UPSB v3
Advanced Tricks / Direction Changes
Didn't Know where else to put =/
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Date: Fri, Mar 27 2009 23:51:03
Yeah, I was just wondering. What do you guys think about Rotation Changes? Like, I was thinking about including the mini combo
Pinkybak -> pinkybak rev
or neobak 23-34 - > pinkybak rev
into a combo...and I think it looks cool, with the pause and everything. What do you guys think? Do some look better than others? What are your favorites? -
Date: Sat, Mar 28 2009 00:03:55
Is this where changing hand position have a big role?
a simple Inverse Sonic 23-12 -> Rev. Twisted Sonic 12-23 has a good feeling when i do it -
Date: Sat, Mar 28 2009 01:07:58
twisted sonic rev 23-34 > inv twisted sonic 34-23
inv twisted sonic rev 12-23 > twisted sonic 23-12
twisted sonic 23-12 > inv twisted sonic rev 12-23
ta harmonic xD
ringaround harmonic
ta ext. T1-12 > shadow rev 12- some random slot
neo sonic 23-TF > FL TA > T1 or T2 or T3 charge
neo sonic 23-TF > fl ta ext. TF-12
counters are nice, but i can't really do them
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Date: Sat, Mar 28 2009 03:33:38
i remember you doing alot of direction changing combo's about a year and a half ago if i remember correctly, i think it looks nice for some styles of spinning only. I cant tell you with kind they are since im not even sure how they are classified anymore, semi slow style's i guess.
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Date: Sat, Mar 28 2009 03:59:08
something related to Charge Reverse 34 > (palmdown) Charge 34
NeoSonic 12-T1 > NeoSonic Reverse T1-12 or NeoSonic 12-T1 > NeoSonic Reverse T2-23 (this one feels pretty nice)
or like i.s.a.e said, something like ThumbAround Extended > Shadow Reverse T1-XX looks pretty nice
I also like PassAround 23-12 > Pass 12-23.
I'm also trying out Charge Reverse TF > Tipped Charge TF (horizontal motion - whatever you call it) > FL Shadow TF-12 > Shadow Reverse 12-34 > PinkyBak Reverse. It's really fun, lots of directional changes xD -
Date: Sun, Mar 29 2009 01:59:15
Direction changes look great, especially when done while going from palm up to palm down or vice-versa. The important part is doing it smoothly.
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Date: Sun, Mar 29 2009 02:55:04
mind you, it does start to look choppy when you have too many directional changes
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Date: Sun, Mar 29 2009 03:03:21QUOTE (k-ryder @ Mar 28 2009, 06:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>mind you, it does start to look choppy when you have too many directional changes
Not if you do it well. You should see pyralux's third solo video. Pyralux is the master of direction changes.
check out 2:20. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_EfahBMFPc it's just amazing... -
Date: Sun, Mar 29 2009 03:29:46QUOTE (i.suk.at.everything @ Mar 27 2009, 09:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>ringaround harmonic
counters are nice, but i can't really do them
Shut up...............
I like doing like top spins for a long time until the spin slows or stops, then do a baktap. -
Date: Sun, Mar 29 2009 15:22:10QUOTE (Huroni @ Mar 28 2009, 01:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>What do you guys think?
I think that direction changing is the most beautiful thing in penspinning. -
Date: Sun, Mar 29 2009 15:47:06
i used tipped sonic often
sometimes TF charge rev - Fl TA rev -> TF charge normal - FL TA (kinda like makin does) -
Date: Sun, Mar 29 2009 18:09:14
I think the most neglected ones are the counter taps or have a tap of some sort.
Examples:
Neo-backaround T1-12 > Backtap 12 > FL TA
TA 1.5 > Reverse half-tap > FL TA
Tap-fall(as I call it): Neo-backaround T1-12 > Backtap 12 > Neo-backaround T1-23 > Backtap 23-T1 > Neo-backaround T1-23 > Backtap 34-T1 -
Date: Sun, Mar 29 2009 20:16:49QUOTE (iMatt @ Mar 29 2009, 11:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I think the most neglected ones are the counter taps or have a tap of some sort.
Examples:
Neo-backaround T1-12 > Backtap 12 > FL TA
TA 1.5 > Reverse half-tap > FL TA
Tap-fall(as I call it): Neo-backaround T1-12 > Backtap 12 > Neo-backaround T1-23 > Backtap 23-T1 > Neo-backaround T1-23 > Backtap 34-T1
That's because no one uses taps in general. And I wouldn't call that a counter tap, it's just a tap.
@isuk
I agree, counters rock. I don't see anyone use it really though. My favorite counters are:
TA ~ Counter TA Rev ~ Counter TA or a Bak Rev ~ Counter Bak ~ Counter Bak Rev. I have trouble doing the latter though. I believe it's a Bak Rev...not too sure what the opposite of a Backaround (Weis) is. -
Date: Sun, Mar 29 2009 20:51:51
ah you fools, taps are the bomb
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Date: Mon, Mar 30 2009 10:52:08
These is the BEST direction change (IMO):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_EfahBMFPc" target="_blank">pyralux 3rd Solo - 1:53 to 1:56
and Inv Shadow > Palm Tap > FL TA
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Date: Mon, Mar 30 2009 14:11:11
toro totally owns at these man
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Date: Tue, Mar 31 2009 00:00:31
I think this might belong in the general discussion section, but it's not for me to judge.
Directional changes are kind of like balisongs, they can cut you and make you cry, but if used well, they can be beautiful. Even very simple directional changes really catch my attention if done well. -
Date: Tue, Mar 31 2009 12:07:32
i use a lot of
palm down normal <--> palm side rev
and
palm down rev <--> palm side normal
because i can do them smothly and it doesnt look like uve just gone and changed direction... like a sonic harmonic or somthing... it looks smooth
those can be done with just about anything
but going from palm down rev > palm side rev without obviously changing direction is harder... palm side rev > palm down rev is even worse
they require tricks to be done... in like a half way position?
like neobak 12-23 > warped sonic rev 23-12 (palm diagonal) > tw sonic rev 12-23 (palm side) > MA 23-23
or inv sonic 12-23 (PD) ~> pass 13-34 (PD) > pass 34-23 (diagonal) > sonic 23-12 (diagonal-palm side) > pass 12-t1 (palm side) > fl ta rev
ill post vids once i get my external working, hope ya'll understand -
Date: Tue, Mar 31 2009 20:43:40
I prefer simple changes, like just in the middle of a Twisted Sonic.
Inv Sonic Rev 12-23 ~Â Inv Twisted Sonic Rev 13-34 -> Sonic 34-23 ~Â Twisted Sonic 24-12 -
Date: Tue, Mar 31 2009 21:09:54
how about:
Twisted sonic bust ~> IndexBak
This one is one of my favorites -
Date: Wed, Apr 1 2009 01:00:00
It might be interesting if someone made a rather long combo in which very trick was a different direction to the last...
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Date: Wed, Apr 1 2009 01:26:11QUOTE (Charlie @ Mar 28 2009, 08:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Not if you do it well. You should see pyralux's third solo video. Pyralux is the master of direction changes.
check out 2:20. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_EfahBMFPc it's just amazing...
wow, he's amazing. that's what i want to be able to do in a few years
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Date: Fri, Apr 3 2009 08:58:05
toro is really good at direction changes
but somehow i can never work out what he is doing ==" -
Date: Fri, Apr 3 2009 11:03:11QUOTE (Mats @ Apr 1 2009, 09:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>It might be interesting if someone made a rather long combo in which very trick was a different direction to the last...
eww... ugly