UPSB v3
Serious Discussion / Teacher Wages
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Date: Tue, Dec 9 2008 01:15:28
I'm bringing this up because im seriously considering becoming a teacher. And my question is.. Why are teachers paid so little? Arn't their jobs important to society and whatnot? I never really got this, anyone got a reason why?
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Date: Tue, Dec 9 2008 01:18:35
because people can teach themselves. or teachers say they're not gettin paid a lot, but rly they do
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Date: Tue, Dec 9 2008 01:26:59
http://www.payscale.com/research/US/All_K-12_Teachers/Salary
they get paid okay -
Date: Tue, Dec 9 2008 01:30:55
Teachers aren't paid that little.
You're basing your assumption off the negativity that many teachers have towards their salaries due to the fact that they are not paid enough for the work that they have to do.
Why?
1) They don't have to do all the work they do
Teachers often take it upon themselves to go beyond what their job entails. I've had many teachers who really did nothing, because they didn't want to. My math teacher last year didn't grade homework, and let his aids grade the quizzes and tests in class. He literally went home with no work to do. Other teachers assign tons of work, projects, and even grade notes.
2) Where are we supposed to get this money from? Public education can only afford to pay teachers so much. It isn't as if the quality of their teachers affects some sort of profit the school is supposed to be making.
So yeah. -
Date: Tue, Dec 9 2008 01:37:21
there are some teachers at my high school that get payed over 100,000 ... Some don't get payed as well, but a lot do
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Date: Tue, Dec 9 2008 01:38:30
Your pay goes up based on a chart of time in your district vs. education level
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Date: Tue, Dec 9 2008 01:40:45QUOTE (Shadowserpant @ Dec 8 2008, 08:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Your pay goes up based on a chart of time in your district vs. education level
yeah
so, what level are you looking to teach at? -
Date: Tue, Dec 9 2008 01:42:52
plzzzzzz dont say u wanna be a english teacher T.T
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Date: Tue, Dec 9 2008 01:44:35
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education level as in what level of degree you have
bachelors, masters, phd -
Date: Tue, Dec 9 2008 01:55:58QUOTE (Shadowserpant @ Dec 8 2008, 08:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
education level as in what level of degree you have
bachelors, masters, phd
well, high school teachers get paid more than 5th grade teachers, thats what I'm asking -
Date: Tue, Dec 9 2008 01:57:50QUOTE (IAmTheMrGuy @ Dec 8 2008, 05:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>yeah
so, what level are you looking to teach at?
at least grade 8. (lower than that and they get really annoying)
not sure, atm im just elminating things I DONT wan't to teach. which includes: English(assuming were talking about academic classes)
im hoping that 2 year of general studies in post secondary will give me a more better idea of what i want to do. -
Date: Tue, Dec 9 2008 03:07:16
you should read Tialys' blog:
http://www.upsb.info/forum/index.php?autom...p;showentry=287
one's salary is not a measure of one's contribution to society. -
Date: Tue, Dec 9 2008 08:22:08
1. Tons of holidays.
2. Piss easy work.
3. Alright pay for the work they do.
4. Become a teacher. -
Date: Tue, Dec 9 2008 09:36:08QUOTE (KurtAB @ Dec 9 2008, 04:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>1. Tons of holidays.
2. Piss easy work.
3. Alright pay for the work they do.
4. Become a teacher.
How do u know its that easy?Also i think it depends on what level of children your teaching. Some can get really annoying -
Date: Tue, Dec 9 2008 11:40:24
Because i get taught by teachers, i see what they do.
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Date: Tue, Dec 9 2008 17:05:38
It depends. University lecturers get paid a lot based on their credentials and experience, and also because they generally do research in addition to teaching. High school or elementary school teachers are paid less because they have less experience and their job involves less work. A lot of high school teachers don't even teach the whole day, unlike elementary school teachers. Intuitively, salaries should reflect an occupation's worth to society but they don't because salaries are not normalized based on importance. A capitalistic society allots pay based on the job's influence over controlling money, either directly or indirectly. There are a few exceptions, however, such as physicians, but then again physicians are self-employed.
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Date: Tue, Dec 9 2008 18:29:54
its not easy job dude, i think there was a poll and like 25% of all teachers are mentally ill (depression, breakdown, etc)
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Date: Tue, Dec 9 2008 23:40:04QUOTE (Zombo @ Dec 9 2008, 10:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>its not easy job dude, i think there was a poll and like 25% of all teachers are mentally ill (depression, breakdown, etc)
x_x.
well, i don't really know what else i wan't to do besides teach. i guess ill really figure it out in Generall studies in Post secondary. (to teach you have to do it anyways) and i might find something else that i really like. so far, teaching is the way to go. -
Date: Tue, Dec 9 2008 23:51:26
Our principal makes soo much.
She makes over $9000 usd. Literaly. 160k a year. and she doesnt even do anythin. just sits in an office and occasionally appears on the school news. -
Date: Wed, Dec 10 2008 00:01:32
It is definitely a stressful job, UNLESS you're the right person for it
the kind who knows what's their problem and what isn't
and who can deal with students -
Date: Wed, Dec 10 2008 06:33:02
I would hate to be a teacher. And I've seen teachers become fairly depressed because of a class
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Date: Wed, Dec 10 2008 23:57:26
Yeah, I've seen some teachers break down in class too. The class was so bad the teacher ran out crying...it was bad...
I think I'd have the tolerance to be a teacher though, I really want to be a teacher =] -
Date: Thu, Dec 11 2008 03:03:30
Teachers can be stressful IF the students hate you, they will create stress for you and you can't do anything about it
(unless they do something against the law against you, rules applies to you too)
When you get the job, do this math, $ x hours x days of school
Best way to start school, is to pen spin and they be like Cooooool and stare at you. -
Date: Thu, Dec 11 2008 08:13:37
do you even know what you're talking about? teachers get paid salaries, and they have paid sick days that can be accumulated
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Date: Mon, Feb 16 2009 01:07:04
As a student in Economics....teachers get paid what they should, not too much and not too little. Teachers' wages are set by the market, and that is the "fair" amount.
Teachers are in unions so it is a very secure job. It is very hard to get fired and IMO it is not a very good system, but i know there are not any perfect systems. Teachers' pay is not based off of performance only off of time worked. This does not give teachers intensives to work harder, a big reason our public education is not that good.
If you really want to be a teacher you really should, but just know that you will not be paid very much starting off. -
Date: Tue, Feb 17 2009 06:39:44
I sorta teach? If you wanna be a teacher, you gotta really be patient yet have control with the kids. And that thing about them getting paid very little, it just seems they get paid little for the amount of time they put into their job. Like, in an office job, you work from 9-5 and go home and repeat the next day. Some teachers at my school get there at 7:30 and leave after 5, and still mark and do stuff at home. Department heads and higher admin staff get paid more cuz of seniority and due to the fact that they do more work. And if you wanna be a teacher, you have to start at elementary levels, even if the kids are annoying. Then you can work with high school kids later. But trust me, little kids are fun. ^^ Not in that way, for you pervs out there.
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Date: Wed, Feb 18 2009 20:47:36QUOTE (Zombo @ Dec 9 2008, 06:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>its not easy job dude, i think there was a poll and like 25% of all teachers are mentally ill (depression, breakdown, etc)
We have an advert running at the moment over here that says that one in every four of us will suffer from a mental illness at some stage in our lives. Sounds like teachers maybe not far from the average...
Teachers here are quite well paid. Although initial pay is fairly low, as you work for more years, your pay increases. Most people here would agree being a teacher is a well paid job (about £23 000 where as average wage is somewhere around £17 000). You can also get increased pay for doing extra work (marking exam papers, being a head of a department etc). With extra work such as this, you can add £2 000 up to perhaps £10 000 more. And of course, there is oppurtunity to be promoted and increase pay still futher, not to mention a good pension plan.
That said, my mother is a teacher and she does not recommend the job to a soul... -
Date: Sat, May 2 2009 10:47:49
Can't speak for Americans, but I've never had a shitty teacher, they all seemed to enjoy what they do. And the work is not paid that great, 40k is pretty shitty, I'm not sure of the exact rate but the lico isn't too far below that.