UPSB v3

Heroes of Tomorrow / HoT Combos

Team thread to show off our combos for feedback

  1. Sankaku
    Date: Sat, Jan 17 2009 00:27:11

    Yeah it's all in the title.

    Just construictive criticism and positive feedback please.

    I made this for JC, mini combo =D

    THANKS FOR THE MSXA ^^

    And random pen test, so horrible T_T

  2. JC
    Date: Sat, Jan 17 2009 01:17:49

    hahaha, sankaku, your welcome happy.gif
    as for your spinning... i dunno what it is exactly, but it lacks energy i think.... =\ dunno if that's the best way to describe it >.< not the movement of the pen itself or anything... just your fingers... =\?

  3. Sankaku
    Date: Sat, Jan 17 2009 01:21:44

    QUOTE (JC @ Jan 16 2009, 05:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    hahaha, sankaku, your welcome happy.gif
    as for your spinning... i dunno what it is exactly, but it lacks energy i think.... =\ dunno if that's the best way to describe it >.< not the movement of the pen itself or anything... just your fingers... =\?

    which combo? they were both on the spot

  4. JC
    Date: Sat, Jan 17 2009 01:26:12

    hmm...i guess more so in the second one... and maybe it's not a lack of energy that i'm seeing... but just the small little fumbles... like in the second combo at.....
    00:04, 00:06, 00:16

    just those little things that don't work out cause of perhaps poor linkages...

  5. Sankaku
    Date: Sat, Jan 17 2009 01:29:11

    QUOTE (JC @ Jan 16 2009, 05:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    hmm...i guess more so in the second one... and maybe it's not a lack of energy that i'm seeing... but just the small little fumbles... like in the second combo at.....
    00:04, 00:06, 00:16

    just those little things that don't work out cause of perhaps poor linkages...

    yeah huroni didn't like that combo either, nor do i, and i just didn't link it smoothly

  6. Charlie
    Date: Sat, Jan 17 2009 18:19:18

    You have very relaxed fingers, but there's nothing wrong with that. A lot of spinners spin with relaxed fingers, like cloudtraveler or outsider. The smoothness they have will come to you in time.

    The only thing that needs work are linkages, and better variety. You should learn cont midbak 1.5s. And remember to make them spin around the knuckle like cloudtraveler does. :]

    Try practicing them with a signo tipped comssa or GJH.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkK7UrwVSmA...page&fmt=18

  7. Sankaku
    Date: Sat, Jan 17 2009 21:38:30

    QUOTE (Charlie @ Jan 17 2009, 10:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    You have very relaxed fingers, but there's nothing wrong with that. A lot of spinners spin with relaxed fingers, like cloudtraveler or outsider. The smoothness they have will come to you in time.

    The only thing that needs work are linkages, and better variety. You should learn cont midbak 1.5s. And remember to make them spin around the knuckle like cloudtraveler does. :]

    Try practicing them with a signo tipped comssa or GJH.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkK7UrwVSmA...page&fmt=18

    hmmm okay that sounds like a good idea. i'll just practice midbak 1.5 > midbak for now.

  8. Huroni
    Date: Sun, Jan 18 2009 23:36:24




    comments? I know its long...sorry about that..

  9. JC
    Date: Sun, Jan 18 2009 23:44:23

    lol, that combo looks familiar rolleyes.gif
    haha, but yeah... um... dont' do the 1p2h thing until you can do it much more smoothly =\ and i think your combos should be shorter... xD like... 18-22 seconds would be good
    too many passes
    i really like your arounds ^^
    more baks, try the midbak 1.5s like charlie suggested to dalton
    your linkages are really nice though

  10. Baaron
    Date: Mon, Jan 19 2009 00:33:22

    can i have some feedback for my combo from the team collab please?

  11. Shadowserpant
    Date: Mon, Jan 19 2009 01:18:55

    twas awesome thumb.gif
    really tho ill critique it when i get back home
    well here's my collab clip that icepray kinda... blocked out... >>"

    Video -> Full View • Download

  12. Baaron
    Date: Mon, Jan 19 2009 01:21:18

    ok thanks. i know i had a stumble and i couldve been smoother. Any tips on the linkages i used, etc? I felt this combo looked quite similar to my other combos other than the wristaround thingy

  13. JC
    Date: Mon, Jan 19 2009 18:08:41

    Okay... Baaron, since you kind of requested this for your own combo in the collab, I went ahead and did it for everyone. Mainly critique, not much compliments here although I do think that everyone's combo overall were great. happy.gif

    Sankaku
    -work on your linkages cause they seem kinda sloppy at times
    00:24-the ta rev thing
    0034-the linking into the fl TAs

    your fl TAs are great but sometimes, just try linking into them with a simple smooth twisted sonic... whatever you used in that collab vid to link them looked kinda jumbled up and messy to me

    Shadowserpant
    -um..... umm.... eh, just be more consistent with your combos so you don't have to film for so long to get a clip =\
    -i dunno what else to say about that combo... cleaner finisher? meh... you're too good xD

    Huroni
    -spin for much shorter and condense the variety that you use in your combo
    -you use too many passes
    -use more baks and try learning ringaround (twisted sonic rev 12-23 > pass 23-34 > ringaround works great thumb.gif credits to arie for showing me this linkage)
    -you're not quite at 1p2h stuff yet =\ your 1p2h thing in there took too much time and seemed like you were struggling to do it
    -test the camera for a few seconds and check the quality before filming cause your quality didn't come out too well =\ compared to your other vids with the same camera too.... (and what happened to your desk setup??)

    Aiyah
    -less wrist movement
    1:35- the fl tf charge rev could use a lot more smoothness -.-''
    -and i've had this problem for awhile and didn't notice it until huroni pointed it out to me... but you spin on the ends of the pen a lot, try spinning more of the center of the pen (could be using the same tricks that you already use... just not in the same position)
    -shoutbox moar

    JC
    -simply just stop failing, i don't know what else to tell you, you're just so bad... i don't even know why you're on this team, you're disgusting sleep(1).gif

    Charlie
    -your combo was really smooth... hehe, your fingers may be your only downfall but regardless, a very nice combo from you thumb.gif
    -i only saw one possible fumble, and i'm not even sure if it was on purpose or not... but... 2:11??

    Xero
    -wow, you've gotten much smoother ^^
    -maybe you might wanna try making the IPBA rev's a tad smoother? but either way, it still looks nice the way you have it, it really fits your style ^^

    Baaron
    -camera..... what happened? xD? fix that thingg.. so much light in this vid....
    -and you and your brother have similar linkage problems
    2:32-the rotational change didn't look too good, try maintaining the same rotation of spinning (and use rotational changes sparingly, like the 1p2h thing that you did in there was fine if you wanted to include a rotational change at that point..which you did =P )
    2:41- did you... reposition the pen o.0...?? you should never have to catch the pen, reposition it..no matter how brief the repositioning is, and then continue spinning
    -catch it in a slot and just twisted sonic/sonic it if you have to... better than jerking your hand to reposition it and then continue spinning
    well, that's a lie... fratlym does the repositioning thing too... but his is smooth and intended -.-'' but i don't think yours was planned

    Aod1
    -pretty decent combo overall but like baaron and many others, you have a rotational change problem (but to a Muchhhhh lesser extent, so dont' worry too much about it)
    2:52 and 2:55 could be made slightly better, but it's not too shabby
    i tried to find something wrong, even the slightest thing, with every combo but really... your small things aren't a big deal at all, dont' worry
    -but... stop getting yourself banned from the shoutbox and try and visit more often ^^

    DaeHa
    -a really good combo from you, it was overall really smooth
    -it just has that one little mess up that we both know about at 3:13
    -perhaps work on finishers? and btw, what kind of mx do you spin? regular hgg tipped or something else? cause your difficulty can take much more time to get up if you just use a regular hgg tipped mx =\
    as much as i do like seeing someone spinning an mx, perhaps you should try spinning a heavier pen and learn a bunch of stuff first and then transfer all that skill into spinning a mx
    -RA > TA wink.gif good luck with that future nagi =P


    Okay, that's it from me, sorry if some of them were kinda short. I do hope all of you are visiting this team forum enough to be reading the stuff that is posted here... -.-'' cause I barely see some of you even online... so I question your activitiy on UPSB in general =\
    Remember, don't sit there idly and wait for me to ask you to make a video. Try and take initiative and just simply talk to each other about each other's spinning and give small tips and combos that you may wanna share. When I did a tag with Huroni at the NYC gathering, and we were filming the synchro combo, he asked me to do Palm down sonic 23-12 > pass reverse 12-23-34.... which as simple as it seems, it was something new and smooth that I learned and I'm happy that I had created a combo with him. Creating combos and then spinning them together really reveals a lot that can't be seen just from watching videos cause you don't try and copy every combo that you watch.

    So, I hope everything that i've written will help at least a little bit. Good luck everyone happy.gif

  14. Sankaku
    Date: Mon, Jan 19 2009 21:15:16

    -.- my combo was a month old..... and I freestyled that. I think I got a bit better now.

  15. JC
    Date: Mon, Jan 19 2009 21:19:52

    QUOTE (Sankaku @ Jan 19 2009, 04:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    -.- my combo was a month old..... and I freestyled that. I think I got a bit better now.

    whut o.o....? are you sayign you didn't put any extra effort for this vid D:

  16. Shadowserpant
    Date: Mon, Jan 19 2009 21:30:32

    lol some people freestyle better than their planned combos, you know...

  17. JC
    Date: Mon, Jan 19 2009 21:31:43

    QUOTE (Shadowserpant @ Jan 19 2009, 04:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    lol some people freestyle better than their planned combos, you know...

    haha, i know i know
    i can never plan a combo either xD i'm just messing with him =P

  18. Sankaku
    Date: Mon, Jan 19 2009 21:44:48

    QUOTE (JC @ Jan 19 2009, 01:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    whut o.o....? are you sayign you didn't put any extra effort for this vid D:

    err no, when you asked me for the clip, it was just under a month ago xD

  19. DaeHa
    Date: Tue, Jan 20 2009 00:48:07

    QUOTE (JC @ Jan 19 2009, 01:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    DaeHa
    -a really good combo from you, it was overall really smooth
    -it just has that one little mess up that we both know about at 3:13
    -perhaps work on finishers? and btw, what kind of mx do you spin? regular hgg tipped or something else? cause your difficulty can take much more time to get up if you just use a regular hgg tipped mx =\
    as much as i do like seeing someone spinning an mx, perhaps you should try spinning a heavier pen and learn a bunch of stuff first and then transfer all that skill into spinning a mx
    -RA > TA wink.gif good luck with that future nagi =P

    lol why you ask if you know what i spin, and dry.gif I don't have any mods that are as thick as (if not slightly thinner) an RSVP body that I really like.....if I had one i would use it

  20. Baaron
    Date: Thu, Jan 22 2009 02:34:32

    http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?jmd1qnwalzo
    bunch of random stuff. sorry for the hefty file size D: