UPSB v3
General Discussion / World Cup 08 - First Round - RESULTS ARE OUT!
Discussion Thread
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Date: Sat, Jan 19 2008 20:19:28
OFFICIAL WEBSITE (CLICK)
LEADERBOARD
AFTER ROUND 1
FIRST ROUND VIDEOS & RESULTS:
GROUP 1, ROUND 1
GROUP 2, ROUND 1
DIRECT DOWNLOAD: Link | Info
GROUP 1 DETAILED LINEUPS
GROUP 2 DETAILED LINEUPS
UPSB Matches:
Eriror vs Ayatori (JEB)
TNC vs Golfzabemix (THPSC)
Scott Shaputis vs Minwoo (GPC)
Vicgotgame vs 12ve (PSH)
Group One:
Pserhome
GPC
Thaispinner
JEB
UPSB
Group Two:
Swespin
PPP
Penzone+KitCat
KPSA
FPSB
MANAGERS: ROUND 2 lineups are due February 26th.
VIDEOS HAVE A 25 SECONDS LIMIT
If you have any question, discussion, prediction, put it here. -
Date: Sat, Jan 19 2008 20:41:56
Send lineups via PM or to [email protected] ?
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Date: Sat, Jan 19 2008 20:42:30
i think he prefers e-mail.
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Date: Sun, Jan 20 2008 02:09:36
clarification for the knockout stages:
"During the semi-finals, the best team from the group 1 (1A) will fight the second best team from group 2 (2B) and vice versa (2A vs 1B)."
http://www.upsb.info/wiki/index.php/World_...at#Group_stages
This means that if UPSB were to advance to the semi-finals, we are guaranteed to fight a team from group 2, such as KPSA or FPSB. In addition, it is more advantageous to finish first in your group than second because you get to battle the weaker team from the other group. -
Date: Sun, Jan 20 2008 02:19:07
aw jebus we're in the same group as JEB?
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Date: Sun, Jan 20 2008 02:20:19
Well not as bad as round 2, the others are against KPSA and FPSB o.0
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Date: Sun, Jan 20 2008 02:26:06QUOTE (Crzyazn @ Jan 20 2008, 02:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>aw jebus we're in the same group as JEB?
So what? Top 2 go through and we can sure finish 2nd if we can't get 1st. JEB being in our group also means we can't see them again until the final
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Date: Sun, Jan 20 2008 02:33:45
It's just like.....they're right next to us.....breathing down our necks.....
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Date: Sun, Jan 20 2008 02:48:31
hehe Sfsr, are you probably like oh fuxx..
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Date: Sun, Jan 20 2008 03:45:21
unlucky,same group with psh and jeb
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Date: Sun, Jan 20 2008 05:23:26
Are you guys serious? You guys are UPSB... You can beat any team...
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Date: Sun, Jan 20 2008 05:25:41
we owned em before we can own em again, but im not sure about kpsa tho
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Date: Sun, Jan 20 2008 05:29:02QUOTE (sathonmig @ Jan 20 2008, 12:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Are you guys serious? You guys are UPSB... You can beat any team...
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/4048/wc08formatth1nx7.jpg
this image is wrong, in the semi-final, UPSB would be fighting either KPSA or FPSB, and JEB would fight the other one. -
Date: Sun, Jan 20 2008 05:34:17
did you draw that outa boredom?
and that reminds me..i have to get another scanner.. -
Date: Sun, Jan 20 2008 16:04:59
Whereto are we supposed to upload our videos? Putfile/YuoTube-like or Maegaupload and stuff?
QUOTE (NoRice4U @ Jan 20 2008, 03:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>hehe Sfsr, are you probably like oh fuxx..
Not really ^^ I mean, I think JEB has the best team, so I'm happy we're not with them. And we think we have a fair chance to beat the other teams atleast. Either we're over confident, or just plain stupid :D
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Date: Sun, Jan 20 2008 18:12:46
I would suggest not uploading your videos too soon so that nothing gets leaked.
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Date: Sun, Jan 20 2008 18:50:43
Yeah, but how does CrAsH want the videos? I doubt anyone has a video ready yet anyhow, I just want to know in what way he wants to receive them..
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Date: Sun, Jan 20 2008 19:22:05
Lol wth Zombo
Anyway thanks for pointing out the errors -
Date: Sun, Jan 20 2008 19:50:21QUOTE (Sfsr @ Jan 20 2008, 01:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Yeah, but how does CrAsH want the videos? I doubt anyone has a video ready yet anyhow, I just want to know in what way he wants to receive them..
ask him, i dont know, anyway it's in 3 weeks.
@sathon: you think I don't do research on my opponents?
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Date: Sun, Jan 20 2008 23:59:09
Hi Guys,
For Sfsr's question, if it is possible i would like the video's uploaded to youtube or putfile, and send me the link. If not then i will upload the videos witout a problem, so either send me a link or send me a video, either is fine. If you can please send it to my email, [email protected], if not pm is cool.
UPSB has an interesting group lol, from what ive been seeing of thaispinner, they are pretty impressive. UPSB, Thaispinner, JEB, should be very interesting lol.
Take care guys -
Date: Mon, Jan 21 2008 00:50:05
Ok just to make things clear:
I do NOT know who is in the picture on the world cup website! Stop asking me that! If Crash wants to answer this, he will. If not, then that person identity will remain a secret. -
Date: Mon, Jan 21 2008 01:04:23
LMAO! I was wondering that too! xD
So, will the videos be open for public view? -
Date: Mon, Jan 21 2008 01:28:09QUOTE (Xero @ Jan 21 2008, 01:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>LMAO! I was wondering that too! xD
So, will the videos be open for public view?
Of course the videos are going to be available for everyone to see... -
Date: Mon, Jan 21 2008 02:01:45
Will it be before or after the winners are named?
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Date: Mon, Jan 21 2008 02:36:04QUOTE (Xero @ Jan 20 2008, 09:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Will it be before or after the winners are named?
same thing as the world tournament, vids are posted, then judged. -
Date: Mon, Jan 21 2008 19:51:25
KTH asked me to be the manager of the KPSA team
please change it on the website! -
Date: Mon, Jan 21 2008 22:40:48
Hey nice one Joshy! Congrats man.
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Date: Tue, Jan 22 2008 02:09:50
I updated the KPSA page for you Joshy, i changed KTH's with your name in the managers section.
For that spinner photo, unfortunately i can't name either pen spinner, both of them have asked me to keep it secret. I will keep to my word so i won't say anything else about the photos.
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Date: Thu, Jan 24 2008 06:56:55
JEB (Japan)
Ayatori[ES]
Key3
Saizen
kUzu[ES]
Pesp[ES]
toro[ES]
Manager: Key3
What does the "[ES]" mean? -
Date: Thu, Jan 24 2008 09:04:39
It means they're in the "Evolving Spinners" team. Like Banz and Frat have xfs after their name, which means they're in Force Spinners.
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Date: Thu, Jan 24 2008 20:45:42
I used to have an idea who it might be, but that wouldn't make sense anymore.
Oh, by the way. Could I be named Erirornal Kraione instead of Eriror? Don't want to act dumb, but I've been trying to switch the last few months. =P -
Date: Thu, Jan 24 2008 20:49:34
But Eriror is shorter and cooler =(
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Date: Fri, Jan 25 2008 02:55:21
Hmm the World Cup Page isn't working...=/
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Date: Fri, Jan 25 2008 04:38:51QUOTE (Frip @ Jan 24 2008, 09:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hmm the World Cup Page isn't working...=/
works for me -
Date: Sat, Jan 26 2008 13:37:04
Hi Guys,
Ill sort your name out Eriror, ill change it sometime today.
By the way, wanted to let everybody know, we have an official sponsor for the world cup 08, they are a pretty big company, and they will sponsor the event, like providing prizes for the winning team, and makin the tournament more official. There is quiet a bit of media lined up for the event, so it's really good that it's becoming more official.
I will post up what prizes will be offerred for the winning team this evening when i post the line ups.
Take care -
Date: Sat, Jan 26 2008 17:32:59
Hi Guys,
Sorry about teh double post, just wanted to let you know the battles are up on the website, here is how round 1 for group 1 loks like:
Eriror vs Ayatori
TNC vs Golfzabemix
Scott Shaputis vs Minwoo
Vicgotgame vs 12ve
CNstar vs Key3
IceMt vs Dongza
PaleMaster vs McDudelsaeck
Mez v Alucard
Longhorn vs Toro
kuZu vs LeOn -
Date: Sat, Jan 26 2008 17:40:00
Really great battles. Can't wait....................
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Date: Sat, Jan 26 2008 18:15:05
GROUP 1: Detailed Lineups
UPSB
Eriror vs JEB (Ayatori)
TNC vs THPSC (Golfzabemix)
Scott Shaputis vs GPC (Minwoo)
Vicgotgame vs PSH (12ve)
Subs: Toast, DaThroat
JEB
Ayatori vs UPSB (Eriror)
Toro vs THPSC (Longhorn)
kUzu vs GPC (Le0n)
Key3 vs PSH (CNStar)
Subs: Saizen, Pesp
THPSC
Golfzabemix vs UPSB (TNC)
Longhorn vs JEB (Toro)
Mez vs GPC (Alucard)
Dongza vs PSH (IceMt)
Subs: MJ, Highwave
GPC
Minwoo vs UPSB (Scott Shaputis)
LeOn vs JEB (kUzu)
Alucard vs THPSC (Mez)
Stuhl vs PSH (Pale Master)
Subs: Maniok, Stuhl
PSH
12ve vs UPSB (Vicgotgame)
CNStar vs JEB (Key3)
IceMt vs THPSC (Dongza)
Pale Master vs GPC (McDudelsaeck)
Subs: Aces.H, Answer
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Wow, PSerhome has the worst matchups ever. -
Date: Sat, Jan 26 2008 18:27:51
GROUP 2: Detailed Lineups
KPSA
Nory vs FPSB (Banz)
Sound vs PZ/KCF (Meteor)
Xien vs PPP (Thelian)
Uriel vs SS (Sfsr)
Subs: KTH, Taeryong
FPSB
Banz vs KPSA (Nory)
s777 vs PZ/KCF (Hunlanlin)
Scouto vs PPP (Rarka)
Tikle vs SS (Alan)
Subs: -Six-, Lalalilalo
PZ/KCF
Meteor vs KPSA (Sound)
Hunlanlin vs FPSB (s777)
Deity vs PPP (Przemo)
Colour vs SS (Hamor)
Subs: CYL, Super-Duck
PPP
Thelian vs KPSA (Xien)
Rarka vs FPSB (Scouto)
Przemo vs PZ/KCF (Deity)
Gumix89 vs SS (Ceedgee)
Subs: Zaliwaja, Mikul
SS
Sfsr vs KPSA (Uriel)
Alan vs FPSB (Tikle)
Hamor vs PZ/KCF (Colour)
Ceedgee vs PPP (Gumix89)
Subs: Bävern, Pe/PDR
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This group has some fantastic matchups. I think KPSA won't have it that easy, FPSB has it tough, and SS has been relatively blessed with favourable matches. -
Date: Sat, Jan 26 2008 20:33:16
Don't forget:
VIDEOS HAVE A 25 SECONDS LIMIT -
Date: Sat, Jan 26 2008 21:04:33
OH IT'S ON!
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Date: Sat, Jan 26 2008 21:53:24
Ha, Eriror and Scott are going to destroy first round competition.
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Date: Sat, Jan 26 2008 22:19:00
Oh you know it!
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Date: Sat, Jan 26 2008 22:31:42QUOTE (Zombo @ Jan 26 2008, 07:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Scott Shaputis vs Minwoo
Uriel vs Sfsr
s777 vs Hunlanlin
Matches I'm looking forward to most ^^ -
Date: Sat, Jan 26 2008 23:04:40
T_N_C=win! and Sfsr vs. korea!
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Date: Tue, Jan 29 2008 07:51:14QUOTE (Zombo @ Jan 27 2008, 02:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>GROUP 1: Detailed Lineups
Wow, PSerhome has the worst matchups ever.
yep..
it seems that the other four managers all have read the ancient chinese story of 田忌赛马 .. -
Date: Wed, Jan 30 2008 05:19:41
Hopefully none of the matches are outright own
I want to see some awesome battles -
Date: Fri, Feb 1 2008 07:09:38
when and where can we see the videos guyz????....
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Date: Fri, Feb 1 2008 07:32:21
well.. the videos are due on the 9th of Feb. so i guess you'll be able to see them few days after that. and i think you can view them in the WT official website.
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Date: Tue, Feb 5 2008 10:43:31
Hm I have a question about the videoclips... can you edit the clips with flashes or fades ?
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Date: Wed, Feb 6 2008 09:43:10
i was in KPSA and i read a thread made by Sound. (who's in the KPSA WT team) It was about UPSB WT team members pros and cons. and it was kinda interesting so i've translate it to english. he gave comment on 3 things tricks, style, overall.
TNC:
trick: can do a lot of tricks. he can use arounds with all fingers.. freely.
style: doesn't have a distinctive style.
overall can't think of anymore pros but to mention 1 cons is that he doesn't have a distinctive style.
Dathroat:
trick: performs nice aerials with alot of interesting trick.
style: it reminds people of Bonkura alot. Nice Style
overall: due to the 'Bonkura Style(?)' his speed isn't that fast. the length limit is 25sec and he may not be able to show off all his 'cool' tricks in the time limit. he may fall just like bonkura did in 2007 WT for this reason.
Eriror: (2nd in 07 WT)
trick: as the 2nd place in the WT last year, he can use both his hand freely without any problem. he has a trick he uses alot but he uses it too fast to identify it. cool trick.
style: has he's own style. Style that isn't really 'special', but something that is hard to copy. when doing aerials at the end or doing a hard trick in the middle of a combo, its often not jumpy(?)
overall: he's smoothness is like a water stream(constant). one bad thing is that he's video are too long. even though hes combo is often 'jumpy,' the hardness of his combo and the smoothness covers that bit up.
Scott Shaputis: (he used an old vid of Scott to comment him, he said that he couldn't find other vids)
trick: he uses all the tricks he can really well. but doesn't have a lot of tricks he can do
style: hard to give comment by just using one video
overall: hard to give comment by just using one video
Toast:
trick: in the beginning of the vid, didn't know why a person like this was in the team, but towards the end he's combos were getting better but he's trick still wasn't that good. wouldn't call him a pro but wouldn't call him a noob.
style: normal but interesting.
overall: can tell that he practiced alot. connecting tricks after aerials are smooth. makes mistake sometimes.
Vicgotgame
trick: strong at neobak
style: has he's own style but its kinda similar to frat's style
overall: looking forward to see he's video in 08 WT. lack of video, won't comment much.
its just based on few videos Sound saw, don't take every word for truth. sorry for some bad translation.
PS: i'm not a member of KPSA i'm a member of upsb, i just go to KPSA like once a week to see soething useful. -
Date: Wed, Feb 6 2008 12:57:12QUOTE (Ã…lan @ Feb 5 2008, 05:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hm I have a question about the videoclips... can you edit the clips with flashes or fades ?
Or is it against the rules ?
you can't enhance or affect the spinning in any way.
you can add editing before or after the combo.
adding editing won't give you any mark.
it also won't take off any mark if you don't affect the spinning.
the editing counts inside the 25 seconds limit.
lol @Sound, he doesn't know our team much. -
Date: Wed, Feb 6 2008 13:01:52
Sound is all wrong.
He's gonna GET SERVED.
Hell yeah.
Then F***** in the A -
Date: Wed, Feb 6 2008 20:15:50QUOTE (WhiteFang @ Feb 6 2008, 10:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Eriror: (2nd in 07 WT)
trick: as the 2nd place in the WT last year, he can use both his hand freely without any problem. he has a trick he uses alot but he uses it too fast to identify it. cool trick.
style: has he's own style. Style that isn't really 'special', but something that is hard to copy. when doing aerials at the end or doing a hard trick in the middle of a combo, its often not jumpy(?)
overall: he's smoothness is like a water stream(constant). one bad thing is that he's video are too long. even though hes combo is often 'jumpy,' the hardness of his combo and the smoothness covers that bit up.
He knows me too well.
"cool trick" [IPBA rev] - Thanks. I worked hard on it. -
Date: Thu, Feb 7 2008 03:24:20
Lol now whatever posted on other boards are being spied on.
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Date: Fri, Feb 8 2008 18:03:15
1 substitutions to report.
Mcdudelsaeck OUT, Stuhl IN, in the battle vs PaleMaster in group 1.
Reason: Personal/Family issues.Uriel OUT, Taeryong IN, in the battle vs Sfsr in group 2.Uriel handed in video.
Reason: Holiday trip, no camera. -
Date: Fri, Feb 8 2008 23:54:59QUOTE (Zombo @ Feb 9 2008, 05:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>2 substitutions to report.
Uriel OUT, Taeryong IN, in the battle vs Sfsr in group 2.
Reason: Holiday trip, no camera.
wrong. Uriel IN, Taeryong SUB, in the battle vs Sfsr in group -
Date: Sat, Feb 9 2008 00:27:07QUOTE (WhiteFang @ Feb 8 2008, 06:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>wrong. Uriel IN, Taeryong SUB, in the battle vs Sfsr in group
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uriel is the one was ALREADY IN. therefore he is now OUT and replaced by taeryong, who is now IN. -
Date: Sat, Feb 9 2008 00:40:55
what the shit? I thought TNC said he was korean style lol. and @Pearl: maybe a fuck in the ass from scott
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Date: Sat, Feb 9 2008 01:15:51QUOTE (NoRice4U @ Feb 8 2008, 07:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>what the shit? I thought TNC said he was korean style lol. and @Pearl: maybe a fuck in the ass from scott
your argument is weak, distinctive doesn't mean recognizable, it means unique. -
Date: Sat, Feb 9 2008 01:25:52
disregrard the uriel substitution, uriel has sent his video!!! yay!
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Date: Sat, Feb 9 2008 02:28:03
yea.. Uriel + Tearyong sent their vids in around the same time. and Joshy decide to use Uriel's vid. i think it was cause tearyong had a short time to make the video..
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Date: Sat, Feb 9 2008 02:32:29QUOTE (WhiteFang @ Feb 8 2008, 09:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>yea.. Uriel + Tearyong sent their vids in around the same time. and Joshy decide to use Uriel's vid. i think it was cause tearyong had a short time to make the video..
uhh no.
uriel was scheduled to fight sfsr.
if uriel turned in a video, you MUST use his video.
Crash has the right to refuse substitutions which are not necessary. If Uriel has a video ready, then of course it's not a necessary substitution.
Using substitution to get the better video is considered CHEATING. That is not a valid reason to substitute. -
Date: Sat, Feb 9 2008 04:33:27
Feb the 9th...
Deadline is today before midnight am I right? Or is it tomorrow before midnight? -
Date: Sat, Feb 9 2008 04:51:41QUOTE (Erirornal K. @ Feb 6 2008, 03:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>"cool trick" [IPBA rev] - Thanks. I worked hard on it.
You know what that means now, right, Eriror?
Show them up. Destroy them. Leave them speechless.
WRECK THESE FOOLS FROM ALL OVER THE GLOBE.
You can do it, man! One at a time, Eriror.
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Date: Sun, Feb 10 2008 00:06:37
PSerHome didn't submit any videos, and are disqualified from further participation.
Longhorn from ThaiSpinners didn't submit a video either. -
Date: Sun, Feb 10 2008 00:18:52
I hate pen spinners.
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Date: Sun, Feb 10 2008 00:33:12
well that sucks. Instant win for me.
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Date: Sun, Feb 10 2008 01:49:25QUOTE (Erirornal K. @ Feb 9 2008, 07:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>PSerHome didn't submit any videos, and are disqualified from further participation.
Longhorn from ThaiSpinners didn't submit a video either.
not yet, pserhome is being contacted right now, we'll see how the situation fares tomrrow mornign.
i dont know about longhorn though.
let's wait until Crash updates the website to know what's going on. -
Date: Sun, Feb 10 2008 10:05:08
Hi Guys,
Sorry about the delay in the video uploads, i was given many video files so i had to spend a long time getting everything uploaded yesterday night, so i've just updated teh website now. You can all see the videos:
Group 1, Round 1: http://www.alexsimpsononline.com/roundone.html
Group 2, Round 1: http://www.alexsimpsononline.com/tworoundone.html
I will post up the winners of the battles next sunday 17th February.
Take care,
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Date: Sun, Feb 10 2008 10:08:15
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Date: Sun, Feb 10 2008 10:10:49
can you change the color of the text link in ur page?
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Date: Sun, Feb 10 2008 10:15:20
CNstar is officially added to my list of favorite spinners. WOW.
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Date: Sun, Feb 10 2008 10:53:24
man i messed up big time... ._. had such a nice combo.. nothing worked ~> freestyle ~.~ thats why i hate battles.
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Date: Sun, Feb 10 2008 11:12:33
It is very hard very slowly to watch,maybe this thing only appear in China area,but it affect so many psers.why not upload on youtube? http://www.putfile.com is so bad.we cant bear its quality ，in the other hand. sometime it cut some pser's wonderful ending so we cant see the whole combo such as meteor 's combo.the ending is ex ta>fl ta>fl ta>fl ta but cut into ex ta>flta.
so we call for other way to watch .
Could crash give a download link aboat all the great clip?
Sorry for my impertinence . -
Date: Sun, Feb 10 2008 11:15:04
yeah..crash should view it on youtube...i hate putfile..
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Date: Sun, Feb 10 2008 11:32:04QUOTE (ellusion67 @ Feb 10 2008, 12:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>yeah..crash should view it on youtube...i hate putfile..
Second that!
Btw, Swespin's videos will be uploaded on thier SweSpin account on youtube during the day.
So far two of 'em(Ceedgees and Hamors) is uploaded.
http://www.youtube.com/SweSpin -
Date: Sun, Feb 10 2008 11:52:57
Hi Guys,
Yeah im sorry about putfile, i noticed a few people had some problems with it. Unfortunately youtube takes ages for the video to get uploaded and loaded up, and when you put many videos up at the same time it takes days to load up fully, so thats the reason why i put it on putfie because it's fast to upload. If anybody wants to give me youtube links or other streaming sites i don't mind replacing the links.
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Date: Sun, Feb 10 2008 12:00:11QUOTE (CrAsH @ Feb 10 2008, 07:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hi Guys,
Yeah im sorry about putfile, i noticed a few people had some problems with it. Unfortunately youtube takes ages for the video to get uploaded and loaded up, and when you put many videos up at the same time it takes days to load up fully, so thats the reason why i put it on putfie because it's fast to upload. If anybody wants to give me youtube links or other streaming sites i don't mind replacing the links.
Thanks
Thanks for your time,CrAsh。
How could we download the clips? -
Date: Sun, Feb 10 2008 12:00:14
My breakdown, for the interested persons who requested by MSN.
Twisted Sonic 34-23 --> MiddleAround Reverse 23-23 --> Pass 23-34 --> Sonic 34-23 ~> IndexMiddleAround Reverse 24-24 --> Inverse Sonic 24-12 ~> IndexAround 14-12 --> Twisted Sonic Reverse 12-23 --> Devil's Around 23-23 --> Pass 23-34 --> Twisted Sonic 34-23 --> ThumbAround T23-T1 --> ThumbAround Reverse T1-T12 --> Pass 23-12 --> BackAround ~ Fingerless ThumbAround Reverse T1-T12 --> IndexAround Reverse 12-12 --> Pass 12-23-12 --> BackAround 12-12 ~> Figure 8 Reverse T1 --> Wiper T1-T1 ~> Pass T1-34 --> Moonwalk Sonic Reverse 34-23 ~> Pass Reverse 24-12 --> Twisted Sonic Reverse 12-23 ~ MiddleBackAround 23-T1 ~ Fingerless ThumbAround Reverse T1-T12 --> Inverse Demon's Sonic Reverse 12-34 --> Twisted Sonic 34-23 --> Pass Reverse 23-34 --> Charge Reverse 34 ~> Pass 34-23 --> Shadow 23-34 --> Pass 34-23 --> Twisted Sonic Bust 23-12 --> Shadow 12-13-23 --> Twisted Sonic 23-12 --> IndexPinkyBackAround Reverse 2.0 12-34 --> Demon's Sonic 34-12 --> Pass Reverse 12-24 --> MiddleAround 24-24 --> Pass Reverse 24-12-T1 --> Shadow T1-12 --> Extended ThumbAround T12-12 --> BackAround Reverse 12-12 --> Extended ThumbAround T12-12 --> BackAround Reverse Release 12-12 -
Date: Sun, Feb 10 2008 12:11:01
@Eriror: !! Hehehe. Nice!
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Date: Sun, Feb 10 2008 12:56:29
Amazing battles. Out standing combos:
Ayatori, TNC, CNstar, IceMt, s777, Sfsr.
GG. -
Date: Sun, Feb 10 2008 13:19:30
Eriror and Scott Shaputis are really good, both fluid and make the moves perfectly. I don't know why Scott was saying he sucked last night, but he doesn't. Nice music Sfsr, I laughed. Oh- and you were good too!
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Date: Sun, Feb 10 2008 13:30:42
omg putfile is down
Please upload it to Youtube/Dailymotion/Stage6
edit: Putfile is working again -
Date: Sun, Feb 10 2008 13:53:42
Videos are up!!!
FIRST ROUND VIDEOS:
GROUP 1, ROUND 1
GROUP 2, ROUND 1
DIRECT DOWNLOAD:
UPSB VIDEOS
KPSA, JEB, FPSB, GPC, PZKCF VIDEOS
PSERHOME VIDEOS
Not all videos have direct download, but all those on putfile do!!!
Alex will ask all judges to vote based on the downloadable files, not the putfile! -
Date: Sun, Feb 10 2008 14:36:09
wtf the PPP members are teh great i dindt expect that O_o and s777... no comment^^
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Date: Sun, Feb 10 2008 14:59:22
Hi ，CrAsh，please help PSH to change the putfile link to youtube,thank you.
12ve: http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=X0cR5aBERnI
CNstar: http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=jbQW4V_SCXc
Pale Master: http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIKfEkzLWMY
IceMt: http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=sQ2I4jOtALI -
Date: Sun, Feb 10 2008 16:00:06
mine too
here's my video link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFLil4-flXU
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Date: Sun, Feb 10 2008 16:07:32
lol, so many videos don't work for me.. D:
Well, to say that I am surprised would be an understatement.
I had trouble watching videos on putfile, and even with the sharebee downloads, they wouldn't play on my media players.
However, I watched all of the UPSB videos, which is good enough for me. Wow, scott you have improved..I'm definetely the sub now...but sort of afraid to participate lol
everyone has gotten so good! I can't really judge but, I'm sure those comments on youtube are false predictions. you should be a very big challenge for minwoo. (couldn't watch his video)
Eriror, i talked about it on MSN. you never cease to impress me. I watched ayatori's video (albeit a bit choppy, but smoother than the other ones) and I think you won. Don't let the comments on youtube get to you. Unless I missed something in the low framerate of putfile, there was a lot of content packed into that video, and you should win. (at least for technical skill)
I've always thought you were under credited for your abilities. The ariels were just great, and the ending was swell. I can't perdict because Golfza's video isn't working for me -_______-;
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Date: Sun, Feb 10 2008 16:57:14
toast you need Xvid, try using VLC player
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Date: Sun, Feb 10 2008 17:05:25
Our team is gonna own! Once again Eriror's combo was just, just I don't even have a word for it hah. I'd say we got the first round win.
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Date: Sun, Feb 10 2008 17:35:12
I'll upload the videos so they can be downloaded asap and post up a link here, and send it to CrAsH.
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Date: Sun, Feb 10 2008 17:57:02
Sathon and Przemo (or any polish), can you do it for your team too? thanks. (give a download link to all videos)
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Date: Sun, Feb 10 2008 18:05:17
I'm collecting videos, I'll post them in few hours
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Date: Sun, Feb 10 2008 20:42:07
SweSpin WC:08 R1 downloadable videos
SweSpin WC:08 R1 YouTube videos -
Date: Sun, Feb 10 2008 23:29:55
What the FUCK ?
s777 =| -
Date: Mon, Feb 11 2008 00:02:25
Hey guys/girls,
I've compiled all the videos into one, easy-to-download, archive. HIGH QUALITY VIDEOS.
I've tagged each battle with a number, which I call the battle ID. Each video also contains in its filename the ID of the battle it belongs to, for quick lookup and ease of use.
The videos are regrouped by teams and are located in seperate directories. Each team directory has the list of all battle IDs this team is involved in in its name for reference.
The information about each battle is detailed in a text file for each group.
The file is ~90mb.
You need DivX and XviD to view the .avi videos. Look for those codecs.
Enjoy.
DOWNLOAD LINK -
Date: Mon, Feb 11 2008 00:47:43QUOTE (Pearl @ Feb 10 2008, 03:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>What the FUCK ?
s777 =|
bakfall....
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2.5?!
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Date: Mon, Feb 11 2008 02:35:20QUOTE (Crzyazn @ Feb 10 2008, 07:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>bakfall....
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2.5?!
you know what would be awesome?
alternating bakfall 1.0-1.5-2.0-2.5, where the first one is 1.0 and the last one (pinky) is 2.5
that would show a tremendous amount of pen control.
and you have to get those rotations right (can't do the last one 3.0 or something) otherwise it shows you don't control the exact rotation of the spin.
the alternating modifer is one I coined for interchanging between tricks or rotations in continuous tricks, but in this case it also applies even if there is no repetition involved.
a harder one would be
alternating bakfall 1.0-2.0-4.0-8.0 (<-- I call it "Power 2 Bakfall")
a funnier one would be
the FIBONACCI BAKFALL 1.0-1.0-2.0-3.0 ----> BACK OF HAND TRANSFER ---> BAKFALL 5.0-8.0-13.0-21.0 --> CONTINUE etc... *HEAD EXPLODES*
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Date: Mon, Feb 11 2008 04:01:46
aw, man... the videos are as good as ever....
UPSB ftw
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Date: Mon, Feb 11 2008 05:23:01
Zombo
I don't have all the download links atm. Can't be tonight. I'll get them and send to you as soon as I can. -
Date: Tue, Feb 12 2008 03:56:08
Key3 is crazy... i love JEB
when is judging? -
Date: Tue, Feb 12 2008 09:14:02
who is judging?
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Date: Tue, Feb 12 2008 09:58:09
Secret
Judges have 'till Saturday, so the results will be released either on Saturday evening or Sunday morning (GMT). -
Date: Tue, Feb 12 2008 10:00:44
wha..what? the judges meant to be secret? how the fuck do i know one of the judges..?
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Date: Tue, Feb 12 2008 12:20:05
I'm glad I wasn't put in for the first round. I would have gotten owned like free.
*trains anxiously for second round* -
Date: Tue, Feb 12 2008 13:51:40
Nah, don't say that throat
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Date: Wed, Feb 13 2008 03:12:24
NEW LINK!!!
All Round 1 videos in *HIGH-QUALITY*.
The videos that are affected are from the teams: KPSA, FPSB, PZKC, GPC and JEB.
The videos look much much clearer, this is a recommended re-download if you have the other archive already!
http://sharebee.com/5f51831e
I will make another reupload once I get the high-quality videos from THPSC and Thelian from PPP! -
Date: Wed, Feb 13 2008 17:12:25
Can you upload those two solely as well? Don't feel like downloading the whole batch twice.
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Date: Wed, Feb 13 2008 19:09:06
hmm sorry, but yet another new link :/
It seems that I received the wrong video for 12ve (different from the one uploaded on putfile), so I changed that.
I've also added high quality versions of the THPSC videos.
This is the new link for the COMPLETE archive in high quality: http://sharebee.com/110b9cd8
This is the link for only the THPSC + 12ve videos: http://sharebee.com/ec371e2a -
Date: Thu, Feb 14 2008 00:23:29QUOTE (Zombo @ Feb 13 2008, 11:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>hmm sorry, but yet another new link :/
It seems that I received the wrong video for 12ve (different from the one uploaded on putfile), so I changed that.
I've also added high quality versions of the THPSC videos.
This is the new link for the COMPLETE archive in high quality: http://sharebee.com/110b9cd8
This is the link for only the THPSC + 12ve videos: http://sharebee.com/ec371e2a
Thanks a bunch. -
Date: Fri, Feb 15 2008 05:25:52
I think Round 1's best video goes to s777.....looks even more godly in high quality
Every combo is just....WOW anyway -
Date: Sat, Feb 16 2008 22:42:29QUOTE (WhiteFang @ Feb 12 2008, 10:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>wha..what? the judges meant to be secret? how the fuck do i know one of the judges..?
Hey WhiteFang, Yeah the judges names are secret, they've asked me not to reveal their names for obvious reasons so im keeping to my word for them.
Results should be out quiet soon, im just waiting for 2 judges results at the moment, so should be up quiet soon.
Take care
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Date: Sat, Feb 16 2008 22:59:32
ok. then how many judges are there? is there one judge for one
teamboard??
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Date: Tue, Feb 19 2008 01:48:46
Hi Guys,
Im so sorry about the delay, i moved house yesterday, so i wans't able to get the results uploaded. I've just uploaded the results about 5 min ago, here are the links:
Group 1: http://www.alexsimpsononline.com/roundone.html
Group 2: http://www.alexsimpsononline.com/tworoundone.html
Take care,
CrAsH -
Date: Tue, Feb 19 2008 01:57:19
Yay ThaiSpinner got the two win I expected
Dongza and Mez pwn big time lol
Longhorn and Golf got a tough spot.
KPSA got no win? That's unheard of.
The world turned upside down. Omg...
UPSB got three win. I think you all got an easy clean win.
Scott's vid is really good but he got a close one.
Oh well very nice round overall. Good job all that participated.
Edit- Wow PPP
I'm really impressed.
GREAT JOB guys! -
Date: Tue, Feb 19 2008 02:00:27
Yo guys.....
We got 3 winners....Eriror beat Ayatori...just WOWWWWWWWWWWWWW
Scott...try ur best next time...you met a powerful monster 1st round...T.T
KPSA got no win....OMG........
Swespin got 4 winners....that's rock point...T.T
Good luck you all next round.... -
Date: Tue, Feb 19 2008 02:03:54
Group One
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UPSB - 3
GPC - 2
JEB - 2
Thaispinner - 2
PSERHOME - 1
Group Two
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SweSpin - 4
PPP - 3
FPSB - 2
PZKC - 1
KPSA - 0
Big congrats to everyone who won, and an even bigger to PPP =) -
Date: Tue, Feb 19 2008 02:04:31
We almost got all our team through, good battles guys!
We shall do it again in around 2.
It's time to DU-DU-DU-DU-DUAL!
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Date: Tue, Feb 19 2008 02:05:28
nice job UPSB and SweSpin!
Scott, dont take it to hard, your really good. -
Date: Tue, Feb 19 2008 02:05:52
woot congrats evryone
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Date: Tue, Feb 19 2008 02:21:45
Truly, I wasn't surprised kpsa lost. Their videos weren't as good as those they were going up against. I thought nory would have won though -- gotta love the bak revs -- but banz did have his nifty aerials going on.
Go UPSB! We're doing great. -
Date: Tue, Feb 19 2008 02:35:55
Damn, KPSA didn't win any of their matches?
GPC, JEB, and Thaispinner tied for second?
and Swespin victory was unexpected. xD
Anyways, Good Job everyone! Round 2 will be even more epic.
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Date: Tue, Feb 19 2008 02:59:52
Nice!
GO UPSB!!
Looks like Eriror had nothing to worry about after all, beat ayatori =P. T_N_C... Was no surprise, his combo was just too good.
Wow, Swespin's really good. Sfsr is leading a strong team =O. -
Date: Tue, Feb 19 2008 03:24:47
Very nice turn out for UPSB.
I'm really not surprised KPSA lost all their matches. Banz took down so many people in the WT so his win wasn't a surprise.
Great job everyone, UPSB will sweep the next round. -
Date: Tue, Feb 19 2008 03:38:53QUOTE (NiGHTSora @ Feb 18 2008, 08:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Swespin victory was unexpected. xD
don't say that, i loved all of swespins stuff, sfsr's was tight
i'm only mad that Key3 lost, because he is my fav... but CNstar is sick
congrats everyone!!!!!!
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Date: Tue, Feb 19 2008 03:43:07QUOTE (Jamie Enns @ Feb 18 2008, 08:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>don't say that, i loved all of swespins stuff, sfsr's was tight
i'm only mad that Key3 lost, because he is my fav... but CNstar is sick
congrats everyone!!!!!!
I liked Swespin stuff too, I just didn't expect them to win ALL their matches. xD
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Date: Tue, Feb 19 2008 04:15:22
Wow, KPSA got no victories! Perhaps they were acting arrogant and not sending their best videos.
Go UPSB! -
Date: Tue, Feb 19 2008 06:23:59
Some unexpected results but good job UPSB, SS and PPP.
SS's spinners have dominating smoothness that just owns. Maybe we'll see them in the finals eh?
FPSB probably would have faired better if they had Fratleym in the line up. Too bad.
PPP Good job, great spinners, Rarka owned!
KPSA I thought their combos were boring >.> Yeah Nory did sick conts, but that's it...he didn't do anything else, that can't win a fight, especially against someone as kick ass as Banz. Didn't expect 0 wins but that's what you get with those combos.
Way to go, 2nd round will be very important, but this time we'll have DaThroat as well ;P -
Date: Tue, Feb 19 2008 07:03:07
woot go UPSB
KPSA..0? wow.. something isn't right..
GJ sfsr!! -
Date: Tue, Feb 19 2008 08:23:16
I'm shocked.
KPSA won't be happy though :( -
Date: Tue, Feb 19 2008 10:24:52
OMG, surprising results...
Big congratz to SweSpin team! Good job, you rule!
KPSA's tactics sucks, PPP FTW!
Gratz to Scouto, hard battle. -
Date: Tue, Feb 19 2008 10:40:54
Man.... with such good results, I hope not to screw up the 2nd Round.
The standard has been set by the guys in the first round, and it is HIGH.
GO UPSB! -
Date: Tue, Feb 19 2008 10:59:46
wow..upsb got a big winner..but key3 lost??weird..anyway..GO UPSB!!!
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Date: Tue, Feb 19 2008 12:20:24
Hwow! goddamn what a match.
I didn't expect that we in swespin would win the whole thing! =D
I'm really glad.. hope next round will be great as this round was. -
Date: Tue, Feb 19 2008 12:51:12
The result is very good very strong very humourous very harmonious。
Hi， CrAsh，you should make the judgement standard to the view so we are more receptive to such an outcome。 -
Date: Tue, Feb 19 2008 13:35:36
Group 1 results for me are pretty expected.
I'm satisfied with the 3 wins. Scott, don't let that loss affect you. Minwoo came out of nowhere and turned out a video that's in the top 5 of the first round, GPC really caught me with a good matchup. I just didn't know they had someone of that skill in their lineup, my bad.
For instance, I think I could have moved TNC to fight GPC and Scott to THPSC and I might have won all 4.
The palemaster vs stuhl batter could have gone either way, but I favored PSH.
Not surprised with CNStar winning, his video was great.
Group 2 results are a surprise for me.
I know KPSA didn't perform at their highest level, but I think they did enough to win at least 2 out of 4. I think Xien and Uriel did enough to win, but it could have gone either way, they got unlucky.
For all intent and purpose, they're eliminated from the World Cup. They NEED 4 wins in Round 2, and even if they do, they must pray that the 3 out of the 4 teams in front of them don't exceed a cumulative 4-4 record, and even then they must hope that they win it in the tiebreaker. It's just not gonna happen. I think what's even more disappointing for them is that they didn't even play KTH and Taeryong in the first round... looks like they really needed all their big guns to win. But now it's too late.
SS winning all 4 is very surprising. I felt that they didn't have the best videos out there, but were beneficiary of some very good matchups and took advantage of it.
I had them winning only 1 battle, but Sfsr, Ceedgee and Alan matches could have gone either way. They're now in very good shape to make the semis. I suppose it was excellent managing to be able to get the matchups just right so that you win them all barely. One managing mistake could have cost one or two matches.
PPP winning is really not surprising. I had them winning 3 as well. I thought they were only a 2-men team (Rarka and Przemo) but they proved to me that they had excellent depth and this is what pulled them through.
On the contrary, PZKCF really lacks any depth. Their level drops so much after Meteor and Hunlanlin that they could only hope to win 2. Furthermore, Hunlanlin was fighting the best video of the first round, so they really had no chance to win more... They are also practically eliminated.
I had FPSB winning 3, but the difference is the Tikle/Alan match which I felt should have gone to Tikle. Still, with 2 wins, they are in decent shape to make it through the next round but they MUST win both their battles against SS and PPP.
I actually like our 3-1 record better than 4-0. It means that we're in a good shape to continue, but we're not there yet and must work hard. It'll make our spinners more focused and produce better videos. 4-0 would have made them cocky. Plus we have 3 teams with 2-2 right at our tail, we can't let up.
Managers, don't forget to submit your lineup to Crash for Round 2. Deadline is Saturday February 23. -
Date: Tue, Feb 19 2008 13:41:36
Leader Board
Group One
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UPSB - 3-0-1: 9 pts
GPC - 2-0-2: 6 pts
JEB - 2-0-2: 6 pts
Thaispinner - 2-0-2: 6 pts
PSERHOME - 1-0-3 : 3 pts
Group Two
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SweSpin - 4-0-0: 12 pts
PPP - 3-0-1: 9 pts
FPSB - 2-0-2: 6 pts
PZKC - 1-0-3: 3 pts
KPSA - 0-0-4: 0 pts
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Date: Tue, Feb 19 2008 14:26:29
A-w-e-s-o-m-e. Cant find words...
But pls, stop say SS. It's "SweSpin" or "swespin". We're not nazi's. -
Date: Tue, Feb 19 2008 14:38:55
the judging standard plz?
just find the results a little unacceptable. -
Date: Tue, Feb 19 2008 15:06:32QUOTE (Hamor @ Feb 19 2008, 03:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>But pls, stop say SS. It's "SweSpin" or "swespin". We're not nazi's.
It's the only abbreviation of SweSpin we have, and people are lazy :P
@ Zombo, I think we had a mix of the following:
- excellent managing (lol :D actually the "managing" has been handled just as much by the other 3 members participating in this round as by me)
- underestimation from the other teams
- awesome penspinners
- good luck
Which results in 4/4 wins. Now to the upcoming problem; round 2. -
Date: Tue, Feb 19 2008 15:08:45
really suprised that SS can winning all 4....
congrat to UPSB! -
Date: Tue, Feb 19 2008 17:01:00
@ Zombo: Saying SweSpin only won thanks to fortunate match ups is very rude of you. People have underestimated SweSpin, as usual, and they paid for it.
To quote the world tournament video I made last year when all SweSpinners except me got knocked out the first round due to very questionable judging:
"Beware of next year. Because we can't wait to get our revenge" -
Date: Tue, Feb 19 2008 20:23:39
WTF
KPSA should have won at least 2 matches
XIEN should have won and NORY should have won with banz delay in jumping tricks in the end should have taken off points vs. norys conts.
and I say XIENs combo was better be cause he had more diffcult tricks in his come than Thelian and Thelian
had a lttile delay in Middle finger around or whatever it is called he just did easy tricks fast
vs Xien little slower than Thelian but had difficult moves
results are unacceptable
koreans are says "this is like PS olympic when Micheal (or someone) won the freestyle with a handspin which had lots of delays"
This is not just unlucky in judging, judges are bribed or something -
Date: Tue, Feb 19 2008 20:27:21
Joshy, with all due respect, smoothness isn't the only factor in penspinning. It weighs as much as difficulty, creativity, and all other kinds of stuff. To say someone should have won just because he had a small mistake in a middlearound just doesn't cut it when he's slightly superior in other sections. I understand what you mean, but please. Don't start a war over this. I was surprised as well, man. =/
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Date: Tue, Feb 19 2008 20:38:47
now i know why the judges didnt want to get known by everyone
everything is relative. i think we dont have bad judges >.>. why should crash (or zombo) take people who dont know how to judge for a tournament like this?
maybe times have changed. it isnt anymore this "speed/difficult" spinning which owns.
i'm really surprised that i won. but a lot of people say, that it's legitimated.
so, like eriror said, creativity is today as much as difficulty or smoothness.
there are just too much spinners who do always the same tricks (difficult and smooth) but without creativity.
i love norys spinning. he absolutely has stlye. his tricks are difficult. but that's it. they are difficult... anything else? no, he's always doing the same.
banz was just very very creativ. maybe his aerials werent perfect all the time... maybe there was a break in the ending... but its just innovativ! these things will give PS a special progress. new tricks!
.too much words.
(just to let you know: i also would have prefered Nory. i just like him and his busts/conts :/) -
Date: Tue, Feb 19 2008 21:02:38QUOTE (DasIstJaStuhl @ Feb 19 2008, 12:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>now i know why the judges didnt want to get known by everyone
everything is relative. i think we dont have bad judges >.>. why should crash (or zombo) take people who dont know how to judge for a tournament like this?
maybe times have changed. it isnt anymore this "speed/difficult" spinning which owns.
i'm really surprised that i won. but a lot of people say, that it's legitimated.
so, like eriror said, creativity is today as much as difficulty or smoothness.
there are just too much spinners who do always the same tricks (difficult and smooth) but without creativity.
i love norys spinning. he absolutely has stlye. his tricks are difficult. but that's it. they are difficult... anything else? no, he's always doing the same.
banz was just very very creativ. maybe his aerials werent perfect all the time... maybe there was a break in the ending... but its just innovativ! these things will give PS a special progress. new tricks!
.too much words.
(just to let you know: i also would have prefered Nory. i just like him and his busts/conts :/)
Yeah, I would have gone with Nory too. Those conts are difficult -- tougher than aerials imo. Banz does rock though, can't wait for him to use his multiple spin tricks.
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Date: Tue, Feb 19 2008 21:06:16
the problem with banz is...
his camera -.-
i really, really would LOVE it to see his spinning with a really good cam quali and a background which is suitable for is red pen
well it got better (in the past i really wasnt able to see his pen with this ugly grey background), but it's just not enough for his skill! -
Date: Tue, Feb 19 2008 21:08:13
Why whine over the results? Nothing yoou can change anyway. Apparently you (KPSA) were not good enough.
I think you should talk it over on your board before you blame the judges.
Have a nice day
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Date: Tue, Feb 19 2008 21:34:20
KPSA obviously took these losses hard. But they are kind of a relatively isolated board, and thus they have their own image of "perfect" combos.
Sure, some of the decisions are controversial, but judges are judges. -
Date: Tue, Feb 19 2008 22:49:43QUOTE (Yiep @ Feb 19 2008, 12:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>@ Zombo: Saying SweSpin only won thanks to fortunate match ups is very rude of you. People have underestimated SweSpin, as usual, and they paid for it.
To quote the world tournament video I made last year when all SweSpinners except me got knocked out the first round due to very questionable judging:
"Beware of next year. Because we can't wait to get our revenge"
hey man, I was actually complementing SweSpin, no need to act aggressive. I said you guys took advantage of the situation, you actually stepped up and showed what you can do. Don't take it the wrong way. If you didn't understand, I'm actually saying the same thing as you; they gave you fortunate matchups because they underestimated you and you maid them pay, like you said.
BTW about the fortunate matchups part, that's not me saying it. It's an actual quote from Sfsr in the PS Magazine.
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I think KPSA could have won 2 battles too, but it really could have gone either way and you'd have people complain about it. -
Date: Wed, Feb 20 2008 00:30:46
KPSA!!!1
..... they didn't do so well....... *sniff*Nory*sniff*
Man, UPSB is ready to kick some more butt next round
Go! UPSB!
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Date: Wed, Feb 20 2008 01:58:05
i dont know whether to be mad or happy for eriror's win. i wanted to see more of ayatori lol.
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Date: Wed, Feb 20 2008 02:00:36QUOTE (Dynamik @ Feb 19 2008, 08:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i dont know whether to be mad or happy for eriror's win. i wanted to see more of ayatori lol.
and why wouldn't you? just cuz he lost doesn't mean he's eliminated.
damnit people, read the rules! http://www.upsb.info/wiki/index.php/World_Cup_format -
Date: Wed, Feb 20 2008 02:08:28 Those who underestimated swespin were wrong but next round with TaeRyong and KTH back...
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Date: Wed, Feb 20 2008 08:02:14QUOTEThis is not just unlucky in judging, judges are bribed or something
dude..don't state things you don't know about. you honestly believe the judges are bribed? is there any proof? People don't even know who the judges are.. its kinda hard to bribe them if you don't even know who they are.. -
Date: Wed, Feb 20 2008 08:32:44
Well, the results were certainly a bit unexpected, I'll admit.
I think overall the level of difficulty, smoothness, creativity, and presentation have all gone up, and it's great to see the boundaries of PS being pushed. You are all winners in my opinion.
Obviously, nobody likes losing, and there will always be questions that would be raised regarding the results, but please let's not turn this into a war.
I think the surprising outcome of this first round is due to the new format of competition (in which you can't just win by treating it like a 1 vs 1 tournament). I'm sure some teams underestimated the importance of this, while others put them to full use.
But the controversy is probably caused because of the unclear judging criteria. Perhaps if they were to be disclosed, people would know what areas they might be lacking in, and can prepare differently for the next round.
Again, I really enjoyed watching all the videos, and hope we can all discuss things in a mature manner to keep thing from turning ugly.
Kam -
Date: Wed, Feb 20 2008 08:47:35
Awesome, UPSB are in with a really great chance!
Keep up the good work all the UPSB guys!!!
Oh and well done the other boards that did well like such as Swespin, but I gotta support UPSB you know... -
Date: Wed, Feb 20 2008 08:58:33QUOTE (Yiep @ Feb 19 2008, 06:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>@ Zombo: Saying SweSpin only won thanks to fortunate match ups is very rude of you. People have underestimated SweSpin, as usual, and they paid for it.QUOTE (Zombo @ Feb 19 2008, 11:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>BTW about the fortunate matchups part, that's not me saying it. It's an actual quote from Sfsr in the PS Magazine.Actually, that was a reference to what you wrote in this thread.QUOTE (Zombo @ Jan 26 2008, 07:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>...and SS has been relatively blessed with favourable matches.I do agree that SS got fortunate match ups though, I wouldn't have had a chance against Nory or KTH. Uriel atleast gave me a shot. The only thing is that you make it sound as if that's the only reason we won (both here and on the IRC-chat), which it isn't.QUOTE (Yiep @ Feb 19 2008, 06:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>To quote the world tournament video I made last year when all SweSpinners except me got knocked out the first round due to very questionable judging:You try to start a fight where there's none needed, Yiep :/ The very questionable judging you speak of was just bad luck. I mean, most of us couldn't have won those matches anyway. That's how we saw it last year too.
"Beware of next year. Because we can't wait to get our revenge"QUOTE (Joshy @ Feb 19 2008, 09:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>This is not just unlucky in judging, judges are bribed or somethingAre you aware of how the judging works? There is one judge from each board. The judges from group 1 judge the videos in group 2, and vice versa. Based on the criteria here on UPSB (I think in the wiki?), they decide who they think had a better video. This means 5 votes / battle, so most of the results with KPSA involved were probably 2 - 3 in the other teams favor. That there is one judge from each board also means there is a person from KPSA. I expect you trust that person, and so you should also trust the judges from other boards.QUOTE (Nyberg @ Feb 19 2008, 10:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Why whine over the results? Nothing yoou can change anyway. Apparently you (KPSA) were not good enough.There's no need for them to blame anything on the judges (since there's nothing to blame) but neither is there need for you to state that KPSA isn't good enough. Anyone from the team would normally have owned me, had they not saved KTH and TaeRyong they would've owned me, but now they chose Uriel and I at least got a chance to win.
I think you should talk it over on your board before you blame the judges.
Have a nice dayQUOTE (Zombo @ Feb 19 2008, 11:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I think KPSA could have won 2 battles too, but it really could have gone either way and you'd have people complain about it.Exactly, and so do I believe that SS could've lost all battles just as well. I was thinking about that a few days ago, that we would've been judged losses in all matches and that now other SweSpinners would be here complaining about it, rather than Joshy complaining about KPSAs losses ^^
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Date: Wed, Feb 20 2008 09:37:19QUOTE (Sfsr @ Feb 20 2008, 09:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The only thing is that you make it sound as if that's the only reason we won (both here and on the IRC-chat), which it isn't.
That's my point.
You make PPPs and FPSBs winnings sound very decerved, while SweSpin just won thanks to luck.
QUOTE (Sfsr @ Feb 20 2008, 09:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>You try to start a fight where there's none needed, Yiep :/ The very questionable judging you speak of was just bad luck. I mean, most of us couldn't have won those matches anyway. That's how we saw it last year too.
Actually, that wasnt adressed to anyone. Just a little reminder to who got the bad luck last year. -
Date: Wed, Feb 20 2008 12:48:38QUOTE (Yiep @ Feb 20 2008, 04:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>That's my point.
You make PPPs and FPSBs winnings sound very decerved, while SweSpin just won thanks to luck.
Actually, that wasnt adressed to anyone. Just a little reminder to who got the bad luck last year.
sorry man, I focused on talking about matchups because this is what I'm the most interested. I designed this format with the intention that excellent managing and strategy/tactics would be rewarded with good results. Because if you really think about it, that's the difference between a team game and an individual game, plus the fact that team spirit and morale affects the performance of the players. SweSpin is the best example of this in the first round so I'm proud that the format is working well.
Obviously you guys did a good job with the actual videos too.
All I'm saying is that your managing gave you favorable matchups. If you didn't go with exactly this lineup, you might have lost a few matches. -
Date: Wed, Feb 20 2008 13:17:44QUOTE (Joshy @ Feb 19 2008, 08:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>WTF
KPSA should have won at least 2 matches
XIEN should have won and NORY should have won with banz delay in jumping tricks in the end should have taken off points vs. norys conts.
and I say XIENs combo was better be cause he had more diffcult tricks in his come than Thelian and Thelian
had a lttile delay in Middle finger around or whatever it is called he just did easy tricks fast
vs Xien little slower than Thelian but had difficult moves
results are unacceptable
koreans are says "this is like PS olympic when Micheal (or someone) won the freestyle with a handspin which had lots of delays"
This is not just unlucky in judging, judges are bribed or something
Hi Joshy,
Im sorry about the outcome, but i can assure you the judges were selected because they can and are able to judge because they are good pen spinners themselves. I was supprised about the kpsa results but i respect the judges opinions and their judging. The judging was made using the criteria on the upsb wiki.
I've spoken to the kpsa team members and i sorted it out with them. Nory was telling me they just have to try harder in the next round. He was telling me they will have to use their best 4 spinners if the next round if they want to have a chance in progressing.
Good luck guys,
By the way, line ups for the 2nd round are due in for Tuesday 26th February, so next week on tuesday.
Thanks,
CrAsHQUOTE (Dynamik @ Feb 20 2008, 01:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i dont know whether to be mad or happy for eriror's win. i wanted to see more of ayatori lol.
I thought Ayatori's video is really good, not sure why you wanted to see more lol, i thought it had all the ingredients a spinning video should have, smooth, fast, creative, style etc. Well there is always round 2 so we can see what everybody produces, should be interesting
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Date: Wed, Feb 20 2008 13:32:02QUOTE (Zombo @ Feb 20 2008, 01:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>sorry man, I focused on talking about matchups because this is what I'm the most interested. I designed this format with the intention that excellent managing and strategy/tactics would be rewarded with good results. Because if you really think about it, that's the difference between a team game and an individual game, plus the fact that team spirit and morale affects the performance of the players. SweSpin is the best example of this in the first round so I'm proud that the format is working well.
Obviously you guys did a good job with the actual videos too.
All I'm saying is that your managing gave you favorable matchups. If you didn't go with exactly this lineup, you might have lost a few matches.
Thanks for clearing that up. Sound alot better now. Since you are the central figure around here people will act like you do, and I'd rather not see people interpret your previous post as "SweSpin only won due to luck"
Oh and by the way (sorry, offtopic, just want to clear things up), you PMed Ceedgee and said I banned you from our IRC channel for no reason. Not entirely true. The only time you wrote in the channel was to promote your radio shows. That would get you kickbanned from most other IRC channels aswell. So I banned you for a month. -
Date: Wed, Feb 20 2008 16:57:40
The analysis of Zombo is reasonable and convincing.
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Date: Wed, Feb 20 2008 17:42:00QUOTE (Yiep @ Feb 20 2008, 08:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Thanks for clearing that up. Sound alot better now. Since you are the central figure around here people will act like you do, and I'd rather not see people interpret your previous post as "SweSpin only won due to luck"
Oh and by the way (sorry, offtopic, just want to clear things up), you PMed Ceedgee and said I banned you from our IRC channel for no reason. Not entirely true. The only time you wrote in the channel was to promote your radio shows. That would get you kickbanned from most other IRC channels aswell. So I banned you for a month.
well you never told me directly why so uhhh yeah but I kinda knew it was that
btw how can "Favourable matchups" be only about luck? It has elements of luck but it's also about skill. If it was only about luck, then there would be no point in managing! If getting favourable matchups is just about luck, we might as well randomize all the matchups like in the World Tournament.
The point of doing management is to minimize the effect of luck, so that the teams feel like they have some control over the matchups. Clearly management has an impact on the game, which is why it benefited SweSpin and affected KPSA.
Never once did I even mentionned SweSpin got lucky. I said they got favourable matchups, which is a combination of luck and good management. It's not totally luck. -
Date: Fri, Feb 22 2008 00:04:59
FINAL Version of the Archive for round 1, including Thelian's high quality video!!
http://rapidshare.com/files/92425111/Thelian_PPP.avi.html -- Only Thelian's video
http://sharebee.com/368ee3a9 -- ALL -
Date: Fri, Feb 22 2008 00:53:12
Are there comments on each event, or is it just a win or lose thing?
Like, is there a place we can fiund comments from judges on each battle? -
Date: Mon, Feb 25 2008 03:40:21
reminder: lineups due Tuesday 26
I think crash has received UPSB, SweSpin, PSHome and possibly more so far. -
Date: Fri, Feb 29 2008 00:00:46
new topic for round 2: http://www.upsb.info/forum/index.php?showtopic=4228
use this thread to continue discussion on round 1 ONLY