UPSB v3
General Discussion / World Cup 08 - Draw Complete!
Official announcement
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Date: Mon, Nov 19 2007 05:30:10
OFFICIAL WEBSITE: http://www.worldcup08.co.nr/
Hi,
So I want to put an official announcement that me and Crash have decided to go forth with the idea of a World Cup in 2008. This is NOT the World Tournament, so don't even ask. This is a team tournament which will run every other year (in alternance with the World Tournament).
I have written two wiki articles with more info:
http://www.upsb.info/wiki/index.php/World_Cup
http://www.upsb.info/wiki/index.php/World_Cup_format
Nothing is set in stone yet, so rules and dates can change anytime.
I have also assembled the team for UPSB which I will be managing.
Every spinner has confirmed their presence so I'm pretty sure this is the lineup we're going to send on day 1 of competition:
- ChauTran
- DaThroat
- Eriror
- Scott Shaputis
- Toast
- Vicgotgame
Notice the list is in alphabetical order. This is because we don't know yet who will be a starter or a substitute yet. We will go with whoever's spinning best at the moment. Also note that the role of the spinners may change during the course of the tournament.
If you have a question, PLEASE make sure it has not been answered in the wiki already. Me or Crash will then gladly answer. -
Date: Mon, Nov 19 2007 05:36:07
I am very honored to be allowed to take part in this tournament, thank you very much for inviting me to this great life experience.
I will definitely do my best to represent my home, UPSB.
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Date: Mon, Nov 19 2007 06:13:10
Thank you for the invitation to this event. I will do my best for the UPSB Team.
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Date: Mon, Nov 19 2007 06:17:13
definitely honored by this chance to participate in this event. i will do my best for UPSB.
in fact, training starts NOW! -
Date: Mon, Nov 19 2007 06:21:31
good luck for your guyz..do the best
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Date: Mon, Nov 19 2007 06:43:08
*Is surprised to not see Pho in there* him and DaThroat are pretty much the same though. Really glad that Chautran is in there this time. Looking forward to it.
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Date: Mon, Nov 19 2007 08:22:48
Would a spinner that could also represent another board not be able to represent UPSB? (Talking about me, I might represent SweSpin. Does that mean I can't represent UPSB? Just want the information, not looking to join the UPSB team or anything
)
Awesome team though, nice Genesis lineup
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Date: Mon, Nov 19 2007 08:26:29QUOTE (Sfsr @ Nov 19 2007, 12:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Awesome team though, nice Genesis lineup
Lonely Eriror.
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Date: Mon, Nov 19 2007 14:45:17QUOTE (Sfsr @ Nov 19 2007, 03:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Would a spinner that could also represent another board not be able to represent UPSB? (Talking about me, I might represent SweSpin. Does that mean I can't represent UPSB? Just want the information, not looking to join the UPSB team or anything )
Awesome team though, nice Genesis lineup
yea, I'm only picking ppl from UPSB only. -
Date: Mon, Nov 19 2007 16:11:35
Well good luck to you guys
UPSB Ftw -
Date: Mon, Nov 19 2007 16:35:32
good luck to gpc... seems like spin is making the organization for us
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Date: Mon, Nov 19 2007 18:12:43
Spin = McDudelsaeck, for UPSB people.
What's wrong with that? I think Spin is great... -
Date: Mon, Nov 19 2007 18:20:26QUOTE (Sfsr @ Nov 19 2007, 01:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Spin = McDudelsaeck, for UPSB people.
What's wrong with that? I think Spin is great...
who said he was bad?
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Date: Mon, Nov 19 2007 20:16:59
wow the pros all lined up...
good luck guys.
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Date: Mon, Nov 19 2007 21:26:44
Sounds good. Just one thing.
I'm curious how the time schedule is in the group play. You say that one round is 4 weeks, and that group play should be 4 rounds total. But during that time you need to do 8 matches? Should The first part of the time schedule is gone since we all pick the spinners in the beginning.
Still 3 weeks left tho. =/ -
Date: Mon, Nov 19 2007 21:32:44QUOTE (mhig @ Nov 19 2007, 02:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>wow the pros all lined up...
good luck guys.
a buncha pros, then myself. -
Date: Mon, Nov 19 2007 21:53:02QUOTE (Ceedgee @ Nov 19 2007, 04:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Sounds good. Just one thing.
I'm curious how the time schedule is in the group play. You say that one round is 4 weeks, and that group play should be 4 rounds total. But during that time you need to do 8 matches? Should The first part of the time schedule is gone since we all pick the spinners in the beginning.
Still 3 weeks left tho. =/
there's 2 group stage rounds, each group stage round last one month.
during each group stage, your team plays 4 matches AT THE SAME TIME.
so in total you have 8 matches with 2 rounds. -
Date: Mon, Nov 19 2007 22:57:38QUOTE (Zombo @ Nov 19 2007, 10:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>there's 2 group stage rounds, each group stage round last one month.
during each group stage, your team plays 4 matches AT THE SAME TIME.
so in total you have 8 matches with 2 rounds.
Do you record one video for all 4 battles or 4 different videos? -
Date: Mon, Nov 19 2007 23:17:59
4 different videos of course,
once all the matchups are made, its everybody on their own. -
Date: Tue, Nov 20 2007 04:15:27
Go Scott
Rape them all =) -
Date: Tue, Nov 20 2007 08:23:52
I wouldn't be surprised if he did rape everyone just to get them out of the competition :P
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Date: Wed, Nov 21 2007 00:20:44
Ahhahahh we got in. Thanks Zombo.
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Date: Wed, Nov 21 2007 03:10:34QUOTE (Tim @ Nov 18 2007, 10:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>*Is surprised to not see Pho in there* him and DaThroat are pretty much the same though. Really glad that Chautran is in there this time. Looking forward to it.
Heh I doubt Id have enough time to film for all those battles. Im pretty busy this year and I dont think my skill level can compete with those from the other boards. I still gotta imrove a bit more. DaThroat's unique style gives him an edge over those other "korean style" spinners so he has a better chance then me. Good luck to you guys! -
Date: Wed, Nov 21 2007 08:18:01
Good luck to everyone participating!
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Date: Tue, Nov 27 2007 02:39:27
wow nice idea
team battle wonder how will it go
send me a email if you need help getting info to PDS~ -
Date: Tue, Nov 27 2007 05:03:40
thx joshy, but I believe Crash has already contacted PDS and they're already in the process of selecting their team.
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Date: Tue, Nov 27 2007 17:21:19QUOTE (Zombo @ Nov 26 2007, 09:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>thx joshy, but I believe Crash has already contacted PDS and they're already in the process of selecting their team.
yes i saw the post
i'm translating the rules~ -
Date: Tue, Nov 27 2007 22:32:32
it looks like the format is really similar to the team spinning tournament with a few changed and modifications. I really like the looks of it and best wishes for upsb
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Date: Wed, Nov 28 2007 23:01:28
Quick Questions
1.Are the 10 penspinning boards posted on wiki 100% participaing in the WC08?
2.From group matches to semi final how are you going to match the teams up?
I mean in the semifinal
Group A Group B
1st vs 2nd
2nd vs 1st
is the match up going to be like this or just random.
3. It said WC08 will have 2 rounds of Group Matchs that means each spinners have to make 4 videos at once
and total of 8?
4. I don't understand what you mean by judge votes when teams have a tie can you explain more about it?
Last Q.
5. In the Group Matches winning team get 3 poins 0 for loss 1 for tie so
Team A Team B
win lose
lose win
lose win
win lose
if that happens
is the score A 2 : B 2 so each team gets 1 point? or
since there are 2 wins for each team they each get 6 points?
Thanks
p.s PDS had agreed to participate in the WC08 and we are currently pick 6 spinners -
Date: Wed, Nov 28 2007 23:38:20
IS there actually a competition place? or do they just film themselves?
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Date: Thu, Nov 29 2007 00:11:53
they just film it themselves.
did you actually expect a live competition? -
Date: Thu, Nov 29 2007 01:02:37QUOTE (Joshy @ Nov 28 2007, 06:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>...
1. Yes, every single community is currently or has already selected their team.
2. Yes it is as you said. The #1 of group A will fight #2 of group B, and #1 of B vs #2 of A, just like in FIFA.
3. No, in each round each spinner is fighting only against one opponent only, so you make one video.
4. For each match, judges have to decide which of the two videos is better. So if there are 5 judges, then you can win a match 3-2, 4-1 or 5-0. Each of those count as one judge vote. So a team wins each of its 4 matches by a count of 5-0, it has in total 20 votes.
5. No, you're not fighting 4 times against the same team.
Let me give an example on how the group rounds work:
Suppose that in a group we have Team A, Team B, Team C, Team D, Team E. Team A has the spinners A1, A2, A3, A4, A5, A6, team B has the spinners B1, B2, B3, B4, B5, B6, etc...
If I am Team A, then I have to send a spinner to fight Team B, another one to fight team C, another one to fight team D, another to fight team E. Likewise, team B sends one spinner to fight team A, one to fight team C, one for team D, one for team E, etc.
Now team A manager sends this lineup to Crash: A1 fights B, A3 fights C, A2 fights D, A4 fights E.
team B manager sends his lineup: B2 fights A, B5 fights C, B6 fights D, B1 fights E.
team C manager sends his lineup: C3 fights A, C2 figths B, C4 figths D, C6 figths E.
team D manager sends his lineup: D4 fights A, D5 fights B, D3 figths C, D2 fights E.
team E manager sends his lineup: E6 fights A, E2 figths B, E5 fights C, E1 fights D.
Now crash has all the lineups, he compares them and build the matchups:
Team A said they sent A1 to fight B. And team B said they send B2 to fight A. Therefore there will be a 1vs1 match A1 vs B2.
Team A said they sent A3 to fight C. And team C said they send C3 to fight A. Therefore there will be a 1vs1 match A3 vs C3
Team A said they sent A2 to fight D. And team D said they send D4 to fight A. Therefore there will be a 1vs1 match A2 vs D4
Team A said they sent A4 to fight E. And team E said they send E6 to fight A. Therefore there will be a 1vs1 match A4 vs E6
Team B said they sent B5 to fight C. And team C said they send C2 to fight B. Therefore there will be a 1vs1 match B5 vs C2
Team B said they sent B6 to fight D. And team D said they send D5 to fight B. Therefore there will be a 1vs1 match B6 vs D5
Team B said they sent B1 to fight E. And team E said they send E2 to fight B. Therefore there will be a 1vs1 match B1 vs E2
Team C said they sent C4 to fight D. And team D said they send D3 to fight C. Therefore there will be a 1vs1 match C4 vs D3
Team C said they sent C6 to fight E. And team E said they send E5 to fight C. Therefore there will be a 1vs1 match C6 vs E5
Team D said they sent D2 to fight E. And team E said they send E1 to fight D. Therefore there will be a 1vs1 match D2 vs E1.
In total you have 10 matches which uses 20 spinners, 4 from each of the 5 teams. Each team has 1 spinner fighting each of the 4 other teams. So now the spinners send their videos, and the judges vote for each battle. Suppose here are the results:
A1 vs B2: A1 wins
A3 vs C3: A3 wins
A2 vs D4: A2 wins
A4 vs E6: A4 wins
B5 vs C2: draw
B6 vs D5: B6 wins
B1 vs E2: B1 wins
C4 vs D3: C4 wins
C6 vs E5: C6 wins
D2 vs E1: E1 wins
Now you build the ranking for every team:
Team A: 4 victories = 12 points.
Team B: 2 victories, 1 draw, 1 loss = 7 points.
Team C: 2 victories, 1 draw, 1 loss = 7 points.
Team D: 4 losses = 0 points.
Team E: 1 victory, 3 losses = 3 points.
Then you repeat again for round 2.
Then you have your final ranking.
You take the two best to go to semi-finals, same thing for the other group. -
Date: Thu, Nov 29 2007 04:42:42
Ya, It would be cool to have a live competition, more lively:)
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Date: Thu, Nov 29 2007 04:43:46QUOTE (NoRice4U @ Nov 28 2007, 11:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Ya, It would be cool to have a live competition, more lively:)
give me the cash to fly 60 spinners to canada from Europe, Asia and America and I'll do it. -
Date: Thu, Nov 29 2007 04:46:51
Sure, *runs off to the bank with the x-acto knife i use for modding*
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Date: Thu, Nov 29 2007 04:50:05QUOTE (Zombo @ Nov 28 2007, 08:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>give me the cash to fly 60 spinners to canada from Europe, Asia and America and I'll do it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Make-A-Wish_Foundation
Maybe we can get Eso and his abs of steel to somehow hurt me.
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Date: Tue, Dec 4 2007 01:59:15
as announced in the podcast #4 thread, the official start of the World Cup is January 19th, 2008.
Right after the podcast is over, the two groups will be known, and the managers will be able to send their lineup, which indicates which spinner they are going to send to fight which other team in their group. -
Date: Thu, Dec 6 2007 18:04:21
I've updated the wiki page, it includes the date of the start of the tournament and the drawing procedure.
http://www.upsb.info/wiki/index.php/World_Cup
Here are some (mostly confirmed) team lineups:
FPSB
Banz
Scouto
S777
Tikle
Six
Lalalilalo
SweSpin
Ceedgee
Ã…lan
FireFaith
Sfsr
Pe/PDR
Hamor
THPSC
Dongza
Mez
MJ
Highwave
Longhorn
Golfzabemix
/* Not confirmed (Sorry!)
PPP
Przemo
Rarka
Zaliwaja
Kruk
Thelian
FeniX
(Fafik) <-- don't know why there are 7 names...
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Date: Thu, Dec 6 2007 18:10:34
7 names because we have more people, only 4-5 are 100%. I'll choose remaining ones in the end of month.
Who confirmed it? coz I didn't send it...
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Date: Thu, Dec 6 2007 18:12:06
ok sorry, I wrote that list myself, I thought it was 100% but obviously I don't read polish very well
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Date: Thu, Dec 6 2007 20:44:08
Did you put the teams on the wiki? Can't find them there... Here's GPCs lineup, not yet 100% confirmed though.
- McDudelsaeck
- Le0n
- Alucard
- Maniok
- Stuhl
- ???
Talk to Spin/McDudelsaeck on IRC if you need more information Zombo ^^ -
Date: Thu, Dec 6 2007 20:48:35
no I didn't put it,
I know many more teams (such as GPC), but because they're not confirmed or have missing members, I'm not putting them up. -
Date: Thu, Dec 13 2007 03:16:52
i've just asked Mr.LSC about the tournament.. he told me that he doesn't want to participate in the world cup because he feels he's being ordered to participate just because the rest of the world is. he also said that he wasn't even asked to participate..
so yea.. PDS isn't going to participate.. -
Date: Thu, Dec 13 2007 03:29:52
So that leads to only KPSA representing Korea?
A bit sad PDS turned out that way... -
Date: Thu, Dec 13 2007 03:51:55
meh, KPSA has all the best spinners anyway. many spinners dislike PDS and Mr.LSC so I'm not surprised.
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Date: Thu, Dec 13 2007 04:32:58QUOTE (Zombo @ Dec 12 2007, 07:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>meh, KPSA has all the best spinners anyway. many spinners dislike PDS and Mr.LSC so I'm not surprised.
that e becos he ovachag on sheeping to north amerdica
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Date: Thu, Dec 13 2007 05:24:13QUOTE (NoRice4U @ Dec 12 2007, 11:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>that e becos he ovachag on sheeping to north amerdica
... that has nothing to do with it... you're lucky I understood that or I would have fined you for spamming
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Date: Thu, Dec 13 2007 08:07:51
We had some problem getting PDS + KPSA = KOREAN TEAM
cause MR.LSC acted like a kid ............... ã…¡.ã…¡;;
He told me to take care of everything about the WC08
and i felt the same way about the KPSA having the best KOREAN spinners
so i posted a topic saying
"KPSA is representative of KOREA in WC08"
and in p.s i said "I want to be the manager ha ha plz"
and MR.LSC kicked me off from BM... in PDS
for helping KPSA or something...............;;; -
Date: Thu, Dec 13 2007 08:15:10
Mr. LSC is ridiculous..
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Date: Thu, Dec 13 2007 11:42:59QUOTE (Joshy @ Dec 13 2007, 07:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>so i posted a topic saying
"KPSA is representative of KOREA in WC08"
and in p.s i said "I want to be the manager ha ha plz"
and MR.LSC kicked me off from BM... in PDS
wow that's gay.. -
Date: Thu, Dec 13 2007 23:57:15
PDS vs. KPSA would've been entertaining
(KPSA=default own)
....has KPSA finalized its team yet? -
Date: Fri, Dec 14 2007 00:22:51
nope.. not yet..
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Date: Wed, Dec 19 2007 01:53:04
JEB finished voting, here's their team:
ayatori[ES] 　
key3 　　　　　
SAIZEN 　
kUzu[ES] 　
Pesp[ES] 　
toro[ES] 　　
I thought NIKoo would have made it before toro, but I guess not. -
Date: Wed, Dec 19 2007 02:08:49
ayatori and key3 were kind of obvious competitors from the start. Majority are Evolution Spinners, lol. Nice to see kUzu on the line-up as well. :)
Edit: ...Just checked the list nominees. I can't believe Zndice/deric was a candidate; too bad he barely got any votes. -
Date: Wed, Dec 19 2007 03:59:05
I just noticed the conspicuous absence of RYO and ps728
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Date: Wed, Dec 19 2007 04:08:28QUOTE (Crzyazn @ Dec 18 2007, 10:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I just noticed the conspicuous absence of RYO and ps728
have to bring in new blood, pretty sure those spinners have been surpassed alrdy. -
Date: Wed, Dec 19 2007 11:47:20QUOTE (Sfsr @ Dec 6 2007, 09:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Did you put the teams on the wiki? Can't find them there... Here's GPCs lineup, not yet 100% confirmed though.
- McDudelsaeck
- Le0n
- Alucard
- Maniok
- Stuhl
- ???
Talk to Spin/McDudelsaeck on IRC if you need more information Zombo ^^
Thats the GPC team (confirmed by Spin)
Alucard
Maniok
Le0n
Stuhl
Spin
Minwoo -
Date: Tue, Jan 1 2008 15:55:51
dun dun dun,
team KPSA:
Nory
Nagi
KTH
Taeryong
Sound
Uriel
team PSH:
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IceMt
星辰裂
Aces.H
EaglE
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Date: Tue, Jan 1 2008 16:02:11
Wasnt Nory with PDS, or am I mistaken w/ some1 else?
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Date: Tue, Jan 1 2008 16:06:14QUOTE (NoRice4U @ Jan 1 2008, 11:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Wasnt Nory with PDS, or am I mistaken w/ some1 else?
yea, but a lot of korean spinners are in both KPSA and PDS. -
Date: Tue, Jan 1 2008 16:12:41
ah ok, why wouldn't they just form one big korean group?
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Date: Tue, Jan 1 2008 16:12:49
is it official that PDS forfeited the world cup?
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Date: Tue, Jan 1 2008 16:19:33QUOTE (WhiteFang @ Jan 1 2008, 11:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>is it official that PDS forfeited the world cup?
they didnt forfeit, we simply replaced them with KPSA.
and korean "pen spinning" politics are difficult to explain, so I won't bother. -
Date: Mon, Jan 7 2008 03:41:25
who is the manager of the KPSA team?
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Date: Mon, Jan 7 2008 04:00:17QUOTE (Zombo @ Nov 19 2007, 06:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>4 different videos of course,
once all the matchups are made, its everybody on their own.
Will we eventually be able to see the videos or is it gunna stay private? -
Date: Mon, Jan 7 2008 04:37:11QUOTE (sadi teh pirate @ Jan 6 2008, 11:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Will we eventually be able to see the videos or is it gunna stay private?
lol of course we'll see them, that's the whole point!
@joshy, don't know. -
Date: Sat, Jan 19 2008 14:18:05
Hi Guys,
Sorry about the late delay with the site being put up at the last minute, i've been tied up with lots of uni work at the same time, but here is the link for the world cup website:
http://www.worldcup08.co.nr
Hope you guys like it, if there is any problems or anything, let me know il try and sort it out.
The groups will be decided tonight live on the UPSB radio.
Take care, and hoe you enjoy the event
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Date: Sat, Jan 19 2008 14:22:18
Wow great and awesome site CrAsH, looks like the last one =D
Nice stuff. -
Date: Sat, Jan 19 2008 14:33:45
All the best to every team participating!
Wishing everyone the best of luck! -
Date: Sat, Jan 19 2008 14:38:19
I love that website , Mr.CrAsH.
Good luck to everyone who takes part in the tournament. -
Date: Sat, Jan 19 2008 14:40:11
Great site, very nice.
Going to be very interesting... -
Date: Sat, Jan 19 2008 14:57:18
Good luck to team UPSB
Nice site Crash and I feel it will be an interesting tournament -
Date: Sat, Jan 19 2008 16:42:16
Wow!!
that site made tons on my head.
Can't wait for the podcast!! -
Date: Sat, Jan 19 2008 20:33:32
draw is complete,
first round thread: http://www.upsb.info/forum/index.php?showtopic=3394