UPSB v3

Fundamental Tricks / Fundamental Combos

post yours

  1. Outsmash
    Date: Wed, Nov 19 2008 11:22:58

    I just wanted to try out a fundamental combo which is not easy and not very hard either.

    Post yours if you can make/have one.

    And are these considered fundamentals??

    (1). FL TA
    (2). FL TA Rev
    (3). TF Charge Rev (FL)
    (4). TS
    (5). Rev TS
    (6). FL TS (Rev)
    (7). If (1) is considered a fundamental the can Double TA be a fundamental? (since double TA = TA --> FL TA)
    (8) Fundamental Combos can involve hybrid within Fundamental right?? ( Twisted Sonic, Warped Sonic, Demon Sonic, etc.)

  2. BL4CKCR4Y0NS
    Date: Wed, Nov 19 2008 11:37:45

    I don't know what a hybrid is ... so I don't know the difference between a combo and a hybrid but ...


    TA Rev>Sonic 23-12>TA (repeat)

    Sonic 23-12>TA>TA Rev (repeat)

    (Yeah. I know these aren't the best in the world mellow.gif )

    For the second one, I like to replace the Sonic with a Twisted Sonic but since this for fundamentals only ... meh. Sonic works. unsure.gif

  3. riverboy
    Date: Wed, Nov 19 2008 11:47:03

    I thought... we were supposed to post a video.

  4. BL4CKCR4Y0NS
    Date: Wed, Nov 19 2008 11:50:20

    QUOTE (riverboy @ Nov 19 2008, 10:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I thought... we were supposed to post a video.


    Who said anything about video ..?

  5. riverboy
    Date: Wed, Nov 19 2008 11:55:03

    well it did say post your combos... so I thought a video

  6. Jiinn
    Date: Wed, Nov 19 2008 15:25:39

    Eriror's fundamental combo..?

  7. Scandiacus
    Date: Wed, Nov 19 2008 19:48:24

    Fingerpass? K4LC? I dunno ph34r.gif

  8. Spidey
    Date: Wed, Nov 19 2008 22:18:24

    I don't think I'd call K4LC a fundamental combo.. It has a twisted sonic and thumb spin which aren't fundamentals?

  9. Eric
    Date: Thu, Nov 20 2008 01:59:29

    QUOTE (Outsmash @ Nov 19 2008, 03:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    And are these considered fundamentals??

    (1). FL TA
    (2). FL TA Rev
    (3). TF Charge Rev (FL)
    (4). TS
    (5). Rev TS
    (6). FL TS (Rev)
    (7). If (1) is considered a fundamental the can Double TA be a fundamental? (since double TA = TA --> FL TA)
    (8) Fundamental Combos can involve hybrid within Fundamental right?? ( Twisted Sonic, Warped Sonic, Demon Sonic, etc.)


    I don't think so... cuz that will mean that all combos are fundamental-based, because all tricks are basically variations of fundamentals.

  10. octan3
    Date: Thu, Nov 20 2008 04:15:09

    thumbaround T1-12, pass normal 12-23, pass normal 23-34, sonic 34-23, charge 23-23, sonic 23-12.. thats what i do when im bored lol

  11. BL4CKCR4Y0NS
    Date: Thu, Nov 20 2008 05:20:15

    QUOTE (octan3 @ Nov 20 2008, 03:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    thumbaround T1-12, pass normal 12-23, pass normal 23-34, sonic 34-23, charge 23-23, sonic 23-12.. thats what i do when im bored lol


    That's a sexy fundamental trick =D


    Needa' practise Sonic 34-23 dry.gif wink.gif

  12. Outsmash
    Date: Thu, Nov 20 2008 11:08:23

    QUOTE (BL4CKCR4Y0NS @ Nov 20 2008, 10:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    That's a sexy fundamental trick =D


    Needa' practise Sonic 34-23 dry.gif wink.gif


    That's really easy though...

    Anyways Twisted Sonic is a fundamental and warped sonic too...


    Twisted Sonic --> Charge ~ Pass Rev ~ Charge
    Warped Sonic --> Charge - pass
    Demon's Sonic --> Twisted Sonic ~ Pass (I'm not sure about this one)..

  13. Missle_Z
    Date: Fri, Nov 21 2008 02:02:03

    QUOTE (Outsmash @ Nov 20 2008, 03:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    That's really easy though...

    Anyways Twisted Sonic is a fundamental and warped sonic too...


    Twisted Sonic --> Charge ~ Pass Rev ~ Charge
    Warped Sonic --> Charge - pass
    Demon's Sonic --> Twisted Sonic ~ Pass (I'm not sure about this one)..

    I thought Demon's Sonic was
    Sonic~pass

  14. Vasi
    Date: Fri, Nov 21 2008 02:54:43

    The fundamentals are TA, Charge, Sonic, and Fingerpass and the reverse of those. Warped Sonic and Twisted Sonics are variations of the Sonic that incorporates the Charge. The fundamentals are the fundamentals

  15. cheesecake
    Date: Fri, Nov 21 2008 03:18:50

    I thought that fundamentals are TA Charge Sonic Fingerpass and Infinity???

  16. octan3
    Date: Fri, Nov 21 2008 04:39:01

    i think the point is it is supposed to be easy. i mean, it gets newbs(like me) something to be proud about, so i can keep on going. lol.

  17. Outsmash
    Date: Fri, Nov 21 2008 06:08:01

    QUOTE (Vasi @ Nov 21 2008, 09:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    The fundamentals are TA, Charge, Sonic, and Fingerpass and the reverse of those. Warped Sonic and Twisted Sonics are variations of the Sonic that incorporates the Charge. The fundamentals are the fundamentals


    dude Twisted Sonic is a Charge --> Pass so it's basically just two tricks.. Just a name

  18. Jiinn
    Date: Fri, Nov 21 2008 06:24:10

    QUOTE (octan3 @ Nov 19 2008, 11:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    thumbaround T1-12, pass normal 12-23, pass normal 23-34, sonic 34-23, charge 23-23, sonic 23-12.. thats what i do when im bored lol

    Thats something like a hyper sonic except for the TA and charge Lol

  19. Zombo
    Date: Fri, Nov 21 2008 14:13:47

    this thread is going nowhere if you dont post REAL fundamental combos.

    Fundamentals: the 4 fundamentals + their 4 reverses, THAT'S IT.

    if you want to post easy combos, use the thread "post combos with simple tricks" in advanced section

  20. Crazy Demon
    Date: Fri, Nov 21 2008 21:04:59

    TA-->TA Rev

    Sonic 34-23 --> Sonic 23-12

    That's all I can do atm sad.gif

  21. Eak
    Date: Wed, Nov 26 2008 00:28:00

    QUOTE (Crazy Demon @ Nov 21 2008, 05:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    TA-->TA Rev

    Sonic 34-23 --> Sonic 23-12

    That's all I can do atm sad.gif


    Those are called the ThumbAround Harmonic and the Sonic Rise, in case you didn't know.

    Here's mine

    TA > TA Reverse T1 12 > Pass 12 23 > Charge 23 > Sonic 23 12 > Charge 12 > Repeat

    For me, the transition from the Charge 12 to the ThumbAround really sucks unless I do the Charge palm-down.

    Looking at it now, this is really similar to Octane's

  22. Ste
    Date: Wed, Nov 26 2008 03:10:08

    Twisted Sonic 23-12 > Pass 12-23 > Twisted Sonic 23-12 > Pass 12-23-34-23 > Sonic 23-12 > Warped Sonic 12-23 > Twisted Sonic 23-12 > Pass Reverse 12-23-34 > Sonic Rise > ThumbAround
    Lots of rotations if done smoothly.

  23. Fire Ant
    Date: Wed, Nov 26 2008 13:03:22

    Here's my combo that I'm doing at the moment:

    Kam's 4 Loop Combo > Rev ThumbAround 23 > twisted sonic bust > charge 12 > triple infinity > twisted sonic bust

    I don't think that too hard? maybe the busts might be in the advanced section, but its pretty simple, and incorperates K4LC biggrin.gif

  24. Outsmash
    Date: Wed, Nov 26 2008 13:37:02

    QUOTE (Fire Ant @ Nov 26 2008, 07:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Here's my combo that I'm doing at the moment:

    Kam's 4 Loop Combo > Rev ThumbAround 23 > twisted sonic bust > charge 12 > triple infinity > twisted sonic bust

    I don't think that too hard? maybe the busts might be in the advanced section, but its pretty simple, and incorperates K4LC biggrin.gif


    Infinity, Busts, ThumbSpin (Kam's 4 loop combo) are all not Fundamental combos.

  25. cheesecake
    Date: Wed, Nov 26 2008 21:40:26

    How about

    TA > TA rev to 23 > Sonic > Sonic fall > Sonic rise [PD] > charge 12 > Pass rev 12-23 > Pass rev 23-34

  26. hillsongunited
    Date: Wed, Dec 3 2008 05:16:43

    Im a n00b, 1 month, so i have not much, looks really disjointed.. and lots of repetition

    charge 23>sonic 23 12>Pass 12 23>charge 23>TA>Pass 12 23>Pass 23 34>Sonic Rise>Charge 12>Pass 12 23 Repeat.... Idk, it gets my friends, cuz they're like, WOW YOU CAN SPIN THROUGH ALL FINGERS!! yeah but i suck...

  27. BL4CKCR4Y0NS
    Date: Fri, Dec 12 2008 09:12:19

    QUOTE (Crazy Demon @ Nov 22 2008, 08:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    TA-->TA Rev

    Sonic 34-23 --> Sonic 23-12

    That's all I can do atm sad.gif


    Isn't that Thumbaround Harmonic and Sonic Rise??

    EDIT: Sorry.. I didn't see Eak's post.

  28. Sakura
    Date: Fri, Dec 12 2008 22:27:41

    Sonic 34-23, Sonic 23-12, Sonic Reverse 12-23, Sonic Reverse 23-34, Rinse and REPEAT.

    hahahah.gif


    Rinse = Start Over -.-;

  29. Pensharp
    Date: Sat, Dec 13 2008 00:14:46

    QUOTE (Sakura @ Dec 12 2008, 05:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Sonic 34-23, Sonic 23-12, Sonic Reverse 12-23, Sonic Reverse 23-34, Rinse and REPEAT.

    hahahah.gif



    Sonic 23, Ta, Ta rev, Twisted sonic bust, Sonic rev, reapeat

  30. MFK93
    Date: Sun, Dec 14 2008 06:16:30

    i don't think twisted sonic bust is a fundamental..

    But this wat i like to do..

    Pass 34-23 Pass 23-12 Charge 12 TA T1 T1

  31. BL4CKCR4Y0NS
    Date: Sun, Dec 14 2008 08:19:59

    QUOTE (Sakura @ Dec 13 2008, 09:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Sonic 34-23, Sonic 23-12, Sonic Reverse 12-23, Sonic Reverse 23-34, Rinse and REPEAT.

    hahahah.gif



    What's a rinse...?

    QUOTE (MFK93 @ Dec 14 2008, 05:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    i don't think twisted sonic bust is a fundamental..

    But this wat i like to do..

    Pass 34-23 Pass 23-12 Charge 12 TA T1 T1


    And no, Tw. Sonic bust isn't a fundemental.

  32. Mett
    Date: Sat, Dec 20 2008 20:17:31

    A little COMBO: tongue.gif

    sonic 23-12(palm down) -> charge 12 (1.0)(palm down) -> pass reverse 12-23(palm down) -> pass reverse 23-12

  33. Mute
    Date: Tue, Dec 23 2008 09:08:22

    i do something like this:

    sonic 23-12, charge 12, pass 12-23-34-23, sonic 23-12, TA, TA rev 23, repeat..

  34. KhaDori
    Date: Tue, Dec 23 2008 17:26:15

    demon sonic -> ta harmonic -> twisted sonic -> ta.

  35. czesio
    Date: Tue, Dec 23 2008 17:41:34

    Sonic 23-12 => TA harmonic => Sonic Fall

  36. xxdefinitionxxメAM
    Date: Fri, Dec 26 2008 00:35:39

    QUOTE (Spidey @ Nov 19 2008, 02:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I don't think I'd call K4LC a fundamental combo.. It has a twisted sonic and thumb spin which aren't fundamentals?


    You are right about the thumbspin, but twisted sonic itself is a fundamental combo:
    Charge>Pass Rev

  37. BL4CKCR4Y0NS
    Date: Fri, Dec 26 2008 01:31:57

    QUOTE (xxdefinitionxxメAM @ Dec 26 2008, 11:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    You are right about the thumbspin, but twisted sonic itself is a fundamental combo:
    Charge>Pass Rev


    Twisted Sonic and Thumbspin are NOT combos. =="

  38. xavator18
    Date: Wed, Dec 31 2008 11:21:43

    QUOTE (BL4CKCR4Y0NS @ Dec 26 2008, 09:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Twisted Sonic and Thumbspin are NOT combos. =="


    Yup, they are hybrids. So Twisted sonic is not a Fundamental. Hybrids are mainly tricks that are done without any pauses. For example like Warp Sonic Variations. They mainly consists of Charge/Charge Rev and Fingerpass/Fingerpass Rev, but they are not considered as Fundamentals. So...K4LC is NOT a Fundamental Combo. A Fundamental Combo only consists of the EIGHT Fundamental tricks smile.gif

  39. enza99
    Date: Sun, Jan 18 2009 03:54:16

    Im just gonna go with these r fundamentals...
    TA, TA Rev, Sonic, Sonic Rev, Charge, Infinity/Figure 8, Pass/Wiper, Twisted Sonic(sorta?)

    TA -> TA Rev 23-> Sonic 23-12 -> Sonic Rev 12-23 -> Charge 23 -> TA -> Infinity/Figure 8 -> Wiper 23-12 End? btw im not quite familiar with breaking down my tricks notation blah blah idk

  40. Wall Screamer
    Date: Sun, Mar 1 2009 02:08:56

    Came up with this about two weeks ago. At the time it used every move I knew; I just was looking to see how to put them together.

    Charge 23>Sonic 23-12>Thumbaround>Fingerpass

  41. Muyonaise
    Date: Sun, Mar 8 2009 19:51:39

    uhm what about
    Sonic 23-12 > Fingerpass 23 > TA > Charge 12

    or one i like to do which looks really fast coz im a n00b who started a week ago is

    Charge 23 > TA

  42. Alchemical_kiss
    Date: Sun, Jun 14 2009 19:15:50

    QUOTE (octan3 @ Nov 19 2008, 11:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    thumbaround T1-12, pass normal 12-23, pass normal 23-34, sonic 34-23, charge 23-23, sonic 23-12.. thats what i do when im bored lol


    Wait, I'm confused huh.gif
    When I do thumbaround, it ends back at T1. How does it go to 12?

    Otherwise, I think I can do this combo, it's sweet.

  43. Loanshark
    Date: Sun, Jun 14 2009 19:24:05

    QUOTE (Alchemical_kiss @ Jun 14 2009, 03:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Wait, I'm confused huh.gif
    When I do thumbaround, it ends back at T1. How does it go to 12?

    Otherwise, I think I can do this combo, it's sweet.


    I think he means Extended Thumbaround.

  44. Ktk
    Date: Mon, Jun 15 2009 00:33:46

    You can do a normal TA and make it land on the 12... >_> when you catch it extend your middle finger out a bit and you should catch it with the T-1. Right? Move the thumb back a bit and that's a 12 ending.

    +1: Does Ext. Ta count as a fundamental? =/

  45. Toshihiko
    Date: Mon, Jun 15 2009 05:47:31

    @loanShark,i dont think he meant Ext.TA,because if u notice,when u do a Ta Normal,u are holding the pen with 3fingers,1,2 and T1,so if u remove T1,u are doing Ta T1-12.although,like u,my first impression was Ext.Ta.What i mean,when u doing normal Ta,is when u are doing a TA,and preparing to do Ta rev.before doing Ta rev,that is imo a Normal TA


  46. Xantu
    Date: Mon, Jun 15 2009 21:20:00

    For anyone still looking for some beginner's combo's I found it extremely helpful to visit the Beginner's Tack-On thread in the battlezone portion of this site. There are a lot of great little combos in there that use the fundamental tricks. I've been looking at the video's and just copying what other people are doing, it helps a lot!

  47. Loanshark
    Date: Tue, Jun 16 2009 00:29:13

    Just some mini combo I spam all the time xDD

    [Palm Vertical] Twisted Sonic 23-12 > Twisted Sonic Reverse 12-23 > Pass 23-34 > [Switch to Palm Down] > Sonic 34-23 > Twisted Sonic 23-12 > Thumbaround T1-T1 (notation correct?)

  48. Rinnow
    Date: Tue, Jun 16 2009 19:50:06

    Yup It's correct.

  49. Tiger
    Date: Sun, Jun 21 2009 11:40:16

    twisted sonic(palm-down) -(tilt-hand)TA -TAreverse t1-2-3 -sonic

    i know twisted sonic isnt fundemental but i found easy to do and this combo helpped me loads
    smile.gif

  50. BobMarley14
    Date: Sun, Jun 21 2009 18:42:48

    QUOTE (Tiger @ Jun 21 2009, 07:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    twisted sonic(palm-down) -(tilt-hand)TA -TAreverse t1-2-3 -sonic

    i know twisted sonic isnt fundemental but i found easy to do and this combo helpped me loads
    smile.gif

    some people consider it fundamental because it's a hybrid notated as charge> pass rev

  51. Ktk
    Date: Sun, Jun 21 2009 19:40:48

    I made one. there are no fancy names, just the basics. Sonic23-12>Charge12>Pass12-23>PassRev23-12>Thumbaround.

    The pass/passRev is just there to incorporate the pass into it xD it's basically a back&forth kind of movement.

    Note:
    Charge12>TA is sketch if you don't get how to move the momentum though T_T

  52. Poseidon
    Date: Sun, Jun 21 2009 21:37:51

    sonic 34-23> twisted sonic 23-12> Rev Ta> Ta(falls into 34)

    can be done on a loop with little practice

  53. pReTTysMooTh
    Date: Tue, Jun 23 2009 01:40:26

    ish i always thought k4lc was A fingerpass from 34 to 23 to 12 then a thumbspin... or in my case a thumbaround cos i suck

  54. Kuro
    Date: Tue, Jun 23 2009 02:00:25

    QUOTE (pReTTysMooTh @ Jun 22 2009, 06:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    ish i always thought k4lc was A fingerpass from 34 to 23 to 12 then a thumbspin... or in my case a thumbaround cos i suck


    Its palm down sonic 34-23, palmdown twist sonic 23-12, and a 1.5 thumbspin

  55. p01zon3d
    Date: Sun, Nov 15 2009 02:47:25

    a simple combo that bonkura did full fingerpass 12-12>pass normal 12-23>sonic 23-12>neosonic 12-t1>tf charge reverse>fl ta reverse>pass 12-23>twisted sonic 23-12>fl ta normal (one he does in ballsign mod tutorial)

  56. Microwavablable
    Date: Sun, Nov 15 2009 06:45:37

    Well, here's my really short and easy combo:

    Charge 23 > Sonic 23-12 > Thumbaround > Pass 12-23 > Repeat

    Good for practicing fundamentals, no reverses though.

  57. unicorndog
    Date: Sun, Nov 15 2009 18:21:23




    thumb arround, then reverse thumbaround,soinc and then finger pass finger pass and finger pass and then twisted ssonic bust

  58. enter name
    Date: Mon, Nov 16 2009 20:14:58

    I love to do Sonic Rev 12-23 to Pass 23-34 to Pass 34-23 to Twisted Sonic 23-12 and then repeat.

    That was the first combo I got fluently. happy.gif

  59. pReTTysMooTh
    Date: Sat, Dec 5 2009 00:53:23

    here's 1 that flows rly nice

    sonic rise > pass 12-23 > twisted sonic > pass 12-t1 >pass t1-12 > pass 12-23 > double charge [basically a fund.] > tws > sonic fall looks awesome even tho it's simple.

    normally at the beginning I'd do shadow 34 23 then inverse sonic but this works just as well since it's fundamental. after the fall i'd do a pass 34-23-12 then shadow 12-23 and tws bust w/ fl ta/dbl ta or just normal TA but that's just me O_o. it looks incredibly beastly even tho it's simple. it can be repeated from sonic fall back to sonic rise.

    is double charge/twisted sonic a fundamental?.. It's just Charges and Passes essentially heh.

  60. Nachoaddict
    Date: Sun, Dec 6 2009 03:07:26

    Is there anything i can do with these tricks?

    TA rev

    Pass
    Pass Rev
    Fingerpass

    Wiper
    Charge
    Infinity
    Double Infinity
    Triple Infinity

    Sonic/rise/fall
    Sonic Rev
    Twisted Sonic
    Twisted Sonic Inverse
    Twisted Sonic Bust
    Harmonic

    Bakaround

    Shadow

    Dunno if i'm allowed to ask this kinda question...