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Off-topic / Defragging.

Sorry, I'm a computer noob.

  1. Glamouraz
    Date: Sat, Oct 24 2009 05:00:37

    I've got some questions.

    What is defragging your computer?

    What does it do?

    Is it a long process?

    Does it delete anything?

    Can it be done casually? As in, without fear of any of your files being lost or damage to your computer etc..

    If stuff gets deleted from defragging, can they be recovered?

    I heard it rearranges stuff. Does that mean that I have to look into new folders to access previous stuff?

    What does it do to your computer?

    Thanks!

  2. darkrose
    Date: Sat, Oct 24 2009 05:03:15

    What does it do?
    restore stuff
    Is it a long process?
    yes
    Does it delete anything?
    yes
    Can it be done casually? As in, without fear of any of your files being lost or damage to your computer etc..
    no
    and noooooooooooooooooooo
    If stuff gets deleted from defragging, can they be recovered?
    usually yes if done by a professional from a big company
    by u 99% no
    I heard it rearranges stuff. Does that mean that I have to look into new folders to access previous stuff?
    no it means ur stuff may be unopenable
    What does it do to your computer?
    restore it
    Thanks!


  3. hoiboy
    Date: Sat, Oct 24 2009 05:03:21

    Defragging your computer is basically rearranging all the files so that its easier for windows to access them.

    ^see above

    Can be a long process, depends on how much you have on your comp

    no

    Yes it can, but its a waste of time

    sleep(1).gif

    No, its mostly rearranging how Windows categorizes stuff, like lumping all the updates with each other, docs with each other. folders will not change

    it makes it faster

    QUOTE (darkrose @ Oct 23 2009, 10:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    What does it do?
    restore stuff
    Is it a long process?
    yes
    Does it delete anything?
    yes
    Can it be done casually? As in, without fear of any of your files being lost or damage to your computer etc..
    no
    and noooooooooooooooooooo
    If stuff gets deleted from defragging, can they be recovered?
    usually yes if done by a professional from a big company
    by u 99% no
    I heard it rearranges stuff. Does that mean that I have to look into new folders to access previous stuff?
    no it means ur stuff may be unopenable
    What does it do to your computer?
    restore it
    Thanks!


    do you even know what you are talking about? sleep(1).gif

  4. Glamouraz
    Date: Sat, Oct 24 2009 05:13:46

    Ok so what does it delete?

    And why can't I just do it casually if I have the time to spare? Is there something i need to know about it before I do it?

    And thanks hoiboy.

    I'm thinking of using the disc defragmenter that already comes with vista.

  5. Ilvdrftng
    Date: Sat, Oct 24 2009 05:19:30

    QUOTE (Glamouraz @ Oct 23 2009, 10:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I've got some questions.

    What is defragging your computer?

    What does it do?

    Is it a long process?

    Does it delete anything?

    Can it be done casually? As in, without fear of any of your files being lost or damage to your computer etc..

    If stuff gets deleted from defragging, can they be recovered?

    I heard it rearranges stuff. Does that mean that I have to look into new folders to access previous stuff?

    What does it do to your computer?

    Thanks!

    Ummmm lets just say i have a bunch of cans, its like recycling almost. But i want to get the Pepsi cans in one pile, and the Coke cans in one pile. Soooo i search through the pile of cans, and grab the cans and put them in one pile.

    Thats basically defragging, gathering files together so that your comptuer can access them alot faster, as opposed to searching all over for the files

    It doesnt delete anything, and it wont delete anything

    Does it take long? depending on how much you have installed, how fast youre computer is..etcetc

    Rearranging files, it doesnt move them to like the F drive or anything, it just places things so that its easier accessed. nothing bad comes out of defragging of what i know of.


    And if you want a GOOD defragging program, get DiskKeeper. That is teh BEST defragging program out there cause it gets it done faster and better than the one windows comes with.

    QUOTE (darkrose @ Oct 23 2009, 10:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    What does it do?
    restore stuff
    Is it a long process?
    yes
    Does it delete anything?
    yes
    Can it be done casually? As in, without fear of any of your files being lost or damage to your computer etc..
    no
    and noooooooooooooooooooo
    If stuff gets deleted from defragging, can they be recovered?
    usually yes if done by a professional from a big company
    by u 99% no
    I heard it rearranges stuff. Does that mean that I have to look into new folders to access previous stuff?
    no it means ur stuff may be unopenable
    What does it do to your computer?
    restore it
    Thanks!

    seriously, i totally agreew ith hoiboy. Do you have the SLIGHTEST IDEA of what youre talking about?!

  6. Glamouraz
    Date: Sat, Oct 24 2009 05:21:48

    Awesome. So I don't have to worry about anything?

    And thanks Colin. I was hoping you would be the one to answer the questions lol.

  7. Ilvdrftng
    Date: Sat, Oct 24 2009 05:24:03

    QUOTE (Glamouraz @ Oct 23 2009, 10:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Awesome. So I don't have to worry about anything?

    And thanks Colin. I was hoping you would be the one to answer the questions lol.

    loll npnp.
    Nope, its perfectly safe :]

    I highly suggest you get DiskKeeper, even though its not free, its only 20ish USD dolalrs
    Ive been using it for a 2 years now, and even though its the 2006 edition, its great smile.gif

  8. Glamouraz
    Date: Sat, Oct 24 2009 05:40:58

    Thanks for the suggestion but I don't know..

    I don't see myself doing this often.

  9. dRz
    Date: Sat, Oct 24 2009 05:42:34

    Why dont you google these questions? I've found so many answers by 1 google search.

  10. Glamouraz
    Date: Sat, Oct 24 2009 06:19:43

    No idea.

    Anyway..


    Is there anything to take note before i start? I read that antivirus programmes etc and restart the defrag.

  11. Dark Angel-REX
    Date: Sat, Oct 24 2009 10:42:05

    well you might want to close all other applications so that Defrag will be faster.

  12. Glamouraz
    Date: Sat, Oct 24 2009 14:12:51

    I just defragged. Works awesome.

    How often do you guys do it?

    I don't know how long it took though. I let it defrag, went out and it was done when I came back.

  13. XternalメDGN
    Date: Sat, Oct 24 2009 15:34:37

    i defrag whenever i run out of space. LOL.

  14. Zombo
    Date: Sat, Oct 24 2009 16:29:46

    defragging doesn't free up space or anything.

    you have to understand that your hard disk is a physical disk, and data can be scattered across the disk. in fact one file could be split and stored in various part of the disk.

    when you read data, your hard disk "physical pointer" must go to the right area in your disk to read. therefore, if your file is in one place only, its faster to read cuz it only has to go to one place. this process takes a lot of time compared to reading data from memory, so we want to minimize it.

    Furthermore, defrag will also put all your data at the front of the disk, so that your pointer will never rhave to move far away to read anything.
    this happens because when you delete files, you create holes in your data. defrag will plug those holes by rearranging data.

    here's an example you can relate to: suppose you got some porn photos, 3 of them. because you dont want to be found out by your parents, you hide 1 in the closet, one under the bed, 1 in your drawer. but what's the fastest and easiest way for you to jack off? looking at each picture individually where they're being stored or having all 3 sitting on your desk? the process of putting them all on your desk so that you can jack off more easily later on is defragmentation.

  15. Glamouraz
    Date: Sat, Oct 24 2009 18:19:07

    So that means if I shake the computer while it is defragging, the thing will spoil?

  16. hoiboy
    Date: Sat, Oct 24 2009 22:50:53

    No.

    On your desktop and everything, all your folders will be there. When you browse through a folder, things won't get rearranged.

    What's going on is every time you click on a folder, it has to go through your hard drive and grab stuff from all different places to display them. What defragging is basically doing is lumping them all in the same place so that the folder just grabs the right chunk and shows it to you.

    Defragging will effect how your computer is searching stuff, the only thing different will be performance speed.