UPSB v3

Approved Tutorials / RSVP MX

Tutorial

  1. Eso
    Date: Mon, Oct 8 2007 05:29:53

    Since there was previously no topic of this on UPSB v3, I decided to make one. Seems like some people are just too lazy to search on the old UCPSB forums, so I'll make the research process 1 step shorter.


    RSVP MX
    -MX stands for "Maximum"
    -It is a modified pen (a.k.a a mod) that is made of 2 pens
    -Pentel Hybrid Gel Grips are found in Europe, mostly. If you can't find it in your store, chances are you don't live in Europe
    -Pentel RSVP are found in North America, mostly. If you can't find it in your store, chances are you don't live in North America

    -Substitute metal tips can include the following:
    ---Uniball Signo Gel Grip tip
    ---Uniball EX2 tip
    ---Pentel Hybrid Gel Roller tip
    ---Any metal tip that will fit on top of the RSVP plastic tip
    -Substitute grips can include the following:
    ---Papermate Profile
    ---Pilot G2
    ---One and a half RSVP grips (take 2 grips and cut one in half)

    -If the metal tip doesn't fit at first, use Teflon tape
    -Wiggle the tip to make sure it does not move. If it still moves, put a little more Teflon tape
    -It's recommended to put the metal tip first, THEN put on the grip
    -How far you stick the RSVP grip inside the cap is up to you
    -The insert size is 9.98 x 3.81 cm OR 3.93 x 1.5 in
    ---However, those dimensions are too long. Best fit is 8.8 cm x 3.81 cm OR 3.46 x 1.5 in

    -Other variations include:
    ---RSVP NX MMT - G2 barrel, G2 clicker
    ---RSVP MMX - G2 barrel
    ---RSVP AMMX - G2 barrel, Profile grip
    ---RSVP MSXA - Comssa Cap, Profile grip

  2. K4S
    Date: Mon, Oct 8 2007 05:31:35

    I vote this gets stickied.

  3. Lunchboxx
    Date: Mon, Oct 8 2007 05:37:43

    Hahaha a nine minute tut on the MX when it would be explained in like less then three nice eso xD

  4. C3rb3rus
    Date: Mon, Oct 8 2007 05:55:45

    i thought the video tutorial was great ... really helped me make my RSVP MX last week when i came across your video on youtube smile.gif

  5. sketching
    Date: Mon, Oct 8 2007 06:08:10

    QUOTE (Eso)
    -The insert size is 9.98 x 3.81 cm OR 3.93 x 1.5 in
    The long side of the insert really shouldn't be any longer than 9cm, otherwise it won't fit in the barrel.

  6. SpiN3Mz
    Date: Mon, Oct 8 2007 06:27:16

    Maybe I've just never caught it...buuut what does the "MX" stand for??
    I know like the MMX stands for Momentum MX, but yeh...

  7. K4S
    Date: Mon, Oct 8 2007 07:01:17

    I always thought it stood for "maximum"

  8. Sfsr
    Date: Mon, Oct 8 2007 09:58:02

    Yup, MX = MaXimum, MMX = Momentum MX.

    ...and MMT stands for MoMenTum, if anyone wants to know dry.gif

  9. Eso
    Date: Mon, Oct 8 2007 11:59:10

    QUOTE (sketching @ Oct 8 2007, 02:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    The long side of the insert really shouldn't be any longer than 9cm, otherwise it won't fit in the barrel.


    Correction, I just measured it and it's really 8.8 cm, otherwise it wouldn't fit. 8.8 cm stops just at the end of the barrel. Thanks for this notification.

    Lunch, you have no idea what kinds of questions I've seen. Let's just keep it that way, k?

    Edit:
    Case in point: Here is an email I got THIS MORNING!

    "rsvp mx is good pen?
    i dont know what buy. can u tell me it this a good/balanced pen?
    i see on ur tut's u almost always use ur's rsvp ms's


    sory for my english...
    i'm only 13 years old...
    thx"

    Even though I explained all those questions in the video.

  10. KinXiom
    Date: Mon, Oct 8 2007 22:14:34

    Only problem i have is that a signo gel tip is light and makes the RSVP unbalanced

  11. Rekkuuzan
    Date: Mon, Oct 8 2007 22:24:19

    huh(1).gif Shouldn't Signo tips make it more balanced?

  12. k2thez
    Date: Mon, Oct 8 2007 22:31:38

    QUOTE (Eso @ Oct 8 2007, 01:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    -Other variations include:
    ---RSVP MMT - G2 barrel, G2 clicker
    ---RSVP MMX - G2 barrel

    Aren't the RSVP MMT and MMX the same thing? I thought the RSVP NX MMT used the G2 barrel and clicker.

  13. nateiskewl
    Date: Mon, Oct 8 2007 23:28:07

    MMT is the Korean (and incorrect) naming for MMX. The RSVP MX variant that uses a G2 barrel, clicker, and HGG tip as a replacement for the HGG grip is a RSVP NX MMT.

    Just thought I would clear some things up. happy.gif

  14. K4S
    Date: Tue, Oct 9 2007 00:06:28

    QUOTE (KinXiom @ Oct 8 2007, 06:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Only problem i have is that a signo gel tip is light and makes the RSVP unbalanced

    A signo tip (the correct one) weighs significantly more than an HGG tip. If i had to guess i would say a signo tip weighs 2.5x as much as an hgg tip. RSVP MX's made with HGG tips are back heavy so by using a signo tip you should be shifting more of the balance to the front and therefore getting better overall balance. I have a feeling you arent using the right tip. It's either that or you've never spun an MX with an HGG tip and cant tell the difference.

  15. KinXiom
    Date: Tue, Oct 9 2007 00:26:12

    Most likely i got the wrong tip.. =[ It's plastic too dry.gif

    So sad me, i need o figure out how to make it balanced

  16. Lunchboxx
    Date: Tue, Oct 9 2007 00:41:26

    QUOTE
    Yup, MX = MaXimum, MMX = Momentum MX.

    Then shouldn't it be MXM for Maximum momentum xD rolleyes.gif

  17. Edge
    Date: Tue, Oct 9 2007 03:09:19

    Man, I always thought the MX meant reMiX.

  18. ZORAN
    Date: Tue, Dec 18 2007 17:54:24

    What's name of the second pen, i can't understand?

    It could be any pen with suitable grip or\and tip, right?

  19. K4S
    Date: Tue, Dec 18 2007 19:38:35

    QUOTE (ZORAN @ Dec 18 2007, 01:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    What's name of the second pen, i can't understand?

    It could be any pen with suitable grip or\and tip, right?

    ...and Eso's 100% fool-proof tutorial fails again rolleyes.gif


    To answer your questions you need:
    RSVP pen
    Hybrid gel grip (HGG) pen


    If you dont use those two, then it is not a real MX. You can substitute the hgg tip with other metal tips if you want and you can also replace hgg grip with other grips such as anyball/profile but it will not be a real MX if you do.

  20. sketching
    Date: Tue, Dec 18 2007 20:34:50

    Hybrid Gel Grip substitutes

  21. ZORAN
    Date: Tue, Dec 18 2007 20:48:12

    QUOTE (K4S @ Dec 18 2007, 02:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    To answer your questions you need:
    RSVP pen
    Hybrid gel grip (HGG) pen


    Thanks!

    QUOTE (K4S @ Dec 18 2007, 02:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    ...and Eso's 100% fool-proof tutorial fails again rolleyes.gif


    I don't think so, i think i just missed about it =)

  22. emblem
    Date: Fri, Dec 28 2007 06:35:41

    I just made a RSVP MX using a gel Impact RT for the metal tip.
    http://www.uniball-na.com/main.taf?p=2,2,4

    I actually meant to buy http://www.uniball-na.com/main.taf?p=2,2,5 that one though, but bought that RT instead. They didn't have the regular Impact at the store.

    Well I put some tape on the RSVP tip and then put on the grip and the metal tip. it looks right but should the metal tip be coming off so easily?

  23. Look Into the Sun
    Date: Fri, Dec 28 2007 07:21:39

    QUOTE (emblem @ Dec 27 2007, 10:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I just made a RSVP MX using a gel Impact RT for the metal tip.
    http://www.uniball-na.com/main.taf?p=2,2,4

    I actually meant to buy http://www.uniball-na.com/main.taf?p=2,2,5 that one though, but bought that RT instead. They didn't have the regular Impact at the store.

    Well I put some tape on the RSVP tip and then put on the grip and the metal tip. it looks right but should the metal tip be coming off so easily?


    If all else fails, super glue it. Or add a like 2 pieces of profile grip and have the hgg extend over the tip to add some protection.



    Make fun of my picture and you will die. >:]

  24. Aries
    Date: Fri, Dec 28 2007 08:53:29

    @lookinto.... ur pic looks like a banana nah jk nt though

    when i madea real RSVP MX with a HGG grip for some reason the grip was like 1cm shorter ...............so i just madea mx^2 with 1 hgg tip ;p

  25. Rekkuuzan
    Date: Fri, Dec 28 2007 17:31:48

    QUOTE (Aries @ Dec 28 2007, 12:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    @lookinto.... ur pic looks like a banana nah jk nt though

    when i madea real RSVP MX with a HGG grip for some reason the grip was like 1cm shorter ...............so i just madea mx^2 with 1 hgg tip ;p

    You're supposed to stretch it yourself either by hand, or with continued use (doing Infinities for example).

  26. Jack
    Date: Sat, Jan 26 2008 06:29:06

    QUOTE (K4S @ Oct 8 2007, 04:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    A signo tip (the correct one) weighs significantly more than an HGG tip. If i had to guess i would say a signo tip weighs 2.5x as much as an hgg tip. RSVP MX's made with HGG tips are back heavy so by using a signo tip you should be shifting more of the balance to the front and therefore getting better overall balance. I have a feeling you arent using the right tip. It's either that or you've never spun an MX with an HGG tip and cant tell the difference.

    I think the most people with problems with the signo tips are because they're using the retractable ones. only the regular metal tipped non retractable signos make good tips.

  27. NoRice4U
    Date: Sat, Jan 26 2008 06:31:51

    QUOTE (Jack @ Jan 25 2008, 10:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I think the most people with problems with the signo tips are because they're using the retractable ones. only the regular metal tipped non retractable signos make good tips.


    most people here refer to the nonretractable one when they refer to signo tips tongue.gif(i think.. lulz)

  28. QuestionMark
    Date: Mon, Feb 11 2008 14:00:18

    Hey I have a question...I have a normal RSVP MX nothing special and the wieght of it is kinda light for me...any suggstions on how to make it more heavy?

  29. Outlander
    Date: Mon, Feb 11 2008 14:30:26

    ... turn it into an MX^2 happy.gif

  30. B3ndythumbs
    Date: Sat, Apr 5 2008 16:15:17

    For the metal hgg tip, can i superglue it on instead of telfon tape? cuz i dont have that. and my parents won't buy it for me. i would think glue is more permanent.

  31. Invincibleman
    Date: Sat, Apr 5 2008 16:25:39

    of course you can use glue really the only reason we use tape is so we can take it off later.

  32. k2thez
    Date: Sat, Apr 5 2008 18:09:43

    QUOTE (B3ndythumbs @ Apr 5 2008, 11:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    For the metal hgg tip, can i superglue it on instead of telfon tape? cuz i dont have that. and my parents won't buy it for me. i would think glue is more permanent.

    You don't have to use teflon tape, but it's the better choice. Since some super glues take the moisture out of the plastic, the MX will be more prone to break if you drop it on hard surfaces.

  33. B3ndythumbs
    Date: Sun, Apr 6 2008 13:30:49

    oh ok. uh and also, wut is the point of poking a hole thru the back plug and reversing the ink tube? is it only becuase so it wont write? i cut myself twice with my pocketknife trying to make a hole XD

  34. k2thez
    Date: Sun, Apr 6 2008 14:26:45

    QUOTE (B3ndythumbs @ Apr 6 2008, 08:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    oh ok. uh and also, wut is the point of poking a hole thru the back plug and reversing the ink tube? is it only becuase so it wont write? i cut myself twice with my pocketknife trying to make a hole XD

    The point of reversing the ink is so it can write.

  35. sangara
    Date: Tue, Apr 8 2008 04:12:22

    I see all these questions about putting tips on... am I the only one who just screws on the HGG tip really hard to the RSVP body? It works fine and has never fallen off for me.

  36. NoRice4U
    Date: Tue, Apr 8 2008 04:15:30

    QUOTE (sangara @ Apr 7 2008, 08:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I see all these questions about putting tips on... am I the only one who just screws on the HGG tip really hard to the RSVP body? It works fine and has never fallen off for me.


    I dont have teflon tape sad.gif so i do that too

  37. ArchAngel
    Date: Tue, Apr 8 2008 04:19:14

    Does it take a lot of force?

  38. Tylt
    Date: Tue, Apr 8 2008 04:20:31

    QUOTE (ArchAngel @ Apr 7 2008, 08:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Does it take a lot of force?



    Not really. just like some pressure
    and then you'll feel it catch threads and
    be on.

  39. ArchAngel
    Date: Tue, Apr 8 2008 04:33:36

    So there's no risk involved?....Good wink.gif

  40. sketching
    Date: Tue, Apr 8 2008 04:35:17

    As long as you apply downward force directly into the tip along with the twisting motion, you should be just fine.

  41. sangara
    Date: Tue, Apr 8 2008 04:42:31

    easiest way to do it is to put the tip inside the grip and the on the tip of the RSVP then start turning until you cant turn anymore using the grip actually as a grip laugh.gif

  42. pen_MAKer
    Date: Tue, Apr 8 2008 08:31:25

    you forgot to say Kam first made it...and it helped me building my MX by the way^^

    ty alot^^

  43. FreeLancer
    Date: Thu, Apr 10 2008 00:33:07

    Since HGGs are very rare where i live, i kinda replaced the grip with like, two shorter grips. It looks kinda bad but i guess it'll do for now. =P

  44. someone09
    Date: Thu, Apr 10 2008 00:40:49

    I don't see why people use teflon tape to keep on the tip. If i push the tip and screw it in a little, it stays in very securely.

    Freelancer: you could probably use a G2 grip instead

  45. k2thez
    Date: Thu, Apr 10 2008 01:00:17

    QUOTE (someone09 @ Apr 9 2008, 07:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I don't see why people use teflon tape to keep on the tip. If i push the tip and screw it in a little, it stays in very securely.

    Freelancer: you could probably use a G2 grip instead

    Teflon tape is used to secure the tip further. Screwing the HGG tip onto the RSVP is fine, but it weakens the plastic a little.

  46. FreeLancer
    Date: Thu, Apr 10 2008 01:00:41

    Yeah you're right. Im gonna try Profile first though.

  47. Kam
    Date: Thu, Apr 10 2008 01:56:50

    QUOTE (B3ndythumbs @ Apr 5 2008, 09:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    For the metal hgg tip, can i superglue it on instead of telfon tape? cuz i dont have that. and my parents won't buy it for me. i would think glue is more permanent.


    QUOTE (Invincibleman @ Apr 5 2008, 09:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    of course you can use glue really the only reason we use tape is so we can take it off later.


    It's not recommended to use superglue. I've had the tip of the RSVP break on me when using superglue. The problem is that if you drop the pen a certain way really hard, all the impact goes to the body of the RSVP. With the teflon tape, some of the impact is absorbed. You can also use silicon glue, but it's messier and if you somehow pull the tip, it's harder to reglue it.

    QUOTE (k2thez @ Apr 6 2008, 07:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    The point of reversing the ink is so it can write.


    Well, an original RSVP can also write tongue.gif The point of reversing the ink originally was so you could spin the pen without getting ink on your clothes wink.gif

  48. Hachii
    Date: Sun, Apr 13 2008 01:57:47

    This is generally an easier RSVP MX


    Materials needed:

    -lighter
    -nail clippers
    -file
    -2 RSVPS Any Color
    -Any metal tip
    -Insert
    -Drill/Thumbtack

    How to build:

    1. Take apart both RSVPs.

    2. Take your first grip and put it back normally on one RSVP barrel. Set that aside for now.

    3. Get one of the back caps and drill/make a hole in the center of it, just big enough to fit the writing part of the pen.

    4. Assemble the back cap and the writing/inktank part together so the pen is reversed. Set that aside with your barrel for now.

    5. Pick up your barrel and your lighter, start melting the part of the pen where the metal pen thing used to write out of.. i.e. the opposite side of the back cap.

    6. Now quickly attatch the metal tip to the melted plastic and push hard.

    7. Let it dry and now it should be somewhat stuck to your pen making it not able to leak and harder to break, and you don't need to use tape happy.gif. Its optional to get thread and ring it around the crevice that the metal tip didn't cover.

    8. Now put your insert in the barrel and then put the back cap back with the pen on.

    9. Now take the pen cap and the 2nd RSVP grip and push it up the inside of the cap.

    10. Now that you have a cap with a grip inside you're gonna have to break the clip, you can use your hands or your nail clippers to chip away at the clip.

    11. Now that the clip is gone its going to be somewhat sharp, this is where you use your lighter again. Melt the sharp edges of the clip to smoothen it, be sure not to burn it or melt everything out of shape. You can also use another pen to shape the melted plastic.

    12. Attach the cap to the back cap and push until the plastic is past the back cap by just a little.

    13. Finally you're done.


    Well, I figured this out by myself while trying to figure out how to fix scratches on my RSVP and make it more solid. Lighter is a VERY common item in the house so, it shouldn't be hard to get one. Please take precautions when using fire. If you mess up, HAHA! But, RSVPs are easily found and replaced. Make sure not to set your pen on fire also. Have fun with your alternate RSVP MX. Tell me if you have any trouble with my guide. I just made this because I'm bored.

    Finished Product Pictures:






  49. someone09
    Date: Sun, Apr 13 2008 02:06:01

    Do you melt the plastic tip area so the rsvp grip can cover the whole area up to the tip?

  50. Teddy
    Date: Sun, Apr 13 2008 02:13:16

    ...so it's just an rsvp mx with an rsvp grip on the front instead of an hgg?

  51. Hachii
    Date: Sun, Apr 13 2008 02:17:59

    QUOTE (someone09 @ Apr 12 2008, 10:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Do you melt the plastic tip area so the rsvp grip can cover the whole area up to the tip?



    Melt the tip of the plastic so the metal tip can go over it, put the grip on before though.

    @Teddy

    Its also another way to make it with a lighter and some other stuff instead of the tedious file.



    Update:

    Pictures

  52. someone09
    Date: Sun, Apr 13 2008 02:20:26

    picture is missing
    You don't usually have to melt the plastic to have the metal tip fit. It usually stays on ok if you just push it in, and a larger grip that fits over the tip helps.

  53. Hachii
    Date: Sun, Apr 13 2008 02:22:05

    The metal tip would be stuck to the plastic making it harder to break because it was melted and then you pressed it on while it was hot causing the plastic to shapeshift into the grip shape?

  54. someone09
    Date: Sun, Apr 13 2008 02:30:48

    That doesn't look like an rsvp grip. O.o did you stretch it?

  55. Hachii
    Date: Sun, Apr 13 2008 02:32:19

    Theres gonna be a gap between the RSVP Grip and the Metal Grip, I just used some thread.

  56. sketching
    Date: Sun, Apr 13 2008 02:32:21

    Hachii, have you seen the Engo Blendo DX? The only difference between that mod and yours is that Eng's mod has another, better grip over the RSVP grip on the front.

  57. Hachii
    Date: Sun, Apr 13 2008 02:34:40

    No, I haven't. And I didn't ''invent'' this mod , I just wanted to share it.. because I like to play with fire >.>

  58. someone09
    Date: Sun, Apr 13 2008 02:35:51

    huh.gif that's interesting

  59. Hachii
    Date: Sun, Apr 13 2008 02:39:51

    The pen looks pretty sexy too though.

  60. tomohiro
    Date: Sun, Apr 13 2008 05:42:36

    it looks ok but i hate how there's a reli fat tip in the front

  61. Outlander
    Date: Sun, Apr 13 2008 13:51:13

    Not a bad alternative I guess happy.gif

  62. -Cyber^Monkey-
    Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 16:14:56

    i want to make and rsvp mx but i cant find a HGG so can you use a uni-ball signo gel grip

    Eso: Yes, you can use the Signo metal tip in substitution of the HGG tip

  63. Webo Splash
    Date: Wed, Jun 11 2008 23:13:00

    Im making a Profile/Signo tipped MX and Idk how to attach the signo tip to the rsvp CORRECTLY. Do you sand the rsvp part down a bit? I've been on psing for about 1 1/2 years and I still dont know how to make an american based pen lol. Pleace help?

  64. Baaron
    Date: Wed, Jun 11 2008 23:15:09

    Put on lots of teflon tape
    And put things like that into here:
    http://www.upsb.info/forum/index.php?showt...t=0&start=0

  65. Echo
    Date: Sat, Jan 24 2009 03:50:08

    Awesome tutorial, couldve never figured it out by myself, thx.

  66. don
    Date: Thu, Apr 2 2009 05:41:36

    any1 know where to get a rsvp mx in singapore?? or the parts in singapore..i need help

  67. Jamx
    Date: Fri, Apr 3 2009 11:43:24

    i have 27

  68. Shrouded Figure
    Date: Fri, Apr 3 2009 13:17:57

    27 what