UPSB v3

Advanced Tricks / New Trick(s) and/or Concept

Pull Spin Concept, Air Clap, Swing, Pen Around!

  1. Outsmash
    Date: Fri, Jan 16 2009 09:26:09

    I just compiled four of my new tricks/concept here:

    Air Clap:

    It's a two handed aerial that involves a "clap" like motion.
    Video shows you:
    - Air Clap
    .- Air Clap with slo-mo.
    - Air Clap used in a combo.


    Swing:

    It's a two handed wiper that involves a "swing" like motion. It can be performed continuosly and with an aerial.
    Video shows you:
    - Swing.
    - Swing with slo-mo.


    Pen Around:

    It's a 2p1h trick that involves one pen to go around another.
    Video shows you:
    - Pen Around
    - Pen Around with slo-mo.
    - Double Pen Around.
    - Double Pen Around with slo-mo.


    Pull Spin Concept:

    This is a concept that requires one hand to "pull" the pen on (top of) the other making it spin. It can be done anywhere on the hand. eg: Top, TIS, Scissor, etc.
    Video shows you:
    - Pull Spin Concept on top of the hand.
    - Pull Spin Concept on top of the hand with slo-mo.


    So tell me whether anything I made is new.

  2. Freeman
    Date: Fri, Jan 16 2009 10:10:20

    I have done the "Air Clap" before:





    And I have seen the "Swing" and the "Pen Around" before too.

    And the "Pull Spin" it's not new at all, similar to the Palm Spin with hand impulsion.

  3. i.suk.at.everything
    Date: Fri, Jan 16 2009 10:30:05

    interesting concepts.

    sorry but i think all of them have been done before. good ideas though smile.gif


  4. Zombo
    Date: Fri, Jan 16 2009 12:37:11

    ive seen pen around and pull spin before

    but good job

  5. Betakuwe
    Date: Fri, Jan 16 2009 14:47:26

    they dont give the awe
    nice tho

  6. Outsmash
    Date: Fri, Jan 16 2009 14:55:13

    Yea.. I've seen Pen Around before but not Double Pen Around. I've never seen Swing or Pull Spin before though. Pull Spin could be a new concept IMO.

  7. Freeman
    Date: Fri, Jan 16 2009 15:16:07

    I'm sure Key3 and Pudels Kern did the "Swing" before. I don't remember in which combo did it Key3, but I think Pudels did it in the final of the Bic European Awards.

    Btw, I was wondering if I can present the Air Clap as a new trick.

  8. Sadistic
    Date: Fri, Jan 16 2009 15:16:28

    "Swing" looks very much like the two handed wiper.

  9. Outsmash
    Date: Fri, Jan 16 2009 15:17:48

    QUOTE (Freeman @ Jan 16 2009, 09:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I'm sure Key3 and Pudels Kern did the "Swing" before. I don't remember in which combo did it Key3, but I think Pudels did it in the final of the Bic European Awards.

    Btw, I was wondering if I can present the Air Clap as a new trick.


    Can I credit for naming it atleast?

    @Sadistic: thats what it's supposed to be.

  10. Freeman
    Date: Fri, Jan 16 2009 15:38:08

    QUOTE (Outsmash @ Jan 16 2009, 04:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Can I credit for naming it atleast?


    Sure, but I thought of that name too biggrin.gif

  11. Outsmash
    Date: Fri, Jan 16 2009 15:50:55

    QUOTE (Freeman @ Jan 16 2009, 10:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Sure, but I thought of that name too biggrin.gif


    You're wish.

  12. Resonance
    Date: Fri, Jan 16 2009 16:09:35

    A double handed wiper, done by Key3:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkr4uC30NR4
    1:42

    and pull spin doesn't look really different than a aplm spin done with a hand pulse, for example....
    not trying to get you down though, keep trying thumb.gif

  13. Sakarana
    Date: Fri, Jan 16 2009 16:19:31

    QUOTE (Resonance @ Jan 16 2009, 11:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    A double handed wiper, done by Key3:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkr4uC30NR4
    1:42

    and pull spin doesn't look really different than a aplm spin done with a hand pulse, for example....
    not trying to get you down though, keep trying thumb.gif

    What about Toro ? tongue.gif

    He also did it many times

  14. sangara
    Date: Fri, Jan 16 2009 17:54:41

    QUOTE (Sakarana @ Jan 16 2009, 08:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    What about Toro ? tongue.gif

    He also did it many times


    Yea but I think Key3 is given the credit here.

    But Outsmash, why does it seem to me that you're just looking for something to be like "Oh I named that" or "Oh yea I invented that" . I mean between this and your "Magical Penspinning Concept". I think I'm just trying to say that; Stop just looking for something for the sake of looking for it. I also have to say that it's obvious that you don't watch a wide range of videos. I mean just the "Swing" it's self. I mean from Key3's unnofficial solo, that's been around since April, and he probably did it months before that, I can't say the exact first time I saw it but you get the idea. So please stop just looking for something to call your own.

  15. Charlie
    Date: Fri, Jan 16 2009 21:03:40

    I've gotta agree with sangara with this. And I've seen all of these done before, except the air clap. But nice try.

    And no, you don't get to name it. The true creator of the trick has rights to naming.

  16. i.suk.at.everything
    Date: Fri, Jan 16 2009 22:30:04

    QUOTE (Charlie @ Jan 17 2009, 08:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    And no, you don't get to name it. The true creator of the trick has rights to naming.


    agreed. but then, the true creator/s does not seem to have named those tricks. what happens now? do they remain unnamed? (probably the case)

    pull spin already has a name, e.g. thumbindexspin with left hand impulse etc.
    the double handed wiper can be broken down. (not sure exactly what it is meant to be called...) needs 2 handed notations


  17. Freeman
    Date: Fri, Jan 16 2009 22:41:10

    Maybe Wiper 11?

    Like Two Finger Twirls.

    Hmm so if I am the creator of "Air Clap" I should name it. Probably I will use that name.

  18. Shadowserpant
    Date: Fri, Jan 16 2009 23:34:09

    all old

    about the naming, these things dont even need new names, so idk what the problem is
    a 1p2h notation is in progress, ill bring it up again
    and.. yeah... these are all old.

  19. FrozenIce
    Date: Fri, Jan 16 2009 23:51:16

    Interesting concepts. thumb.gif

    They may not be new, but no one uses them much anyways.

  20. Outsmash
    Date: Sat, Jan 17 2009 08:21:16

    QUOTE (sangara @ Jan 16 2009, 11:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Yea but I think Key3 is given the credit here.

    But Outsmash, why does it seem to me that you're just looking for something to be like "Oh I named that" or "Oh yea I invented that" . I mean between this and your "Magical Penspinning Concept". I think I'm just trying to say that; Stop just looking for something for the sake of looking for it. I also have to say that it's obvious that you don't watch a wide range of videos. I mean just the "Swing" it's self. I mean from Key3's unnofficial solo, that's been around since April, and he probably did it months before that, I can't say the exact first time I saw it but you get the idea. So please stop just looking for something to call your own.


    These are tricks that are not seen often and are not found easily and yes, I do not watch a WIDE range of videos. Swing is like a trick a person generally does when (s)he doesn't even know about PS. I'm trying to come around with new ideas/concepts and I will keep coming up with them. My past "new trick" projects were just hybrids/tricks which are commonly used or can be broken down but this time I tried to do something different, except for Pen Around though. And according to how much I know (or you), Freeman is the first guy to do the Air Clap. If you know a guy who has done it before, tell me. So I asked Freeman wheter "IF" he is the inventor and plans on using the name "Air Clap" can i get the credit for naming it. Somewhat like with Waterfall and Eso. Me and him had a little discussion too and now i'ts upto him cuz even he had thought of a name similar to it. Magical Pen Spinning Concept was something no one had seen before and I'm sure lots of people liked it (may it be people in/out of UPSB). le0n has done stuff before but that particular trick was new. I'm planning to release more Magical videos too.

    These may be old but It's seldom seen in videos which is why I proposed them. There are spinners who haven't seen this.
    Swing --> Common
    Air Clap --> New and maybe a few people have done it.
    Pen Around --> Not that common. Only done when 2p1h spinning (which is again seldom seen).
    Pull Spin --> Just figured out it ocomes under Assisted Spinning Concpet (Which is again rare).

  21. Shadowserpant
    Date: Sat, Jan 17 2009 08:29:37

    well you NEED to watch more videos, before you start looking around for new tricks

  22. SJ
    Date: Sat, Jan 17 2009 09:00:56

    QUOTE (Outsmash @ Jan 16 2009, 06:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Yea.. I've seen Pen Around before but not Double Pen Around. I've never seen Swing or Pull Spin before though. Pull Spin could be a new concept IMO.

    your point? its like saying ive seen bakfall but not bakfall 1.5

    QUOTE (Outsmash @ Jan 17 2009, 12:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    These are tricks that are not seen often and are not found easily and yes, I do not watch a WIDE range of videos. Swing is like a trick a person generally does when (s)he doesn't even know about PS.

    These may be old but It's seldom seen in videos which is why I proposed them. There are spinners who haven't seen this.
    Swing --> Common
    Air Clap --> New and maybe a few people have done it.
    Pen Around --> Not that common. Only done when 2p1h spinning (which is again seldom seen).
    Pull Spin --> Just figured out it ocomes under Assisted Spinning Concpet (Which is again rare).

    uh..... so youre saying key3 doesnt know about PS? the hell
    quite frankly, i dont even see people who dont spin do the "swing"
    and PLEASE watch more videos
    it just seems like youre only desperate to take credit for something that youre so desperate to "create"

  23. Sian_ing
    Date: Sat, Jan 17 2009 09:12:43

    no offence but air clap looks so stupid mellow.gif

    any aerial trick would look better than that

  24. Outsmash
    Date: Sat, Jan 17 2009 09:59:11

    @SJ: yea.. Pen Around and Double Pen Around.. stupid ..sorry.
    wtf?? I never said key3 doesn't know spinning.. """I""" see a lot of people who don't PS that can do swing.
    These tricks are seldom seen which is why I dont notice them. I cant watch all the videos.

    @all of you: If these aren't new, Just say so. I dont need you're Dumb Fucking comments.

    @Sian_ing: this wasn't aimed to look good.

  25. Zombo
    Date: Sat, Jan 17 2009 14:11:08

    the NC will usually review all new tricks to see if the name is appropriate.

  26. Outsmash
    Date: Sat, Jan 17 2009 15:17:31

    and also since all these tricks are not seen that often, I can't go looking for video that have them which is why I post them here and "ask" you guys whether it's new. You just need to say "no".

  27. Charlie
    Date: Sat, Jan 17 2009 18:12:55

    QUOTE (Outsmash @ Jan 17 2009, 01:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    @SJ: yea.. Pen Around and Double Pen Around.. stupid ..sorry.
    wtf?? I never said key3 doesn't know spinning.. """I""" see a lot of people who don't PS that can do swing.
    These tricks are seldom seen which is why I dont notice them. I cant watch all the videos.

    @all of you: If these aren't new, Just say so. I dont need you're Dumb Fucking comments.

    @Sian_ing: this wasn't aimed to look good.

    What "dumb fucking comments" are you talking about? No one flamed you for trying to claim rights to tricks that aren't your own. The only "dumb fucking comments" I see, are yours.

  28. AwonW
    Date: Sat, Jan 17 2009 18:38:06

    QUOTE (Outsmash @ Jan 17 2009, 01:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I dont need you're Dumb Fucking comments.

    It's your.

  29. sangara
    Date: Sat, Jan 17 2009 19:01:04

    I don't think you're getting what I'm trying to say. It's not about looking something just to look for it. So again it seems like to me that you are looking for something just to call your own. Please Outsmash do research, take a day, or a week for that matter and just watch videos. If you want innovative then check out people from JEB and FPSB, watch their collabs, solos etc. AREZERT is a great source, there is a wide variety of styles and creativity.

    And the "Magical Penspinning Concept" has been around for a while, even Pentrixter was doing it.

  30. Sadistic
    Date: Mon, Jan 19 2009 20:50:10

    imo "two handed wiper" or "wiper 11" is more appropriate then "swing"....

  31. Outsmash
    Date: Thu, Jan 22 2009 09:11:25

    I guess it's more appropriate bt Swing can be performed continuously.. Wiper can't. Anyways I didn't invent any of those. I still have more coming up wink.gif

  32. Antonio Garcia
    Date: Thu, Jan 22 2009 11:51:02

    QUOTE (Freeman @ Jan 16 2009, 05:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I have done the "Air Clap" before:





    And I have seen the "Swing" and the "Pen Around" before too.

    And the "Pull Spin" it's not new at all, similar to the Palm Spin with hand impulsion.

    Air Clap looks amazing, What trick was in second 5 in your vid?

  33. Freeman
    Date: Thu, Jan 22 2009 12:56:29

    That was a Palmhold

  34. Metalm3
    Date: Thu, Jan 22 2009 14:56:16

    QUOTE (Outsmash @ Jan 16 2009, 05:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    So tell me whether anything I made is new.


    Isn't this what he's trying to ask?

  35. Outsmash
    Date: Thu, Jan 22 2009 15:50:50

    My point exactly.

  36. Xero
    Date: Thu, Jan 22 2009 19:50:57

    Welcome to UPSB.
    I can see you're new here, but that's okay.

    We already have a thread dedicated to this sort of thing and it's called "What Am I Doing?"

    facepalm.gif

  37. Metalm3
    Date: Fri, Jan 23 2009 07:53:56

    QUOTE (Xero @ Jan 23 2009, 03:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Welcome to UPSB.
    I can see you're new here, but that's okay.

    We already have a thread dedicated to this sort of thing and it's called "What Am I Doing?"

    facepalm.gif


    Lol, thank you. biggrin.gif Didn't catch that thread stickied, my apologies. laugh.gif

  38. Outsmash
    Date: Fri, Jan 23 2009 08:54:08

    QUOTE (Xero @ Jan 23 2009, 01:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Welcome to UPSB.
    I can see you're new here, but that's okay.

    We already have a thread dedicated to this sort of thing and it's called "What Am I Doing?"

    facepalm.gif


    Were you directing that at me? confusedsmilie.gif If you did, these tricks are not official and they don't have names. If you didn't, never mind.

  39. Antonio Garcia
    Date: Fri, Jan 23 2009 09:18:43

    QUOTE
    swing for me isnt a nice trick.

  40. godspinz
    Date: Sun, Feb 8 2009 01:32:10

    i whacked myself in the 010 when i tried swing.. (Dr. KT)... just didnt work for me..... and yes i was wearing pants

    the other ones are not new at all.... but good job

  41. Tatemichi
    Date: Wed, Feb 11 2009 02:21:22

    um im pretty sure the "swing" was called the "thousand year killer" in a breakdown from the PSN 4th collab. Key3 performs it.

  42. sarugio1
    Date: Sat, Feb 27 2010 04:28:54

    i found it accidentaly. is't new?