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Philosophy / No Pen in penspinning?

  1. sadi teh pirate
    Date: Fri, Jan 25 2008 05:37:26

    I was not sure whether to put this in philosophy, general or pen modifications, but considering its a discussion upon whether or not it relates to penspinning, i thought it belonged in philosophy.

    Q: it has been discussed, whether or not a pen is a pen if it cant write, and it has been discussed whether or not a pen is a pen, or should be spun if it has been "modified"; it seems apparent that it mostly depends upon personal opinion. I am wondering, that if an object, that has no relevance to a pen or pencil, is able to spin (for example, a metal stick that uses no pen or pencil parts, but is still able to be spun), would it be considered "Pen Spinning" to spin in?

    A: plz discuss

  2. K4S
    Date: Fri, Jan 25 2008 05:52:07

    If you do a TA with a drumstick you're just applying concepts of penspinning to spinning the drumstick. It wouldn't be called pen spinning.

  3. MinorThreat
    Date: Fri, Jan 25 2008 06:35:35


    TIME PARADOX!!111!!!ONE

  4. -JC-
    Date: Fri, Jan 25 2008 08:27:07

    QUOTE (MinorThreat @ Jan 25 2008, 01:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    http://www.rosetti.co.uk/promark/pics/accessories/pen.jpg
    TIME PARADOX!!111!!!ONE

    20.gif what would you call somethign like that...
    it looks like it's the size of a pen..but shaped like a drumstick/pen and probably could still be used as a drumstick...

    godd...sometimes i wonder where you guys find all these kind of wierd pen pictures xD

  5. blugyblug
    Date: Fri, Jan 25 2008 08:37:43

    There has been like 3 threads on this... Im afraid its gonna get locked
    Heres the link to another one

    Unwritable Pen

  6. Teddy
    Date: Sun, Jan 27 2008 17:14:06

    isn't there already a thread for this?

  7. 11Thrasher11
    Date: Sun, Jan 27 2008 17:49:19

    Spinning a metal stick I'd say is still pen spinning since it is based off of pen spinning tricks. Also there is already a thread about this.

  8. TayYH89
    Date: Mon, Jan 28 2008 02:36:24

    QUOTE (sadi teh pirate @ Jan 25 2008, 01:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I am wondering, that if an object, that has no relevance to a pen or pencil, is able to spin (for example, a metal stick that uses no pen or pencil parts, but is still able to be spun), would it be considered "Pen Spinning" to spin in?

    I guess many of you still didn't read the entire post.

    Given my "well-known" position on the various "pen" discussion, you should know what my reply would be.
    Pen spinning should be done with a pen. Period. Given the amount of similarities of our hobby with other forms of manipulation like baton twirling and drum stick spinning, it would be common for these different forms of manipulation to cross reference each other for inspirations and tricks. Would these cross references then be still called baton twirling, if the tricks originated from the baton twirling?

  9. Sfsr
    Date: Mon, Jan 28 2008 13:40:27

    What defines a pen?

    - it's ability to write

    If I took a metal pipe, and added an ink tube to it. Would it count as a pen? Imo not.
    If I took a working pen, and removed the ink tube from it. Would it still count as a pen? Imo yes.

  10. TayYH89
    Date: Tue, Jan 29 2008 02:32:18

    I'll define the first object as a pen if it's fully capable of writing.

  11. â–¡â–¡â–¡
    Date: Tue, Jan 29 2008 02:39:18

    Pen -noun

    1. any of various instruments for writing or drawing with ink or a similar substance.
    2.     a detachable metal penpoint, filled by dipping or with a quill; nib.
    3. such a penpoint with its penholder.
    4.     fountain pen.
    5.     ball-point pen.
    6.     the pen as the instrument of writing or authorship: The pen is mightier than the sword.
    7. a person's style or quality of writing: He writes with a witty, incisive pen.
    8.     a writer: I leave this story to abler pens.
    9.     the profession of writing: a master of the pen.
    10.     stylus (def. 3).
    11.     Ornithology. a. a quill. b. a pinfeather.
    12.     something resembling or suggesting a feather or quill.
    13.     Zoology. an internal, corneous or chitinous, feather-shaped structure in certain cephalopods, as the squid. –verb (used with object)
    14.     to write with or as with a pen; put down in writing: to pen an essay.
    15.     to draw with or as with a pen: to pen a sketch.

    Problem solved. It must write to be a pen. If not, then it is a pen-like item.

  12. Aphsamoth
    Date: Tue, Jan 29 2008 10:00:56

    QUOTE (â–¡â–¡â–¡ @ Jan 29 2008, 02:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    [size=2]Pen -[u]noun
    ...
    Problem solved. It must write to be a pen. If not, then it is a pen-like item.

    No, it's merely a defifinition in the dictionary you follow. Defferent dictionaries define the same word individually.
    We should define words on our own if we need to.

  13. B3ndythumbs
    Date: Sun, Mar 30 2008 20:04:08

    I say yes.

    If you apply a ta to a modded pen it is pen spinning. if you ta with a chopstick, it is penspinning. A modded pen isnt really a pen. Same goes for a chopstick, drumstick, etc. Some mods are so far off from pens they aretn really considered pens. so u r saying, if i ta with those, thats not pen spinning?

  14. NinjaMist
    Date: Thu, May 8 2008 00:47:56

    pen spinning is wen one spins with a pen....spinning with chopsticks or drumsticks shud b called....iono.....stick spinning ph34r.gif

  15. Gunblakes
    Date: Thu, May 8 2008 10:39:22

    I guess its all up to individual definition.

  16. Mats
    Date: Thu, May 8 2008 14:10:53

    QUOTE (B3ndythumbs @ Mar 30 2008, 09:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I say yes.

    If you apply a ta to a modded pen it is pen spinning. if you ta with a chopstick...


    it's no longer pen spinning, it's chopstick spinning.

    Take this example:

    I'm juggling 3 balls. I am juggling balls.

    If I then pick up 3 clubs instead. I am juggling clubs. I am no longer doing ball juggling, but club juggling. Even if I do the very same moves with the clubs as I was doing with the balls, it's still club juggling, not ball juggling. No-one in their right mind would ever call that ball juggling. No-one would come up to me in the park and see me juggling clubs and say 'Nice skills you gots with those balls' - It just wouldn't happen.

    Now we apply this to pen spinning. If I do a TA with a pen. It's pen spinning.

    If I now pick up a chopstick and do a TA, it must be chopstick spinning. It would be complete madness to even suggest that was a pen. No-one would come up to me and say 'nice pen spinning'. They would say something along the lines of 'nice skills with the chopstick'.

  17. yoonkwun
    Date: Thu, May 8 2008 20:49:56

    If it looks like a pen, then it is penspinning. If it doesn't, such as a chopstick, it is chopstick spinning. Almost everyone that has a functioning mind can determine what a pen looks like, such as if it has caps, the body has writing, tips, grips, etc.

  18. CudOfCow
    Date: Thu, May 15 2008 18:39:37

    Banana spinning.

  19. 000zero0000
    Date: Sat, May 17 2008 19:28:03

    QUOTE (CudOfCow @ May 15 2008, 02:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Banana spinning.


    or spinning a microphone

  20. stickytak
    Date: Sat, May 17 2008 20:48:02

    is bonkura spinning when he spins a ballsign mod? O.o

  21. sketching
    Date: Sun, May 18 2008 01:05:42

    @stickytak: Yes. So is someone who is spinning a Dr. KT, a Tombow Mod (Swifter-like) or any other mod where the insides are ripped out, IMO.