UPSB v3
Team Dump / Final round collab info / brainstorm
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Date: Sat, Dec 6 2008 06:20:04
http://www.upsb.info/forum/index.php?showtopic=14384
I'm officially not in charge of this team, since I am organizor and judge.
This means you will have to find someone to edit on your own. Could be someone in the team or outside.
You should decide who the editor is soon.
I suggest you plan early and hand-in early.
The FINAL deadline is 12/30, which means you gotta hand in early to give time for editing.
You should talk with the editor to determine how much time he needs to edit.
One of the judging criterion for the collab battle is "collab originality". I suggest you pick a theme that's not too hard to use, but cool nevertheless, if you want to score points in this category. Otherwise, just go for a straight collab. There's also points for music synchronicity, but I think this is more about picking the right song, rather than spinning to some music (difficult)
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Date: Sat, Dec 6 2008 07:43:29
what should we put in collab beside combo..i mean any specification like title,timeline,credit...?
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Date: Sat, Dec 6 2008 13:12:59
Hey guys,
if you are fine with it, I would love to do the Editing! I would need 1-5 Days for it!
Also I got a Idea for the Video:
How do you think, if we all would do a "Saizen-KUzu" Transfer Clip, so nobody would really have a ending, but a sexy transfer to the other:
Advantages:
Originality
Creativity
Less Work for Editor but sill looking good O_o
I would be happy about a fast reply, for be able to build up a BreakDown
greetz
Minwoo -
Date: Sat, Dec 6 2008 14:32:09QUOTE (ellusion67 @ Dec 6 2008, 02:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>what should we put in collab beside combo..i mean any specification like title,timeline,credit...?
in the rules, it says the minimum requirement is to have names of each spinner on screen. you also need to display the team name. Of course, you also need music since 10% of judging is on that. -
Date: Sat, Dec 6 2008 16:03:30
that was a good idea..minwoo..but too bad,i filmed my combo already..anyway,i can record again if needed.
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Date: Sat, Dec 6 2008 18:23:22
that sounds like a good idea but we will have to decide who does what transfer
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Date: Sat, Dec 6 2008 18:36:26
Sorry, but can somebody post the "Saizen-Kuzu" transfer clip?
minwoo, can you add me on msn? [email protected] -
Date: Sun, Dec 7 2008 00:44:47
Minwoo's idea is really nice.
We should discuss on position first (about each spinner's angle..this really important xD),and which transfer will be done : an aerial pass , an I-Sonic, a rolling..etc...
Minwoo's editing is epic.
Good luck !
EDIT :
@Toast : here you go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGvY8kEBJCY -
Date: Sun, Dec 7 2008 02:13:28
So it looks like almost everybody like the idea ... =D
so I think first of all we should do a Line Up, whos first e.g. second ...
cause after we did that we could talk exactly about the transfers! (Like Chautran told)
also if 1 person would do a "standing" combo would this collab going be kickassing :>
(after my opinion^^)
But yeah ... it would be hard to connect a standing Combo with a transfer!
Anyways I really dont want to annoy you guys but we should build up the line up and transfer pretty fast ... at least in 3 days oder sth!
[After thinking about that how its gonna be with 6 Transfers ... I think we should reduce it to 3 or 4 Clips that are connected through Transfers:
- Easier to Line Up, Angles, Tranfers, Connection Ideas e.g
- Place for a standing Combo
- Place for one really epic single clip/or other Ideas (like two guys in one clip ... but i dont think that we live nearly in one place? xD)]
sorry for bad english
greetz
minmin -
Date: Sun, Dec 7 2008 02:55:40
I will make a standing combo...I'll make an example now
EDIT :
ARG...my room is small...cant finish the idea
SRY guys t,T -
Date: Sun, Dec 14 2008 17:42:02
woahoah has a week gone by already?
Let's get this thing underway, I think minwoo's ideas are great, but I have always thought the most appealing part of the collab is how it matches with the MUSIC. like the ps promos! i want a lot of random clips and shit just to sync with the music, like small 2-3 second clips. teehees
Nonethless, we need to get a lineup. I am pretty sure we live on opposite sides of the world, so we have to have to have 6 clips, with 6 transfers.
we should do something with faceshots too, since nobody ever does that and being unique is NICE.
EDIT- LOL we could do something really stupid and funny, like at the end of each clip we bring our faces to the camera (or bring camera up) and scream the next persons name, sort of like a REAL tag. so like spin spin spi>pen throw>camera up>scream MINWOO
lol ye ye ye ye yeyeye -
Date: Mon, Dec 15 2008 04:30:59
In my opinion :
+ pholord : his style is fast, overall if he catch the pen after a transfer, it will not match his spinning. So he should be the beginner....pholord is righty and I know his angle so next to him should be Dathroat with Exodus- Genesis 2nd angle.
+ Dathroat : his spinning space is really good, and his spinning is nice too but his ending seems a little easy...he cant be the last.
+ Me : my space is small, anyway, I can manage some easy transfer like : Aerial Pass, I-Sonic....I always shake when do an ending so I dont want to be the last.
+ Ellusion : nice angle too...I see he can change angle easily...so decide on him
+ Toast and Minwoo : both have good ending, but I prefer Minwoo. -
Date: Mon, Dec 15 2008 20:06:04
to tell you the truth i don't think worrying about transfers is as important as actual music synchronicity, and the "exciting-ness" of the collab
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Date: Tue, Dec 16 2008 06:32:32
i think chautran's order is pretty good
i say minwoo last as well
im planning to do a palm spin riser for my transfer -
Date: Thu, Dec 18 2008 19:48:02
Hey guys,
Since last week I wrote 6 Tests, school was annoying alot, but now I gonna have holidays, so I am sorry for replying so late...
anyways ... lets get started and making an awesome Collab:
@Toast:
Good idea and definitly unique but I really dont like to show my face xD
@Chautran:
Nice Analysis =)
@Toast:
yes thats the problem that I gonna speak on
So yeah:
I think the line up from Chautran is pretty good, starting with Pholord sounds good to me, but I dont think we should include Dathroat in a Transferclip, the reason is that I think Dathroat is probably the most creativ and innovativ spinner in our Team put him in a lineup and giving him the task to catch and do a transfre would decrease is "playingroom of creativness" (xD hope you understand me), so I would prefer seeing him doing a creative and innovative single Clip).
Still I am thinking that a standing Combo would pushing our chances to win ... so is there anybody who would like doing that job? (If not I am gonna do it)
I think after Pholord just 2 of us should follow: I would love seeing Chautran in the end (Fl Tas)
who should be in the middle I dont know!
So one spinner would be left and he could doing a normal single clip, or be the second middle guy in the Lineup, or if it is possible doing 2-3 miniclips(anybody knows if it is possible that a spinner appears more then one time in the collab?), like cont. Tricks.
Why not doing a total Transferlineup and be unique?
1. Alot of recording Problems and Transfer Problems
2. the MUSIC PROBLEM
If we would have one lineup we/me as editor just could hope that the lineup luckierwise fits to the music, but if the split and having like 4 Clips ( Standing, Dathroat, Lineup, Normal) I could change the clips and making it fits to the music ...
and this is an other problem ... what music? O_o
greetz
min -
Date: Fri, Dec 19 2008 01:19:39
i think for standing up combo,minwoo should doing that cuz he has a good skill and nice idea for standing up combo..i'm willing to be in the middle..
it is fix with collab if we use techno or trance song? -
Date: Fri, Dec 19 2008 06:18:09
I won't be doing anything creative this round. Probably gonna spam the whole combo. So just put my combo anywhere.
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Date: Sun, Dec 21 2008 01:57:27
guyz,can i put in last ? cuz i can't record a combo anymore..my cam broke up..can't use it anymore
..but i can borrow a cam from my friend
nvm.i can use my cam now.. -
Date: Sun, Dec 21 2008 16:12:55
uhh, i dunno, standing combos tend to be a lot less skill and a lot more presentation.
Minwoo is too good of a spinner to task on that. you need a camera right in front of his hands to showcase what he has.
since i'm probably the worst anyway, i'll can try the standing combo. I don't know what to do though, so if i sturggle too much i'll push the task onto someone else lol -
Date: Sun, Dec 21 2008 16:21:46
So its the 21st December 9 Days left ... its gonna be tough .. I will do the standing Combo if this is allright with you toast ... I allready got an idea (with skill - dont scare) ... so I would appreciat if you guys gonna get your lineups up and start recording ... cause I need some days 1-3 to edit sth ... and I still NEED MUSIC .. I HAVE NO CLUE WHAT TO TAKE!!!
EDIT:
take a look at 2:20
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=Ty_7ZB1YMhA&NR=1
where are nice transfers ... or maybe look the whole video cause its awesome^^ -
Date: Mon, Dec 22 2008 05:17:11
If Ellusion can re-film his combo, I'll be the last.
If not, please tell me soon ^^! -
Date: Mon, Dec 22 2008 08:06:06
i can use mycam now,and sure i can re-film my combo
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Date: Mon, Dec 22 2008 19:07:47
ok, sure thing minwoo, if you have an idea then go with it
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Date: Wed, Dec 24 2008 09:42:32
Here is what I'll be doing... Nothing fancy.
And I'll be overseas for the next 4 days, so I probably won't be re-filming. Personally, I don't know how this will fit with any of the transfers.
Link -
Date: Wed, Dec 24 2008 20:41:10
2x post?
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Date: Wed, Dec 24 2008 20:41:45
uhh i was planning on doing a finisher like this:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?t1nyzjzjuim
so that you or whoever comes after me can start with off from a mid air TA release or similar move -
Date: Thu, Dec 25 2008 20:54:43
Guys?^^
5 Days left or better said 3 Days (cause of Editing)
Pholord starts --> Palmspin Release to right or left?
Then ellusion or toast?
then Chautran with ending?
Gogogo xD -
Date: Fri, Dec 26 2008 03:48:15
Pholord starts --> Palmspin Release to right
ellusion67 start --> flick release(like saizen doing in WT 08)
toast/pholord ---> ???? -
Date: Fri, Dec 26 2008 15:07:31
Pholord doing a Palmspin Release to Right ( How is your Cam Angle?)
If Ellusion is next he maybe catch it with a thumbindexspin and then at the end doing a flick (like saizen? with the left hand? or in which direction and what cam angle?)
After that Chautran catch it with i dont know and come to the end?
An Toast doing an single Clip? Or spinning between Ellu and Chau?
Or should we switch Ellu and Toast bzw Ellu allready got a clip right?
.... cause we have to hurry up and get those transfers done and with 3 people that is probably easier!
Because I dont want to be the dumbass who have to stay 24h awake to get the Collab on the last day finished! xD
Sorry for annoying and stuff ... but I hope you understand me^^ -
Date: Fri, Dec 26 2008 18:02:23
alright ill transfer to the right to ellusion
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Date: Fri, Dec 26 2008 22:25:12
if can,can i be in single clip ?,cuz school will start 3 days more,and my mom don't allow me to stay up to late..so i have no time to record my combo..
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Date: Sat, Dec 27 2008 03:39:42
i can work out a trasnfer from dathroat
i'll film a video of the pen rolling down my chair, then cut to me picking up the pen then spinning with the chair right there
i can transition to something else afterwards if necessary or something
we should get the patterns laid out in like name chains or something
remember when you guys are filming, we should alsos end in like random miniclips or something if possible, to help make it more exciting ^^ (optional, minwoo can just cut from our combos anyway) -
Date: Sat, Dec 27 2008 06:50:07
if ellusion is going single then am i transfering to toast?
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Date: Sat, Dec 27 2008 09:20:35
Is it possible if all you guys spin a full white pen ?
I will film tomorrow. -
Date: Sat, Dec 27 2008 19:55:26
Hmmm
Pholord spins --> Make a Palmspin Release right of his Camera
Toast catch it from the left side of his camere (giving himself a ta rev from lefthand to right or sth)
then keep spinning giving Chautran a Transfer (which one)?
Chautran catch it and give an awesome ending
and everbody with a white pen? -
Date: Sat, Dec 27 2008 23:56:10
too bad,i filmed my combo using dr.ct
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Date: Sun, Dec 28 2008 01:23:12
I think chautran meant the guys who are on the transfers lineup ... so you shouldnt care ellu =)
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Date: Sun, Dec 28 2008 04:37:18
It's ok with any pen.
I need to know Toast's transfer. -
Date: Sun, Dec 28 2008 05:15:11
ok so dathroat is single too then?
so the transfer is going pholord, me, then TNC?
well I'm gonna be filming on the ground this time, so at the end of my video, i will put the pen on the table and roll it (from the front of the table)
then TNC you can film with a pen rolling in front the front of your desk, like i just put it there, if you are filming on a bed.
edit- its s shame really, i fould have worked out a trasnfer from the end of dathroats clip, maybe i can film two clips? one really short one from the end of dathroats thats like real quick to pholords, then pholord back to me? -
Date: Sun, Dec 28 2008 05:27:25
my vid for AC R2..
http://rapidshare.com/files/177439475/AC_R2_______.mpg.html -
Date: Sun, Dec 28 2008 07:26:01
here my vid
sorry i cant get a good release to the right but as long as it goes up it should be ok
http://www.mediafire.com/?fjkwjwl4mey -
Date: Sun, Dec 28 2008 16:03:10
blah, ok whatever, we are obviously too low on time to discuss anything else apparently, so i'm just going to go ahead and film.
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Date: Sun, Dec 28 2008 17:19:19
Nice Combo Ellu but a little less quality? Maybe you renderd it wrong? Because its really unsharp =(
To Pholord O_o damn hot sexy combo but the transfer wasnt so good ... you shouldn have tried to catch you pen, just flick it out of camera anyway i think its ok -
Date: Sun, Dec 28 2008 23:01:37
sorry ..my cam sux, guyz
,i can't make anything. i only get a new cam next years -
Date: Sun, Dec 28 2008 23:19:18QUOTE (Minwoo @ Dec 28 2008, 09:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Nice Combo Ellu but a little less quality? Maybe you renderd it wrong? Because its really unsharp =(
To Pholord O_o damn hot sexy combo but the transfer wasnt so good ... you shouldn have tried to catch you pen, just flick it out of camera anyway i think its ok
i have another take with a catch but the release isnt good if its gonna be used as a transfer ot the next person -
Date: Mon, Dec 29 2008 05:31:58
sup guys, i got a pretty felxible clip here, chau can transfer sorta since i kind of (off cam though lol) roll a pen on the table, and i started with a ta riser-ish thing from my right hand, it can work with pholords clip with or without it..
Minwoo want me to film random mini clips that you can choose and whatnot? why don't we all do that?
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?zwti2wibz3a -
Date: Mon, Dec 29 2008 15:34:45
Yeah I wanted to, but I read the rules again the spinner is just able to appear one time in the Collab =/
Chautran? Gogo =D
anyways I am going to start editing now! -
Date: Mon, Dec 29 2008 15:45:27
ok then
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Date: Mon, Dec 29 2008 20:32:39
So yeah Pholords Clip and the Clip from Toast fitting good, not perfect but still awesome I think ... so Chautran I hope you are recording; starting with the pen rolling to you =P
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Date: Tue, Dec 30 2008 06:47:18
recored 2 days ago but got some internet problems
Sorry guys
Here my vid : http://www.mediafire.com/?2nwm4tbprt4 -
Date: Tue, Dec 30 2008 17:22:25
Thanks Chautran, your Clip is awesome but:
It really looks like cutted or editet at the end on the Fl Tas ... I know you are pro ... and you definitly dont need sth. like cheating on your clips ... but I am sure its gonna be a discussion theme! So make sure you have a good explanation for that!
anyways I go to edit now! -
Date: Wed, Dec 31 2008 00:10:57
Hey Guys,
first of all I want to apologize that the Quality is so messed up, I dont know if it was me or YT who screwed up the quality, so plz download for better quality.
And sorry for that very very bad music transition in ~1min - havent much time.
Still I hope you enjoy!!!
Youtube-Link
Download-Link
@Zombo:
I would appreciate if you take the YT-Link with the "High"-Quality!
Thanks and sorry!
Minwoo -
Date: Wed, Dec 31 2008 03:59:49
i see wat u mean by the music transition but overall it still turned out nicely. im surprised i recognized the music you used
awesome editing and awesome finishing combo ^^ -
Date: Wed, Dec 31 2008 05:27:44
@Minwoo : I know it got mistake. But I didnt edit my clip...I have got alot of problems like that before (like in WC 08 clip) and the time is so short...I cant refilm . It all caused by my 30fps cam and my computer dont go so well. Dont know why. Its quality better than my old 15fps but you know, 15fps cam is so awful.....
Nice editing Minwoo, and good job everyone. -
Date: Wed, Dec 31 2008 16:14:29
thx everybody for submitting the collab in time!
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Date: Wed, Dec 31 2008 16:40:52
yeaaaaaahyeaheyahyeah transfer turned out better than i thought lol good job minwoo, you are a good editor
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Date: Wed, Dec 31 2008 16:44:14
@minwoo:you're the best editor ever..hope our team can win...