UPSB v3
Spammer's Bin / "Request flame protection"-thread
Everyone that doesn't want to get flamed, post here
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Date: Tue, Nov 4 2008 09:52:20
This thread is for everyone who wants protection from flame (apparently, you don't automatically get protected).
I request flame protection, now and from all possible future flaming that is directed at me.
If I choose to intentionally flame someone, I expect consequences, due to rule #2. I also expect consequences for people flaming me, or others.
Clarification: This is for the Spammer's Bin only, outside of the SB, no flaming is allowed ever for anyone.
Additional clarification: In OT moderators probably won't take flame seriously and do something about it anyway though, so expect to get flamed there anytime!
Protected users:
PenMaster (infinite)
Glamouraz (infinite)
Mr.Squekers (infinite)
Daffy
Nyuumestu
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Date: Tue, Nov 4 2008 09:55:17
I request flame protection, now and from all possible future flaming that is directed at me.
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Date: Tue, Nov 4 2008 11:43:14
God I wish this was in SB or OT.
lol. Sfsr, maybe you could update the first post to show who wants protection so us flamer can ignore those guys. -
Date: Tue, Nov 4 2008 12:30:38
:facepalm* wtf is this crap? Flame-protection...you shouldn't need it, if people step out of line, moderators will do their job. No need to REQUEST it.
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Date: Tue, Nov 4 2008 12:48:19
I believe that what Zombo meant by his post, was that Members should tell Mods because a mod can't tell when someone is being offended or not (for fairly light flaming). If the flaming is bad enough, the mods will do something about it.
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Date: Tue, Nov 4 2008 12:55:02QUOTE (iMatt @ Nov 4 2008, 11:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>:facepalm* wtf is this crap? Flame-protection...you shouldn't need it, if people step out of line, moderators will do their job. No need to REQUEST it.
"even if ur not flamed right now, you can say "give me protection on future flames about me" and thats fine." the whole flame protection crap was zombo's idea. -
Date: Tue, Nov 4 2008 13:02:50
"it's silly" (from Monty Python)
does it work for OT and SB? -
Date: Tue, Nov 4 2008 13:36:13
Moved to SB and pinned.
Like I said, this is for SB only. Outside of SB, no flaming is ever allowed.
Some people enjoy being flamed (ppl like AoD) or don't think of it seriously, but some people really don't like it, so this thread is about telling others to seriously not flame them in SB. -
Date: Tue, Nov 4 2008 13:40:26
I request flame protection, now and from all possible future flaming that is directed at me.
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Date: Tue, Nov 4 2008 14:13:44
Now not only do mods have to moderate much more carefully the spammer's bin (i.e. the shithole of UPSB). They have to check this list every time somebody is flamed, nice. If you don't like being flamed, don't go into the spammer's bin. This is a Pen Spinning board and it's not going to cripple your ability to spin if you don't enter the spammer's bin. It's a goddamn privilege, not a right.
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Date: Tue, Nov 4 2008 14:27:02
I agree with Tim.
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Date: Tue, Nov 4 2008 15:31:01
also i want to add
if you want to flame someone in SB, then you obviously cant have protection from flaming in SB. -
Date: Tue, Nov 4 2008 17:02:08QUOTE (Tim @ Nov 4 2008, 03:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Now not only do mods have to moderate much more carefully the spammer's bin (i.e. the shithole of UPSB). They have to check this list every time somebody is flamed, nice. If you don't like being flamed, don't go into the spammer's bin. This is a Pen Spinning board and it's not going to cripple your ability to spin if you don't enter the spammer's bin. It's a goddamn privilege, not a right.
OR they could just forbid flaming all over the board. No need to keep after it very closely in SB, but direct flaming of a member should be deleted, and warnings should be given if needed. It doesn't matter where on the board it happens, it's still insulting another person.
I don't go into the SB (well, occasionally, but that's just now) and yet I see unattended flame (in OT). And I don't care about being flamed, really. Neither do I care about going into the SB all too much, not when it has become a place for flaming. I can't tell how much flaming there is here though, I barely read anything.
The whole thing I'm mad about really is zumbo brutally ignoring my report on flaming in Head Shotz, and not any other mods caring either 'till I started bitching. Bitching baaaadly.
Zombo, does flame in SB towards a person on the list give warnings, or are the posts just going to get deleted?
also, this list might only apply to the spammers bin, but it still applies to all the members of this board. -
Date: Tue, Nov 4 2008 17:06:00
Don't tell me ups/b/ is going to be moderated too, or mebeam, or vent
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Date: Tue, Nov 4 2008 17:08:07
It's the spammers bin.. not a flaming area.
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Date: Tue, Nov 4 2008 17:10:58QUOTE (Sfsr @ Nov 4 2008, 06:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>OR they could just forbid flaming all over the board. No need to keep after it very closely in SB, but direct flaming of a member should be deleted, and warnings should be given if needed. It doesn't matter where on the board it happens, it's still insulting another person.
I don't go into the SB (well, occasionally, but that's just now) and yet I see unattended flame (in OT). And I don't care about being flamed, really. Neither do I care about going into the SB all too much, not when it has become a place for flaming. I can't tell how much flaming there is here though, I barely read anything.
The whole thing I'm mad about really is zumbo brutally ignoring my report on flaming in Head Shotz, and not any other mods caring either 'till I started bitching. Bitching baaaadly.
Zombo, does flame in SB towards a person on the list give warnings, or are the posts just going to get deleted?
also, this list might only apply to the spammers bin, but it still applies to all the members of this board.
i don't think zombo is ognoring your reports, but it's just that if that person doesn't mind being flamed there is no need for anything to be done
that's the whole point of "request flame protection" (i think you misunderstood it, it's not protection, it is more of a report when YOU are being flamed and want to report members who are flaming YOU) -
Date: Tue, Nov 4 2008 17:22:32
He just "ignored" one report (the only one I made), told me the person being flamed didn't mind (turned out he did mind), and that I shouldn't care about flame not directed at me (I think that was it anyway, I don't have the PM anymore). Why would flame only matter if the person cares? It still adds to the negative attitude all around.
If I get permission from Scott/he doesn't care, can I flame him all across the forum? Since OT is supposed to be moderated in the same way as the rest of the forum, and flame there wasn't deleted since the person being flamed "didn't care". -
Date: Tue, Nov 4 2008 17:25:22
OT isn't really like the rest of the board. most of the flames that started in "show of your combos", "collabs", "pen modifications" threads ended up with the warning
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Date: Tue, Nov 4 2008 17:30:09
Might be, but zumbo has said that OT is supposed to be moderated in the same way as the rest of the board when it comes to flaming.
Be rational, be consequent/consistent, and be unbiased in keeping after the rules. That's all I ask for. Maybe for once and for all state clearer what is allowed, where, and what the consequences will be. -
Date: Tue, Nov 4 2008 18:14:02QUOTE (Loanshark @ Nov 4 2008, 09:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Don't tell me ups/b/ is going to be moderated too, or mebeam, or vent
No one can touch vent, nate and I won't allow it. Otherwise @this thread
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Date: Tue, Nov 4 2008 18:32:28
ok u got me sfsr, i made a mistake on that report
when i replied to your report, i thought it was just joking (not considered flaming, just playful jokes) but aftegr that it started getting bigger so i intervened.
that's it, can we move on now?
you shouldn't generalize the moderating policy based on one report you made.QUOTEIf I get permission from Scott/he doesn't care, can I flame him all across the forum?
I assume u mean the OT section in general.
no, either your thread will be moved in SB or u'll be asked to stop., maybe ull get a warning depending how bad it is.
anyway, I've assigned TurbulentTurtle to moderate the non-PS related section -
Date: Tue, Nov 4 2008 18:34:59
I thought flaming wasn't cared for if the person flamed wasn't offended?
THIS is what I mean by consequent/consistent and unbiased. Come on. -
Date: Tue, Nov 4 2008 18:39:43QUOTE (Sfsr @ Nov 4 2008, 01:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I thought flaming wasn't cared for if the person flamed wasn't offended?
THIS is what I mean by consequent/consistent and unbiased. Come on.
moderators are not perfect OK... there are some things we can judge as not flaming, but the person who's attacked is offended, then obviously we have to rectify the situation.
I made a mistake on the report you sent, good? now lets move on.
this is the first time someone has requested clear policies on OT, it was only loosely moderated before. The reason it was loosely moderated is because OT is not important. It's not the focus of the board. But if you want us to spend more time on the non-PS related sections, it will affect the time we can spend moderating the sections that MATTER, the PS sections.
There's a reason why the non-PS sections is at the bottom of the index page, and that SB is not viewable by guest, and its posts not listed in "View new posts"
so lets make it clear.
OT -> moderation for flaming, SD -> total moderation (spam, etc.), SB -> moderation for protected users, /b/ -> nothing -
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 00:15:26
*Sigh* i really dont like this
you claim that making a thread in SB is like, going behind their back or something, but what exactly is there to do now?
the answer is simply to go cuss them out to every person you know
well w/e
can you flame someone in your blog?
also, what exactly counts as flaming?
if i made a rant thread saying "I thought ______ showed your _______ in regards to ______, and thus i do not like you" am i flaming?
is this a flame thread? http://www.upsb.info/forum/index.php?showt...t=0&start=0
honestly i dont like this entire concept
i mean.... i always felt that the SB was a place excepted from the rules of UPSB....
i feels like you're trying to create some kind of Utopian board or something and that doesnt really work
if you take away our right to flame people in the spammers bin, then.... we cant flame people anywhere.... wtf? We can't even get free speech in a section of the board separated for un-moderated use?
i mean i can understand this:
jaybles makes this thread
http://www.upsb.info/forum/index.php?showtopic=10598
glamouraz says he doesnt want it there
thread goes bye bye
but now jaybles has no right to make that thread simply because glamouraz posted here?
i feel like a little kid in kindergarten or something
the SB was like the "i'll meet you afterschool when the teacher's not looking"
should this entire thread be deleted if guitrum asks for immunity? http://www.upsb.info/forum/index.php?showt...=7289&st=80
i mean i just wrote a whole huge-ass rant on people i like and hate and yeah i flamed them and i planned on putting it in the spammers bin so that i could get it off my chest and stop hating them internally everyday.... but i guess i cant do that anymore
/end rant
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Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 00:17:26QUOTE (Zombo @ Nov 4 2008, 05:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Moved to SB and pinned.
Outside of SB, no flaming is ever allowed.
I love you. -
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 03:23:14
Whoa I agree with Shadowserpant.
Seriously, you guys know that the SB is a place where you can get hurt and get exposed to things that might be a threat to your "Oh so perfect lives" so why would you even enter here if you cant handle it?
I mean, like what Shadowserpant said, this is like our "After School" place and why should its purpose be changed?
Its reality and not everything is gonna be flowers and creampuffs and cottoncandy.
Its not like the whole board is not moderated.
So suck it up. -
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 03:40:27
*sigh* I love how there are actually named 'flamers' in UPSB, pretty sad.
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Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 03:42:24
UPS/B/ is the last safe place.
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Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 03:46:31
I request flame protection, now and from all possible future flaming that is directed at me.
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Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 04:52:50
I wish to be flamed at all times and for all reasons, relevant or not
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Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 04:54:07
I do fully encourage flaming of myself as well.
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Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 06:04:11
omg.. Sfsr is so cool that he made two thread in SB that got pinned
shadow, have you even read this thread? your still allow to flame people if they're not protected. You were never allow to flame people if they reported it to be closed. This is just.. more official so theres a list of people who can't be flamed. -
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 06:54:04
i'm aware of that whitefang, it doesn't change my arguement
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Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 07:42:14
This still seems like a stupid idea. If someone flames you, fucking report them, and if moderators don't do something about it then,you can start bitching about it. I don't think moderators think that people are scared of the report button, so if you don't report the 'flamer' there is a good chance they are going to interpret it as mucking around or you not caring.
In sfsr's case, Zombo already apologized for his misunderstanding.
Of course this only applies to non-penspinning sections of the board.
Posting in the spammer's bin and not wanting to be flamed is like being a hardcore christian without wanting to believe in jesus. Either christians will have to change their religion just for you, or you can not become a christian. -
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 10:07:18
instead of reporting every thread that flames you, you can just post here and hope that people will follow it.
my flame protection only lasts another day or so
I have one last question. Will reports of flame in SB grant warnings? Otherwise I feel like flaming the shit out of all the assholes that do think flaming belongs here. yeah, you are all stupid fucks. -
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 10:08:20
Does this apply to shoutbox as well?
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Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 10:09:34
tsk I can't flame anymore
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Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 13:02:03
duration of flame protection
PEACE
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Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 14:51:11QUOTE (Tim @ Nov 5 2008, 02:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Posting in the spammer's bin and not wanting to be flamed is like being a hardcore christian without wanting to believe in jesus. Either christians will have to change their religion just for you, or you can not become a christian.
no,
I think the point was that, you can request protection, and not worry about being talked behind the back, so you DON'T have to check the SB to see if ppl are talking about you.
"Will reports of flame in SB grant warnings?"
??? what's the point of allowing flaming if u get warned then it would be just lik the rest of the board -
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 20:10:00QUOTE (Tim @ Nov 5 2008, 02:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>This still seems like a stupid idea. If someone flames you, fucking report them, and if moderators don't do something about it then,you can start bitching about it. I don't think moderators think that people are scared of the report button, so if you don't report the 'flamer' there is a good chance they are going to interpret it as mucking around or you not caring.
The problem is that when you report someone, the flamer gets a pat on the back and is told not to do it again. There is little incentive for them to actually stop flaming. I'm not talking about just Spammer's Bin either.
But with flaming, there is hypocrisy since people think it is OK to flame in certain situations (e.g. Firestorm in the shout box) but not in others (e.g. flames against respected regular members, perhaps). The definition of flaming, as with the rest of the rules, should beQUOTE (Sfsr @ Nov 4 2008, 01:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>consistent
Ding! Ding! Ding! -
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 21:49:02QUOTEThe problem is that when you report someone, the flamer gets a pat on the back and is told not to do it again. There is little incentive for them to actually stop flaming. I'm not talking about just Spammer's Bin either.
that's not really true... it depends on the severity of the reported infraction. -
Date: Thu, Nov 6 2008 07:41:50
Maybe penalties should be intensified then. And 2 or 3 day bans should be given out a little more often?
EDIT: just realized that 'lifted' gives that sentence a completely new meaning -
Date: Thu, Nov 6 2008 21:59:02QUOTE (Tialys @ Nov 5 2008, 09:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>But with flaming, there is hypocrisy since people think it is OK to flame in certain situations (e.g. Firestorm in the shout box) but not in others (e.g. flames against respected regular members, perhaps). The definition of flaming, as with the rest of the rules, should beQUOTE (Sfsr @ Nov 4 2008, 07:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>consistent
Ding! Ding! Ding!
Listen to this guy here. -
Date: Fri, Nov 7 2008 01:24:44
what the fuck is this shit? FLAME PROTECTION? how fucken retarded...... if you get flamed you flame back. you flame the bastard till he cant fucken stand. thats what you do, you dont ask for flame Protection. its like the pigs, id rather depend on my hand guns than the pigs! Thats just my opinion.
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Date: Fri, Nov 7 2008 01:34:18QUOTE (AoD1 @ Nov 6 2008, 09:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>what the fuck is this shit? FLAME PROTECTION? how fucken retarded...... if you get flamed you flame back. you flame the bastard till he cant fucken stand. thats what you do, you dont ask for flame Protection. its like the pigs, id rather depend on my hand guns than the pigs! Thats just my opinion.
Wow...I really wanted to add myself to the list just to support Sfsr's cause...but after seeing AoD's signature i realize that I don't want to be seen as a hypocrite after writing myself down for this... -
Date: Fri, Nov 7 2008 01:44:14
aww now i have to speed up my flaming phtt.... before da new ppls find the "Flame Protection" thread and sign up no more taking my sweet time to mess with peoples minds... and some harsh advice on crap modifications... 
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Date: Fri, Nov 7 2008 01:53:46
Guys wtf. Shut up. Don't flame or fight. Make love.
And Sfsr/Tialys are way beyond right. (Example: LotusWing - you said one word against her - you had 10 people on you cussing at you.) -
Date: Fri, Nov 7 2008 01:57:30
how is that an example of anything...
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Date: Fri, Nov 7 2008 02:00:08
I only flame really crappy mods O.o and i dun really care my first day on this forum i got flamed by 15 people from asking a stupid question until K4S stopped it so i dun f***in care, people dont really know me and as far as im concerned go ahead and flame me... see what that can do NOTHING!
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Date: Fri, Nov 7 2008 03:57:51QUOTE (Shadowserpant @ Nov 6 2008, 05:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>how is that an example of anything...
it's an example of what tialys said; people think it's okay to flame newcomers but not respected people, such as LotusWing -
Date: Fri, Nov 7 2008 03:58:55
people become respected because they don't do stupid things
people become flamed because they do stupid things -
Date: Fri, Nov 7 2008 04:07:41
Some people are just stupid. That doesn't mean they should be flamed because they aren't as intelligent and educated as you.
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Date: Fri, Nov 7 2008 04:13:52
i didn't say they were stupid, i said they did stupid things, something that is completely preventable, or easy to fix.
i like how i never once said i was smart, yet you feel the need to target me in that aspect -
Date: Fri, Nov 7 2008 22:28:16
Request permission to flame Shoeman6.
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Date: Fri, Nov 7 2008 22:31:34QUOTE (Shadowserpant @ Nov 6 2008, 11:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i didn't say they were stupid, i said they did stupid things, something that is completely preventable, or easy to fix.
i like how i never once said i was smart, yet you feel the need to target me in that aspect
Stupid people do stupid things. They seem easy to fix and preventable to you because you aren't stupid.
And because you are saying that you are capable of judging what a stupid action is you are implying you are intelligent and not stupid. -
Date: Fri, Nov 7 2008 22:39:58QUOTE (Tialys @ Nov 5 2008, 09:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>But with flaming, there is hypocrisy since people think it is OK to flame in certain situations (e.g. Firestorm in the shout box) but not in others (e.g. flames against respected regular members, perhaps). The definition of flaming, as with the rest of the rules, should be
Consistant
Ding! Ding! Ding!
Sorry, the one time I tried to be consistant, people didn't agree. -
Date: Fri, Nov 7 2008 23:09:08QUOTE (Sidewinder @ Nov 7 2008, 11:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Request permission to flame Shoeman6.
Permission granted!
It's my thread, I make the rules.
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Date: Fri, Nov 7 2008 23:57:50QUOTE (shoeman6 @ Nov 7 2008, 02:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Stupid people do stupid things. They seem easy to fix and preventable to you because you aren't stupid.
And because you are saying that you are capable of judging what a stupid action is you are implying you are intelligent and not stupid.
The only thing I'm implying is that I have the ability to learn. I'm sorry if you don't.
And I'm not sure what you're arguing anymore, are you saying you're stupid and because you're stupid you can't help but do stupid things and I should ignore it? -
Date: Sat, Nov 8 2008 01:19:05QUOTE (Shadowserpant @ Nov 7 2008, 07:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The only thing I'm implying is that I have the ability to learn. I'm sorry if you don't.
And I'm not sure what you're arguing anymore, are you saying you're stupid and because you're stupid I you can't help but do stupid things and I should ignore it?
Pretty much. -
Date: Sun, Nov 9 2008 05:40:04
uhh luke broke the rule of non-retaliation so he's off the list
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Date: Sun, Nov 9 2008 05:44:44
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Date: Sun, Nov 9 2008 08:48:03
K.I.S.S
Keep It (fucking) Simple, Stupid.
Do you really need a list of people you can't flame in the Spammer's Bin?
This seems like a thing which will never make sense to me. -
Date: Sun, Nov 9 2008 14:33:24
its the only compromise between non flaming and flaming
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Date: Sun, Nov 9 2008 16:31:45
We still have the "flaming brings consequences wherever on the forum it occurs". I still have no idea why no one else notices this alternative.
Tim, keeping it simple would be having the same rules all over the forum. I prefer that, but apparently people can't live with it, so we need this instead. My original idea was that so many would write in their names here so that we would have to change the rules to count all over the forum, but it turned out not so many even noticed it -
Date: Sun, Nov 9 2008 17:46:39
the simplest solution is to remove Spammer's Bin, because if same rules are applied everywhere, the SB is meaningless.
furthermore OT would be removed and only serious D would exist, cuz its the only non-PS related section who's treated equally as the rest of the forum -
Date: Sun, Nov 9 2008 18:21:22QUOTE (Zombo @ Nov 9 2008, 09:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>the simplest solution is to remove Spammer's Bin, because if same rules are applied everywhere, the SB is meaningless.
which would increase upsb's level of spinning tenfold! -
Date: Sun, Nov 9 2008 18:39:16QUOTE (Zombo @ Nov 9 2008, 09:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>the simplest solution is to remove Spammer's Bin, because if same rules are applied everywhere, the SB is meaningless.
I agree.
I see the Spammer's Bin as a useless place where members exchange profane/abusive/sexually oriented content. It really gives a bad impression on people from other boards.
I think that the Spammer's Bin should be removed, but the Serious Discussion can remain. -
Date: Sun, Nov 9 2008 19:32:46
tons of other boards have some type of spammers bin
it's just an outlet for some members... -
Date: Sun, Nov 9 2008 19:35:59QUOTE (Zombo @ Nov 9 2008, 06:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>the simplest solution is to remove Spammer's Bin, because if same rules are applied everywhere, the SB is meaningless.
furthermore OT would be removed and only serious D would exist, cuz its the only non-PS related section who's treated equally as the rest of the forum
what about spam, content not suitable for all members? (Jesus for example, hahaha. Since that was where the discussion about creating SB started, as far as I can remember?)
No flaming isn't the only existing rule, you know. -
Date: Sun, Nov 9 2008 20:07:53QUOTE (Sfsr @ Nov 9 2008, 02:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>what about spam, content not suitable for all members? (Jesus for example, hahaha. Since that was where the discussion about creating SB started, as far as I can remember?)
No flaming isn't the only existing rule, you know.
well exactly, that was my point.
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Date: Sun, Nov 9 2008 21:06:20
oooh, now I get you.
I'm being hypocritical and contradicting myself, haha. Anyway, I think flaming is a rule that should apply to the whole board, seeing how that is insulting someone. No one really suffers from spammy posts or hate not directed at you. -
Date: Sun, Nov 9 2008 21:08:28
Are you really considering removing the spammers bin?
Then Minche won't have a place to live D: think of minche! -
Date: Sun, Nov 9 2008 21:23:22QUOTE (Sfsr @ Nov 9 2008, 04:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Anyway, I think flaming is a rule that should apply to the whole board, seeing how that is insulting someone. No one really suffers from spammy posts or hate not directed at you.
but at the same time, "no one really suffers from flaming EXCEPT the flamed person", so whats the problem if the flamed person doesnt care?
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Date: Sun, Nov 9 2008 21:26:42
Then there wouldn't be a problem, everything will be fine and dandy.
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Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 01:17:35
Why not just put this idea to vote? Since those who want flaming protection and those who are against it both have the right to say no, just put this to public vote. And no 1337 zumbo votes plz.
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Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 01:28:59
well i think these people have a right to flame protection, since that was the way it was anyways, i just discourage people to use it
but anyways now they want to get rid of off topic... -
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 03:25:55QUOTE (NoRice4U @ Nov 10 2008, 05:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Are you really considering removing the spammers bin? Then Minche won't have a place to live D: think of minche!
Thats why we have this here.QUOTE (Loanshark @ Nov 10 2008, 05:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Then there wouldn't be a problem, everything will be fine and dandy.
Thats why we have this here. -
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 10:00:31QUOTE (FrozenIce @ Nov 9 2008, 06:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I agree.
I see the Spammer's Bin as a useless place where members exchange profane/abusive/sexually oriented content. It really gives a bad impression on people from other boards.
People can't see the spammer's bin until they are signed up and once they are signed up it carries a warning!
It's the new 'nanny-state' spreading to every corner of the world, even UPSB!
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Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 11:34:58
What, essentially is the Spammer's Bin?
The Spammers Bin was made as a minefield. It's a dangerous place which one will usually NOT have to enter. It's where potentially and obviously offensive material can be posted ALMOST without restrictions (warez, porn, and other such things can still not be posted).
Why was it made?
It was made so that people who didn't want to be offended (kensai brought it up, but it was a true point, seeing as things about religion, etc were being posted) didn't have to be when they were looking through threads in the Off-Topic section.
Who was it made for?
It was made for a select few people who didn't like the Off-Topic's rules could come in here and do whatever the fuck they want and NOT disturb the rest of the board.
What can I do to prevent being offended in the Spammer's Bin?
If you don't want to get hit by a mine, STAY OUT OF THE FUCKING MINEFIELD.
What Zombo is saying is true, if you want it to be the same as the rest of the board, there is not 1 point in keeping it.
And by simple, I meant we could keep it simple by not having a list.
You're expecting other people to fix a problem which you could easily fix yourself, by staying out of the spammer's bin. -
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 17:36:01
Haha! That is just retarded Tim.
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Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 17:48:15
If the goal is to keep the same rules across the entire board, I suppose that the spammer's bin could be removed (this is just an idea) but the Off-Topic section should probably remain so people can still post things not pertaining to PSingthat they want to share with the community, and then ups/b/ could be left un-moderated I guess.
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Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 17:50:48QUOTE (Zombo @ Nov 9 2008, 06:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>the simplest solution is to remove Spammer's Bin, because if same rules are applied everywhere, the SB is meaningless.
furthermore OT would be removed and only serious D would exist, cuz its the only non-PS related section who's treated equally as the rest of the forum
O_o O_o O_o O_o O_o O_oQUOTE (NoRice4U @ Nov 9 2008, 10:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Are you really considering removing the spammers bin? Then Minche won't have a place to live D: think of minche!
(he cant remove IRC
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i only really post in SB and OT because i've said all i had to say about topics i wanted to discuss (no point repeating myself) and because i kinda like some members on this board and they are all in SB or IRC =/
i really see no point in removing SB, there must be some exhaust vent in this board (it's betetr to bring the spam and flames where they belong =P)
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Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 18:54:48
I see no need to remove the SB. I've been talking about consistency in the rules, but I'm contradicting myself there actually. I only want consistency in one rule; #2. #2 applies to OT, why not SB? The other rules don't really apply to OT either, and so they don't apply to SB either.
But SB was created not for flaming, but for content not suitable for all members/really un-serious spamming. Why not just keep it the way it was intended? unserious business, but no flaming. -
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 19:00:30
@Â minche: no exhaust vent is needed actually. If people would act this way on the forum, they would have to change to get to remain. A lot of the people here don't even contribute to the meaning of the board, penspinning, so there's no use for them really. It's better to not bring spam and flame out at all, or keep it to other places (forums without meaning, closed rooms (IM, PM, etc)).
about this thread being in SB, I don't really understand it either. I made it in General but it was moved.
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Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 19:07:05QUOTE (Sfsr @ Nov 10 2008, 01:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I see no need to remove the SB. I've been talking about consistency in the rules, but I'm contradicting myself there actually. I only want consistency in one rule; #2. #2 applies to OT, why not SB? The other rules don't really apply to OT either, and so they don't apply to SB either.
But SB was created not for flaming, but for content not suitable for all members/really un-serious spamming. Why not just keep it the way it was intended? unserious business, but no flaming.
why only #2? seems like a pretty arbitrary and convienent decision. If you want consistency, you need consistency for everything. If you start making exceptions, we need to discuss why an exception is made for every single exception.
And this means putting it to a vote. -
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 19:11:21
An expectation for #2 has been put on OT.
edit: and #7-10 ofc.... -
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 19:18:58QUOTE (Sfsr @ Nov 10 2008, 02:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>An expectation for #2 has been put on OT.
edit: and #7-10 ofc....
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Date: Tue, Nov 11 2008 00:14:01QUOTE (Sfsr @ Nov 10 2008, 10:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>#2 applies to OT, why not SB? The other rules don't really apply to OT either, and so they don't apply to SB either.
Since when do other rules not apply to off topic? I was pretty sure off topic had the same rules as the rest of the board, and SB was exempt from most of the rules... right? -
Date: Tue, Nov 11 2008 09:37:53
Nope.
1, 3-5 and 11 don't really apply. -
Date: Thu, Nov 13 2008 01:00:47
still talking about this bull shit i see
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Date: Thu, Nov 13 2008 04:18:08
i wish flame protection was gone and f**k you if u want the spammers bin gone when all other thing cease to intrest meh where else would i go.
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Date: Thu, Nov 13 2008 08:38:42
You would probably... go get a life?
Really though, the only one who has mentioned removing the spammer's bin is Zombo, and that's not cause he wants it removed but to counter my arguments. Read what we write, and most importantly stop being stupid and try reading between the lines instead. -
Date: Fri, Nov 14 2008 15:56:03QUOTE (Sfsr @ Nov 13 2008, 12:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>You would probably... go get a life?
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Date: Fri, Nov 14 2008 20:13:14QUOTE (Zombo @ Nov 10 2008, 02:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>why only #2? seems like a pretty arbitrary and convienent decision. If you want consistency, you need consistency for everything. If you start making exceptions, we need to discuss why an exception is made for every single exception.
And this means putting it to a vote.
Sfsr was not expressing himself clearly. He wants consistency across the forum and across moderators with regards to flaming, which is rule #2. Rules like #1, 3, 4, 5, etc. don't apply to the Spammer's Bin. If I remember correctly, Spammer's Bin was created in light of anti-religious threads in the off-topic section. Then things were respectful for a while, but if flaming is firing up again and people are bothered by it, then maybe it's time to re-think the function of the Bin. The Bin is a good for separating junk (spam) threads from legitimate off-topic ones, but by allowing flaming in Spammer's Bin, you are actually encouraging it. I see no need to remove the Spammer's Bin, but flaming is something that should be treated uniformly over the forum, in my opinion and others'. -
Date: Fri, Nov 14 2008 20:19:28
saying you want consistency, but only for rule #2, is a contradiction in itself.
if you want to be truly consistent, it means you respect all rules at all times. by saying you want only consistency in rule #2 means you are making an exception, a special case only for rule #2. in which case, the whole consistency argument falls apart since you'd have to reconsider all rules. -
Date: Mon, Nov 17 2008 11:15:59
Does this apply to shoutbox as well?
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Date: Mon, Nov 17 2008 11:24:16
Pretty sure that shoutbox is (mostly) supposed to be moderated like the rest of the board, just a little more lenient. Mods can't always be in the shoutbox though.
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Date: Mon, Nov 17 2008 14:15:15QUOTE (Glamouraz @ Nov 17 2008, 06:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Does this apply to shoutbox as well?
no
shoutbox is 100% moderated -
Date: Mon, Nov 17 2008 20:40:23QUOTE (Zombo @ Nov 17 2008, 06:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>no
shoutbox is 100% moderated
thats funny! iv met so many ass hole on the shoutbox! -
Date: Sat, Nov 22 2008 23:16:49
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Date: Mon, Dec 29 2008 04:37:55QUOTE (AoD1 @ Nov 18 2008, 04:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>thats funny! iv met so many ass hole on the shoutbox!
yeah I even got banned from the shoutbox a lot of times lol most were because of flaming -
Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 23:43:58
*raises hand*
Also requests flame protection -
Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 23:46:01
ok
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Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 23:55:13
i would like some flame protection! is it like flame condoms? lol jkjk
but really. i would like flame protection *cough* condoms *cough* -
Date: Thu, Feb 12 2009 05:18:44
I no longer want/need flame protection. flamers ftw.
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Date: Thu, Feb 12 2009 20:17:53QUOTE (Nyuumetsu @ Feb 12 2009, 12:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Please protect me from flame protection. After all, I'm just a lonely little nub
protecting you from flame protection means not giving it to you, lol... -
Date: Tue, Mar 17 2009 14:21:37
I request flame protection, now and from all possible future flaming that is directed at me. -
Date: Thu, Mar 19 2009 02:41:32QUOTE (PenMaster @ Mar 17 2009, 07:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I request flame protection, now and from all possible future flaming that is directed at me.
lol right after u make that fuck you clyde thread
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Date: Thu, Mar 19 2009 11:46:17QUOTE (PenMaster @ Mar 17 2009, 10:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I request flame protection, now and from all possible future flaming that is directed at me.
ok
but you can't flame yourself. -
Date: Wed, May 13 2009 13:59:22
I request flame protection, now and from all possible future flaming that is directed at me.
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Date: Fri, May 15 2009 06:58:26
lmao
is this thing even working -
Date: Tue, May 26 2009 07:16:36
Fuck you
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Date: Wed, Jun 10 2009 06:08:55
I request flame protection, now and from all possible future flaming that is directed at me.
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Date: Sun, Nov 22 2009 20:26:38
I request flame protection, now and from all possible future flaming that is directed at me.
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Date: Tue, Nov 24 2009 14:26:11
clearly shows that it doesnt work.
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Date: Tue, Nov 24 2009 14:28:00
Just wait. it does. It's just not efficient.
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Date: Wed, Nov 25 2009 11:08:56
wind double posted O_o
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Date: Wed, Nov 25 2009 12:06:47
He didn't. The post between them got deleted.
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Date: Wed, Nov 25 2009 21:00:36
lol it worked.
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Date: Thu, Nov 26 2009 09:56:46QUOTE (Glamouraz @ Nov 25 2009, 08:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>He didn't. The post between them got deleted.
oh. -
Date: Fri, Dec 25 2009 04:58:58
me i want protection =x
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Date: Tue, Apr 6 2010 23:55:48
I request flame protection, now and from all possible future flaming that is directed at me.
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Date: Sun, May 2 2010 03:34:55
are you for real, this shit still up?
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Date: Sun, May 9 2010 00:26:44QUOTE (AoD1 @ May 1 2010, 08:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>are you for real, this shit still up?
Seriously, a big fuck you to everyone that signed up for this shit. -
Date: Tue, May 11 2010 08:51:47QUOTE (AoD1 @ May 2 2010, 11:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>are you for real, this shit still up?
ya..these faggots are stil hoping they get protection from flames even if they have "protection"...thts fuken bullshit amirite we still go flame them?? lol -
Date: Wed, May 12 2010 22:59:29
No, not really. AFAIC there's protection.
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Date: Sat, May 15 2010 23:30:07
flame protection is for pussys who cry to their mom when shit hits the fan.
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Date: Tue, May 18 2010 20:18:21QUOTE (AoD1 @ May 15 2010, 06:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>flame protection is for pussys who cry to their mom when shit hits the fan.
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Date: Fri, May 28 2010 19:16:15
Ok, use this thread to request flame protection or stop posting.
You guys are dumb to flame people who have flame protection, especially in their thread.