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Tricks & Combos / [project][1.23] Foreign Objects in Pen Spinning
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Date: Fri, Mar 20 2009 13:54:16
Foreign Objects/Bodies/Items can make PS a little bit more intresting. Many things can be done with using them. Few things I've seen is Rubiks Cube Spin (12ve), Mouse Spin (Many), etc.
They can be used for many things, like Magic, Records, Appeal, etc.
Record example: Mouse Spin 32.5 (by Almad28)
Appeal example: Rubiks Cube Spin - Somewhere in that (by 12ve)
Magic: No video yet but I've thought of things already. Wristbands and watches can be used to great extent for Magic. example: Wiper Rever T1 > Put it through the strap of your watch/wristband > Stretch fingers to show that the pen has disappeared > Do some weird finger movement and pull it out of there. I'll try to get a video as soon as possible. -
Date: Fri, Mar 20 2009 17:00:06
Cool I thought of something like this using a sleeve of a sweater not to long ago, It would probably be pretty easy to figure out but look cool initially, an advantage a shirt brings is that you can show both hands completely, but a watch or wrist band would probably look a little more normal. IDK I'll make a vid
EDIT: Here is one, it definatly needs to be more refined and polished before presentation, but you get the idea
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=7a74803...04e75f6e8ebb871 -
Date: Fri, Mar 20 2009 20:39:58
Dathroat once did a triangle pass on his watch and let it spin.
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Date: Sat, Mar 21 2009 04:43:16
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEBPDArxNs0 1:00 there is a magic trick with foreign objects
and Bonkura was the master in general of foreign objects (rope, fans, mats, cellphones, forks, magnets)
do you have a plan for researching this? it's a VERY open ended topic -
Date: Sat, Mar 21 2009 04:51:29QUOTE (Jamie Enns @ Mar 21 2009, 12:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEBPDArxNs0 1:00 there is a magic trick with foreign objects
and Bonkura was the master in general of foreign objects (rope, fans, mats, cellphones, forks, magnets)
do you have a plan for researching this? it's a VERY open ended topic
lol, that video is filled with foreign object spinning XD -
Date: Sat, Mar 21 2009 06:39:22QUOTE (Jamie Enns @ Mar 21 2009, 10:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEBPDArxNs0 1:00 there is a magic trick with foreign objects
and Bonkura was the master in general of foreign objects (rope, fans, mats, cellphones, forks, magnets)
do you have a plan for researching this? it's a VERY open ended topic
Yes, it is to research more use of foreign objects for 'more' efficiency in PS. 'Tapping' stuff is not really using foreign objects.
This was made to research on conceptual ideas using them (eg: Bonkura). -
Date: Sat, Mar 21 2009 15:25:05
s777 made a turtle spin =)
Objetcs are principally used for spin; you can also make continuous arounds with a toothbrush (I made cont back rev x250 with it =) ). But I am not really sure that has to be develloped, that is not a concept, this is most like something curious you can put in a video... -
Date: Sat, Mar 21 2009 15:41:42QUOTE (lindor @ Mar 21 2009, 11:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>s777 made a turtle spin =)
Objetcs are principally used for spin; you can also make continuous arounds with a toothbrush (I made cont back rev x250 with it =) ). But I am not really sure that has to be develloped, that is not a concept, this is most like something curious you can put in a video...
it can be developped into a concept if there is smooth integration between real spinning and object spinning.
videos like the mouse spin seems stupid because its isolated from real pen spinning, so it doesn't look like real pen spinning at all, but if you can use objects while spinning then the effect is very good.
BTW, this topic should only talk about small objects,
for walls and table, there are seperate topics (in my opinion, the latters have much more immediate potential than any other objects) -
Date: Sat, Mar 21 2009 18:22:19
I honestly think that this is too wide in general. Like Outsmash's ass because of all the gay sex he's had.
try focusing on a single foreign object (like rope or a turtle) and find the possibilities with that. but even thats super open ended.
and define "'more' efficiency in PS" because i don't see this plan for research feasible.
i'm just confused on where you plan on going with this, considering the possibilities are legitimately endless. -
Date: Sat, Mar 21 2009 19:03:26QUOTE (Zombo @ Mar 21 2009, 11:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>it can be developped into a concept if there is smooth integration between real spinning and object spinning.
videos like the mouse spin seems stupid because its isolated from real pen spinning, so it doesn't look like real pen spinning at all, but if you can use objects while spinning then the effect is very good.
BTW, this topic should only talk about small objects,
for walls and table, there are seperate topics (in my opinion, the latters have much more immediate potential than any other objects)
It hasn't been done before and would be hard but things like mouse spin could be integrated in with spin transfers, like neobak ~ mouse spin.
I am interested in why you think walls and stuff have more immediate potential, Bonkura did a lot of stuff with small objects, as for tables and walls I can think of isolation things (I think thats what its called where people "pin" the pen to the table and rotate it), rolling but thats boring, deflections like MA rev release ~ wall bounce > catch. You must have more ideas them me on the subject. -
Date: Sat, Mar 21 2009 19:10:43
i agree that tables and walls have more potential
i dont think bonkura's roll was boring at all
also, pyralux has already developed some table concepts which i've demonstrated (table isolation)
and as walls and tables are essentially the same thing 90 degrees over, i'd have to say walls have just as much potential -
Date: Sat, Mar 21 2009 20:27:22QUOTE (Awesome @ Mar 21 2009, 03:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>It hasn't been done before and would be hard but things like mouse spin could be integrated in with spin transfers, like neobak ~ mouse spin.
I am interested in why you think walls and stuff have more immediate potential, Bonkura did a lot of stuff with small objects, as for tables and walls I can think of isolation things (I think thats what its called where people "pin" the pen to the table and rotate it), rolling but thats boring, deflections like MA rev release ~ wall bounce > catch. You must have more ideas them me on the subject.
because it has already been shown in combos how walls and tables can be used, so the immediate concern with those is to expand on that. look at some WT09 you can see some examples of table use.
other objects have only been sporadically so it's further on the development track.
like i said, keep all the table/wall discussion in the project "external points of contact" -
Date: Sun, Mar 22 2009 06:12:00QUOTE (Jamie Enns @ Mar 21 2009, 11:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I honestly think that this is too broad in general.
try focusing on a single foreign object (like rope or a turtle) and find the possibilities with that. but even thats super open ended.
and define "'more' efficiency in PS" because i don't see this plan for research feasible.
i'm just confused on where you plan on going with this considering the possibilities are legitimately endless
To discuss about the possibilities with different objects that can be used in PS. You can open seperate topics after that (on invidual objects) if you wish. -
Date: Sun, Mar 22 2009 06:18:58QUOTE (Jamie Enns @ Mar 21 2009, 02:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I honestly think that this is too broad in general.
try focusing on a single foreign object (like rope or a turtle) and find the possibilities with that. but even thats super open ended.
and define "'more' efficiency in PS" because i don't see this plan for research feasible.
i'm just confused on where you plan on going with this considering the possibilities are legitimately endless
Dude thats the point, notice how it says project right in the title
http://www.upsb.info/forum/index.php?showtopic=185
We make topics for specific things like you said
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Date: Sun, Mar 22 2009 14:26:00
actually outsmash wrongly called it topic so i renamed it.
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Date: Tue, Mar 24 2009 18:25:55QUOTE (Shadowserpant @ Mar 21 2009, 07:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i agree that tables and walls have more potential
i dont think bonkura's roll was boring at all
and as walls and tables are essentially the same thing 90 degrees over, i'd have to say walls have just as much potential
Table can be sloped or have other objects on them too. Walls are just 90 degrees and you can't really put anything on them either.
On that note, table spinning seems to be fairly large in potential? Could we not start a topic on that? -
Date: Tue, Mar 24 2009 19:22:38QUOTE (Mats @ Mar 24 2009, 02:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Table can be sloped or have other objects on them too. Walls are just 90 degrees and you can't really put anything on them either.
On that note, table spinning seems to be fairly large in potential? Could we not start a topic on that?
there is already a topic on table spinning. -
Date: Tue, Mar 24 2009 19:45:10
I'm not a fan of using foreign objects in pen spinning, probably because I haven't really seen it done well. Most people just grab some random object and do some top spin with it, no solid transition. And banging your pen against a wall is neither creative nor cool. I find it rather lame, but that's just me.
I have experimented with the idea nonetheless. I've been able to do top spins with chopsticks on a smooth table, but it's hard to do the same with a pen mod. I've also spun the pen like a top, but it's hard to get a large number of rotations. -
Date: Thu, Mar 26 2009 05:39:51
Chopsticks xD that brings up something cool Kari Chan did in a promo or somehting, chopstick charge? If people can spin with chopsticks, as in hold chopsticks as if you were gonna eat and do some tricks, it might be a cool skill. Like, 1p1h2c (1 pen 1 hand 2 chopsticks)
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Date: Mon, Apr 27 2009 13:21:22
I also thought about using foreign objects as an ending. For example, let an aerial drop into a cup. I'll do a video soon.
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Date: Mon, Apr 27 2009 13:54:42
@kuhfi, Fratleym did something like that time ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAzPsySEtVk -
Date: Mon, Apr 27 2009 20:38:07
Ohh, okay, I didn't know that, sorry. But I think that this thing has way more potential, its underused. Why keep a combo end in a hand? I think this is worthy of a collab. There are many variations to do this... For example: Dropping the Pen in something liquid (this adds a humorous effect^^) - using different things to drop the pen in - there are many possibilities, not only with endings, but with foreign objects at all.
There are also many differences in the difficulty of the object where the pen is dropped in, for example, its way harder to drop the pen into the bag in a PDS pencase then dropping it into a cup.
I think this should be promoted, the concept has something genius. We should collect some more ideas and/or examples. -
Date: Wed, Apr 29 2009 05:51:20QUOTE (kuhfi @ Apr 27 2009, 06:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I also thought about using foreign objects as an ending. For example, let an aerial drop into a cup. I'll do a video soon.
That's not much. You're just letting it fall into something.
Find ways to use objects for pen spinning.QUOTE (kuhfi @ Apr 28 2009, 02:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Ohh, okay, I didn't know that, sorry. But I think that this thing has way more potential, its underused. Why keep a combo end in a hand? I think this is worthy of a collab. There are many variations to do this... For example: Dropping the Pen in something liquid (this adds a humorous effect^^) - using different things to drop the pen in - there are many possibilities, not only with endings, but with foreign objects at all.
There are also many differences in the difficulty of the object where the pen is dropped in, for example, its way harder to drop the pen into the bag in a PDS pencase then dropping it into a cup.
I think this should be promoted, the concept has something genius. We should collect some more ideas and/or examples.
Endings can be done very easily. No point just 'dropping' the pen into some(any)thing. Using it would be more genious. eg: I do a TA > air > Bed of nails is cooler than anything you mentioned but still the same thing.
Utilizing different objects in pen spinning using different methods is more benefitial. Like strings or cables, etc. Ex: Using a basketball to spin a pen will be really hard but it involves the usage of the basketball to spin the pen not just throwing it onto the basketball.
Hope you get my point. -
Date: Wed, Apr 29 2009 10:22:04QUOTE (Outsmash @ Apr 29 2009, 07:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>That's not much. You're just letting it fall into something.
Find ways to use objects for pen spinning.
Endings can be done very easily. No point just 'dropping' the pen into some(any)thing. Using it would be more genious. eg: I do a TA > air > Bed of nails is cooler than anything you mentioned but still the same thing.
Utilizing different objects in pen spinning using different methods is more benefitial. Like strings or cables, etc. Ex: Using a basketball to spin a pen will be really hard but it involves the usage of the basketball to spin the pen not just throwing it onto the basketball.
Hope you get my point.
Thats what I mean. There are almost endless possibilities to use foreign objects, it just has not been researched so much yet. I like your Idea with the basketball, tho its extremely hard. If this is possible, it would be nice to implement a mouse spin into a combo for example, tho also very hard. This needs much precision with releases etc. As everyone knows, the thing with the strings has been done by bonkura very well. -
Date: Sun, May 24 2009 17:26:18
hmmm...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3ZhPVBuvbA
:44
1:06
not sure if those count but they are along the same line i suppose -
Date: Mon, May 25 2009 03:08:37
1:06 was freaking awesomel ol
:44 is more of a joke -
Date: Mon, May 25 2009 15:08:44
Nice
What about this one? The CD Thingy (3:09, 3:15, 3:22) and the Floor-Bounce-Ending (2:38, 2:54, 3:07) are executed well imo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DbN7nrgiqs -
Date: Wed, Jun 3 2009 17:48:04
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvnmOXtxMck
In the last combo (1:40) I did some things with a notebook, but nothing special really.