18 2009, 10:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Reverse fingerless halftap?
reverse fingerless halftap?
nah its definitely a fingerless halftap
it rotates clockwise for 0.5 revolution
reverse of a halftap would rotate counterclockwise -
Date: Sat, Oct 24 2009 03:28:38
I've been doing this for a really long time now, and I can't figure out what exactly it's called.
Is it possibly a new trick? The two tricks that I think this is are the reverse twisted sonic and the warped sonic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvmCD4u7sbA -
Date: Sat, Oct 24 2009 03:44:02
pass 12-23 > charge rev. 23 i think
use the "What am I doing" thread next time: http://www.upsb.info/forum/index.php?showtopic=1262 -
Date: Sat, Oct 24 2009 08:38:08
it looks like a halfway fingerpass reverse and a charge
EDIT: I think the charge is also halfway -
Date: Sat, Oct 24 2009 18:13:18QUOTE (Gahlokneo @ Oct 23 2009, 11:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I've been doing this for a really long time now, and I can't figure out what exactly it's called.
Is it possibly a new trick? The two tricks that I think this is are the reverse twisted sonic and the warped sonic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvmCD4u7sbA
Wow i did that trick except with clipped sonic and is it that you tilt your hand to change the charge reverse to a charge? because i did that too -
Date: Sat, Oct 24 2009 23:48:14
warped sonic?
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Date: Sat, Oct 24 2009 23:54:00
Looks like rev twistedsonic then rev charge, (kinda like incomplete rev double charge) = ] nothing NEW but intresting linkage?
This is intresting, bringing up the other thread which talked aobut if rev charged followed by a normal charge and vice a versa could look apealing, and they mentioned the switching of the hand facing. Kinda like what you're doing. -
Date: Sun, Oct 25 2009 08:11:01
Well here's how I end up using this link in combos. I can link it with essentially any sonic form like the twisted sonic, demon's sonic, angel's sonic, sonic, etc.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhOQXB-b3NQ
@ tofukebab: I think it looks like half a charge rev. to half a charge normal in that video because of the way I tilt my hand.
@ shoeman: This is one of my more appealing linkages I agree. This is how I use it in my usual combos. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0HmdiPZ4sY -
Date: Sun, Nov 1 2009 18:58:48
Is there a specific name for a bak starting from 23 and going to writing position?
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Date: Tue, Nov 10 2009 02:19:52
Am I doing it right?
Hai Tua -
Date: Fri, Nov 27 2009 05:38:45QUOTE (Zkhan43110 @ Nov 9 2009, 09:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Am I doing it right?
Hai Tua
Spoiler:
I think it supposed to go out of your hand like off the pinky and then the fingerless ta, im not sure though but thats how I saw a couple. -
Date: Fri, Nov 27 2009 05:38:57QUOTE (Zkhan43110 @ Nov 9 2009, 09:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Am I doing it right?
Hai Tua
Spoiler:
I think it supposed to go out of your hand like off the pinky and then the fingerless ta, im not sure though but thats how I saw a couple.QUOTE (Gahlokneo @ Oct 23 2009, 10:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I've been doing this for a really long time now, and I
can't figure out what exactly it's called.
Is it possibly a new trick? The two tricks that I think
this is are the reverse twisted sonic and the warped
sonic.
http:
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvmCD4u7sbA
I say it is a Pass and with the power of the hand twisting
converts it to a (charge reverse 23) but (1/4 of regular charge) appears because u switch ur hand back to normal at
the end. I am pretty sure.QUOTE (Wind @ Oct 24 2009, 06:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>warped sonic?
Warped sonic is a Charge 12 and then a pass 12-23, or
Charge 23 and then a pass 23-34 -
Date: Sat, Nov 28 2009 14:40:06
I think I already got the name right for this one, i just want to make sure there is no other name to it:
So is this a Neobak release or something like that: -
Date: Sun, Dec 13 2009 02:47:47
Well I didnt grab the pen like i was doing a pinky bak I kind of just idk
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Date: Sun, Dec 13 2009 02:49:47
@defect: bakriser
@elden: looks like a fl ta rev > handaround rev p4-tf (something like that) -
Date: Mon, Dec 14 2009 20:58:27QUOTE (hoiboy @ Dec 12 2009, 09:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>@elden: looks like a fl ta rev > handaround rev p4-tf (something like that)
i think thats actually ipba since it doesnt go around the thumb which would make it a handaround
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Date: Mon, Dec 14 2009 21:08:26QUOTE (KTrinh93 @ Dec 14 2009, 12:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i think thats actually ipba since it doesnt go around the thumb which would make it a handaround
why is it a bak if i didnt grab it like a bak? -
Date: Thu, Dec 17 2009 03:30:18QUOTE (Trackstud @ Dec 14 2009, 01:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>why is it a bak if i didnt grab it like a bak?
Fl TA Rev ~ Indexpinkybackaround Normal -
Date: Mon, Jan 4 2010 09:41:25
my trick
have somebody discover it before me? -
Date: Fri, Jan 15 2010 21:48:04
Figured it out.
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Date: Wed, Jan 20 2010 06:37:55
ok it';s hella late at night and i decided to learn haitua, after about 30 mins i decided that i would stop trying to start with a ext ta instead i used a shadow 23. is this still considered a haitua or a variation if not is it a new move ? if this is haitua, i guess u were right hoiboy i can learn it in a day. even less actually xD
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Date: Wed, Jan 20 2010 06:42:16
by definition, the haitua is a mini combo consisting of ta ~ back of hand transfer ~ fl ta, so no you can't do anything different
hai tua is not a trick, and arguably not a hybrid. -
Date: Wed, Jan 20 2010 06:46:06
isn't a combo of interrupted tricks just a long hybrid?
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Date: Wed, Jan 20 2010 06:51:55
aite thx zombo, ima start using that lil mini combo i did now then. it looks almost as impressive as haitua.
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Date: Thu, Jan 21 2010 19:46:33QUOTE (Shadowserpant @ Jan 20 2010, 01:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>isn't a combo of interrupted tricks just a long hybrid?
very blurry definition between these two terms -
Date: Fri, Jan 22 2010 00:11:54
So today I was sitting there waiting for my comp to turn on and I just did a sonic to warm up. But my hands were cold and I didn't catch it in time so I ended up doing a trick I never heard of before.
Basically, going into a sonic (say from 23-12) when your 1 and 3 fingers meet, you don't bring them back in order to catch. Instead, you hold them there for a little longer and let the pen pop out. As a result, it will spin about .5-1 revolution on your index finger, at which point you catch.
Basically it's a sonic > shadow.
Any name for this?
I was discussing this on sb and nobody really had an answer. I was doing it on mebeam but I'm too lazy to make a video so.. -
Date: Fri, Jan 22 2010 00:17:09QUOTE (L2PlayNoob @ Jan 21 2010, 07:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>So today I was sitting there waiting for my comp to turn on and I just did a sonic to warm up. But my hands were cold and I didn't catch it in time so I ended up doing a trick I never heard of before.
Basically, going into a sonic (say from 23-12) when your 1 and 3 fingers meet, you don't bring them back in order to catch. Instead, you hold them there for a little longer and let the pen pop out. As a result, it will spin about .5-1 revolution on your index finger, at which point you catch.
Basically it's a sonic > shadow.
Any name for this?
I was discussing this on sb and nobody really had an answer. I was doing it on mebeam but I'm too lazy to make a video so..
we did this on mebeam i did it in slow mo and you gave me the thumbs up so i guess were doing the same thing..
needs a name. it's not quite a sonic and not quite a shadow. the beginning is a sonic, yes, but it turns into a shadow but skips the beginning of the shadow then ends like a shadow would, so it's not even a sonic -> shadow.. it's an entirely new hybrid
we need someone to think of a name for this
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Date: Fri, Jan 22 2010 00:22:37
hybrids generally aren't named
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Date: Fri, Jan 22 2010 00:25:45QUOTE (hoiboy @ Jan 21 2010, 07:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>hybrids generally aren't named
ok then try to make up a workable annotation for this trick. -
Date: Fri, Jan 22 2010 00:28:19
sonic 23-12 ~ shadow 13-12
basically do a sonic til you hit 13, then turn it into a shadow -
Date: Fri, Jan 22 2010 00:46:42QUOTE (pReTTysMooTh @ Jan 21 2010, 04:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>ok then try to make up a workable annotation for this trick.
annotation? you mean notation?
and it would be very easy to put this into formal notation if you know anything about interrupted trick notation...
as hoiboy said, its a sonic 23-13~ shadow 13-12 (depending on where you catch it) -
Date: Fri, Jan 22 2010 00:47:43QUOTE (blahblahting @ Jan 21 2010, 07:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>annotation? you mean notation?
and it would be very easy to put this into formal notation if you know anything about interrupted trick notation...
as hoiboy said, its a sonic 23-13~ shadow 13-12 (depending on where you catch it)
well i dont know everything about notations, i've only used them online sometimes
so ~ means interrupted? -
Date: Sat, Jan 23 2010 06:12:07
Sonic to shadow hybrid? -
Date: Sat, Jan 23 2010 06:25:03QUOTE (iColor @ Jan 23 2010, 01:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Sonic to shadow hybrid?
that looks right but its not very smooth there -
Date: Sat, Jan 23 2010 17:58:33
Yeah it's right
Hey just wondering icolor, do you record in 16:9? because it looks a little stretched vertically. If you use windows movie maker, on default it changes your video to 4:3 unless you tell it not to. -
Date: Sat, Jan 23 2010 19:10:45QUOTE (L2PlayNoob @ Jan 23 2010, 12:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Yeah it's right
Hey just wondering icolor, do you record in 16:9? because it looks a little stretched vertically. If you use windows movie maker, on default it changes your video to 4:3 unless you tell it not to.
Yeah, I record in 16:9. -
Date: Sat, Jan 23 2010 19:15:34QUOTE (iColor @ Jan 23 2010, 01:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Spoiler:
Sonic to shadow hybrid?
shadow 23-12, just done in a different style then what is normally seen.
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Date: Sat, Jan 23 2010 20:11:25
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkmvtFxEguo
is there a name for this trick/hybrid? i master it myself and i don't see any other PSner doing this trick/hybrid,any1 mind to identify this? -
Date: Sat, Jan 23 2010 22:11:14
@icolor yeah i think whatever youre using is publishing it in 4:3
that looks like midbak > charge rev 12 > bak > midbak
but then again im 80% sure i'm wrong
it's kind of hard to tell.. -
Date: Sat, Jan 23 2010 22:37:42QUOTE (jonathan0608 @ Jan 23 2010, 04:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkmvtFxEguo
is there a name for this trick/hybrid? i master it myself and i don't see any other PSner doing this trick/hybrid,any1 mind to identify this?
erm, it's not a trick or a hybrid ... it's Backaround 12-12 > Pass Rev 12-23 > Neobackaround 23-12, over and over -
Date: Wed, Jan 27 2010 09:51:13
ok, so i was bored (as usual) and playing around with some tricks
i did a palm side sonic (normal) push 23 then caught it in 34
its basically a shadow but with hand held sideways
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Date: Sun, Jan 31 2010 15:52:09
"side" is not a valid modifier
Charge 12 > Fl* Middlearound 0.5 12-23
*It could also be Gravity MA or a hybrid with the Charge like a twisted Sonic -
Date: Sun, Jan 31 2010 16:18:29
For the most part, i know what tricks these are, just some varification would be appreciated, thanks :]
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Date: Wed, Feb 3 2010 01:09:31
I have thought of a theory of a trick that is a certain type of TA. But heres the thing, the pen moves up your thumb like a normal TA, but it spins like a reverse TA.
If you guys confirm of this trick (if its new or not) then i will make a vid on how to do it because I have already found a way to perform this trick. -
Date: Wed, Feb 3 2010 01:20:53QUOTE (glitchguy15 @ Feb 2 2010, 07:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I have thought of a theory of a trick that is a certain type of TA. But heres the thing, the pen moves up your thumb like a normal TA, but it spins like a reverse TA.
If you guys confirm of this trick (if its new or not) then i will make a vid on how to do it because I have already found a way to perform this trick.
http://www.upsb.info/forum/index.php?showtopic=1262 -
Date: Wed, Feb 3 2010 01:26:26QUOTE (Chief_Snake @ Feb 2 2010, 07:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
k, thanks ill ake a vid tommorow and post it. -
Date: Wed, Feb 3 2010 15:41:40QUOTE (glitchguy15 @ Feb 2 2010, 08:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>k, thanks ill ake a vid tommorow and post it.
i think its called counter thumbaround -
Date: Wed, Feb 10 2010 16:09:41
while i was learning some tricks i found myself doing another weird tricks lol and i mastered them
have it ever happen with anyone ?
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Date: Wed, Feb 10 2010 16:14:40
wtffff......
i have no idea how you just did that... -
Date: Wed, Feb 10 2010 16:39:02QUOTE (moshakes @ Feb 10 2010, 11:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>while i was learning some tricks i found myself doing another weird tricks lol and i mastered them
have it ever happen with anyone ?
lol here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qPj-je0J30
Spoiler:
its basically index spins rev and normal but started weird. if its hard to put in combos than no one will really use it a lot -
Date: Wed, Feb 10 2010 16:53:43QUOTE (Simplex @ Feb 10 2010, 12:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>wtffff......
i have no idea how you just did that...
me neither
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Date: Wed, Feb 10 2010 16:59:18QUOTE (RainbowAceOfSpades @ Feb 10 2010, 11:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>its basically index spins rev and normal but started weird. if its hard to put in combos than no one will really use it a lot
kinda like how sidespin is like a palm spin but started weird? -
Date: Thu, Feb 11 2010 05:02:47
I can see it used at a start of a combo, but it looks like you have to apply a lot of pressure for the trick. Awesome looking though! =]
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Date: Thu, Feb 11 2010 11:38:21
Slow motion would be nice if you're looking for some serious information, otherwise, looks nice
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Date: Fri, Feb 12 2010 01:12:05
moonwalk sonic is a trick where you use charge reverse and sonic reverse to perform it in a fall motion see vid
but is moon walk sonic reverse the one that uses sonic normals? and if it uses normal tricks shouldnt it be moonwalk sonic normal and the reverse should use reverse tricks explain or present your views -
Date: Sat, Feb 13 2010 21:40:18QUOTE (laspinspin @ Feb 12 2010, 02:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>moonwalk sonic is a trick where you use charge reverse and sonic reverse to perform it in a fall motion see vid
Spoiler:
but is moon walk sonic reverse the one that uses sonic normals? and if it uses normal tricks shouldnt it be moonwalk sonic normal and the reverse should use reverse tricks explain or present your views
Don't really understand your questions, so sorry if I dont answer ur questions
Moonwalk sonic uses charge normal, not charge reverse. The conic spin of the moonwalk sonic is the same as sonic normal, only that it travels down the hand instead of up as a sonic normal.
Moonwalk sonic uses normal tricks, Moonwalk sonic rev uses reverse tricks.
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Date: Sat, Mar 13 2010 07:36:51
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The spin is created by the clockwise, parallel-to-the-table, motion of the right hand. -
Date: Sat, Mar 13 2010 20:07:16
was doing inverse twisted sonic then this happened
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Date: Sat, Mar 13 2010 20:09:50
bad angle + no slo mo, but i think it's a neosonic 23-TF (MA rev 23-TF) -- dunno which naming is correct, but they're like the same thing
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Date: Sat, Mar 13 2010 20:12:07QUOTE (JC @ Mar 13 2010, 12:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>bad angle + no slo mo, but i think it's a neosonic 23-TF (MA rev 23-TF) -- dunno which naming is correct, but they're like the same thing
ill refilm in 1 min
DONE: -
Date: Mon, Mar 22 2010 04:47:20
This isnt just a regular spider spin, the push is different. -
Date: Mon, Mar 22 2010 16:45:26
looks like a perfectly normal MA ~> spider spin to me~
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Date: Mon, Mar 22 2010 18:46:12
What is this?????
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Date: Mon, Mar 22 2010 21:11:40
It seems like Cont [MiddleIndexBak 23-12 > Pass 12-23]
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Date: Mon, Apr 12 2010 13:04:23
well, I can't have a cam handyright now but tonight (HK time)
just did this trick or a hybrid while preparing for my test...
index back around normal ~> back tap normal
video update later, thanks~ -
Date: Tue, Apr 13 2010 12:15:39
I would call it counter neobak but thats just me and if I think thats what your talking about.
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Date: Sun, Apr 25 2010 04:49:12
Is this a new pen transfer concept?
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Date: Tue, Apr 27 2010 00:08:31
What is this??
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Date: Tue, Apr 27 2010 00:11:58QUOTE (Taikutsu @ Apr 24 2010, 11:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Is this a new pen transfer concept?
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Uh sorry but I don't think throwing (or sliding0 the pen between hands is a new concept. Although it does look kind of cool
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Date: Tue, Apr 27 2010 00:12:24QUOTE (glitchguy15 @ Apr 26 2010, 08:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>What is it when you start a sonic clip 34 and then, with out finishing the clip, do a sonic using your pinky and pointer that travels over your middle finger to 12?
sonic 34 ~ charge 24 > sonic 14-12?
just off the top of my head thats wat it sounds likeQUOTE (Taikutsu @ Apr 25 2010, 12:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Is this a new pen transfer concept?
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hes just tossing the pen lol -
Date: Tue, Apr 27 2010 02:14:13
he's sliding the pen across the table on the tip of the pen
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Date: Tue, Apr 27 2010 03:29:17
ok a while ago I talked about making this trick. I havent seen any other like it and it is quite complicated to land. the point is that the pen is moving UP my thumb (as if it were a normal thumbaround) but it has a reverse spin (as if a reverse thumbaround). New or old?
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Date: Tue, Apr 27 2010 03:45:35QUOTE (glitchguy15 @ Apr 26 2010, 11:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>ok a while ago I talked about making this trick. I havent seen any other like it and it is quite complicated to land. the point is that the pen is moving UP my thumb (as if it were a normal thumbaround) but it has a reverse spin (as if a reverse thumbaround). New or old?
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looks like reverse tap or a rev thumbspin? where is my sig -.-QUOTE (glitchguy15 @ Apr 26 2010, 08:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>What is this??
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sonic 34-24 > sonic 24-12???
had to watch it a few times -
Date: Tue, Apr 27 2010 10:26:19QUOTE (glitchguy15 @ Apr 27 2010, 11:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>ok a while ago I talked about making this trick. I havent seen any other like it and it is quite complicated to land. the point is that the pen is moving UP my thumb (as if it were a normal thumbaround) but it has a reverse spin (as if a reverse thumbaround). New or old?
Spoiler:
It looks like a thumbspin rev. with a variation in the launching part. It's quite hard to see though.
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Date: Tue, Apr 27 2010 12:21:35
It seems like that's a Side Spin Reverse
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Date: Tue, Apr 27 2010 16:09:42QUOTE (Oats121 @ Apr 26 2010, 10:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>looks like reverse tap or a rev thumbspin? where is my sig -.-
ur sig appears only once per page... -
Date: Mon, May 3 2010 21:31:36
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Llv15dBjaZU
What am I doing and how do I write the breakdown? -
Date: Tue, May 4 2010 12:59:28
I think it's TA reverse ~> Fingerless neobak 23-34 [Palm up]
but I'm not sure -
Date: Thu, May 6 2010 22:31:35QUOTE (RdHg @ May 3 2010, 04:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That looks like a rev. Ta>rev. Shadow 23-34 palm up. -
Date: Thu, Jun 3 2010 01:35:40
so i was working on my sonic clip, starting from 23 position. I can get that like 20% of the time, but it's robotic when i get to the 13 charge. But then I tried doing the sonic clip starting at 34 to 23, did it first try perfectly. Then i was like, how bout i do a hybrid with this and demon sonic, got that down, and it looks pretty nice.
It goes, 34 .5 charge - 24 1.0 charge - rev pass 24-12. (notation correct?)
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Date: Fri, Jun 4 2010 16:04:52
If notating like this you want to use "Interrupted" or "hybrid" notation, replacing > or -> with ~ or ~>
so it should actually be Sonic Clip 34-23 ~> Pass Rev 24-12
Indicating that you started doing a sonic clip, but before it finished you did a pass 24-12 -
Date: Fri, Jun 4 2010 21:29:25QUOTE (glitchguy15 @ May 6 2010, 06:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>That looks like a rev. Ta>rev. Shadow 23-34 palm up.
looks like ta rev > devils conversion variation
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Date: Wed, Jun 9 2010 21:46:12
Okay, can anyone tell me what KTrinh is doing 28 seconds into this video?
I see this trick in SO MANY videos, but i've never bothered to figure out what it is.
It almost looks like some kinda' thumb-bust to me. O.o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SI7voKk68ZI...layer_embedded#! -
Date: Wed, Jun 9 2010 23:38:21QUOTE (GreymanofHershal @ Jun 9 2010, 02:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Okay, can anyone tell me what KTrinh is doing 28 seconds into this video?
I see this trick in SO MANY videos, but i've never bothered to figure out what it is.
It almost looks like some kinda' thumb-bust to me. O.o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SI7voKk68ZI...layer_embedded#!
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