UPSB v3
Advanced Tricks / Double Charge
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Date: Sun, Mar 16 2008 03:37:12
I think i'm doing it wrong. From what I hear it's just charge - finger pass - finger pass??? And then you can continue it. Well... Twisted Sonic to a finger pass. Is that realy all it is?
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Date: Sun, Mar 16 2008 03:39:28
ya...it's just a twisted sonic then a pass....it's that simple
by the way.....there's a thread about this....
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Date: Sun, Mar 16 2008 03:42:17
well thats kinda silly...
Sry for thread, I could only find double charge reverse. Delete if theres already a double charge. -
Date: Sun, Mar 16 2008 03:49:27
first off, fingerpass is a combo consisting of passes going through all of the fingers. instead of fingerpass, you are talking about "pass"
and double charge is twisted sonic 23-12 > pass 12-23. that simple -
Date: Mon, Mar 17 2008 02:35:30
@Lamoc:
Double Charge @ the wiki
@ArchAngel2: there's a thread on Double Charge Reverse, but not Normal.
@TeddyTemptation: that's the basic Double Charge, but the combo can be done from other finger slots as well. -
Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 03:11:23
I having trouble with double charge starting from 34. My middle finger is too long xD Its okay, after while i'll get it
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Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 20:22:58
but instead of google imagine you have something saying USE THE YOUTUBE
we do need one of those
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJHT2NYnarQ -
Date: Thu, Mar 27 2008 20:36:47
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Date: Fri, Apr 4 2008 20:07:28
WHY DO TWISTED SONICS 34-23 HAVE TO HURT SO MUCH!!!!! I need more flexible fingers.
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Date: Fri, Apr 4 2008 21:49:41
Probably because you have not used your pinky and ring fingers very often.
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Date: Sat, Apr 5 2008 03:20:13
Or the middle finger is too long. I find that the only hard bit doing double charge 34-23-34. It's hard to actually catch it and do the pass rev so i have to start with my middle finger a little bit more forwarded to catch it and pass it back down.
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Date: Mon, Sep 1 2008 14:14:03
Is a double charge done like tw sonic 23-12 ---> tw sonic 23-12 ans so on... except for to get the pen down you pass it? Or is it like you do the tw sonic and thn bring it down do a charge then do the tw sonic again?? Can a double charge be done continously for however long we want??
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Date: Mon, Sep 1 2008 14:20:10
The breakdown of Doublecharge is:
Twisted sonic 23 -12 -> pass 12-23 -> repeat
(Of course it dosen't have to be in 23 but it's for the example...) -
Date: Mon, Sep 1 2008 23:43:14
THe double charge is a really simple and stupid trick IMHO
its jsut a twisted sonic and passing it back to your other finger....
how original.... -
Date: Tue, Sep 2 2008 01:09:10
Double Charge is a combo. Twisted Sonic (hybrid) > Pass Normal (trick)
...no one here said it was original. :/ -
Date: Fri, Mar 20 2009 00:58:02
I need help with the double charge too. After the pass 12-23, when I extend all my fingers to give the pen the momentum to do another twisted sonic, the center of balance always shifts away (toward the tip). After 2 double charges, it makes the charge in the twisted sonic go up and down and not circular like its supposed to. Can someone offer me tips on improving that?
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Date: Fri, Mar 20 2009 01:07:11QUOTE (NuklearSpartan @ Mar 19 2009, 08:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I need help with the double charge too. After the pass 12-23, when I extend all my fingers to give the pen the momentum to do another twisted sonic, the center of balance always shifts away (toward the tip). After 2 double charges, it makes the charge in the twisted sonic go up and down and not circular like its supposed to. Can someone offer me tips on improving that?
Try to start the twisted sonic part of the double charge away from the tip more towards the cap, assuming you are a right handed and you are holding the pen with tip on your right and cap on your left.
This way you start a bit left of COG at 23 slot, then after the twisted sonic, the pen will land a bit towards the right of COG in 12 slot.
Then when you pass 12-23, the pen is a bit left of COG, where you started so you can repeat.
And practice is the key that ties it all together. -
Date: Sat, Mar 21 2009 10:46:25
when u do twisted sonic on 34-23, try flipping the pen up after the 75% charge revolution if you cant use ur middle finger to catch it smoothly. That's just an alternative anyway.
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Date: Sat, Mar 21 2009 13:12:45
coowl i can do it now xD but i looks rly crappy
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Date: Sat, Mar 21 2009 14:49:36
before I could get a good rotational momentum after the pass 12-23, I would do a quick charge to get the momentum back up again. This helped me learn double charge, and I hope it helps you!
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Date: Mon, Mar 23 2009 08:08:37
yea.tw sonic pass to 23 then tw sonic again.
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Date: Sun, Dec 27 2009 03:41:10
Hey guys, I need some help again
, this time with the double charge.
I understand the concepts and execution of the trick, I just can't get it clean...I only get it cleanly once in a while. On other occasions, I get a twisted sonic, and then what looks like to be two horizontal passes...
So, what am I doing wrong? How can I fix it?
Thanks,
Ricercar -
Date: Sun, Dec 27 2009 04:33:21
define clean
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Date: Sun, Dec 27 2009 04:34:52QUOTE (Ricercar @ Dec 26 2009, 09:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hey guys, I need some help again , this time with the double charge.
I understand the concepts and execution of the trick, I just can't get it clean...I only get it cleanly once in a while. On other occasions, I get a twisted sonic, and then what looks like to be two horizontal passes...
So, what am I doing wrong? How can I fix it?
Thanks,
Ricercar
The breakdown is Twisted sonic 23-12 [s] 1.5 > Pass reverse 12-23 [s] 0.5, I hope that that helps, If that's what you're doing then you have it right. If that's what you're doing, Then just practice that, Might take some time, but that's what I did, and that's what helped me and my friends...
PM me if you still have more trouble. -
Date: Sun, Dec 27 2009 04:39:23QUOTEdefine clean
A charge-like motion instead of what looks to be a horizontal pass.QUOTEThe breakdown is Twisted sonic 23-12 [s] 1.5 > Pass reverse 12-23 [s] 0.5, I hope that that helps, If that's what you're doing then you have it right. If that's what you're doing, Then just practice that, Might take some time, but that's what I did, and that's what helped me and my friends...
PM me if you still have more trouble.
That IS what I'm doing, but it's not clean yet. I suppose I'll just have to practice.
Thanks for the help! -
Date: Sun, Dec 27 2009 10:56:13
Is the part you're having trouble on the part where you pass from 1-2, to 2-3, then charge? If the charge part, watch Eso's tutorial. Fingers 2-3 have to be bent and then quickly lifted up. that will make the charge motion. Is that the part you're having trouble on?
P.S. this might not make sense, because I don't even think i understant it either. -
Date: Sun, Dec 27 2009 11:12:06QUOTE (Nation @ Dec 27 2009, 05:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The breakdown is Twisted sonic 23-12 [s] 1.5 > Pass reverse 12-23 [s] 0.5, I hope that that helps, If that's what you're doing then you have it right. If that's what you're doing, Then just practice that, Might take some time, but that's what I did, and that's what helped me and my friends...
PM me if you still have more trouble.
Im pretty sure it's a Pass Normal after the Twisted Sonic instead of a Pass Reverse.
If you have trouble in the Pass Reverse (the one from 23 -> 12) in the Twisted Sonic hybrid, you probably need to practice more on the Twisted Sonic. If it's horizontal after the twisted sonic, you need to try to take the momentum from the Twisted Sonic's circular motion and use that to continue into the Pass Normal. -
Date: Sun, Dec 27 2009 14:39:29QUOTEIs the part you're having trouble on the part where you pass from 1-2, to 2-3, then charge? If the charge part, watch Eso's tutorial. Fingers 2-3 have to be bent and then quickly lifted up. that will make the charge motion. Is that the part you're having trouble on?
No, I'm having trouble on this:
Twisted Sonic 23-12 -> Pass Normal 12-23 -> Twisted Sonic 23-12. The Twisted Sonic doesn't look like a Twisted Sonic due to the lack of momentum.QUOTEIf you have trouble in the Pass Reverse (the one from 23 -> 12) in the Twisted Sonic hybrid, you probably need to practice more on the Twisted Sonic. If it's horizontal after the twisted sonic, you need to try to take the momentum from the Twisted Sonic's circular motion and use that to continue into the Pass Normal.
The Problem is not that I can't do a twisted sonic period, but that I can't get it consistently or cleanly after the pass normal. Not the Twisted sonic hybrid. There is some sort of stop in the pass normal from 12 to 23, and due to it, I can't take the momentum from the previous twisted sonic to make the motion circular, and "charge-like."
NO FLAMING INTENDED -
Date: Sun, Dec 27 2009 14:50:14QUOTE (Ricercar @ Dec 27 2009, 08:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>No, I'm having trouble on this:
Twisted Sonic 23-12 -> Pass Normal 12-23 -> Twisted Sonic 23-12. The Twisted Sonic doesn't look like a Twisted Sonic due to the lack of momentum.
The Problem is not that I can't do a twisted sonic period, but that I can't get it consistently or cleanly after the pass normal. Not the Twisted sonic hybrid. There is some sort of stop in the pass normal from 12 to 23, and due to it, I can't take the momentum from the previous twisted sonic to make the motion circular, and "charge-like."
NO FLAMING INTENDED
A correction: I made a mistake: Twisted sonic 23-12 [s] 1.5 > Pass Normal 12-23 [s] 0.5
IF YOU ARE DOING THIS CORRECTLY, IT SHOULD GO INSIDE YOUR FINGERS, GOING FROM 12-23, ON THE INSIDE.
Sorry for caps, but that is very important, if it's going on the outside, (what I did) then you are doing it incorrectly. -
Date: Sun, Dec 27 2009 17:28:37
I just checked, and the pen is going inside my fingers. So all that's left to do is practice.
Thanks for all the help guys. -
Date: Sun, Dec 27 2009 19:59:54
Ye, i dont think theres no trick to getting it right, just practice. You could pratice the charge 12, may help
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Date: Wed, Dec 30 2009 02:05:02
If you're still having problems heres something I think may help. The pass down to 2-3 should be kind of like the last 1/3 of a charge in the 1-2 slot. SO if you are having trouble getting that pass down smooth try practicing charge 1-2 to pass 23 =]
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Date: Wed, Dec 30 2009 07:43:49QUOTE (Ricercar @ Dec 27 2009, 06:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>No, I'm having trouble on this:
Twisted Sonic 23-12 -> Pass Normal 12-23 -> Twisted Sonic 23-12. The Twisted Sonic doesn't look like a Twisted Sonic due to the lack of momentum.
The Problem is not that I can't do a twisted sonic period, but that I can't get it consistently or cleanly after the pass normal. Not the Twisted sonic hybrid. There is some sort of stop in the pass normal from 12 to 23, and due to it, I can't take the momentum from the previous twisted sonic to make the motion circular, and "charge-like."
NO FLAMING INTENDED
Yes, that's the part I'm talking about. You have to have your fingers bent before doing the 2nd twisted sonic- or even before the pass. When 12 are passing to 23, 3 should be bent during 12's pass to 3. Then you have to lift up 23, which makes a charge motion for the twisted sonic. If you watch Eso's tutorial, he tells you about this part. -
Date: Wed, Dec 30 2009 22:49:57
I've been practicing it lately and i get it pretty cleanly now.
I'm going to be in the New Year's collab, and there's a double charge in my combo. XD -
Date: Sun, Jan 17 2010 18:24:05
Just to anybody else who might be having trouble, I find it helps just to think of it as two interrupted charges rather than a charge and a pass. Also I find it helps a lot having the pen as close to the fingertips as possible, when it starts slipping down it gets harder for me.