UPSB v3
Naming Committee / [topic][5.20.2] Bracket System
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Date: Mon, Mar 16 2009 02:55:49
The bracket system exists for convenience purpose: its aim is to reduce the number of modifiers in long unchanging sections.
Everything in bracket will considered to be applied the desired modifier.
1. How should the bracket system function?
In my opinion, it should work in a BBCode style. This is because people are already used to doing it, and because we can really implement in the forum the BBcode to format the breakdown automatically.
Example:
Suppose OFF is the tag for off-hand.
then [OFF]Sonic 12-23 > Sonic 23-34[/OFF] means we're doing a Sonic Fall on the off-hand.
2. How should tags be decided?
Tags could be the modifier itself, to facilitate memorization, or more textual, to improve readability.
3. How are multiple modifiers consolidated?
In my opinion, if you're applying a bunch of modifiers, you keep each in their own brackets, like BBcode.
[OFF][S1]ThumbAround[/S1][/OFF] means thumbaround off-hand for spinner 1. -
Date: Mon, Mar 16 2009 03:00:32
I would say do [whatever symbol you want applied] so it would look like [*] then end with [/*]
Then its pretty easy to know whats supposed to go in, and it would work with all modifiers. -
Date: Mon, Mar 16 2009 03:03:53
I can agree with that, sinec you already memorized it anyway, but at the same time writin something like [OFF] should mean something to someone even fi he hasn't learn the tag yet.
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Date: Mon, Mar 16 2009 03:05:28
why not just do it like math and add the modifier as an exponent?
put brackets around the entire section of tricks, just one pair of brackets, and the applicable modifiers on the outside, at the end?
[Twisted Sonic Reverse 12-23 > Pass Reverse 23-34 >~ Inverse Twisted Sonic 34-23 > Twisted Sonic 23-12 > Pass 23-T1]* > Thumbaround Release T*1*-12 > Charge Reverse 12 ~> Pass 12-23 > Warped Sonic 23-34 > Demon's Sonic 34-12 ~ Twisted Sonic Reverse 12-23 > Pass Reverse 23-34 >~ Inverse Twisted Sonic 34-23 > Twisted Sonic Bust 23-12 > Pass 12-T1 > Extended Thumbaround T1-12 -
Date: Mon, Mar 16 2009 03:08:40
bad idea, you want to know ahead of time what modifiers you're going to apply.
imagine the dude is doing some tricks on his right hand then at the end it says do it on the left ... -
Date: Mon, Mar 16 2009 03:10:05
then stick it at the beginning? (which would be the proper mathematical way to do it anyway, as a coefficient)
*[Twisted Sonic Reverse 12-23 > Pass Reverse 23-34 >~ Inverse Twisted Sonic 34-23 > Twisted Sonic 23-12 > Pass 23-T1] > Thumbaround Release T*1*-12 > Charge Reverse 12 ~> Pass 12-23 > Warped Sonic 23-34 > Demon's Sonic 34-12 ~ Twisted Sonic Reverse 12-23 > Pass Reverse 23-34 >~ Inverse Twisted Sonic 34-23 > Twisted Sonic Bust 23-12 > Pass 12-T1 > Extended Thumbaround T1-12 -
Date: Mon, Mar 16 2009 03:11:02
bad idea
because if you're applying multiple modifiers and you want to end one early, you don't know which one you're ending. -
Date: Mon, Mar 16 2009 03:11:30
having it with the [OFF] style [/OFF] rather than the [style]OFF, seems to make it stand out better.
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Date: Mon, Mar 16 2009 03:14:11
oh you're right... but what ARE our other modifiers anyway? we havent decided on that xPxH thing yet
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Date: Mon, Mar 16 2009 03:17:39
it doesnt what the other modifiers are yet, you need a system that will support them.
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Date: Mon, Mar 16 2009 03:22:04
another thing about just having the symbol is it immediatly works with every symbol, and if someone doesnèt know what the symbol is in the first place, the brackets wonèt do much good, because just seeing OFF in brackets would be confusing.
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Date: Mon, Mar 16 2009 03:30:30
yea that's right, im for the symbol, its more consistent.
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Date: Mon, Mar 16 2009 03:47:30
if we make the bracket system short, it could be efficient enough to use for a slot
i.e.
suppose (* *) is the bracket system for off-hand
(*12*)-23
vs 1*2*-23
the first might be more readable.
although yo could argue [*] is only 1 more character than (* ... -
Date: Mon, Mar 16 2009 04:47:46
How about a period? It requires no shifting, and everyone can do it without looking at there keyboard.
Pass 12-2.1 > water 2.1-.1.2 -
Date: Mon, Mar 16 2009 04:49:08
that took me like 20 seconds to figure out
waaay too small -
Date: Mon, Mar 16 2009 04:51:01
Guess it would be:
Pass rev. 12-2.1 > pass rev 2.1-.1.2
Better way of notating what I was doing when I came up with this. -
Date: Mon, Mar 16 2009 04:55:00QUOTE (schlynn @ Mar 16 2009, 12:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>How about a period? It requires no shifting, and everyone can do it without looking at there keyboard.
Pass 12-2.1 > water 2.1-.1.2
what does that have to do with bracket system??
wrong thread?? -
Date: Mon, Mar 16 2009 04:56:06
My bad, what a noob mistake, misread.
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Date: Mon, Mar 16 2009 14:47:09QUOTE (Zombo @ Mar 15 2009, 11:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>if we make the bracket system short, it could be efficient enough to use for a slot
i.e.
suppose (* *) is the bracket system for off-hand
(*12*)-23
vs 1*2*-23
the first might be more readable.
although yo could argue [*] is only 1 more character than (* ...
Hmm that could work and it is clear for longer ones to, but [*] isn't one more character because the end is [/*] and thats 2 more then *) so in total it is 3 characters longer [*] seems more in line with BBC though and works just as well with what brackets were meant for, long modified parts.
I would be fine with [*] or (* *) -
Date: Mon, Mar 16 2009 16:22:09
yea BBC is a significant advantage IMO
but if I can get the part in [*] to be formatted automatically that's great. it makes it really easy to see what part is what. -
Date: Fri, Apr 10 2009 03:31:53
i think the issue here has been settled to be [Symbol] so no further discussion required here