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Off-topic / Netbook vs. Itouch
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Date: Sat, Oct 31 2009 03:02:39
What do you think?
Are netbooks really that slow and incompatible, (specifically the dell mini10, 3 hour battery, 80 gb hardrive and 1 gb ram)
Are they really so much of a pain and just used for novelty?
Compared to an Itouch (3g, 32gb), which maybe is more reliable, or usable, more portable... and such.
What do you think, Itouch vs Netbook.
Pros and Cons? Two sepearte things?...
Which would you rather have. -
Date: Sat, Oct 31 2009 03:18:40
I'd rather have the itouch.
If you want a netbook you might as well get a laptop. -
Date: Sat, Oct 31 2009 04:56:39QUOTE (EssenceOfLife @ Oct 30 2009, 11:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>What do you think?
Are netbooks really that slow and incompatible, (specifically the dell mini10, 3 hour battery, 80 gb hardrive and 1 gb ram)
Are they really so much of a pain and just used for novelty?
Compared to an Itouch (3g, 32gb), which maybe is more reliable, or usable, more portable... and such.
What do you think, Itouch vs Netbook.
Pros and Cons? Two sepearte things?...
Which would you rather have.
i would go for netbook. its really wrong to say they are slow and incompatible. honestly i have one of the older asus EEE pc models that i take around during the holidays. since my main computer is a mac, i use the EEE PC for games sometimes. I am not a hardcore gamer so dont expect to play stuff like crysis warhead on a netbook. it is very true that the battery life is mostly very bad , but i can tell u that i am able to play maplestory and warcraft 3 on it. if ur specifally talking about dell, imo dell is fucking overpriced most of the time, but i can be sure to tell u they have excellent customer support. i still have an 8 year old Dell PC lying around in my house and it still works fine. if ur going for the itouch, which i suggest not, you are actually paying for the touchscreen and the wifi plus app store stuff. my mom has an iphone which is a pain in an ass to use for internet, not that its slow but the font is a problem when you have to do massive scrolling and its definitely not suitable for a mobile internet device, rather if ur looking for a music player, i definitely recommend getting the ipod classic because its power packed with lots of memory to store alot of movies. so it narrows down , the ipod touch is just for the apps. you decide, but imo the netbook is a better deal -
Date: Sat, Oct 31 2009 05:08:12
Netbook:
Easier to type on.
Faster and easier to use the internet on.
Ipod Touch:
Smaller.
The app store. -
Date: Sat, Oct 31 2009 07:05:29QUOTE (TheOnion @ Oct 30 2009, 10:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Netbook:
Easier to type on.
Faster and easier to use the internet on.
Ipod Touch:
Smaller.
The app store. <--who need an app store when you have Windows...
Netbooks are slow and unreliable because people treat them as laptops/desktops. -
Date: Sat, Oct 31 2009 14:46:14
i would just buy a laptop and a cheaper mp3 player
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Date: Sat, Oct 31 2009 14:56:10
So a netbook wouldn't preform well at all if treated like a desktop or laptop?
I guess I really want to know if it isn't just a piece of crap that cant run anything.
My desktop right now is REALLY bad, I can't run one program without it lagging, and it takes a couple minutes to load a program up.
Are netbooks really unusable?
I mean, I'm not asking for top of the line performance here. I just want something decent that can do what I want it to do. -
Date: Sat, Oct 31 2009 15:29:14QUOTE (EssenceOfLife @ Oct 30 2009, 10:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>What do you think?
Are netbooks really that slow and incompatible, (specifically the dell mini10, 3 hour battery, 80 gb hardrive and 1 gb ram)
Are they really so much of a pain and just used for novelty?
Compared to an Itouch (3g, 32gb), which maybe is more reliable, or usable, more portable... and such.
What do you think, Itouch vs Netbook.
Pros and Cons? Two sepearte things?...
Which would you rather have.
get itouch cause they are MUCH more portable -
Date: Sat, Oct 31 2009 15:53:22
If you're going to use it to replace your desktop or as your main computer, don't.
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Date: Sat, Oct 31 2009 16:56:54
why dont u open a poll?
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Date: Sat, Oct 31 2009 18:21:40
Why shouldn't a netbook be used as a laptop/desktop computer?
Music (Itunes)
Word processing
Iming
Webcamming
Youtube
Email
Homework
Photoshop (CS3)
Games -
Date: Sat, Oct 31 2009 19:57:16QUOTE (EssenceOfLife @ Oct 31 2009, 11:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Why shouldn't a netbook be used as a laptop/desktop computer?
Music (Itunes)
Word processing
Iming
Webcamming
Youtube
Email
Homework
Photoshop (CS3)
Games
games? photoshop?
i dont think so... -
Date: Sat, Oct 31 2009 20:29:08
@UEDan
I actually often find some useful apps in the appstore, which does not have direct equivalents on the pc. And then the indie-gaming development is certainly much more active on the iPhone, than it is on the PC.
And the fact that the ipod touch is small, would I not take as something insignificant. I would for example not take a netbook out on the bus to read a book or play a game. And the fact that it can always be in the pocket and is fast to start up often come in handy, for example, when needing to something to read on toilet or while eating.QUOTE (EssenceOfLife @ Oct 31 2009, 03:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>So a netbook wouldn't preform well at all if treated like a desktop or laptop?
I guess I really want to know if it isn't just a piece of crap that cant run anything.
My desktop right now is REALLY bad, I can't run one program without it lagging, and it takes a couple minutes to load a program up.
Are netbooks really unusable?
I mean, I'm not asking for top of the line performance here. I just want something decent that can do what I want it to do.
You can do most stuff, except gaming, on a netbook, that you would do on a regular pc. But with only 1gb of ram, you can't do a whole lot of different things at once. And everything will run slower and it will take longer to boot up. And anything requiring a lot of processor power, like unpacking and installing larger programs, will happen painfully slowly and freeze everything else you are doing. Some netbooks even have problems with videos.
And if you write a lot on it, you will definitely grow tired of the small keyboard.
Although that comes with a big but, that is, that the netbook market is rapidly changing, and they are getting closer and closer to being able to do the same stuff a regular PC can do. So if you get some of the newest ones, you might not find the same problems, that you have found on them until now. I think that when they start putting 7 on them, they will get faster, because that will make them able to have more than 1gb ram. -
Date: Sat, Oct 31 2009 20:55:20QUOTE (EssenceOfLife @ Oct 31 2009, 02:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Why shouldn't a netbook be used as a laptop/desktop computer?
Music (Itunes) -> barely
Word processing -> yes
Iming -> yes, depends how bloated your IM is.
Webcamming -> probably too slow
Youtube -> maybe
Email -> yes
Homework -> depends
Photoshop (CS3) -> no
Games -> no -
Date: Sat, Oct 31 2009 22:35:37
Why is it that Netbooks cannot handle it, is it the ram? 1.33 ghz proccessing power?...
How old of a desktop/laptop computer do you think a modern day netbook compares to, like 5 years ago? or 10?... -
Date: Sun, Nov 1 2009 00:45:11
Its not that a netbook compares to PCs 5 or 10 years ago, heck I highly doubt you remember PC's back then given your age.
The thing is, both are great devices but both are intended for two different people.
iTouch:
+Extremely Portable
+Mini Games to distract oneself
+Music Player
+Decent web browsing.
+Camera and junk
-No physical keyboard
-No media slots
-Smaller screen
Netbook:
+Actual webbrowsing
+Keyboard
+Windows/Linux/OSx86?
+Expansion slots
+A god damn right click
-Size
-Battery life
The iTouch is meant for multimedia, light web browsing and a little gaming.
Netbooks are more of an all around machine directed more towards the needs of a student/business user.
It really just depends on what you'd need.
For ME I'd go with a netbook. I do a fair amount of freelance computer repair and these things can can handle linux pretty well. I can troubleshoot on a netbook, cant with an iTouch. And I have a desktop and laptop that I use for heavy computing. Most likely I'll a movie or two to kill time but nothing intense, I'd download with my other PCs and transfer the movie over or have them on a flash drive.
Plus I go to school, lugging a 14" laptop becomes a pain in the ass after a while. I currently type last minute essays on my Windows Mobile phone because its smaller than a laptop. then I transfer it to my school's PCs to print via Microsd card. Just keep a MicroSD adapter in my wallet or I can get a USB adapter to put on my keychain. Cant do that on an iTouch. A netbook would most likely replace a lot of the functions on my phone and thats why I would get a netbook, but your needs are most likely different from mine.
EDIT: and your desktop is probably in need of a tuneup. My 3-4 year old desktop still runs strong it can even run a server in the background no problem. -
Date: Sun, Nov 1 2009 13:15:01QUOTE (UEDan @ Oct 31 2009, 08:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Its not that a netbook compares to PCs 5 or 10 years ago, heck I highly doubt you remember PC's back then given your age.
The thing is, both are great devices but both are intended for two different people.
iTouch:
+Extremely Portable
+Mini Games to distract oneself
+Music Player
+Decent web browsing.
+Camera and junk
-No physical keyboard
-No media slots
-Smaller screen
Netbook:
+Actual webbrowsing
+Keyboard
+Windows/Linux/OSx86?
+Expansion slots
+A god damn right click
-Size
-Battery life
The iTouch is meant for multimedia, light web browsing and a little gaming.
Netbooks are more of an all around machine directed more towards the needs of a student/business user.
It really just depends on what you'd need.
For ME I'd go with a netbook. I do a fair amount of freelance computer repair and these things can can handle linux pretty well. I can troubleshoot on a netbook, cant with an iTouch. And I have a desktop and laptop that I use for heavy computing. Most likely I'll a movie or two to kill time but nothing intense, I'd download with my other PCs and transfer the movie over or have them on a flash drive.
Plus I go to school, lugging a 14" laptop becomes a pain in the ass after a while. I currently type last minute essays on my Windows Mobile phone because its smaller than a laptop. then I transfer it to my school's PCs to print via Microsd card. Just keep a MicroSD adapter in my wallet or I can get a USB adapter to put on my keychain. Cant do that on an iTouch. A netbook would most likely replace a lot of the functions on my phone and thats why I would get a netbook, but your needs are most likely different from mine.
EDIT: and your desktop is probably in need of a tuneup. My 3-4 year old desktop still runs strong it can even run a server in the background no problem.
^^
def agree. a netbook is alright as long as you dont do some hardcore computing shit . its fine for regular use. my mom has one and uses it for word processing, stock trading, i used it before to try some games like counter strike and its definitely alright as long as you dont ask for too much given the quality of the graphics. assuming you get a itouch, thats bloody limited to expansion space
well if you were to get a netbook and max out the ram, i am sure it can perform more than this basic simple tasks. linux is easy to use, and if ur getting a windows one, thats even better .
its your decision in the end of the day. i would rather go with netbook. sometimes a netbook is even better than a laptop when it comes to real portability, its gonna beat the shit out of macbookair.
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Date: Sun, Nov 1 2009 13:54:00QUOTE (EssenceOfLife @ Oct 30 2009, 11:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>What do you think?
Are netbooks really that slow and incompatible, (specifically the dell mini10, 3 hour battery, 80 gb hardrive and 1 gb ram)
Are they really so much of a pain and just used for novelty?
Compared to an Itouch (3g, 32gb), which maybe is more reliable, or usable, more portable... and such.
What do you think, Itouch vs Netbook.
Pros and Cons? Two sepearte things?...
Which would you rather have.
i have an ipod touch and it's not really that great but if you want you can buy the net book sell it for money to buy an itouch and have extra money for pens or whatever else you want -
Date: Sun, Nov 1 2009 14:34:41QUOTE (spinneraddictionsfriend @ Nov 1 2009, 05:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i have an ipod touch and it's not really that great but if you want you can buy the net book sell it for money to buy an itouch and have extra money for pens or whatever else you want
Wait what? Buy the other thing you wanted, sell it, get less money back, buy what you originally wanted, then spend the difference? HAHAH you have made my morning, FUCK I hate insomnia. -
Date: Sun, Nov 1 2009 19:49:30QUOTE (UEDan @ Oct 31 2009, 04:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Plus I go to school, lugging a 14" laptop becomes a pain in the ass after a while. I currently type last minute essays on my Windows Mobile phone because its smaller than a laptop.
LOL
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Date: Sun, Nov 1 2009 22:37:05
Okay.. but netbooks operate like standard laptops right?.. just a little slower and smaller?... Is there any really BIG difference?
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Date: Mon, Nov 2 2009 00:23:43
Yes pretty much. Except no CD/DVD burner. And like I said before, its about what you're looking for in a gadget. You've told us nothing.
But if you're a light user and don't have 2 Firefox windows open with 10 tabs each while watching an mpg/avi music video in the background while encoding a DVD you should be fine.
Netbooks aren't meant to be desktop/laptop replacements, yet.
Some places have a 30 day return/exchange policy I suggest you abuse the privilege. -
Date: Mon, Nov 2 2009 00:30:10
Hmmm, alright. Let's see, right now I am using internet explorer with 12 tabs open and microsoft word. Although I mgiht hmm on average this is what I probably would have open, you tell me if an average netbook would be enough?...
2 Instant messenging programs, AIM, MSN
Google Chrome, with at least 10 tabs and a wordproccesor or PhotoshopCS3 or, a low end game, such as Halo CE on low graphics
This is bassicly what I use my desktop to do, but I am not really going to be running any super intensive programs, I don't think.... Would a netbook be able to multitask 4 differen't programs? like those listed above?... -
Date: Mon, Nov 2 2009 01:01:31
Currently:
Multitask? FUCK NO.
Run individually:
IM programs; sure.
Chrome; sure
CS3; problem is the CPU and ram isnt quiet there, if you limit yourself to simple to moderate photoshopping you might make it.
Halo; people have been able to get it to work and have it playable, just lags every once in a while but playable. This is with the older intel graphics chipset, the newer ones with the nvidia should run it well.
One thing I will mention is out of the box everything will run fine, but if you're going to be using it as a replacement the programs you have running under processes in the background will eat away at your CPU power.