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Serious Discussion / Your views on sex
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Date: Sun, Mar 22 2009 03:11:41
So what are your views on sex? When should people have sex? When should they discuss it? What is your view on how society treats sex?
My views (I suggest you write your post first before reading this response):
I think that sex is a very major thing to be shared only between two people very committed and in love. I believe that in your life, you should ideally only have sex with one person, so you must wait for the right person to come along and be patient and try to ensure that you have found someone as committed to you as you are to them.
I do not agree with the 'one night stand' culture or with the modern view of sex being freely available. I see it as the closest that two people can possibly be and therefore only to be shared with the person you wish to be closest to, to share you life with.
I also think that regular sex is the most wonderful thing that can possibly happen to anyone, so long as you find the right person and wait for the right time. Oral sex is very nice, however, nothing will compare to having sex with the partner you love.
Children seem to be discussing sex at a younger and younger age. Overall I think this is quite bad. Although it can be a good thing to have the information out there for kids, it seems to have the overall affect of making kids have sex younger, because they are curious perhaps? Or maybe because thanks to technologies such as the pill and condom, sex seems to be without consequence, or at least, less consequencial. -
Date: Sun, Mar 22 2009 03:14:28
i dont think it's bad for kids to discuss sex, i just think they're getting the wrong ideas about it, and i think alot of that is caused by vulgar music
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Date: Sun, Mar 22 2009 03:21:35
Yes, I agree with you Mats and Shadowserpant.
With hip-hop and rap being popular now-a-days, kids are exposed to more and more vulgar lyrics.
Also, as you said, Mats, the idea of sex and its consequences have been made very minor by today's society etc.
More value needs to be placed on the consequences and its meaning.
I highly disagree with the "one night stand" idea. -
Date: Sun, Mar 22 2009 09:20:34
Sex shouldn't be hidden in anyway. Its a part of life and should be dealt with. Everyone should be open with it, and sex will come when its ready.
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Date: Sun, Mar 22 2009 10:35:28
KurtAB I don't think it's true that EVERYONE will face sex somday, I highly doubt myself having sex in future. I even highly doubt I can get a girl to be a NORMAL friend.
Yea of course. It comes from our instinct as trying to reproduce, and also human (and SOME other animal...dolphins I think) have the libido implanted into brains, a libido to have sex without the goal of reproduction. Basically, most of us humans enjoy having sex rather than just doing because we have to. Idealistically, libido is connected to love, and when someone have sex with another, it's usually because they love each other enough to trust each other and do it.
For example, gorillas or monkeys do promiscuity, but we human don't. We human ethnically consider choosing-static-partner(s) the best solution to reproduce, which people consider marriage the way to do such thing. And since marriage usually come from love (absence of special circumstances) we can say USUALLY love cause sex (and very rarely the other way around).
When they have sex (without any use of pregnancy protection) they get child, and child is also part of love: love is not only exchanged through partners but through child as well, therefore deepening bonds.
Sex is a good thing. -
Date: Sun, Mar 22 2009 13:27:16QUOTE (Dark Angel-REX @ Mar 22 2009, 10:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>KurtAB I don't think it's true that EVERYONE will face sex somday, I highly doubt myself having sex in future.
Haha at your age I thought the same thing. Maybe until I was 18 I thought that. Then at 18 I gave up on sex and relationships altogether. But you never know... There are many things I said I would never do that I have now done. You cannot predict the future! Try not to highly doubt anything! -
Date: Sun, Mar 22 2009 13:32:28
I agree with shadow,kids can learn about sex(such as myself),but religion and belief also play a role in abstinance(not spelled right) from sex.
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Date: Sun, Mar 22 2009 14:32:46
well religion do a lot with "sex" but I'm atheist, so it barely have to do anything with me.
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Date: Sun, Mar 22 2009 15:16:46
IMO, i think sex shouldn't be hidden, but also shouldnt be wide-open. sex is ok to talk about once a while, but sexually harassement is something else. In my school, sex is almost in every sentence.
"how the hell do u kno what my mom did last night"
"cuz i did her"
even the "yo mama" jokes r used almost every single time.
i guess since all those songs out there now deal alot about sex. -
Date: Sun, Mar 22 2009 16:17:55
I think sex is a beautiful thing and shouldn't be made fun of. I also belive that sex should only be done after marraige. Like after you exhange your vows.
About porn, I think that's just objectifying women.. which is bad. I think sex should be clean and nice for both genders.
Sex and love combined is the best feeling you can share with your partner.
About religion, I'm a christian but as far as I know, it just says no sex out of marraige (affairs). Sex within marraige is encouraged actually...I think.. -
Date: Mon, Mar 23 2009 00:02:35
@glam as a fellow Christian i also believe it is sex after marriage.
my views of sex=its the not the nasty, its the awesome
educational views of sex= yes younger kids are learning about sex early on. I agree that a large portion of it is because of vulgar music thats uses excessive profanity and sexual themes
veiws on pornography= in my opinion it does nothing but degrades women and sparks a lust inside of you that is very hard to quench
pre-marital sex- it may seem like something fun but it only lets your spouse later on know that youve explored other caves ;]
marital sex [spelled wrong i know]- this should be done if you know that is the " one " ther person you will love forever and cherish more than life itself -
Date: Mon, Mar 23 2009 00:10:42QUOTE (Josh_man @ Mar 23 2009, 12:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>pre-marital sex- it may seem like something fun but it only lets your spouse later on know that youve explored other caves ;]
marital sex [spelled wrong i know]- this should be done if you know that is the " one " ther person you will love forever and cherish more than life itself
I don't see why it must be sex after marriage. I believe in sex only with one person, but you need not be married or not. Marriage doesn't really make a difference in this? If you choose to have sex with that one person then you are committed anyway? -
Date: Tue, Mar 24 2009 00:33:11QUOTE (Mats @ Mar 22 2009, 08:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I don't see why it must be sex after marriage. I believe in sex only with one person, but you need not be married or not. Marriage doesn't really make a difference in this? If you choose to have sex with that one person then you are committed anyway?
i see your point, and i agree that if you know this is the one person you are fully committed with them sure. If they are the only one you will be with and you know it then sex is absolutely reasonable. Im not saying it isnt if they arent the only one but you know what i mean
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Date: Wed, Mar 25 2009 02:06:37QUOTE (Glamouraz @ Mar 22 2009, 09:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>About religion, I'm a christian but as far as I know, it just says no sex out of marraige (affairs). Sex within marraige is encouraged actually...I think..
expanding your post on religion and sex.
yea, sex is actually not considered to be a bad thing in religion (Christianity). Its actually considered to be a gift given to us after were married. And one of the greatest gift we can give our partner (after marriage) is our virginity.
thus
having sex before marriage is seen as an evil thing.
^
my beliefs are all for this.
One night stands are just wrong.gif)
blame the 'wife/women/girfriend beating' music -
Date: Sun, Apr 5 2009 14:25:32
Sex is part of human nature, it's what we do, along with sleeping, eating, and breathing.
As far as kids learning about sex younger and younger, they have a right to know how their own bodies work don't they? -
Date: Sun, Apr 5 2009 15:05:52QUOTE (Mats @ Mar 23 2009, 03:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I don't see why it must be sex after marriage. I believe in sex only with one person, but you need not be married or not. Marriage doesn't really make a difference in this? If you choose to have sex with that one person then you are committed anyway?
You believe in sex with one person, but you are afraid of marriage? Why? And if you aren't afraid of marriage, then why not get married with the girl you are going to bed with? After all, it 'doesn't make any difference', as you say. -
Date: Wed, Apr 8 2009 16:25:04
I consider myself very religious, but I'm starting to move away from an absolutist worldview to a more relativistic worldview. If the time is right, if it feels right, and I have protection, then yeah, I'd engage in premarital sex.
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Date: Thu, Apr 16 2009 09:30:46
About the porn.. I think some people should watch this if you do watch pornography:
Anyways, I agree that vulgar music does have a large influence on children (including myself) and I also think television has a big influence. Also, I believe that sex before marriage is a bad thing, even though I haven't been baptised (nor do I go to church) I feel that I'm Christian and do believe in God. Sex is something that I think should be shared between 2 people after marriage, but with this vulgar music and TV i find that sex is a hard to abstain from until marriage since a lot of us are exposed to it early and skimpy girls are quite common in our society.
There's my 2 cents, hopefully it made sense. -
Date: Thu, Apr 16 2009 10:48:23
I couldn't live if i waited till after marriage to have sex. I don't understand the theory behind it, don't make any sense to me why someone would do that. It brings a couple much much closer imo.
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Date: Thu, Apr 16 2009 14:17:16QUOTE (Mats @ Mar 21 2009, 10:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Children seem to be discussing sex at a younger and younger age. Overall I think this is quite bad. Although it can be a good thing to have the information out there for kids, it seems to have the overall affect of making kids have sex younger, because they are curious perhaps? Or maybe because thanks to technologies such as the pill and condom, sex seems to be without consequence, or at least, less consequencial.
Just throwing in a note here, and you probably already knew this but just for those reading who don't, Fact: discussing sex and providing information about condoms and pills causes less teen pregnancy than only discussing abstinence. -
Date: Thu, Apr 16 2009 16:20:26QUOTE (Sadistic @ Apr 16 2009, 07:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Just throwing in a note here, and you probably already knew this but just for those reading who don't, Fact: discussing sex and providing information about condoms and pills causes less teen pregnancy than only discussing abstinence.
Yes.
Based on a mixture of fact and opinion, i know that spreading sexual awareness and openly discussing it with younger people REDUCES the spread of stds and also teen pregnancy. Learning about safe sex through this sexual education is vital in teaching kids, and the only way for that to happen is to be more open about it. This is where my opinion comes into play. Much of the effectiveness of this, though, rests largely on the quality of the sexual education give to the younger people. I know the fact that Sadistic was saying - abstinence DOES NOT WORK. Other similar ways of 'educating' people about sex by teaching kids about abstinence, scaring them into thinking that sex is bad, and banning the topic altogether. These have failed to be effective in the past and never will. One fact about this that proves this is that a study was made about why the latino population have 53% of teens 18 and below have given birth to a child (in the US). This was because of the shunning of the topic of sex altogether and not teaching them vital concepts of safe sex. Many people that went to planned parenthood places for abortions even said that they didn't know about condoms and the pill. This points to my belief that promoting openness about sex through sexual education is the most effective way of teaching kids about sex.
I do have to agree with Mats on the subject of rap and other pop culture influences on children cause people to get bad ideas of sex, but, in a way, if we can teach kids the right idea of sex openly and constantly, it should be enough to help kids make the connection between a rap song and them having sex in real life.
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Date: Fri, May 15 2009 05:59:15QUOTE (CoolattaメDGN @ Apr 6 2009, 12:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Sex is part of human nature, it's what we do, along with sleeping, eating, and breathing.
As far as kids learning about sex younger and younger, they have a right to know how their own bodies work don't they?
Thats a very immature point of view... There are studies to show that a persons brain doesnt fully develop its "descision making" centre until the age of around 24 (in males AND females)(yes females stop growing at about 16 in most cases but their brains still develop). The younger kids learn about these kind of topic will mean the more they try to explore them and they will not realise the consequences of their actions and most probably regret it later in life, although this might not be the case for all people.
Yes they have a right to know how their own bodies work, but what they are built for is an entirely different matter. -
Date: Fri, May 15 2009 06:30:59
so your saying that we cant make decishions until we are 24 or what, and our brain does whatever it wants?
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Date: Fri, May 15 2009 07:21:04
Im saying you are more likely to do something that you regret... especially concerning sex.
It is usually wise to wait until a little later in life anyways, but its not really the way it works around where i live.
If i follow the trend, i should get laid in around about last year -
Date: Fri, May 15 2009 11:53:21
I dont see why you still haven't.
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Date: Fri, May 15 2009 12:20:06QUOTE (Glamouraz @ Mar 22 2009, 11:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I think sex is a beautiful thing and shouldn't be made fun of. I also belive that sex should only be done after marraige. Like after you exhange your vows.
About porn, I think that's just objectifying women.. which is bad. I think sex should be clean and nice for both genders.
Sex and love combined is the best feeling you can share with your partner.
About religion, I'm a christian but as far as I know, it just says no sex out of marraige (affairs). Sex within marraige is encouraged actually...I think..
Yeah, Actually it is encouraged. To keep the love within the two spouses alive. (not kidding)
I actually feel the same way Glamouraz, you are completely right about this. We should only do it when the time comes.
Though I've asked a lot of people (also women), and they said that, they are fine with having pre-marital sex. When I asked why, they said just so when the time comes that they already got married. They already know what to do, and what not to do so that their sex would be very enjoyable.
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Date: Sat, May 16 2009 00:31:17QUOTE (Glamouraz @ May 15 2009, 09:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I dont see why you still haven't.
Haha... cause i have a girlfriend and im a gentleman, i will wait until she is ready and says she wants to. -
Date: Sat, May 16 2009 02:30:21
Ok.
If i had a girlfriend, I wouldn't do it even if we're both ready. (We'll see how that goes..) -
Date: Sat, May 16 2009 03:08:15
if you wouldn't do it, then you aren't ready.
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Date: Sun, May 17 2009 20:01:26
I dont get the sense too, like KurtAb said. Why having sex only after marriage? I mean if you and your partner are in love and you know that she or he is the one you want to share everything with , so why not? You have to trsut your partner and i think its the lovliest and best way to show your partner that you trust her or him. While having sex you are so close to your partner. And i know it seems very weird or stupid but i have the experience that your relation ship works even better if you have sex. You have more intimate moments and theres a special harmony. Its not only about the physical satisfaction. Yeah sometimes there is sex where you only want to have fun, BUT you have to get the sense beyond it. So if you are both ready and save . What the hell prevents you to have such a great thing..
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Date: Sat, May 30 2009 04:08:56
life is all about having fun, so do what you gotta do, stay safe and responsible. thats what i think.
but i still do totally understand the whole sex with one person thing. -
Date: Sun, Jun 7 2009 00:53:46
i think post-marital is right...
i mean, if you're supposed to LOVE only one person, then shouldnt you only really have sex with one person? at least, i see sex as a love-based idea rather than just... physical gratification =P
no religious influences btw -
Date: Mon, Jun 15 2009 20:01:19QUOTE (Sidewinder @ May 15 2009, 01:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Thats a very immature point of view... There are studies to show that a persons brain doesnt fully develop its "descision making" centre until the age of around 24 (in males AND females)(yes females stop growing at about 16 in most cases but their brains still develop). The younger kids learn about these kind of topic will mean the more they try to explore them and they will not realise the consequences of their actions and most probably regret it later in life, although this might not be the case for all people.
Yes they have a right to know how their own bodies work, but what they are built for is an entirely different matter.
I said they should have a right to know how everything works, and if they were properly informed, the fact that they may explore their sexual desires isn't an issue. But the fact that they might not be using protection properly or at all is an issue. If children are sheltered from sexual education then they are more likely to make mistakes when they do decide to have sex.
For example, I recently met a girl who sits behind me in math. She was telling me a story about her friend getting pregnant at the age of 15, because she gave a guy a blow job and swallowed semen. Instantly I told her that was impossible. After about 15 min of arguing with her she finally believed me. This just proves that even high school kids still need education about sex. -
Date: Thu, Jun 18 2009 06:36:51
See, this one of those issues in which I believe quite firmly on.
No matter how much you educate, talk, discuss, shun, close off, or deny, people have sex.
You can educate kids all you want about sex, but until the brain can develop (around 18 usually), good judgement isn't going to be made 3/4 the time.
(24 is FULL stoppage of growth of the Pre-Frontal Cortex.)
Right now, kids/teens currently have the mindset of being more comfortable with their pants down than they are talking to one another. They know what a condom is, they know how to use it, they aren't dumb, they're just afraid to ask questions.
I did the same thing when I was 16, I lost my virginity to my first girl-friend, it was because we felt it was the only way to get closer to one another besides words. I used a condom, she had birth control, went out for a year and decided that it wasn't going to work. She's still one of my best friends to this day. I look back at it and no matter what I do I will always remember what it was like to have sex with this person. The first experience becomes ingrained into the brain. Do I think it was a bad decision? Yes. Do I regret it? No. Sometimes the only way to find out what your personal values are is to try.
That being said, what I think should happen is that religion needs to get the FUCK out of the classroom and some real-life advice should be done. Sex shouldn't be a taboo subject, it's absolutely fucking absurd.
Don't tell people what they can and cannot due. Let them make that decision and experience the consequences of that action. You can tell a blind-person a marker is blue for years and they will still question if that marker is really blue. Same principal, regardless of how much you tell someone something, until they experience it in one way or another, the growth will never occur.
Some individuals grow up quicker than others, they can understand the consequences of their actions. It's the few that don't have that thought process which will make these kind of mistakes.
I think my dad put sex in the best terms I can think of, "Don't be dumb, use a condom." aka Use common sense and be safe. Done deal.
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Date: Thu, Jun 18 2009 06:59:04
It's not pre-marital sex if you don't plan on getting married.
Okay, in all seriousness:
Personally, I don't think there's anything wrong with sex. But it is pretty stupid if you end up getting someone/yourself pregnant or getting an STD.
People should be taught about how to not screw each other's lives over, not just taught not to screw each other. (oh yes, that was very punny. Lol, fail.)
Also, pre-marital sex: You wouldn't want to enter into a so-called "sacred bond" with someone without knowing everything about them, right?QUOTE (Winterlocke @ Jun 6 2009, 05:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i think post-marital is right...
i mean, if you're supposed to LOVE only one person, then shouldnt you only really have sex with one person? at least, i see sex as a love-based idea rather than just... physical gratification =P
no religious influences btw
Well, who says you have to love only one person? And who says sex has to do with love? Society has a tendency to come up with weird traditions and expectations that have little to no rational basis. -
Date: Fri, Oct 23 2009 10:47:58
If there wasnt any sex....there would be no us
and most of us are still young. We should just focus on our lives instead of thinking about sex...
it just blurres yur thought about love too much... -
Date: Sat, Oct 31 2009 02:11:08
i dono... so far i know 2 people who have had sex at the age of 14 or under..
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Date: Wed, Jan 27 2010 03:10:24
i have no idea why everyone thinks sex is such a big thing, like you're giving a lung to this person, if they run off ur life is ruined... sex is fun, i could stop there but i wont, sex brings 2 people together, theres nothing dirty about it, i honestly half do it coz i want her to feel good, because i love her... its not like im doing something ill regret forever, thats what happens when you do stupid shit at 13, when the right age comes around, you're ready... people need sex like they need shelter... you can live without it but its not healthy and ur gonna get all worked up if you dont get ur feelings out eventually... the human body works the way it does to get the things it needs... all in all, sex isnt evil, people need to get over thinking it is
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Date: Wed, Jan 27 2010 03:22:59
Every religion and believe system agrees that sex is sacred. Men cannot survive without women and women cannot survive without men. I think one should only have sex post-marriage. It should only be shared with one person of the opposite gender and you love with all your heart. However the world has corrupted something so pure into something so wrong with adultery and one night stands.
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Date: Wed, Jan 27 2010 04:24:41QUOTE (Hippo2626 @ Jan 26 2010, 11:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Every religion and believe system agrees that sex is sacred. Men cannot survive without women and women cannot survive without men. I think one should only have sex post-marriage. It should only be shared with one person of the opposite gender and you love with all your heart. However the world has corrupted something so pure into something so wrong with adultery and one night stands.
Can you provide any secular justification or are you just here to bible troll? -
Date: Wed, Jan 27 2010 16:10:00QUOTE (Sadistic @ Jan 26 2010, 11:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Can you provide any secular justification or are you just here to bible troll?
I'm fairly certain the thread title is "Your views", he provided them, nothing trolling about that post.
Also, not that he needed to, but he did put something secular. "Men cannot survive without women and women cannot survive without men.", he believes it's something that should be respected and not given away like candy, nothing wrong with that.
That being said, I don't really agree, I do see it as a big deal,something you shouldn't treat lightly (if not only for the possibility of STIs and pregnancy), but I don't think marraige is any sort of litmus test of sex. If you're legitimately ready, then who cares if you're married. -
Date: Thu, Jan 28 2010 00:15:37QUOTE (strat1227 @ Jan 27 2010, 11:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I'm fairly certain the thread title is "Your views", he provided them, nothing trolling about that post.
Also, not that he needed to, but he did put something secular. "Men cannot survive without women and women cannot survive without men.", he believes it's something that should be respected and not given away like candy, nothing wrong with that.
That being said, I don't really agree, I do see it as a big deal,something you shouldn't treat lightly (if not only for the possibility of STIs and pregnancy), but I don't think marraige is any sort of litmus test of sex. If you're legitimately ready, then who cares if you're married.
Fair enough, but I would not doubt that they are the views he was born into...."Men cannot survive without women and women cannot survive without men." is not support for his reasoning, just a factual statement. -
Date: Thu, Jan 28 2010 03:24:21QUOTE (Sadistic @ Jan 27 2010, 08:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Fair enough, but I would not doubt that they are the views he was born into...."Men cannot survive without women and women cannot survive without men." is not support for his reasoning, just a factual statement.
Neither of my parents are religious, but I'm Christian, not all Christians are uneducated and ignorant of the other views. I'm embarassed to say that most are, but that doesn't make it right to make assumptions.
And I don't know what other "secular reasoning" you could want for holding something in high regard. -
Date: Thu, Jan 28 2010 06:28:46QUOTE (strat1227 @ Jan 27 2010, 11:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Neither of my parents are religious, but I'm Christian, not all Christians are uneducated and ignorant of the other views. I'm embarassed to say that most are, but that doesn't make it right to make assumptions.
And I don't know what other "secular reasoning" you could want for holding something in high regard.
He could have said that the likeliness of contracting STIs is lower, that your less likely to get pregnant, maybe he could of given specific reasoning behind how he feels it devalues love. It may not have been trolling, but I just get frustrated when people claim something is wrong because that is what their belief says. -
Date: Thu, Jan 28 2010 07:16:20QUOTE (Sadistic @ Jan 28 2010, 01:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>He could have said that the likeliness of contracting STIs is lower, that your less likely to get pregnant, maybe he could of given specific reasoning behind how he feels it devalues love.
None of which has anything to do with what he said. He said that he holds it in high respect, because it's an important act between a man and a woman.
His post was entirely valid, methinks you just saw the word religion and went blind to everything else. -
Date: Thu, Jan 28 2010 07:44:27QUOTE (strat1227 @ Jan 28 2010, 03:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>None of which has anything to do with what he said.
I realize that, that was why I was specifically suggesting those as alternatives to what he could have used.QUOTE (strat1227 @ Jan 28 2010, 03:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>He said that he holds it in high respect, because it's an important act between a man and a woman.
His post was entirely valid
I already openly admitted that this was indeed a "view", and valid in the sense that it pertained to the topic of the title. Because you have a view upon something, that does not mean you have a secular reasoning for said view.
For example, I could say that the sky is blue because it is important, but that does nothing to support my assertion.
He could have given reasons for why it was important, or why sex before marriage was a violation of this important act. I may have had reason to accept it as an argument if he had done this, but he does nothing to support his view. He just states his view.QUOTE (strat1227 @ Jan 28 2010, 03:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>methinks you just saw the word religion and went blind to everything else.
methinks your asserting the same stereotype that many Christians place upon atheists, that of utter blind bias. This is not at all appreciated. -
Date: Thu, Jan 28 2010 17:33:55
Look, I'm not trying to start a fight, but my point is that based on comments like
QUOTEare you just here to bible troll?QUOTEI would not doubt that they are the views he was born into....
and many others, inside and outside of this thread, show that you don't have respect for the opinion of anyone who is religious, and that's not conducive to healthy discussion.
So no, I wasn't just asserting stereotypes, my own parents are athiests, I have no problem with them, until they start bashing religious people with no cause.
I'm sorry if I started any arguments or hurt feelings, but your original post was uncalled for. -
Date: Fri, Jan 29 2010 06:29:06QUOTE (strat1227 @ Jan 28 2010, 12:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>and many others, inside and outside of this thread, show that you don't have respect for the opinion of anyone who is religious, and that's not conducive to healthy discussion.
Certainly my first statement was uncalled for, and I have admitted that, but it was the lack of substance his post contained that angered me, not the religious connection it made. Broad generalized statements are a recurring theme in religious discussions, from atheists and theists alike. Its not that these archetypal opinions on religion aren't "views", but they are boring to hear repeated constantly with an expectation of acceptance.
Its probably just as frustrating to hear that all atheists are immoral, as it is to hear that all Christians are ignorant sheep (an example of a very stupid stereotype some atheists apply to theists).
I don't bash views specifically because they are religious views, I bash views when they are views without justification.... -
Date: Fri, Jan 29 2010 06:36:18
Note*
NO SEX, NO US
Conversation over
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Date: Fri, Jan 29 2010 06:39:11QUOTE (Krispy Kreme @ Jan 29 2010, 02:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Note*
NO SEX, NO US
Conversation over
lol now this is a post i think EVERYONE can agree is flamable xD -
Date: Fri, Jan 29 2010 07:24:38QUOTE (strat1227 @ Jan 29 2010, 02:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>lol now this is a post i think EVERYONE can agree is flamable xD
lolz
1. gather 1 mans
2. gather 1 womens
3. ???????
4. Profit