UPSB v3
Advanced Tricks / Hai Tua
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Date: Mon, Jul 21 2008 12:06:01
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Date: Mon, Jul 21 2008 15:22:53
nice hybrid, looks like an extension of the handaround (reverse?) with a couple of FL TA's tacked on
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Date: Mon, Jul 21 2008 15:30:04
Holy fuck at the combo in the end o.o
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Date: Tue, Jul 22 2008 23:03:24
When I speak French in the shoutbox, everybody feels the need to remind me that UPSB is an international board, and for this reason the only language spoken should be the English, which is condierated as the only world language.
I do not agree. Conversations in the shoutbox are often not important, and anyways, when it's important, we talk English.
But what is in the threads is always important, or it's spam. That's why that should be told in English.
Uhhh, by the way the trick is really nice.
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Date: Wed, Jul 23 2008 00:38:16
Looks kind of like a TA ~ IPBA Rev. I do something like that but I instead of finishing it with a FL TA, I just catch it in my palm, but I've really gotta try that. It looks really cool.
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Date: Wed, Jul 23 2008 00:49:27
wow... really nice hybrid i guess how zombo wrote
but how do u do it TT.TT possible if u could put a breakdown to the hybrid and maybe translate it just like stay'n alive said 
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Date: Wed, Jul 23 2008 00:53:35
Interesting Hybrid
I actually wondered if this could perform at all after watching someone do a TA ~ IPBA and Key3's "Symmetrical Backaround" (Why he named that I don't know.....) -
Date: Wed, Jul 23 2008 00:56:39QUOTE (Roxas @ Jul 22 2008, 05:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Interesting Hybrid
I actually wondered if this could perform at all after watching someone do a TA ~ IPBA and Key3's "Symmetrical Backaround" (Why he named that I don't know.....)
Key3's hybrid and Peem's handaround > Fl TA are actually pretty similar. You use the same type of hand motion.
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Wait, nvm. I thought key3's hybrid was something like a Rev Pinkyindexbak ~> Fl TA. It's actually a Rev Pinkybak 34-TF. Different handmotions. -
Date: Tue, Aug 12 2008 06:14:37
Updated!
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Date: Wed, Aug 13 2008 10:56:10
Looks good....what pen were u using...Looks good!
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Date: Tue, Sep 2 2008 18:43:45
looks cool
but i cant do the ta ext to 34
can you give me some hints?
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Date: Wed, May 6 2009 03:26:05
I was wondering, what's the notation of this?
And this is really not counted as a trick, right?
And is it still counted as a Hai Tua if a Twisted Sonic wasn't performed before the FL TA? -
Date: Wed, May 6 2009 03:36:29
I can't do the trick but here are some links incase anyone wants to see it done
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqiz2-l7qEo <------- spinnerpeem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-C_iAbJPQg <------- vicgotgame -
Date: Wed, May 6 2009 03:41:39
I think its a hybrid trick im kinda sure..Still waiting for a video of a person doing a hai tua in the left hand..
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Date: Wed, May 6 2009 03:55:00QUOTE (kenny158 @ May 5 2009, 08:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Still waiting for a video of a person doing a hai tua in the left hand..
ZOMG that will be insane...
or synchronized hai tua!!!!
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Date: Wed, May 6 2009 05:59:08QUOTE (kenny158 @ May 5 2009, 08:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I think its a hybrid trick im kinda sure..Still waiting for a video of a person doing a hai tua in the left hand..
oh i guess i could make a vid
but i've been too lazy to film for a while now and i'm not sure if i'm doing my hai tua right anyways so nvm
also, i have no idea how to notate it i guess it's just (double fake t1-t1) > hai tua t1-t1 (>fl ta) -
Date: Wed, May 6 2009 06:18:27
Notation is TA ~ Handaround > FL TA.
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Date: Wed, May 6 2009 06:32:06QUOTE (Charlie @ May 6 2009, 02:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Notation is TA ~ Handaround > FL TA.
So the Tw. Sonic before the TA is not needed? In peem's vid there was a Twisted Sonic before the TA. And isn't it Ext. TA? And by notation, I meant the finger slots and stuff.
EDIT: And I did the TA ~ Handaround > FL TA and it looked different from Ext. TA ~ Handaround > FL TA. -
Date: Wed, May 6 2009 06:37:19
It's easier to get more momentum if you do the Twisted Sonic 23-12 before the Hai Tua. It's not necessary, though.
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Date: Wed, May 6 2009 07:10:54
hai tua with left hand isn't that crazy if you're left handed
i still do not get how vic does cont. hai tua Oo" even with the slow mo, i can't get angle correct >__>
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Date: Thu, May 7 2009 01:50:28QUOTE (i.suk.at.everything @ May 6 2009, 12:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>hai tua with left hand isn't that crazy if you're left handed
i still do not get how vic does cont. hai tua Oo" even with the slow mo, i can't get angle correct >__>
is hai tua hybrid or not?
Its probably a hybrid -
Date: Thu, May 7 2009 01:57:04
The hai tua is a mini-combo. TA ~ Handaround > FL TA. In peem's first vid first introducing the mini-combo, that's what he named it. No, he did not invent the handaround and I doubt hes the first to do TA ~ Handaround but he popularized it.
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Date: Thu, May 7 2009 02:46:38
I don't think it's a handaround, though.
I feel like it's simply an Ext TA ~> Shadow ~> PinkyBust -> FL TA
Edit: Originally had "Shadow Reverse" by accident. -
Date: Thu, May 7 2009 02:52:43QUOTE (Xero @ May 6 2009, 07:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I don't think it's a handaround, though.
I feel like it's simply an Ext TA ~> Shadow Reverse ~> PinkyBust -> FL TA
....What?
That's an interesting breakown. Plausible -- sort of -- but it's as I said, a TA ~ Handaround. You probably could argue against that, but I don't think are current naming system is good enough to notate such tricks perfectly. Another example would be trying to break down a twisted cobra bite in hybrid notation.
But peem has done his hai tua in a different fashion in his WT r2 vid, which is more spread like. -
Date: Thu, May 7 2009 03:58:10
CAN ANYONE FIND A VIDEO OF THE HAI TUA IN SLO-MO? oh damn caps..... i'm too lazy to go back and change that....
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Date: Thu, May 7 2009 04:20:52QUOTE (Charlie @ May 6 2009, 10:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>....What?
That's an interesting breakown. Plausible -- sort of -- but it's as I said, a TA ~ Handaround. You probably could argue against that, but I don't think are current naming system is good enough to notate such tricks perfectly. Another example would be trying to break down a twisted cobra bite in hybrid notation.
But peem has done his hai tua in a different fashion in his WT r2 vid, which is more spread like.
Well, look at it's similarities to the IPBA Rev 2.0, which is officially notated as:- Twisted Sonic Normal 23-12 > Indexaround Normal 12-12[p][s 1.0] ~ Devil's Shadow 12-34[s 1.0][c]
IMO, Hai Tua could be notated as:- Extended ThumbAround T1-12 ~> Shadow 12-12 ~> Devil's Shadow 12-34 ~> PinkyBak Reverse (to air) ~> Fingerless Thumbaround
I dunno, that's just my take on it.QUOTE (midnight_xhris @ May 6 2009, 11:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>CAN ANYONE FIND A VIDEO OF THE HAI TUA IN SLO-MO? oh damn caps..... i'm too lazy to go back and change that....
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=vicgot...mp;query=haitua -
Date: Thu, May 7 2009 04:53:52
Ah, I haven't bothered to learn formal notation. Dunno, I just find it a bit redundant.
But yeah, you have a point. -
Date: Thu, May 7 2009 13:31:16
IMO, this is most appropriate:
ThumbPinky BackAround REVerse [p T1] ~> FingerLess ThumbAround [c TF]
AKA:
TPBA Rev [p T1] ~> FL TA [c TF] -
Date: Thu, May 7 2009 13:36:46
peem did a tutorial before... he notated it as ext ta to 34 ~ FL TA
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Date: Thu, May 7 2009 14:11:43QUOTE (Sian_ing @ May 7 2009, 08:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>peem did a tutorial before... he notated it as ext ta to 34 ~ FL TA
That's totally wrong.
If it's "34", then it's supposed to go through the slot, not around the palm.
It's TPBA Rev. You can notice the same path by doing the IPBA Rev except that it starts from around the thumb.
IMO, this should not be notated "hai tua". There is nothing new. -
Date: Mon, May 11 2009 01:16:04
i love this tricks.. there is a secret to it.. well its more like my secret. i do the ta first then let the roataion to completely finsh then i let it go around my hand and finsh the last fl ta =)
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Date: Tue, May 12 2009 01:03:08QUOTE (sumPINOYkidstukinamerica @ May 10 2009, 08:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i love this tricks.. there is a secret to it.. well its more like my secret. i do the ta first then let the roataion to completely finsh then i let it go around my hand and finsh the last fl ta =)
thats what a haitua is...
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Date: Tue, May 12 2009 07:46:36QUOTE (vicgotgame @ May 12 2009, 11:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>thats what a haitua is...
No secret there.
the real secret is in how to do cont hai tua
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Date: Wed, May 13 2009 14:00:30
Id say its a:
ThumbPinkyBakSpin Rev -> Fl TA
aka HandAround Rev -> Fl TA
nearly the same as outsmash said, but:
- the bak rev is a spin (not important, i know^^)
- i dont know why all of those tricks are notated as hybrids... its a full TPBspin rev (ending in thumbflap) and a fl TA after it; every trick is done completely (the fl TA of double TA is comparable to the fl TA here and double TA is no hybrid either)
plz say me why hai tua (or tricks like devils around -> midbak rev) are notated as hybrids... am i right or did i get sth wrong?? -
Date: Thu, May 14 2009 11:17:23QUOTE (HeadBan(ger) @ May 13 2009, 04:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Id say its a:
ThumbPinkyBakSpin Rev -> Fl TA
aka HandAround Rev -> Fl TA
nearly the same as outsmash said, but:
- the bak rev is a spin (not important, i know^^)
- i dont know why all of those tricks are notated as hybrids... its a full TPBspin rev (ending in thumbflap) and a fl TA after it; every trick is done completely (the fl TA of double TA is comparable to the fl TA here and double TA is no hybrid either)
plz say me why hai tua (or tricks like devils around -> midbak rev) are notated as hybrids... am i right or did i get sth wrong??
In fact, we notate the "bakspin" as Backaround 1.5, 2.0, ...
So the same for "TPBspin", it's a ThumbPinkyBak Rev, like Outsmash already said.
But I would say something like Fl TA ~ IPBA Rev ~> Fl TA, because the "Thumbbackaround Rev" in the "TPbak Rev" is kinda confusing.
And it's an hybrid because you interrupt the first trick. In the IPBA Rev, the trick ends in 34, but you interrupt the catch and it ends in TF, and then you do the final Fl TA.
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Date: Mon, May 25 2009 10:45:20
#1.how many rotation is a haitua?
#3. the amount of rotations of my hai tua is 1.5 rotations, i dunnno why.
#4.is the fl ta 0.5 rotations of 1 round? -
Date: Mon, May 25 2009 11:28:50QUOTE (Outsmash @ May 7 2009, 10:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>It's TPBA Rev. You can notice the same path by doing the IPBA Rev except that it starts from around the thumb.
IMO, this should not be notated "hai tua". There is nothing new.
So instead of noting it as Hai Tua, it should be noted as TPBA Rev?
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Date: Mon, May 25 2009 12:06:37QUOTE (Charlie @ May 6 2009, 02:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Notation is TA ~ Handaround > FL TA.
It isn't TA because it doesn't go all the way around the thumb. Or at least I think so.
Shouldn't it be ext. TA?
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Date: Mon, May 25 2009 16:19:41QUOTE (Picora @ May 25 2009, 07:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>It isn't TA because it doesn't go all the way around the thumb. Or at least I think so. Shouldn't it be ext. TA?
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Date: Mon, May 25 2009 20:35:43QUOTE (Picora @ May 25 2009, 08:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>It isn't TA because it doesn't go all the way around the thumb. Or at least I think so. Shouldn't it be ext. TA?
but the ~ means the TA isn't being finished, sobut I think ext TA or TA would work in this case -
Date: Sun, Jun 14 2009 04:49:52
this would be a strange way of notating it but couldn't you say:
ext TA to air T1 - 4S ~ FLTA
In that S = side (for side of finger) -
Date: Sun, Jun 14 2009 16:14:04
Really its called:
TA [p1][s 0,5] ~ Backspin Reverse [s 1,0] ~ PinkyBackaround Reverse ~ FL TA. -
Date: Tue, Jun 16 2009 13:57:37QUOTE (sumPINOYkidstukinamerica @ May 10 2009, 09:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i love this tricks.. there is a secret to it.. well its more like my secret. i do the ta first then let the roataion to completely finsh then i let it go around my hand and finsh the last fl ta =)
that sounds like your making the hai tua harder than it is
the trick to the hai tua is to get your hand up as quick as possible so the pen can get around your hand...also the fl ta will come naturally once you get your hand turned around -
Date: Sun, Jun 21 2009 13:07:23
it took me 2 weeks to learn it so keep practicing
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Date: Wed, Oct 21 2009 12:27:10
does it count if i flip my hand 180 degrees?
i just wanted to know how reverse hai tua is like
is it rev ta to rev handaround to rev flta?
edit:
does playing a hai tua video backwards work?XD -
Date: Wed, Oct 21 2009 13:49:03
The notation is FL TA rev to handaround rev to TA rev..
Edit: nvm vicgotgame is right -
Date: Wed, Oct 21 2009 17:19:04QUOTE (pHLaSh @ Oct 21 2009, 09:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The notation is FL TA rev to handaround rev to TA rev..
No, that is way wrong...
This is how it looks:
Its more like fl. rev. ta 0.5 Tflap - palm -> rev. handaround 1.5 -> fl. rev ta 0.5... etc.
Dont know how to notate the first trick but that is how you do it. -
Date: Thu, Dec 17 2009 01:04:40
Just a video I made
This isn't the same style as most people do it. This is strat-style
Includes Hia Tua, Double Hia Tua, and Reverse Hia Tua -
Date: Thu, Dec 24 2009 13:02:14
I can do Extended Thumbaround and Twisted Sonic
But I just can't seem to connect them
When I do the Twisted Sonic, I can't do the Extended TA -
Date: Sun, Dec 27 2009 23:16:34
so for a hai tua, how long is the pen not in contact with the hand (btw. the point at which you start the handaround and the pen hits the thumb to finish with the FL TA ending)? it seems to me that when i try/do the trick, i often end up doing a crappy aerial hai tua. anything i'm doing wrong, or do i just need to practice it?
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Date: Thu, Feb 25 2010 15:19:11
Can sum1 give me tips on this trick? I cant seem to get the pen to spin around my hand.
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Date: Sat, Mar 13 2010 23:39:41QUOTE (RdHg @ Feb 26 2010, 12:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Can sum1 give me tips on this trick? I cant seem to get the pen to spin around my hand.
I always launch from twisted sonic (palmdown) > ext ta, then i let it spin like a reverse shadow until it goes at the end of the palm... and then you flip upwards
this always work for me, but i still can't seem to figure out how to do the fl ta at the end, i always just catch it after it goes around my hand :\ -
Date: Thu, Mar 25 2010 16:32:10
I have been spinning for 8 months, since july 2009, and ah have to say... I GOT MAH HAI TUA!!! I PULLED IT OFF!!!! JAH!!!
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Date: Sun, Mar 28 2010 03:17:00
I can do it at least 50% of the time =D yay
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Date: Thu, Apr 15 2010 05:23:30
i cant do hai tua, BUT I HAVE AN EASIER ALTERNATIVE MWAAHAAHA.
ta release > backhand bounce > ta catch. sounds retarded, but looks just like a hai tua
if you dont know what a backhand bounce is look in the wiki. the name kinda gives it away though xD -
Date: Mon, Apr 26 2010 20:31:56
I've always thought that his trick was kinda useless..
record is two. -
Date: Mon, Apr 26 2010 20:45:08
How's this?
The ending fl ta was a bit sloppy but i can do it better. -
Date: Wed, Apr 28 2010 15:45:31
How come most cubers penspin? Like me... lol weird
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Date: Wed, Apr 28 2010 19:43:52
Also, for people who are having trouble from tw sonic - ext ta... start at the bottom of the pen like you are doing a devil's sonic so it's much easier to link them.
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Date: Wed, Apr 28 2010 20:36:25
is this done correctly, or at least in an ok manner? tips?
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Date: Wed, Apr 28 2010 20:41:58QUOTE (Iota @ Apr 28 2010, 04:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>is this done correctly, or at least in an ok manner? tips?
Spoiler:
Yea Iota it looks good.
And here's a tutorial i made for anyone who needs it -
Date: Wed, Apr 28 2010 20:52:42
If you are learning the trick I recamend doing it the thumbaround way because you can control the speed that your spinning the pen. WIth twisted sonic way its harder to control how fast the pen is spinning and and how fast it is going across the top of your hand. I also find the thumbaround way to be smoother.
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Date: Wed, Apr 28 2010 21:07:46
lol kirby you can't even spell recommend ._.
But either way the twisted sonic gives the necessary momentum needed to do this trick. and the reason for starting with the twisted sonic is because its the easier way to use if you are finishing with it in a combo... otherwise its harder to link the thumbaround smoothly to the hai tua -
Date: Wed, Apr 28 2010 21:29:02
If anyone needs help with cont. haituas...
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Date: Wed, May 12 2010 23:10:55
Nice! I tried it but I ended up throwing my pen really far! I guess I should get better...
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Date: Sat, May 29 2010 09:17:37
My favorite tricks I love hai tua
I've learnt for begin hai tua like vicgotgame(with tw sonic bust) -
Date: Sat, May 29 2010 09:54:03
Vic's not doing it from a bust though. He uses a tossed ext. thumb around setup xD
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Date: Sat, Jun 5 2010 19:50:34
I just finished my tutorial on the Hai Tua trick..
Part One:
Part Two:
Hope this helps anyone that needs it -
Date: Tue, Jun 8 2010 09:26:54
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vj37z3ZsEhE
I bit confuse about the correct Hai tua trick, since someone criticize me about hai tua..
I made some mini combo of hai tua, please tell if there was an incorrect trick.. -
Date: Tue, Jun 8 2010 09:59:42QUOTE (GLAND @ Jun 8 2010, 05:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Spoiler:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vj37z3ZsEhE
I bit confuse about the correct Hai tua trick, since someone criticize me about hai tua..
I made some mini combo of hai tua, please tell if there was an incorrect trick..
your hai tua's dont go around ur thumb.. you tend to do a twisted sonic bust ~ aerial thing and then do a backhand bounce.. -
Date: Tue, Jun 8 2010 14:41:28QUOTE (KTrinh93 @ Jun 8 2010, 05:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>your hai tua's dont go around ur thumb.. you tend to do a twisted sonic bust ~ aerial thing and then do a backhand bounce..
wasn't his first 3 haitua's correct though? i know the one with the backhand bounce is wrong, but the first 3 he does doesn't have that
the only thing different that haitua and the regular haitua is that his starts with twisted sonic and regular starts with ext. ta -- but they both include the fl IA (bak rev), which makes it a haitua, no? -
Date: Tue, Jun 8 2010 15:43:50QUOTE (JC @ Jun 8 2010, 09:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>wasn't his first 3 haitua's correct though? i know the one with the backhand bounce is wrong, but the first 3 he does doesn't have that
the only thing different that haitua and the regular haitua is that his starts with twisted sonic and regular starts with ext. ta -- but they both include the fl IA (bak rev), which makes it a haitua, no?
They were like 99% right. If you do the twisted sonic start (which is still a real hai tua), you have to do the bust around your thumb and index finger. Another way to exlpain it is that the pen goes around the thumb. Also, think of it like the pen going over all FIVE fingers. If you do it right, it actaully makes the trick slightly easier.
EDIT: Look at vics triple hai tua vid. his goes around the thumb (correct way). -
Date: Tue, Jun 8 2010 18:49:47QUOTE (Kirby @ Jun 8 2010, 10:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>They were like 99% right. If you do the twisted sonic start (which is still a real hai tua), you have to do the bust around your thumb and index finger. Another way to exlpain it is that the pen goes around the thumb. Also, think of it like the pen going over all FIVE fingers. If you do it right, it actaully makes the trick slightly easier.
EDIT: Look at vics triple hai tua vid. his goes around the thumb (correct way).
Vic does them differently than most people, he does like a thumbindexbust?, so that the twisted sonic is actually hybridized into the trick.
Peem just does that twisted sonic in the beginning to get momentum.
Gland has the right technique, It will take almost no time to learn the thumb part. :/ -
Date: Tue, Jun 8 2010 20:45:26QUOTE (JC @ Jun 8 2010, 10:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>they both include the fl IA (bak rev), which makes it a haitua, no?
but if it doesnt include the thumb then is it really considered a handaround?
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Date: Tue, Jun 8 2010 20:53:42QUOTE (Nation @ Jun 8 2010, 01:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Vic does them differently than most people, he does like a thumbindexbust?, so that the twisted sonic is actually hybridized into the trick.
Peem just does that twisted sonic in the beginning to get momentum.
Gland has the right technique, It will take almost no time to learn the thumb part. :/
True it depends on if you consider the EXT TA or the thumbindexbust to be part of the hai tua, or just somthing to gain momentum before doing the trick. -
Date: Wed, Jun 9 2010 01:44:06
You guys are all taking this the wrong way...
Hai tua can be started tw sonic > ext ta, can start just ext ta, start like tw sonic bust and still going around your thumb, or it can be done started like an ipba rev... it does not necessarily have to go around your thumb... He did it right the first 3, thats the way i do mine because thats the way i prefer it. I can do it any of the possible ways but it does not have to go around your thumb in the beginning.
And with the backhand bounce combos... he is doing more of an aerial bust ~> hai tua, vic does the same thing when he does his power trick sessions and it's perfectly fine... just another way to incorporate it into his combos -
Date: Wed, Jun 9 2010 15:01:33
actually I could start with Ext Ta, but it harder to get momentum.
so what you guys mean backhand bounce (that I mean aerial > pinky back rev) is wrong, and pen must around all fingers?
I saw Vic's video Vicgotgame "Peem style" combos session and I think it fine, though now vic can do them smoothly handaround.
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Date: Thu, Jun 10 2010 09:52:58
i think doing twisted sonic is still correct because what you are doing is giving the trick to the thumb more momentum. what i tend to do is tw sonic to fl ta but do like a thumb index bust like vic then just do the hand motion to get it, and because it is really hard to do it with ext ta because your fingers are curled so that's why you need time to react
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Date: Thu, Jun 10 2010 15:50:29QUOTE (GLAND @ Jun 9 2010, 11:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>actually I could start with Ext Ta, but it harder to get momentum.
so what you guys mean backhand bounce (that I mean aerial > pinky back rev) is wrong, and pen must around all fingers?
I saw Vic's video Vicgotgame "Peem style" combos session and I think it fine, though now vic can do them smoothly handaround.
No no if you actually read my post, i said what you do is aerial bust ~> hai tua and vic does the same thing in his power trick sessions and that's perfectly fine just another way to incorporate it into your combos -
Date: Thu, Jun 10 2010 16:11:42
no, I mean post before you, (if I had not misread
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Date: Thu, Jun 10 2010 18:08:40QUOTE (KTrinh93 @ Jun 8 2010, 04:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>but if it doesnt include the thumb then is it really considered a handaround?
but we're not talking about handaround.. we're talking about haituas...
haitua =/= handaround -
Date: Thu, Jun 10 2010 18:12:59QUOTE (JC @ Jun 10 2010, 02:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>but we're not talking about handaround.. we're talking about haituas...
haitua =/= handaround
but isn't it a PART of a hai tua? the boss of the haitua -
Date: Sun, Jun 13 2010 09:59:43
is it possible to make the rev hai tua
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Date: Sun, Jun 13 2010 10:23:34QUOTE (sarugio1 @ Jun 13 2010, 05:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>is it possible to make the rev hai tua
The older post on this thread have already discussed this
a video from vicgotgame:
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Date: Wed, Jun 16 2010 23:25:08QUOTE (Spinnerpeem @ Jul 21 2008, 02:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
can u land it in diferent ways?
like .5 bakrev, .5 pbakrev, .5bakrev>busts
or will it be a dif trik?