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Philosophy / Order of fundamentals

What defines you as a penspinner?

  1. sadi teh pirate
    Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 07:09:25

    In what order did u learn the 3 fundamental tricks (not including fingerpass) and do you think it affected the way you pen spin now?
    e.g. style?

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    -Charge
    -Sonic
    -(a lot more between these)
    -Thumbaround

    --I think that learning the Charge and Sonic, far before learning the thumbaround, made me into more of a pen spinner, who relies on harmonic tricks rather then combos. I also think it inspired me to learn with my left hand (simply because i couldnt learn thumbaround in left for some reason biggrin.gif ).

  2. sketching
    Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 07:27:17

    Moved to Philosophy, since it's more about wondering how the order effected you as a spinner.

  3. Zombo
    Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 07:30:07

    well there certainly have been discussions (inside the RD) about whether or not the actual learning order affects your pen spinning, can't say we have found anything conclusive yet.

    Nowadays there are so many info out there I don't think the order actually matters cuz you're gonna learn them all anyway in a small period of time. I think it only matters in the past, when you have a guy like David Weis who invented the backaround before learning the sonic (AFAIK), so of course all his videos revolve around that and it has affected his style...

    today... not so much. at least not when the question is limited to fundies.

  4. raelz
    Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 11:39:24

    Well after I learned charge, I finally found out how to do a PROPER sonic (not that one I was doing before heh). I don't see any more connections there

  5. Tim
    Date: Mon, Dec 17 2007 14:13:44

    The only thing that I can think of is that you may like a particular trick more learning first or after a long time practicing it. Your spinning might also change from being very good at a particular trick from knowing it for so long. I first learned the sonic, and I became really good at it, because even though I could do the thumbaround, it was harder, plus I didn't like it as much.

  6. -JC-
    Date: Tue, Dec 18 2007 01:04:39

    well when one is deciding whether to learn the thumb around first or the sonic first, one obviously chooses the one that appeals more to him/her (at least for me that's true)
    and so when you decide to learn the ta, then that means that your tricks'll be more predominant with around tricks rather than..conic (i think that's the right term) tricks like the sonic
    so yes, it definitely affects what type of spinner you end up becoming

    as for me, i didn't even know sonics existed when i was trying to learn the thumbaround...or else i would've definitely gone with learning the sonic first

    and although i will end up falling back on ta since i'm most comfortable with that trick seeing as how i've done it for so long now, before even realizing that other tricks existed, i do try my best to go for sonic variations whenever i can

    as for my order, ta>charge>sonic
    reason why i learned charge first even though i liked sonic more was just cause i read that learnign teh charge could help in learning the sonic happy.gif

  7. blugyblug
    Date: Tue, Dec 18 2007 07:19:04

    hmm..
    1.Charge
    2.Thumbaround
    Double Charge
    Index Around
    3.Sonic
    4. Finger Pass

    I dunno why my finger pass was after the double charge.

  8. -JC-
    Date: Tue, Dec 18 2007 20:58:55

    QUOTE (blugyblug @ Dec 18 2007, 02:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    hmm..
    1.Charge
    2.Thumbaround
    Double Charge
    Index Around
    3.Sonic
    4. Finger Pass

    I dunno why my finger pass was after the double charge.

    my finger pass was after a lot of stuff >.<
    i actually didn't add it in my small list in my previous post, so i'll just add it now...

    thumbaround
    charge
    thumbaround reverse
    sonic
    infinity
    index around
    shadow
    sonic reverse
    twisted sonic
    korean back
    weis backaround
    (maybe some more in between here)
    fingerpass

    my order may not exactly be that, but that order should be pretty close
    so i'm still working on smoothening my fingerpasses right now, but i don't find it to be odd that you learn it after double charge since i find getting a good fingerpass is really a hard thing to do

  9. Tofu
    Date: Fri, Jan 4 2008 03:50:37

    Thumb Around
    FIngerpass
    Fingerpass Rev
    Sonic
    Infinity
    Charge

    It took me a while to learn charge. happy.gif

  10. walkingjacket
    Date: Fri, Jan 4 2008 04:18:45

    Lessee...

    1 - Thumbaround
    2 - Sonic
    3 - Thumbaround Reverse
    4 - Charge
    5 - Sonic Reverse
    6 - Reverse Charge

    I don't really think the order you learn your tricks affect much, well I guess it does in the beginning, but once you move onto lots of different stuff and you've mastered most of the fundamentals, you can learn more advanced tricks in different orders. Rather than learning ones that seem more simple because you learnt a certain trick before another one.

    I guess it's all personal preference, like...

    You could have learnt sonic-based tricks, then learn around tricks and find you like around tricks more than sonic-based tricks, so you decide to become better with around tricks.

  11. Square
    Date: Fri, Jan 4 2008 04:26:32

    I've been doing finger passes all my life without knowing it had anything to do with any kind of pen spinning. lol.

    but... my order would have to be.

    1. Fingerpass
    & reverse

    2. Thumbaround

    3. Sonic
    & reverse

    Twisted Sonic

    4. Charge

    TA Rev

    Now I can do more than I can name at one time. ^.^

  12. Teddy
    Date: Fri, Jan 4 2008 04:47:20

    Thumbaround
    Sonic
    (Triangle Pass)
    (Scissor Spin)
    Charge

    i learned the charge in two days and it was the only trick i did all day every day for about two weeks

    i think that really affected the way i spin now

  13. Novastrike
    Date: Fri, Jan 4 2008 05:02:13

    I agree on you that charge is a very important fundamentals.
    I personally learn Thumb around and reverse first, then charges. So, I didn't even went through pressure method of a sonic.

    But I skipped fingerpass, stupid of me, now that I find that fingerpass actually is useful for combos(as most people will include that) so now I got to work on my fingerpass now... Gotten abit smooth so far...

  14. Sfsr
    Date: Fri, Jan 4 2008 19:51:44

    For some reason, I used to think that TA was the trick everyone started with (since that was the trick I learned first) and so that was the first thing I learned people. It affects to some extent I believe, what tricks you learn when, but not so much just the fundamentals.

    If you would start out with learning shadows on the other hand would make a bigger difference.


    More about trick learning order~

    Since I find charge-pass based combos sweet I try to get all new PSers I know to learn tricks like Twisted Sonic and all ASAP, and let them wait with Backaround and shit :> It's fun, cause I can to some extent decide what kind of penspinners they'll become in the future. I'll try to make someone learn regular arounds instead and see what happens...

  15. Look Into the Sun
    Date: Fri, Jan 4 2008 20:45:36

    QUOTE (Sfsr @ Jan 4 2008, 11:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    For some reason, I used to think that TA was the trick everyone started with (since that was the trick I learned first) and so that was the first thing I learned people. It affects to some extent I believe, what tricks you learn when, but not so much just the fundamentals.

    If you would start out with learning shadows on the other hand would make a bigger difference.


    More about trick learning order~

    Since I find charge-pass based combos sweet I try to get all new PSers I know to learn tricks like Twisted Sonic and all ASAP, and let them wait with Backaround and shit :> It's fun, cause I can to some extent decide what kind of penspinners they'll become in the future. I'll try to make someone learn regular arounds instead and see what happens...

    Sounds like your hosting some type of experiment and using humans as guinea pigs.

  16. Ste
    Date: Mon, Jan 7 2008 00:49:06

    1. Charge
    2. TA
    3. TA Rev
    4. Sonic
    5. Sonic Rev
    6. Charge Rev
    7. Fingerpass Rev
    8. Fingerpass

  17. toast
    Date: Mon, Jan 7 2008 00:49:28

    It obvious does affect the spinner.

    Look at the people Dathroat and Asian tim taught. They look like mirrors of their teachers!

  18. iMatt
    Date: Tue, Jan 8 2008 06:51:39

    learning order DEFINITELY effects the spinners own style. I developed odd tricks first and then learned fundamentals. The other part is what pen is used to learn them. I used a round #2 pencil until i discovered pen spinning. Mastering Tricks with an MX and a Dr. KT are completely different meanings, Unfortunately I went to using the Dr. KT too soon. Therefore my spinning style is much slower. There's a number of things that can really effect a spinner.

    my learning order

    1. Fingerpass
    2. Basketball Spin(IDK HOW..just did)
    3. TA
    4. Neo-Sonic
    5. Charge
    6. Sonic
    7. Sonic Rev
    8. Weissan Backaround
    9. Infinity
    10. twisted Sonic

  19. AntonWebsters
    Date: Tue, Jan 8 2008 07:41:33

    As for mine...

    1. Fingerpass T1 - 12 - 23 - 34 > Fingerpass rev 34 - 23 - 12 - T1 (I don't know what it's called,since it's not fingerpass normal nor fingerpass reverse)

    2. Thumbcharge rev T1

    3. TA

    4. Sonic

    5. TA reverse

    6. Sonic reverse

    7. Charge & Charge reverse

    8. Bak rev

    9. Bak

    10. Twisted Sonic

  20. cyshing
    Date: Tue, Jan 8 2008 09:22:33

    I think that is fingerpass harmonic...

    my order is
    1. fingerpass harmonic(as AntonWebsters described but did not went to T1)
    fingerpass normal and rev
    2. TA normal
    3. charges
    4. ta rev or sonic (they're learned in very small range time, forgot which is before which)

  21. Aphsamoth
    Date: Tue, Jan 8 2008 15:26:58

    Well, people who think the order how you learn the fundamentals affects your style will have to consider whether or not you are strong on the trick you learned first and similar tricks to it just because you learned it first.
    Not all of those who started penspinning earlier are good penspinners. I believe what affects your style mainly is how much you practice some particular tricks.

  22. ZaX
    Date: Tue, Jan 8 2008 15:55:43

    my order was like that:

    -Thumb around
    -fl TA

    Then i "official" started PS after one year only doing ta and fl ta

    ->

    -charge
    -tw sonic (PS: i had no idea how a sonic would work)
    -Sonic



    I think the learning order affects the style! I learned BA really late. . and i've never made a combo with it biggrin.gif

  23. penspinoob
    Date: Wed, Mar 26 2008 20:34:19

    my opinion is that it is better to learn the charges before start any kind of sonics.

  24. someone09
    Date: Wed, Mar 26 2008 22:26:06

    Charge Reverse
    Charge
    Sonic
    Sonic Reverse
    (Shadow)
    (Bak)
    Thumbaround
    Thumbaround Reverse

  25. 11Thrasher11
    Date: Thu, Mar 27 2008 00:20:12

    I learned the Sonic then Charge then Thumbaround. Don't think the order made any difference in how I'm a spinner today.

  26. Rio
    Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 04:29:01

    QUOTE (blugyblug @ Dec 18 2007, 03:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    hmm..
    1.Charge
    2.Thumbaround
    Double Charge
    Index Around
    3.Sonic
    4. Finger Pass

    I dunno why my finger pass was after the double charge.

    Not bad I learned these tricks first to most recent
    1. finger pass
    2. reverse pass
    3. sonic
    4. charge
    5. TA reverse
    6. sonic reverse
    7. TA
    8. continous
    9 Double sonic Thats what i call it when i do sonic with my pinky and ring finger then do the orginal way.
    10.TA more than 5 times with pencil mod

  27. B3ndythumbs
    Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 19:47:07

    1. Reverse FIngerpass (learned myself, thought was normal fp XD)
    2. Thumbaround
    3. Sonic
    4. Fingerpass
    5. Charge
    6. Reverse Thumbaround

    And then i learned a bunch of other 1s in between.

  28. carbon
    Date: Mon, Jul 28 2008 08:18:35

    thumbaround

    thumbaround reverse

    thumbaround harmonics

    sonic

    charge

    twisted sonic

    sonic reverse

    charge reverse

    double charge

    i noticed that after learning sonic, it was easier for me to learn charge. This also goes the same when i tried learning charge reverse, after learning sonic reverse. But even though i learned them quickly i still prefer practicing thumbaround related tricks since i started doing t-arounds when i was still in high school. I still think your style and performance is greatly affected with what tricks you like.

  29. Glamouraz
    Date: Wed, Sep 24 2008 13:41:08

    1 fingerpass and rev
    2 charge rev
    3 TA
    4 sonic
    5 charge rev
    6 TA rev
    7 TA harmonic
    8 sonic rev
    9 sonic harmonic

    I think this makes it easier for me to do fingerpass than other people and charge rev too. I'm having a little trouble with the charge and sonic rev though.

  30. Outsmash
    Date: Wed, Sep 24 2008 17:53:51

    I knew sonic clip before anything!!

  31. Mystic
    Date: Wed, Sep 24 2008 20:07:52

    I think it should be:

    1) ThumbAround
    2) Charge
    3) FingerPass
    4) Sonic
    5) Thumbaround Rev
    6) FingerPass Rev
    7) Charge Rev
    8) Sonic Rev

    Learn normal before any revs. Charge reverse helps you learn sonic rev a lot easier!

  32. Missle_Z
    Date: Thu, Sep 25 2008 00:56:32

    1. Fingerpass and rev
    2. Charge and rev
    3. Thumbaround and rev
    4. Sonic and rev

  33. j147l
    Date: Thu, Sep 25 2008 01:51:25

    I think the order should be:

    Thumbaround
    Charge
    Fingerpass
    Sonic

  34. shoeman6
    Date: Thu, Sep 25 2008 04:22:51

    I think people should learn the tricks by whatever trick interests them the most... and they find the most appealing and WANT to learn how to do... huh.gif

    But I learned them all at once =]

  35. Outsmash
    Date: Thu, Sep 25 2008 16:35:16

    QUOTE (shoeman6 @ Sep 25 2008, 09:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I think people should learn the tricks by whatever trick interests them the most... and they find the most appealing and WANT to learn how to do... huh.gif

    But I learned them all at once =]


    For some reason i think you cannot choose what fundies you wanna learn when you're a beginner. Fow most people i've seen they've just tried all the fundies and sen which one they get or they just choose TA cuz thats what they mostly see first when they google it or search it on youtube. and btw..you learnt all at once? how long did you take?

  36. FurBelz~
    Date: Thu, Sep 25 2008 22:12:09

    1) TA
    2) TA rev
    3) charge
    4) fingerpass
    5) fingerpass rev
    6) sonic
    7) sonic rev?
    8) charge rev?

    7 or 8... depending on which one is harder...
    harder stays behind =]

  37. shoeman6
    Date: Thu, Sep 25 2008 22:39:37

    QUOTE (Outsmash @ Sep 25 2008, 11:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    For some reason i think you cannot choose what fundies you wanna learn when you're a beginner. Fow most people i've seen they've just tried all the fundies and sen which one they get or they just choose TA cuz thats what they mostly see first when they google it or search it on youtube. and btw..you learnt all at once? how long did you take?

    Still learning them ;D I beleive all good penspinners should be in a process of constantly learning there tricks. If you took a picture of my Thumb arround today and then took another video in a few months you would see a diffference, Pen spinning is a constantly adapting thing, if you are a decent pen spinner you will always strive for that perfect most aestheticcly appealing thumb arround or charge =]

    But um, like physiccly being able to do all fundies, probably 5 months.

  38. Betakuwe
    Date: Fri, Sep 26 2008 15:36:53

    fingerpass
    sonic
    charge & thumbaround about the same time
    bak
    (something in between)
    cardioid
    blah blah blah...

  39. Heva
    Date: Fri, Nov 7 2008 08:47:15

    do reverses count?

    i learnt in this order:

    1. TA
    2. Sonic
    3. Charge Reverse
    4. Hell loads of things
    5. Sonic reverse
    6. TA reverse
    7. Charge



    ya i am strange to learn charge reverse before learning charge...and i like TA as it was the 1st trick i got introduced to by both internet and friends...i learnt the fundamental reverse only after i learnt things like Devil's around etc

  40. BeckWreck
    Date: Sat, Nov 8 2008 00:37:36

    charge

    index around[not a fundamental, i know]

    TA

    Fingerpass

    [insert lots of tricks here]

    sonic[just learned a week ago ^^]

  41. SJ.
    Date: Sun, Nov 9 2008 03:34:35

    QUOTE (Mystic @ Sep 24 2008, 12:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Learn normal before any revs. Charge reverse helps you learn sonic rev a lot easier!

    actually...i think trying to learn rev sonic helps learn rev charge

  42. flipside531
    Date: Sun, Nov 9 2008 04:52:23

    1. Infinity
    2. TA
    3. Charge
    4. Sonic
    5. TA Harmonic

    Its kinda weird i can do TA harmonic but i cant do TA reverse by itself huh.gif

  43. Fire Ant
    Date: Mon, Nov 24 2008 05:53:17

    I say learn finger pass first as thats very fundamental for future tricks. But I learnt in the order of charge, sonic, thumbaround.

  44. Janselmi
    Date: Mon, Nov 24 2008 19:57:08

    Im practicing

    TA & TA Rev
    FP & FP Rev

    so those four will be my first. biggrin.gif

    After those Im gonna start practicing Sonics

  45. Eric
    Date: Tue, Nov 25 2008 05:54:57

    1. Charge
    2. ThumbAround
    3. Fingerpass (Reverse)
    4. Sonic

    I learned Charge 12 when I was in 4th-5th grade, same with ThumbAround (6th-7th), and Fingerpass Reverse (7th), I taught myself all three. Sonic-- I learned it on YouTube after I started to spin seriously.

  46. pongpong
    Date: Tue, Nov 25 2008 11:43:53

    i started fingerpass after 8 months of penspinning, couldn't get bothered to master it, it was right after bakfall

  47. Jacobä
    Date: Tue, Nov 25 2008 13:29:17

    1. Charge
    2. Charge Reverse
    3. Thumbaround
    4. Sonic
    5. Sonic Reverse
    6. Thumbaround reverse

    I think that have influenced me in the very beginning, but the variety of mods i used as main (mx, kt, msxa, tombow, ballsign, ayatori...) have in the periods i used them influenced my style much more. Let's pick for example the msxa, it's the hell good to do arounds with it, but it sucks for sonic. Comssa is the opposite.

  48. cheesecake
    Date: Tue, Nov 25 2008 20:36:53

    I think

    TA
    TA reverse
    TA harmonic
    Charge
    Sonic
    fingerpass

    etc.

  49. OFFbI4
    Date: Fri, Nov 28 2008 23:32:27

    TA
    FingerPass (before a long time i had known about penspinning)
    Sonic
    Charge
    and reverses in the same order..

  50. JSH
    Date: Sat, Nov 29 2008 03:40:33

    Let's see...

    I think it was:

    Thumbaround
    Sonic
    Charge
    Fingerpass

    Not sure if the order influenced my spinning much though...

  51. GoldStars
    Date: Sat, Nov 29 2008 03:42:37

    For me

    Thumbaround
    Sonic
    (Other Stuff)
    Charge

  52. Janselmi
    Date: Mon, Dec 1 2008 04:50:59

    Ok

    FP & FP Rev

    TA & TA Rev

    Sonic

    Next is going to be Charge and Sonic Rev

  53. hillsongunited
    Date: Wed, Dec 3 2008 02:33:34

    uhh,
    Charge
    Thumbaround
    Sonic
    Fingerpass

    i like conic tricks, so kinda influenced....

  54. icepisces32
    Date: Sat, Dec 6 2008 08:22:40

    Uhm, as far as I remember,
    1.) Charge
    2.) Fingerpass + Rev
    3.) THumbaround
    4.) FL TA Rev
    5.) Indexaround + Rev
    6.) Sonic 23-12
    7.) Charge Rev
    8.) Sonic Rev
    9.) Sonic Rise n Fall
    10.) TA Rev
    11.) Aerials (Thumbsnap, Sonic Release, Kamehameha, Leigun)
    12.) Infinity + Ext. Infinity
    13.) Shadow
    14.) Twisted, Warped, Inverse, Demon's Sonic

    Yeah uhm, basically I spent little time with the sonic n rev (mastered: sonic-1 day, sonic rev-1 day, sonic 34-23- 1 day)
    I have no problem with the fundamentals except for the TA. I got the normal down, but I'm trying to learn the reverse. Until know, I can only manage a Ta harmonic 3.0.....

    I like learning the diff. variations of sonic. Theyreally look good. I'm having trouble with topspins though. I'm quite uncomfortable when the pen exits the hand (or not, if it's the Backaround) and spins w/o ur control...

  55. GSkyrunner
    Date: Sat, Dec 6 2008 18:17:30

    talking about fundamentals it was ....

    1.Fingerpass rev
    2.Fingerpass
    2.Sonic
    3.Thumbaround
    4.Charge rev
    5.Sonic rev
    6.Charge
    7.TA rev

    lolz TA rev was really hard at that moment haha

  56. blindwhatif
    Date: Thu, Dec 11 2008 04:27:08

    hmmm wow
    ive known the sonic since way before i even knew about pen spinning so yea
    1. sonic
    2. thumbaround
    3. charge - so hard to learn for me since ive been only doing sonics for like 3 years >.< haha
    4. fingerpass
    5. reverses of everything before number 4
    6. figure 8 (is this a fundamental? xD i think its easier than an infinity... )
    7. infinity

    and so on....

    yea ohmy.gif

  57. KhaDori
    Date: Tue, Dec 23 2008 17:03:14

    - fingerpass rev ilulzkn5.jpg
    - ta
    - sonic
    - charge
    - reverses. smile.gif

  58. paveu
    Date: Tue, Dec 23 2008 20:28:42

    -fingerpass
    -ta
    -sonic
    -charge
    of cuz whan i was learning the other fundamentals, i tried to hard in FP wink.gif

  59. westvirginia
    Date: Wed, Apr 15 2009 00:36:53

    my first one was finger pass i could do a finger pass before i even knew there was pen spinners out there.

    2. thumbaround

    3. charge.

    4. sonic

  60. PillarsOfValhalla
    Date: Wed, Apr 15 2009 00:42:06

    ThumbAround
    Charge (While attempting a Sonic)
    Sonic
    Fingerpass

  61. xLAMx
    Date: Wed, Apr 15 2009 06:03:11

    Actually my first trick wasn't a fundamental, it was a ex infinity, but then i learnt TA-Sonic-Charge.

  62. kenny158
    Date: Thu, Apr 16 2009 01:06:48

    Ahh.. i remember

    Charge Rev
    TA
    Charge
    Sonic
    Ta rev
    infinity
    sonic rev
    fingerpass normal
    fingerpass rev

  63. Gforce
    Date: Wed, Apr 22 2009 01:40:26

    1) started TA
    2)fingerpass
    3)charge
    4)sonic / rev. sonic
    5)twisted sonic
    6)finally mastered TA (FINALLY!)

    Thumbaround took me forever to master.

  64. Ktk
    Date: Wed, Apr 22 2009 01:47:26

    Fingerpass
    Fingerpass Reverse
    Thumbaround Reverse (inconsistent)
    ___________________
    *google penspinning*

    Thumbaround Normal (still struggling)
    Sonic
    Charge (only on light pens)

    I can't bring my hand to grasp the reverse charge or sonic.

  65. Joebob
    Date: Wed, Apr 22 2009 02:14:55

    -fingerpass
    -thumbaround
    (found out about penspinning)
    -charge
    -TA reverse
    -sonic

    ... i think huh(1).gif

  66. Savian
    Date: Wed, Apr 22 2009 08:40:11

    Sonic
    Charge
    Thumbaround
    Fingerpass

    Then I went onto shadows/arounds...

    I don't feel like learning it in that order did anything, since now I enjoy shadow and around spamming. The only way it impacted me is that I try to avoid using reverses now (I JUST learnt charge rev, trying to get it as good as charge normal)

  67. Chobi
    Date: Wed, Apr 29 2009 03:36:34

    Meh:

    Thumbaround
    Charge
    Sonic
    Twisted Sonic
    (some other stuff)
    Fingerpass

    biggrin.gif

  68. PSArcher
    Date: Wed, Apr 29 2009 06:01:56

    TA
    Charge
    Sonic
    Finger Pass

    Then started learning TW Sonic, Infinities, Shadows and other stuff.

  69. Dudak
    Date: Wed, Apr 29 2009 22:09:54

    1) Thumbaround
    2) Sonic
    3) Charge

  70. Randy_Chuggs
    Date: Thu, Apr 30 2009 06:50:04

    Infinity
    Charge
    TA
    TA Rev
    Sonic
    TW Sonic rev
    Fingerless TA
    Fingerless BA

    That's what I have learnt, and that's the chronological order I learnt it all in.

  71. Scream
    Date: Fri, May 1 2009 01:02:52

    -Charge
    -Sonic
    -Thumbaround

    Can't say how it's affected me, since I really haven't been spinning long enough to develop my own style. I'll get back to you on that.

  72. JSH
    Date: Fri, May 1 2009 01:14:02

    QUOTE (Randy_Chuggs @ Apr 30 2009, 02:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Infinity
    Charge
    TA
    TA Rev
    Sonic
    TW Sonic rev
    Fingerless TA
    Fingerless BA

    That's what I have learnt, and that's the chronological order I learnt it all in.


    Infinity is not a fundamental

    QUOTE (sketching @ Jun 13 2007, 05:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Is Infinity a Fundamental?
    No. Besides the relative complexity of that combo (3 tricks: Wiper Reverse, Pass Normal & Pass Reverse), Infinity has never officially been deemed a Fundamental. While it may be easier for some to learn than a few of the Fundamentals, the tricks involved in this combo are usually not thought to give as useful a base to a new user in terms of finger strength and agility. While the Wiper Reverse movement of the pen and the accompanying work of the fingers involved are different than any of the other movements of the Fundamentals, Wiper Normal and Wiper Reverse do not belong to a wide family of tricks, as are the Fundamentals.

  73. NoobishPenspinner
    Date: Fri, May 1 2009 01:46:37

    my fundamentals learning order

    1. charge
    2. thumbaround
    3. sonic
    4. fingerpass

  74. Lycrio
    Date: Fri, May 1 2009 03:08:22

    1.Fingerpass
    2.Thumbaround
    3.Charge
    4.Sonics


    These 3 is what made me what I am now.

  75. Shrouded Figure
    Date: Fri, May 1 2009 03:48:16

    1. TA
    ext ta
    2. Charge
    twisted sonic
    index around
    3. sonic
    double charge

  76. Pandubear
    Date: Thu, May 7 2009 04:14:20

    My order: (excluding the other tricks - I learned a lot of stuff between Sonic and its Reverse, and some other stuff between Sonic Reverse and Fingerpass. Lol. And my Fingerpass still sucks.)

    Thumbaround
    Charge
    Sonic (actually, I don't remember if I learned Charge or Sonic first, lol.)
    Sonic Reverse
    Fingerpass... kinda

    Um.