UPSB v3
Fundamental Tricks / Thumbaround Harmonic Thread
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Date: Sun, Jul 1 2007 02:37:52
Use this thread to discuss the ThumbAround Harmonic. (Note, for the individual components, ThumbAound Normal and Reverse, check their seperate threads.)
This combo consistes simply of ThumbAround Normal > ThumbAround Reverse. They are usually linked by almost bouncing the pen off the index after the thumbaround to transfer into the reverse. Some find this method eaier than doing the TA rev alone, some find it harder.
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Date: Mon, Sep 10 2007 16:44:15
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Date: Wed, Nov 28 2007 02:18:30
Does anybody know the world record for it?
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Date: Wed, Nov 28 2007 07:08:43
The world record for ta harmonic would be very very high that people would get bored or their hands would start hurting before they stopped
Some people have been able to do it for a very long time though, Scott once posted in PS Journal on UCPSB that he did it for 8 minutes straight (I know that because I stalk him) and I'm sure that some people could do it for longer then that. -
Date: Wed, Nov 28 2007 23:34:16QUOTE (Tim @ Nov 27 2007, 11:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The world record for ta harmonic would be very very high that people would get bored or their hands would start hurting before they stopped Some people have been able to do it for a very long time though, Scott once posted in PS Journal on UCPSB that he did it for 8 minutes straight (I know that because I stalk him) and I'm sure that some people could do it for longer then that.
oh damn, i can barely do 10 thumbaround harmonics.. -
Date: Fri, Nov 30 2007 07:32:56
Don't worry, I can't do them for more then 40 seconds and I've been spinning for longer then you have. If you practice them hardcore for a week or so you should be able to do it for at least a minute.
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Date: Sat, Dec 1 2007 23:00:50
i did it for 13 min once in class it hurt so bad
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Date: Tue, Dec 4 2007 01:00:18
Not sure how long it took but I did 200 once. Very unpleasant. I was sure my thumb would fall off ><
I could have done it forever if my hand didn't start hurting so bad... -
Date: Tue, Dec 11 2007 13:19:47
does TA harmonic hurting hand? I did with highest record of 185 once ago but i don't feel hurting(or maybe i could have forgotten?).
Well, when doing a 50+ ta harmonic, i can feel like my hand is a bit out of control and dare not move my concentration away from it, then when 80~100+, i feel like my hand is a bit like robotic, feel like will it never end? lol, but it fell at just after 185.
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Date: Sun, Dec 16 2007 12:47:12
normally i would do a ta harmonic with a middle finger push for the ta and a reverse ta that would land in the 23 slot
but if i do the harmonic with an index push, and then do a reverse and land it in the 12 slot and then continue that...what would the notation be for that?
ta harmonic 12,12...? index ta harmonic?
i was just wondering since i did a reverse into teh 12 slot (which i've never really did before since i've always just landed it into the 23 slot) and then did an index ta, and so yeah...just wondered about the notation for that -
Date: Sun, Dec 16 2007 15:05:29
You would not use any kind of special notation for that, you would just list the actual tricks:
Thumbaround Reverse T1-T1 > Thumbaround Normal T1-T1 -
Date: Thu, Dec 27 2007 20:34:22
snap, i hate this combo , because of the ta reverse obviously
i do tricks that are considered harder but this one is so bizzare to do
is it normal to have it so hard to learn? -
Date: Thu, Dec 27 2007 21:12:37
I learned Fingerless Thumbaround Reverse long before Thumbaround Reverse because I couldn't get the trick down. It took me a long time to learn.
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Date: Thu, Dec 27 2007 21:29:47
Yeah TA rev is actually one of the hardest tricks.
You could consider it the hardest - let me explain. Now, when I learn a new trick, I know what I have to think about, to know how to set up the fingers, how to move them, think about the gravitation etc. But back then when I was learning TA rev I didn't really know how to think about the trick, so I was just watching tutorials and trying to do it (and I was failing hard), because TA rev is just really hard trick for a newbie to penspinning.
But harmonic ta is really great reward, it felt so good when I first done it. -
Date: Fri, Dec 28 2007 18:34:21
i can do the ta reverse on its own, and i can even do harmonic a small few times, but thats it
the normal ta feels so comfortable and i can do it from odd situations , but i gotta focus and have my hand set to do the ta reverse
is it normal? i forgot how it is to learn a new trick
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Date: Fri, Dec 28 2007 19:24:36
Well it's normal, because TA can be done from any position, while ta rav can'T or would be REALLY hard. But its just probably lack of practice from your side, in time you will feel much more comfortable while doing ta rev...
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Date: Sat, Dec 29 2007 15:17:05
When doing ta harmonic(continuously), my index finger don't really push at the COG(the point) when doing the rev, i push slightly lower. i learned ta harmonic by doing a ta then immediately index finger push at the pen, i didn't care much until i can do a ta rev immediately after a ta without lag(i didn't care even if i didn't manage to catch it after ta rev). Of course you have to position your index finger ready so your thumb is at between your middle finger tip and index finger tip. i hope this helps.
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Date: Thu, May 22 2008 20:04:55
I can't do this more than once. I hit it back with my index finger, but then it goes over my middle finger, and I'm forced to catch it. I'm almost starting to think my middle finger is too short...
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Date: Thu, May 22 2008 20:11:45
You just have to push it down more during the reverse TA and move it outward when you're catching it.
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Date: Fri, Jul 18 2008 11:26:04
my record is 326 times i done it while on a bus home and my thumb kinda felt numb
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Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 03:54:00
you guys are good.. I can only hold it for like.. 30 sec -
Date: Thu, Aug 14 2008 12:44:37
I watched Eso's tutorial but still dont get it. How are you supposed to push the TA Rev back to TA with the middle finger.
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Date: Fri, Aug 15 2008 15:06:56QUOTE (raelz @ Dec 27 2007, 05:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Yeah TA rev is actually one of the hardest tricks.
You could consider it the hardest - let me explain. Now, when I learn a new trick, I know what I have to think about, to know how to set up the fingers, how to move them, think about the gravitation etc. But back then when I was learning TA rev I didn't really know how to think about the trick, so I was just watching tutorials and trying to do it (and I was failing hard), because TA rev is just really hard trick for a newbie to penspinning.
But harmonic ta is really great reward, it felt so good when I first done it.
I think its probably one of the hardest fundamentals, but not the hardest tricks to learn. Once you get the hang of it, its cakewalk and will come as second nature. As with any trick, practice makes perfect. Keep at it and you WILL get it eventually. TA Rev was tough for me at first, it kept hitting my knuckles and the pen would fling off of my hand. After a while i figured out that circumfrence orientation of the pen kept it from hitting my knuckle.
As for TA harmonics.. i find it easier to start off with the TA Rev, because on the rebound the finger bounces off of the middle finger better. what do other people like to start with? TA or TA Rev? And if you think TA Harmonic is tough, try TS Harmonic. Now thats tough! -
Date: Fri, Aug 15 2008 17:44:00
yes, it is easier to start with the ta rev for the harmonic motion
practice ta rev > ta after learning rev ta
get that mastered, then learn the push from ta > ta rev after. don't rush in and try to learn everything at once -
Date: Thu, Aug 21 2008 08:41:43
thnx that helped alot
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Date: Fri, Aug 29 2008 06:50:29
When should you hit the TA Rev? Horizontally (like when you do a TA Rev) or before it gets to that position? Also, for some strange reason whenever I try to do the TA Rev while the pen is still rotating, I use my the skin below my fingernail instead of the tip of my finger. >.<
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Date: Fri, Aug 29 2008 21:37:12QUOTE (Coolblue @ Aug 14 2008, 05:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I watched Eso's tutorial but still dont get it. How are you supposed to push the TA Rev back to TA with the middle finger.
don't use middle, use index. for reverse
basically do this:
Hold pen in T1 2 3 (thumb, middle and index)
push with middle finger. > doing a TA (thumbaround)
catch: so that the pen is resting on top of middle, and index is in "shooting gun" position.
push with middle finger (like pulling a trigger)
catch with: T1 and 3 (thumb and middle finger)
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Date: Fri, Aug 29 2008 23:42:30
k, I also watched eso's tut and he does harmonic with his hand closed, while i prefer doing with the fingers in the position of a normal thumbaround (fingers kinda streched)
Does that affects the "harmonic" part of the move?
Dunno if i said it clearly u.u -
Date: Fri, Aug 29 2008 23:57:08QUOTE (DeadMyth @ Aug 29 2008, 04:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>k, I also watched eso's tut and he does harmonic with his hand closed, while i prefer doing with the fingers in the position of a normal thumbaround (fingers kinda streched)
Does that affects the "harmonic" part of the move?
Dunno if i said it clearly u.u
pic please, and or link to eso tut vid -
Date: Sat, Aug 30 2008 02:20:44
@Dead
No, that's the way I do it too *highfive* ;D
but i found it took more practice and is more time consuming to build up the same speed and consistancy as the closed hand position.
After you get it going (with the more streched out hand) I think you will find that it is easy to close the hand a little bit and you will get more speed with less movement.
The preffered way is with the closed hand aka in eso's tutorial however the harder way is just as good but just harder?....
I hope I helped a little...
It is still harmonic to answer your question though =] -
Date: Wed, Sep 10 2008 12:26:25
I've mastered the TA and TA reverse some time ago and I've been trying Harmonic for about a week.
During the first day I managed to do TA rev -> TA and back to TA rev in a continuous motion without the pen stopping. I can't, however do TA -> TA rev in a continuous motion, the only way is to stop the pen and then do rev. For example, I start with Rev, then do TA and when the pen is going back to rev position I can't make it spin again back to TA position.
. I've been trying for a week and I'm getting little or no progress.
I've watched eso's video and I do as he says but I just can't get it =/. Any tips on how to hold it or any other good tut?
Any help would be greatly appreciated, this is so frustrating -
Date: Wed, Sep 10 2008 19:00:20
Lmao it's ok it was the same with me, be persistent, I lsot my drive and I havent quite mastered it to date 0 - o
so yah, practice your reverse thumb arround, as that is strenghed you will see that you can do it both ways faster and faster =]
THe pen should be bouncing back and forth, not being caught and then pushed again.
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Date: Wed, Sep 10 2008 19:08:16
Alright I guess it's back to practice again
Haha, thanks! -
Date: Wed, Sep 10 2008 20:22:53
Its jsut easier for some people... not encluding me...
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Date: Fri, Oct 3 2008 10:41:05
i held it for like 2 mins+ during an exam..yeah...but what mods do u think wud be the best to do thumbaround harmonic with? i think that a thicker barrel and more momentum shud help rite?
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Date: Fri, Oct 3 2008 10:57:20
Momentum i think is quite important. but my TA harmonic i always catch with 23. so i have a problem continuing sometimes ><
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Date: Fri, Oct 3 2008 12:34:13
Im guessing your talkgn about when you do a thumb arround ti doesnt catch right? practice thumb arrounds into the correct catch, try to bounce the pen more and catch less =]
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Date: Sat, Nov 1 2008 18:24:51
for me TA rev isnt verry hard, but TA harmonic i can do max 3 times. for me hardest fundamental what i still haven't learned is charge
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Date: Fri, Nov 14 2008 01:04:54QUOTE (Vall3y @ Dec 28 2007, 01:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i can do the ta reverse on its own, and i can even do harmonic a small few times, but thats it
the normal ta feels so comfortable and i can do it from odd situations , but i gotta focus and have my hand set to do the ta reverse
is it normal? i forgot how it is to learn a new trick is it just a matter of time, and practice?
yea, the same thing with me. I used to have to reposition the pen to do a TA rev after a regular thumbaround, but after practicing TA reverse by itself a while by itself, it made it easier to go from a TA to a TA rev without stopping.
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Date: Fri, Nov 14 2008 22:32:10
With the harmonic .. when doing the TA are you supposed to push with your middle finger ??
'cos I'm used to pushing with my index and I TA reverse with my index as well ... so it's kinda' slow and not smooth. -
Date: Sat, Nov 15 2008 14:27:52
well, the normal way, yes.
but i can do it with index and ring as well. not my pinky though (hard!)
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Date: Sat, Nov 15 2008 22:03:23
I like pushing with my index too ....
But with practise, can you get the harmonic as smooth as other people using their middle finger if you use your index? -
Date: Sat, Nov 15 2008 23:36:23QUOTE (BL4CKCR4Y0NS @ Nov 15 2008, 02:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I like pushing with my index too ....
But with practise, can you get the harmonic as smooth as other people using their middle finger if you use your index?
Yes, with enough practice you could even do TA harmonic with only your middle finger smoothly. -
Date: Sun, Nov 16 2008 05:10:55QUOTE (Missle_Z @ Nov 16 2008, 10:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Yes, with enough practice you could even do TA harmonic with only your middle finger smoothly.
How on earth do you do a TA Rev with middle finger?
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Date: Sun, Nov 16 2008 19:48:54
yeah, try using the middle finger for TA normal
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Date: Mon, Nov 17 2008 11:08:56QUOTE (DeadMyth @ Aug 30 2008, 06:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>k, I also watched eso's tut and he does harmonic with his hand closed, while i prefer doing with the fingers in the position of a normal thumbaround (fingers kinda streched)
Does that affects the "harmonic" part of the move?
Dunno if i said it clearly u.u
Don't think so...When I do it it kinda looks like I'm holding a cup
Might be because I hold cups weird though... -
Date: Thu, Nov 20 2008 11:00:00
I use my middle finger the do the thumbaround then the index for reverse feels like its only the index moving when you do it but i can only do about 15 then drop it or it goes out of place.
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Date: Fri, Nov 21 2008 21:42:37QUOTEHow on earth do you do a TA Rev with middle finger?
It just does the same action the index does... -
Date: Fri, Nov 21 2008 22:01:17QUOTE (Crazy Demon @ Nov 22 2008, 08:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>It just does the same action the index does...
Isn't the index in the way ..? -
Date: Wed, Dec 3 2008 13:25:27
The ta harmonic was the penspinning combo which lead me to pursue penspinning.
To date, I've been practicing the ta harmonic for like, almost a week. I understand how the pen goes around the thumb and which fingers to move. When I do ta normal > ta rev > ta normal I can do it at max speed, but I'm not that good with the ta rev. Until now I still can't catch it properly. When the pen approaches the ta normal starting position, my middle finger isn't quite strong or flexible enuf to bounce back the pen. T_T
If anyone cud help me I could post a vid of me doing it... -
Date: Wed, Dec 3 2008 16:11:26QUOTE (icepisces32 @ Dec 3 2008, 07:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The ta harmonic was the penspinning combo which lead me to pursue penspinning.
To date, I've been practicing the ta harmonic for like, almost a week. I understand how the pen goes around the thumb and which fingers to move. When I do ta normal > ta rev > ta normal I can do it at max speed, but I'm not that good with the ta rev. Until now I still can't catch it properly. When the pen approaches the ta normal starting position, my middle finger isn't quite strong or flexible enuf to bounce back the pen. T_T
If anyone cud help me I could post a vid of me doing it...
ive been pen spinning for 8 days...i can do ta,ta rev , sonic , twisted sonic , charge , finger pass and sonic 34- 32
thumb around harominic has been one the tricks i wanted to do frm the start because of it i put in a lot of effort to learn ta rev it took me 5 days of hardcore practice to get this and i can still barely do a single harmonic and not even that most of the time. i have the SAME prob as you. i thinck its because when i do a ta i can postion the pen in the perfect postion for ta rev but when i do ta rev i can postion it that well to do a ta again...
what to do to fix this ........... -
Date: Thu, Dec 4 2008 11:25:02QUOTE (nightkill @ Dec 4 2008, 12:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>ive been pen spinning for 8 days...i can do ta,ta rev , sonic , twisted sonic , charge , finger pass and sonic 34- 32
thumb around harominic has been one the tricks i wanted to do frm the start because of it i put in a lot of effort to learn ta rev it took me 5 days of hardcore practice to get this and i can still barely do a single harmonic and not even that most of the time. i have the SAME prob as you. i thinck its because when i do a ta i can postion the pen in the perfect postion for ta rev but when i do ta rev i can postion it that well to do a ta again...
what to do to fix this ...........
True....Whn it comes to the ta>ta rev it's easy alright, but as the pen approaches the position for the next ta, it's either: my pen flies off, it does some kinda thumbspin rev, it does a halftap rev, or it goes back to the correct position. When it does, there's a 1/20 chance that my middle reacts to it and bounces back, but after that bounce my index forgets to respond XX. i thought I was so close...T_T -
Date: Thu, Dec 4 2008 12:15:47QUOTE (icepisces32 @ Dec 4 2008, 06:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>True....Whn it comes to the ta>ta rev it's easy alright, but as the pen approaches the position for the next ta, it's either: my pen flies off, it does some kinda thumbspin rev, it does a halftap rev, or it goes back to the correct position. When it does, there's a 1/20 chance that my middle reacts to it and bounces back, but after that bounce my index forgets to respond XX. i thought I was so close...T_T
Lol....
My problem is on the move right after yours...
When I'm kinda sleepy and not concentrating, my thumb slips and does a TS
And then I can't TA rev it D: -
Date: Fri, Dec 5 2008 12:53:30QUOTE (Biji @ Dec 4 2008, 08:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Lol....
My problem is on the move right after yours...
When I'm kinda sleepy and not concentrating, my thumb slips and does a TS
And then I can't TA rev it D:
I'm starting to get the hang of bouncing it, but I can only manage a ta>ta rev>ta....T_T after that my index once again doesn't respond...T_T The thumbspin's nice, however it isn;t realy the trick we wanted to perform, right? it really irritates me... -
Date: Fri, Dec 5 2008 18:21:19
is harmonic hard to do with an mx?
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Date: Fri, Dec 5 2008 23:41:19QUOTE (icepisces32 @ Dec 5 2008, 06:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I'm starting to get the hang of bouncing it, but I can only manage a ta>ta rev>ta....T_T after that my index once again doesn't respond...T_T The thumbspin's nice, however it isn;t realy the trick we wanted to perform, right? it really irritates me...
same here its kinda hard to hit the pen with the index when its moving, especially the second time i miss or dont hit properly and it ether files out or does thumbspin like you
and tips on how to hit it again with the index properly
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Date: Sat, Dec 6 2008 04:11:29QUOTE (edor @ Dec 5 2008, 02:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>is harmonic hard to do with an mx?
I for one dont like doing it much with a MX cuz of the uneven weight distribution, but its not that hard once you get the hang of it -
Date: Sat, Dec 6 2008 04:37:22QUOTE (nightkill @ Dec 6 2008, 07:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>same here its kinda hard to hit the pen with the index when its moving, especially the second time i miss or dont hit properly and it ether files out or does thumbspin like you
and tips on how to hit it again with the index properly
I'm starting to discover what we're doing wrong...!! I think that whenever the pen approaches the position for a ta or ta rev, our fingers would miss them..! My max. as of now is 3.0 spins...T_T -
Date: Sat, Dec 6 2008 13:05:41QUOTE (icepisces32 @ Dec 6 2008, 10:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I'm starting to discover what we're doing wrong...!! I think that whenever the pen approaches the position for a ta or ta rev, our fingers would miss them..! My max. as of now is 3.0 spins...T_T
3.0 lol my max is 2.5 almost 3 :c im gonna practice it more
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Date: Sat, Dec 6 2008 14:47:25QUOTE (nightkill @ Dec 6 2008, 09:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>3.0 lol my max is 2.5 almost 3 :c im gonna practice it more
just out of curiosity how long u been pen spinning ice?
oh! uhm, i seriously started spinning last week, Nov. 25 or something. Before that I learned the Charge ,Thumbaround, Fingerpass, Indexaround and Rev, FL TA Reverse without knowing what they were called until late this year. Basically I've been practicing the ta harmonic for almost a week now. You?? -
Date: Sat, Dec 6 2008 15:44:21QUOTE (icepisces32 @ Dec 6 2008, 08:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>oh! uhm, i seriously started spinning last week, Nov. 25 or something. Before that I learned the Charge ,Thumbaround, Fingerpass, Indexaround and Rev, FL TA Reverse without knowing what they were called until late this year. Basically I've been practicing the ta harmonic for almost a week now. You??
same man..... November 24 or 2-3 days later.....i need to get me a decent mod(the pens here are shit and there is no such thing as pentel here).gif)
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Date: Sat, Dec 6 2008 16:00:47QUOTE (nightkill @ Dec 6 2008, 11:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>same man..... November 24 or 2-3 days later.....i need to get me a decent mod(the pens here are shit and there is no such thing as pentel here)
ooh, same here! i'm forced to use this makeshift mod made of a double-capped pilot g-tech.....i can't get a decent pen here in davao.... -
Date: Sun, Dec 7 2008 01:37:26QUOTE (icepisces32 @ Dec 6 2008, 09:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>ooh, same here! i'm forced to use this makeshift mod made of a double-capped pilot g-tech.....i can't get a decent pen here in davao....
hey ice i can do upto 3-4 now but witha pause of .75 seconds evertime i do the reverse this happening to you??? -
Date: Sun, Dec 7 2008 02:21:01QUOTE (nightkill @ Dec 7 2008, 09:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>hey ice i can do upto 3-4 now but witha pause of .75 seconds evertime i do the reverse this happening to you???
XD Thankfully I'm steadily improving~ I can do at least 3 and my record was 7-9. XD Though I htink mine is wrong....Next week maybe imma post a vid... -
Date: Mon, Dec 8 2008 20:03:36
i found there was another way to do ta rev in a harmonic which is harder to do but works better....pinch it between index and thumb and fling it left...i was taping on the cop with index before and since index finger is exteded when u do ta it takes a bit of time to get it there..i now curl it below the pen like my middle ;P ...now i can do 7-8 harmonics..im so stupid shudve figured this out earlier
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Date: Tue, Dec 9 2008 07:03:16QUOTE (nightkill @ Dec 9 2008, 04:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i found there was another way to do ta rev in a harmonic which is harder to do but works better....pinch it between index and thumb and fling it left...i was taping on the cop with index before and since index finger is exteded when u do ta it takes a bit of time to get it there..i now curl it below the pen like my middle ;P ...now i can do 7-8 harmonics..im so stupid shudve figured this out earlier
XD good for ya ^^
sadly i lost the pen i use to practice...T_T -
Date: Tue, Dec 9 2008 14:08:32QUOTE (icepisces32 @ Dec 9 2008, 12:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>XD good for ya ^^
sadly i lost the pen i use to practice...T_T
ive destroyed/lost 3 pens i thought indestructible since i started the fourth could go any time:D -
Date: Tue, Dec 9 2008 14:56:36QUOTE (nightkill @ Dec 9 2008, 10:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>ive destroyed/lost 3 pens i thought indestructible since i started the fourth could go any time:D
lol XD now i have a new pen i've lost my skill XDXD -
Date: Mon, Dec 15 2008 20:39:59
Im proud to say that I got that today.
Now started practising continous ta harmony.
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Date: Fri, Dec 19 2008 06:26:56
i did like 200 in class and my hand hurtsoo much icouldn't write anymore:)
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Date: Sat, Dec 20 2008 01:41:28
I can do one.
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Date: Sat, Dec 20 2008 05:27:47
I started using it to link two of my dif combos together. Its awesome
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Date: Sat, Dec 20 2008 20:08:42
Now i can do 9 to 13.
I DON'T GIVE UP TO PRACTISE. -
Date: Sun, Dec 28 2008 05:39:46
Try doing thumbaround harmonic with just the middle finger. Middle finger as in push for the thumbaround normal and reverse.
It's pretty hard but it looks cooler than the regular thumbaround harmonic.
or try doing thumbaround harmonic with the index finger doing the normal and the middle finger doing the rev. I like this variation of it.. -
Date: Sun, Dec 28 2008 12:08:05
Yea, its right
i hope u will get this quick, because TA harm is a ver commonly used trick in combos. -
Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 10:32:15
Meh I learnt TA rev. before TA Harmonic and they both seemed to be around the same so TA Harmonic would've been harder for me if you think about it...
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Date: Tue, Jan 20 2009 11:19:56
HELP MEE!! I can do a TA rev and TA normal but when I do the TA normal by index finger is going to backoff when the pen spins(mostly in the vids, they will not move their index finger) How can I NOT move it? And in order for me to spin the TA normal I have to hold the pen with my index finger so tucking it under is not a good idea..
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Date: Wed, Jan 21 2009 10:21:16QUOTE (ksiady @ Jan 20 2009, 07:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>HELP MEE!! I can do a TA rev and TA normal but when I do the TA normal by index finger is going to backoff when the pen spins(mostly in the vids, they will not move their index finger) How can I NOT move it? And in order for me to spin the TA normal I have to hold the pen with my index finger so tucking it under is not a good idea..
actually, you CAN do the TA from your index finger, and that requires you to tuck it under for a brief moment, but it is possible to catch it back with the index finger
and, if you are doing regular TA, you HAVE to hold the pen in at least the thumb, middle finger and index finger, and when the middle finger does the push, you index finger has 2 options: one is to back off (usually when you are doing TA as a single trick) or two, curling it a bit in a position to stop the pen using your fingertips so you can continue doing the TA Rev (usually in combos). -
Date: Sat, Jan 24 2009 06:54:47
i just did it for the first time!
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Date: Sat, Mar 28 2009 10:24:16
well practise makes purfect..
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Date: Sat, Mar 28 2009 11:09:50
I find it hard to do this trick
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Date: Sat, Mar 28 2009 11:15:34QUOTE (ksiady @ Jan 20 2009, 07:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>HELP MEE!! I can do a TA rev and TA normal but when I do the TA normal by index finger is going to backoff when the pen spins(mostly in the vids, they will not move their index finger) How can I NOT move it? And in order for me to spin the TA normal I have to hold the pen with my index finger so tucking it under is not a good idea..
Use ur thumb to push then.
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Does anyone know how to do the TA harmonic done by Bonkura? Or is there any video/tutorial on it? -
Date: Tue, May 5 2009 12:14:07QUOTE (Metalm3 @ Mar 28 2009, 07:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Use ur thumb to push then.
EDIT:
Does anyone know how to do the TA harmonic done by Bonkura? Or is there any video/tutorial on it?
are u sure it is done by Bonkura only?maybe other people had did it b4.jus learn it like ta harmonic.but learn the flick from eso's tutorial and practice. -
Date: Fri, May 15 2009 21:20:00QUOTE (phua sy @ May 5 2009, 08:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>are u sure it is done by Bonkura only?maybe other people had did it b4.jus learn it like ta harmonic.but learn the flick from eso's tutorial and practice.
I didn't say it's done by Bonkura only lol. I said the TA Harmonic done by bonkura... because I've not seen somepne else do it(when I posted the post) and Bonkura is a prominent figure so I thought some people might know. Now I've seen Dathroat do it too...
And something funny, I only saw ur post after I learned it
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Date: Sat, May 16 2009 19:10:31
whats a good pen/pencil mod to do TA harmonic with?
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Date: Sat, May 16 2009 19:17:15QUOTE (RoastBeef @ May 16 2009, 12:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>whats a good pen/pencil mod to do TA harmonic with?
long/short? heavy? balanced?
To tell u the truth, any pen is fine once u get used to it. I can almost do TA harmonic with anything, but i guess a balanced long pen would be better. -
Date: Thu, May 21 2009 12:48:48QUOTE (RoastBeef @ May 17 2009, 03:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>whats a good pen/pencil mod to do TA harmonic with?
long/short? heavy? balanced?
If you're still learning TA Harmonic, I'd say a pen that has a substantial amount of momemtum at each side(equally) and length of (tip of ur middle finger to 1-2 fingers below your wrist). -
Date: Thu, May 21 2009 12:56:00
hithckiker thumb helps lots but use a pencil i use that to learn
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Date: Thu, Jun 11 2009 21:01:01
id say the best is a long balanced and fairly heavy pen works the best to learn w/
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Date: Mon, Jun 15 2009 21:22:10
When I do this trick I find it a lot easier if I catch the rev TA with my 3 finger instead of my 2 finger.. Should I practice working on catching it with my 2 finger or will using my 3 finger not really affect my spinning that much in the future?
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Date: Sat, Oct 17 2009 22:18:01
I think I did the record for this, But I still remember when I was learning it by myself, it took me longer than anybody to master it imo. TA Harmonic Record.
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Date: Sun, Oct 18 2009 22:43:57
Hey guys I can finally do this trick. After like 3-4 days of practice I managed to do it. But sometimes it spins out of control and falls or it does not spin at all.
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Date: Mon, Oct 19 2009 06:02:57QUOTE (Xantu @ Jun 15 2009, 05:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>When I do this trick I find it a lot easier if I catch the rev TA with my 3 finger instead of my 2 finger.. Should I practice working on catching it with my 2 finger or will using my 3 finger not really affect my spinning that much in the future?
u shud practice with all fingers after u get the "traditional thumbaround" which uses finger 2 (middle finger)
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Date: Mon, Oct 19 2009 20:56:11QUOTE (El Deal @ Dec 1 2007, 06:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i did it for 13 min once in class it hurt so bad
Lol I've done that before.. -
Date: Wed, Oct 21 2009 12:02:09
i can't do rev ta so i always do rev flta,ta,revflta,t
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Date: Thu, Oct 22 2009 19:51:08
TA harmonic for me is easy to do, but hard to get "smooth", I start with TA normal, then do TA rev, then TA normal, but after that, whenever I get to a REV, I have to reposition my fingers each time.
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Date: Tue, Dec 22 2009 14:44:24QUOTE (DarreN @ Jul 18 2008, 06:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>my record is 326 times i done it while on a bus home and my thumb kinda felt numb
Wow nice...My record's only 32
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Date: Wed, Dec 23 2009 00:29:40
It's not too hard to do, but it takes skill to do it for a looong time without fail
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Date: Wed, Dec 23 2009 02:14:25
went on for about 30 mins then tried to do ariel thumbarounds and reverses ..it didnt work
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Date: Wed, Dec 23 2009 03:50:16QUOTE (CDN-izedAZN @ Dec 22 2009, 07:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>It's not too hard to do, but it takes skill to do it for a looong time without fail
Yeah.My only problem is that my fingers get hurt after doing 30 of them XD -
Date: Sun, Jan 3 2010 16:38:57
i find it very easy to do the harmonic, its not to hard, took me awhile to learn but i got it down
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Date: Thu, Feb 25 2010 07:46:57
I just actually just got it down.
So far I just need more practice. -
Date: Thu, Feb 25 2010 09:16:45
i learn the harmonic first than the rev it's easier for me