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Pen Modifications / Mod Pros & Cons

describe the ups and downs on mods here...

  1. SpinDemPens
    Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 03:33:29

    HI...

    This post is JUST FOR COMPARING & CONTRASTiNG MODS

    why not start out with commsas and Dr.KTs? happy.gif

    add on more mods to the list of comparings as time goes on cool.gif

    u can also post recommendations for what style and preference each mod should be spun for

  2. Glamouraz
    Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 03:42:43

    comssas are light.

    Dr. KTs are heavy.

  3. Sadistic
    Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 03:46:30

    Comssa is not a mod....

    EDIT: and not spelled "Commsa"

  4. sangara
    Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 03:48:38

    QUOTE (Sadistic @ Jan 11 2009, 07:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Comssa is not a mod....

    EDIT: and not spelled "Commsa"



    Err yea it is? You take 2 Sign pens and take a cap from one and put it on the other...

  5. SJ
    Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 04:15:22

    i think hes saying a comssa isnt a mod
    if u put another cap there then its a mod
    but a comssa is just a pen

  6. Glamouraz
    Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 04:18:53

    how's this! how's this!

    a comssa mod.

  7. LenZ
    Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 04:59:59

    comssa mod
    pros:Light, nice for beginners.
    cons:not enough momentum for some tricks until you get some hgg tips on there, comssas not easily found in america
    Dr. KT
    pros:good momentum, easy to do tricks with
    cons:heavy, not good for begininers. it will mess with your ability to spin lighter mods later,expensive, parts are in japan and a bit hard to find in america

    Metallic comssa mod
    pros:better momentum then comssa, not too heavy but not too light
    cons: comssa are rare in america, HGGs are also rare sort of

  8. sangara
    Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 05:50:50

    QUOTE (SJ @ Jan 11 2009, 08:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    i think hes saying a comssa isnt a mod
    if u put another cap there then its a mod
    but a comssa is just a pen


    What the... the Comssa is made up of 2 Dong-A computer sign pens, since when did we start calling the actual pens a Comssa?

  9. Timothy Wu
    Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 05:58:25

    QUOTE (LenZ @ Jan 12 2009, 12:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    comssa mod
    pros:Light, nice for beginners.
    cons:not enough momentum for some tricks until you get some hgg tips on there, comssas not easily found in america
    Dr. KT
    pros:good momentum, easy to do tricks with
    cons:heavy, not good for begininers. it will mess with your ability to spin lighter mods later,expensive, parts are in japan and a bit hard to find in america

    Metallic comssa mod
    pros:better momentum then comssa, not too heavy but not too light
    cons: comssa are rare in america, HGGs are also rare sort of






    How about dr. CTs?

  10. TRoc
    Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 06:01:54

    QUOTE (Timothy Wu @ Jan 12 2009, 12:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    How about dr. CTs?

    A Dr. CT is basically the same as a Dr. KT
    As instead of A KeiTyo body, you use a Color Twin body.

  11. Charlie
    Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 08:07:45

    RSVP MX is a medium weighted pen. Comssa Metallic is a medium Weighted Pen. BICs are light. Unmodded Comssas are light. Dr. KTs are heavy.

    There's not much to say about the mods. Mods are...mods. They're meant to be modified to your liking -- be it heavy/short/long/light. Do what you want with them.

  12. luke
    Date: Tue, Jan 13 2009 01:09:12

    1337mx

    pros
    its supposedly "1337"
    super heavy
    lots of grips

    cons
    uneven grips on each side
    like 1 cm spinning room
    super heavy, no momentum

    Buster CYL

    Pros
    made by Spinnerpeem, extremely good spinner
    material easy to get
    easy to make
    customizable easily
    heavy, tons of momentum

    cons
    airfits are expensive
    too much momentum

  13. SpinDemPens
    Date: Tue, Jan 13 2009 01:11:00

    R-Stics are long and medium weighted...

    and U can stick an outsert on laugh.gif

  14. Santa
    Date: Tue, Jan 13 2009 02:29:53

    QUOTE (Glamouraz @ Jan 11 2009, 10:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    how's this! how's this!

    a comssa mod.

    grin.gif EPIC WIN

  15. Glamouraz
    Date: Tue, Jan 13 2009 11:10:31

    Original RSVP MX is back heavy and unbalanced.

    Waterfall mod is slightly longer than Dr. KT, weighs between metallic comssa and Dr. KT, and has a barrel thinner than Dr. KT. It's nice to use.

  16. UEDan
    Date: Tue, Jan 13 2009 11:54:28

    How many times must we go over this? There are no absolute pros and cons for a mod.
    Its all preference.

    Example:
    Person A - that mod is too expensive.
    Me - Fuck you, ya cunt! I'm rich! Nothing is expensive for me!

  17. SpinDemPens
    Date: Fri, Jan 16 2009 22:06:29

    Well... some people like planning b4 buying too...

    say you were a lumberjack... would you cut trees with a crafting knife or a chainsaw?

  18. Zombo
    Date: Fri, Jan 16 2009 22:57:32

    QUOTE (UEDan @ Jan 13 2009, 06:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    How many times must we go over this? There are no absolute pros and cons for a mod.
    Its all preference.

    Example:
    Person A - that mod is too expensive.
    Me - Fuck you, ya cunt! I'm rich! Nothing is expensive for me!


    ???

    a mod being too expensive is a con no matter if ur rich or poor... it all depends how much it affects you...

  19. sangara
    Date: Fri, Jan 16 2009 23:34:31

    QUOTE (Zombo @ Jan 16 2009, 02:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    ???

    a mod being too expensive is a con no matter if ur rich or poor... it all depends how much it affects you...


    He was making a sarcastic comment on how rich people act....

  20. rverse_x
    Date: Sat, Jan 17 2009 05:50:55

    either way.. here's my two cents.
    comSSa Metallic-
    pros- mediumweight, very balanced, excellent for tricks, can write (stuff an RSVP inktube into the comSSa body)
    cons- rare parts in USA, uses 2 ohmy.gif HGG tips.

    F1R3fly G3 mod
    pros- very heavy, good momentum, lots of spinning space. easily modifies from original version to be heavier, lighter. put many inserts in there, customizible
    cons- ~ hard to make (hate cutting Dr. Grips), many parts, hard to get in US, cannot write (original version only)

    Ayatori Mod
    Pros- easy to mod, can cut the grip, also can put like 3 inserts- easily customizable. pretty heavy, OK momentum
    cons- hard to get a really neat and cool grip cut. thin barrel, little spinning space (compared to other pens that I have). hard to get to the writing tip( have to take off the hyper jell grip in order to)

    MP FX
    Pros- kinda easy to mod, most parts (exc. comSSa barrel and HGG tip) easily obtainable in US, OK momentum, little heavier than mediumweight. mechanical pencil, enough said
    cons- the tip of the pentel sharp falling on the concrete and rendering the MP part useless. lead breaks easily if you are spinning while lead is coming out of the tip (if dropped). outserts are kinda... I don't get them

    *off topic: how DO you get an outsert on, and how do you cover it (to make it smooth)

  21. Aries
    Date: Sat, Jan 17 2009 06:41:40

    Here are some famous mods.

    RSVP MX
    Pros:
    -light
    -high customization
    -Few materials
    -Materials are quite easy to find
    -back heavy
    -accommodates inserts
    -easy to create
    -one-sided
    Cons:
    -light
    -back heavy
    -one-sided

    Comssa Mod
    Pros:
    -easy to mod
    -double-sided
    -can be made metallic
    -very customizable
    -COG=COP
    -light/heavy
    Cons:
    -double-sided
    -light/heavy
    -common material used
    -cheap

    Dr. KT
    Pros:
    -heavy
    -great momentum
    -double-sided
    -customizable
    -easy to make
    Cons:
    -heavy
    -double-sided
    -expensive
    -hurts people(only for pussies)

  22. SJ
    Date: Sat, Jan 17 2009 07:13:08

    aries, your pros and cons are too biased

  23. Loanshark
    Date: Sat, Jan 17 2009 15:14:18

    Since pros and cons in general are always biased, why make this thread in the first place?

    Many new people here are starting to spin Dr. Kt's and Buster Cyl's.

    From me, cons for those pens would be that they are too heavy and they'll break your fingers.

    However, a lot of people say that they spin will because they are heavy.



    POINT: Your pro might be someone else's con and vice-versa.


    /useless thread

  24. Zweebna
    Date: Sat, Jan 17 2009 17:05:29

    Buster CYL
    Pros:
    - heavy
    Cons:
    -Arthritis

  25. SpinDemPens
    Date: Sat, Jan 17 2009 21:39:23

    Then this thread defines the nitty gritty details of each mod ohmy.gif

  26. SpinDemPens
    Date: Thu, Jan 22 2009 02:10:05

    ...THIS LIST needs more mods to compare... KEEEP ADDING TO THE POST PPL!!!

    lets try some that's more popular throughout and the less common in the world. smile.gif


  27. KimD
    Date: Thu, Jan 22 2009 02:16:09

    pros and cons for pens will always be different, even for the same pen because people have different prefrences and different styles, comforts, etc...

  28. Glamouraz
    Date: Thu, Jan 22 2009 11:22:40

    less common pens?

    um.. waterfall mod.. idk lol..

    Well i guess when imatt releases his mod reviews this thread may not be needed anymore unless he releases them here.

  29. SpinDemPens
    Date: Mon, Jan 26 2009 22:15:35

    QUOTE (KimD @ Jan 21 2009, 08:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    pros and cons for pens will always be different, even for the same pen because people have different prefrences and different styles, comforts, etc...


    how about adding recommendations in this topic for preferences and style types each mod should be spun for?

  30. Loanshark
    Date: Thu, Jan 29 2009 11:30:54

    QUOTE (luke @ Jan 12 2009, 08:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    1337mx

    pros
    its supposedly "1337"
    super heavy
    lots of grips

    cons
    uneven grips on each side
    like 1 cm spinning room
    super heavy, no momentum

    Buster CYL

    Pros
    made by Spinnerpeem, extremely good spinner
    material easy to get
    easy to make
    customizable easily
    heavy, tons of momentum

    cons
    airfits are expensive
    too much momentum


    1337mx

    Pros:
    nothing

    Cons:
    too many grips
    too heavy
    small spinning space


    Buster Cyl

    Pros:
    nothing

    Cons:
    too heavy
    airfits can't be commonly found

    QUOTE (rverse_x @ Jan 17 2009, 12:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    either way.. here's my two cents.
    comSSa Metallic-
    pros- mediumweight, very balanced, excellent for tricks, can write (stuff an RSVP inktube into the comSSa body)
    cons- rare parts in USA, uses 2 ohmy.gif HGG tips.

    F1R3fly G3 mod
    pros- very heavy, good momentum, lots of spinning space. easily modifies from original version to be heavier, lighter. put many inserts in there, customizible
    cons- ~ hard to make (hate cutting Dr. Grips), many parts, hard to get in US, cannot write (original version only)

    Ayatori Mod
    Pros- easy to mod, can cut the grip, also can put like 3 inserts- easily customizable. pretty heavy, OK momentum
    cons- hard to get a really neat and cool grip cut. thin barrel, little spinning space (compared to other pens that I have). hard to get to the writing tip( have to take off the hyper jell grip in order to)

    MP FX
    Pros- kinda easy to mod, most parts (exc. comSSa barrel and HGG tip) easily obtainable in US, OK momentum, little heavier than mediumweight. mechanical pencil, enough said
    cons- the tip of the pentel sharp falling on the concrete and rendering the MP part useless. lead breaks easily if you are spinning while lead is coming out of the tip (if dropped). outserts are kinda... I don't get them


    Comssa Metallic

    Pros:
    Medium-Heavy weight
    balances

    Cons: parts not in usa


    Firefly Mod

    Pros:
    nothing

    Cons:
    too heavy
    too much momentum
    too fragile
    many parts
    cant write


    Ayatori Mod:

    Pros:
    a cut grip

    Cons:
    too heavy
    too much momentum
    grip cuts are prone to ripping


    MPFX

    Pros:
    cheap to make
    easy access to parts
    MP

    Cons:
    nothing

    QUOTE (Aries @ Jan 17 2009, 01:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Here are some famous mods.

    RSVP MX
    Pros:
    -light
    -high customization
    -Few materials
    -Materials are quite easy to find
    -back heavy
    -accommodates inserts
    -easy to create
    -one-sided
    Cons:
    -light
    -back heavy
    -one-sided

    Comssa Mod
    Pros:
    -easy to mod
    -double-sided
    -can be made metallic
    -very customizable
    -COG=COP
    -light/heavy
    Cons:
    -double-sided
    -light/heavy
    -common material used
    -cheap

    Dr. KT
    Pros:
    -heavy
    -great momentum
    -double-sided
    -customizable
    -easy to make
    Cons:
    -heavy
    -double-sided
    -expensive
    -hurts people(only for pussies)


    RSVP MX

    Pros:
    medium weight
    only uses 2 pens
    dirt cheap
    easy to make

    Cons:
    back heavy


    DR KT

    Pros:
    you get to stab people in the eye

    Cons:
    too heavy
    too expensive
    too much momentum
    double sided



    Reason for post was to further show the uselessness of this thread.

  31. babypotter-
    Date: Thu, Jan 29 2009 16:07:16

    Ayatori Mod

    Pros :
    - heavy
    - nice momentum
    - great looking
    - pretty simple to make

    Cons :
    - the cap is easy to broke (it's maybe because i'm drop it a lot )
    - can't write

  32. arthurrhodes
    Date: Thu, Jan 29 2009 16:30:32

    @loanshark. how can a pen have too much momentum? ive never had that problem.

  33. Glamouraz
    Date: Thu, Jan 29 2009 17:20:21

    actually, an ayatori mod is writable from the back.

    Waterfall mod:

    Pros
    long (some like it long yeah)
    all white
    good momentum
    Quite a fair bit of spinning space
    Not too heavy

    Cons
    long (some like it short)

  34. Loanshark
    Date: Fri, Jan 30 2009 22:23:09

    QUOTE (babypotter- @ Jan 29 2009, 11:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Ayatori Mod

    Pros :
    - heavy
    - nice momentum
    - great looking
    - pretty simple to make

    Cons :
    - the cap is easy to broke (it's maybe because i'm drop it a lot )
    - can't write


    Ayatori Mod

    Pros:
    a cut grip

    Cons:
    too heavy
    too much momentum
    grip cuts are prone to ripping

    QUOTE (arthurrhodes @ Jan 29 2009, 11:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    @loanshark. how can a pen have too much momentum? ive never had that problem.



    When a pen is too heavy.

  35. SpinDemPens
    Date: Wed, Feb 4 2009 22:49:03

    sometimes ppl w/ stronger hands/fingers like super heavy stuff to spin with for the uber eeek.gif momentum

  36. Loanshark
    Date: Wed, Feb 4 2009 23:42:25

    QUOTE (SpinDemPens @ Feb 4 2009, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    sometimes ppl w/ stronger hands/fingers like super heavy stuff to spin with for the uber eeek.gif momentum


    Thank you, you've proved my point.

    /close thread

  37. J0SH
    Date: Fri, Feb 6 2009 09:32:28

    QUOTE (Glamouraz @ Jan 13 2009, 07:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Original RSVP MX is back heavy and unbalanced.

    Waterfall mod is slightly longer than Dr. KT, weighs between metallic comssa and Dr. KT, and has a barrel thinner than Dr. KT. It's nice to use.



    what the hell is a waterfall mod, show me the thread please

  38. riverboy
    Date: Fri, Feb 6 2009 12:48:35

    I don't think Mods have cons, IF They're COP/COG or atleast nearly COP/COG. Unlike the RSVP MX (original) which is very hard to spin with (for me) since it barely has momentum and its back heavy. facepalm.gif

  39. sangara
    Date: Fri, Feb 6 2009 18:11:05

    You guys don't get it, Loanshark was proving a point. A mod's pro's and con's are completely in the eye of the beholder. Basically you have to spin them to actually know what you like. There is no way to tell what pen should be used for what, let's take an easy one for example, like doing a thumbspin, most people, I'd bet 8/10, would probably suggest using a Grip Aviare right? Well look at sunrise he did a thumbspin 15.5 with a pencil, this just proves that in something like penspinning, mods have no limits on what can be done with them.

  40. SpinDemPens
    Date: Thu, Feb 12 2009 02:24:45

    QUOTE (sangara @ Feb 6 2009, 12:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    You guys don't get it, Loanshark was proving a point. A mod's pro's and con's are completely in the eye of the beholder. Basically you have to spin them to actually know what you like. There is no way to tell what pen should be used for what, let's take an easy one for example, like doing a thumbspin, most people, I'd bet 8/10, would probably suggest using a Grip Aviare right? Well look at sunrise he did a thumbspin 15.5 with a pencil, this just proves that in something like penspinning, mods have no limits on what can be done with them.


    this topic is for ppl that r planning to buy mods, but don't know whats "good" and whats "bad" about each one

  41. penmaster
    Date: Sat, Feb 14 2009 10:26:37

    what about an HS MX and a ENOT's RSVP mod?

  42. SpinDemPens
    Date: Mon, Feb 16 2009 03:40:28

    QUOTE (penmaster @ Feb 14 2009, 04:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    what about an HS MX and a ENOT's RSVP mod?


    he proves the worthiness of this topic. happyy.gif

    whats wrong with planning b4 buying?

  43. sangara
    Date: Mon, Feb 16 2009 03:43:01

    QUOTE (SpinDemPens @ Feb 15 2009, 07:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    he proves the worthiness of this topic. happyy.gif

    whats wrong with planning b4 buying?


    because I could make it go either way, there is no point.

  44. Loanshark
    Date: Mon, Feb 16 2009 03:59:15

    QUOTE (sangara @ Feb 15 2009, 10:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    because I could make it go either way, there is no point.


    Listen to this man. I can do it too.