UPSB v3 Archive | Overrated? Underrated?

Kirby

Date: Mon, Mar 29 2010 01:35:05

I was reading Mats thread "Is there a best Penspinner", and for some reason it made me think about what Spinners are overrated and which spinners are underrated.

Please discuss who is overrated/underrated and why? This is based on only opinions, so dont flame like, "HEY, xxxx isn't overrated! Your just a noob" unless they don't give a decent reason

To start it off, 1 spinner I think is underrated is ACID DNA. This is because of his continuous tricks, escpecially busts are incredable. He is a smooth and pretty well round spinner. He can even 2P2H well. Although he is in world cup for PSH, I feel he doesn't get as much respect as he deserves.

Two overrated spinners in my opinion are Fratlym and Bonkura. The main reason fratlym is overrated is that he beat Dongza in Round 3 of WT 08 or 09 (I relly don't remember). Dongza raped him with amazing speed and smoothness, while Fratlym did slow, unsmooth, terrible looking infinity type tricks. Bonkura: great spinner, overrated. he was good but him dying has made him "better" and earned him more respect. People think of him as a pen spinning legend and one of (if not the best) spinners ever. If he didn't die, he would still be good, but not as respected or popular.

These are just my opinions and I'd like to hear yours

hoiboy

Date: Mon, Mar 29 2010 01:42:58

way to spell "fratelym" right
as a rebuttal to bonkura: bonkura more or less was the original pyralux. he pushed the limits of pen spinning, doing what no one else did.

underrated: eriror
he used to be popular, and now he's falling out of line with most pen spinners. i often see comments saying "dood ur style is so boring no power tricks". eriror is going toward better linkages, not better tricks. clean style + non power trick difficulty = win

overrated: peem
his spinning is rather... ugly.

JC

Date: Mon, Mar 29 2010 01:49:41

................
lol...
Okay, I disagree...

Acid DNA is overrated; there are people who are like, omg, he's such a good spinner cause of all his busts/aerial busts in every finger, but that's all he really has going for him. Peem does busts a lot too, but at least he adds a lot of other stuff. Acid DNA doesn't have much creative linkage and I'd have to disagree with the well rounded spinner part, even if he can do 2p2h. Sure, acid dna's not thatttt famous anyway, but I don't think he should be any more famous. I think he's getting what he deserves right now for what he does.... I do think he has some skill with busting, but that's all he really has.

Fratelym on the other hand, i feel like is underrated. He has some very creative linkages and new material/concepts, but he doesn't get the respect for the difficulty of those tricks/ideas and creativity because of the fact that it doesn't look that nice. He's not overrated because not many people like him because of his style (even though there are those who do like/appreciate his style). Rather, fratelym is underrated imo, because he doesn't get the respect he deserves for the difficulty/creativity of his tricks. Personally, I don't like his style, but i give him credit for expanding spinning styles and concepts/ideas. Due to his..unattractive style.. + his difficulty/creativity, I don't think he's overrated or underrated.

Bonkura was great for his time. Nobody knows how great he'll be now, but for his time, he was great and not overrated. He died, so he's gotten quite a bit of attention after that, but it's more out of respect for all the things he's accomplished back then. It's like his status from before he passed away was frozen and it continued to live on, even though in today's time, despite his smoothness, he wouldn't be super godly anymore--he'd still be an alright spinner though.

Kirby

Date: Mon, Mar 29 2010 01:54:51

We have very different opinions although I somewhat agree with the AcidDNA thing. But I really do think bonkura gets more respect because he died, rather then what he accompished.

Dan

Date: Mon, Mar 29 2010 03:02:59

kazu is underrated imo...
he has some really nice linkages and difficulty.
hmm maybe its just that people dont recognize him.?

idk but his style is very likable

k-ryder

Date: Mon, Mar 29 2010 09:59:09

regarding bonkura (rant-storm imminent)
sure, he was great and all before his death
i'll acknowledge that, even though i wasn't into pen spinning then
but it's the people that flock to his fan base after his death, even though they dont particularly like his style
just like my example with MJ in the previous thread, some people (not all) have flocked because he died
not saying that he didn't have fans before, but more have flocked because he died
bonkura is the same
my final word on bonkura is, yes, he's good, but people have flocked

(rant-storm wasn't that bad actually)

but then again, there always will be sheep
peem is seeing the same
yes, his difficulty was something that we hadn't seen before
yes, he did innovate and create a range of powertricks
and yes, he (arguably) started a new trend in pen spinning (a trend i dont like, but thats a different story)
but i do think that some people like peem because other people do
let just forget that i'm highly cynical
peem is a great spinner, but i honestly think he's over-rated

i'll add JEB to the over-rated list
for the same reason as peem
not because they're crap, but because people flock

.... i think i'm seeing a trend here
i dont seem to like popular spinners....

anyway, lets just respond to the spinners mentioned

frat....
neither under or over
he's just recognised for having unnatually bending fingers
end of story

hmm... my under-rated spinners
dunno lol

Mats

Date: Mon, Mar 29 2010 10:07:36

Underrated - Erirornal K - He seems to me to be the best in the world. Most certainly, by a long way, the best on this forum.

Overrated - Many power trickers, Fratlame.

Hippo2626

Date: Mon, Mar 29 2010 13:55:15

I'd say Supawit is underrated. in the sense that Spinnerpeem is overshadowing him. In terms of power tricks Spinnerpeem is definitely better that Supawit. However in a more holistic view, Supawit is better than Peem hands down. He's insanely smooth, good variety, has good linkages, etc... The sad thing is that When you think of THPSC, Spinnerpeem is the first one you think of. Even, though Peem beat Supawit in the WT, I feel Supawit is better and deserves more recognition (even though he is rather popular already.)
Another rather underrated spinner is Freeman. He is one of the most creative spinners I've seen and he is very skilled as well (not in the power trick sense.) He has great control, now he has 2 styles one very fast the other cool and smooth, really cool linkages, need I go on. I think he should be as known as Baaron but sadly he isn't.

Basically, from what I said above and related to other peoples comments on who is underrated and overrated, I think the main cause of why some people get more recognition while others get less than they deserve is because of power tricks... I have nothing against it and I think that it's cool but people now rate a spinners skill mainly on the how well you can do power tricks. I don't blame them, If you were new to PSing or you turn off you brain and watch a PSing video the first and main thing that you notice is the power tricks. Even now in the WT when the spinners spinning in the difficulty, majority of the combo's are power tricks, I think there's so much more to it than just power tricks like difficult linkages to name one.

JC

Date: Mon, Mar 29 2010 14:16:31

QUOTE (Dan @ Mar 28 2010, 11:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

kazu is underrated imo...
he has some really nice linkages and difficulty.
hmm maybe its just that people dont recognize him.?

idk but his style is very likable

perhaps... I don't really know too much about kazu, but I don't doubt that he's a good spinner-- but there's just so many good jeb spinners, it's hard for anyone to stand out as much as seven or kuzu does

QUOTE (k-ryder @ Mar 29 2010, 05:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

regarding bonkura (rant-storm imminent)
sure, he was great and all before his death
i'll acknowledge that, even though i wasn't into pen spinning then
but it's the people that flock to his fan base after his death, even though they dont particularly like his style
just like my example with MJ in the previous thread, some people (not all) have flocked because he died
not saying that he didn't have fans before, but more have flocked because he died
bonkura is the same
my final word on bonkura is, yes, he's good, but people have flocked

(rant-storm wasn't that bad actually)

but then again, there always will be sheep
peem is seeing the same
yes, his difficulty was something that we hadn't seen before
yes, he did innovate and create a range of powertricks
and yes, he (arguably) started a new trend in pen spinning (a trend i dont like, but thats a different story)
but i do think that some people like peem because other people do
let just forget that i'm highly cynical
peem is a great spinner, but i honestly think he's over-rated

i'll add JEB to the over-rated list
for the same reason as peem
not because they're crap, but because people flock

.... i think i'm seeing a trend here
i dont seem to like popular spinners....

@Bonkura thing, people try to remember those who pass away out of respect for them, i feel like that's why people are always mentioning bonkura so much

@Peem/JEB spinner thing, you see to hate the fact that people flock more than the fact that the spinners are good and thus are popular..cause you acknowledge that they're good
people like to have idols, and when a person is good, people admire them and will idolize them...that's just what a lot of people do; people have their favorite spinners

peem and seven are good at what they do, and so people who aim to be like them have them as role models and try to practice to be like them
-while the whole fanboy thing doesn't really appeal to me, i don't think it's an issue that people have a role model to work their way up towards and have as motivation to get better

-someone is overrated imo when they have a large fan base, but aren't good enough at spinning to deserve it
-and someone is underrated when they dont' have a large fan base, evne though they're really good

that's just my own definition of it i suppose, but to say, peem is good, but peem has a lot of fans so he's overrated... i don't think that's right (i sound like a peem fan lol, i swear i'm not)
kirby's original statement that frat has a fair amount of fans, but has an ugly style (in his opinion) and bad spinning is a more legitimate reason why he thinks that he's overrated-- even though i disagree with that since i thought his spinning has its merits

Mats

Date: Mon, Mar 29 2010 20:47:49

I don't think rating is only about 'fan base'. I also think people can be underrated in tournaments, from bad judging, or bad luck or whatever. I mean, you could be awesome but go out almost immediately in the world tournament to the eventual winner, when in reality, you deserved to be top 3.

The same situation can happen in the world cup (am using these as an example since the videos are widely viewed and a good way to get known in the pen spinning community). You could be put into a battle for creativity and just be beaten by like Pyralux, then get stuck in difficulty against Eriror (I realise these two aren't in the world cup, but it's just an example). Lose both, even though you might have beaten almost everyone else in the tournament, and end up looking like you're not so good as your are.

So I think it has to be a combination of fans and results and not just one or the other.

Zombo

Date: Mon, Mar 29 2010 20:50:41

agree 100% that supawit is underrated because of peem

i dont like talking about overrated because it's negative

but for underrated i'd say romain hxc never really got the attention he deserved outside of france.

Mats

Date: Mon, Mar 29 2010 20:59:47

I wonder how much attention people like David Weis got outside of UPSB?

Kirby

Date: Mon, Mar 29 2010 21:11:07

QUOTE (Mats @ Mar 29 2010, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I don't think rating is only about 'fan base'. I also think people can be underrated in tournaments, from bad judging, or bad luck or whatever. I mean, you could be awesome but go out almost immediately in the world tournament to the eventual winner, when in reality, you deserved to be top 3.

This is how I feel abou tthat particular Dongza vs. Fratleym battle in WT

Can someone give me the links of the two vids when they battled I can't find them!?

Also, I think that Olii is underrated I personally think he is one of the best overall spinners. he is very well rounded with his good power tircks, Nice creativity and ariels (the cobra bites especially). And he is smooth with good linkages. He has somewhat known, but doesn't get the fanboys and respect he deserves.

Mats

Date: Mon, Mar 29 2010 21:22:50

QUOTE (Kirby @ Mar 29 2010, 10:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

but doesn't get the fanboys and respect he deserves.

Some pen spinners are lucky enough to have fanboys, that's true. Others don't have the fanboys they deserve. But, no pen spinners get the fangirls they deserve...

Frip

Date: Mon, Mar 29 2010 22:41:20

~~Zombo is totally overrated, srsly all he does is spin a pen on his fingertips...how gay is that And Zombo Com is a LIE.~~

wat

No srsly I don't think people realize how good the UPSB spinners are..outside of UPSB. Not many people outside of UPSB know people like teotoko, Simplex, Shadowserpant, etc.. JEB is sort of automatically overrated since they get the most attention when it comes to collabs.

Zombo

Date: Mon, Mar 29 2010 23:12:23

international recognition depends largely on the community like someone said...
Freeman is an awesome spinner.

JC

Date: Mon, Mar 29 2010 23:34:11

QUOTE (Zombo @ Mar 29 2010, 04:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

agree 100% that supawit is underrated because of peem

i agree too sleep(1).gif

QUOTE (Kirby @ Mar 29 2010, 05:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Also, I think that Olii is underrated I personally think he is one of the best overall spinners. he is very well rounded with his good power tircks, Nice creativity and ariels (the cobra bites especially). And he is smooth with good linkages. He has somewhat known, but doesn't get the fanboys and respect he deserves.

You sir... seem to love power trick spinners.. and tend to call them well rounded even though all they do is mainly power tricks (cobra bites are borderline power imo)
but i guess olii's a little bit underrated... there's so many power trick spinners out there though, it's hard to distinguish himself out of everyone else -- i do think he's a decent spinner though

QUOTE (Frip @ Mar 29 2010, 06:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

No srsly I don't think people realize how good the UPSB spinners are..outside of UPSB. Not many people outside of UPSB know people like teotoko, Simplex, Shadowserpant, etc..

i'm working on it D: give me some time

hoiboy

Date: Mon, Mar 29 2010 23:45:45

QUOTE (Kirby @ Mar 29 2010, 02:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

This is how I feel abou tthat particular Dongza vs. Fratleym battle in WT

Can someone give me the links of the two vids when they battled I can't find them!?

Also, I think that Olii is underrated I personally think he is one of the best overall spinners. he is very well rounded with his good power tircks, Nice creativity and ariels (the cobra bites especially). And he is smooth with good linkages. He has somewhat known, but doesn't get the fanboys and respect he deserves.

Seriously, work on your englishing skills.

I think Minwoo is overrated. He's good, but everyone makes him sound like a god.
A nice style + cool spin transfers = super badass, but he's not as good as all the hype proclaims him to be.

Wind

Date: Tue, Mar 30 2010 00:07:08

QUOTE (Kirby @ Mar 29 2010, 04:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

This is how I feel abou tthat particular Dongza vs. Fratleym battle in WT

Can someone give me the links of the two vids when they battled I can't find them!?

Also, I think that Olii is underrated I personally think he is one of the best overall spinners. he is very well rounded with his good power tircks, Nice creativity and ariels (the cobra bites especially). And he is smooth with good linkages. He has somewhat known, but doesn't get the fanboys and respect he deserves.

... I thought Fratelym battled minwoo and Dongza battled Answer both in round 4...

XYZakiãƒ¡AM

Date: Tue, Mar 30 2010 00:11:15

QUOTE (hoiboy @ Mar 28 2010, 06:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

overrated: peem
his spinning is rather... ugly.

It's not that peem is overrated, it's that you're sick of all the attention he gets.
With the skills that spinnerpeem has, he deserves all the attention he has received.

k-ryder

Date: Tue, Mar 30 2010 09:10:27

QUOTE (Frip @ Mar 30 2010, 06:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

No srsly I don't think people realize how good the UPSB spinners are..outside of UPSB. Not many people outside of UPSB know people like teotoko, Simplex, Shadowserpant, etc.. JEB is sort of automatically overrated since they get the most attention when it comes to collabs.

even i didn't know much about teo, or simplex
i did see some of shadow, but i didn't really realise how good he was, i just glazed over

but after seeing some of JC's vids, i realised they were all great spinners
i think i should start paying a bit more attention to the vids on UPSB....

Kirby

Date: Tue, Mar 30 2010 21:52:19

Underrated-Shadowsserpent (spelling?) He smoothness and style is amazing. He is one of UPSB's best but doesn't get hardly any credit out of UPSB (I know this was somewhat just previously stated)

phantoxic

Date: Tue, Mar 30 2010 22:51:38

QUOTE (Zombo @ Mar 29 2010, 04:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

agree 100% that supawit is underrated because of peem

I definitely agree.

I think supawit has got the same talent as peem.

Hippo2626

Date: Wed, Mar 31 2010 10:22:58

My opinion to the underrated UPSBians is that we need more collaborations. Even though we have tons of collaborations by individual people to showcase UPSB talent, its not like everyone is that popular. (No offense) I guess We need a more known collab like the awesome UPSB first. I was thinking that it should be made a annual thing to show some of our great but unknown talent. Just like JEB's winter collab!
What do you think?

Mats

Date: Wed, Mar 31 2010 12:32:49

QUOTE (Hippo2626 @ Mar 31 2010, 11:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

My opinion to the underrated UPSBians is that we need more collaborations. Even though we have tons of collaborations by individual people to showcase UPSB talent, its not like everyone is that popular. (No offense) I guess We need a more known collab like the awesome UPSB first. I was thinking that it should be made a annual thing to show some of our great but unknown talent. Just like JEB's winter collab!
What do you think?

I whole-heartedly agree that UPSB should have an official collab organised, by the admins and moderators, roughly once a year. The best on UPSB will be able to showcase their skills around the world. It might make UPSB more respected as a community too. Many of our best videos seem to be hidden away on UPSB (for example, those from the USPB tournament are unlikely to be seen by many) and not seen internationally.

Now, I really think that Zombo has too much to do already and we shouldn't pressure him to work on another collab. As for the moderators, of which there are far more (that is, than admins), I'm sure one or two of them could find the time for this project. The second problem, of course, would be participation. Would the best spinners on UPSB be up for this idea? Would videos get submitted?

Resonance

Date: Wed, Mar 31 2010 14:25:32

QUOTE (Mats @ Mar 31 2010, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I whole-heartedly agree that UPSB should have an official collab organised, by the admins and moderators, roughly once a year. The best on UPSB will be able to showcase their skills around the world. It might make UPSB more respected as a community too. Many of our best videos seem to be hidden away on UPSB (for example, those from the USPB tournament are unlikely to be seen by many) and not seen internationally.

Now, I really think that Zombo has too much to do already and we shouldn't pressure him to work on another collab. As for the moderators, of which there are far more (that is, than admins), I'm sure one or two of them could find the time for this project. The second problem, of course, would be participation. Would the best spinners on UPSB be up for this idea? Would videos get submitted?

If we want to showcase UPSBs spinners to other communities we can also do stuff like making a UPSB Tournament vid with all the vids from different rounds, and posting that on different boards, or similar stuff.

Zombo

Date: Wed, Mar 31 2010 14:56:00

upsb 2nd is already being organized
those with vault access know abt it

another underrated is gollumsk8, he's probably top 1-2 in fpsb but ppl only mention s777 pyralux frat
he's been spinning for a long time and he's still at the top that's amazing

phantoxic

Date: Wed, Mar 31 2010 17:23:15

QUOTE (Zombo @ Mar 31 2010, 10:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

another underrated is gollumsk8, he's probably top 1-2 in fpsb but ppl only mention s777 pyralux frat
he's been spinning for a long time and he's still at the top that's amazing

Agreed.

When i found gollumsk8, i was mindblown....

definitely underrated

Prince

Date: Wed, Mar 31 2010 20:28:15

QUOTE (Kirby @ Mar 30 2010, 10:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Underrated-Shadowsserpent (spelling?) He smoothness and style is amazing. He is one of UPSB's best but doesn't get hardly any credit out of UPSB (I know this was somewhat just previously stated)

Completely Agree. He is my favourite spinner next to s777, I love his style!! and he has incredddddible smoothness. Definately underrated

Hippo2626

Date: Fri, Apr 2 2010 06:43:21

Another very underrated spinner or person on UPSB is STRAT1227!!!!
He's is a pretty great spinner in my opinion even though it's hard to see with his bad angle videos and he has contributed so much to UPSB. He has not gotten the appreciation and recognition he deserves.

shonenbatman

Date: Fri, Apr 2 2010 07:10:40

uh.. i know i shouldn't be saying this, but an underrated spinner from JEB is slofis
some nice linkages here and there.. iono how else to describe him >_>
and speaking of nice linkages,
Jamie Enns

Zombo

Date: Fri, Apr 2 2010 12:33:35

Eng is another underrated spinner

the dude was a dominating force on the UPSB official battle circuit, yet nowadays he's rarely mentioned or even known.

JC

Date: Fri, Apr 2 2010 12:42:48

QUOTE (Zombo @ Apr 2 2010, 08:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Eng is another underrated spinner

the dude was a dominating force on the UPSB official battle circuit, yet nowadays he's rarely mentioned or even known.

agreed...since i've never heard of the guy xDD ahaha.. vids?

Zombo

Date: Fri, Apr 2 2010 13:25:34

towards the middle of the vid theres like 3 vids of him

Phya is also an underrated spinner but he contributed a lot, you can see him in the video also

Wind

Date: Fri, Apr 2 2010 14:40:02

I think that IVESOUND from PSUK is underrated.
He's an excellent spinner. Been spinning, but not as good as the WT/WC standards these days though.
Only reason he doesn't get alot of acknowledgment is I think that he's from PSUK and it's an inactive board so no one really pays attention to it.

Simplex

Date: Fri, Apr 2 2010 17:01:11

i agree with shonen. slofis = <3 and jamie enns has like super awesome links.

mm and i agree with zaki too i think one of the reasons people dont like peem is that he gets so much attention. but imo he desreves it...

and for me when i think thpsc i think supawit, 3D, and tigeroat first before peem :/

mm seven and kuzu imo arent over rated but for the same reasons as peem people dont like them :/

and imo there are many many pro jeb spinners and i i have no reason to belive people shouldnt flock to them :/

and as for fpsb spinners like pyralux and s777 imo they deserve the fans they get lolol i mean in like my opinion s777 is like one of the most talented geniuses in our psing world and pyralux is just <3

but i tihnk lindor should get a bit more attention. and freeman too lol

mm well as you can see i have no use for frammar or proper snetence construction.

iMatt

Date: Fri, Apr 2 2010 17:41:29

Under-rated:

Sangara: He's not active on the board, but he still puts out combos on his youtube channel. Focus on light spinning and heavy emphasis on difficult linkages while still very smooth. His stuff to me is some of the best spinning you could develop.

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Ponkotu: Pure and utter insanity. Need I say more?

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Over-rated:

Power-trick(ers). They all use busters and other heavy pen variations that get horribly repetitive and boring to watch visually. The tricks lose their appeal because of the emphasis on continuous variations and turn it into hand-spinning. It becomes mini-baton spinning vs actual pen-spinning. The linkages themselves break down in a sonic-rise and twisted sonic fall into a pass combo; THAT'S IT!

Prince

Date: Fri, Apr 2 2010 17:51:23

@imatt, I definately agree about sangara. wow, he reminds me a bit of s777 and I hadn't really seen much of him.

Jamie Enns

Date: Fri, Apr 2 2010 19:20:36

under: coco_A + river_K
over: pen cases

Hippo2626

Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 00:01:01

QUOTE (iMatt @ Apr 3 2010, 01:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Over-rated:
Power-trick(ers). They all use busters and other heavy pen variations that get horribly repetitive and boring to watch visually. The tricks lose their appeal because of the emphasis on continuous variations and turn it into hand-spinning. It becomes mini-baton spinning vs actual pen-spinning. The linkages themselves break down in a sonic-rise and twisted sonic fall into a pass combo; THAT'S IT!

Yea some one else agrees with me!
Another underrated spinner is Mystic. I think he should be known internationally because....

Chief_Snake

Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 00:43:51

QUOTE (Hippo2626 @ Apr 2 2010, 07:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Yea some one else agrees with me!
Another underrated spinner is Mystic. I think he should be known internationally because....

I love how you finish all your sentences with complete thoughts.

Simplex

Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 04:47:10

i have always loved sangara's spinning. so awesome. and his hair too

and lol i dont think ponkotu is very underrated. imo he is very popular. but idk tho he deserves more no matter how much xD i love him.

and mm mystic is yes underrated. and coca and riverk too

Hippo2626

Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 04:53:38

QUOTE (Chief_Snake @ Apr 3 2010, 08:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I love how you finish all your sentences with complete thoughts.

Thought it was obvious. He has a great balance of power tricks and other tricks in all his combos, great style, cool linkages, need I say more.
Another underrated spinner is SPRiNGFiELD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He can spin ambidextrously, he has a great style and his pretty good with power tricks. I guess it's hard to see all of that with his bad filming.

Tushix

Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 06:08:32

Talking on an international basis:

Over-rated:
Pen Cases

Under rated:

Supawit
Teotoko
Shonen
Baaron
Ponkotu

Kirby

Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 17:34:03

QUOTE (Tushix @ Apr 3 2010, 01:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Talking on an international basis:

Over-rated:
Pen Cases

Under rated:

Supawit
Teotoko
Shonen
Baaron
Ponkotu

I don't think Ponkotu is underrated. He is good, but he is well known and has alot of respect (which he deserves). good spinner with alot of respect.

Underrated: Vicgotgame. Amazing spinner, but I don't think he is very well known internationally. He has very good powertricks, and somtimes has nice linkages. I think he is one of the (if not the) best spinners in UPSB.

hoiboy

Date: Sat, Apr 3 2010 17:39:14

QUOTE (Kirby @ Apr 3 2010, 10:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Underrated: Vicgotgame. Amazing spinner, but I don't think he is very well known internationally.

hahahahaha

underrated: jamie enns
no one ever understands how hard his combos are. :/
and props for making your angle look good jamie

Hippo2626

Date: Thu, Apr 8 2010 12:35:11

I think LITS is another underrated spinner, His case is the same as shadowserpant and mystic.

tibirius

Date: Sat, Apr 10 2010 04:58:20

I think Kirua is another underrated spinner. His hybrids are just amazing but he doesnt get a lot attention since he quit being active in communitys but he still uploads some vids on youtube.

Nation

Date: Fri, Apr 16 2010 21:17:24

QUOTE (hoiboy @ Apr 3 2010, 12:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

hahahahaha

underrated: jamie enns
no one ever understands how hard his combos are. :/
and props for making your angle look good jamie

totally. Jamie is awesome, and his difficulty is just insane, but HE NEEDS A NEW ANGLE. D:
I think taht that's the reason he's so underrated.

Kirby

Date: Fri, Apr 16 2010 21:18:56

QUOTE (Nation @ Apr 16 2010, 04:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

totally. Jamie is awesome, and his difficulty is just insane, but HE NEEDS A NEW ANGLE. D:
I think taht that's the reason he's so underrated.

I think under exposure is the reason. Not his bad angle

Chief_Snake

Date: Fri, Apr 16 2010 21:36:29

I think his bad angle is what makes him rememberable.

xSpin

Date: Fri, Apr 16 2010 22:23:36

QUOTE (Nation @ Apr 16 2010, 02:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

but HE NEEDS A NEW ANGLE. D:

His angle is fine.

SJ

Date: Fri, Apr 16 2010 22:56:47

QUOTE (xSpin @ Apr 16 2010, 03:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

His angle is fine.

This man speaks truth.

mhig

Date: Sat, Apr 17 2010 04:03:09

underrated: AwonW

Lekunga

Date: Sat, Apr 17 2010 23:30:07

uiacnho_daod is underrated. Nobody knows him. Me neither.

No srsly, taichi is unterrated.
And Iris, ippei and coco_A.

And of course, I am underrated.

Kirby

Date: Sat, Apr 17 2010 23:36:59

QUOTE (Lekunga @ Apr 17 2010, 06:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

uiacnho_daod is underrated. Nobody knows him. Me neither.

Huh? If your saying you don't know him either, then how do you know he's underrated? If not, what are you trying to say?

shonenbatman

Date: Sun, Apr 18 2010 03:25:41

QUOTE (Kirby @ Apr 17 2010, 03:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Huh? If your saying you don't know him either, then how do you know he's underrated? If not, what are you trying to say?

he's being sarcastic..

Lekunga

Date: Mon, Apr 19 2010 16:25:16

Omg I forgot one:

DARCY !!?!

Absolutely underarated 8)

strat1227

Date: Mon, Apr 19 2010 18:29:39

Meh, i've always thought darcy was overrated

Tushix

Date: Mon, Apr 19 2010 19:53:12

QUOTE (strat1227 @ Apr 19 2010, 02:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Meh, i've always thought darcy was overrated

underrated:
Sunrise with his MX (I don't think many people know him like this)

Yosky

Date: Sat, Apr 24 2010 13:32:30

QUOTE (strat1227 @ Apr 20 2010, 06:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Meh, i've always thought darcy was overrated

Agreed, also TKspin =/

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