UPSB v3
Pen Modifications / Toxic Fumes?
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Date: Mon, Jun 15 2009 22:16:57
I was cutting a few rsvp barrels when i noticed that after my 2nd barrel, my room smelled REALLY REALLY bad, then i snifffed the cut part of the barrel and knew it was coming from there.
So do u get smelly smells when u cut ur pens??? and is it bad??? -
Date: Mon, Jun 15 2009 22:20:09
Lol this is really weird... What do you use to cut your barrels with, a dremel?
I don't think plastic is toxic at all... -
Date: Mon, Jun 15 2009 22:22:33
Those are the chemicals that are used to make the pen itself. You are probably heating some sort of knife and then using it to cut the barrel. Don't inhale the fumes. They are bad for you.
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Date: Tue, Jun 16 2009 00:12:08
i use dollar-store scissors =]
but i dont think it matters what i use. -
Date: Tue, Jun 16 2009 00:14:51
its probably the plastic particles in the air from cutting the rsvp body
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Date: Tue, Jun 16 2009 00:22:03
oh noes, is it bad???
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Date: Tue, Jun 16 2009 02:04:18
yeah, i had that once
it starts smelling really bad after a while
i used the saw blade on my swiss army (yes, i have a whole swiss army)
i think i only had the experience with rsvp barrels
or else the other barrels that i've cut dont do that as much (hgg, g2, profile) -
Date: Tue, Jun 16 2009 02:08:29QUOTE (k-ryder @ Jun 15 2009, 07:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>yeah, i had that once
it starts smelling really bad after a while
i used the saw blade on my swiss army (yes, i have a whole swiss army)
i think i only had the experience with rsvp barrels
or else the other barrels that i've cut dont do that as much (hgg, g2, profile)
ya me too. especially wen u shave them. RSVPs must have some bad plastic or something -
Date: Tue, Jun 16 2009 02:19:57
never happened to me... are you using a heated object to cut teh barrels?
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Date: Tue, Jun 16 2009 02:23:41
i think its just the friction causing the heat
and with a saw, its not a smoothe cut either
it just hacks out small chunks of it out
that might increase the toxic-fume-giving-offy effect -
Date: Tue, Jun 16 2009 06:16:25
/ knows that if u burn plastic, toxic comes out.
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Date: Tue, Jun 16 2009 15:16:17
no, my scissors are not heated.
is there a utensil im suppose to use that wont cause the fumes??? -
Date: Tue, Jun 16 2009 15:33:09
Any hard barrel contains toxic items in raw form, but it's simply in a malleable form, which is how you got the plastic in the first place.
When you add friction or heat to this hardened form the particles will begin releasing.
The heat is what is what acts as a catalyst to the smell.
Example: When eggs go bad and tossed away on a hot-day, the smell will seems as if it's absolutely putrid.Handy Tips ->If you want to rid the smell, dunk the barrel into cold-water after making the cuts or filingDate: Tue, Jun 16 2009 15:44:47after? but the instant my scissors touches the barrel, it smells like chewbacca without showering for a year
Date: Tue, Jun 16 2009 15:50:03well,i think u should Hold Your breath and on the fan at full speed to ensure your safety:)
Date: Tue, Jun 16 2009 15:52:05QUOTE (RoastBeef @ Jun 16 2009, 10:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>after? but the instant my scissors touches the barrel, it smells like chewbacca without showering for a year
Then don't use scissors. They make really bad cuts anyways.
Just go grab a hacksaw, cut your barrel, file it smooth and then dip it in cold water. Problem solved.Date: Tue, Jun 16 2009 15:52:29might work, but then the whole house will stink?
Date: Tue, Jun 16 2009 16:37:58QUOTE (RoastBeef @ Jun 16 2009, 08:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>might work, but then the whole house will stink?
I don't think so. I had your problem awhile back (when I didn't have a hacksaw and used a razor for cutting)
It stunk for a couple hours, but it went away then next day.
I don't know why it has the smell though.
Date: Tue, Jun 16 2009 16:53:49i dont have a hacksaw, the best i probably have is a x-acto knfie
Date: Tue, Jun 16 2009 17:30:50Never had the whole house stink before. At most it was only my room for about 30-60seconds before it diffused away.
Mine usually comes from a heated blade. The strongest fumes come from G3s and Bic round stic grips. The part where you cut for the ZT mod.
Never cut an RSVP barrel before i so i don't know. G2s are clean. Sometimes they stink though.
And dont breathe them. in. Hold your breath for awhile or face your head away.Date: Tue, Jun 16 2009 17:37:45the only time i have gotten that smell is from cutting rsvp barrels. when i go to cut the part of it the grip is on, i use needle nose plyers and it creates a lot of friction with causes it to smell
Date: Tue, Jun 16 2009 18:34:10QUOTE (microman_32245 @ Jun 16 2009, 09:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>the only time i have gotten that smell is from cutting rsvp barrels. when i go to cut the part of it the grip is on, i use needle nose plyers and it creates a lot of friction with causes it to smell
same here, but when i cut bic sticks, i cant smell anythingDate: Mon, Nov 9 2009 22:21:57you're cutting the barrel with a heated object, there can be dangerous fumes.
I had that too , and it smelled really really badDate: Sun, Nov 15 2009 02:23:56Yeah, the plastic dust from RSVP barrels smell terrible.
So do the fumes.Date: Sun, Nov 15 2009 03:46:14QUOTE (timoke6 @ Nov 9 2009, 03:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>you're cutting the barrel with a heated object, there can be dangerous fumes.
I had that too , and it smelled really really bad
the object wasnt heated, in fact it was a pretty cold morning
i recently cut a g2 and there were no fumes, so it was just the rsvp =[Date: Sun, Nov 15 2009 05:29:59close the room door when you're cutting
when there's a smell open the window
and get the hell out of your room and close the door
wait for 30 minutes
go in and hopefully your room is back to normalDate: Tue, Nov 17 2009 22:00:44QUOTE (zuolin @ Nov 15 2009, 12:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>close the room door when you're cutting
when there's a smell open the window
and get the hell out of your room and close the door
wait for 30 minutes
go in and hopefully your room is back to normal
Someone ban him again.Date: Tue, Nov 17 2009 22:34:52this happened to me once
when i started to smell the smelly smell i felt the barrel and it was HOTT, really hot
so maybe it has to do with the plastic starting to melt?Date: Tue, Nov 17 2009 22:41:50that's exactly what it is. Plastic itself is not toxic. the raw materials are though. Best not to breathe it in try to hold your breathe when you drill/dremel. I do the hardcore cutting and grinding in the garage with a fan on
Date: Tue, Nov 17 2009 23:23:35QUOTE (RoastBeef @ Jun 16 2009, 10:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>after? but the instant my scissors touches the barrel, it smells like chewbacca without showering for a year
I've never had this problem, and I cut and file RSVP's all the time..
hmmDate: Wed, Nov 18 2009 02:07:49Just a keep the air circulation in your room open.
YOU can probably look up something online that you can set up that will keep fresh air going through your room from your window with a few fans.
If it smells bad it's probably bad for you ;]. Plus its plastic. A little bit wont hurt but I wouldn't suggest sniffing it like you did > _ >.Date: Fri, Dec 4 2009 07:30:45You're getting fumes because you're cutting the plastic too quickly. Patience is key when working with softer materials. Slow down the drill or dremmel, and work slower. You run fewer risks of warping the plastic when you work slowly, and you won't burn the plastic if you work slowly.
Plastic shavings might make you sneeze, but they're non-toxic. The fumes however, are hazardous to your health. Work near a fan and some fresh air. Or at the very least in a large open room.
I've been cutting up pens and plastic stuff since before the UPSB existed. A few of the old timers might remember me. So trust me. Slow it down. Your pens will come out better for it, and so will you.Date: Sat, Dec 12 2009 22:58:33QUOTE (RoastBeef @ Jun 15 2009, 04:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I was cutting a few rsvp barrels when i noticed that after my 2nd barrel, my room smelled REALLY REALLY bad, then i snifffed the cut part of the barrel and knew it was coming from there.
So do u get smelly smells when u cut ur pens??? and is it bad???
If you cut too quickly, it could start smoking and thats where the smell would come from, and yes, plastic burning has toxic fumes.Date: Tue, Dec 22 2009 13:48:14QUOTEYou're getting fumes because you're cutting the plastic too quickly.
Correct. Slow down a bit, and just relax. The fumes ARE toxic, as the raw materials are being released out of the pen.QUOTEJust a keep the air circulation in your room open.
This too. What my brother does is go out in the garage with the garage door open, and sit on the workbench with a fan next to him on full blast. I do the same thing when I spray paint anything.
I didn't find any information on what EXACTLY you're breathing in, but it is toxic.