UPSB v3
Board Comments / Flaming
Why???
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Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 00:05:08
I have noticed that there has been WAY to much flaming and WAY to much inappropriate language. There are many many many newcomers coming and i don't think that we should keep on flaming and being all asshole-like. If you have a problem with someone then tell a mod or something. i know that sounds really gay and childish but seriously i think that if you cuss than you should get a warning and a second time then you are banned. I'm not saying don't say "shut up" or anything like that but when people start getting into flame wars its enough. We really need to satrt cutting down on flame and cussing and inapropriate stuff.
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Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 00:12:30
Its a fact of life. Flaming and cursing are just things you can't avoid.
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Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 00:13:03
flames are generally mutual, and if they aren't, they're always stopped
and excessive flaming in the wrong areas of the board are always stopped as well -
Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 00:14:14
Flaming and the internet cannot exist without one anothet ;]
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Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 00:16:52
Dude this is all part of what goes on in the intarwebz.
Deal with it.
Man up, dont be a pussy. -
Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 00:18:59
hey I could care less about people cussing. its that alot of the members on this board are just ASSHOLES!!! like when people flame just for the heck of it.
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Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 00:20:49
People dont flame for "the heck of it" -
Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 00:23:13
yeah they really dont
some people...
not to point at aod or anything...
have short fuses
but no one flames random people for no reason -
Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 00:25:51
OK im just saying that we need to be a little bit more conscientious of the cussing/flaming we do
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Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 00:26:48
Lolwhat for?
It is the way it is and if noobs get flamed, it because they didn't read the rules. -
Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 00:28:24
i agree that they should read the rules but do your friends cuss you out or flame u for making a mistake? (mine dont)
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Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 00:29:29
we dont flame for that either
seriously, like, find a specific case for us to argue at least, because this is ridiculous -
Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 00:29:38QUOTE (daffy @ Oct 28 2008, 04:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i think that if you cuss than you should get a warning and a second time then you are banned.QUOTE (daffy @ Oct 28 2008, 04:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>hey I could care less about people cussing. its that alot of the members on this board are just ASSHOLES!!! like when people flame just for the heck of it.
? You are contradicting yourself.
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Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 00:30:36QUOTE (Shadowserpant @ Oct 28 2008, 05:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>we dont flame for that either
seriously, like, find a specific case for us to argue at least, because this is ridiculous
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Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 00:31:02
what i meant wus really CUSS SOMEONE OUT -
Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 00:33:35
Then why did you add flaming to your originial post?
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Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 00:34:03
it depends where the flaming is, ps-related sections sohuld be safe, OT is not, shoutbox is not but it should be, but it's hard to monitor.
swearing was always allowed, as long as its not used as flaming. -
Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 00:34:46QUOTE (daffy @ Oct 28 2008, 05:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> what i meant wus really CUSS SOMEONE OUTQUOTEWho says the cuss words are bad? YOU. It's not a universal rule that they are bad.
My point again, nobody says they are bad, you are the one that thinks they are bad. -
Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 00:35:22
@mike + flaming and im not talking about facepalm or somthing im talking about really being mean
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Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 00:35:54
again, no one does things unprovoked...
you really need some examples man -
Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 00:37:33
That depends how idiotic the flamee *lolwut?* is.
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Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 00:38:52
i still think that if someone is caught cussing or flaming someone really bad than they shuld be banned rite away or they shuld be given a warning. (im not sure if thats already what happens)
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Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 00:40:53
that's so ridiculous, this is not elementary school where u go tell your teacher because a kid said shut up
some people deal with their own problems on their own, and as long as it's in the right place there's nothing wrong with that -
Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 00:42:03
It's just like the people with prop 8. Just because you either are or are influenced by soccer moms, why do you try to give such a severe punishment? Like Shadowserpant said, most people on here don't flame without provocation.
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Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 00:42:53
OK again, i said that saying shut up or w.e doesnt hurt anyone
ok you guys i dont want to be a freaking mother. i think that we should be more tight about cussing/flaming. i dont want to have a huge argument about this. i was stating my opinion and thats that -
Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 00:45:53
http://www.upsb.info/forum/index.php?s=&am...ost&p=38933
i was even warned in my intro thread
plus there's a warning right outside the spammers bin
P.S. idk why i didnt respond to that zombo, yeah i know it's serpent i spelled it wrong when i was little and kept it lol -
Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 00:47:57
*sarcasticly* Ok, while we're at it, we should also ban people for typing in 1337 and for typing in un-perfect grammar.
WHY?
Because no one understands them. -
Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 02:42:53
I kinda see what you mean daffy, there is a lot of rediculousness(?) in UPSB. It's hard to explain though...and it makes it even harder to explain with people that are anally technical about everythingfighting against you...
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Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 02:49:41QUOTE (Mike @ Oct 28 2008, 05:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Man up, dont be a pussy.
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Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 04:08:45
flaming outside of the spammer's bin is an automatic warning. it has always been the case.
unless it was in OT and there was a chance to move the thread to SB
cussing is never gonna me moderated ever, sorry. -
Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 11:51:42
This topic is completely point less. Flaming is not only a part of the internet but a part of life.
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Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 13:13:03
people flame aries all the time, just becuz he gave his opinion on something and u guys didnt like it
*cough*ariesvs.sangarathread*cough* -
Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 18:50:02
Flaming happens, therefore it should be permissible? Excellent justification. Some of you should try defending rapists and murderers in court using the same reasoning.
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Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 22:53:14QUOTE (Zombo @ Oct 28 2008, 09:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>cussing is never gonna me moderated ever, sorry.
Why not? I think that the profanity gives people a bad impression about UPSB.
ABOUT FLAMING:
Also, taken directly from the UPSB User agreement, "You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this bulletin board to post any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise violative of any law."
Clearly, the Spammer's Bin violates this sentence. I personally think that flaming threads should not be allowed anywhere, even in the spammers bin. Having been the victim of such a thread is NOT fun(Yes, through personal experience here). Sure the thread can be closed if you request, but the fact that someone flamed you in a thread is disturbing(sorry, don't know how to put it).
And to those of you that think flaming newcomers is okay: They just joined! They want to get accustomed to the board and all you do is yell at them with abusive comments? Personally, I've never really seen that happen, but no, flaming should be banned on this board, not even in the Spammer's Bin, period. -
Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 23:05:46QUOTE (FrozenIce @ Oct 29 2008, 03:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Why not? I think that the profanity gives people a bad impression about UPSB.
ABOUT FLAMING:
Also, taken directly from the UPSB User agreement, "You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this bulletin board to post any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise violative of any law."
Clearly, the Spammer's Bin violates this sentence. I personally think that flaming threads should not be allowed anywhere, even in the spammers bin. Having been the victim of such a thread is NOT fun(Yes, through personal experience here). Sure the thread can be closed if you request, but the fact that someone flamed you in a thread is disturbing(sorry, don't know how to put it).
And to those of you that think flaming newcomers is okay: They just joined! They want to get accustomed to the board and all you do is yell at them with abusive comments? Personally, I've never really seen that happen, but no, flaming should be banned on this board, not even in the Spammer's Bin, period.
1. You actually read the user agreement?
2. Why do you have to try and suck all the fun out of everthing? -
Date: Thu, Oct 30 2008 00:01:06QUOTE (FrozenIce @ Oct 29 2008, 05:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>And to those of you that think flaming newcomers is okay: They just joined! They want to get accustomed to the board and all you do is yell at them with abusive comments? Personally, I've never really seen that happen, but no, flaming should be banned on this board, not even in the Spammer's Bin, period.
It's called hazing. And seriously, if you take an insult over the internet this seriously, then you need to go out more. -
Date: Thu, Oct 30 2008 00:12:30QUOTE (Shadowserpant @ Oct 28 2008, 05:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>flames are generally mutual, and if they aren't, they're always stopped
and excessive flaming in the wrong areas of the board are always stopped as well
yes...i definitely agree that flaming should be stopped. -
Date: Thu, Oct 30 2008 00:36:45
the spammers bin is clearly a place that is EXCEPTED FROM THE GENERAL RULES OF UPSB
rae, don't speak for other people. You obviously have no idea why aries is disliked, if you honestly think we do all this because he thought long names were noobish -
Date: Thu, Oct 30 2008 00:47:10QUOTE (FrozenIce @ Oct 29 2008, 06:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Why not? I think that the profanity gives people a bad impression about UPSB.
ABOUT FLAMING:
etc...
the spammer bin's is the exception to this rule. -
Date: Thu, Oct 30 2008 00:52:39
flaming is fine if ur emotional suck it up hey my first day on upsb i got flamed by 15 ppl for saying sumthing stupid until K4S stopped it so w/e and since there are so many new ppls that make crazy ugy and long mods hey y not flame em to teach em a lesson and No on Prop 8
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Date: Thu, Oct 30 2008 02:14:43
lol....i just hope that there will b no more flaming on UPSB, as my friend FrozenIce complains about that...
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Date: Thu, Oct 30 2008 03:19:08QUOTE (Shadowserpant @ Oct 29 2008, 05:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>the spammers bin is clearly a place that is EXCEPTED FROM THE GENERAL RULES OF UPSB
rae, don't speak for other people. You obviously have no idea why aries is disliked, if you honestly think we do all this because he thought long names were noobish
if you don't mind telling me sir, please explain. -
Date: Thu, Oct 30 2008 03:54:27
like i said before, everybody has the right to request protection from personal attacks,
if aries or any other ppl wants to be safe from flaming, that's fine, just need to ask the mods. otherwise we assume you don't care -
Date: Thu, Oct 30 2008 03:56:51
pls protect my friend "frozenice" and I from being flamed, as we are rated down for just having our usernames. Frozenice tells me sometimes at school that he hates being flamed, and that both of our ratings went down due to unreasoned anger. Zombo (ur awesome...zombo.com lol), can u or any of the mods do anything about it???
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Date: Thu, Oct 30 2008 04:01:08
...i honestly don't see anyone flaming you...
nate made one thread against frozenice. it was closed. Sangara remade it. it was deleted, and sangara was warned.
what else are they supposed to do? -
Date: Thu, Oct 30 2008 04:07:50
oh thx shadowserpent...i'll tell frozenice. I wasn't liked for some reason when i first joined...but i guess i sort of fit in now. Thx so much!
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Date: Thu, Oct 30 2008 04:22:41
by rating you mean user profile stars? lol who cares about that. it doesn't affect anything at all. we can't control how ppl rate.
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Date: Sun, Nov 2 2008 20:35:17QUOTE (Zombo @ Oct 30 2008, 04:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>if aries or any other ppl wants to be safe from flaming, that's fine, just need to ask the mods. otherwise we assume you don't care
This means you allow uncalled for flaming, as long as the person being flamed doesn't notice or doesn't care enough to react about it.
Awesome. -
Date: Sun, Nov 2 2008 21:50:43QUOTE (Sfsr @ Nov 2 2008, 12:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>This means you allow uncalled for flaming, as long as the person being flamed doesn't notice or doesn't care enough to react about it.
Awesome.
Yup -
Date: Mon, Nov 3 2008 01:39:19QUOTE (Sfsr @ Nov 2 2008, 03:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>This means you allow uncalled for flaming, as long as the person being flamed doesn't notice or doesn't care enough to react about it.
Awesome.
ONLY IN THE SPAMMER'S BIN omg
if you flame someone anywhere else, its gone -
Date: Mon, Nov 3 2008 07:41:33
Still, it's flaming. I think all form of flaming should be discouraged and forbidden in a forum. And you don't seem to mind flaming in off-topic either?
I'll stop bitching about it now, but I think the moderating team should think this over once more.
Thank you and goodnight
(actually I'm just about to go to school now, but still) -
Date: Mon, Nov 3 2008 09:07:05QUOTE (Sfsr @ Nov 3 2008, 02:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Still, it's flaming. I think all form of flaming should be discouraged and forbidden in a forum. And you don't seem to mind flaming in off-topic either?
I'll stop bitching about it now, but I think the moderating team should think this over once more.
Thank you and goodnight (actually I'm just about to go to school now, but still)
Eh i thought you brought up a good issue Sfsr that really needs to be addressed honestly.....
When i was a starting spinner, i was just playing around in the spammer's bin, tried starting a funny topic to maybe try and meet some fellow board members, and i totally just got (what i considered) flamed by the first three posts, and that really turned me off from even trying to interact with board members in the future....Even though i realize now they were probably just fucking around with me, and it was the spammers bin, so I shouldn't have taken it personally, I really think that flaming should not be in any part of the board unless its acknowledged by both people that they aren't being serious, or it can really just prevent people from enjoying themselves.... -
Date: Mon, Nov 3 2008 13:21:34
Let's get this straight
I dont ENCOURAGE flaming. I think it's stupid. In fact, I don't even encourage the use of Spammer's Bin. To me, the concept of having a section just for useless crap is unnecessary. BUT the people asked for it, so we listened and actually made it happen.
So it's not up to us to decide what happens in the SB. It will take a conscious effort from all SB users to improve their attitude. SB must be ruled more like a democracy. If you guys all decide that flaming is not allowed, then it wont happen naturally.
If SB is governed like the rest of the board, might as well just remove it. It defeats the purpose.
@Sfsr: NO, OT flaming is not allowed, but usually if it happens it gets moved to SB. -
Date: Mon, Nov 3 2008 16:30:32
As for the SB, I thought the reason it was "made" (or at least separated) was to allow explicit content, not necessarily to let anything happen in there (like flaming).
If people want to flame, they don't need to do so on UPSB imo.
http://www.upsb.info/forum/index.php?s=&am...st&p=188747 -
Date: Mon, Nov 3 2008 20:45:47QUOTE (Sfsr @ Nov 3 2008, 11:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>As for the SB, I thought the reason it was "made" (or at least separated) was to allow explicit content, not necessarily to let anything happen in there (like flaming).
uhh no, explicit content?? porn is not allowed in SB
the point of SB is u can write whatever u want in there.
look man, if u want to stop ppl from flaming in SB, u gotta put a poll up. if majority of ppl wants no flaming in SB, then ill hire some new mods to take care of it. i just dont have enough manpower to take care of everything. -
Date: Tue, Nov 4 2008 03:09:43
I'm against flaming.
When I just got here, everyone started flaming me.
Why do people wanna flame each other in the first place? This is a discussion board.. -
Date: Tue, Nov 4 2008 03:23:18
lol i posted in the spammers bin
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obviously i fully intended to flame hira, and that was in off-topic, and that was wrong of me to do
and about the spammers bin, it's just like zombo said, and plus, most people know when they're being flamed....
it's kind of the point, to let them see it -
Date: Tue, Nov 4 2008 09:08:03
This whole "Flaming should be stopped" argument is ridiculous. People don't flame for the sake of it unless they are assholes. To me flaming is necessary.
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Date: Tue, Nov 4 2008 09:53:30
people flaming is fine for me, but I expect there to be consequences. if I flamed someone intentionally, I'd expect the mods to do something about it. I wouldn't flame unless I thought it was worth a warning or whatever they could throw at me. I think everyone should think like this, instead of just saying it's allowed in SB. it is in the rules after all, "Do not flame/insult others".
http://www.upsb.info/forum/index.php?showtopic=13274 -
Date: Tue, Nov 4 2008 13:43:40
well the whole idea of SB is a section where nothing is serious at all, anything going on in there is worthless
if u're really angry, chances are you're gonna flame the guy somewhere outside of SB, where you'll get your punishment. -
Date: Thu, Nov 6 2008 22:58:23
lololol.
No flaming on upsb would make upsb not upsb :P
me personally, on the internet and your being a dumb ass no duh people are going to flame you,
like shadow said MOST people dont flame for no reason.
*cough AoD*
I think its really the person that being flamed for doing what they did.
hence teh flaming.
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Date: Fri, Dec 26 2008 17:51:22
What does flaming mean??
No one really elaborated on it and this is the first time i heard of it
I also read the MUST READ thing and all it said was no flaming and spamming
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Date: Fri, Dec 26 2008 22:01:05
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Date: Sat, Dec 27 2008 21:42:30
Thank you. that makes sense.
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Date: Fri, Mar 27 2009 07:56:14
I think you guys should really do something about this, PSUK called us FAGGOTS already.
PSUK was a board with nice peeps , they dont flame that much.. maybe they flame like 40% of the time -
Date: Fri, Mar 27 2009 09:57:17
Well flaming exist everywhere. They are the bunch of people who take the internet too seriously.
As for the cursing, I don't think there is much problem. Do you get offended from seeing "That's fucking awesome!" or something like that. Anyhow, there are a lot of people here, and so-called "net-manners" are lightly taken here, so as long as you don't cause problem, there isn't much problem for cursing. stuff like "Shit", "Fuck", "Bitch", "Fag" and stuff like that. Almost all of us take it as a joke.
I think anything's fine as long as you don't offend anyone.
Newcomers. Well if what I learned is not wrong, I believe that most country that use English as national language is loose with "manners" in Net. They are very casual with the talking and stuff.
Of course if it's the Japanese, that's another different story (I don't know about other countries) because they take "net-manners" very seriously in JEB. They might have a hard time getting in here, they'll probably find us all a "super-flamers", which isn't true. But first, most of them don't speak Enligsh fluently, so they don't really have any point of registering here other than for trading.
But yes, flaming sucks. But you can't do anything about it. It happens. Shit Happens. -
Date: Fri, Mar 27 2009 10:18:20QUOTE (Mats @ Mar 27 2009, 06:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>But you are faggots. You cannot complain about the truth!
But we can change the truth. -
Date: Fri, Mar 27 2009 11:24:08QUOTE (Bammer09メKT @ Mar 27 2009, 03:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I think you guys should really do something about this, PSUK called us FAGGOTS already.
PSUK was a board with nice peeps , they dont flame that much.. maybe they flame like 40% of the time
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we can't moderate flaming on another board dude.. what happens on PSUK has nothing to do with us. -
Date: Fri, Mar 27 2009 13:01:48QUOTE (Zombo @ Mar 27 2009, 07:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>???
we can't moderate flaming on another board dude.. what happens on PSUK has nothing to do with us.
i mean moderating on this board. -
Date: Fri, Mar 27 2009 13:46:57QUOTE (Bammer09メKT @ Mar 27 2009, 09:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i mean moderating on this board.
and what does that have anything to do with psuk? why did you bring that up -
Date: Fri, Mar 27 2009 15:28:10QUOTE (Zombo @ Mar 27 2009, 08:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>and what does that have anything to do with psuk? why did you bring that up
because they are good examples. -
Date: Fri, Mar 27 2009 15:43:52
Really, the only thing that bothers me about flaming is that it's messy. It's a pain in the ass for people to shift around closed topics and random board discussions like this one when trying to find some information about pen spinning. I mean, this is a pen spinning board right? The propose is for people across the globe to share information about PEN SPINNING, not a personal grudge you have against some no-name over the internet. Yes, I disagree with having an OT and a SB, but I'd rather have the spam and random topics THERE than having them spread around the REAL information.
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Date: Fri, Mar 27 2009 16:04:05QUOTE (Bammer09メKT @ Mar 27 2009, 11:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>because they are good examples.
good examples of what???
you said there is flaming on PSUK
what does that have to do with UPSB????
we dont moderate PSUK... -
Date: Fri, Mar 27 2009 17:03:48QUOTE (Zombo @ Mar 27 2009, 11:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>good examples of what???
you said there is flaming on PSUK
what does that have to do with UPSB????
we dont moderate PSUK...
with 1 admin and 0 mods they flame only 40% of the time or even 10% -
Date: Fri, Mar 27 2009 17:23:22QUOTE (Bammer09メKT @ Mar 27 2009, 01:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>with 1 admin and 0 mods they flame only 40% of the time or even 10%
your point is?
our forum is very big compared to them.
a small forum doesn't need moderation.
when Pentix forum first started it was pretty much only tohlz moderating. when UPSB2 opened me and tohlz together were enough to moderate.
when you have a lot of people it's very easy to have a few flamers. Even though the ratio of flamers to members may be small, the impact of one flamer is very big compared to positive impact of others. Rotten apples are easy to notice.
It is natural that people tend to see the negatives easier than positives.
Flaming and spamming are always problem on big boards, never small ones. -
Date: Sat, Mar 28 2009 01:11:55QUOTE (Zombo @ Mar 27 2009, 01:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>your point is?
our forum is very big compared to them.
a small forum doesn't need moderation.
when Pentix forum first started it was pretty much only tohlz moderating. when UPSB2 opened me and tohlz together were enough to moderate.
when you have a lot of people it's very easy to have a few flamers. Even though the ratio of flamers to members may be small, the impact of one flamer is very big compared to positive impact of others. Rotten apples are easy to notice.
It is natural that people tend to see the negatives easier than positives.
Flaming and spamming are always problem on big boards, never small ones.
ok zombo
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Date: Sat, Mar 28 2009 03:12:03
What's PSUK?
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Date: Sat, Mar 28 2009 03:25:35QUOTE (Shadowserpant @ Mar 27 2009, 11:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>What's PSUK?
PenSpin United Kingdom
http://www.penspin.co.uk/portal.php
http://www.upsb.info/forum/index.php?showt...amp;#entry47888 <--didn't even know this thing existed until i did a search