UPSB v3
Fundamental Tricks / Fingerpass Thread
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Date: Sun, Jul 1 2007 00:54:07
Use this thread to discuss the FingerPass. (note, FingerPass Reverse has never needed a thread in the past, so I'm not making one now... simply put its the exact reverse motion, using reverse passes. If you do need such a thread, feel free to make one.)
Brief Description: The FingerPass is actually a combo which can be broken down as Pass 12-23 > Pass 23-34 > Pass 34-23 > Pass 23-12. Each Pass is executed as a 180 degree rotation around whichever finger is being passed over. These passes are probably the simplest thing in PS, and are performed simply by holding the finger you are passing over still while bending both the other fingers so that the pen is pushed from (for example, as in pass 12-23) the index to the ring finger, staying in contact with the middle finger the whole time. The combo itself is very easy, but takes a lot of practice to master and get it very smooth and fast. If you do so however, it is likely the flashy-est of the fundamentals.
Links:
UCPSB V2 Thread
Video Tutorial by Eso
UPSB V3 Article -
Date: Sun, Sep 9 2007 10:26:53
i can't get the passes Pass 23-34 > Pass 34-23 as smooth as the other passes. Any 1 got any tips or suggestions?
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Date: Sun, Sep 9 2007 10:59:39QUOTE (yam @ Sep 9 2007, 05:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i can't get the passes Pass 23-34 > Pass 34-23 as smooth as the other passes. Any 1 got any tips or suggestions?
when doing the 34-23, unlike most passes, 2,3 and 4 should not be all touching the pen at the same time, but you rather "throw" the pen from 34 to 23 in a ring around reverse fashion, only much weaker, then practice the 23-34 *throw thing*- 23, after that practice the entire combo, eventually you'll get it -
Date: Sun, Sep 9 2007 12:58:01
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Date: Sun, Sep 9 2007 21:14:14
When I am going from 23 > 34, my pinky can never stretch high enough to grab the pen, and my 23 fingers can not push it down far enough.
Also when going from 23 > 12, my ring finger will get stuck on the pen and I won't be able to pull it up fast enough.
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Date: Sun, Sep 9 2007 21:21:07
Practice would be the best solution,
but there is this finger excercise by kam on pentrix where u bend each finger down by the second knukle without moving the rest of ur fingers -
Date: Sun, Sep 9 2007 21:58:32
Am I doing it ok? on the second day, oh and its 2 fingerpass not 1
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Date: Sun, Sep 9 2007 22:25:42
well, you vid quality is terrible,
but besides that, your doing ok.
my advice is to relax your fingers,
as you can your fingers are schrunched up a lot.
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Date: Sun, Sep 9 2007 22:28:43
My eyes aren't trained to really dissect these things, but don't force yourself to be fast for your second day. It looks to me like you're really jamming those passes into the other slots.
So take it nice and slow; work on sort of 'sliding' the pen to the next finger instead of harsh swinging it there. -
Date: Sun, Sep 9 2007 22:43:29
Ok, thanks for the advice on that! I think I will keep practicing this Fingerpass, and try to do a thumbaround
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Date: Sun, Sep 16 2007 01:53:39
my fingerpass is pretty bad coming back up. is it better to practice fast even though its bad? or to practice slow and smooth?
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Date: Sun, Sep 16 2007 01:56:41
I would say slow to begin with, making sure the pen is being touched by the fingertips and not the middle of the finger. After going slow practicing the correct technique you can move onto trying it fast for a little while and then back slow to make sure you keep using the right technique.
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Date: Sun, Sep 16 2007 01:58:57
Start slow, make it as smooth as you can then speed up. Dont wanna develop bad habbits and have a crappy FP.
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Date: Sun, Sep 16 2007 02:00:46
I just have one question, do you move your hand at Fingerpass Normal? I'm not moving my hand right now, and I dont know if I should or not. Thanks in advance.
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Date: Sun, Sep 16 2007 02:03:25
The Fingerpass combo doesn't need any hand movement at all. The only movement should be your fingers as they move the pen between them.
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Date: Sun, Sep 16 2007 02:04:31
Oh I see, because in videos, I see some hand movements in them (not including fingers) so I wasn't sure. Thanks sketching.
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Date: Sun, Sep 16 2007 18:11:59
hand movement isn't necessary in any way, sometimes the angle you have your hand will make a difference though. Personally when I was starting out of the FP I used heavy long objects like those super-long novelty pencils to train with. The added momentum keeps the pen moving the way it should be and it helps to train your fingers to go at the right speed and in the right directions.
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Date: Sun, Sep 16 2007 18:59:22
What angle should the wrist be held at during the finegrpass? I feel like it should be perfectly straight, but I always end up angling my wrist outwards because this makes it easier for me to do the pass. But in Bonkura's "tutorial", he angles his wrist slightly inwards. Is this a problem? Should I work to correct this habit, or will it not matter in the long run?
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Date: Sun, Sep 16 2007 19:43:10
Below is the usual angle that I do Fingerpass in, hand is vertical. Since I learned Fingerpass while also learning Sonic, it made sense to have my hand in the same position:
http://media.putfile.com/Fingerpass-Normal-combo -
Date: Sun, Sep 16 2007 20:53:29
Thanks Sketching, but my real question (that I didn't articulate clearly enough the first time) is "does it matter?". Should I bother changing my habit, or are all spinners different in this regard and I shouldn't bother changing?
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Date: Sun, Sep 16 2007 20:55:59
Nope, do what you want.
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Date: Mon, Sep 17 2007 11:29:48QUOTE (ShoeMan @ Sep 9 2007, 12:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>when doing the 34-23, unlike most passes, 2,3 and 4 should not be all touching the pen at the same time, but you rather "throw" the pen from 34 to 23 in a ring around reverse fashion, only much weaker, then practice the 23-34 *throw thing*- 23, after that practice the entire combo, eventually you'll get it
Thanks alot for that tip! My fingerpass has always been kinda sloppy, but after I tried what you said not only did it get smoother, I also learned rev. ringaround =) -
Date: Tue, Sep 18 2007 04:00:13
I'm sure this advice has been given, but i just made sure that when i do it, i make sure m fingers stay out of the way till they need to hit the pen. I feel like an idiot posting this, but it works for me.
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Date: Tue, Sep 18 2007 05:04:09
How long does it take to get it extremely smooth? I'm thinking about working on mine.
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Date: Tue, Sep 18 2007 05:11:57
however long it takes you... =.=
it prob took me 1 month or so, but the results are awesome -
Date: Tue, Sep 18 2007 05:18:51
1 month is pretty fast don't you think? I've been spinning for about 2 years and I'm still bad.
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Date: Tue, Sep 18 2007 05:38:59
well... if u start counting from when i wanted to do the trick, it wus like 6 months, but when i actually started practicing it a lot, a month is what it took for me.
and practicing a lot is like... till my hand hurt -
Date: Tue, Sep 18 2007 09:27:03
Haha, yeah, keep practicing, but if your hands start to hurt, take a break. I know that is often said, but seriously. Don't hurt your hands over a hobby, when you need them to write, and stuff like that.
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Date: Wed, Sep 19 2007 12:45:36
If you do fingerpass with a long pen it is much smoother and looks better.
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Date: Wed, Sep 19 2007 16:44:42
IMO, fingerpass is a trick you should get really smooth before starting to get more inte penspinning.
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Date: Wed, Sep 19 2007 20:57:53
Fingerpass takes too long to get good so people tend to skip ahead and learn fingerpass along the way. Also, i regret learning fingerpass normal first...i would recommend people learn reverse fingerpass first since its more useful imo.
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Date: Thu, Sep 20 2007 06:44:18
I found the Pass Normal from 34-23 to be really easy, but it's Reverse really puts the strain on my pinky. Is it just a matter of strengthening it more?
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Date: Thu, Sep 20 2007 06:57:45
Yep, you just need to work the fingers until they get used to doing that motion. I had the same problem, but with Pass Reverse. I had little trouble doing the Pass Reverse 34-23, but Pass Normal 34-23 took a lot of practice to do smoothly.
I kept doing the following to build up strength for that Pass:
Pass Normal 34-23 > Pass Normal 23-34 > Pass Normal 34-23 > etc....
If you just do a lot of Passes Reverse 34-23, you'll build up strength with that motion pretty quickly. -
Date: Thu, Sep 20 2007 07:24:19
Ah yes, it really is helping. The motion is becoming a bit more familiar.
A bit hard to keep up with the 34-23-34-23... exercise since I keep subconsciously passing 23 back to 12, but it's been going fine either way. -
Date: Thu, Sep 20 2007 10:29:11QUOTE (K4S @ Sep 19 2007, 04:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Fingerpass takes too long to get good so people tend to skip ahead and learn fingerpass along the way. Also, i regret learning fingerpass normal first...i would recommend people learn reverse fingerpass first since its more useful imo.
Fingerpass reverse is very easy to learn after normal, though. I almost never do fingerpass reverse but it's almost as good as my fingerpass normal just because i can practice it for like 30 minutes & get very quickly good. Fingerpass normal however requires lots of work to be good at. -
Date: Thu, Sep 20 2007 23:04:35QUOTE (healthy boy @ Sep 20 2007, 04:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Fingerpass reverse is very easy to learn after normal, though. I almost never do fingerpass reverse but it's almost as good as my fingerpass normal just because i can practice it for like 30 minutes & get very quickly good. Fingerpass normal however requires lots of work to be good at.
Hmm.. I have the opposite thinking of you >.< It should be different for every person i think -
Date: Thu, Sep 20 2007 23:48:00QUOTE (Chungy @ Sep 20 2007, 06:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hmm.. I have the opposite thinking of you >.< It should be different for every person i think
It seems like it often goes like this, i don't practice reverse fingerpass but i do fingerpass normal constantly. however i can practice fingerpass reverse & get good at doing it, but i dont like it as a trick, so i rarely use it. but if i need to learn it for a combo i just practice & its fast.
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Date: Mon, Oct 22 2007 01:50:21
Is it okay to be using your thumb to guide the pen during some of the passes?
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Date: Mon, Oct 22 2007 01:55:16
Not if you want the smoothest Passes possible. The smoothest trick uses the least amount of excessive movement and energy to accomplish what needs to be done. Bringing in more fingers than there should be generally isn't a good idea. That's why we (for example) encourage people to stop using the thumb for Sonics as soon as they understand the trick and its motion. The thumb can be a hinderance to linking later on.
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Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 00:43:20
This may not belong in the advanced tricks but I thought it may.
It seems like he's doing something different, but I don't know what.
They're always so buttery smooth. D: -
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 00:53:45
It's just a regular fingerpass. It's also what a good fingerpass looks like.
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Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 00:56:40
fingerpass is a fundamental,
it's just very smooth that's all. -
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 00:59:53
I suppose. D:~
I think I'll just keep practicing to see if I can get like that. :/ -
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 01:04:32
the smooth fingerpass i never seen..very fast..
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Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 09:01:41
HEY! that's very much like what I explained to somebody here a long ago...gah nvm..
is mine smooth?any tips? -
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 09:07:52
Erg, I'm having issues getting mine to be smooth like that. Are there certain finger exercises that could help make the fingerpass as smooth as that?
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Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 09:14:52QUOTE (XtinE @ Nov 25 2007, 05:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Erg, I'm having issues getting mine to be smooth like that. Are there certain finger exercises that could help make the fingerpass as smooth as that?
Practice
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Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 18:59:53
Have a combo lead up to the fingerpass.
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Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 19:04:17QUOTE (XtinE @ Nov 25 2007, 03:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Are there certain finger exercises that could help make the fingerpass as smooth as that?
I thought that some of these helped.
http://youtube.com/user/lgiugno
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Date: Tue, Nov 27 2007 02:04:50
@ 4GO57O, that's pretty smooth but your getting hung up on the pinky like I was for a time. Slow it down the speed your going during the lag and then gradually improve. Otherwise it looks great.
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Date: Tue, Nov 27 2007 12:22:05
You might want to make sure when practicing that the time from one finger to another is the same for each finger. Otherwise when you get it faster it might slow up in some parts and speed down in others. It's just practice though, I practiced mine for a little while, and I definitely saw improvement.
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Date: Mon, Dec 3 2007 10:15:51
are there any tips for keeping the COP/COG in the middle 'cos it keeps slipping out of place for me...
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Date: Mon, Dec 3 2007 20:05:18
Since the pen is wrapping around the fingers, the COP will move, no stopping that. You will either have to let the pen slide between the fingers after each step of the combo to re-align the COP, or just practice until none of the steps have any sliding, then the COP will be in the same place after a full cycle of Passes. Since Fingerpass is a combo that should start and stop in the same position, the COP should be in the same position before the first push and after the final catch. In between, as the pen is being Passed, the COP will have some changes that will have to be delt with in how you handle the pen if you are not doing full Fingerpass combos.
If the pen is slipping too much during the combo, you should pinch the pen tighter when performing the Passes, keeping the pen under control, that just comes with practice. -
Date: Tue, Dec 4 2007 00:39:28
thanks!~ i forgot to say that it was sliding wayyyy too much and now it's more in the middle xD
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Date: Mon, Dec 31 2007 02:58:51
Hello, and a wonderfull (whatever daytime you might be reading this...)
Surely a newbie question, but the pen aways slides away, if it falls, while beeing between the ring- and the small finger (pinky, I guess). When it is in front of the knuckle, near the finger tip.
Should the pen be behind the first knuckle of all fingers, or is it normal, that it is near the fingertip when reaching the pinky, finger number 5?
Thumb is finger one, right? Or don't you count thumb as a finger?
Thanks, everybody..
TheHOINK
P.S., I use MMX NX for Fingerpass as a Newbie, the normal RSVP1 is too light-weighted. You think it's better to start with easy pens or is it better to start of with modded pens you are more comfortable with? -
Date: Mon, Dec 31 2007 03:07:05
well, as you get better, your fingerpass should be near your fingertips...so that's past the first phalynx (not sure if that's teh correct spelling, but it's not called the first knuckle
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it's fine that it's near the fingertips when it goes near the pinky, it's suppose too...just like how it's suppose to for all teh other fingers as well, but that comes with practice
thumb is not finger 1, the index is finger 1...the thumb is referred to as T
and i guess whatever pen you feel comfortable with is fine
but i suggest starting with lighter pens just so that your fingers dont' make that sudden jump from normally using light pens (when writing) to using heavy pens (for spinnign)
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Date: Sat, Jan 5 2008 21:31:50
Hello everybody, i have this problem with my fingerpass, i recently started pen spinning though i don't consider myself a penspinner yet because im not very good... besides that im trying to do a good fingerpass, i can pass it between my fingers but my pinky is wierd and doesn't move separately from my ring finger.
I don't know if this problem is normal or not but i need it to move separately from my ring finger in order to do the finger pass properly or the pen always gets stuck, can anybody help me? -
Date: Sat, Jan 5 2008 21:37:41
Go look in the Hand Care forum for threads on finger strength and mobility.
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Date: Sun, Jan 6 2008 13:25:00
It took me 5 days to make my fingerpass normal really smooth.
I've been doing fingerpass for 4 years now,but it's not the normal fingerpass.
I don't know the exact name of it,but it's like fingerpass normal T1 - 12 - 23 - 34 > Fingerpass rev 34 - 23 - 12 - T1.
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Date: Sun, Jan 6 2008 14:07:07
half FingerPass Harmonic?
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Date: Mon, Jan 7 2008 20:05:47
I got a smooth fingerpass, except for the 34-23 transition
it just slows all my fingerpass down and it sux. how am i supposed to do it fast?
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Date: Mon, Jan 7 2008 21:21:40
i can't do that part either >.< and i think that just takes practice
but something that i'm trying to do when practicing though, instead of just practicing while doing soem other activity at the same time, think about how your fingers are suppose to move ahead of time
so think ahead
so right after when you do pass 23-34 (so, right when your middle finger is free), bring fingers 1 and 2 up, so taht when you do pass 34-23, you can jsut pull your middle finger down once the pen gets up over the pinky finger
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Date: Wed, Jan 9 2008 08:01:01QUOTE (DaThroat @ Jan 6 2008, 09:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>half FingerPass Harmonic?
I don't know... I've seen a Japanese Pen Spinning Video,introducing some cool spinners like Bonkura,and introducing some fundamental tricks.
They showed the "Half Fingerpass Harmonic" trick,calling it "Drummer".
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Date: Thu, Jan 10 2008 01:03:47
@^: I think when they said "Drummer", I think they were demonstrating the pass from 12 to T1.
You usually do a Drummer after a fingerpass (or at least, Bonkura did always end with a Drummer after a Fingerpass) -
Date: Thu, Jan 10 2008 03:04:10
Edit:
Drummer
Pass Normal 34-23 > Pass Normal 23-12 > Pass Normal 12-T1 (Aysh's site)
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Pass Normal 34-23 > Pass Normal 23-12 > NeoSonic 12-T1 (Hideaki's site?) I remember this always being said before. -
Date: Thu, Jan 10 2008 12:10:43
Thats right, i mean, u just need to train all time and then u can do the same thing as bonkura
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Date: Fri, Jan 11 2008 19:06:16
I have a question: When doing the fingerpass, which part should the pen be touching? I used to do it with the middle section of my fingers, but lately I don't seem to be able to perform faster and smoother passes. Should I try doing passes with the first section, ie. near the tips of the fingers, or at the joint between the first and second sections?
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Date: Fri, Jan 11 2008 21:12:30
Yes, making the pen travel near the tips of the fingers would allow for faster and smoother passes IMO.
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Date: Sat, Jan 12 2008 21:31:07QUOTE (Gabriel @ Jan 11 2008, 11:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I have a question: When doing the fingerpass, which part should the pen be touching? I used to do it with the middle section of my fingers, but lately I don't seem to be able to perform faster and smoother passes. Should I try doing passes with the first section, ie. near the tips of the fingers, or at the joint between the first and second sections?
Here's how I do mine:
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Date: Tue, Jan 15 2008 04:06:25
Guess I'll keep practicing. This is definately one of the harder fundamentals for me.
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Date: Wed, Jan 16 2008 21:00:23
could someone give exact instructions on how i should move the middle finger - after doing 23-34, when the middle finger is free from the pen, should i bend it or pull it away? not really sure
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Date: Wed, Jan 16 2008 21:16:05
after pass 23-34, you wanna bring your middle finger out (so away from you) so that when you go from pass 34>23, the middle finger's already there to come down to meet the pen
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Date: Thu, Jan 24 2008 21:39:15QUOTEbut my pinky is wierd and doesn't move separately from my ring finger.
That's the same with me.
I've been practing the fingerpass for about the last 2-3 weeks and I have encountered a problem when I try to do the 34-23 as fast as I can. As the pen swings and my middle fingers comes out to grab it my middle finger hits the pen, killing all the momentum.
Any tips for fixing this problem?
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Date: Sun, Jan 27 2008 17:33:45
Do I need to use a heavier pen? I mean, weight affects the momentum (thus more push from the pen itself).
I said it because before I got into pen spinning, I was spinning drumsticks and badminton rackets. I could do it smoothly with those, so I thought heavier pens would do the same
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Date: Thu, Feb 14 2008 05:36:32
so herss the problem. i have been practicing this for a few days and i have noticed that when doing the passes, my thumb has a habit of bending towards the palm of my hand. is this supposed to happen? does it effect my spinning? is it bad form?
so should i stop doing that? any answers would be helpful.
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Date: Thu, Feb 14 2008 17:46:24
this is pretty common, its all about finger independence.
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Date: Sun, Feb 24 2008 17:56:28
I have the most problem with 12-23. My pass just gets choppy at that moment. Can't see a way to reduce the lag.
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Date: Tue, Mar 11 2008 05:19:56
ok, i got all the passes down, but hey r choppy and not smooth. is there a way to make the pen pass smoother and faster from one finger to the other? so ihead that u use the forward momentum of the pen to gain speed and smoother passess?
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Date: Tue, Mar 11 2008 20:43:46
You should hold the Pen at your Finger Tips ... and .. just practise.. it's pretty hard to get FP smooth.
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Date: Wed, Mar 12 2008 11:10:43QUOTE (emblem @ Feb 24 2008, 05:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I have the most problem with 12-23. My pass just gets choppy at that moment. Can't see a way to reduce the lag.
practice double charge...with that you'll be able to get 12-23 in fp veeeeeeeeeeeery well -
Date: Sat, Mar 15 2008 04:29:33
would this be classified as a good fingerpass?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ilpla92GNw -
Date: Sat, Mar 15 2008 05:01:46QUOTE (Dritan Zulbeari @ Mar 14 2008, 11:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
not bad -
Date: Thu, Mar 20 2008 00:11:12
Hmm..I just see that good fingerpass has no thumb movement.. Is it normal that each time it reaches 12 I put my thumb more to my hand and then put it backward?!
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Date: Thu, Mar 20 2008 02:58:00QUOTE (Shock @ Mar 19 2008, 07:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hmm..I just see that good fingerpass has no thumb movement.. Is it normal that each time it reaches 12 I put my thumb more to my hand and then put it backward?!
Thanks
thumb movement in no way affects fingerpass IMO.
i can do a fairly smooth fingerpass (WITH A BALLSIGN!) and my thumb still moves.
so i don't think anything is wrong
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Date: Fri, Mar 21 2008 17:34:06QUOTE (TeddyTemptation @ Mar 19 2008, 10:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>thumb movement in no way affects fingerpass IMO.
i can do a fairly smooth fingerpass (WITH A BALLSIGN!) and my thumb still moves.
so i don't think anything is wrong
Allright Thanks TT
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Date: Mon, Apr 7 2008 23:27:52
yep thumb has nothing to do with fingerpass: unless u do pass 12-T1. XD i tried it. didnt work.
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Date: Tue, Apr 8 2008 00:20:04
It would be interesting to fingerpass with the T1 slot as well.
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Date: Wed, Apr 9 2008 20:07:43QUOTE (someone09 @ Apr 7 2008, 07:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>It would be interesting to fingerpass with the T1 slot as well.
i think the japanese have something called 'drummer' isntead of fingerpass as their fundumental, and its basically passes from 34 to T1 -
Date: Thu, Apr 10 2008 13:30:50
The key to a good fingerpass is to hold the pen at the tip of your fingers and to practice. I see people hold it in the middle section of their fingers... you'll never go as fast as you possibly could if you held it at the edge. My fingers dry out fast so my pen slips out of my fingers easily sometimes. When my hands arent dry, I fingerpass as quickly and as smooth as Bonkura in his tutorial... just not as fast as his other videos... dang he's fast! I just wish I had a video recorder...
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Date: Thu, Apr 10 2008 19:53:42
It depends on what pen you use. If you can fingerpass as smooth/quickly as bonkura with a ballsign, I'll be amazed.
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Date: Thu, Apr 10 2008 21:40:58QUOTE (FreeLancer @ Apr 9 2008, 08:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I started with the fingerpass counterclockwise (i think this is reverse 'cus im right handed). I'm just so used to that now. Im goin to have a hard time getting a good smooth normal fingerpass
the clockwise = reverse
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Date: Fri, Apr 11 2008 13:59:49QUOTE (someone09 @ Apr 10 2008, 03:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>It depends on what pen you use. If you can fingerpass as smooth/quickly as bonkura with a ballsign, I'll be amazed.
I use an RSVP NX MMT... What makes a ballsign hard?
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Date: Sun, Apr 13 2008 23:53:57
i can't do a finger pass smoothly because when the pen gets to my pinky it(pinky) won't open up wide enough to catch the pen.
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Date: Mon, Apr 14 2008 00:08:19QUOTE (SevinosI @ Apr 13 2008, 07:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i can't do a finger pass smoothly because when the pen gets to my pinky it(pinky) won't open up wide enough to catch the pen.
What do you mean? Before it reaches the ring or pinky just curl them up as in a peace sign (excluding the thumb); the pen should move into the slot. -
Date: Mon, Apr 14 2008 00:34:39
Only bad about my fingerpass is my ring finger!! only sloppy bit is the pass between 34-23 - My ring finger doesnt get into its position fast enough and theres a small delay. Any suggestions?
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Date: Mon, Apr 28 2008 11:25:11
This would have to be the HARDEST fundamental for me to learn smoothly...
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Date: Mon, Apr 28 2008 12:41:58
Don't worry. I don't know how to smoothen it up. I been fingerpassing for 3 days.
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Date: Mon, Apr 28 2008 19:18:57
Just keep practicing. FP takes the longest time to get smooth. For me it helps if I keep my fingers slightly bent, so it's easier for me to move my fingers back to let the pen to go through.
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Date: Wed, May 7 2008 23:13:56
Here's Mine... finally.
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Date: Thu, May 15 2008 00:11:37
when im going from 34 back to 12 i pause quick is there something i can do or am i doing it totally wrong?
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Date: Thu, May 15 2008 01:17:46
Unbent your middle finger JUST AFTER doing the pass 23-34
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Date: Thu, May 15 2008 18:49:00
ok thanks
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Date: Fri, May 16 2008 12:52:12
I learnt my fingerpass staring from 34 and doing it clockwise but i have a problem getting it from 23-34
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Date: Fri, May 16 2008 21:00:11
more or less it think its easy to learn, getting it smooth and fast is hard tho
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Date: Thu, Jun 5 2008 22:08:26
Since I'm a total nub at all this, what do all the numbers represent? XD
I think I've figured out they stand for in between fingers, but I'm not sure, verification anyone? -
Date: Fri, Jun 6 2008 03:01:52
If someone says 1, it means your index finger.
1=index finger
2=middle finger
3=ring finger
4=pinky
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Date: Fri, Jun 6 2008 04:47:10QUOTE (Missle_Z @ Jun 5 2008, 08:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>If someone says 1, it means your index finger.
1=index finger
2=middle finger
3=ring finger
4=pinky
If you say 12 slot, it means the slot in between the index and middle finger.
Okay that's what I thought thanks :]
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Date: Fri, Jun 6 2008 05:16:47QUOTE (mintoperson23 @ Jun 5 2008, 10:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Okay that's what I thought thanks :]
Also, has anyone tried adding their thumb to the finger pass?
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Date: Fri, Jun 6 2008 11:36:44
I't a neosonic 12-t1 to fingeless TA rev.
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Date: Fri, Jun 6 2008 12:26:16QUOTE (Stay'n Alive @ Jun 6 2008, 07:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I't a neosonic 12-t1 to fingeless TA rev.
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Date: Fri, Jun 6 2008 15:52:55
nononono, what Bonkura does in some videos is a neosonic 12-t1 to fingerlss TA rev.
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Date: Sun, Jun 8 2008 05:15:16
before i knew pen spinning was like a sport or w/e i would spin my pen in school
ide always do a reverse fingerpass... my brain must be broken....but i think the reverse should actually be the normal way of doing it... it came naturaly to me...
so ya... as a consaquence my reverse FP kiks my normal FP's butt -
Date: Sun, Jun 8 2008 06:54:12QUOTE (teamuny @ Jun 7 2008, 09:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>before i knew pen spinning was like a sport or w/e i would spin my pen in school
ide always do a reverse fingerpass... my brain must be broken....but i think the reverse should actually be the normal way of doing it... it came naturaly to me...
so ya... as a consaquence my reverse FP kiks my normal FP's butt
i believe the reverse is the initial idea of how to do the fp, but the normal is capable of going faster. so that if you spend the same amount of time on each, the normal will be faster -
Date: Sun, Jun 8 2008 11:29:28
Yeah, I initially did the reverse, but once I worked on the normal as well, I found that the reverse was a lot harder to get smooth.
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Date: Sat, Jun 21 2008 01:46:34
yep, i learned FP rev by myself before i actually got into penspinning. i can FP rev about 55/min, but my normal is only 43/min.
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Date: Sun, Jun 29 2008 17:12:31
when practising fingerpass how do you guys do it? do you do it slow? or as fast as you can?
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Date: Sun, Jun 29 2008 20:37:46QUOTE (000zero0000 @ Jun 29 2008, 01:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>when practising fingerpass how do you guys do it? do you do it slow? or as fast as you can?
start slow and gradually speed up. Eventually, if you do it gradually enough you can get really fast in about a month or so. -
Date: Wed, Aug 13 2008 13:18:50
i can't pass smoothly from middle ring to ring pinky
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Date: Wed, Aug 13 2008 19:31:50
You have to bend you pinky. Just push it harder when pen is between middle and index, pass it slightly light to ring and pinky.
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Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 05:41:48
Hey, I'm having a lot of trouble bending my finger 3 far enough out of the way, so I keep hitting it on the 34-23 pass. (Sorry if I did it wrong; I've been trying this for one day and this is my first try at the lingo).
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Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 05:58:18
You just need to try your hardest to move your 3rd finger outta the way. I know it's really hard to break these habits, but there's nothing else you can do.
And no, Fingerpass is a very good trick to be learning first because it's a fundamental and it's something you SHOULD be learning first.
I made the mistake of not learning it until I was already spinning 6 months
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Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 15:10:08
Well, day two. After sleeping and resting my fingers I'm doing an little better.
Though actually using a pen sucks, I use two unsharpened pencils glued together for added weight and stability. If I feel like I'm not getting anywhere, I use a 2-foot long rod that is 1 cm thick and start doing it. I can do it fine with that thing.
The way up from and down to the 34 is just really hard. Sometimes I get down to it fine but the pencil is too far out and I lose my grip.
Also, even if I get lucky and manage to get two or three in a row, it slowly creeps in closer to my hand and then I get locked up. How should I prevent that from happening? Point my hand toward the floor?
EDIT: Oh yeah, and sometimes on the 23-34 I have trouble pushing the pencil down for enough for my 4 (pinky) to grab it. So I struggle to latch on to it, and that sends the pencil flying out of my grip. -
Date: Mon, Aug 18 2008 15:46:40
Seriously, if you want to perform the fingerpass fast, smooth and good:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3m_Y8TRUXM
I saw this after my first few weeks of spinning, and It has helped A LOT! Use the edge of your fingers. Using the middle of your fingers is too slow, sloppy, and hard to pass to and from 34. This way, you dont need to move your ring finger very much to get it out of the way. -
Date: Mon, Aug 18 2008 19:07:49
Putting in the end of the fingers is kinda obvious, if you try doing in the first joint (how do you call the first bend in the finger >_>) you'll most likely get stuck in the ring finger, considering that it bends a little different from the other fingers.
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Date: Tue, Sep 2 2008 13:47:28
I keep bending my fingers when doing the fingerpass, but my friend says I should stretch my fingers..
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Date: Tue, Sep 2 2008 17:48:45
What do you mean Ivivis? I bend them only to catch the pen from the previous finger, how else would you catch it >.<.
I'm quite new to pen spinning anyway, so i don't know much
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Date: Tue, Sep 2 2008 22:55:46
Your freind is stupid, do it however you think is best =]
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Date: Wed, Sep 17 2008 03:37:24
when i try to go from 34-23 my ring finger bends like 90 degrees and the pen falls off, but if i try to keep it to more than 90 degrees, or making slightly straighter, the pens ends up much lower in the 23 slot, and its really choopy. i watched bonkura's tutorial on it but he does it so fast that i cant even see the details
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Date: Wed, Sep 17 2008 04:07:34QUOTE (IdioticInsomnia @ Sep 16 2008, 08:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>when i try to go from 34-23 my ring finger bends like 90 degrees and the pen falls off, but if i try to keep it to more than 90 degrees, or making slightly straighter, the pens ends up much lower in the 23 slot, and its really choopy. i watched bonkura's tutorial on it but he does it so fast that i cant even see the details Any tips?
I'm no fingerpass pro...but just relax your fingers, and put a bit more strength into your push where you're having trouble.
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Date: Thu, Sep 18 2008 04:32:32
Instead of thinking of it as *passing the pen* THink more of it as, the pen is falling, and youa re just using your fingers to keep it in place, so the pen shud glide down you fingers without pushes, and then smoothly glide up from the momentum of it glideing down, practicing this will help you get a smoother figner pass =]
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Date: Fri, Sep 19 2008 19:24:22
Wow, shoeman, that really helped. Thanks!
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Date: Fri, Sep 19 2008 20:56:19
Very welcome
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Date: Sat, Sep 20 2008 12:50:44
It seems that when ever i pass the pen from 23 to my pinky, the pinky bends to much and thus stops the momentum... Any ideea what to do?
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Date: Sat, Sep 20 2008 13:45:44
Try practicing a smooth rise starting from the pinky and after you get the fall and the risesmooth the transition will seem easier =]
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Date: Sun, Sep 21 2008 11:55:15
Hm.. I am wondering what do you guys do to keep the pen(cil) balanced when doing FP? I start puting it betwen my fingers and when i finish the combo(34-12) my fingers are always at the end of the pen.... Can't keep the middle betwen them
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Date: Sun, Sep 21 2008 12:07:44
You shouldn't ;D
THe unblanced ness makes the momentum of it keep going =D
the downward fall bring the pen back to the middle so that it can be done continuisilly -
Date: Sun, Sep 21 2008 13:21:36
I uploaded a video... I am not sure i am doing it right
! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFArgqUrg3o Am i doing the finger pass wrong? -
Date: Sun, Sep 21 2008 13:32:27
No, its correct but you should fold in your pinky like you do, instead, it should be held between 4 and 3, and closer to the outer knucle rahter than in the palm of your hand.
YOu sitll ahve a "choppy" motion.
Try practicing jsut the 34- to -23 pass where it goes through your pinky, the pen is held be TWO fingers, not jsut the pinky,
THe pen never really goes "arround" your pinky =] -
Date: Mon, Sep 22 2008 13:32:51QUOTE (shoeman6 @ Sep 21 2008, 04:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>[...] closer to the outer knucle rahter than in the palm of your hand[...]
Any tips on how to do that? Any hand exercisez or... dunno
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Date: Mon, Sep 22 2008 13:42:41
Try to go for fluidity first, not speed, use a larger pen? or maybe try it with a rolled up peice of paper thats taped =]
you r pinkny bends in, it should stay out and not *grip* t he pen like it is doing right now, use your mind and force your fingers to do what you tell them to =] -
Date: Mon, Sep 22 2008 17:23:36
Hehe thanks for you advice on a larger pen! I made a quick mod for my pencil and hehe
The difference cand be seen! And yes i will go for fluidity first! Can't wait to spin like a pro hehe ^^!
Pic of my first mod... http://b.imagehost.org/view/0447/DSC02066.jpg -
Date: Mon, Sep 22 2008 20:46:57
Very welcome =D! makes me feeal fulfilled after I help new-bs =D!!! have fun with your penspinning carreer as you will soon surpass me in skill level and i'll be going to YOU for answers xD
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Date: Mon, Sep 22 2008 23:41:26
How fast can you guys do a fingerpass
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Date: Tue, Sep 23 2008 01:55:45
its not about fast, its about smooth =]
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Date: Tue, Sep 23 2008 06:45:51
thanks shoeman6!! im going to try the whole "letting the pen fall" thing instead of trying to grip it
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Date: Tue, Sep 23 2008 21:13:21
NP =] , if it's your first timet rying the figner pass however Is uggest going very slowly and jsut trying tog et the motion ;D but after you get that down and want to make it smoother or if nothing is working you should try the looser hold.
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Date: Tue, Sep 23 2008 23:49:19
ill post a vid later haha and you can see what i need to work on
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Date: Tue, Oct 7 2008 16:05:46
Well this is how i am doing my Finger Pass now... Its a little better then before but... dunno i feel like i am missing something :|! Any tips to do it better?
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Date: Tue, Oct 7 2008 16:10:21
Not bad. Pretty smooth. Love the camera, it's like it has a mind of it's own...lol.
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Date: Wed, Oct 8 2008 04:36:29QUOTE (zapakitul @ Oct 7 2008, 09:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Well this is how i am doing my Finger Pass now... Its a little better then before but... dunno i feel like i am missing something :|! Any tips to do it better?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87obwApMs9U
Impressive, you've got most of the smoothness down. Now all you need is speed and the ability to link it. -
Date: Wed, Oct 8 2008 05:53:55
your video was taken down.
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Date: Wed, Oct 8 2008 11:54:25QUOTE (Hira @ Oct 8 2008, 08:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>your video was taken down.
Works for me o.O -
Date: Thu, Oct 9 2008 10:26:20
i really need to work on my fingerpass
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Date: Thu, Oct 9 2008 12:12:51
Guys, I only started PS some time ago and I have to say that Fingerpass needs alot of patience. It's not something that you will learn in a few days. At the start obviously your FP is going to be very choppy, but as the days go you're only going to improve
So don't be discouraged if you can't do it smooth now, it does take time. Hope I helped, and remember, be patient! -
Date: Sun, Oct 26 2008 05:44:45
hey guys
ive been trying the fingerpass for about a week now and im getting better but when it gets to pass 23-34 i get it between my ring finger and middle finger then the pen stops as my little finger gets underneath so i can keep going..
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Date: Sun, Oct 26 2008 20:56:16QUOTE (SeanyMO @ Oct 25 2008, 10:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>hey guys
ive been trying the fingerpass for about a week now and im getting better but when it gets to pass 23-34 i get it between my ring finger and middle finger then the pen stops as my little finger gets underneath so i can keep going..
if anyone has any tips please help
One word...Practice. Seriously, I had the exact same problem when I learned Fingerpass, but I just kept practicing, and now, my fingerpass is really smooth now.
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Date: Mon, Oct 27 2008 07:06:27
A really good thing I did when I was practicing finger pass was I'd use my left hand to hold the pen and kind of trace the path through my right hand. Imo it helps a lot with your fingers learning how and where to move them.
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Date: Tue, Oct 28 2008 13:01:56
So far I'm improving on my Fingerpass...
but...
my hand automatically tilts when I pass it from 12-23.
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Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 01:21:27
Which way does it tilt? And does it really affect the fingerpass? I've never heard of a problem where someone tilts their hand while doing Fingerpass...but who knows, it might even help with palm down passes.
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Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 02:38:47
It never really affects my Fingerpasses, but good idea, the palm down thing could be helpful, thanks!
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Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 03:34:48QUOTE (ttwbioraka @ Oct 28 2008, 07:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>It never really affects my Fingerpasses, but good idea, the palm down thing could be helpful, thanks!
No problem, but yeah if the tilting doesn't affect your Fingerpass it's a good thing, means your style is being shown through your spinning and the way you do tricks. A VERY good thing. -
Date: Wed, Oct 29 2008 07:11:34
Well Fingerpass.if u do it real quick.
It'll probably look like a loop. -
Date: Thu, Oct 30 2008 03:50:02
I almost have the fingerpass smooth. *happyface*
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Date: Thu, Oct 30 2008 03:53:20
dang, i still can't do finger pass smoothly....although I can do all other tricks much easily (sonics, shadows, TA's, infinity's). Any1 have any tips to help me???
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Date: Thu, Oct 30 2008 04:02:47
TO the above poster... Practice..
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Date: Thu, Oct 30 2008 04:08:56
i do, but i feel that my fingers were meant to do other tricks, not fingerpasses, for some reason. I still practice it alot.
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Date: Thu, Oct 30 2008 04:13:20
Watch some videos to get " inspired ". Don't put the pen on the middle of the fingers, put it close to the tip of your fingers.
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Date: Thu, Oct 30 2008 04:26:03
yeah just figured i'd throw this in here
FP and FP rev at 1:00
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Date: Thu, Oct 30 2008 05:00:11
When you do the fingerpass ... do the fingers have to get the middle of the pen???
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Date: Thu, Oct 30 2008 05:02:25
eventually you can sort of subconsciously control the pen's position in your hand
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Date: Thu, Oct 30 2008 10:51:32QUOTE (Shadowserpant @ Oct 30 2008, 04:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>eventually you can sort of subconsciously control the pen's position in your hand
So when you get smooth and good at it ... it SHOULD be in the middle of the pen, right?
Because when I do it, it goes to the side then I have to slowly and carefully re-adjust it with my next finger.
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Date: Thu, Oct 30 2008 22:43:19
yes, exactly
eventually, you'll just automatically readjust when you need to
you'll get used to it, dont worry
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Date: Fri, Oct 31 2008 00:46:13
I can get a smooth(yet slow =/) finger pass , but when I get to 34-23 going back up the pen is near the bottom of my fingers, and I can't get my ring finger under it.
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Date: Fri, Oct 31 2008 02:03:41
What I find helps sometimes if all else fails is to stare dirctly at the pen while I'm practicing, and focus really hard. But you have a specific problem, Turtlepee, so I recommend doing that but focusing your focus(lolwut?) at the part you're having trouble. Of course it's not guaranteed to work.
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Date: Sat, Nov 1 2008 03:30:15
That makes sense. Thanks!
I've been getting that part a little more lately, too. I've been trying to only do fingerpasses, so whenever I spin it is constant practice. -
Date: Tue, Nov 4 2008 23:58:17
Is it harder to do the fingerpass than it's reverse?
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Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 01:17:55QUOTE (Lafter @ Nov 4 2008, 03:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Is it harder to do the fingerpass than it's reverse?
Not necessarily. Both are equally hard to perfect. -
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 01:46:04
Reverse is harder to get faster.
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Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 01:53:17
Yeah, but it kind of depends on which one you learn first.
If you learn Fingerpass Normal first like me, you'll be able to do it much faster than the Reverse.
My friend, learned Fingerpass Reverse before Fingerpass Normal. As a result, he can do Fingerpass Reverse much faster and smoother than I can, but his Fingerpass Normal isn't as fast as mine.
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Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 02:23:39
i never really liked the fingerpass. it took me a LONG time to get it smooth and i still havnt perfected it
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Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 03:19:32
I never really practiced Fingerpass itself as much as I just do combos with a lot of passes in them...so my Fingerpass is tolerable now.
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Date: Tue, Nov 11 2008 12:43:12
Um, hello guys. I kinda prefer starting Fingerpass Normal on my 34.
Breakdown:
Pass 34-23 -> Pass 23-12 -> Pass 12-23 -> Pass 23-34
It kinda goes up and down instead of down and up of the usual starting position of 12.
Is this advisable..? Since I kinda feel more comfortable starting in 34. And somehow my Pass 23-34 ain't really that smooth, my pinky get a little retarded after Pass 12-23. -
Date: Tue, Nov 11 2008 18:44:19QUOTE (Scandiacus @ Nov 11 2008, 04:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Um, hello guys. I kinda prefer starting Fingerpass Normal on my 34.
Breakdown:
Pass 34-23 -> Pass 23-12 -> Pass 12-23 -> Pass 23-34
It kinda goes up and down instead of down and up of the usual starting position of 12.
Is this advisable..? Since I kinda feel more comfortable starting in 34. And somehow my Pass 23-34 ain't really that smooth, my pinky get a little retarded after Pass 12-23.
You can start Fingerpass where ever you like, it doesn't matter as long as you can do it
About your pinky...what do you mean by retarded? More specific problems can more easily helped. And if you don't really know, then figure it out and that should help your Fingerpass too. -
Date: Wed, Nov 12 2008 02:32:15
i could do it very smoothly but i can only do it at medium speed, any tips/advice?
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Date: Wed, Nov 12 2008 02:37:45
practice >>
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Date: Wed, Nov 12 2008 10:24:50QUOTE (Missle_Z @ Nov 12 2008, 02:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>You can start Fingerpass where ever you like, it doesn't matter as long as you can do it
About your pinky...what do you mean by retarded? More specific problems can more easily helped. And if you don't really know, then figure it out and that should help your Fingerpass too.
You know...when my pinky's bent in, so will my ring finger and it will be kinda awkward to perform Pass 23-23, with a noticeable delay... -
Date: Thu, Nov 13 2008 03:00:18
That might even just be a lack of flexibility, and comes naturally the more you practice. I had the same problem, practice is the only remedy I can come up with for that. Sorry.
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Date: Thu, Nov 13 2008 10:49:08
Oh okay then. Thanks for your advice anyway
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Date: Sun, Nov 23 2008 01:49:03
I've been working on this for 3 days now and this is how it looks like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eq4QFNDdjI
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Date: Sun, Nov 23 2008 02:10:47QUOTE (Soulreaper @ Nov 22 2008, 08:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I've been working on this for 3 days now and this is how it looks like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eq4QFNDdjI
Is it pretty good?
That's really good for 3 days
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Date: Sun, Nov 23 2008 22:53:34
either i'm just a regular noob at PS, or my dexterity in my finger is incredibly terrible, even to normal standards. i started getting into PS 2 days ago and try some of the tricks out. so far all i can do are infinity normal and double infinity normal plus extended versions. learned them in minuets and can do them without effort. i can't do a FP to save my life. and when i do do it, it's slowr than the tutorials and i still drop an get stuck. my pinky and ring fingers are terrible. i see these vids of unmastered finger passes saying how bad it is and it's purely awesome compared to what i can do. maybe i'm expecting too much from myself, idk. i just know i want to get good and looks like an impossibility. i don't think i have the hands for it. any kind of help would be highly appreciated. FP seems pretty hard for a fundamental, though.
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Date: Wed, Nov 26 2008 13:46:53
yeah, I'm working on this trick atm
. I'm still working to get the transition from 23 - 34 and getting it smooth. I'm having difficulity with that for some reason... :/ -
Date: Wed, Nov 26 2008 15:29:44QUOTE (lordkagetorauesugi @ Nov 24 2008, 04:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>either i'm just a regular noob at PS, or my dexterity in my finger is incredibly terrible, even to normal standards. i started getting into PS 2 days ago and try some of the tricks out. so far all i can do are infinity normal and double infinity normal plus extended versions. learned them in minuets and can do them without effort. i can't do a FP to save my life. and when i do do it, it's slowr than the tutorials and i still drop an get stuck. my pinky and ring fingers are terrible. i see these vids of unmastered finger passes saying how bad it is and it's purely awesome compared to what i can do. maybe i'm expecting too much from myself, idk. i just know i want to get good and looks like an impossibility. i don't think i have the hands for it. any kind of help would be highly appreciated. FP seems pretty hard for a fundamental, though.
You got into PS 2 weeks ago and got double extended infinity??
That's just amazing dude..
Anyways, FP is IMO the easiest Fundamental. If you ask a non-PSer to do this he can. It's nothing but made up of passes. Just pracrice your passes.
Pass the pen from 12-23 and try it from 23-34. Lots of people have problems from 34-23 but you can just keep on trying 34-23 rather that 12-23-34-23. This is just in case you dont waste time.
For 12-23, bring in your index finger over your middle like your crossing it and your ring finger should have been bent. Now release you ring finger and the pen should be in between the middle and ring. Your index should have left the pen by now. Do the same for 23-34. If you have pinky problems try to pull you pinky back and forth (w/o the pen).
One more thing: While passing from one slot to another the pen has to be close to a vertical position.
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Date: Wed, Nov 26 2008 18:08:04
it was only 2 days, btw. not weeks. i haven't even been PS for a single week yet. will be 1 week on friday.as for FP, i can do it, just slow as hell. my ring and pinky don't move fast enough. started working out my fingers though, so that should help. i'm just used to picking things up right away. i even learned how to juggle well in only 5 min with three balls. i switched to 2 pencils taped together with a bulge at center and either end, with rubber bands at each end, and the pencil shafts wrapped in three layers of the tape. masking tape, that is. comes to be 35 cm long, and i can use it better than most anything else. made doing tricks a lot easier.
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Date: Thu, Nov 27 2008 11:13:04
I'm just having difficulty making it continious, i.e. doing it over and over. Any suggestions? for some reason it just dies as it finishes and loses momentum and cant make it around again...
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Date: Thu, Nov 27 2008 13:50:12QUOTE (Fire Ant @ Nov 27 2008, 05:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I'm just having difficulty making it continious, i.e. doing it over and over. Any suggestions? for some reason it just dies as it finishes and loses momentum and cant make it around again...
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Date: Wed, Dec 3 2008 13:08:31
Oh yeah thats true, I should do that. I meant between 23-34-23, but yeah works all the same.
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Date: Fri, Dec 12 2008 03:11:14
Fingerpass is so hard to get it really smooth.
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Date: Sun, Dec 14 2008 23:16:00
would fingerpas harmonic be
34-23-12 fingerpass normal (outside)then
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Date: Wed, Dec 17 2008 09:10:49
My fingerpass is laggy..my pen always get to the end..Any idea of improving?
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Date: Wed, Dec 17 2008 10:00:46QUOTE (nhat_PS @ Dec 15 2008, 05:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>would fingerpas harmonic be
34-23-12 fingerpass normal (outside)then
12-23-34 fingerpass reverse (outside)?
Wrong. Between the index and middle fingers:
FingerPass Harmonic: Pass 12-23 > Pass Reverse 23-12
FingerPass Harmonic Reverse: Pass Reverse 12-23 > Pass 23-12
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Date: Wed, Jan 14 2009 21:57:55
Do You think that if I continue to do it slowly and make that really smooth, then gradually get faster would be better than if i started fast and really jerky, and just tried to get smooth from there?
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Date: Thu, Jan 15 2009 03:22:32
It's better to start slow, but smooth... then slowly work up speed.
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Date: Mon, Jan 19 2009 04:27:23
Ok, Ive been spinning for about a month now, and I cant say that I'm top dog, but I am getting to the point where I've been creating new combos, and learning some things that just dont seem to be able to be taught.
But there is one issue where I have the most common problem, and that is the Fingerpass. It seems when the pen (I use a Metal Comssa with HGG tips, and a Bic Flex Grip custom mod made by me) reaches around the Middle and Ring Finger, my thumb comes and blocks its progress, halting the pen from moving forward. and on top of that, the pen also slows down in that area, due to some crazy finger movments my hands tend to make. So anyone else have there tumb get in the way or am i just doing something wrong? Feedback would be lovely cause this is getting on my nerves, and Im like really trying to fix it. -
Date: Fri, Jan 23 2009 05:22:31
I never practice finger passes or attempt to get them faster just because it seems to trivial and i was wondering what some good links would be to practice finger passes with.
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Date: Wed, Jan 28 2009 13:58:15
its my second day doing fingerpass, it just doesnt speed up, whenever i try to, it falls off. How can u make it go so smooth and fast, anyone plz reply?
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Date: Tue, Feb 3 2009 12:57:29
how many fingerpass combos you have to dp in minute to say that you are doing it smooth or you have mastered it? (i can do 40 in minute)
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Date: Wed, Feb 4 2009 17:51:33
man, i think its only 10 times , iam really terrible, any advice?????????????????
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Date: Fri, Feb 6 2009 08:36:11
Question: Is it safe to keep practicing the fingerpass for several hours on the same hand every day? Just wondering since I've been doing that for the entire week...
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Date: Fri, Feb 6 2009 10:35:34
bonkura's tutorial xD
it takes a very long time to get a fast fingerpass, around 2 or 3 months good practice. aim for smoothness first. start with a heavier pen and hold it near the fingertips/fingernails. try to let gravity pull the pen rather than pushing it with your fingers
when you get faster start using lighter pens
remember: practice makes perfect
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Date: Fri, Feb 6 2009 14:48:22
thx very much tht was really helpful!!!!!!!!:D
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Date: Sun, Feb 8 2009 00:52:55
Hey it's my 2nd day spinning, I've been practicing Fingerpass for about a day now but I just can't get a smooth pass
and about 6 out of 10 tries my thumb gets in the way and stops the trick.
I use a regular Pen with a clip without the cap and it's not long nor short just..regular (or maybe I don't have the eye for it)
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Date: Sun, Feb 8 2009 22:38:40
ive been practicing the finger pass for about almost a month now and i would have an extremely smooth and fast finger pass except for the fact that when the pen is going from 34-23 my middle finger is never there quick enough so there is a slight pause and then after that pause it completely messes me up... ive tried slow but smooth and i got that but it never works when i speed it up to the lvl that i feel im on
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Date: Mon, Feb 9 2009 00:43:45QUOTE (khaotic @ Feb 8 2009, 02:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>ive been practicing the finger pass for about almost a month now and i would have an extremely smooth and fast finger pass except for the fact that when the pen is going from 34-23 my middle finger is never there quick enough so there is a slight pause and then after that pause it completely messes me up... ive tried slow but smooth and i got that but it never works when i speed it up to the lvl that i feel im on
just use the method you're using now, do it really slow and as smooth as you can. Keep going at that pace for a few days (so your middle finger will be accustomed to the movement), then gradually speed it up little by little until it's back to your normal speed.
oh and another tip... when doing Fingerpasses try to keep your thumb still and focus on your fingers 1-2-3-4. Doing it correctly and smoothly is more important than doing it quickly. -
Date: Mon, Feb 9 2009 03:27:47QUOTE (Vorch @ Feb 7 2009, 04:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hey it's my 2nd day spinning, I've been practicing Fingerpass for about a day now but I just can't get a smooth pass
and about 6 out of 10 tries my thumb gets in the way and stops the trick.
I use a regular Pen with a clip without the cap and it's not long nor short just..regular (or maybe I don't have the eye for it)
I also have chubby fingers, I wonder if it really matters though.
a day? seriously, its gonna take alot longer than that man.
usually takes months to get good fingerpasses
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Date: Wed, Feb 11 2009 04:40:33
yay! no pause no more.. its kinda choppy but i can fix that soon... thanks for da advice ppls
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Date: Wed, Feb 11 2009 08:13:08
i can almost land a smooth reverse fingerpass
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Date: Wed, Feb 11 2009 08:17:04
i think you're more an exception...5 days is scarily fast
good work -
Date: Wed, Feb 11 2009 18:43:52
it's true
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Date: Thu, Feb 12 2009 02:50:45
the most beautiful trick in PSing imo... if you're good, fast, and smooth, it looks GORGEOUS.
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Date: Thu, Feb 12 2009 05:09:51
When I do fingerpass, I have heaps of trouble bringing up my middle finger fast enough to catch the pen on the turn, so i have to pause and it looks rough.
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Date: Thu, Feb 12 2009 23:23:20
i had that same problem... for me what i did is when yur doing the fingerpass keep the pen as close to the tips as possible (yu'll drop it alot but it really helps) this way when yu pass from 23-34 yu can push yur middle finger up quicker since yu dont have to bend the finger all the was in to get it outa the way and get ready for the next pass... so once yu get yused to it yur pass from 23-34-23 well become alot smoother... well this is how i did it
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Date: Wed, Mar 4 2009 10:43:02QUOTE (Nyuumetsu @ Feb 12 2009, 10:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>When I do fingerpass, I have heaps of trouble bringing up my middle finger fast enough to catch the pen on the turn, so i have to pause and it looks rough.
Does anyone know how I can prevent this, or any exercises that help your middle finger's dex?
Unfortunately only time and practice can heal this. I have the same problem with my pinky (it takes time to send the pen up). Just keep practicing.
To increase finger independence, just play guitar or piano. You can even try bending one finger at a time. -
Date: Wed, Mar 4 2009 11:13:13
Everyone has said this but it is practice a lot of practice,
i did heaps of practice and got it smooth but i took a break from pen spinning for about 2 months and now it is very choppy and unsmooth,
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Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 02:20:14
idk if any1 have this problem but my pen keeps falling off between the ring finger and pink o.O...could be my messe dup fingers though..since when the pen goes to my ring finger...the ring finger gets really stiff and creates a small angle whihc then cuases my pinky to be unable to touch the pen unless the pen is at the middle of my ring finger......so essentially if u look at my pinky and ring finger it creates a V could this be the problem...if thats teh case....then i dont think i can finger pass T.T
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Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 07:58:27QUOTE (silentsaber @ Mar 9 2009, 08:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>idk if any1 have this problem but my pen keeps falling off between the ring finger and pink o.O...could be my messe dup fingers though..since when the pen goes to my ring finger...the ring finger gets really stiff and creates a small angle whihc then cuases my pinky to be unable to touch the pen unless the pen is at the middle of my ring finger......so essentially if u look at my pinky and ring finger it creates a V could this be the problem...if thats teh case....then i dont think i can finger pass T.T
It will happen in the beginning. Just keep practicing and you will be as smooth as Bonkura. -
Date: Tue, Mar 10 2009 03:44:25
I am getting better at this one because I had a problem before, but Since I watched bonkura's short tutorial of fingerpass, it showed that is in the top of the edge of the fingers!!
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Date: Tue, Mar 10 2009 05:32:04
Almost on the fingernails, in fact... I think you can adjust by sliding on your nails a little if your grip becomes off-rhythm.
Some things I found helpful:
1. Keep it light! (You might think it's light but 9 times out of 10 you can end up holding it too tightly)
2. Keep it smooth - almost rolling on your hands, as in the Bonkura tutorial. This is affected by a variety of things such as timing, the overlap method, curling your fingers, etc.
3. Roll the pen all the way down before switching slots. You can judge your timing pretty well by this.
Another thing I noticed: It isn't just about how fast you move the pen - it's about how lightly and quickly you moved your fingers.
(Taken from compiled written notes, as from Day 38)
Hoped that helped.
Edit: Oh, and don't forget to keep the pen centered. ^^ -
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 18:02:24
question about a single pass:
what's the difference between a pass, and around 0.5? Can someone explain please? -
Date: Sat, Mar 28 2009 09:39:58
so fingerpas is a name of a combo that is made up of 4 passes?wow! at first i tot that fingerpass is the outside of the fingers and pass is inside of the fingers...
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Date: Thu, May 28 2009 01:46:56
When I pass the pen from 23 to 34, my pinky either hits the pen too early, or catches it way too late. I'm using the edge of my fingers as well. How can I fix this?
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Date: Thu, Jun 4 2009 06:27:31QUOTE (.s0cial @ May 28 2009, 09:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>When I pass the pen from 23 to 34, my pinky either hits the pen too early, or catches it way too late. I'm using the edge of my fingers as well. How can I fix this?
bend your pinky in more . -
Date: Sat, Jun 6 2009 18:34:49
hey guys just one tip for the fingerpass that WILL help you.... PRACTICE...i know it takes time but the reward is good when you start comboing its loadza fun, so yea practice. i too found the trasition between 34-23 hard...but practice makes perfect ^-^
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Date: Sun, Jun 7 2009 00:07:07
after you can make a fingerpass smooth, how do you make it fast? like really fast. (saying "put the pen near the ends of the fingers" doesn't help me, everyone already knows that)
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Date: Sun, Jun 7 2009 01:01:33
Okay, so I fixed the transition between 23 and 34, but when I try to pass the pen up from 34 to 23, my pink and ring finger can only push it up halfway. It causes a break in the fingerpass motion and makes it look very rough (there's a pause). How can I make the pinky pass it up all the way?
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Date: Sun, Jun 7 2009 08:28:41QUOTE (.s0cial @ Jun 7 2009, 09:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Okay, so I fixed the transition between 23 and 34, but when I try to pass the pen up from 34 to 23, my pink and ring finger can only push it up halfway. It causes a break in the fingerpass motion and makes it look very rough (there's a pause). How can I make the pinky pass it up all the way?
train your pinky by strengthening it. Practice!! -
Date: Fri, Jun 12 2009 00:35:50
Agh it's been a week and I still can't make the pen transition smoothly from 34 to 23.
Maybe it has something to do with the way my ring and pinky are positioned?
Should i keep them straight, or can i bend them? -
Date: Sat, Jun 13 2009 00:54:04QUOTE (.s0cial @ Jun 12 2009, 10:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Agh it's been a week and I still can't make the pen transition smoothly from 34 to 23.
Maybe it has something to do with the way my ring and pinky are positioned?
Should i keep them straight, or can i bend them?
Yeah... I can't either ...Â
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Date: Sat, Jun 13 2009 02:09:05QUOTE (.s0cial @ Jun 11 2009, 08:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Agh it's been a week and I still can't make the pen transition smoothly from 34 to 23.
Maybe it has something to do with the way my ring and pinky are positioned?
Should i keep them straight, or can i bend them?
Don't worry about it, it took me almost a month to get a semi-decent fingerpass lol. For me, as soon as the pen leaves the 23 slot to go to 34, i immediately pull out my middle finger and prepare to catch the pen. -
Date: Sat, Jun 13 2009 08:12:52
When practising, should I focus on smooth-ness more than speed?
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Date: Sat, Jun 13 2009 13:55:41QUOTE (BL4CKCR4Y0NS @ Jun 13 2009, 04:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>When practising, should I focus on smooth-ness more than speed?
Yes! Smoothness should always come before speed! If you practice speed more, your individual passes may be fast, but overall, it won't be fluid. -
Date: Sat, Jun 13 2009 21:29:16
remember that this will take a LOT of practice. months of it. learning the fundamentals will require much more patience than learning more advanced tricks. however, the fundamentals are… well… fundamental to learning advanced tricks.
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Date: Sun, Jun 14 2009 15:09:17
Oh, it takes that much time? I thought it takes a week or something.
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Date: Sun, Jun 14 2009 19:06:57QUOTE (.s0cial @ Jun 14 2009, 11:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Oh, it takes that much time? I thought it takes a week or something.
I still can't do sonic and charge rev and I've been spinning pens for a year xD -
Date: Mon, Jun 15 2009 18:12:16QUOTE (Loanshark @ Jun 14 2009, 03:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I still can't do sonic and charge rev and I've been spinning pens for a year xD
that's a bit extreme... still, you have the effort to keep trying. keep up the good work? -
Date: Mon, Jun 15 2009 21:17:46
My fingerpass is pretty smooth but I'm working on speed mostly. Is the only advice pretty much "just move your fingers faster" or is there a certain technique to increasing speed?
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Date: Tue, Jun 16 2009 00:19:21QUOTE (Xantu @ Jun 15 2009, 05:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>My fingerpass is pretty smooth but I'm working on speed mostly. Is the only advice pretty much "just move your fingers faster" or is there a certain technique to increasing speed?
Yea, its pretty much that you have to move your fingers faster. However, for me, thats not it. If you increase your speed, your smoothness will have to increase to match up with the speed, so its not going to be as easy as it sounds. -
Date: Wed, Jun 17 2009 03:17:08
After doing a complete fingerpass my ring finger is on the wrong side of the pen so I can't get it down fast enough to keep the speed and makes it more rough. The problem is similar to 34-23. Also, sometimes my hands are sweaty and sticky so my pen so if my finger is not fully out of the way it stops considerably.
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Date: Thu, Jun 18 2009 15:09:02
it sounds like you're going for speed before smoothness. slow things down. try to learn how to do it without a pen's momentum. (use a lighter pen or a pencil) that way, you get the finger movements down first. SMOOTHNESS BEFORE SPEED. everything takes time, that's all.
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Date: Thu, Jun 18 2009 15:12:33
Man finger passes are so hard i can do a fast and smooth reverse finger pass but when i do a normal one i have to do it at a slow pace to keep it smooth. But practice makes perfect i guess
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Date: Fri, Jun 19 2009 15:53:19
Learn Fingerpasses,They rock,They are the key to the future Idealistic Combos,combined with various forms of Sonics,they look nicer than Busts,Baks,Arounds.
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Date: Sun, Jun 21 2009 07:13:20
Well i started a few days ago i just [pretty much] mastered the TA and i could easily and quickly pass my pen from between my thumb and index to between my index and ring to my ring and middle without any effort on my first try. was kinda surprising.
I just cant catch it between my pinky and ring. At least not at a reasonable pace or without using my thumb. I had a hand-eye coordination problem when i was younger but that probably isnt the problem. my pinky just needs work. Whats the best way to work my pinky? It never moves without my ring finger [not very far anyway]
Just postin.
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Date: Wed, Oct 21 2009 12:04:31
i always have problems with the pass from 34 to 23
but my other passes are ok fluent but slow
I HATE MY STUPID PINKY!!! -
Date: Wed, Oct 21 2009 19:30:16
My Fingerpass is like 64 a minute, and it's perfectly smooth...
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Date: Thu, Oct 22 2009 19:47:21
Fingerpass is one trick that I wish I was good at, but don't have the patience to practice.
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Date: Wed, Nov 18 2009 05:29:42QUOTE (clay @ Oct 22 2009, 02:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Fingerpass is one trick that I wish I was good at, but don't have the patience to practice.
My problem exactly. It seems like such a lame trick, it's barely worth practicing (but obviously it is). -
Date: Tue, Jan 5 2010 01:52:21
Ohkay guys, I've got a question.
I did the fingerpass WAY before I knew about penspinning, but I never did it quite... Normally.
My fingers are always extended when i do the passes, i just kinda move them out of the way of the pen, while i kinda move the pen out of the way of my fingers, if that makes sense.
I was just wondering if this is going to mess me up later on? Like when attempting combos? Or does it really matter? -
Date: Tue, Jan 5 2010 02:07:39QUOTE (GreymanofHershal @ Jan 4 2010, 08:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Ohkay guys, I've got a question.
I did the fingerpass WAY before I knew about penspinning, but I never did it quite... Normally.
My fingers are always extended when i do the passes, i just kinda move them out of the way of the pen, while i kinda move the pen out of the way of my fingers, if that makes sense.
I was just wondering if this is going to mess me up later on? Like when attempting combos? Or does it really matter?
well, no, it doesn't really make that much sense...O.o
the pen should rotate around the fingers. is it doing that? If yes, you're on the right track. If no, well....... And everyone has their own style. It shouldn't bother you too much -
Date: Tue, Jan 5 2010 02:25:56QUOTE (CDN-izedAZN @ Jan 4 2010, 08:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>well, no, it doesn't really make that much sense...O.o
the pen should rotate around the fingers. is it doing that? If yes, you're on the right track. If no, well....... And everyone has their own style. It shouldn't bother you too much
Yeah, it does that. I can actually do it pretty quickly and smooth(ly?) too.
I was just wondering if it made a difference.
Okay, its like... Instead of folding my fingers when im not making the pen pass through them, i just move them back and out of the pens way. But because of that the pen travels kinda sideways. Any clearer?
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Date: Tue, Jan 5 2010 05:11:22
i can finger pass but i can 34-23 not very smooth... why??
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Date: Tue, Jan 5 2010 23:20:26QUOTE (MR.STAR @ Jan 5 2010, 12:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i can finger pass but i can 34-23 not very smooth... why??
I don't know why but if you just practice it'll get smoother. The practice gets the fingers to know the movements and it will increase finger strength therefore making it smoother. -
Date: Wed, Jan 6 2010 20:51:07
Woot Got 9 in 6 seconds and 76 in a minute >:D
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Date: Thu, Jan 7 2010 01:52:08QUOTE (Nation @ Jan 6 2010, 03:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Woot Got 9 in 6 seconds and 76 in a minute >:D
hmm video? -
Date: Sun, Jan 10 2010 03:23:59
when i fingerpass my ring finger gets stuck on 23>12... also on 34 my pinky doesn't hold the pen very well...
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Date: Thu, Jan 21 2010 00:31:31QUOTE (Teh_Ma§ta @ Jan 9 2010, 10:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>when i fingerpass my ring finger gets stuck on 23>12... also on 34 my pinky doesn't hold the pen very well...
Any tips?
practice i guess... i've been doing this subconsciously (before i knew about PS, and i've been doing this since ive been in 4th grade [soph in HS now], th only trick i actually do decent without messing up every few times). just practice getting it from finger to finger and do it slowly at first. also, you might want to stretch your fingers a bit. Theres a vid on youtube from HandsMaster about finger stretching that might help. -
Date: Thu, Mar 4 2010 06:07:07
Does Rev fingerpass 13-24 exist? I saw it in a breakdown and couldn't seem to get it.
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Date: Sat, Mar 6 2010 04:52:00
Fingerpass is soooo tough for a Fundamental
. I cant seem to get my fingers to bend the ways they should and do it smoothly. I can do it, just not fast or smooth lol. -
Date: Mon, Mar 8 2010 21:10:10QUOTE (Wind @ Jan 6 2010, 07:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>hmm video?
maybe If I get a work ethic and the ability to spin on film.
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Date: Wed, Mar 10 2010 20:12:32QUOTE (KosPak @ Mar 4 2010, 01:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Does Rev fingerpass 13-24 exist? I saw it in a breakdown and couldn't seem to get it.
where is the video you got it from? -
Date: Thu, Mar 11 2010 00:47:32
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZScMenRd3I (First Spinner)
I googled for the breakdown but that person could have made a mistake -
Date: Fri, Mar 12 2010 03:50:48
I just recently started PS and spent a little time reading up and the entire forum has been extremely helpful, but the fingerpass still gets me stuck. I used to kinda spin pencils while working, not seriously, and i managed to do a few of my own random tricks. b4 even reading bout PS i figured out a little fingerpass pattern on my own and its almost like normal, except instead of going from 34 > 23 > 12, i completely skip the 23 slot and go straight from 34 > 12. I want to try the full pass because it looks cooler, but for some reason, whenever i try it, my middle finger cant reach around the pen to slide it into slot 23, any help please? sorry for being pretty convoluted ...
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Date: Thu, Mar 18 2010 20:11:38QUOTE (Json The Shoe @ Mar 11 2010, 11:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I want to try the full pass because it looks cooler, but for some reason, whenever i try it, my middle finger cant reach around the pen to slide it into slot 23, any help please? sorry for being pretty convoluted ...
Yeah, the pass from the 34 to 23 slot is the hardest pass. You could try some finger flexibility exercises, but the only real way is to just keep practicing that pass over and over again until you can get it smoothly. Most people take a week or two to get it, but it personally took me over a month and a half to get my finger pass smooth at a slow speed. Just keep at it. -
Date: Thu, Mar 18 2010 20:19:02
Just another question, i started spinning by myself to relieve boredom and i "created" my own finger pass (not really...) that is normal except i spin it sideways instead of right side up...? well, in the tutorials and in utube vids, u can tell that the pen is sorta perpendicular to the person's fingers, but i spun the pen so that it passed through my fingers kinda parallel to them, is that fine?
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Date: Sun, Mar 21 2010 13:45:01QUOTE (Json The Shoe @ Mar 18 2010, 04:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Just another question, i started spinning by myself to relieve boredom and i "created" my own finger pass (not really...) that is normal except i spin it sideways instead of right side up...? well, in the tutorials and in utube vids, u can tell that the pen is sorta perpendicular to the person's fingers, but i spun the pen so that it passed through my fingers kinda parallel to them, is that fine?
As long as it goes through the fingers, should be fine. And anyway, if anybody gave you any crap for it, it shouldnt be hard to switch it to how most people do it.
As for the skipping 23 slot on the way back up, I used to do that too, before I really knew what pen spinning was (I had seen House do it on the show). When I found out that you werent supposed to skip it, I just started doing it. It was as smooth as the others within a week. -
Date: Mon, Mar 22 2010 20:44:06
neosonics helped me with fingerpasses
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Date: Tue, Mar 23 2010 01:38:13QUOTE (KosPak @ Mar 4 2010, 02:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Does Rev fingerpass 13-24 exist? I saw it in a breakdown and couldn't seem to get it.
it dus exist im pretty sure
isnt it just a normal pass but with those fingers
it seems like more of a rly tripy rev sonic thou eheh -
Date: Tue, Mar 23 2010 16:30:46QUOTE (exclusive @ Mar 22 2010, 03:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>neosonics helped me with fingerpasses
what other tricks help?
personally i think the rev charge helps with the fingerpass, makes it smoother, but then again, i cant do a rev finger pass so... -
Date: Wed, Mar 24 2010 18:09:55
I have been working on this trick for a bit now and it is still really sloppy and not smooth at all. Is there any tips on where my fingers should be when they are not passing? They always seem to get in the way of the fingers that are actually passing.
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Date: Thu, Mar 25 2010 21:59:42
Is it normal for my hand to be moving my hand a lot while doing a fingerpass? My hand seems to be moving in quite a few directions even though I'm only spinning 1 time per second...
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Date: Fri, Mar 26 2010 00:42:50
how the hell do u fp in a way that ur pen and ur fingers are parrallel? || this demonstrates what parrallel is. as you can see they arent touching eachother. how can u fp without touching your pen?
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Date: Tue, Mar 30 2010 05:14:52QUOTE (VendettaBF @ Mar 25 2010, 07:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>how the hell do u fp in a way that ur pen and ur fingers are parrallel? || this demonstrates what parrallel is. as you can see they arent touching eachother. how can u fp without touching your pen?
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Date: Thu, Apr 22 2010 16:50:54
Well, I have been practising FS for the past 2 weeks and I have a problem with it.
While it is still considered smooth, when I do it for about 15 rounds, the pen will start shifting to one of its end, and then the pen will lose balance and fall off.
Hmm, how do you prevent this?
I suspect maybe one of my passes was too exaggerated or something. Do the fingers in contact with the pen always be in the COG, or they are supposed to be not on the COG?
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Date: Thu, Apr 22 2010 17:17:15QUOTE (hanyang @ Apr 22 2010, 11:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Well, I have been practising FS for the past 2 weeks and I have a problem with it.
While it is still considered smooth, when I do it for about 15 rounds, the pen will start shifting to one of its end, and then the pen will lose balance and fall off.
Hmm, how do you prevent this?
I suspect maybe one of my passes was too exaggerated or something. Do the fingers in contact with the pen always be in the COG, or they are supposed to be not on the COG?
Thanks a lot in advance!
i think the COP should be palmside and in any case, ur never gonna have to do a FP for that long...ever. especially when u start doing combos, as long as u can do it through all fingers and reverse smoothly once or twice u should move on... -
Date: Thu, Apr 22 2010 22:53:51
I've been spinning for 6 months and kinda been ignoring dis move cause i couldnt curl my ring finger fast enuf
. any tips/
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Date: Fri, Apr 23 2010 02:33:43QUOTE (RdHg @ Apr 22 2010, 05:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I've been spinning for 6 months and kinda been ignoring dis move cause i couldnt curl my ring finger fast enuf . any tips/
btw is it sad dat i cant do FP but can pull off a double TA?
Well most people usually dont use Fingerpass/pass in their combos... thats why twisted sonic/inverse sonic/a lot of different tricks help you pass the pen around as you wish. double TA is a challenging trick in a way but if you can do a twisted sonic double bust, essentially a double TA would be easier -
Date: Sat, Apr 24 2010 17:09:31
Haha, okay thanks. The reason why I wanted to keep fingerpassing for more than I need to learn is just to pass time during boring lessons or thinking about difficult question :X like in the past we do TAs, that kind of thing haha.
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Date: Mon, May 17 2010 07:05:18
someone anyone help me ?i cant really do the fingerpass my fingers go up instead of down and i can do it pretty smoothly its just hard to go down any tips?
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Date: Wed, May 19 2010 00:40:23
Any tips on how to keep fingers always at COP? Everytime I try to do FP, after sometime, one end of the pen starts going toward my fingers and cuts my FP short.
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Date: Wed, May 19 2010 16:40:34QUOTE (chrisPS @ May 19 2010, 08:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Any tips on how to keep fingers always at COP? Everytime I try to do FP, after sometime, one end of the pen starts going toward my fingers and cuts my FP short.
What I do is I try to execute it as fast as possible. It reduces the chances for me to lose control of the pen. -
Date: Thu, Jun 10 2010 20:06:30
Is ma fingerpass any good?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x8LuPzHzH4 -
Date: Thu, Jun 10 2010 22:48:21QUOTE (8xDannyx8 @ Jun 10 2010, 01:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Is ma fingerpass any good?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x8LuPzHzH4
that's not bad. u got the smoothness, but u could use some speed. its better than my finger pass . yeah im trying to get mine smoother. i always slow down when passing from pinky to ring.
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Date: Wed, Jun 16 2010 23:11:31
i can do the fingerpass qithout a doubt just not the really advance fingerpasses
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Date: Thu, Jun 17 2010 00:06:45QUOTE (8xDannyx8 @ Jun 10 2010, 04:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Is ma fingerpass any good?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x8LuPzHzH4
You should try to hold the pen closer to the tip of your fingers. It takes some skill to hold onto the pen when it's at the very tip, but once you get the hang of it it's a lot easier to go fast.