UPSB v3
Battlezone / UPSB Mini Tournament
idk yet...
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Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 15:57:10
Wondering if we could do something similar to the WT in UPSB. Like with doubles, singles, teams, judges..maybe with rewards...
I dunnho if this has already been done but I would like all of you to pour in your opininons.
Name: UPSB Tournament / UPSB "mini" Tournament (Whichever sounds more appropriate.. You vote.)
Teams: I guess the same as in the WC cuz the judges might find it hard. 8 teams or w/e..
When the Tournament starts: Probably when ECS ends cuz that might hold people back from signing up. If ECS takes too long then i guess we might start early..idk..
Sign Ups: Either with own teams or just random sign ups and the judges could split the participants into fair categories. (I guess this too you can vote on)..
Judges: I dont know if we need to have them but It would make it better. Apply if you want. You do need to be experienced.. (more than most..i guess..idk)
Prizes: I think we can decide over this later.
Reasons: One of the main reasons to create this was cuz I as well as others want to kinda experience the WC
This is gonna be exactly like a WC. I dont know a lot on WC so if you know some more details that could be added , please lemme know asap.I'm thinking: not many pros allowed cuz we'll know who'll win.Everyone's allowed..!
I wanted to know 1 more thing: Has this been done before? I did check.. -
Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 15:59:38
Uh, ECS is still going on. Why would you pose this now?
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Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 16:04:41QUOTE (Xero @ Oct 29 2008, 09:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Uh, ECS is still going on. Why would you pose this now?
I think this would start towards the end of ECS and I thought ECS was only for american spinners..?
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Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 16:08:48
True... maybe you should wait until ECS is over... even then, why dont you let someone else set up and organize a tournament like this? Also, we already have an idea of who would win it... Maybe it's a bad idea.
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Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 16:11:02QUOTE (Mystic @ Oct 29 2008, 09:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>True... maybe you should wait until ECS is over... even then, why dont you let someone else set up and organize a tournament like this? Also, we already have an idea of who would win it... Maybe it's a bad idea.
Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot to mention:QUOTE (Outsmash - 1st Post)Sign Ups: Either with own teams or just random sign ups and the judges could split the participants into fair categories. (I guess this too you can vote on)..
I'm thinking: not many pros allowed cuz we'll know who'll win.
And I dont get it why you said:QUOTE ("Mystic")even then, why dont you let someone else set up and organize a tournament like this? -
Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 16:38:46QUOTESign Ups: Either with own teams or just random sign ups and the judges could split the participants into fair categories. (I guess this too you can vote on)..
I'm thinking: not many pros allowed cuz we'll know who'll win.
Limiting the number of pros doesnt exactly make it a upsb tournament... Im sure we'll have one eventually though to see who's going to WT.
I dont think you should be the one to organize it because one, it's not the right time... two (dont take this the wrong way) but I think you're not experienced enough to do so. -
Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 18:16:34
world tournament = 1vs1 ONLY
world cup = team vs team
stop confusing the two!!
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Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 18:36:47
I think if you were make a tournament you couldn't limit peoples entries saying that "Oh if you let pro's join then you already know who's gonna win" is just a smack in the face of all our spinners.
So if you were going to make one, don't limit the entries. -
Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 19:10:28QUOTE (sangara @ Oct 29 2008, 11:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I think if you were make a tournament you couldn't limit peoples entries saying that "Oh if you let pro's join then you already know who's gonna win" is just a smack in the face of all our spinners.
So if you were going to make one, don't limit the entries.
I second that. I also agree with mystic. It's not the right time and it's not right to limit people from participating. -
Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 19:40:48
What's the point of being good, IF people doesn't let you patricipate anywhere? IF do it, do it without limits...
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Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 22:53:12
I've wanted this for so looong...
But yeah I think everyone should be allowed to join, even if it determines who's gonna win
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Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 23:11:44
wt=world tournament=1 vs 1
I think it would be better to have 1 vs 1 mode rather than team, cuz we just had WC 2008, ECT, and Asia cup coming soon, it's all team. we need an individual game lol -
Date: Thu, Oct 30 2008 00:29:33
Someone wanted to do that "king of UPSB" competition...maybe you could do that except 1v1 format?
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Date: Thu, Oct 30 2008 00:53:26
Wats the point if you are gonna make a UPSB tournament that still has restrictions on those who can join? If you want to make a tournament just so people can have experience then just give it a different name and organize it yourself like ECS
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Date: Thu, Oct 30 2008 11:27:01
If there's a problem on sign ups, then let's not have any restrictions.. But if that is so then we need to get the judges to make a fair teams like ECS i guess. Or else some of the pros would make their own teams. I'm not goin against pros or anything, just that It shouldn't be unfair.
I agree with some of you that this is not the right time to do it but I'm guessing the sign ups would take sometime and even if they do end up fast, we can start it towards the end of ECS or whenever schedules get free for most.
Sorry for messing up on the WT... I guess i wanted to do it like WC where 4 in a team and 2 battle in doubles and 2 in singles. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Just because I'm not that experienced does not mean I can't do this...I mean I'm not gonna do much.. Judges judge..partcipants battle...All I'm doing is to organise it thats it.
There is going to be a UPSB tourney that selects people to go for the WT or w/e..idk but this one is different (for people who dont get it)...this is a tourney not for the sake of going anywhere..
Even though it's teams: I think 4 in a team where; two 1vs1 matches and one 2vs2 match. So that makes it singles and doubles..
This is dumb idea but if you guys want, we can make the winning team battle against each other...I dont think this is gonna happen (almost 100% sure...)
An I dont agree with some of you who say its "A bad idea".. It's just a tounament -
Date: Thu, Oct 30 2008 12:18:54
"We know who is going to win" is a very dangerous way for someone to think. It only shows a prepossession that can damage the way someone judges and, even worse, can damage the community. What will happen to JEB (it is just an example) if it hasn't its own tournament? We will see every year the same spinners unless someone 10 times (at least) better appears? We will never know about spinners like seven or raimo?
There must be a tournament (every year) where everyone can participate. And that tournament shouldn't be the ECS, except if we rename the Universal Pen Spinning Board to Unitedstates Pen Spinning Board. -
Date: Thu, Oct 30 2008 12:59:39
i honestly think someone more experienced should organise it if this will happen. No offense to Outsmash, but i do not respect you enough to take you seriously at all. In fact, i probably don't respect you at all since all you do is spam spam spam. When i saw this thread, i was just "meh...its not going to happen."
and who are you to host a UPSB tournament anyways? Theres upsb members here whose been around for like ~5 years. Why are you hosting a UPSB tournament when you joined like 4? month ago.
sorry if this sounds abit harsh.. but this is my opinion. -
Date: Thu, Oct 30 2008 13:21:57QUOTE (WhiteFang @ Oct 30 2008, 02:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i honestly think someone more experienced should organise it if this will happen. No offense to Outsmash, but i do not respect you enough to take you seriously at all. In fact, i probably don't respect you at all since all you do is spam spam spam. When i saw this thread, i was just "meh...its not going to happen."
and who are you to host a UPSB tournament anyways? Theres upsb members here whose been around for like ~5 years. Why are you hosting a UPSB tournament when you joined like 4? month ago.
sorry if this sounds abit harsh.. but this is my opinion.
i agree with, whitefang. -
Date: Thu, Oct 30 2008 15:03:51
I agree with Whitefang too but not fully..I am not really experienced and probably not only you but most in UPSB do not have much respect or any for me and also someone like Zombo i guess should host the tounament. I dont think hosting a tournament deserves "loads" of effort. It's a UPSB tournament that many would have thought of. It is not my fault that others more experienced than me have not posted their threads of wanting them to create a UPSB tournament. I wanted to join the ECS very badly but it limited itself to people living in the US. I wanted to create this tourney long time ago but since I knew i was really unexperienced (2 and 3/4 months ago) I decided to wait or at the most thought that someone would come up with this. Well you are more experienced than me..Why didn't you start it? (I do not mean to flame you in any way even if it sound so). I know I would have almost said the same thing as you if I were in your place cuz people like Zombo or someone waaaaay more experienced should start it. Thats cuz this is a UPSB thing that involves the whole board and not a small tourney that involves. Even if people thought of it, some of them I know told me that this will happen sooner or later.. Even the moderators could have started one if they wanted to. It doesn't take much. They do not have to compulsorily participate.. All it takes for them to do is create a thread for sign-ups and no one would go against their will even though the ECS was going on. People would still signup if Eriror or Zombo created the thread - Any mods.
And white fang:QUOTE (WhiteFang)sorry if this sounds abit harsh.. but this is my opinion.
It did not sound a "bit" harsh but really really harsh. Try to hold back your tongue if you can..
I'm starting to get sick of the way people flame at UPSB..I try to be hostile (If not for my mistakes and spam) but some people here cant stop sounding harsh.. I bet there is gonna be loads of more posts after this one flaming at me again...
If you guys wanna join or leave opininons or at the least constructive criticsm...go ahead..For the others..If you are really against the idea/ Me being the host or w/e...IDC..just dont join..
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Date: Thu, Oct 30 2008 17:17:48
Well, if you are worried about pros and what not, just add in catagories such as "Under 3 Months","3-5 Months" and etc.
Would make things slightly fairer.
And I kinda agree with Whitefang. Someone with higher standing should host this. If the people "just dont join", well, there wouldnt be many to start with wouldnt there?
Flames and whatnot are commonplace in UPSB. Its a forum filled with kids for the specific reason of discussing "Pen Spinning". So if you cant take it, should you be here at all? -
Date: Thu, Oct 30 2008 20:54:37QUOTE (WhiteFang @ Oct 30 2008, 05:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i honestly think someone more experienced should organise it if this will happen. No offense to Outsmash, but i do not respect you enough to take you seriously at all. In fact, i probably don't respect you at all since all you do is spam spam spam. When i saw this thread, i was just "meh...its not going to happen."
and who are you to host a UPSB tournament anyways? Theres upsb members here whose been around for like ~5 years. Why are you hosting a UPSB tournament when you joined like 4? month ago.
sorry if this sounds abit harsh.. but this is my opinion.
The truth hurts. But hey, gotta face the facts.
No need for a tourny right now, restrictions ruin the point of the tourny, and a nameless person hosting/organizing such a big tourny isn't a good idea. Best to just wait later to organize some upsb tournament later. And the world cup idea sounds terrible -- that's just like ECS. What's the point of having a 2nd ECS tourny? WT style is more like it. -
Date: Thu, Oct 30 2008 22:28:09QUOTE (Look Into the Sun @ Oct 30 2008, 10:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>What's the point of having a 2nd ECS tourny?
In this part he has right. Why this board is called universal and in its biggest tournament only the us people can join? There must be a tournament even bigger and greater than the ECS where everyone can join (or people with 6 months minimum experience, this is just an example).
But no. The one who will host this tournament cannot be someone like Outsmash. Only someone experienced and a bit "famous" is capable of doing that. -
Date: Thu, Oct 30 2008 22:32:40
I say we replace this with a tourney for the UPSB WT team.
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Date: Thu, Oct 30 2008 22:47:21
that's kinda not anything like what this is supposed to be
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Date: Fri, Oct 31 2008 10:57:10QUOTEWhy didn't you start it?
why didn't i start it? one, because i too, am not experienced way enough to host it. two, theres already a US tournament going on and Asia cup. And theres also going to be a major tournament as soon as the asia cup finishes and i got an email to help organizing it.QUOTEEven if people thought of it, some of them I know told me that this will happen sooner or later.. Even the moderators could have started one if they wanted to. It doesn't take much. They do not have to compulsorily participate.. All it takes for them to do is create a thread for sign-ups and no one would go against their will even though the ECS was going on. People would still signup if Eriror or Zombo created the thread - Any mods.
IIRC, i think zombo said there will be a tournament next year to pick WT09 team to be fair. (if it doesn't happen i'll be spam pming zombo so we will)
yes, people would sign up if eriror or zombo did create the thread. or any mods. you know why? its because they have respect from most of the UPSB members. And they have the respect because they earned it. you need to earn it too. and its not too late to start trying to earn it too. I'm not saying i have everyone's respect. but..yea..QUOTEIt did not sound a "bit" harsh but really really harsh. Try to hold back your tongue if you can..
I'm starting to get sick of the way people flame at UPSB..I try to be hostile (If not for my mistakes and spam) but some people here cant stop sounding harsh.. I bet there is gonna be loads of more posts after this one flaming at me again...
If you guys wanna join or leave opininons or at the least constructive criticsm...go ahead..For the others..If you are really against the idea/ Me being the host or w/e...IDC..just dont join..
i'm really sorry if i sounded harsh. But hey! its internet. But don't tell me to hold back my tongue because i won't. thats not because you don't have my respect. its because thats just me. If Zombo does something i REALLY don't agree with, i'll still go against him and try to persuade him to change his mind.
And i'm sorry? i believe i did not flame you at all. i honestly call it a criticism. not flaming. -
Date: Fri, Oct 31 2008 11:12:10
Okay fine..If I'm not experienced..I'm not, So lets atleast start a UPSB mini tournament (If i'm still inexperienced)..something below that.. I just want it to happen soon (ending of ECS)...
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Date: Sat, Nov 1 2008 01:56:08QUOTE (nateiskewl @ Oct 30 2008, 06:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I say we replace this with a tourney for the UPSB WT team.
Zombo with me?
wll that would be the point, yes... but I dont even know whats going on in WT, like how many spots we got so...
and also, consider the fact that if our best spinners dont need to go through prelims, they havea better shot during the WT, because they'll be more "fresh", in the sense that they can use their coolest tricks and combos during WT. if they use too many combos during the upsb tourney, they'll ran out of ideas... -
Date: Sat, Nov 1 2008 18:16:41QUOTE (Zombo @ Oct 31 2008, 06:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>wll that would be the point, yes... but I dont even know whats going on in WT, like how many spots we got so...
and also, consider the fact that if our best spinners dont need to go through prelims, they havea better shot during the WT, because they'll be more "fresh", in the sense that they can use their coolest tricks and combos during WT. if they use too many combos during the upsb tourney, they'll ran out of ideas...
You can keep the size of the tourny to a minimum to decrease the # of rounds. Or rate each spinner out of a certain number of points. 1st round, top 20 highest scored accepted. Second round, top 10, last round top 5....or something like that. -
Date: Sun, Nov 2 2008 07:02:11QUOTE (Zombo @ Nov 1 2008, 12:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>wll that would be the point, yes... but I dont even know whats going on in WT, like how many spots we got so...
and also, consider the fact that if our best spinners dont need to go through prelims, they havea better shot during the WT, because they'll be more "fresh", in the sense that they can use their coolest tricks and combos during WT. if they use too many combos during the upsb tourney, they'll ran out of ideas...
Good point, then we don't have to use the tournament to decide all the members of the team. Maybe if theres 4 places, we can logically agree that Eriror, Vic, TNC can take the 3 places. Then we can have a mini tournament to decide the 4th member.
Or you can do it by having 1 round and don't let the public see the video they make. instead, you just hand it in to the judge and the judges decide the top X and make them the team. Then since noone except 1~3 judges would have seen the video, they can use their video for round 1 of WT09 if they wish. But this will only work if people trust judges to be unbiased.
the other option is to have a voting by a public like the asia cup. But this will only measure the top X people with best reputation of being a good spinner not actually being a good spinner. like.. someone who used to be 'good' may be not as 'good' with all the other new spinners improving so much.
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Date: Sun, Nov 2 2008 07:28:38QUOTE (Zombo @ Oct 31 2008, 09:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>and also, consider the fact that if our best spinners dont need to go through prelims, they havea better shot during the WT, because they'll be more "fresh", in the sense that they can use their coolest tricks and combos during WT. if they use too many combos during the upsb tourney, they'll ran out of ideas...
not to mention that it would be really unfair to face someone who is virtually assured entry into the WT anyways...like say Mhig, who has the potential to go to the WT, hasta face Eriror, who we all know is going anyways...would be pointless and a waste of both their talents...QUOTE (WhiteFang @ Nov 2 2008, 02:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>we can logically agree that Eriror, Vic, TNC can take the 3 places. Then we can have a mini tournament to decide the 4th member.
Or you can do it by having 1 round and don't let the public see the video they make. instead, you just hand it in to the judge and the judges decide the top X and make them the team. Then since noone except 1~3 judges would have seen the video, they can use their video for round 1 of WT09 if they wish. But this will only work if people trust judges to be unbiased.
If the pre-chosen people were Eriror Vic and TNC....what better unbiased judges?
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Date: Sun, Nov 2 2008 10:59:15QUOTE (Zombo @ Nov 1 2008, 03:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>and also, consider the fact that if our best spinners dont need to go through prelims, they havea better shot during the WT, because they'll be more "fresh", in the sense that they can use their coolest tricks and combos during WT. if they use too many combos during the upsb tourney, they'll ran out of ideas...
Is this absolutely necessary? I mean eriror, vic etc are great pen spinners. They can come up with fresh and cool combos very easily. -
Date: Sun, Nov 2 2008 12:04:27QUOTE (spinforlife @ Nov 2 2008, 07:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Is this absolutely necessary? I mean eriror, vic etc are great pen spinners. They can come up with fresh and cool combos very easily.
i dont agree, its hard to learn like new combos and then writing it and improving the smoothness and everything
thats wat i go threw so i dont know but yea i dont really agree -
Date: Sun, Nov 2 2008 12:35:20QUOTE (kazeikan @ Nov 2 2008, 02:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i dont agree, its hard to learn like new combos and then writing it and improving the smoothness and everything
thats wat i go threw so i dont know but yea i dont really agree
I dont agree with you either. If someone like eriror, vic etc cannot make a new combo after the upsb tournament to show in the WT then what about the person that will go to the world tournament through the upsb tournament? If these great pen spinners are not able to come up with new tricks then that person will definetely be not able to do that and because he will not be as pro as the other he will lose for sure from the first round? That means the upsb tournament winner will go the WT with 95% possibilities to lose? -
Date: Mon, Nov 3 2008 01:54:56QUOTE (spinforlife @ Nov 2 2008, 07:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I dont agree with you either. If someone like eriror, vic etc cannot make a new combo after the upsb tournament to show in the WT then what about the person that will go to the world tournament through the upsb tournament? If these great pen spinners are not able to come up with new tricks then that person will definetely be not able to do that and because he will not be as pro as the other he will lose for sure from the first round? That means the upsb tournament winner will go the WT with 95% possibilities to lose?
lets be honest, some ppl are favourites and contenders to win the touramen,t while others are just happy being there, so if we decide that we preallocate spots to the best spinners, then the winner(s) of the UPSB tournamnet is really just like a wildcard entry into the main draw. its better to maximize the chance of ppl who are contending, then improve the chances of the underdogs.
same way Tennis tournaments work, with seeding and qualifications into the main draw, yes? -
Date: Mon, Nov 3 2008 01:57:26
i think the idea is that the smart, good psers will save their crazy insane stuff for the WT, and the others will use it all up during the prelims. So we get a team of spinners with no tricks left up their sleeve entered in the WT, and the good ones left in the dust...
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Date: Mon, Nov 3 2008 02:17:40QUOTE (spinforlife @ Oct 30 2008, 05:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>In this part he has right. Why this board is called universal and in its biggest tournament only the us people can join? There must be a tournament even bigger and greater than the ECS where everyone can join (or people with 6 months minimum experience, this is just an example).
But no. The one who will host this tournament cannot be someone like Outsmash. Only someone experienced and a bit "famous" is capable of doing that.
the only reason it's for us spinners only is because upsb is basically the us forum for pen spinning... we don't have a forum of our own since it's basically pointless. sorry off topic >.<
but i agree with shadowserpant that we should get those 'smart' spinners in however making it hard to judge whether they are that level of WT level... -
Date: Mon, Nov 3 2008 05:48:20QUOTE (Zombo @ Nov 3 2008, 03:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>lets be honest, some ppl are favourites and contenders to win the touramen,t while others are just happy being there, so if we decide that we preallocate spots to the best spinners, then the winner(s) of the UPSB tournamnet is really just like a wildcard entry into the main draw. its better to maximize the chance of ppl who are contending, then improve the chances of the underdogs.
same way Tennis tournaments work, with seeding and qualifications into the main draw, yes?
Yes, you are right. There are pen spinners who want the win and pen spinners who just like to be there even if they lose. But lets say there is a penspinner with equal level of pen spinning with the pen spinners that will go to the WT. If he goes to the WT winning the upsb tournament he will have (at the best case scenario) 80% chances to lose. Isn't that unfair? Be the same with someone else but he has more chances to win? And in order to surpass him and not having to win the upsb tournament you have to become 3 times (at least) better or he has to quit pen spinning? -
Date: Tue, Nov 4 2008 13:51:49
uhh thats not a problem with the system, thats a problem with HOW you allocate spots.
clearly if you give a free spot to a guy, but not to another guy who's same level, it's unfair.
therefore, you only give a free spot to guys who are ABOVE and BEYOND everybody else.
you dont have to win the upsb tournament to get in, depending on how many spots available, it could be top 2-4 -
Date: Tue, Nov 4 2008 13:58:05
so wait, are we considering doing this or wat?
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Date: Tue, Nov 4 2008 14:11:39QUOTE (Pen Ninja @ Nov 4 2008, 08:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>so wait, are we considering doing this or wat?
yeah, for the purpose of qualifying to WT.
but I havent seen crash in a long time tho -
Date: Tue, Nov 4 2008 14:22:49QUOTE (Zombo @ Nov 4 2008, 10:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>but I havent seen crash in a long time tho
Or the WT insert? *cough**cough* -
Date: Tue, Nov 4 2008 15:14:54
This thread is getting aimed at where I dont want it to..
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Date: Tue, Nov 4 2008 16:28:56
Well at least it's generally the same idea. It's just that winners are going to the WT. It's just a tournament but as an ADD ON it'll decide who's going to the WT. Of course that's if I'm understanding this right.
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Date: Tue, Nov 4 2008 19:12:03QUOTE (Outsmash @ Nov 4 2008, 10:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>This thread is getting aimed at where I dont want it to..
its becaues the title of your thread misleading,
by writing UPSB Tournament, you're saying you want to make an official UPSB tournament.
I think what u really wanted to do a beginner tournament, just like ECS. but why would we want to have a beginner tournamnet right after ECS ends? at least wait till next year, plus what if ECS makes another tournament next year, so... -
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 02:12:45QUOTE (Zombo @ Nov 4 2008, 11:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>its becaues the title of your thread misleading,
by writing UPSB Tournament, you're saying you want to make an official UPSB tournament.
I think what u really wanted to do a beginner tournament, just like ECS. but why would we want to have a beginner tournamnet right after ECS ends? at least wait till next year, plus what if ECS makes another tournament next year, so...
ECS leaves so many other people on the board out though... -
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 02:12:54QUOTE (Zombo @ Nov 5 2008, 01:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>its becaues the title of your thread misleading,
by writing UPSB Tournament, you're saying you want to make an official UPSB tournament.
I think what u really wanted to do a beginner tournament, just like ECS. but why would we want to have a beginner tournamnet right after ECS ends? at least wait till next year, plus what if ECS makes another tournament next year, so...
you dont get my point at all.. ECS is only for american spinners..
And I did change the restrictions before.. Pros are allowed..
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Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 02:15:05
that doesnt change anything
change it to "Outsmash Tournament"
that's the only accurate name. -
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 02:18:21
@Outsmash, I'm guessing this tournament is made especially for you, so you can join
amirite? -
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 02:20:25QUOTE (Missle_Z @ Nov 4 2008, 09:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>ECS leaves so many other people on the board out though...
simple, ask me to change up the rules next time? it's not like i will forever on restrict people to enter a tournament.. next tournament will probably have no restrictions on level or location. only reason the first 2 tournaments had restrictions was because it was based off of the participants level and the majority of the participants in the tournament (of those who signed up) -
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 08:52:24
@Outsmash If you can't wait for the next ECS tournament which (propably?) will not have restrictions about the location of the spinner make an other tournament with the name non-us upsb tournament where everyone can join except the us spinners or something like that and that's all.
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Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 10:02:57QUOTE (spinforlife @ Nov 5 2008, 07:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>@Outsmash If you can't wait for the next ECS tournament which (propably?) will not have restrictions about the location of the spinnerQUOTEsimple, ask me to change up the rules next time? it's not like i will forever on restrict people to enter a tournament.. next tournament will probably have no restrictions on level or location.
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Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 10:45:46QUOTE (CaliMartinio @ Nov 5 2008, 08:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>@Outsmash, I'm guessing this tournament is made especially for you, so you can join
amirite?
actually I was planning on not taking part. if I did want to take part I could create a smaller touney..QUOTE (spinforlife @ Nov 5 2008, 03:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>@Outsmash If you can't wait for the next ECS tournament which (propably?) will not have restrictions about the location of the spinner make an other tournament with the name non-us upsb tournament where everyone can join except the us spinners or something like that and that's all.
I didn't even plan to "not" include american spinners. The whole point was to bring in everyone..QUOTE (mhig @ Nov 5 2008, 08:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>simple, ask me to change up the rules next time? it's not like i will forever on restrict people to enter a tournament.. next tournament will probably have no restrictions on level or location. only reason the first 2 tournaments had restrictions was because it was based off of the participants level and the majority of the participants in the tournament (of those who signed up)
I never thought that was possible or going to happen since the first 2 was only for the US.
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Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 12:08:52
Outsmash, you should start one on gwsc.tk. So it's smaller and you can participate.
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Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 12:25:22QUOTE (SpinStar @ Nov 5 2008, 05:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Outsmash, you should start one on gwsc.tk. So it's smaller and you can participate.
It's too small and maybe I'll do it later. And again, It's not about me participating.
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Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 12:39:20
@outsmash You just can't bring anyone now. I said to make a tournament where the us spinners are not necessary to participate with the condition that this tournament is going to take place soon.
If this tournament is not going to take place soon then you can make it in a way everyone can participate. -
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 16:27:43QUOTE (spinforlife @ Nov 5 2008, 06:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>@outsmash You just can't bring anyone now. I said to make a tournament where the us spinners are not necessary to participate with the condition that this tournament is going to take place soon.
If this tournament is not going to take place soon then you can make it in a way everyone can participate.
I hope it will take place soon. And there are no conditions which are going to be placed. Pros and beginners allowed, All over the world - allowed etc..etc.