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Naming Committee / [project][5.10] Cobra Bite & Twisted Cobra Bite
Discuss "new" tricks and the names
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Date: Sat, Jun 16 2007 07:31:18
Ok, It seems there's no "new trick" topic in the NC, and I consider these two as quite developped, so I don't think they belong to the "What am I doing ?" thread.
As I'm using those two tricks sometimes in my videos ( for example in the WT ) and as I've never neither seen it before nor met anybody who knew the moves before I teach them about, I'm posting those tricks here.
I'd like to discuss their status, are they new tricks, do you feel the names I've chosen convenient, etc.
Cobra Bite & Twisted Cobra Bite tutorial :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfmWwhyNAKc
http://media.putfile.com/Video-Tutorial--C...sted-Cobra-Bite
I think that if those tricks are offocialised, it opens a door upon a new kind of tricks, maybe some new family or something like that. it would be all about transfert from back to palm and palm to back of the hand.
N.B. : I've posted this already on FPSB too, mentionning the fact that names are not to be definitive.
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Original Thread -
Date: Tue, Jun 24 2008 15:34:50
Up of this topic to say that i've made a new video of the Twisted Cobra Bite explaining a bit more the REAL move ( cause I just realized how to do it right some days ago, thanks to Pyralux 's set of amazing videos : http://www.dailymotion.com/pyralux ) :
here, the final result : http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=JHmauqRU2As . -
Date: Wed, Jun 25 2008 07:53:18
Is this trick not just Backaround ~ Palmaround or Backaround ~ Wristaround (it's tricky to tell if it goes around the wrist or the hand).
I mean, it's a fantastic trick, really fantastic, however, I believe hybrid notation can be used to describe and should be used to describe it. -
Date: Thu, Jun 26 2008 01:10:51
I see the Cobra Bite as being a type of catch: pulling your hand back away from the pen, then going back and catching it. The original video could be Backaround 0.5 12-12 ~ Cobra Bite B-P.
Twisted Cobra Bite, as shown in the video, could be a hybrid of Backaround 0.5 12-12 ~ Handaround Reverse 0.5 B-P. -
Date: Sat, Jun 28 2008 01:23:29QUOTE (Fresh @ Jun 25 2008, 09:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Is this trick not just Backaround ~ Palmaround or Backaround ~ Wristaround (it's tricky to tell if it goes around the wrist or the hand).
I mean, it's a fantastic trick, really fantastic, however, I believe hybrid notation can be used to describe and should be used to describe it.
Yes you're totally right, hybrid notations should be used to describe it. When I came up with the concept, the notation hadn't sprung out already, so I precised the name "Cobra Bite" shouldn't be definitive, just in case, if needed. That name is only used in France, actually
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I forgot to mention in this new video that the backaround was only a mean to start the trick, in fact as Sketching says :QUOTE (sketching @ Jun 26 2008, 03:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I see the Cobra Bite as being a type of catch: pulling your hand back away from the pen, then going back and catching it. The original video could be Backaround 0.5 12-12 ~ Cobra Bite B-P.
Twisted Cobra Bite, as shown in the video, could be a hybrid of Backaround 0.5 12-12 ~ Handaround Reverse 0.5 B-P.
well, the Twisted Cobra Bite is only the spin & catch part too, the Backaround is only a way to start before the trick.
I used "Twisted" at that time, to designate the hand/wrist "torsion" used in the trick. If you have watched Pyralux's video, you can see he uses a lot of these "torsions", so maybe the creation a modifier to designate the presence, during a trick, of that type of torsion, could be useful ( I used "Twisted", but it's nothing official ). The other way to see this is to consider the "torsion" as a simple style effect, that shouldn't be notated in a breakdown. In this case, there's no need to differency Cobra Bite and Twisted Cobra Bite.