UPSB v3

Advanced Tricks / Infinity Thread

  1. loonwern93
    Date: Mon, Oct 8 2007 01:49:49

    can any1 give sum tips on goin thru the 2nd and middle finger? im stucked there?

    what pen should 1 use in infinity? is a pencil okay?

  2. sketching
    Date: Mon, Oct 8 2007 06:01:58

    Anything that you are capable of keeping a hold of will work. When learning the Infinity combos, you should make it easier on yourself and find something with a nice grip that will make it easier to keep a hold of. There's nothing short of practice that will help your fingers to better hold the pen in those positions.

    Wiki article: Infinity

  3. loonwern93
    Date: Tue, Oct 9 2007 12:16:16

    QUOTE (sketching @ Oct 8 2007, 02:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Anything that you are capable of keeping a hold of will work. When learning the Infinity combos, you should make it easier on yourself and find something with a nice grip that will make it easier to keep a hold of. There's nothing short of practice that will help your fingers to better hold the pen in those positions.


    thx i did it, i made the infinity, now learning other infinity ocmbos, your advice works, i juz stick some blue tac on my pen....(o^_^o)

  4. andrius123456789
    Date: Wed, Dec 26 2007 07:27:48

    I have another question about infinity normal. My brother is getting speed when he holds the pen between 1st and 2nd finger by his wrist, and I am getting speed by using my thumb. Which version is correct?

  5. raelz
    Date: Wed, Dec 26 2007 09:38:02

    QUOTE (andrius123456789 @ Dec 26 2007, 08:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I have another question about infinity normal. My brother is getting speed when he holds the pen between 1st and 2nd finger by his wrist, and I am getting speed by using my thumb. Which version is correct?

    I guess both are incorrect, the infinity is supposed to be nice and smooth all the time

  6. andrius123456789
    Date: Wed, Dec 26 2007 12:19:56

    So how should I get speed?

  7. Imagm-1337
    Date: Wed, Dec 26 2007 20:30:07

    I don't think those kind of "getting speed" is incorrect, it really depends on yourself, I guess. What I do for getting speed for Inifinities is doing the "wipers" using a lot of strength and kinda let the gravity pull to let the speed out.. You get what I mean?

  8. andrius123456789
    Date: Thu, Dec 27 2007 07:06:00

    no. You see I am new here and I don't know what "wipers" is.

  9. raelz
    Date: Thu, Dec 27 2007 10:31:28

    Wiper is the move when you move the pen trough your fingers in 0.5 revolution - it's the hard move in infinity (and the first). Look - you do a wiper at the start and thats the only place where you should get speed (ofc when you're newbie you have to practice, but thats how a good infinity looks like) and then it just flows easily trough your fingers...

  10. andrius123456789
    Date: Thu, Dec 27 2007 12:30:06

    I have got it now. Thanks a lot.

  11. Skittles
    Date: Thu, Dec 27 2007 20:08:29

    I have a question about the wiper (wrong topic?)
    I know how to do a wiper rev in T1, but how do you do it in 23?
    Is it just a charge rev in 23?

  12. Look Into the Sun
    Date: Thu, Dec 27 2007 20:34:05

    QUOTE (Skittles @ Dec 27 2007, 12:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I have a question about the wiper (wrong topic?)
    I know how to do a wiper rev in T1, but how do you do it in 23?
    Is it just a charge rev in 23?


    The wiper rev is a swing downwards between two fingers.

    Eso's tutorial might help: http://youtube.com/watch?v=ExyverNAQ2o

    The figure 8 is a combo consisting of the wiper rev and then a wiper done continuously. A figure 8 can also be done in slots 23. It's just harder.

  13. Skittles
    Date: Thu, Dec 27 2007 21:46:51

    Yes, I get how to do the wiper rev in T1 as I can do an infinity.
    But I just don't get how it is done in 12,23,or 34.
    I tried but it just turned out to be a charge, can anyone post a vid/link on a 23 wiper rev?

  14. sketching
    Date: Thu, Dec 27 2007 21:50:26

    Wiper @ the wiki

    Wiper Reverse is done the exact same way between any two fingers as it is done between the thumb and index finger.

  15. Skittles
    Date: Thu, Dec 27 2007 23:28:02

    Oh! Thanks Sketching.
    I get it now, so the wiper is that "hinging motion" Eso uses a lot in his tuts.

  16. lvlarky
    Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 10:38:32

    I have trouble on the part after you used the thumb to roll the pen over the index finger and the pen has landed between index and middle fingers. When I move the pen between the top joints of my finger counter clockwise the pen sometimes gets stuck below the joints of the two fingers.

    I have a double sided pen (you can write with both ends) that is completely SYMMETRICAL, is this making the trick difficult? Would it be better with a pen that has a "fat" part to it. So when I trap the fingers between the top joints, the rest of the pen won't get stuck when I do the second part of the Infinity.

    Man I hope you guys understood that.

  17. B3ndythumbs
    Date: Thu, Apr 3 2008 22:21:24

    Adding a fat part to your pen doesnt help. the best thing to do for beginners on infinity is to use a grip. this increases the friction between your fingers so its not as hard to do the wiper. also, the part where you swing it thru the index and middle fingers? the grip helps becuase since its fatter, your fingers'll be further apart.

    hope it helps!

  18. ppl2love
    Date: Sun, Apr 6 2008 07:23:27

    QUOTE (lvlarky @ Mar 8 2008, 04:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I have trouble on the part after you used the thumb to roll the pen over the index finger and the pen has landed between index and middle fingers. When I move the pen between the top joints of my finger counter clockwise the pen sometimes gets stuck below the joints of the two fingers.

    I have a double sided pen (you can write with both ends) that is completely SYMMETRICAL, is this making the trick difficult? Would it be better with a pen that has a "fat" part to it. So when I trap the fingers between the top joints, the rest of the pen won't get stuck when I do the second part of the Infinity.

    Man I hope you guys understood that.

    The only thing that would help is a grip=p. Doing infinities without a grip is really hard as the pen starts to slip really easily. The only way to get infinities smoothly is practice; there`s not much to learn just practice. It`s a fairly easy trick to do, the hard part is getting it smooth. Keep doing it and eventually you`ll be able to do it no problem=P.

  19. loonwern93
    Date: Sun, Apr 6 2008 08:13:05

    QUOTE (ppl2love @ Apr 6 2008, 03:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    The only thing that would help is a grip=p. Doing infinities without a grip is really hard as the pen starts to slip really easily. The only way to get infinities smoothly is practice; there`s not much to learn just practice. It`s a fairly easy trick to do, the hard part is getting it smooth. Keep doing it and eventually you`ll be able to do it no problem=P.


    yep practice makes perfect... wink.gif

  20. B3ndythumbs
    Date: Sun, Apr 6 2008 20:13:30

    when u trace the infinity, its horizontal rite? and the figure 8 trick is vertical? i think...

  21. someone09
    Date: Sun, Apr 6 2008 20:52:45

    a figure 8 is basically a wiper harmonic, whereas the infinity includes a pass to the next finger slot followed by another wiper

  22. pen_MAKer
    Date: Mon, Apr 7 2008 09:37:09

    1st - a grip is the best to use to do infinity

    2nd - practice...it takes some time

  23. FreeLancer
    Date: Thu, Apr 10 2008 00:47:55

    I'm having trouble doin multiple. Can't get the "walking" thing right.

  24. Teddy
    Date: Sat, Apr 12 2008 06:06:10

    QUOTE (FreeLancer @ Apr 9 2008, 07:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I'm having trouble doin multiple. Can't get the "walking" thing right.


    what do you mean by "walking" thing?

    the pen should rotate vertically conular while going in between 12 then (with your palm facing towards you) stretch your middle finger slightly away from you and let the pen fall from 12-23

  25. someone09
    Date: Sun, Apr 13 2008 02:44:35

    What's odd is that I can barely do multiple normal infinities but it's really easy for me to do multiple inverse. Anyway, if you're doing multiple inverse and you just finish the wiper in 12, it helps to drop the middle finger down to open up the slot for the pen to pass into it smoothly

  26. B3ndythumbs
    Date: Sun, Apr 13 2008 16:28:34

    Lol u can do inverse infinity but not normal? To do multiple normals, after the wiper 12, tilt ur hand sideways so ur thumb has room to go under the pen.

  27. Point
    Date: Tue, Aug 5 2008 20:34:33

    i'm having some troubles with infinity >.> i can do figure 8 fine but when i try to do the rev wiper 12 or the hinging part, either the pen gets stuck on my 2nd knuckle (counting from fingertips) or the space between my fingers aren't enough and the tip of the pen hits the top of my palm @.@ any tips on this?

  28. sketching
    Date: Wed, Aug 6 2008 17:57:49

    It seems like you are holding the pen too close to the palm of your hand. During the Wipers Reverse, the end of the pen should be held at the tip of the fingers.

    Go look at my video of Wipers @ the wiki. Notice how I'm holding the end of the cap at the tip of my fingers (I'm doing Wipers T1, but the same applies for all other finger slots). That way, the pen can swing between my fingers even though there is a metal tip extending past the cap. There is still plenty of room before the pen can hit the base of the fingers.

  29. ryzaku
    Date: Tue, Aug 12 2008 03:17:05

    it took me a while to learn the infinity. like a day. Justin use a dr- grip or a g2. it wont be smooth but it will be a start

  30. PatrickTanSG
    Date: Fri, Aug 29 2008 01:22:54

    i learned infinity first. i seriously think the best way to start off is with a drgrip on your pen.
    learned it with ballsign mods with signo tips.

  31. Outsmash
    Date: Fri, Aug 29 2008 12:23:47

    Does anyone know how to do an inverse infinity or reverse infinity. Any tutorials?

  32. PatrickTanSG
    Date: Fri, Aug 29 2008 14:57:53

    QUOTE (Outsmash @ Aug 29 2008, 08:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Does anyone know how to do an inverse infinity or reverse infinity. Any tutorials?


    good point. ialways wanted to learn rev infinity

  33. renwickftw
    Date: Sat, Aug 30 2008 12:41:19

    With my infinity, my wiper rev is faster than my wiper. Is this normal?

  34. nada
    Date: Sat, Aug 30 2008 12:49:23

    You might want to control the speeds so they're the same, since it'll look smoother that way.

  35. cheetah
    Date: Wed, Sep 10 2008 13:27:23

    This actually took me 20 to 30 minutes to learn O.o
    However, for some reason I don't think I'm doing it right so I uploaded a video of me doing it (what I think is infinity) and hopefully I'll receive some feedback smile.gif
    Video below, thank you!

  36. shoeman6
    Date: Wed, Sep 10 2008 19:02:10

    That's perfectly fine, I suggest less hand movement, which will come with time and trying to get more height between your first and second finger, but that's great awesome learning ;D

  37. cheetah
    Date: Wed, Sep 10 2008 19:09:57

    Yeah I know, I learned it really fast for some reason, I wish the other tricks were like that tongue.gif
    I also noticed that the spin in 12 is quite low after watching the vid a few times, have improved that though.
    Thanks again! <3

  38. shoeman6
    Date: Wed, Sep 10 2008 21:02:09

    =D! welcomeness , and yah, some tricks are easya nd sum take months of practice and dedication... =\

  39. BlueClueS(New pen Spinner)
    Date: Thu, Sep 18 2008 12:26:36

    If i do INFINITY.... do i nid let loose my fingers or grip it tightly( but not so tight ) ?

    And HOW TO DO CHARGE I nid GOOD VIDIEOS !! ON RIGHT HAND!! Help me pls T_T Poor me... If u could tell me is the pen on top of the index finger first ?



    ThankS if U Reply Me ( i really wanna become a good spinner )!!

  40. GSkyrunner
    Date: Thu, Sep 18 2008 12:34:33

    I recommend you to learning the Figure 8 before Infinity smile.gif , don't grap the pen too tight


    and for the charge tutorial >> http://www.youtube.com/results?search_quer...mp;search_type=
    find it yourself , a lot of tuts there

  41. BlueClueS(New pen Spinner)
    Date: Thu, Sep 18 2008 12:39:49

    Oo cool thanks i leant infinity... justt not so good anyway thanks i am gonna try Figure 8 now

  42. Point
    Date: Fri, Sep 19 2008 21:57:56

    in some vids i've seen ppl do like infinities in 24 slot, inf harmonic(i think?) or stuff like that. i think someone posted before some of the basis for these kind of infinities. anyone know them? i know they will be varied but i just want a general idea. thx ^^

  43. Lesserredpanda
    Date: Sat, Sep 20 2008 00:39:28

    rev infinity is rele annoying to me...i dont understand the hand movement at all

  44. Scandiacus
    Date: Thu, Oct 2 2008 08:08:39

    Um hi guys, any tips on quadruple infinity/extended?

    The thumb and pinky part after triple infinity confuses me a lot.

    Thanks.

  45. Chicken.Za
    Date: Thu, Oct 2 2008 11:34:59

    Thank you for info . tongue.gif

  46. shoeman6
    Date: Thu, Oct 2 2008 14:45:06

    The pinky does a little *charge* then passes under the 3rd finger to the 2-3 slot =]

  47. SunkaZlo
    Date: Fri, Oct 31 2008 15:24:26

    I'm trying to learn infinity & extended infinity

    I haven't got a good camera that's why I tryed to do tricks in slow motion

    Am I right that this is
    1) Infinity
    2) Extended Infinity

    and please give me some tips if I'm doing something wrong ..

  48. Outsmash
    Date: Fri, Oct 31 2008 15:34:58

    QUOTE (SunkaZlo @ Oct 31 2008, 09:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I'm trying to learn infinity & extended infinity

    I haven't got a good camera that's why I tryed to do tricks in slow motion

    Am I right that this is
    1) Infinity
    2) Extended Infinity

    and please give me some tips if I'm doing something wrong ..


    1) It's right but not smooth. Only 1 thing though.. You need to pass the pen from index and middle to thumb and index. Move your thumb underneath the pen and grab it with the thumb and index and let the middle finger go.

    2) Again same mistake but make sure the "first part of your trick" is a bit more curved (wiper reverse). Otherwise you got what it's supposed to be. Just dont forget the pass the pen from 12 to T1.. GL!

  49. SunkaZlo
    Date: Fri, Oct 31 2008 16:06:26

    Do you mean that I should hold pen only with 2 fingers while at he video I hold it with 3?
    If you mean this, I understand.

    I don't quite understand what you wanted to say about wiper. Do you mean I should do wiper horizontal ?
    If you can, please put your own video with ext. infinity. I will see and mb understand .. huh.gif


    I tryed to do it better.
    What I'm doing wrong now ? xD

  50. SunkaZlo
    Date: Mon, Nov 3 2008 19:18:52

    http://www.upsb.info/wiki/index.php/Extended_Infinity
    I can't understand breakdown t1-t1

    I don't know where are Wiper Reverse 12 & Pass Reverse 12-T1

    can somebody show in slow motion this trick. Please!

  51. FrozenIce
    Date: Mon, Nov 3 2008 23:54:57

    QUOTE (SunkaZlo @ Nov 3 2008, 11:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    http://www.upsb.info/wiki/index.php/Extended_Infinity
    I can't understand breakdown t1-t1

    I don't know where are Wiper Reverse 12 & Pass Reverse 12-T1

    can somebody show in slow motion this trick. Please!


    The Wiper Reverse is after the Charge 12, and after the Wiper Reverse 12, you perform the trick like a normal Infinity.

    Here's a video.

    Video -> Full View • Download


    I hoped this helped.

  52. SunkaZlo
    Date: Tue, Nov 4 2008 09:20:19

    If I'm not mistaken 00:02-00:03 is wiper reverse
    why 00:06-00:08 calls wiper reverse (+pass..).
    I think 00:02-00:03 looks like reverse of 00:06-00:08 ...

  53. Lafter
    Date: Tue, Nov 4 2008 23:51:57

    A pencil is the worst thing you can use. The best pen would be a pen with a large gripper. I always like infinitying on a gripper.

  54. SunkaZlo
    Date: Thu, Nov 6 2008 09:18:26

    QUOTE (SunkaZlo @ Nov 4 2008, 02:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    If I'm not mistaken 00:02-00:03 is wiper reverse
    why 00:06-00:08 calls wiper reverse (+pass..).
    I think 00:02-00:03 looks like reverse of 00:06-00:08 ...

    Can anybody explain why I'm mistaken if it isn't true

  55. Glamouraz
    Date: Sat, Nov 8 2008 09:56:55

    Doing reverse infinity confuses me IMO.

    ANyone got the same problem?

  56. Scandiacus
    Date: Sat, Nov 8 2008 11:56:03

    QUOTE (Glamouraz @ Nov 8 2008, 05:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Doing reverse infinity confuses me IMO.

    ANyone got the same problem?

    Yeah true. It kinda mess with my brain though.

    And the last part of Infinity Reverse (Wiper T1) looks weird for my case.

  57. Xternal
    Date: Sat, Nov 8 2008 13:08:17

    wtf is an rev. infi ohmy.gif
    glam teach me if we meet up