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Serious Discussion / Euthanasia
Good or bad?
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Date: Wed, Jun 25 2008 14:43:20
as some people know there are two types of Euthanasia, they are involuntary Euthanasia and voluntary Euthanasia. The difference is that in involuntary Euthanasia the person is killed without there permission, the argument for this one is that some people are unable to judge wheather they keep their lives or not. Voluntary Euthanasia is when a person asks to be killed. Euthanasia by definition is "merciful killing" which is where a person's life is taken because it is said that they are suffering so badly that the only way to end it would be for them to be killed. There are many different opinions on this, here is mine. Euthanasia should only be practiced if the person is brain dead, or that their brain hardly procceses any thought any more and that they wouldn't be able to really do anything. However one cannot be hasty with Euthanising people. There are always meraculous recoveries and brilliant new cures. Anyways, disscus everyone, tell me your opinions.
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Date: Wed, Jun 25 2008 14:45:10
well if they really want to die isint freedom of choice?
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Date: Wed, Jun 25 2008 14:51:38
He's also referring to involuntary Euthanasia, like when somebody is in a coma. Personally I think it should only be done if somebody asks for it - it's their choice, but I don't approve of it being done involuntarily since usually there's still a chance for recovery or for new cures to be developed.
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Date: Wed, Jun 25 2008 15:13:10
I feel that if the person makes a sane, carefully thought out desicion to be euthanised, the solution would be more straight forward. However, some views on this from religious/political viewpoints feel that murder is always wrong. I shall not elaborate on this point.
Involunary euthanasia on the other hand is very morally dependent on the situation. The right/wrong factor is based on the benefit/loss of the situation.
In my opinion, the merciful murder of a person beyond recovery is legit. -
Date: Thu, Jun 26 2008 04:21:36
if you don't kill them the clean, official way when they want to die, they'll go kill themselves some other weird painful way that might not even work. Denying someone the right to die is just plain rediculous really
involuntary.... idk -
Date: Thu, Jun 26 2008 07:04:50
I think the TS is referring to involuntary euthanasia here, as it is more of a grey area than voluntary euthanasia. IMO involuntary euthanasia should be taken on a case-by-case basis, and after much careful consideration, and confirmation that death is actually a better way than suffering in pain to end one's life.
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Date: Thu, Jun 18 2009 21:19:04
Euthanasia. Allowing for someone who is incapable of speech to end their life, or allowing yourself to end your life.
Is it ethical? Should it be practiced?
Basically, if someone who is the closest relation to you has wound up in hospital and had no signs of recovery, and
they could not talk, you would be allowed to remove their feeding tube, resulting in that one's death.
Or, if YOU were in hospital, on medication that kept you going, you would be allowed to NOT take the medication,
resulting in your own death.
Discuss. -
Date: Thu, Jun 18 2009 21:50:58
hmm... idk, if you made the decision for yourself, sure. But I don't really think about these things
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Date: Fri, Jun 19 2009 00:08:46
isn't there a more humane way than starvation?
I think its good, if they show no signs of interaction or recovery than they are just a burden. I guess it sounds kind of cold but if they can't speak or move or anything and they are going to be like that forever how is that much different from being dead? -
Date: Fri, Jun 19 2009 03:57:14
well.. then there is always this thing called a miracle
not that it always happens but it might happen
but in most cases, i think it's better to end one's life if it's more of a burden to one's life and to others' -
Date: Fri, Jun 19 2009 04:01:07
I think its wrong, unless the person can give consent (writing, signs)
If not, I think they should respect the value of peoples lives. Priceless. -
Date: Fri, Jun 19 2009 04:11:30
Another important thing to note is the recent devolpment of many new medical technologies. We never know when another such technology could develop. Therefore, the longer we can keep someone alive, the better off they are, becuase there's always the chane of a new medical technology developing that can improve their quality of life.
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Date: Fri, Jun 19 2009 05:45:08QUOTE (yahu @ Jun 19 2009, 02:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Another important thing to note is the recent devolpment of many new medical technologies. We never know when another such technology could develop. Therefore, the longer we can keep someone alive, the better off they are, becuase there's always the chane of a new medical technology developing that can improve their quality of life.
Great argument, but the sad truth is most people see it as a burden to carry on living a "meaningless" life...
If only advances could be made faster, eh ? -
Date: Fri, Jun 19 2009 06:18:11
So the question is what makes life meaningful. I would argue that simply being alive is meaningful in one way or another, which is why it is always worth fighting for.
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Date: Fri, Jun 19 2009 08:05:17
Some may argue that if simply being alive is meaningful, what about those like Bill Gates, who are also alive, but live a much more better off life than the people in hospital who cannot communicate and are living via a feeding tube/medication?
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Date: Fri, Jun 19 2009 08:16:05QUOTE (Star @ Jun 19 2009, 01:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Some may argue that if simply being alive is meaningful, what about those like Bill Gates, who are also alive, but live a much more better off life than the people in hospital who cannot communicate and are living via a feeding tube/medication?
True but that's just how life is. Like when a child dies at birth or is born with mental illnesses. It isn't fair for the child considering that we were all born normal or better. Or when someone gets killed by random events even though they did nothing nothing wrong. When it comes down to it life just isn't fair no matter if your benefiting from it or not. I hope you guys can understand my point. -
Date: Sun, Jun 21 2009 14:00:35
I actually don't know. Think about it. There was case in Japan when a woman's father was incapable of walking, and Woman's husband was always at work, and woman always had to take care of her father until the father started thinking it was better if he was not alive. So the father told his daughter to kill him, but daughter refused...at first...until when father tried to commit suicide that failed, and daughter came in and finished him.
I wonder what the father was thinking because I honestly don't think he was happy having his daughter kill him. I rather think there was this one last feeling inside him that told him he wanted to live because all the memory he had about his life just flashes his mind.
I mean everyone think about a lot of things in a split second before death. In that split second, the person could actually think over if one really wants to die or not. That's what happened to me when I just wanted to end my life by just throwing myself in the train track when the train was coming, but this sudden bunch of feelings and memory just stopped me one step before. Euthanasia? Well we really never know. Because what I've just said is nothing more than an abstraction. -
Date: Mon, Jun 22 2009 00:25:07
Merged your topic with this one.
I posted some definitions there, but I suppose it is probably better to keep the discussion here.