UPSB v3
General Discussion / Asian Cup Final Round Videos OUT!
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Date: Wed, Dec 31 2008 22:03:31
JEB
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJ4qRSKCsj0&fmt=18
UPSB
http://youtube.com/watch?v=w11mDVM413w&fmt=18
http://rapidshare.de/files/41244856/AC08_UPSB.wmv.html
KPSA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6ZH0Wqi-Tg&fmt=18
PSH
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHtUFfbb9s0&fmt=18
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=C9F66F3W
Direct Download for ALL collabs: http://upsb.info/AC/R2/
This round is judged by all judges NOT from UPSB, KPSA, PSH, JEB. In other words, judges are THPSC, PDS, TWPS, HKPSA.
Template for this round: http://upsb.info/AC/template2.doc
You judge the 6 combos of the collab and add 3 criteria for the overall collab. -
Date: Wed, Dec 31 2008 22:13:15
GO UPSB!!
<3 Chau's TA's -
Date: Wed, Dec 31 2008 22:14:48
I loved Minwoo's and SkyDigital's combos the most!
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Date: Wed, Dec 31 2008 22:31:51
sangkm
i liked all the vids
they were all awesome.. go upsb!! -
Date: Wed, Dec 31 2008 22:42:25
Are you serious, Sangkm's back?
Nice editing Minwoo. -
Date: Wed, Dec 31 2008 22:46:09
Sangkm is making Sangkm 14th sometime...
but i thought sangkm was special helper?
someone else did the editing as far as i no... or not
anyway,,, PSH was just nuts -
Date: Wed, Dec 31 2008 22:46:41
Daaamn. My download limit exceeded.
I think UPSB might actually take this one
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Date: Wed, Dec 31 2008 22:54:30
whoa!!!!!!!!!!!! very nice
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Date: Wed, Dec 31 2008 22:57:04
wow all the videos were impressive!
but I think it's going to be a close one between JEB and PSH. JEB always impresses me and it wasn't disappointing as usual (as all the other videos of course ), and PSH, their creativity was off the charts. (especially ssEno's Black Tornado Nunchuk combo.)
I also like DaThroat's and Minwoo's combo as well
KPSA was great but it kinda got boring after awhile.... -
Date: Wed, Dec 31 2008 23:02:56
Yes, this is awesome
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Date: Wed, Dec 31 2008 23:12:46
Damn, KPSA is awesome haha
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Date: Wed, Dec 31 2008 23:20:58
Wow, insane...
Minwoo's combo was pretty crazy, and there was some pretty good editing. -
Date: Wed, Dec 31 2008 23:25:08
Meh, jeb was aight. Nothing special. I expected better from our WC champs.
UPSB definitely has a chance. Editing was epic and minwoo's combo had to be the best in the asia cup.
KPSA's border annoyed me like hell. :|
PSH's editing was...sensational. My favorite one after upsb. -
Date: Wed, Dec 31 2008 23:28:03
PSH was just amazing. All the time while i was watching it i was like wtf!
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Date: Thu, Jan 1 2009 00:07:44
Since the file download for PSH takes forever...here's Youtube:
PSH Round 2:
Simply beyond amazing. -
Date: Thu, Jan 1 2009 00:13:30
PSH's collab left me speechless. My mouth was wide open the whole time.
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Date: Thu, Jan 1 2009 00:30:17
wow........psh. those effects man the fire...
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Date: Thu, Jan 1 2009 00:38:43
JEB: the seemed to try and capture the beuty of spinning rather than use the more heart pounding effects that UPSB pulled out, which seems far more appropriate for a competition.
UPSB: It was a very good collab aside from a few poor transitions, but it is unfortunate that youtube cut the quality by so much.
KPSA: They surprised me as their spinners seemed to outdo both UPSB and JEB, but their effects were over the top and honestly annoyed the hell out of me....I could have sworn I saw a pencil in the border of the last spinner.
PSH: aside from the fact that it took half an hour to DL, They had a very good collab. The graphics may have been cheesy but at least they seemed to all be following a theme very well. -
Date: Thu, Jan 1 2009 00:47:59
thx frip
youtube link added -
Date: Thu, Jan 1 2009 00:54:50
Dang...PSH's video was just, just amazing.
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Date: Thu, Jan 1 2009 01:04:04QUOTE (Sadistic @ Dec 31 2008, 04:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>JEB: the seemed to try and capture the beuty of spinning rather than use the more heart pounding effects that UPSB pulled out, which seems far more appropriate for a competition.
UPSB: It was a very good collab aside from a few poor transitions, but it is unfortunate that youtube cut the quality by so much.
KPSA: They surprised me as their spinners seemed to outdo both UPSB and JEB, but their effects were over the top and honestly annoyed the hell out of me....I could have sworn I saw a pencil in the border of the last spinner.
PSH: aside from the fact that it took half an hour to DL, They had a very good collab. The graphics may have been cheesy but at least they seemed to all be following a theme very well.
Heartpounding effects aren't appropriate for competitions? What...?
And JEB's editing was pretty as usual, and their spinning was pretty as usual. But that's all it was, their usual. They did nothing special for the competition.
I agree with kpsa and psh though. -
Date: Thu, Jan 1 2009 01:05:37
The PSH video definitely sparked a sense of pride when I watched it.
All the videos were exceptional IMO. wonderful spinning and editing (save for the KPSA editing...) -
Date: Thu, Jan 1 2009 02:22:26
They all were amazing
But the editing on KPSA bugged me..... -
Date: Thu, Jan 1 2009 04:26:47
Minwoo performed some crazy shit there
But I still think EaglE did it better. -
Date: Thu, Jan 1 2009 04:34:39
I nearly wet my pants.
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Date: Thu, Jan 1 2009 04:53:56
i love PSH's editing and theme!
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Date: Thu, Jan 1 2009 08:22:49
Hmm UPSB and PSH are pretty close.. my favorite is PSH but that's just me..
I wonder if Sseno's clip will be actually counted as penspinning... Le0n's magic trick in WC08 didn't bring many points XD -
Date: Thu, Jan 1 2009 08:30:22QUOTE (SoldSoul @ Dec 31 2008, 08:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Heartpounding effects aren't appropriate for competitions? What...?
And JEB's editing was pretty as usual, and their spinning was pretty as usual. But that's all it was, their usual. They did nothing special for the competition.
I agree with kpsa and psh though.
no lol...thats what I meant. sorry that I worded it wrong, what I meant was that JEB took an elegant approach at it which seems as though it would not appeal to the judges as much as UPSB's heartpounding effects would appeal to the judges. -
Date: Thu, Jan 1 2009 08:34:33QUOTE (FripメECツ @ Jan 1 2009, 07:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I wonder if Sseno's clip will be actually counted as penspinning...
Wouldn't he have like 0 for difficulty, because its pretty easy just to swing the pen around. -
Date: Thu, Jan 1 2009 10:07:23QUOTE (dust_kidメMT @ Jan 1 2009, 04:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Wouldn't he have like 0 for difficulty, because its pretty easy just to swing the pen around.
swing his pen just his ending move , the other part aslo have difficulty ,as you said , do you think Dathroat in R1 have 0 point for difficulty caz he just do triangle pass?? I think you dont agree , and we dont agree too，what sseno want to express is mixing penpinning with nunchakus to cos Bruce Lee and show the endless spirit for theme“stronger†，just like what you saw the original string combo mixing penpinning with yoyo in bonkura solo 2nd is that bonkura just swing and jump ，but I think you will never forget the sweat on his back , make that effect call for lots of pratise,that is not easy ,just like Dathrout in ACR1，also not easy，and most important is the creativity and theme.
ssEno can also do lots of hard thicks ，but we think just a hard combo that is not enough for the theme“strongerâ€ï¼Œso you see a guy carry a nunchakus made of two Black Tornado and do something special，try another difficult possibility，it isnt as easy as you say。
We would like to see something special in the final round ，so we do it 。 -
Date: Thu, Jan 1 2009 10:33:37
Yes I was referring to the end combo and yes I have seen ssEno's other combos which are great. He really is an awesome pen spinner.
The wiper combo at the beginning I guess would be difficult, seeing that the tornado is attached to another tornado, BUT, I'd guess he'll loose out points due to the ending. Still a good vid though. -
Date: Thu, Jan 1 2009 10:42:56
PSH's collab just rocked man. The way they pass the pen around like a torch. Creative and awesome.
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Date: Thu, Jan 1 2009 11:06:21QUOTE (dust_kidメMT @ Jan 1 2009, 06:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Yes I was referring to the end combo and yes I have seen ssEno's other combos which are great. He really is an awesome pen spinner.
The wiper combo at the beginning I guess would be difficult, seeing that the tornado is attached to another tornado, BUT, I'd guess he'll loose out points due to the ending. Still a good vid though.
hehheh,dust_kidメMT，that is nunchakus skill ending aim to look more like Bruce Lee, never mind.
Because ssEno have never played nunchakus before just challenge himself this time，so he cant make a professional nunchakus end in short time。
if you have a good idea about how to do a more wonderful nunchakus ending ,could you make a clip for us to learn how to improve it，thank you。 -
Date: Thu, Jan 1 2009 12:54:55
Wow..
I love Minwoo's combo. Really good.
PSH has a nice theme.
Go UPSB! -
Date: Thu, Jan 1 2009 13:34:33
Damned, Minwoo's combo was just plain sick
KPSA's got some wonky editing, but I kinda liked RaFe's combo, especially the isolated wiper.
PSH's video is just...wow...loved 12ve's combo. The black paper spinning part kinda reminds me of Bonkura and lol @ the rubik's cube at the end. -
Date: Thu, Jan 1 2009 15:01:15QUOTE (Sian_ing @ Jan 1 2009, 12:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Minwoo performed some crazy shit there
But I still think EaglE did it better.
I think minwoo's combo is more difficult.
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Date: Thu, Jan 1 2009 15:56:01
direct download for every collab
http://upsb.info/AC/R2/ -
Date: Thu, Jan 1 2009 15:59:43
i was looking at the template, i see that each combo is out of 100, so 6 combos are out of 600, and the editing+theme+music is only 30???
then what's the point of editing? -
Date: Thu, Jan 1 2009 16:05:49QUOTE (AyySoLo @ Jan 1 2009, 10:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i was looking at the template, i see that each combo is out of 100, so 6 combos are out of 600, and the editing+theme+music is only 30???
then what's the point of editing?
no
6 combos = 70% of grade = 600/6 * 0.7
editing+theme+music = 30% of grade
read the rules -
Date: Thu, Jan 1 2009 16:15:33
WTF?!?!
PSH's collab is 188M?! -
Date: Thu, Jan 1 2009 17:36:22
PSH should win this one, off the charts theme like the olympic
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Date: Thu, Jan 1 2009 21:10:39
thought upsb and psh were best.... geez psh was awesome
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Date: Thu, Jan 1 2009 21:38:28
Wow PSH were on fire!
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Date: Thu, Jan 1 2009 22:49:14
I don't want to cause any trouble...but take a look at 1:38 of the UPSB collab...>_>"
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Date: Thu, Jan 1 2009 23:14:07QUOTE (FripメECツ @ Jan 1 2009, 06:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I don't want to cause any trouble...but take a look at 1:38 of the UPSB collab...>_>"
again with these accusations towards chau....it really disheartens me that people would actually believe chau would do such a thing, but i guess it is just time that he gets a better camera because this is really starting to affect people's opinions towards him...
EDIT: i just realized...if Ellusion got a new camera, why didn't he use it for this? -
Date: Thu, Jan 1 2009 23:47:34QUOTE (Sadistic @ Jan 1 2009, 06:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>again with these accusations towards chau....it really disheartens me that people would actually believe chau would do such a thing, but i guess it is just time that he gets a better camera because this is really starting to affect people's opinions towards him...
EDIT: i just realized...if Ellusion got a new camera, why didn't he use it for this?
if u read the comments on youtube, ellusion says he threw the old cam away and got new one after that combo -
Date: Fri, Jan 2 2009 08:51:15QUOTE (FripメECツ @ Jan 2 2009, 06:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I don't want to cause any trouble...but take a look at 1:38 of the UPSB collab...>_>"
o.o whats wrong with it?
sorry, watched it over and over but didnt see anything wrong >.> -
Date: Fri, Jan 2 2009 13:02:24QUOTE (FripメECツ @ Jan 2 2009, 06:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I don't want to cause any trouble...but take a look at 1:38 of the UPSB collab...>_>"
I don't really see anything though...except for some smooth spinning. -
Date: Fri, Jan 2 2009 13:16:50
It kinda jumps at that time, I guess what he was suggesting is that Chau editied in another clip mid combo.
I don't see that being likely, it was more that his cam lagged or something of the sort -
Date: Fri, Jan 2 2009 13:23:56QUOTE (FripメECツ @ Jan 2 2009, 05:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I don't want to cause any trouble...but take a look at 1:38 of the UPSB collab...>_>"
I saw that many times in Chau's clips
lots of people said its because of his cam because there is no reason to make a pro spinner like him edit it
but I think Chau didn't do anything to it >< idk -
Date: Fri, Jan 2 2009 13:33:39
erm.
LOL despite replaying at least 50 times i still couldnt see anything. zzz -
Date: Fri, Jan 2 2009 13:57:13
when he does the FL TAs theres a short pause. not really noticeable though.
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Date: Fri, Jan 2 2009 14:05:30QUOTE (Sian_ing @ Jan 2 2009, 09:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>when he does the FL TAs theres a short pause. not really noticeable though.
couldnt see it. youtube lags pretty bad for me so that probably adds on to it. -
Date: Fri, Jan 2 2009 14:08:01
That's just caused by the lack of RAM on his computer,some frames are lost while shooting the video.
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Date: Sat, Jan 3 2009 06:52:33
so how do you cumulate the round 1 with round 2?
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Date: Sat, Jan 3 2009 06:59:51
I think round 1 is just to decide which community enters round 2.
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Date: Sat, Jan 3 2009 13:39:22
so, when can we expect the results?
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Date: Sat, Jan 3 2009 16:45:34QUOTE (XternalメDGN @ Jan 2 2009, 09:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>erm.
LOL despite replaying at least 50 times i still couldnt see anything. zzz
dont see the hands.. see the forearm instead.. very obvious. but if the camera lagged... his hand wouldnt skipped this much. also the pen will not look smooth. also if he did a triple bust it probably meant that he did 4 instead of 3 due to the lag..
something that i wanted to point out during wt actually... -
Date: Sat, Jan 3 2009 21:37:10
PSH was crazy... really innovative too...
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Date: Sat, Jan 3 2009 22:18:33QUOTE (ultimatsz @ Jan 3 2009, 09:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>dont see the hands.. see the forearm instead.. very obvious. but if the camera lagged... his hand wouldnt skipped this much. also the pen will not look smooth. also if he did a triple bust it probably meant that he did 4 instead of 3 due to the lag..
something that i wanted to point out during wt actually...
Yes. His whole body skips but the pen stays smooth...gif)
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Date: Sat, Jan 3 2009 22:21:28QUOTE (FripメECツ @ Jan 1 2009, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I don't want to cause any trouble...but take a look at 1:38 of the UPSB collab...>_>"
Oh shit, that actually does look edited...
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Date: Sun, Jan 4 2009 03:19:02
Oh man ... I promised myself that I wont replying on that "lagg-editing-cheating" at ChauTran's Part (cause it annoys me that sb. could belive that ChauTran is doing sth. like cheating (he is pro, he does not need that) anyways ...
Its definitly strange that this lagg happend twice a time in a very hard part in ChauTran's spinning, so it looks kinda obvious that he is cheating cause he didn't make it ...
But if you look closely @ each part what is not moving fast (body, table, seat, left hand, cam angle, "sitting-angle"), and I looked closely every 15frames of these 0,25-0,5seconds these parts are not even changing place for 1cm or sth. its nearly the same .... what I want say is that that part of lagging is a normal lagg (just to a bad time) or its a professional maked cheated edited part! If you dont belive try it on yourself, make a double Ta and try to edit a third or fourth one to it (of course with body in the cam view) and you will notice its not possible to get such a cheating result as ChauTran ... cause it isnt cheated its a normal lagg O_o
(It would take more time to edit/cheat, than easily refilm it (and I do not think so because ChauTran is in my Team))
sorry for that post ... but I hope you understood me >_> -
Date: Sun, Jan 4 2009 03:26:54
It's cool. It's cool
/E GPC chat..jetz? XD -
Date: Sun, Jan 4 2009 03:27:07
UPSB did really nice and used the same music from my solo =P lol
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Date: Sun, Jan 4 2009 17:03:55QUOTE (Minwoo @ Jan 4 2009, 11:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Oh man ... I promised myself that I wont replying on that "lagg-editing-cheating" at ChauTran's Part (cause it annoys me that sb. could belive that ChauTran is doing sth. like cheating (he is pro, he does not need that) anyways ...
Its definitly strange that this lagg happend twice a time in a very hard part in ChauTran's spinning, so it looks kinda obvious that he is cheating cause he didn't make it ...
But if you look closely @ each part what is not moving fast (body, table, seat, left hand, cam angle, "sitting-angle"), and I looked closely every 15frames of these 0,25-0,5seconds these parts are not even changing place for 1cm or sth. its nearly the same .... what I want say is that that part of lagging is a normal lagg (just to a bad time) or its a professional maked cheated edited part! If you dont belive try it on yourself, make a double Ta and try to edit a third or fourth one to it (of course with body in the cam view) and you will notice its not possible to get such a cheating result as ChauTran ... cause it isnt cheated its a normal lagg O_o
(It would take more time to edit/cheat, than easily refilm it (and I do not think so because ChauTran is in my Team))
sorry for that post ... but I hope you understood me >_>
erm.. i understand what you mean.. but you should know that many people have animated gif of a looped and repeated spinning which is smooth.. which is easily done. i have examples.. but my internet is not very good. so i could not upload for now. but you should get my point..
it is actually pretty simple.. if i were to edit to his standard it is fairly easy.. to be completely in sync is quite hard.. his is actually easy to create.. i will see what i can do when i m free to perform a similar move..
i agree to the lagged issue.. however,if it were to lag, his forearm big shift, then his pen would have a big shift too, but why is that not the case?
it appears to be a half professional editing, with smooth pen editing but bad hand editing..
similar to wt video.
like i said on the previous post. if that lag is really a lag his 3 bust will probably meant that he did 4 bust instead. which is awesome. something like that...
to be honest.. it is easier to make a video edited 6 cont bak with 10 bust than to revideo it if you usually hit 4-5 only -
Date: Sun, Jan 4 2009 17:50:24
wow.. lol i thought the first 2-4 busts were real..
then i remembered your post.
and realised it's repeated lol... -
Date: Sun, Jan 4 2009 18:12:00
@ultimatsz:
yes I understood you and got your point how you showed, its really easy to animate/edit, cause it mostly just show his arm and REPEATS one part for some more times, but there is a different to ChauTran, I still belive its hard to edit sth. if nearly your whole body is in it (sit on the same place/angle) and the other different is that that ChauTran's Lagg is not repeatet for more times every FL. Tas looks different, not as in your video perfectly the same!
Anyways we both dont know what is the truth, only ChauTran knows it, so there is no more sense in discussing about that, I had allready said that I promised myself not replying of that ... cause there is really no sense without we can prove sth. so I am sorry for started this conversation
greetz
Minwoo -
Date: Mon, Jan 5 2009 15:59:08
I really like JEB's and UPSB's vids.
Very nice. -
Date: Thu, Jan 8 2009 02:24:57
I was breaking ChauTran's video down... if you watch closely... you can see his hand move in the jump... which means either
1. ChauTran has really fast reactions
2. His camera lagged. -
Date: Thu, Jan 8 2009 02:35:10QUOTE (Fall @ Jan 7 2009, 07:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I was breaking ChauTran's video down... if you watch closely... you can see his hand move in the jump... which means either
1. ChauTran has really fast reactions
2. His camera lagged.
Did you even read the thread before you posted? ... We noticed that like 2 pages ago XD -
Date: Thu, Jan 8 2009 15:09:32
Answer and Minwoo's combo blew me.. I liked UPSB's editing a lot. Jeb's editing was good too.
UPSB and JEB were good overall.. -
Date: Fri, Jan 9 2009 12:11:01
well... nice collab here...
upsb and kpsa was my favorite:
upsb: awesome editing, spinning, and music (remix of big blue <3)
kpsa: awesome spinning too, sound... o_O
jeb:... not really good i think :/
psh: hmmm wtf? it's more like a PS promo than a asian cup final round >_>, no that was just too much. bleh. -
Date: Fri, Jan 9 2009 12:19:26
@gollumsk:
That was not exactly a remix of big blue... on Pholord's vid it's big blue, and then it changes to AAA by DM Ashura... -
Date: Fri, Jan 9 2009 12:33:43QUOTE (gollumsk8 @ Jan 9 2009, 06:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>well... nice collab here...
upsb and kpsa was my favorite:
upsb: awesome editing, spinning, and music (remix of big blue <3)
kpsa: awesome spinning too, sound... o_O
jeb:... not really good i think :/
psh: hmmm wtf? it's more like a PS promo than a asian cup final round >_>, no that was just too much. bleh.
I agree with the psh part. I just hope it doesnt get chosen as best because it's got a valuable message, etc etc.. -
Date: Sat, Jan 10 2009 05:40:09
It won't be, Zombo releases the judging in detail so you can see who won and how etc.
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Date: Sat, Jan 10 2009 06:23:49QUOTE (Outsmash @ Jan 9 2009, 04:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I agree with the psh part. I just hope it doesnt get chosen as best because it's got a valuable message, etc etc..
I think you should go re-watch PSH's collab because IMO it was amazing in more respects than the one you mentioned. -
Date: Sat, Jan 10 2009 06:30:30QUOTE (AwonW @ Jan 10 2009, 12:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I think you should go re-watch PSH's collab because IMO it was amazing in more respects than the one you mentioned.
I really liked all of their spinning, especially Answer's but I think UPSB deserves it more than PSH (if PSH is rated higher in final results). -
Date: Sun, Jan 11 2009 13:04:38
when are results out?
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Date: Sun, Jan 11 2009 20:43:02
JEB's was amazing!!!!!!!! seven was so fast.......
upsb was not bad either, excited to see who wins -
Date: Thu, Jan 15 2009 23:23:34
asking for 3Shine, has this been forgotten or something? when can we be expecting the results?
if PDS judges are lacking again with the results, why even bother waiting for them? -
Date: Thu, Jan 15 2009 23:29:45QUOTE (AyySoLo @ Jan 15 2009, 06:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>asking for 3Shine, has this been forgotten or something? when can we be expecting the results?
if PDS judges are lacking again with the results, why even bother waiting for them?
also missing HKPSA. -
Date: Fri, Jan 16 2009 01:41:38
wth....they hosted this and now they are lacking, too......i'll ask about it
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Date: Fri, Jan 16 2009 06:22:10
hm.....
about chautran.
i purposely didn't post info about chautan's editing issue in KPSA to see if they notice it.
they noticed it now and they are having questions and debates about it among themselves.
and i read one of the member's opinion about the editing and i agree with it too
when chau's video looks edited.
his crease in his t-shirt also changes. and also if his cam lagged the whole screen should lagg resulting a very short blink of an eye stop.
also, although nothing else changed but his hand position is way off after the lag. -
Date: Sat, Jan 17 2009 18:41:53
UPSB got the great edit
but PSH got the creative=]