UPSB v3
General Discussion / Buster CYL for beginners
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Date: Sat, Jan 16 2010 02:34:40
Would it be a good idea for me to get a Buster CYL even though I have only been pen spinning for a month and a half?
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Date: Sat, Jan 16 2010 02:39:13
No.
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Date: Sat, Jan 16 2010 02:40:15QUOTE (AwonW @ Jan 15 2010, 10:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>No.
Why? -
Date: Sat, Jan 16 2010 02:41:13
because its fucking heavy and u will be reliant on it to do ur tricks which is baad for beginners because u cannot spin realistic pens.
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Date: Sat, Jan 16 2010 02:45:00
Starting with a Buster CYL is bad for beginners. If you need a BCYL to master basic tricks, then god knows what you'll need to master a [insert peem level trick here].
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Date: Sat, Jan 16 2010 02:45:21
Buster CYL is too heavy for someone of your experience.
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Date: Sat, Jan 16 2010 02:48:04
list of pens for beginners:
1. pencil
2. unmodded anything
3. bictory
4. rsvp v1
5. rsvp mx
6. ballsign, if you really want to
7. comssa (+tips if you want a tad heavier pen)
8. other pens
some big number. g3 tip stack mods
some big number +1. dr kt
some big number +lots. everything else in the physical world
some really big number. invisible pen
some really big number +1. buster cyl
as springfield says, its really heavy, and you can't spin regular (realistically weighted) pens -
Date: Sat, Jan 16 2010 02:49:03QUOTE (hoiboy @ Jan 16 2010, 10:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Starting with a Buster CYL is bad for beginners. If you need a BCYL to master basic tricks, then god knows what you'll need to master a [insert peem level trick here].
maybe he has mastered the basic tricks already =X
and he wants to learn more advanced tricks (MAYBE)
and needs a buster cyl =X
idk
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Date: Sat, Jan 16 2010 02:53:04
fyi, i have never touched a KT until 8 months, what makes u get a buster for 1.5 months?i used metal comssa for an effing long time
@zuolin, dont assume -
Date: Sat, Jan 16 2010 02:53:17
i would say get one, i did when i was a n00b and i don't like it b/c of the weight but it helped get the idea of like say a constant spinning long ass thumbaround or whatever its called.
buy it! -
Date: Sat, Jan 16 2010 02:54:28QUOTE (zuolin @ Jan 16 2010, 10:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>maybe he has mastered the basic tricks already =X
and he wants to learn more advanced tricks (MAYBE)
and needs a buster cyl =X
idk
no one NEEDS a buster
you can do haituas, bakfalls, multiple busts, and every other power move with, say, a signo tipped comssa
everyone (nearly) WANTS a buster because
you can do haituas, bakfalls, multiple busts, and every other power move more easily than, say, a signo tipped comssa
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Date: Sat, Jan 16 2010 03:00:10
I know the basics already and i just thought it could help me learn some of the more advanced tricks.
Right now im using a metal comssa and an rsvp mx. -
Date: Sat, Jan 16 2010 03:01:30QUOTE (k-ryder @ Jan 15 2010, 09:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>no one NEEDS a buster
you can do haituas, bakfalls, multiple busts, and every other power move with, say, a signo tipped comssa
everyone (nearly) WANTS a buster because
you can do haituas, bakfalls, multiple busts, and every other power move more easily than, say, a signo tipped comssa
Well said..
use a buster but replace airfit tips with signo tips -
Date: Sat, Jan 16 2010 03:18:17
Just stick with your MX or Comssa
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Date: Sat, Jan 16 2010 03:21:36
giving a noob a buster is like giving a 14 year old girl a black dick to the ass. they aren't ready yet xD.
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Date: Sat, Jan 16 2010 03:22:57
I personally don't see anything WRONG with it besides you not learning how to spin very well
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It's really up to you and I really wish I had a decent mod in the first few years of my spinning because I would have improved a lot faster
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Date: Sat, Jan 16 2010 03:51:14
lol who wants a buster cyl
just stick with metal comssa and mx. i'd say when you start thinking about developing your own style you can switch to buster. -
Date: Mon, Jan 18 2010 02:06:36QUOTE (VendettaBF @ Jan 15 2010, 09:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>giving a noob a buster is like giving a 14 year old girl a black dick to the ass. they aren't ready yet xD.
lol
I used Buster for awhile, But I didn't have a UPSB account, and I had no idea how heavy it was until I got it, and I just used it because It was like the only thing I had. I can still spin light mods fine though. -
Date: Mon, Jan 18 2010 02:55:11QUOTE (Nation @ Jan 17 2010, 09:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>lol
I used Buster for awhile, But I didn't have a UPSB account, and I had no idea how heavy it was until I got it, and I just used it because It was like the only thing I had. I can still spin light mods fine though.
same here, i got a buster cyl before i knew any better... but i still can spin double capped commsas easy -
Date: Mon, Jan 18 2010 04:23:03
if your hands are fucking huge it's an alternative.
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Date: Mon, Jan 18 2010 10:01:46QUOTE (Santa @ Jan 17 2010, 08:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>if your hands are fucking huge it's an alternative.
lol i wonder how spinners with huge hands spun well before busters existed...
anyway,
beginners honestly dont need a buster.
its overrated. period.
just start with a pencil, bic, rsvp, whatever
Just because you spin with a buster doesn't mean you're gonna get better. -
Date: Mon, Jan 18 2010 13:12:05
bictory and r-stic is the best for beginner. safe your buster until you master fundamentals and the rev fundamental
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Date: Mon, Jan 18 2010 13:39:25
if you do TA to air > Haitua sure
you can do it with F3000 and RSVP MX
and more -
Date: Mon, Jan 18 2010 16:12:48QUOTE (Spinnerpeem @ Jan 18 2010, 07:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>if you do TA to air > Haitua sure
you can do it with F3000 and RSVP MX
and more
Yea. I do recomend a MX varient as a beginner. That's what I used -
Date: Mon, Jan 18 2010 16:15:37
if you spin a heavy mod when you first start, you're going to spin really fast... but really choppy. your smoothness isn't going to be good because your fingers haven't built up the dexterity to change the direction of the pen from say a TA to a TA rev without having to grab the pen and reposition it. A light mod gives you smoothness, which is what I like to see in spinners.
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Date: Mon, Jan 18 2010 17:03:39
Needlepoint mod is a really nice pen for beginners, if they can get the parts.
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Date: Mon, Jan 18 2010 18:36:55
I recamend a medium weight 2 sided mod like waterfall or namae mod for begininers. They are good for leaning but you can still spin light mods. Where as if you spin a buster you can never go back
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Date: Tue, Jan 19 2010 00:43:44QUOTE (SJ @ Jan 18 2010, 06:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>lol i wonder how spinners with huge hands spun well before busters existed...
grip aviaires?QUOTE (Kirby @ Jan 19 2010, 02:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I recamend a medium weight 2 sided mod like waterfall or namae mod for begininers. They are good for leaning but you can still spin light mods. Where as if you spin a buster you can never go back
aren't waterfalls heavy?
AS A BEGINNER, WHO HAS MASTER MOST FUNDIES, THE BEST BET IS A LIGHT MOD, AN RSVP MX, COMSSA, BICTORY/R-STIC
important info is in big font
also, thai style is over rated -
Date: Tue, Jan 19 2010 01:57:28
BUSTER FOR BEGINNERS=BAD
if you start w/ a buster, you'll NEVER be able to spin anything lighter. PLUS your hands get tired after like a minute AND the buster is huge, as in like 3-4 cm longer than my hand
spin a light-medium weight mod first, likea signo tipped mx or a namae mod
move to heavier mods once you have some more experience
and kryder, yeah waterfalls are towards the heavy end of mods -
Date: Tue, Jan 19 2010 02:08:56
I would start with an MX, a commsa, or a bictori. Those are what I used. A buster is huge and heavy, which is what I use. For a beginner, however, that is different. Once you spin a buster, you can't go back to a light mod.
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Date: Tue, Jan 19 2010 02:13:01QUOTE (TeddyBear @ Jan 18 2010, 09:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I would start with an MX, a commsa, or a bictori. Those are what I used. A buster is huge and heavy, which is what I use. For a beginner, however, that is different. Once you spin a buster, you can't go back to a light mod.
Thats what im usin' now -
Date: Fri, Jan 22 2010 22:36:45
Regardless of what everyone said. Honestly, you can do whatever you want lol.
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Date: Sat, Jan 23 2010 23:26:43
What exactly is a beginner?
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Date: Sat, Jan 23 2010 23:36:21
under 6 month spinner would be a beginner in my opinion
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Date: Sun, Jan 24 2010 00:08:35
i used to spin a buster when i was new for like 2 months thats all i spun
but when i learned it would mess up my spinning when i visited UPSB...
2 weeks of spinning nothing but a pencil daily for hours got me spinning an mx just like i did with the buster [just faster]
but i swear it was like learning to spin all over again when i picked that pencil up.. -
Date: Sun, Jan 24 2010 00:29:58
kinda ot: but i can do more busts on a waterfall than on a buster :/
and as a beginner, i used a signo tipped comssa, which is what i would recommend, eventhough its really long D: -
Date: Mon, Feb 8 2010 22:21:26
What if I switched off between practicing with my mx and a buster?
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Date: Mon, Feb 8 2010 23:01:28QUOTE (MP125 @ Feb 8 2010, 04:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>What if I switched off between practicing with my mx and a buster?
Sooner or later you'll find out how much easier the buster is to spin. Then you'll never spin the MX and be addicted to the buster. It's a possibility
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Date: Tue, Feb 9 2010 04:42:22
Don't spin busters, they're overrated
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Date: Fri, Mar 5 2010 02:29:35
Would I be considored a beginner if I spun for 4months but have already learned:(With a RSVP MX)
Basics(Sonic Rise+Fall, Ta+Rev, FingerPass, Infinity,etc)
Double Charge
Twisted Sonic Bustx2 (max)
TA cont x3(max)
NeoBak
And currently working on BakFall...Just can't get a pinkyaround with a catch. =\
I'm able to connect everything together pretty well, but still a bit sloppy.
I was thinking about getting a BCYL...Should I? -
Date: Fri, Mar 5 2010 03:28:18
yes u are a beginner still, and spin w/e u want.
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Date: Fri, Mar 5 2010 05:45:32QUOTE (SpinnerTreK @ Mar 4 2010, 06:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Would I be considored a beginner if I spun for 4months but have already learned:(With a RSVP MX)
Basics(Sonic Rise+Fall, Ta+Rev, FingerPass, Infinity,etc)
Double Charge
Twisted Sonic Bustx2 (max)
TA cont x3(max)
NeoBak
And currently working on BakFall...Just can't get a pinkyaround with a catch. =\
I'm able to connect everything together pretty well, but still a bit sloppy.
I was thinking about getting a BCYL...Should I?
if you've been spinning an mx, i would recommend a signo tipped comssa with a super pirat barrel. going straight to a buster is WAY too big of a weight difference. esp a SUDDEN one.