UPSB v3
Research Department Feedback / Handedness Modifier article released
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Date: Mon, Dec 7 2009 17:44:58
The Research Department has just released an article on the wiki. You can view the article here: Handedness Modifier. The article suggests the use of a modifier to notate fingers on the off-hand; which is part of a modifier system project.
Use this thread to discuss the article. -
Date: Mon, Dec 7 2009 17:58:28
Does this mean that a whole combo done with the non dominant hand will have the ' at every trick?
I think the bracket system is alot more convenient. Great job for the RD.
I think it really helps now that you don't have to say things like twisted sonic on left hand or shadow on non-dominant hand etc.. -
Date: Mon, Dec 7 2009 19:36:42QUOTE (Glamouraz @ Dec 7 2009, 12:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Does this mean that a whole combo done with the non dominant hand will have the ' at every trick?
if your whole combo is 1h, theres no point in using off-hand notation.
if large sections of your combo are off-hand and others dominant, use the bracket system describe in the article. -
Date: Tue, Dec 8 2009 23:42:51
definitely go with the bracket system.
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Date: Wed, Dec 9 2009 00:07:13QUOTE (Tushix @ Dec 8 2009, 06:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>definitely go with the bracket system.
its not a question of going one over the other, you use can EITHER one whenever appropriate.
if you just need to notate a few off hand fingers or if your combo is very complex and uses both hands all the time, then you should probably use modifier because Sonic 3[']4 - 3[/']2 is not as good as Sonic 34' - 3'2
if your combo is partitioned into long sequences on a single hand, then use the brackets. writing Sonic 3'4'-2'3' is not as good as [']Sonic 34-23[/'] -
Date: Thu, Dec 10 2009 03:22:46
What do you do for instances where the handedness of the spinner isn't known or explicit?
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Date: Thu, Dec 10 2009 03:35:15QUOTE (AwonW @ Dec 9 2009, 10:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>What do you do for instances where the handedness of the spinner isn't known or explicit?
you pick one hand and say its the dominant hand, it doesn't matter at this point it's just to differentiate both hands. -
Date: Sat, Dec 12 2009 12:40:53
I would still use a different colour while on the forums to notate the other hand (for example, right hand is black, left hand is blue), but use these too. That way, it's easily distinguishable on the board.
Handedness modifier is definately important though. You can't always just colour things and sometimes colours are hard to see etc. Good job guys! -
Date: Sat, Dec 12 2009 13:48:41QUOTE (Mats @ Dec 12 2009, 07:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I would still use a different colour while on the forums to notate the other hand (for example, right hand is black, left hand is blue), but use these too. That way, it's easily distinguishable on the board.
Handedness modifier is definately important though. You can't always just colour things and sometimes colours are hard to see etc. Good job guys!
here's the cool thing:
the bracket system ['][/'] is the same as bbcode. If you add it as bbcode in your board, then it automatically formats your combo!! -
Date: Sat, Dec 12 2009 19:25:17
test
sonic 34-12 > pass rev. 12-t1 > ta t1-t1 > ['] fingerless shadow rev 12-34 > pinkybak 34-34 [/']
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Date: Sat, Dec 12 2009 19:32:31QUOTE (hoiboy @ Dec 12 2009, 02:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>test
sonic 34-12 > pass rev. 12-t1 > ta t1-t1 > ['] fingerless shadow rev 12-34 > pinkybak 34-34 [/']
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He hasn't added it as bbcode yet lol -
Date: Sun, Dec 13 2009 14:27:17QUOTE (Zombo @ Dec 12 2009, 01:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>here's the cool thing:
the bracket system ['][/'] is the same as bbcode. If you add it as bbcode in your board, then it automatically formats your combo!!
Sweet. Some really good changes to the board recently and it seems a couple more to come! Thanks to Zombo and the other staff! -
Date: Sun, Dec 13 2009 20:13:18
It would be better for the notation if you add a notation of the relative position of both hands:
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/3751/notation.pdf
Because a pass or an around can be done in plenty of way from a hand to the other. I already made a request for such a notation, on february 2009...
EDIT: I made a video one year ago, it's not exactly the notation that i've write in the table but anyway (french subtitled in english...):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FjvBVrIw1g
In fact, both hand can be parallel, or perpendicular.
If they are parallel, they can be side to side (//), or in opposition (><).
If they are perpendicular, the left hand can be perpendicular to the right hand (-|) or the right hand can be perpendicular to the left hand (|-). (I have no example of tricks for this notation but they can be invented...)
However, the hands side to side or in opposition is very useful: I develope it in my vid.
Then, the hand can be in palm up, in palm side, in palm down, or in "back side", when you make another rotation of 90° of your palm. -
Date: Sun, Dec 13 2009 20:15:01QUOTE (KIRGO @ Dec 13 2009, 03:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>It would be better for the notation if you add a notation of the relative position of both hands:
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/3751/notation.pdf
Because a pass or an around can be done in plenty of way from a hand to the other. I already made a request for such a notation, on february 2009...
we know about this system, our modifier system is orthogonal to the hand notation system. -
Date: Sun, Dec 13 2009 20:38:40QUOTE (Zombo @ Dec 13 2009, 03:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>we know about this system, our modifier system is orthogonal to the hand notation system.
Both notation must be combined yes.
The system of brackets you made is really cool, very useful =) and user-friendly too. Well, see you in a year for the notation of the hands! -
Date: Mon, Dec 14 2009 07:53:35
LOL i still need to write the freakin informal article