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Presentation / Smoothness Vs Difficulty

  1. Ever
    Date: Thu, Apr 23 2009 02:39:39

    Not really the same as smoothness vs speed, so I thought I'd make a new thread. I've seen this a lot with ISAE's vids, people commenting on how his difficulty is great, but his smoothness needs work. Do you think difficulty should be practiced first, then continually practicing difficult tricks to get them smooth, or get your smoothness up to par first, then try focusing on difficult tricks?

  2. kenny158
    Date: Thu, Apr 23 2009 02:48:38

    Id still go with smoothness

  3. Awesome
    Date: Thu, Apr 23 2009 02:53:19

    Hmm, you need smoothness for anything to presentable imo, but you should work on difficult tricks at the same time so you can get the smooth when you need them.

    Difficult tricks shouldn't be presented until they are smooth, but you can practice them and work on smoothness, I think you need a balance between the two, but with a heavier emphasis on smoothness when starting out so you can have at least a basic repertoire smooth.

  4. Radiance
    Date: Thu, Apr 23 2009 03:04:38

    "get your smoothness up to par first, then try focusing on difficult tricks"

    practice is key.

  5. NoobishPenspinner
    Date: Thu, Apr 23 2009 03:07:12

    i would go with smoothness...

  6. Baaron
    Date: Thu, Apr 23 2009 03:10:09

    smoothness again

  7. PillarsOfValhalla
    Date: Thu, Apr 23 2009 03:14:26

    As Awesome said. Work on difficult tricks until you can get them smooth.

  8. Chobi
    Date: Thu, Apr 23 2009 03:26:54

    QUOTE (PillarsOfValhalla @ Apr 23 2009, 11:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    As Awesome said. Work on difficult tricks until you can get them smooth.

    QFT

  9. Charlie
    Date: Thu, Apr 23 2009 06:53:54

    I never complained about ISAE's smoothness, it's his style. His fingers aren't controlled and he uses a lot of excess handmotion/elbow motion.

    And it's not about smoothness, it's about Style. Style over difficulty. If you don't look good, then you no good. Not completely true, but you get what I mean.

  10. Erirornal Kraione
    Date: Thu, Apr 23 2009 06:55:14

    I think the greater question is whether you mean the linkages or the tricks being smooth. If it's the smoothness of the tricks themselves, I'd say smoothness is more important. But if it's the linkages between the tricks, I'd null. They're both important to me, then.

    Also, it's not necessarily the smoothness of ISAE's combos, it's his style which has a detrimental effect.

  11. Sian_ing
    Date: Thu, Apr 23 2009 09:28:59

    It isn't nice to keep using ISAE as an example ohmy.gif

    Anyway smoothness is more important to me, unless the difficult trick is really hot and crazy happy.gif

  12. i.suk.at.everything
    Date: Thu, Apr 23 2009 11:28:59

    smoothness: fixed
    arm movement: mostly fixed...
    fingers: getting there....

    k eventually. should be fine before my 2 year >__>

    w/e i don't mind being used as an example. i'll start minding when i've fixed everything.......

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    decent-ish combo.

  13. Charlie
    Date: Thu, Apr 23 2009 17:36:04

    Looks better ISAE. Keep at it. :]

  14. Edor
    Date: Thu, Apr 23 2009 19:31:53

    well i quess when you learn the hard stuff first then use those trick much you get smooth of it biggrin.gif if you understand >_>

  15. SJ
    Date: Thu, Apr 23 2009 22:55:38

    QUOTE (Charlie @ Apr 23 2009, 10:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Looks better ISAE. Keep at it. :]

    ...

    no offense isae but i dont see the difference.

  16. Joebob
    Date: Thu, Apr 23 2009 23:10:23

    smoothness... i've seen many easy fundamental combos that look really nice.

  17. Lanaro
    Date: Wed, May 13 2009 05:30:16

    I think it may depend.

    When presenting smoothness is a priority, but when your practicing, difficulty may be prioritized.

  18. octan3
    Date: Wed, May 13 2009 22:50:52

    its all about smoothness, u look at old school koreans, not as many hard tricks, epic smoothness

  19. Kaffatsum
    Date: Thu, May 14 2009 10:53:12

    I agree with most of the people, smoothness is the key. But after smoothness comes difficulty of course tongue.gif
    Smoothness = pen blur effect which is awesome

  20. Nam Dang
    Date: Fri, May 15 2009 02:37:52

    Is it stupid if I say that with me Difficulty of the tricks is the most important dry.gif
    I notice that nobody mention about difficulty

  21. bioshock
    Date: Fri, May 15 2009 06:21:24

    i would go with smoothness.
    even combos of fundamental tricks looks very nice when thery r smoothly performed. tongue.gif