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Serious Discussion / Something I was wondering about

instincts

  1. Dark Angel-REX
    Date: Thu, Feb 4 2010 10:23:15

    I was wondering whether so-called "motherly-instincts" are actually instincts. Like the feeling of Duty of raising a child or saving them when they are in danger.

    I'm not really sure if it's an instinct, or something we gain while we are raised. Think about it. There was test of Chimpanzee where they completely shut one Chimpanzee from any other Chimpanzees ever since it was born, and when that Chimpanzee got a child, the Chimpanzee neglected it.




    So is Motherly-Instincts, instincts? Discuss.

  2. Zombo
    Date: Thu, Feb 4 2010 15:38:08

    not a good example

    if someone has mental illness it can affect basic instincts.

  3. Dark Angel-REX
    Date: Thu, Feb 4 2010 15:52:37

    sorry, I don't really get what you meant? Could you explain it further?


    EDIT: Oh I get what you mean. I'm not really sure if it does. Or is it that in the Human Mind Picture , the oneI showed on the other thread, the boxes are falling apart or something like that.

    Not sure if mental illness affect instincts.


    Why would you actually call people who neglects child because they have never ever communicated with any other same species, as "mentally ill"?

  4. strat1227
    Date: Thu, Feb 4 2010 15:54:19

    I think you can have "unnatural" instincts ... meaning maybe when a girl is born she doesn't have motherly instincts, but once they have a child these instincts develop.

  5. Dark Angel-REX
    Date: Thu, Feb 4 2010 15:57:01

    Oh maybe. But the part I'm not really sure is whether the things that "develop" is instinct, or just something you gain as you realize your position as mother/father, so not an instinct.

  6. Zombo
    Date: Thu, Feb 4 2010 15:57:55

    QUOTE (Dark Angel-REX @ Feb 4 2010, 10:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    sorry, I don't really get what you meant? Could you explain it further?


    EDIT: Oh I get what you mean. I'm not really sure if it does. Or is it that in the Human Mind Picture , the oneI showed on the other thread, the boxes are falling apart or something like that.

    Not sure if mental illness affect instincts.


    Why would you actually call people who neglects child because they have never ever communicated with any other same species, as "mentally ill"?


    social needs is one of the fundamental for human well-being, a person or an animal which is isolated all his life will surely develop mental problems.

  7. Dark Angel-REX
    Date: Thu, Feb 4 2010 16:01:49

    Though this "mental problems" are extremely relative with us. More like we think anyone who is not similar to us is "weird". It's the degree of this "weirdness" that is either classified "mentally ill" or just simply and non-severely "weird".


    Though you pointed out one thing that human are generally social, which is very true.

  8. Zombo
    Date: Thu, Feb 4 2010 16:26:59

    all im saying is this experiment proves nothing.

  9. Dark Angel-REX
    Date: Thu, Feb 4 2010 16:30:57

    ah I see.

  10. Sadistic
    Date: Thu, Feb 4 2010 16:48:40

    Would you consider facial expression/facial recognition an instinct? Because emotional expressions of the face are known without being taught....

  11. Dark Angel-REX
    Date: Thu, Feb 4 2010 16:51:00

    that's true. I dunno tbh.

  12. Zombo
    Date: Thu, Feb 4 2010 16:55:21

    there are some biological evidence that women are better able to read body and facial language than men, which helps them understand babies and children better.

  13. Sadistic
    Date: Fri, Feb 5 2010 01:42:57

    In such a social species, natural selection would select for traits that have positive effects on the community. Enhanced communication, natural empathy, social intelligence etc... There are a lot of things you could consider partially instinctive, but humans can control most of their instinctive demands. I believe there is a thing called the biological leash or something that has to do with this.

  14. XYZaki
    Date: Mon, May 10 2010 04:18:29

    I read that there are hormones that develop that call for motherly instincts (such as caring for the child) during pregnancy.