UPSB v3
Approved Tutorials / Z-301R
My first mod
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Date: Fri, Nov 9 2007 23:17:32
This is my first mod, tell me what you think, if you have any questions, or need any help, drop me a pm, or ask here, dont hesistate to ask I don't want you to mess up.
Pen Stats:
# of pens used: 2 zebra f-301s
length: about 19cm
weight: more than a mxsa
cog: just below the seam(pen is a bit backheavy)
cost: about $3.50 total
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a69/Trevo...er/DSC00790.jpg
1)what you need
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a69/Trevo...er/DSC00792.jpg
2)set the pens in this order
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a69/Trevo...er/DSC00794.jpg
3)take out the clicker button thing, and get something to push out the white plastic clicker mechanism
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a69/Trevo...er/DSC00796.jpg
4)you should be able to see through it
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a69/Trevo...er/DSC00797.jpg
5)take one of the end parts of the pen, and bend out the clip, and remove it with the pliers, then take the pliers and break off the back part
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a69/Trevo...er/DSC00798.jpg
6)it should look like this
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a69/Trevo.../DSC00800-1.jpg
7)with your saw or w/e cut here
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a69/Trevo...er/DSC00802.jpg
8)should look like this
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a69/Trevo...er/DSC00806.jpg
9)now sand the sides down, so that its thin enough to slide in and out of the metal barrel
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a69/Trevo...er/DSC00816.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a69/Trevo...er/DSC00818.jpg
10)now cut it at 2.3 cm(on the side with the threads)
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a69/Trevo...er/DSC00809.jpg
11)now tape it to the part you just sanded(you may need superglue)
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a69/Trevo...er/DSC00814.jpg
12)screw the newly created part onto the end of the pen
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a69/Trevo...er/DSC00819.jpg
13)slide it on
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a69/Trevo...er/DSC00821.jpg
14)should look like this
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a69/Trevo...er/DSC00823.jpg
15)take ink tube, and put it on the table on its end, and slide the metal casing off
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a69/Trevo...er/DSC00825.jpg
16)put metal casing into the pen barel
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a69/Trevo...er/DSC00826.jpg
17)now put regular ink tube in there and the tip
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a69/Trevo...er/DSC00827.jpg
18)congrats, you're done!
edit: I used the dollar to compare size, I'm not trying to show off... -
Date: Fri, Nov 9 2007 23:21:29
winrar :>
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Date: Fri, Nov 9 2007 23:28:05
this tutorial is news to me... how come noboydy told me it was here and why isnt my name anywhere...
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Date: Fri, Nov 9 2007 23:30:32QUOTE (White_Sheath @ Nov 9 2007, 07:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>this tutorial is news to me... how come noboydy told me it was here and why isnt my name anywhere...
You pmed me saying you made it, yet you provided no proof, until then your name wont be there. -
Date: Fri, Nov 9 2007 23:51:26
he did make it, like...two months ago, look around on the show off your pens thread in either here or ucpsb (don't remember which one.)
k4s then reinvented it himself after looking at it (although i believe he made it as a mechanical pencil? my memory is not that great).
so that would make you the third person to make it without a tutorial -
Date: Fri, Nov 9 2007 23:56:41QUOTE (xshadowfire @ Nov 9 2007, 07:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>he did make it, like...two months ago, look around on the show off your pens thread in either here or ucpsb (don't remember which one.)
k4s then reinvented it himself after looking at it (although i believe he made it as a mechanical pencil? my memory is not that great).
so that would make you the third person to make it without a tutorial
who are you talking to, white sheath or me? -
Date: Sat, Nov 10 2007 00:00:07QUOTE (Trevor @ Nov 9 2007, 03:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>who are you talking to, white sheath or me?
Neither, he's talking abot K4S -
Date: Sat, Nov 10 2007 00:01:57QUOTE (KinXiom @ Nov 9 2007, 08:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Neither, he's talking abot K4S
His statement was directed at someone, I'm asking who. -
Date: Sat, Nov 10 2007 00:04:51
pics or it didn't happen.
as far as i know it goes
trevor posts in upsb (here) show off your pens thread > k4s remakes & creates tutorial, is given credit > trevor maeks tutorial for the sake of claiming something that is really his idea.
so
produce some evidence or its just some guy claiming things . . . -
Date: Sat, Nov 10 2007 00:08:50
wait, trevor was the one that posted it in show off your pens? damn my memory is really screwy :|
edit:QUOTE (K4S @ Sep 29 2007, 01:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Forth tutorial released by me, K4S. Concept for the mod by White_Sheath & Trevor.
looks like both of them came up with it?
edit2:
sneaky sneaky, posting a tutorial on your birthday, eh? -
Date: Sat, Nov 10 2007 00:14:00QUOTE (xshadowfire @ Nov 9 2007, 08:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>wait, trevor was the one that posted it in show off your pens? damn my memory is really screwy :|
I posted my mod like the 3rd day after upsb was up, however I didn't provide a tut, I was going to work on it, but school and work took up all of my time. K4S tried to make the same thing, however he used the wrong pen, I notified him of that mistake, so he made a tutorial, plastered his name all over it, and got credit for the mod. Then I come in asking why I didn't get credit, and I get shafted, a mod makes him take the topic down, until I gave him permission(and I didn't). then white sheath pms me saying he made this mod 2 years ago or something like that, yet provided no proof to back this up, then he told me that because he made it, he would go give K4S permission to put his mod back up(although I honestly don think he deserves that authority). I made this tutorial just to prove to people I made this, and to show others how to do it.
I know its just a pen, but it really pisses me off when people try to take credit for things I do. -
Date: Sat, Nov 10 2007 00:31:51
I saw your pen, i liked the look and i make the PENCIL version. I already told you that I did not INITIALLY give any credit because White_sheath has stated earlier that he made the pen and i was waiting for you to decide who actually made it first so i could give credit. I'll repeat that again....I was WAITING for you and white_sheath to sort your matter out so i could give credit where credit was due.
I never tried to steal your mod. Get your facts straight, son. -
Date: Sat, Nov 10 2007 00:51:01QUOTE (K4S @ Nov 9 2007, 08:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I saw your pen, i liked the look and i make the PENCIL version. I already told you that I did not INITIALLY give any credit because White_sheath has stated earlier that he made the pen and i was waiting for you to decide who actually made it first so i could give credit. I'll repeat that again....I was WAITING for you and white_sheath to sort your matter out so i could give credit where credit was due.
I never tried to steal your mod. Get your facts straight, son.
I never said you tried to steal it, I just said you didn't give me credit. I know why you didn't give me credit and this isn't an attack on you, I was however pissed that you didn't give us a little more time, on top of the fact that you didn't pm me, and that white_sheath pmd you before me, when he should have talked this over with me first.
And without pictures, or a forum post or anything, then I can't give white_sheath credit. If thats the case, I could just say I invented the MX 8 years ago, and just never took pictures or anything.
Do you see where I'm coming from? I think this might be just a big misunderstanding, but I do believe this issue could have been handled better. -
Date: Sat, Nov 10 2007 05:23:07
calm down the infantry sir haha. All that happened, was K4S put out a tutorial that was completed and finished before Trevor. He didn't steal anything, plus its a different mod, this is the pen, his was the pencil. simple as that
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Date: Sat, Nov 10 2007 15:51:21
.... i took a picture in the show your pens thread...
http://www.upsb.info/forum/index.php?showt...amp;#entry15151
believe me now and give me credit >:o -
Date: Sat, Nov 10 2007 22:02:19QUOTE (White_Sheath @ Nov 10 2007, 10:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>.... i took a picture in the show your pens thread...
http://www.upsb.info/forum/index.php?showt...amp;#entry15151
believe me now and give me credit >:o
Yeh, I don't get it...
That post is dated to 3 weeks ago, and the pen in that pic isn't
what's being discussed in this thread. -
Date: Sat, Nov 10 2007 22:09:26QUOTE (Trevor @ Nov 9 2007, 08:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I never said you tried to steal it, I just said you didn't give me credit. I know why you didn't give me credit and this isn't an attack on you, I was however pissed that you didn't give us a little more time, on top of the fact that you didn't pm me, and that white_sheath pmd you before me, when he should have talked this over with me first.
And without pictures, or a forum post or anything, then I can't give white_sheath credit. If thats the case, I could just say I invented the MX 8 years ago, and just never took pictures or anything.
Do you see where I'm coming from? I think this might be just a big misunderstanding, but I do believe this issue could have been handled better.
I did sent you a couple PM's though and you never responded so i PM'ed white_sheath next. He told me he worked out everything with you so i figured things were good. I probably could have waited a little longer so that's my bad, but i understand your skepticism. I thought white_sheath had old pics -
Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 00:18:28QUOTE (SpiN3Mz @ Nov 10 2007, 04:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Yeh, I don't get it...
That post is dated to 3 weeks ago, and the pen in that pic isn't
what's being discussed in this thread.
yes i posted it three weeks ago which is when i had found it... cause i had lost it in my room... my f301 is in the middle of the picture and all i did differently was put an hgg grip and an outsert on it... -
Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 01:07:48QUOTE (White_Sheath @ Nov 10 2007, 08:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>yes i posted it three weeks ago which is when i had found it... cause i had lost it in my room... my f301 is in the middle of the picture and all i did differently was put an hgg grip and an outsert on it...
go here: http://regex.info/exif.cgi/
Put the original image in that and take a screenshot of the data it comes out with, post the screenshot here, if it dates before mine I'll give you credit.
deal? -
Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 01:54:04
@ White_Sheath...
I could care less, but "I just found it 3 weeks ago" could be considered a
convenient excuse if you ask me...
@ Trevor...
Sounds like a sure way to resolve all this. Good job !
But you should post a link to that pic, it's too small to see in the thread at 50%...
You can kiiinda see the date, but you may wanna make it more clear that way
no one can mistake one number for another or w/e, lol. Ie. 0 for 8...ahaha -
Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 01:58:55QUOTE (SpiN3Mz @ Nov 10 2007, 09:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>@ White_Sheath...
I could care less, but "I just found it 3 weeks ago" could be considered a
convenient excuse if you ask me...
@ Trevor...
Sounds like a sure way to resolve all this. Good job !
But you should post a link to that pic, it's too small to see in the thread at 50%...
You can kiiinda see the date, but you may wanna make it more clear that way
no one can mistake one number for another or w/e, lol. Ie. 0 for 8...ahaha
If you click on the image it should resize. -
Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 02:29:23
trevor i have a question i have a gell 301 g-301 can i make it out of those???
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Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 04:30:45
Nice mod. Whoever the original creator. But thanks Trevor for putting up the tut.
It took me a while to get the taped part to stick together while screwing everything in and putting it all together.
It seems a little akwardly long in the hand, but it reality it's the same length as the MX.
Well good mod! thanks for the tut! -
Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 06:37:27
you know what... w/e im fine with no credit i just want everone to know i made it 2 years ago before i even knew wtf pen spinning was.....because unlike most of you i mod pens for fun at home cause my mom is a constricting bitch...so yea w/e take the credit
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Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 07:47:24
omg.nice pen.
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Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 09:41:45QUOTE (White_Sheath @ Nov 11 2007, 01:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>you know what... w/e im fine with no credit i just want everone to know i made it 2 years ago before i even knew wtf pen spinning was.....because unlike most of you i mod pens for fun at home cause my mom is a constricting bitch...so yea w/e take the credit
Lemme trim that statement down a bit...
"I have no proof that I made this pen first, so take the credit for the
damn thing ! Also on a side note my mom is very protective
of me so I have a lot of free time."
Mehh, maybe not so trimmed down after all, ahah. -
Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 20:19:54QUOTE (SpiN3Mz @ Nov 11 2007, 03:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Lemme trim that statement down a bit...
"I have no proof that I made this pen first, so take the credit for the
damn thing ! Also on a side note my mom is very protective
of me so I have a lot of free time."
Mehh, maybe not so trimmed down after all, ahah.
well you put it in better word :-/ -
Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 23:05:56
Does anyone know how you can remove the ink from the barrel to make it all metal without scratching it? Acetone maybe?
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Date: Mon, Nov 12 2007 01:41:29QUOTE (Outlander @ Nov 11 2007, 07:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Does anyone know how you can remove the ink from the barrel to make it all metal without scratching it? Acetone maybe?
maybe fingernail polish remover? -
Date: Mon, Nov 12 2007 13:49:14
dunno if your sarcastic but...most also call nail polish remover acetone...
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Date: Mon, Nov 12 2007 16:58:55
just a question does the pen clip get in the way?
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Date: Mon, Nov 12 2007 17:51:43QUOTE (bry @ Nov 12 2007, 09:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>dunno if your sarcastic but...most also call nail polish remover acetone...
Oh, my bad then, where I live we never call it acetoneQUOTE (Lefty @ Nov 12 2007, 12:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>just a question does the pen clip get in the way?
Although the pen is as long as the mx, I think it makes a better use of the space it has. I don't have problems with the clip being in the way. -
Date: Mon, Nov 12 2007 17:57:15
Acetone is an "ingredient" in nail polish remover.
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Date: Mon, Nov 12 2007 22:51:55
Is the tutorial pretty clear? Any suggestions on how to make it better?
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Date: Mon, Nov 12 2007 23:13:24
Posting actual pictures instead of url links would be better. If it says "you cant post because you have too many picture" just take the insignificant pics and change them back to links.
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Date: Tue, Nov 13 2007 02:55:27
how about a big ' fuck you ' to the 12 ( 15 ? ) year olds who can't click the links.
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Date: Tue, Nov 13 2007 06:22:01
I think that these zebra mods are different. The person should be given credit to the specific mod.i.e. in this case the Z-301R is to trevor. I made a g-301 with gel ink and will be releasing a tut soon. Just because they look alike, does NOT mean you mod it the same way. the F-301, G-301, and M-301 pens have DIFFERENT inner structures.
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Date: Tue, Nov 13 2007 07:01:16QUOTE (merajj @ Nov 12 2007, 10:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>how about a big ' fuck you ' to the 12 ( 15 ? ) year olds who can't click the links.
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It's not that people cant click links. It is simply easier to follow the tutorial if the pictures are posted instead of the person having to bring up a new picture every time they want to see the next step. It's up to you though to take my advice or not. -
Date: Tue, Nov 13 2007 07:21:58
And that's why the Text to Image extension for Firefox exists.
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Date: Tue, Nov 13 2007 07:36:13QUOTE (Rekkuuzan @ Nov 13 2007, 03:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>And that's why the Text to Image extension for Firefox exists.
Shush you :> -
Date: Wed, Nov 14 2007 03:35:12
Looks sexy. I especially like the red version. I have some black ones lying around so I'll have to make it sometime. I'm half done making the pencil version.
I didn't realize it until now but it looks like they have red, black, blue, green and purple (the colours refer to the grip and top cap).
Good job again Trevor. -
Date: Wed, Nov 14 2007 04:11:09
I really like this mod as I've used 301's for writing for a long time. Anyway, it looks like it'd break easily. How is it?
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Date: Wed, Nov 14 2007 13:07:28QUOTE (cyber penguin @ Nov 14 2007, 12:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I really like this mod as I've used 301's for writing for a long time. Anyway, it looks like it'd break easily. How is it?
I've dropped this thing so much, but it has yet to break. -
Date: Tue, Apr 22 2008 18:37:17
ok. right. So what kind of hack saw is that?
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Date: Wed, Apr 23 2008 00:08:19
figured out that you can use a bic round stic to connect the two bodies (its a very tight fit)
just another quick easy alternative...lol -
Date: Thu, Apr 24 2008 02:46:10QUOTE (Pwiggin34 @ Apr 22 2008, 08:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>figured out that you can use a bic round stic to connect the two bodies (its a very tight fit)
just another quick easy alternative...lol
DAMMIT MAN. you couldnt have posted that like 1 day ago!!! wtf. I spent like all night trying to superglue the freakin thing together.. i made a total mess. lol. Anyhow, i made one. the pencil mod is easier. I used electrical tape to hold them together. They are both working and look great...the pen one had superglue all over it, but i cleaned it off.
Lol, what a freakin day. ....bic pens....pfft. -
Date: Thu, Apr 24 2008 04:23:00QUOTE (CudOfCow @ Apr 23 2008, 09:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>DAMMIT MAN. you couldnt have posted that like 1 day ago!!! wtf. I spent like all night trying to superglue the freakin thing together.. i made a total mess. lol. Anyhow, i made one. the pencil mod is easier. I used electrical tape to hold them together. They are both working and look great...the pen one had superglue all over it, but i cleaned it off.
Lol, what a freakin day. ....bic pens....pfft.
sorry?
lol
did the same thing u did -
Date: Sun, May 4 2008 18:23:51QUOTE (xshadowfire @ Nov 9 2007, 05:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>he did make it, like...two months ago, look around on the show off your pens thread in either here or ucpsb (don't remember which one.)
k4s then reinvented it himself after looking at it (although i believe he made it as a mechanical pencil? my memory is not that great).
so that would make you the third person to make it without a tutorial
yes it was a mechanical penicl that K4S made! -
Date: Thu, May 8 2008 01:21:14
great mod not too great tutorial...i didnt understand it...
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Date: Tue, May 13 2008 20:18:44QUOTE (Boshi @ May 7 2008, 09:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>great mod not too great tutorial...i didnt understand it...
What part did you not understand?QUOTE (CudOfCow @ Apr 22 2008, 02:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>ok. right. So what kind of hack saw is that?
It's just a saw. I've lost it so I cant look at the brand or anything. I've since upgraded to a dremel. -
Date: Fri, May 16 2008 20:30:25QUOTE (Trevor @ May 13 2008, 04:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>What part did you not understand?
It's just a saw. I've lost it so I cant look at the brand or anything. I've since upgraded to a dremel.
I think it was a good tutorial, i made a few of them. They arent that good to spin with and i almost lost an eye with the pencil version, but i gotta say they are a lot of fun to make. I used my dremel too on this. The only hard part i had was with sanding down one of the hard plastic grip barrels and getting it to stay in there so the two halfs didnt fall apart. I used electrical tape and super glue. Works like a charm. Clicker works. Good job.
By the way, i was kidding about the saw. -
Date: Tue, May 20 2008 07:55:38
I made this pen and it broke the next day. I dont know but I'm pretty sure I messed up on the sanding of the hard plastic grip thing. but the thing is that the part that broke was the bottom plastic grip thing.Like the threads of it just broke clean off in the pen. I might make another one but I dont want it to break this quickly again. I think I should just go with the mechanical pencil one. Hopefully that one works out better
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Date: Wed, May 21 2008 14:56:03QUOTE (tylt @ May 20 2008, 03:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I made this pen and it broke the next day. I dont know but I'm pretty sure I messed up on the sanding of the hard plastic grip thing. but the thing is that the part that broke was the bottom plastic grip thing.Like the threads of it just broke clean off in the pen. I might make another one but I dont want it to break this quickly again. I think I should just go with the mechanical pencil one. Hopefully that one works out better
The pencil version is easier to make. Its still a pretty difficult mod to build if you dont have the proper tools. -
Date: Wed, May 21 2008 15:12:12QUOTE (CudOfCow @ May 21 2008, 06:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>if you dont have the proper tools.
Its not that i dont have the right tools i have a full dremel set pliers and the works. Its just it wasnt really clear in the tut
where your supposed to sand the plastic grips down. I'll try to make the pencil one soon. -
Date: Wed, May 21 2008 19:59:08QUOTE (tylt @ May 20 2008, 02:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I made this pen and it broke the next day. I dont know but I'm pretty sure I messed up on the sanding of the hard plastic grip thing. but the thing is that the part that broke was the bottom plastic grip thing.Like the threads of it just broke clean off in the pen. I might make another one but I dont want it to break this quickly again. I think I should just go with the mechanical pencil one. Hopefully that one works out better
Well since this thread is revived...
tylt you should cut a bic round stic and use the barrel to connect the two bodies
its easier, faster, and cheaper
Pwiggin -
Date: Tue, May 27 2008 01:21:50
I dont know if anyone mentioned this before, but instead of spending hours of sanding that thing to hold the pens together, use the rest of the part you cut. The only problem is you need to find an empty RSVP inktube or something thin to make it click instead of that other piece. Add some tape and voila.
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Date: Fri, Jun 27 2008 03:40:10
I took two f-130's and turned them into a double gripped, double tipped pen. I didn't extend the body of it, but i suppose you could if you wanted to.
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Date: Wed, Jul 2 2008 01:44:47
Nice BTW guess what i did to mine
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Date: Fri, Nov 7 2008 03:42:53
I did this one, but I put a put a grip from a TUL pen I had lying around. Here's a pic, sorry about the quality : /
http://www.keving.biz/hosted/z301.jpg -
Date: Sat, Nov 8 2008 00:39:33
i love this mod because nobody asks me what im writing with
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Date: Tue, Nov 25 2008 03:22:30
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a69/Trevo...er/DSC00816.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a69/Trevo...er/DSC00818.jpg
10)now cut it at 2.3 cm(on the side with the threads)
what exactly are you supposed to cut at this part?
it doesnt look like the sanded down part -
Date: Wed, Dec 17 2008 03:25:33
Hey can you right with this pen? i'm looking for some good pens to spin and right, i'm using the comssa retractable right now.
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Date: Wed, Dec 17 2008 05:52:17
dude, READ. dude, its WRITE. And it can.
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Date: Thu, Dec 18 2008 18:44:41
hey, i recently bought some more 301's when i was going to make this, but what happened to the metal thing that goes on the inktube? they dont sell them like that anymore
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Date: Thu, Dec 18 2008 22:10:58
that happened to me too when i bought the 301's recently. but i don't think it's necessary, considering it's already pretty heavy without it. i guess they just don't come like that no more in order to cut costs?, but at least it's lighter =)
QUOTE (BeckWreck @ Dec 18 2008, 10:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>hey, i recently bought some more 301's when i was going to make this, but what happened to the metal thing that goes on the inktube? they dont sell them like that anymore -
Date: Tue, Dec 30 2008 00:40:55
So in your steps 9, 10, and 11, you use two different parts right? You sand down the grip, take another pen, cut that, and then tape the two together? It's just that you don't specify as much as others.
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Date: Sun, Jan 4 2009 21:58:12
can someone make a tutorial video for this? i was able to follow until the cutting parts.
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Date: Thu, Mar 19 2009 23:07:25
Will G-301's sub for an F-301?
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Date: Sat, Apr 4 2009 16:20:39QUOTE (MoonlitJiro @ Mar 19 2009, 07:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Will G-301's sub for an F-301?
No, the clicking mechanism is different for the both of them. I've realized that this mod is difficult to do, so I'm releasing an update soon with a much easier way to do it. -
Date: Tue, Apr 28 2009 01:26:12
just throwing this out there but if u have gotten zebraz that dont have the metal casing on the ink....
i have a sulution the older zebraz that have metal caseing have a black bar at the bottom right of the back of the paper carboard holder and a wierd sign under it the newer ones dont have the bar and sign
well i hope i helped -
Date: Tue, Apr 27 2010 11:52:55
looks like this mood make conflic huh?? btw this mod uhmm a little bit suck for me. the barrel was very slippy,and very thin(for me). and also i didnt do it right so it very backmomentum. lucky the G2 grip make it more COP COG. i use it for wrighting. feels good. also it have a very elegant looking, make my friend though i buy it in the book store