UPSB v3
Battlezone / [Battle] penmaster versus Erirornal Kraione
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Date: Tue, Jan 13 2009 12:52:52
penmaster's video
Erirornal Kraione's video
Please comment with constructive critisism. Thank you. -
Date: Tue, Jan 13 2009 12:54:29
Wow amazing battle guys. Lol long combos for both XDDD
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Date: Tue, Jan 13 2009 13:02:33
penmaster needs a better cam, it really detracted a lot from the appeal, it makes your combo look all choppy, when it isn't
Eriror's, well, there isn't much to criticize about it, constructive or not. -
Date: Tue, Jan 13 2009 14:38:44
Eriror's combo to me should have more difficulty.
I'm not really that sure cuz of the quality of penmaster's cam, but its not that bad.
Both are good in smoothness.
Good job to both!
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Date: Tue, Jan 13 2009 14:54:14QUOTE (arnoldメDGN @ Jan 13 2009, 03:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Eriror's combo to me should have more difficulty.
Oh...? Ehm... sure, I guess. No cont busts or backs or Fl. TA's in it, I guess. So it's not difficult. -
Date: Tue, Jan 13 2009 14:58:31
Nulled. IMO, penmaster's finisher was better but I couldn't really see a few of his tricks due to his cam, but he looks pretty good
Eriror had nice arounds though. -
Date: Tue, Jan 13 2009 15:02:57QUOTE (Erirornal Kraione @ Jan 13 2009, 10:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Oh...? Ehm... sure, I guess. No cont busts or backs or Fl. TA's in it, I guess. So it's not difficult.
errr....even if you only did your arounds with your normal speed and fluidity I think it would have been more difficult then penmaster...sort of a strange battle if you ask me...
I enjoyed your linkages a lot Eriror, and I think the new pen adds to your style, The shadow fall is getting a bit old for you imo and your finisher could have been a lot more difficult though...oh, and sometimes it seems to me you do things like neosonic 34-t3 so fast it seems to take away a bit of the rythm. -
Date: Tue, Jan 13 2009 15:24:50
bleh, stop trying to find ways to put down EK's spinning, look closely, ull find dificulty... especially difficult in the fact that this was a 1 hour battle and he filmed in 1 attempt
as for the finisher... as little as u can see from penmaster's cam, he clearly does a double bust... and eriror's is more than just an aerial ext ta, its at least ext double fl ta vor something
shadow fall may be old, but so its twisted sonic, we still do that... shadow fall is just a harder old trick... if some1 else were to do it... wld u say "shadow fall is getting a bit old" for them? no
now that im done bitching at every1 else and their uneven standards, my own look
eriror had rape arounds and some tricky neobaks
although penmaster's combo looked smooth and fast... its no extra point if EK is just as fast and smooth
the battle came down to difficulty and EK won it with that... although its not his usual scary standard, its dam good for any1 on a 1st try
+1 EK -
Date: Tue, Jan 13 2009 18:05:26QUOTE (Pen Ninja @ Jan 13 2009, 07:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>bleh, stop trying to find ways to put down EK's spinning, look closely, ull find dificulty... especially difficult in the fact that this was a 1 hour battle and he filmed in 1 attempt
as for the finisher... as little as u can see from penmaster's cam, he clearly does a double bust... and eriror's is more than just an aerial ext ta, its at least ext double fl ta vor something
shadow fall may be old, but so its twisted sonic, we still do that... shadow fall is just a harder old trick... if some1 else were to do it... wld u say "shadow fall is getting a bit old" for them? no
now that im done bitching at every1 else and their uneven standards, my own look
eriror had rape arounds and some tricky neobaks
although penmaster's combo looked smooth and fast... its no extra point if EK is just as fast and smooth
the battle came down to difficulty and EK won it with that... although its not his usual scary standard, its dam good for any1 on a 1st try
+1 EK
No one ever said there wasn't any difficulty lol
There just wasn't as much.
I have to agree with Sadistic though, Shadow Fall is getting a bit old =\
I'm not voting yet because I cant see penmasters vid (I'm at school) but I will once I do.
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Date: Tue, Jan 13 2009 18:45:52
Strange battle. It's easy to tell that penmaster is outclassed.
Well, +1 Eri. -
Date: Tue, Jan 13 2009 19:16:49
Well Penmaster's vid just seemed like a typical I wanna say Korean but I guess now it's like a typical Thai combo. Almost everything was predictable so it was just kinda meh =/ . Eriror's vid I can't say was his best or ground breaking, but there were a few standouts, like his Fl TA Reverse ~> Neomidbak that was pretty sweet. The aerial was nothing really new but I'm going to have to vote for Eriror.
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Date: Tue, Jan 13 2009 23:38:39QUOTE (sangara @ Jan 13 2009, 12:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Well Penmaster's vid just seemed like a typical I wanna say Korean but I guess now it's like a typical Thai combo. Almost everything was predictable so it was just kinda meh =/ . Eriror's vid I can't say was his best or ground breaking, but there were a few standouts, like his Fl TA Reverse ~> Neomidbak that was pretty sweet. The aerial was nothing really new but I'm going to have to vote for Eriror.
couldnt agree more -
Date: Wed, Jan 14 2009 00:04:40QUOTE (Pen Ninja @ Jan 13 2009, 10:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>bleh, stop trying to find ways to put down EK's spinning, look closely, ull find dificulty... especially difficult in the fact that this was a 1 hour battle and he filmed in 1 attempt
shut the fuck up and read the first post? he asked for constructive criticism. -
Date: Wed, Jan 14 2009 09:43:10QUOTE (Sadistic @ Jan 14 2009, 08:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>shut the fuck up and read the first post? he asked for constructive criticism.
you shouldnt have to look that hard for constructive critisism -
Date: Wed, Jan 14 2009 09:47:55
thanks for owning him
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Date: Wed, Jan 14 2009 14:21:48
I feel sad for my teammate T_T he got owned badly and i didnt vote for him XD eriror's combo is better and as for pen master he needs a better cam, it ruins his vid I cant see some of the trick he is doing
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Date: Wed, Jan 14 2009 15:56:29QUOTE (Pen Ninja @ Jan 14 2009, 05:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>you shouldnt have to look that hard for constructive critisism
wtf are you talking about my criticism isn't even rude? Eriror does do shadow falls too often imo, Eriror said himself that he did not add enough difficulty and rather than his usual air bust~>bust, he just did a air bust~>catch for his finisher, and regardless of how much of a fanboy you may be Ninja, not all of his tricks are perfect. -
Date: Wed, Jan 14 2009 17:53:50
Eriror was WAYYY better. A lot more difficulty... a LOT MORE. penmaster's was nothing special.
Still no black MSXA
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Date: Wed, Jan 14 2009 22:28:25
can i vote?
i'l go for EK
he truly dominate this one
as for pen master i appreciate the effort for having the balls (guts i mean) for Challenging EK for a battle
well Phil don't really have pro spinner that much as country has PS is just blooming for us
looking forward for a better PSer this 09
im proud of you Pen Master
PROUD to be PINOY -
Date: Thu, Jan 15 2009 04:56:04
penmaster just had suicide..lol..peace!
but still penmaster did a great job. -
Date: Fri, Jan 16 2009 00:06:59
null. I think i would have voted for penmaster...but his quality killed it. and EK's style seems...different...
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Date: Sat, Jan 17 2009 11:15:32
Eriror is much better for sure...although his tricks are not too much difficult but his style can linkages them to be a perfect combo
So+1 Eriror
But nice pen master... I think u r so confident because u surprisingly wanted to challenge the best spinner in the world - Eriror
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Date: Sat, Jan 24 2009 06:08:03
+1 for eriror.
pretty combo so far
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Date: Sat, Jan 31 2009 05:20:55
I hated penmasters combo for some reason... no offense... it was just to obvious... basic stuff like bakfall and sonics... not a whole lot of appeal.
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Date: Sat, Jan 31 2009 05:27:47
i liked both combos, especially erirors, but it might have been just because of the better lighting than his usual vids. as for penmaster, keep it up, but i dont think eriror was a good match for a battle
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Date: Sat, Jan 31 2009 09:21:41
Eriror ftw.
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Date: Sat, Jan 31 2009 13:42:11
penmaster got owned. LOL. penmaster's combo looked nice but of still +1 eriror
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Date: Sat, Jan 31 2009 17:18:32QUOTE (Izzo @ Jan 15 2009, 06:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>can i vote?
i'l go for EK
he truly dominate this one
as for pen master i appreciate the effort for having the balls (guts i mean) for Challenging EK for a battle
well Phil don't really have pro spinner that much as country has PS is just blooming for us
looking forward for a better PSer this 09
im proud of you Pen Master
PROUD to be PINOY
haha....your right. it takes BALLS to challenge Eriror.
and....yeah. proud to be pinoy. -
Date: Sat, Feb 14 2009 11:41:35
Both combos were good but I'll still say +1 errior
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Date: Sat, Feb 14 2009 12:09:54
ehh....I don't think it's really right to be proud. penmaster did this for fun, not seriously.
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Date: Sat, Feb 14 2009 12:23:59
waddafuk!!!! 7/70 o.O?
but anyway, i didn't did it just for fun >_> -
Date: Sat, Feb 14 2009 20:30:37
1+ penmaster Eriror is a good spinner but i dont like his style.
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Date: Thu, Feb 19 2009 00:23:24
+ Eriror
Perfect smoothness, speed, and variety (as usual)
Penmaster, good combo as well, but you should get a higher quality cam. -
Date: Mon, Feb 23 2009 12:18:57
this was obviously eriror's from the start.
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Date: Sat, May 16 2009 09:43:11
+1 eriror.ur damm good!
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Date: Sun, May 17 2009 00:52:02
+1 eriror no question.
penmaster needs a better cam but the combos were on two completly different levels -
Date: Sun, May 17 2009 02:29:41
Personally i think, since eriror is one of my ps idols, he had the better combo. However, to me it seems like he has been doing the same thing since 2007.
I'm pretty sure i have watched all of his session videos and I haven't seen much variety in his combos. It's probably just me.
Penmaster's combo was spectacular and that was a nice finisher.
But......1+ eriror
It was a landslide. -
Date: Sun, May 17 2009 03:03:17QUOTE (haha_21 @ Jan 14 2009, 09:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>penmaster just had suicide..lol..peace!
but still penmaster did a great job.
i sorta thought of that too when i was clicking the thread (no offense to any who might think it is)
penmaster did awesome, but Eriror just...pwned
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Date: Sun, May 17 2009 03:32:16
LOL
nice revival dude -
Date: Sun, May 17 2009 04:04:46QUOTE (Abdul R @ May 16 2009, 07:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Personally i think, since eriror is one of my ps idols, he had the better combo. However, to me it seems like he has been doing the same thing since 2007.
I'm pretty sure i have watched all of his session videos and I haven't seen much variety in his combos. It's probably just me.
Penmaster's combo was spectacular and that was a nice finisher.
But......1+ eriror
It was a landslide.
Either you're not looking hard enough or you don't have enough ps experience.
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Date: Sun, May 17 2009 04:10:34QUOTE (AwonW @ May 16 2009, 08:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Either you're not looking hard enough or you don't have enough ps experience.
neither. but as I said before probably just me. But no one in the world will ever have enough ps experience, after all there is always something new to learn.
2 pens + 1 hand anyone? -
Date: Sun, May 17 2009 04:42:02
Erirornal did a good job
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Date: Sun, May 17 2009 04:53:27QUOTE (Abdul R @ May 16 2009, 09:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>neither. but as I said before probably just me. But no one in the world will ever have enough ps experience, after all there is always something new to learn.
2 pens + 1 hand anyone?
Wtf? I said "enough", that doesn't mean "everything". Just because there's more to learn doesn't mean there's no such thing as having enough experience to see the things eri does. -
Date: Sun, May 17 2009 05:03:33QUOTE (Abdul R @ May 16 2009, 07:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Personally i think, since eriror is one of my ps idols, he had the better combo. However, to me it seems like he has been doing the same thing since 2007.
I'm pretty sure i have watched all of his session videos and I haven't seen much variety in his combos. It's probably just me.
It's just you. Most people who just started pen spinning base usually judge videos by the spinner's style. Eriror, to me, has a great, solid style but i see no similarity in his videos trick-based wise. -
Date: Sun, May 17 2009 17:44:36QUOTE (CaliMartinio @ May 16 2009, 10:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>It's just you. Most people who just started pen spinning base usually judge videos by the spinner's style. Eriror, to me, has a great, solid style but i see no similarity in his videos trick-based wise.
thanks.anyways, as i said before , its just me.
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Date: Tue, May 26 2009 04:48:48
Penmaster:
Smoothness 6/10
Difficulty 6/10
Effectiveness 7/10
Creativity 6/10
Overall 25/40
Erirornal Kraione:
Smoothness 10/10
Difficulty 9/10
Effectiveness 8/10
Creativity 7/10
Overall 36/40
+1 Erirornal Kraione -
Date: Tue, May 26 2009 22:18:53
This battle is from January, why is it still up?