UPSB v3

Advanced Tricks / IndexMiddlearound

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  1. CalhounSpinner
    Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 00:30:14

    Wow, thanks. But, what's the IndexMiddleAround? huh.gif

  2. Look Into the Sun
    Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 00:40:27

    QUOTE (CalhounSpinner @ Dec 16 2007, 04:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Wow, thanks. But, what's the IndexMiddleAround? huh.gif


    Same concept as the indexpinkybackaround reverse, but instead of letting it spin across your whole hand and then catching it around the pinky, let it spin once on the top of your hand, and then catch it on slots 23.

  3. CalhounSpinner
    Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 00:54:09

    QUOTE (Look Into the Sun @ Dec 16 2007, 07:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Same concept as the indexpinkybackaround reverse, but instead of letting it spin across your whole hand and then catching it around the pinky, let it spin once on the top of your hand, and then catch it on slots 23.

    Do you think I could get some notation?

  4. sketching
    Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 01:24:01

    IndexMiddlearound Normal

    • Indexaround 12-23
    • Indexaround Normal 12-12[p][s 0.75] ~ Middlearound Normal 23-23[s 0.25][c]

  5. CalhounSpinner
    Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 01:31:47

    QUOTE (sketching @ Dec 16 2007, 08:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    IndexMiddlearound Normal
    • Indexaround 12-23
    • Indexaround Normal 12-12[p][s 0.75] ~ Middlearound Normal 23-23[s 0.25][c]

    Hmm, that's not like a Bak or Neo Bak fall, is it?

  6. sketching
    Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 01:38:12

    No. O_o
    It's an Indexaround, but you let the pen fall down to the 23 slot instead of the 12 slot. >_<

  7. CalhounSpinner
    Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 01:46:02

    QUOTE (sketching @ Dec 16 2007, 08:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    No. O_o
    It's an Indexaround, but you let the pen fall down to the 23 slot instead of the 12 slot. >_<

    OH! See, that's something that clarified a lot. THANKS! xD
    An IA is goes in the direction of a Bak Rev, right?

  8. sketching
    Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 01:49:53

    Yes, all Fingerarounds go in the same direction as Thumbaround.

  9. CalhounSpinner
    Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 01:56:22

    Thanks again for all of the help! ^^

    EDIT:
    Um, would this trick be best performed palm down? or palm vertical?

  10. Look Into the Sun
    Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 02:20:34

    QUOTE (CalhounSpinner @ Dec 16 2007, 05:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Thanks again for all of the help! ^^

    EDIT:
    Um, would this trick be best performed palm down? or palm vertical?


    Palm down.

  11. CalhounSpinner
    Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 02:22:49

    Should the movement after the IA .75 become almost "shadow-like" to slide into the 23 slot?

  12. sketching
    Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 02:47:12

    IndexMiddlearound is much more easily performed just like a regular Indexaround, just let the pen fall one more slot down. You as well just call it: Indexaround Normal 12-23.

  13. CalhounSpinner
    Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 02:49:21

    Thanks Sketch, can wait to see the vid. happy.gif

    EDIT:
    yeah, that was really clear.
    Somehow, Eriror is able to do it palm down. Any advice on that?

  14. sketching
    Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 02:54:06

    What Eriror does is not an IndexMiddlearound, it's the IndexPinkyBackaroundReversesomethingorother that is talked about in this thread.

    That hybrid is broken down as:
    (palm down) Indexaround Normal 12-12[p][s 1.0] ~ Devil's Shadow 12-34[s 1.0][c]

    He starts it off with a Twisted Sonic to gain momentum. Ask about that hybrid in the appropriate thread, not this one.

  15. CalhounSpinner
    Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 02:57:54

    Oh yeah, different trick, my bad. doh.gif

  16. sketching
    Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 03:10:26

    Going back to IndexMiddlearound, it would make more sense if that name went to a Middlearound that traveled around both the middle and index fingers... and it should be called MiddleIndexaround, since it starts and ends as a Middlearound:

    MiddleIndexaround 23-23

  17. DaThroat
    Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 03:40:35

    Palm Down IndexMiddleAround = IndexAround 12-12 ~> FL Shadow 12-23


    Think of TA Ext(not the one with Reverse Neosonic), but instead of from T1-12 slot, from 12-23 slot. tongue.gif


    Confusing? laugh.gif



  18. CalhounSpinner
    Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 04:07:55

    A bit. So, how many revolutions is that total?

  19. sketching
    Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 04:11:28

    ~1.5, since you change from a vertical position of the pen to a horizontal position, it's not exact.

    You can still perform the palm-down version like the palm-sideways version, with 1.0 rotation.

  20. DaThroat
    Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 07:41:01

    Ok, I decided to spend some time making a concept tutorial for this trick. laugh.gif



    Also shows how to do 'ThumbIndexMiddleAround', and a bonus idea for a combo finish. tongue.gif


    no special tips or whatever, just the concept. the rest of the learning is just your own plain practice.


    Link

  21. sketching
    Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 07:50:34

    All of the hybrids in your video have extra top spins to them, which would make them more than just around hybrids, you are bringing Shadows into the equation.

  22. DaThroat
    Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 07:56:08

    hmm... IndexMiddleBackAround Reverse? tongue.gif

  23. sketching
    Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 08:10:10

    No need to name those. The IndexMiddlearound that I talked about could just be written as Indexaround 12-23, it should be pretty obvious what that means. You hybrids combine Fingerarounds with Shadows and won't be easy to name, even unofficially.

  24. CalhounSpinner
    Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 23:33:45

    THANKS DT! That helped so much! laugh.gif