UPSB v3
General Discussion / European New Gen Cup
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Date: Sat, Dec 5 2009 19:19:40
There is no topic here so I'm posting the announcement:
It is an unofficial tournament for europeans. It will be a short tournament held at the start of 2010.
Here are the distribution of spots:
GPC 6
FPSB 6
PPP 5
BPSC 4
SPSC 3
SPC 3
RPSC 3
Others 2
In others it could be UPSB europeans or other small boards like SweSpin and PSUK. I think they decided SweSpin 1 and PSUK 1 so bad luck for any euros on UPSB.
The requirements to enter is:
- 1-2.5 yr of spinning experience
- No previous WC/WT experience
It's a fast tournament with only 3 rounds:
Deadline 1st round = jan 6
results 1st round > jan 11
filming 2nd round > jan 26
judging 2nd round > jan 31
final round in february.
first round (32)= 16 1vs1 matches
round 2: 8 1vs1 matches
round 3: global ranking of 8 combos, the combos will put arranged into a collab.
judging:
each country has a head judge which collects ad gives the opinion of his board. judging has no criteria only justification.
judging must take into account smoothness, technique, originality, structure and coherence. -
Date: Fri, Dec 11 2009 11:23:38
Yeah that makes it fair, doesn't it? To give those 2 places away to other boards without competition
Actually, I spoke to some people on PPP, and as I understand even Raeik isn't yet sure who will participate from other boards.QUOTE (Raeik)Well we will see tomorrow how many free slots we will have, then they should then send us videos of them and we'll see.
That message was made yesterday, so tomorrow in message = today.
I by myself would like to participate very much -
Date: Fri, Dec 11 2009 12:57:01
No-one from PSUK is participating.
Are they posting up videos just on youtube or somewhere? Or on their own board? Will anyone post the results + videos here? Just a few questions. -
Date: Fri, Dec 11 2009 16:11:19
I guess I can follow the tournament even if I won't be in, so I can do it.
But I am still hoping I can be in, especially when no one from PSUK is participating -
Date: Sat, Dec 12 2009 12:45:33QUOTE (Raem @ Dec 11 2009, 04:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I guess I can follow the tournament even if I won't be in, so I can do it.
Sweet!QUOTEBut I am still hoping I can be in, especially when no one from PSUK is participating
Let's hope so. UPSB representative! -
Date: Wed, Dec 16 2009 10:20:59
Russian spinners look dead, just like PSUK and SweSpin so I gave one more spot for SPSC so I have about 4 free spots, so if anyone want to be /in and has no "official board", then he shall send me a (or several) url with videos, that way if we have more than 4 spinners we will chose (I'll try to ask spinners from other communities, that way it will be faire).
Thank you.
Here are the rules for that tournament
Deadline 1st round = Monday 11 january 2010 before midnight (11 > 12 night)
You have to send your combo to me, Babel, Blasfem or Futhark before the deadline.
Videos:
No sound or editing in the video, only your nckname BEFORE the beggining of the combo
The combo shall last 25seconds MAXIMUM
You can only use combos that have never been released or released on a collab (not a tournament) in 2010 (for the first round
If you break one rules you will have a -1 (which is important because there are 5-6 judges)
Jugment
Each judge (1/community) shall send me one judgement for each battle where there is no spinner from his community. And you have to write a sentence to explain your vote. If you don't it won't count.
Each board will count as one voice then.
The spinner who has more voices than the other wins.
Huy (SPC) vs Futhark (FPSB)
Might (GPC) vs Macioster12 (PPP)
KevKev (GPC) vs apa (SPC)
YYY vs Guevara (GPC)
Mogac (SPSC) vs Crazypen (BPSC)
Khor (BPSC) vs Blasfem (FPSB)
Lord of Jamaica (SPC) vs JTS (SPSC)
XXX vs AzuL (SPSC)
Philistin (FPSB) vs Ivabra (BPSC)
Babel (FPSB) vs Lawliet (PPP)
Knackworst (BPSC) vs Frazio (PPP)
Farhneit (PPP) vs colddi (GPC)
Raeik (FPSB) vs Bilbo (GPC)
Lekunga (GPC) vs Almad28 (FPSB)
SebuiX (SPSC) vs Raem (UPSB)
Gildor (PPP) vs Krz (PPP)
Deadline for judgment 17 january
Good muck and have fun. -
Date: Thu, Dec 17 2009 19:05:45
they need 2 more ppl. cmon guys
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Date: Tue, Dec 22 2009 21:59:07
Well, i want to be in. Do you still searching for two more people?
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Date: Tue, Dec 29 2009 13:57:36
Alias is YYY and SpinFo is XXX
Alias (SPSC) vs Guevara (GPC)
SpinFo (UPSB) vs AzuL (SPSC) -
Date: Tue, Jan 12 2010 14:10:25
Huy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBVtf0KjWYw&fmt=18 vs Futhark http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9umYe0XX7M
Might http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uc4E-FgsnIY vs Macioster12 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sGzar8HNxg
Product http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mqfM-5DDgI&fmt=18 vs APA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqchBMP3tJ4
Alias (snowboard accident)vs Guevara http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JepFPk7CVzw
Mogac http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BV28TtWRQi8 vs Crazy Pen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIx11MziO3U
Trushu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxmbkxiSwDI vs Blasfem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3INIGG7gco
LoJ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPEsMwGG4II vs JTS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTCa91LGe5Q
SpinFo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOOyGASjKlU vs AzuL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDXM3xnifYM
Philistin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFyHMW58bPo vs Ivabra http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu06BX0YhBE
Near http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccFqJhLj0gU vs Lawliet http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJOCfgvGRGY
Knackworst http://www.megaupload.com/?d=D5LKRH36 vs Frazio http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kakh8q9IyXE
Fahrnheit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA8FUa9S98g vs Impulse http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOPiZvQJjsQ
Raeik http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHerPilFi64 vs Bilbo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8Vu5UAGFMU
Lekunga http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFrzzHBcnx4 vs Almad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0AeQUsMprg
SebuiX (quad accident) vs Raem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bs_IsJJ1o-o
Gildor http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V2yT8qN3v8 vs Krz http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OO-e7KtVHU
I DO NEED A JUDGE FROM UPSB.
HE WILL HAVE TO SAY FOR EACH BATTLE WITHOUT UPSB MEMBER (SpinFo and Raem) WHICH SPINNER WINS AND WRITE A FEW WORDS FOR EACH BATTLE TO EXPLAIN IS CHOICE.
(Alias and SebuiX are "just" injured hu) -
Date: Tue, Jan 12 2010 14:53:20
Are Alias and SebuiX dead?
If they are - wow, thats really sad.
If not - please remove the cross...
/EDIT: Philistins video does not work
/EDIT2: Gildor is Lawliet and Lawliet is Gildor... -
Date: Tue, Jan 12 2010 15:10:01
I have a YT Link now:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFrzzHBcnx4
Three without a clip and three who advance to the next round without battle.
Nice -
Date: Tue, Jan 12 2010 16:27:37
I corrected the errors, thank you for seeing it
Only two people didn't send and it's because of injuries so I guess this tournament is not a failure (yet^^). -
Date: Tue, Jan 12 2010 19:13:44
I thought It would be cool if judges could judge me with Guevara as if we were battling. Just to see how would we be rated (it wouldn't change anything, just to see)
Still, I hope these two spinners are alright .
What about the videos, I loved blasfem video. that dude is mad . looking forward for more of his videos in future rounds .
Great job everyone =] -
Date: Wed, Jan 13 2010 19:10:40
im not really sure who's the UPSb judge
if anybody want to judge just talk to Raeik i guess -
Date: Thu, Jan 14 2010 20:03:52
Frip is UPSB's judge.
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Date: Mon, Jan 18 2010 22:36:51
Results R1
http://thefpsb.penspinning.fr/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=6753 -
Date: Tue, Jan 19 2010 14:42:21
Congrats Spinfo and Raem!
UPSB need to do well - Missing out in the world cup we could do well here and save some face. -
Date: Tue, Jan 19 2010 16:59:41
I don't really understand something- I was quickly browsing through the battles, and reading some of the judges comments, and I saw that in product's battle vs APA almost all 5 judges (if I'm not mistaken) commented about product's angle being bad.
Maybe it's just me, but I don't think camera angle should be really considered as a judging factor :\ I'm not talking about being off screen a lot, which could interfere with judging/ suggest bad hand control (on specific cases), but I don't think points should be taken off because of a bad angle.
It might not have been the case, and the judges simply stated it, but to me it looked like it...
Just my 2 cents, anyway.
And congrats Raem and SpinFo ^^ good luck on the future rounds :] -
Date: Tue, Jan 19 2010 18:29:18QUOTE (Resonance @ Jan 19 2010, 05:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I don't really understand something- I was quickly browsing through the battles, and reading some of the judges comments, and I saw that in product's battle vs APA almost all 5 judges (if I'm not mistaken) commented about product's angle being bad.
Maybe it's just me, but I don't think camera angle should be really considered as a judging factor :\ I'm not talking about being off screen a lot, which could interfere with judging/ suggest bad hand control (on specific cases), but I don't think points should be taken off because of a bad angle.
It might not have been the case, and the judges simply stated it, but to me it looked like it...
Just my 2 cents, anyway.
And congrats Raem and SpinFo ^^ good luck on the future rounds :]
I think that by "bad angle" they mean it but there is also the off-screen problem in these words.
Second thing is that angle is important, penspinning isn't only performance, only tricks, the render also is important, and the render and the angle are linked together.
That's only my opinion -
Date: Fri, Jan 29 2010 12:25:51
Deadline is on monday so don't forget
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Date: Fri, Jan 29 2010 13:25:10QUOTE (Raeik @ Jan 19 2010, 08:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I think that by "bad angle" they mean it but there is also the off-screen problem in these words.
Second thing is that angle is important, penspinning isn't only performance, only tricks, the render also is important, and the render and the angle are linked together.
That's only my opinion
If the case is off screen then it's fine, I understand. I'm not criticizing the judges~
What I mean is, that an angle is something that sometimes the spinner can't control, because of technical difficulties (broken tripod, or stuff like that).
Anyway, good luck to all the winners, can't wait to see the next round vids :] -
Date: Tue, Feb 2 2010 09:00:51
Guevara http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d1ra0Ecm6U
vs
Ivabra http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49n0HtYMr8k
Frazio http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxFJWtxSiiw
vs
APA http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dk3m-46j78OA
Blasfem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACPkWZiZjFQ (je suppose que c'est la dernière que tu as up)
vs
Lekunga http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJB7wZ27Z38
SpinFo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ropjikavFIA
vs
Might http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E2-_cFjv3c
Impulse http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dYATxKz06s
vs
Raem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6ypiFuVJJU
Near http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXG04BBLgPw
vs
Raeik http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3ojyV4wONs
Huy http://vimeo.com/9139537
vs
JTS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLmVuQYwjwk
Mogac http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk2zyi82fpI
vs
Gildor http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIKYZSRggyc
Pour les juges / for the judges.
Essayez cette fois d'énoncer brièvement pour les combos les plus et les moins à chaque fois / try for each combo to write the pros and the cons
Je veux les résultats Dimanche / i want results on sunday. -
Date: Sat, Feb 13 2010 19:24:10
Looks like ENGC R2 results are out
Guevara vs Ivabra 1-5
Frazio vs APA 3-3
Blasfem vs Lekunga 4-1
SpinFo vs Might 3-2
Impulse vs Raem 2-3
Near vs Raeik 4-2
Huy vs JTS 2-3
Mogac vs Gildor 1-4
Spoiler:
SPC http://www.file-upload.ne...-real.xlsx.html <- can't open the file, lol
Spoiler:
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Date: Sat, Feb 13 2010 22:48:23
There is something terrible wrong here. Frasio is a PPP member, right? And PPP gave him a vote! It is suppose for one community not to be able to judge its own spinner. Am i correct?
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Date: Sun, Feb 14 2010 11:06:52
Sorry guys I was quite busy these days.
Those reults aren't correct AT ALL.
There is no tie.
(I think SPSC judgements were forgotten for this count)
I check everything and here they are
lol vous aviez oublié les votes de SPSC donc au final y'a pas d'égalité.
spinfo xxx
might xx
guevara x
ivabra xxxx
impulse xx
raem xxx
apa xxx
frazio xx
near xxxx
raeik xx
blasfem xxxx
lekunga x
mogac x
gildor xxx
JTS xxx
Huy xx
For next round you have to send your video uploaded on Skydrive/rapidshare/Megaupload to me or judges but not in public because a collab will be made.
Judges will have to rank videos from 1 > 8 and will judge the combo but have to keep in mind how the spinner did during all the tournament (if he was regular, if he improved etc...)
Deadline is 7th march)
judges will have to rank every combo of the 3rd round, even one from their community) -
Date: Sun, Feb 14 2010 15:24:00
nice, keep it up spinfo and raem!! its the last round, the final!
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Date: Tue, Feb 16 2010 18:06:40
You did pretty good guys
Maybe we can pick up 1st/2nd/3rd in the final! -
Date: Tue, Feb 16 2010 20:41:31QUOTE (Resonance @ Jan 19 2010, 08:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I don't really understand something- I was quickly browsing through the battles, and reading some of the judges comments, and I saw that in product's battle vs APA almost all 5 judges (if I'm not mistaken) commented about product's angle being bad.
Maybe it's just me, but I don't think camera angle should be really considered as a judging factor :\ I'm not talking about being off screen a lot, which could interfere with judging/ suggest bad hand control (on specific cases), but I don't think points should be taken off because of a bad angle.
It might not have been the case, and the judges simply stated it, but to me it looked like it...
Just my 2 cents, anyway.
And congrats Raem and SpinFo ^^ good luck on the future rounds :]
Angle is crucial in penspinning. Period. A good sppinner would know what is a good angle and how to get one.
Not really an excuse to use a bad angle for such a tournament. If you can't get a good angle at all, well...too bad. Try your best. -
Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 11:43:43
It took some time but finally the results are here ^^'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vosO4j_0yYY
thank you everyone o/