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When are these coming out?

  1. Jbiggie
    Date: Fri, Feb 1 2008 22:03:10

    I saw SpinZ on the Uk tournamnet site. Has anyone else seen this????????

    KAM'S FAQ ON SPINZ: http://www.upsb.info/forum/index.php?s=&am...ost&p=55304

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    Review threads:
    Spinz - Zero
    Spinz - Ronin
    Spinz - Axis

  2. Sfsr
    Date: Fri, Feb 1 2008 22:06:02

    http://alexsimpsononline.com/

    QUOTE
    For the first time ever a pen designed for PEN SPINNING. SPINZ!

    Fully customizable, precision balanced with tons of accessories to stylize your pen.

    We have 3 levels of pens and multiple graphics to choose from.

    HITTING STORES APRIL 2008!

    April 2008

  3. Jbiggie
    Date: Fri, Feb 1 2008 22:08:41

    QUOTE (Jbiggie @ Feb 1 2008, 05:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I saw SpinZ on the Uk tournamnet site. Has anyone else seen this????????



    I saw that . I cant wait t o see them!!

  4. Zombo
    Date: Sat, Feb 2 2008 00:38:07

    wrong forum dude.

  5. cluu1
    Date: Sat, Feb 2 2008 00:53:05

    is there a website or anything for these
    are they going to be sold in canada?!?!?!??

  6. Zombo
    Date: Sat, Feb 2 2008 00:57:40

    website is not yet up,

    there's not much public info yet, but soon you'll have more.

  7. Dritan_Zulbeari
    Date: Sat, Feb 2 2008 01:00:46

    I actually want to see what kind of stuff there gonna come out with.

    Too bad they took penwish's spot in world cup website.

  8. Jbiggie
    Date: Sat, Feb 2 2008 01:12:11

    QUOTE (Zombo @ Feb 1 2008, 07:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    wrong forum dude.



    Wher should i post it?

  9. cluu1
    Date: Sat, Feb 2 2008 01:12:55

    woah that's awesomeeee
    wonder if gonna cost lots..

  10. Zombo
    Date: Sat, Feb 2 2008 01:19:41

    QUOTE (Dritan_Zulbeari @ Feb 1 2008, 08:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I actually want to see what kind of stuff there gonna come out with.

    Too bad they took penwish's spot in world cup website.


    uhh, the text replaced the memorial for bonkura, not penwish. I think penwish is still involved in the world cup, not sure.

    QUOTE (Jbiggie @ Feb 1 2008, 08:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Wher should i post it?


    it's already moved to the correct section.

  11. UEDan
    Date: Sat, Feb 2 2008 05:54:29

    Anyone here hate the idea of a manufactured spinning pen?

    A large part of pen spinning is the modding.How dare they try to take that away from us!?

  12. K4S
    Date: Sat, Feb 2 2008 06:31:44

    QUOTE (UEDan @ Feb 2 2008, 01:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Anyone here hate the idea of a manufactured spinning pen?

    A large part of pen spinning is the modding.How dare they try to take that away from us!?

    I half agree with you. However, there are a lot of dumb people who have trouble making even the simplest of mods. For those dumb people (and lazy people too) having a pre-made mod is probably not a bad thing. Just look how well the pre-made mods sell on penwish and pendolsa.

    I am curious to see what they came up with. I'd be impressed if they designed the pens to be retractable.

  13. -JC-
    Date: Sat, Feb 2 2008 06:36:59

    yeah, i agree with k4s, hopefully more people will be more motivated to join knowing that they dont' have to actually make their pens
    and advertisements for this pen will probably be more advertisement for pen spinning too, so the ps community can grow that way as well

    too bad ps is getting more and mroe to be a money maker for some people.. -_-'' that upsets me

    well, w/e, if you don't like them, just don't buy 'em ^_^

  14. cyshing
    Date: Sat, Feb 2 2008 07:48:20

    I personally don't like manufactured spinning which is already designed specially for pen spinning, not from other pen parts, can only customize a bit of the colors and maybe can attach and dettach a little of the part to mod with our normal mods. Pre-made mods in PDS and Penwish are different! They're made from other normal pen parts, not specially pre-designed like yoyo or astrojax which are skill toys.

    Pen modding is part of the fun of pen spinning, i'm always impressed with how good and beautiful the mod that other people made using normal pens/pencils and i enjoy modding too during my free time. Measuring and cutting the pen barrel/cap/grip, finding the suitable tip, thinking of how to make the pen mod balanced, coloring(eg. matching the grip colors and inserts), looking for suitable pen to mod in stationery stores and exchanging pens, these all are part of the fun of my pen spinning.

    About using pen spinning to make money, this depend on what case, i'm not sure exactly what i dislike about using pen spinning to make money. happy.gif

    Edit: blah~ whatever.....

  15. Sfsr
    Date: Sat, Feb 2 2008 10:57:20

    I can imagine that tehy will look somewhat like the Pen'z Gear.

  16. Vall3y
    Date: Sat, Feb 2 2008 12:44:44

    dunno this sounds amazing to me
    pen spinning is going big

  17. Salvis
    Date: Sat, Feb 2 2008 14:13:48

    I will still make popular mods, and my discovered mods - new, new and new again.

    When that ''thingy'' will come out i will order it and try it. So if this thingy will be good, then i will buy more and some accesories for it.

  18. Mats
    Date: Sat, Feb 2 2008 14:19:41

    I can't see it being a bad thing. If you don't like pre-made mods, then simply don't buy them. For those who don't want to make their own mods, can't make their own mods, or are having difficulty in making their own, this provides an excellent way for them to obtain some mods to spin with.

  19. Zombo
    Date: Sat, Feb 2 2008 14:46:02

    we've already established in a thread in the philosophy section that a pen spinner does not need to be a good pen modder.

    That means that pen modding and actual pen spinning are two seperate aspects of pen spinning.

    Therefore, pen spinning can exist without pen modding, and pen modding can exist without pen spinning (aesthetic reason? just like car tuning is an art in itself, even if you're not racing).

    Therefore this can satisfy the need for pen spinners who are not interested in pen modding, just like modding pens can satisfy ppl who don't want to pen spin (at least not at a high level).

  20. Eso
    Date: Sat, Feb 2 2008 15:34:41

    They claim to be the first, but they're not. There was that one Japanese toy company...

  21. K4S
    Date: Sat, Feb 2 2008 17:56:46

    I thought the first would have been that french manufactured spinning pen....?

    As interested as i am to see what the product looks like, i am also quite interested in how well SpinZ will do from an economic point of view scratchchin.gif

  22. Zombo
    Date: Sat, Feb 2 2008 18:02:32

    QUOTE (K4S @ Feb 2 2008, 12:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I thought the first would have been that french manufactured spinning pen....?

    As interested as i am to see what the product looks like, i am also quite interested in how well SpinZ will do from an economic point of view scratchchin.gif


    i think that was a family business or something, not a company like spinz or the japanese.

  23. Fallen Glory
    Date: Sat, Feb 2 2008 18:09:54

    http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/226/67478437sf8.png

  24. Jbiggie
    Date: Sat, Feb 2 2008 18:15:22

    Dude Where did you get those images?????????????

    Looks cool!!!!!!!!!!

  25. l33tspinner
    Date: Sat, Feb 2 2008 18:16:14

    QUOTE (Fallen Glory @ Feb 2 2008, 12:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

    where u get ? bowdown.gif

  26. Zombo
    Date: Sat, Feb 2 2008 18:17:14

    夏草の線路 took it from PSUK, probably from Crash.
    Read the shoutbox...

  27. Sfsr
    Date: Sat, Feb 2 2008 18:25:51

    Looks better than expected =D

    I can bet they won't sell 'em in Sweden though... >__>

  28. Jbiggie
    Date: Sat, Feb 2 2008 18:29:33

    QUOTE (Sfsr @ Feb 2 2008, 01:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Looks better than expected =D

    I can bet they won't sell 'em in Sweden though... >__>


    I cant wait! They might hit Sweden!

  29. Xero
    Date: Sun, Feb 3 2008 02:32:22

    As cool as these pens will be, it's going to ruin and help pen spinning.
    Firstly, it'll help those with limited access to special pens for specific modding.
    However, at the same time, this will ruin the point of pen modifications if these things are just given to us.
    Customizations will be so low, and the whole point of modding a pen to spin is to make it your own.
    "SPINZ" is going to do what those companies did to Yo-Yo's.
    Yeah, it'll hit a big boom in popularity, maybe, but then it'll be looked upon as a stupid hobby from then on out.
    This is just an incident of a company trying to get rich off of a small group of individuals.
    I think that SPINZ is a horrible idea. dry.gif

  30. Trogz
    Date: Sun, Feb 3 2008 02:42:43

    cmon, "modz"??? i hate it when companies think it will sell more by adding a Z. I dont like the idea of PS going commercial either. especially if these start popping up at walmart or toysrus. anyone else agree?

  31. NoRice4U
    Date: Sun, Feb 3 2008 02:46:44

    yaaa, wtf is up with the mod"z", maybe Kam will appear in another commercial lawl

  32. Dritan_Zulbeari
    Date: Sun, Feb 3 2008 02:59:39

    QUOTE (Xero @ Feb 2 2008, 10:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    As cool as these pens will be, it's going to ruin and help pen spinning.
    Firstly, it'll help those with limited access to special pens for specific modding.
    However, at the same time, this will ruin the point of pen modifications if these things are just given to us.
    Customizations will be so low, and the whole point of modding a pen to spin is to make it your own.
    "SPINZ" is going to do what those companies did to Yo-Yo's.
    Yeah, it'll hit a big boom in popularity, maybe, but then it'll be looked upon as a stupid hobby from then on out.
    This is just an incident of a company trying to get rich off of a small group of individuals.
    I think that SPINZ is a horrible idea. dry.gif

    I agree with you 100%. Having the fact that pens with be made specifically for PSing I think is a horrible idea.
    It's actually fun to get foreign pens in the mail and mod them to your desire.
    And if you cant trade or whatever people find a way to make them work with the pens that they currently own.
    Also, as xero said, mods with be low.
    And I never want that to happen biggrin.gif

  33. Zombo
    Date: Sun, Feb 3 2008 03:20:14

    hey nobody is stopping you guys from modding.

    why would modding stop if those pens exist?

    all that means is that you can have spinners who can get good spinning pens without learning how to mod, and for ppl who like modding, maybe they can even take those pens and use their parts to mod further.

    if we said before that a pen spinner doesn't need to be a modder, why does it matter that pens for PS exist. it doesn't affect you at all.

    all this does is that it creates another group of spinners, i would call them "casuals" that only got at the commercial PS and don't know our community, and once they join us, they'll discover that's there's more and learn from it.

  34. sketching
    Date: Sun, Feb 3 2008 03:51:11

    @Xero:
    Unless the company can replace the awesomeness of the Hybrid Comssa MX (thumb.gif) I'll still be modding my own pens. From the low-resolution image so far, the pens do not look promising.

  35. Xero
    Date: Sun, Feb 3 2008 04:00:26

    QUOTE (sketching @ Feb 2 2008, 10:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    @Xero:
    Unless the company can replace the awesomeness of the Hybrid Comssa MX (thumb.gif) I'll still be modding my own pens. From the low-resolution image so far, the pens do not look promising.

    I know what you mean.
    I love the MSXA & MX^2 too much to go out and buy those kits. tongue.gif

  36. sketching
    Date: Sun, Feb 3 2008 04:07:36

    Look at PenWish, it offers pre-made mods to buy, but some of us just don't care to take up its offer. We'd much rather trade or just use what's locally available to make mods that fit us better. It's just like people to first come and hear about the RSVP MX, then eventually move onto something better fitted to their own needs. These pens may be awesome for a beginner, but eventually lead to something better. It's all good.

  37. Penwish
    Date: Sun, Feb 3 2008 04:11:40

    Yea sketching is pretty much right. parts sell 1000x better than premades since people do want to "pimp" their pen themselves which is understandable. Hope these pens does better than the japanese ones that were manufactured. yea but spinz/jaks or whatever company name it is called bumped me from sponsoring lol >_< if i had millions of dollars to throw around i would be kicking them out =p hah owellz.....enjoy the superbowl! goooo giants!


    QUOTE (sketching @ Feb 3 2008, 12:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Look at PenWish, it offers pre-made mods to buy, but some of us just don't care to take up its offer. We'd much rather trade or just use what's locally available to make mods that fit us better. It's just like people to first come and hear about the RSVP MX, then eventually move onto something better fitted to their own needs. These pens may be awesome for a beginner, but eventually lead to something better. It's all good.

  38. Fang
    Date: Sun, Feb 3 2008 04:12:46

    I see good and bad in this....i'm ok with it i just hope that people don't end up going "pen spinning is even more stupid now that they have pens that are ment for spinning sold in stores." mellow.gif

  39. reignxiphias
    Date: Sun, Feb 3 2008 04:14:37

    hmm.. seen from the picture, is it me or does it just look like an rsvp barrow in a pack with other stuff? huh(1).gif

    and hell no penwish pats ftw giants are gonna get their asses kicked

  40. l33tspinner
    Date: Sun, Feb 3 2008 04:17:10

    QUOTE (reignxiphias @ Feb 2 2008, 10:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    hmm.. seen from the picture, is it me or does it just look like an rsvp barrow in a pack with other stuff? huh(1).gif

    srsly it looks like an rsvp and a comssa cap.

  41. Penwish
    Date: Sun, Feb 3 2008 04:20:04

    if that hits the stores they will lose a LOT of money. psing is nowhere big enough to be sold in stores i'm guessing it will be either reseller or online store only but then again they only have 3 styles which is too little for online store so i dunno. they look alright seemed to overdo the packaging a bit lol but flashy nonetheless

    QUOTE (Fang @ Feb 3 2008, 12:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I see good and bad in this....i'm ok with it i just hope that people don't end up going "pen spinning is even more stupid now that they have pens that are ment for spinning sold in stores." mellow.gif

  42. -JC-
    Date: Sun, Feb 3 2008 04:28:29

    hmm..yeah, actually i completely agree with you fang
    when people ask me where i get my extra long pens, i say that i made them and they're like..wow, that's really cool
    but if they happen to see this in the store, it'll lead to 1 of 2 things, or both
    1-complete mockery of penspinning by buying one themself and pretending to be a penspinner
    2-asking if i actually had bought my pens and then the questions start coming >.<''

    i dunno how to explain it, but if i see pens made for spinning in stores, pen spinning will just seem so much less...... i dunno *sigh*
    mhmm..if i find the right words for what i'm trying to say, i'll post it, but at the moment, i have no idea how to express it
    i guess i just dont' want pen spinning to get big at times
    i want it to be that thing that only a small group of friends do for fun as a hobby and have everyone else wonder how we do it without having to just go to the store and seeing these cheap pens that attempt to imitate the "real" mods that we spend hours making

  43. Penwish
    Date: Sun, Feb 3 2008 04:39:24

    if you see it in stores that would be a huge leap of faith from jp not sure if they will go that far.

    QUOTE (-JC- @ Feb 3 2008, 12:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    hmm..yeah, actually i completely agree with you fang
    when people ask me where i get my extra long pens, i say that i made them and they're like..wow, that's really cool
    but if they happen to see this in the store, it'll lead to 1 of 2 things, or both
    1-complete mockery of penspinning by buying one themself and pretending to be a penspinner
    2-asking if i actually had bought my pens and then the questions start coming >.<''

    i dunno how to explain it, but if i see pens made for spinning in stores, pen spinning will just seem so much less...... i dunno *sigh*
    mhmm..if i find the right words for what i'm trying to say, i'll post it, but at the moment, i have no idea how to express it
    i guess i just dont' want pen spinning to get big at times
    i want it to be that thing that only a small group of friends do for fun as a hobby and have everyone else wonder how we do it without having to just go to the store and seeing these cheap pens that attempt to imitate the "real" mods that we spend hours making

  44. Eso
    Date: Sun, Feb 3 2008 04:42:06

    Eh, I can't predict what people are going to do and how they will react, BUT what I will say is that I had a much better idea than to package pen spinning like this. Rather than creating a new brand to market out pens specifically for spinning, I was thinking of creating a pen for writing, but the design of the pen allows far greater modding options than any other stock pen currently available.

    I was day dreaming at work today and thought that if these pens were sold in Wal*Mart, people would start flocking to their nearest spinner for lessons.

  45. Zombo
    Date: Sun, Feb 3 2008 04:59:27

    well anyway, for ppl that worry that those pens are gonna ruin the PS reputation, don't worry; we're already very low lol.

    casuals already see it as a geek/bored at school hobby anyway... so I don't see how this could make it worse.

    and i dont think ppl will even know they (spinz) exist unless this company does massive ads.

    plus the packaging makes it seem liek a toy, maybe something you'd see at Toys 'R Us, so that wouldn't affect older teens.

    btw this is not the final product for sure and it still has to be considered an experiment. if it doesn't work out they might drop it or receive some feedback to improve it.

    kinda hard to predict how it'll fare.. but it's strongly possible that the community is too small to support it yet.

  46. Penwish
    Date: Sun, Feb 3 2008 05:22:12

    they probably should work on their google ads...spinz = suicide prevention in new zealand

  47. K4S
    Date: Sun, Feb 3 2008 05:54:58

    QUOTE (Zombo @ Feb 3 2008, 12:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    btw this is not the final product for sure and it still has to be considered an experiment. if it doesn't work out they might drop it or receive some feedback to improve it.

    They should send me prototype and i will judge them :>

  48. Zombo
    Date: Sun, Feb 3 2008 06:20:56

    I'll probably send them a link to this thread... maybe not.

  49. iMatt
    Date: Sun, Feb 3 2008 06:30:48

    all i really have to say is that they put shame to us modders in the community

    ---------------------

    in all honestly, i dont think SpinZ is going to be the next big "fad" thing. So don't Shave the sheep just yet

  50. Sporks
    Date: Sun, Feb 3 2008 13:58:33

    a woman who works for a company that shows toy stores new trends / products or something and she came onto PSUK to ask for soemone to present penspinning at a toy fair and it would get the toy companies to buy the spinz mods. the fair was like the 28 jan - 2 feb or soemthing

  51. Mats
    Date: Sun, Feb 3 2008 14:07:57

    In fairness, she said the chances of them selling the products to toy companies were low without a spinner present to demonstrate the product, and I don't think anyone went...

  52. CrAsH
    Date: Sun, Feb 3 2008 14:54:58

    Hi Guys,

    I've just seen this topill post a little about my opinions.

    From what im reading there is a mix of opinions some people think it will take the art of modding away from spinning, some people think it's becoming more commercial, and you guys are right. This is what i think:

    - In order for pen spinning to become better known, it has to be introduced to the public somehow, and i believe that the project SpinZ will help do this. I remember when i first started spinning, i was buying pre-made mods mostly, i wasn't really good at modding myself, so pre-made mods was cool. After a while when you learn how to mod you can mod your own pen, but for beginners, buying pre-made mods is a start i think.

    - From the messages in general i kind of gather that not many spinners want spinning to become bigger. I can understand in a way, but for me, i live in London, me and MantisJ are the only 2 pen spinners here, and it would be nice to have more spinner friends to practise with. Im sure other people would share the same opinion, but thats just what i think.

    For the moment, nothing yet has been released, i think the site for SpinZ will be up in the next few months. I mean like someone said earlier, we don't need to buy the products, we can just see what is being introduced, then we can decide. Fair enugh everybody has their own opinions, but i would really appreciate it if everbody calmed down a bit until the actual products are released if it's cool with you guys, then we can let the opinions out.

    Take care

  53. TheHOINK
    Date: Sun, Feb 3 2008 15:08:11

    Hello, and a wonderfull (whatever daytime you might be reading this...)


    Excerpt from speaking to a friend...

    "Man, people make up VERY strange ideas, when it comes to this SpinZ thingy... it is like with actionfigures and Customization, or Airsofts and personalized Modells, Car tuning.......some like it easy, some wanna do their unique stuff. And anyway... I would be happy to see, if the pens parts would fit for my own mods, and even if just getting them the way they are... Most pen Mods request japanese and American pens, which ar not avaiable here, and not everybody like me has the chance to buy online, especially the younger ones. AND.... if you do not know if you would like spinning, why buying 8 pens for a mod instead of one finshed one?"


    We had this sorta hype in every Hobby I have... Splatter MAngas, which came from Underground, like Splatter Movies and the first splatter effects showing up in big Holywood titles.
    Will they commercialize it, will our subgenre of gorehounds go down?

    No, it didn't!


    Toymodders, Customizers, modded heluva lot of Toys and Action figures, when people brought out better Action Figure Modells, Die Cast Resin Busts came up, etc... will it stop us from modding?

    No, it won't!


    Airsoft guns, painted to the wishes of their owners and Users. They are given rusty shards, old-fashioned overbrushes.... and then they started seling pre-coloured parts for exchanging them with your already bought, fabric-new gun in all black.
    People interchanged parts from modells, to build guns or rifles, shotguns etc out of Science-Fiction Movies Like Starship Troopers, or built Robocops Beretta, a friend of mine owns nearly 300 Airsofts, has built Alucards (from Kouta Hirano's "Hellsing") gun, and it is usable and functioning. Airsoftlers did built "Star Wars" Guns, to show uff, using modelling Paste, Latex, PVC, and everything they could have gotten their hands on, if it was guessed to be usefull.
    Did it stop users from making their personalized Airsoft Modells for Skirms or RPGs, LARPs and Fanmade Horror and Sci-Fi Movies?

    No, it didn't!


    Acrylic Colours, Oil Colour, Oil Pastels, Aquarell, Graphite... all are ready-to-use in store.
    Despite that fact people sell pigments of high quality and students quality in good / well sorted artists stores. And why? Because ou can mix better, controll the colours, the amount f pigments you wanna have etc.
    Did selling ready-to-use-out-of-the-tube colours stop artists like my former Professors or me stop from making up our own coloured pasts?

    No, it didn't.


    A friend of mine moddifies computers, another one cars....
    Is a real Car tuner or a case-modder stopped by the sold manufacturerd parts?

    No, they are not!


    They look what is on the market, and either refrain from it or buy it for their own use, and rarely leave them as they are.
    So, I totally agree with Zombo, Sketching, what Penwish said...
    Let's see when they are here, and not try to argue ourselves to death before we have facts, and can see for ourselves.
    Might be this "SpinZ" gets popular, since it is quite useless itself, but can be used for your own mods.
    Or you, as a customer, can just buy a "ready-to-spin" pen. Not everybody is able to get all the Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Asian, American... etc... pens used in a lot of Mods.

    And when you are new to something, maybe you do not want to buy a dozens of pens for trying if you can mod something, and then see you are not gifted with talented hands for modding or you simply are not interested that long into spinning.
    I believe it is a chance to get people easy to attain new pens in regions where it might get hard to get all pens together, eeded for a certain mod.
    And if somebody gets into it, he will get to the more specific "customizing". Believe me.

    Every Airsoftler, Artist, Car tuner, Casemodder, ....whatever.... i know started slowly and got deeper into the subject she / he was interested in.
    But to be interested in something, your attention has to be put on it.

    So, give it a chance and... let's see.

    TheHOINK happy.gif

  54. l33tspinner
    Date: Sun, Feb 3 2008 15:39:44

    QUOTE (TheHOINK @ Feb 3 2008, 09:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

    Spoiler:
    Hello, and a wonderfull (whatever daytime you might be reading this...)


    Excerpt from speaking to a friend...

    "Man, people make up VERY strange ideas, when it comes to this SpinZ thingy... it is like with actionfigures and Customization, or Airsofts and personalized Modells, Car tuning.......some like it easy, some wanna do their unique stuff. And anyway... I would be happy to see, if the pens parts would fit for my own mods, and even if just getting them the way they are... Most pen Mods request japanese and American pens, which ar not avaiable here, and not everybody like me has the chance to buy online, especially the younger ones. AND.... if you do not know if you would like spinning, why buying 8 pens for a mod instead of one finshed one?"


    We had this sorta hype in every Hobby I have... Splatter MAngas, which came from Underground, like Splatter Movies and the first splatter effects showing up in big Holywood titles.
    Will they commercialize it, will our subgenre of gorehounds go down?

    No, it didn't!


    Toymodders, Customizers, modded heluva lot of Toys and Action figures, when people brought out better Action Figure Modells, Die Cast Resin Busts came up, etc... will it stop us from modding?

    No, it won't!


    Airsoft guns, painted to the wishes of their owners and Users. They are given rusty shards, old-fashioned overbrushes.... and then they started seling pre-coloured parts for exchanging them with your already bought, fabric-new gun in all black.
    People interchanged parts from modells, to build guns or rifles, shotguns etc out of Science-Fiction Movies Like Starship Troopers, or built Robocops Beretta, a friend of mine owns nearly 300 Airsofts, has built Alucards (from Kouta Hirano's "Hellsing") gun, and it is usable and functioning. Airsoftlers did built "Star Wars" Guns, to show uff, using modelling Paste, Latex, PVC, and everything they could have gotten their hands on, if it was guessed to be usefull.
    Did it stop users from making their personalized Airsoft Modells for Skirms or RPGs, LARPs and Fanmade Horror and Sci-Fi Movies?

    No, it didn't!


    Acrylic Colours, Oil Colour, Oil Pastels, Aquarell, Graphite... all are ready-to-use in store.
    Despite that fact people sell pigments of high quality and students quality in good / well sorted artists stores. And why? Because ou can mix better, controll the colours, the amount f pigments you wanna have etc.
    Did selling ready-to-use-out-of-the-tube colours stop artists like my former Professors or me stop from making up our own coloured pasts?

    No, it didn't.


    A friend of mine moddifies computers, another one cars....
    Is a real Car tuner or a case-modder stopped by the sold manufacturerd parts?

    No, they are not!


    They look what is on the market, and either refrain from it or buy it for their own use, and rarely leave them as they are.
    So, I totally agree with Zombo, Sketching, what Penwish said...
    Let's see when they are here, and not try to argue ourselves to death before we have facts, and can see for ourselves.
    Might be this "SpinZ" gets popular, since it is quite useless itself, but can be used for your own mods.
    Or you, as a customer, can just buy a "ready-to-spin" pen. Not everybody is able to get all the Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Asian, American... etc... pens used in a lot of Mods.

    And when you are new to something, maybe you do not want to buy a dozens of pens for trying if you can mod something, and then see you are not gifted with talented hands for modding or you simply are not interested that long into spinning.
    I believe it is a chance to get people easy to attain new pens in regions where it might get hard to get all pens together, eeded for a certain mod.
    And if somebody gets into it, he will get to the more specific "customizing". Believe me.

    Every Airsoftler, Artist, Car tuner, Casemodder, ....whatever.... i know started slowly and got deeper into the subject she / he was interested in.
    But to be interested in something, your attention has to be put on it.

    So, give it a chance and... let's see.

    TheHOINK happy.gif


    ohmy.gif wooooooooooow, and i agree with you, spinz might make ps more popular.

    ~dont quote long text~

  55. Jack
    Date: Sun, Feb 3 2008 17:24:23

    yea, it mite make psing more popular but i prefer moding so personally i would rather spend my money on regular pens than pens designed for spinning.

  56. SpinningDragon
    Date: Sun, Feb 3 2008 18:43:57

    it looks like toys for little children...

    maybe they will not be as bad as they look, i hope so....

  57. Frip
    Date: Mon, Feb 4 2008 02:16:43

    QUOTE (SpinningDragon @ Feb 3 2008, 07:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    it looks like toys for little children...


    What do Miffy And Melanie Pens look like? -.-
    I fully agree with HOINK, let's just wait what they will bring biggrin.gif

  58. darkeh
    Date: Mon, Feb 4 2008 02:37:30

    I think they look pretty cool, just hope they don't cost too much.
    Does anyone know if these ever came out? They seem like about the same idea.

  59. dust_kid
    Date: Mon, Feb 4 2008 05:53:21

    QUOTE (darkeh @ Feb 4 2008, 01:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I think they look pretty cool, just hope they don't cost too much.
    Does anyone know if these ever came out? They seem like about the same idea.


    Yeah they did, these are the ones that Eso are referring to:

    QUOTE (Eso @ Feb 3 2008, 02:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    They claim to be the first, but they're not. There was that one Japanese toy company...

  60. Sfsr
    Date: Mon, Feb 4 2008 10:12:18

    QUOTE (darkeh @ Feb 4 2008, 03:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I think they look pretty cool, just hope they don't cost too much.
    Does anyone know if these ever came out? They seem like about the same idea.

    Pen'z Gear, to be released this month. Dunno how it's going for them though.

  61. Jbiggie
    Date: Mon, Feb 4 2008 17:08:04

    I think we should wait and see. Those look cool and maybe this will help evolve pen spinning!

    I think they look cool!

  62. Jbiggie
    Date: Mon, Feb 4 2008 19:24:41

    QUOTE (Novastrike @ Feb 4 2008, 12:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Cool, the pen'z gear are writable!


    I think the Spinz will be writeable too!

    PS is getting popular!

  63. blugyblug
    Date: Tue, Feb 5 2008 08:59:38

    I dont like this idea...Xero is right, it will make Psing a stupid hobby, just like wat they did to Yo-Yo's.
    I know it doesnt stop people from modding, but it affects PS overall..

  64. asakawa
    Date: Tue, Feb 5 2008 19:23:54

    i wondered how long it would take for that image to be noticed on PSUK and only just noticed this thread.
    i can say that the image of the spinz stuff didn't come from/via CrAsH

    interesting idea but can't see it working amongst current spinners. i can see them selling well to people new to spinning from the products' release onwards though.

  65. ArchAngel2
    Date: Wed, Feb 6 2008 00:34:46

    hmmm...interesting......i doubt that they'll sell a lot....
    i personally prefer my own mods... but these things just opens up pen spinning to those who can't get mods...

  66. Missle_Z
    Date: Wed, Feb 6 2008 03:21:25

    I really liked the idea at first, but then I thought a little and it would be kind of a mockery to pen spinning dry.gif

    Like they did to the yo-yo's, they made them names and stuff and I was so into that when I was a little kid...
    (Firestorm was that red yo yo, the list goes on)

    So I'd go to the store and I'd be like

    "Oh! Oh! I'm gonna buy an RSVP MX!!!"
    No frickin way.
    I'd go in a hoody and keep to lowest profile possible if I were to buy it lol

    And just a side thought ----- What if they started makng false names for the mods!?! Like calling a ComSsa....like...Spin-o-matic. That'd really ruin PS altogether

  67. Zombo
    Date: Wed, Feb 6 2008 04:37:13

    QUOTE (Missle_Z @ Feb 5 2008, 10:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I really liked the idea at first, but then I thought a little and it would be kind of a mockery to pen spinning dry.gif

    Like they did to the yo-yo's, they made them names and stuff and I was so into that when I was a little kid...
    (Firestorm was that red yo yo, the list goes on)

    So I'd go to the store and I'd be like

    "Oh! Oh! I'm gonna buy an RSVP MX!!!"
    No frickin way.
    I'd go in a hoody and keep to lowest profile possible if I were to buy it lol

    And just a side thought ----- What if they started makng false names for the mods!?! Like calling a ComSsa....like...Spin-o-matic. That'd really ruin PS altogether


    what are you talking about, it's a new mod, not old ones being renamed. get your facts straight.

  68. Clog
    Date: Wed, Feb 6 2008 04:53:08

    QUOTE (Penwish @ Feb 3 2008, 06:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    they probably should work on their google ads...spinz = suicide prevention in new zealand


    LOL just 'cause we have a high suicide rate =_=

    And to them having gay names like 'super-spin pen 3000' or something, it would only be bad if they looked similar to our mods. Like if i were using my commsa and some guy came along and was like "ZOMG A SUPER-SPIN PEN 3000" i'd be sorta pissed. Anyway it won't affect me in NZ 'cause they probably won't even get shipped here anyway let alone sell.

  69. sadi teh pirate
    Date: Thu, Feb 7 2008 01:20:08

    QUOTE (UEDan @ Feb 2 2008, 12:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Anyone here hate the idea of a manufactured spinning pen?

    A large part of pen spinning is the modding.How dare they try to take that away from us!?


    pens manufactured for pen spinning = prices cut in half or more.......

  70. ultimatsz
    Date: Fri, Feb 8 2008 11:39:54

    man i really hope that these made it to singapore.. then singapore spinners probably can conduct workshops teaching people to pen spin? and be in some advert or sth.

    *contact me lol... XD erm i meant dathroat.

  71. CPC
    Date: Fri, Feb 8 2008 16:26:31

    Does anybody know the name of the company making the spinz?

  72. Novastrike
    Date: Fri, Feb 8 2008 16:35:20

    QUOTE (ultimatsz @ Feb 8 2008, 07:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    man i really hope that these made it to singapore.. then singapore spinners probably can conduct workshops teaching people to pen spin? and be in some advert or sth.

    *contact me lol... XD erm i meant dathroat.


    Should say, contact US!!!

  73. ultimatsz
    Date: Fri, Feb 8 2008 21:36:38

    QUOTE (Novastrike @ Feb 9 2008, 12:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Should say, contact US!!!


    if they contact us.. they probably contact tohlz... man....

  74. afterplace
    Date: Sun, Feb 10 2008 03:19:39

    Hmm, taking a thought or two from my social sciences book, this (impending) commercialization of PS through this new pens (OMFGFTWKEWLPENZ) is inevitable. It is a tendency of every opportunist capitalist to ride on any profitable venture he can see; in this case, this wave of PS, which imho, is getting more popular than before primarily because of technology, most specifically, youtube (I imagine how difficult penspinners before would showcase their skills without youtube). Anyway, this businessmen are trying to tap this (still) underground art by coming out with commercial pens.

    Is it really bad? Yes and no. Yes because it will "commercialize" the art, thus, reducing its artistic values into nothing more than a FAD. It won't be long before hardcore spinners will be "the same" with the fad-riders. And I dread to see the day when supposed "pioneers" and "gods" of PS will sell out to advertise these commercial pens. ohmy.gif

    On the other hand, this commercialization is also good because it will usher this art into the limelight. I know many of you are torn between preserving the art by keeping it underground, and sharing by getting it into the mainstream. But come to think of it, letting the "popular" world know about this art is a good thing because it will spread this art to a broader audience.

    Think of skateboarding, of extreme sports, breakdancing, heck, even rock and roll. They were all "underground" before some businessmen tried to milk money from them: expensive skateboard decks, guitars, gears, etc. With penspinning, I guess it won't hurt to have a variety of pens to spin with, be it self-modded or factory fresh designs.

    But look at these arts now, despite the attempts, they are still pure inside despite the money-stained outside. Why? Because true art transcends everything even itself wink.gif

    Just my 2.0 z. I hope I made sense. I am having a undergraduate thesis hangover. LOL

    Now back to my thesis sad.gif

  75. Eso
    Date: Mon, Feb 11 2008 18:45:41

    I think those of you who think this is "cheapening" PS or think that someone will eventually "sell out" don't have the full picture. Just because a company or two want to create pens doesn't mean the end of the PS world. I don't know their motives, but if I were to create a company fabricating specially made pens, my motive is to make it easier to mod pens and to have it readily accessible.
    If you think that every business person is out to milk the cash cow, then you're probably too cynical to appreciate the good people out there. You know, there ARE people out there that stand proud behind their product and wish to cater to their customers.

    Also, one doesn't sell out unless he/she had claimed to stay underground.

  76. -JC-
    Date: Tue, Feb 12 2008 02:29:41

    eh, i just feel like people will go out and buy them just to mock those who do spin, rather than actually to learn how to spin themselves


    so the other day i found this guy durign a science competition, and found out that he knew someone (i forgot their actual relation xDD, something with his dad i think) that was in the business working on advertising SPINZ
    i'll see if i can contact him again and get more information about it from him wink.gif but i can't promise that i'll actually be able to even get into contact wtih him again

  77. Xero
    Date: Tue, Feb 12 2008 02:36:35

    I think that we can understand the fact that a corporation will profit off of an innovative hobby is a little disappointing... dry.gif

  78. l33tspinner
    Date: Tue, Feb 12 2008 05:05:20

    is there a website up yet?

  79. iNoob
    Date: Tue, Feb 12 2008 07:11:34

    HEY~~

    that sounds like my Zig mod lol. cause at the end of the day all you can change is the weight. same here x)

    and anyway modding is also part of the fun of psing. where's the kick if u see every single random dude using the same pen that looks exactly the same. and for the "SUPER-SPIN PEN 3000", we already have the F-3000 mod ._.

  80. Novastrike
    Date: Tue, Feb 12 2008 17:31:26

    QUOTE (Eso @ Feb 12 2008, 02:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    but if I were to create a company fabricating specially made pens, my motive is to make it easier to mod pens and to have it readily accessible.
    If you think that every business person is out to milk the cash cow, then you're probably too cynical to appreciate the good people out there. You know, there ARE people out there that stand proud behind their product and wish to cater to their customers.


    If the company is opened by some pen spinners, they will probably think this way.
    Hope this thing will be doing some good for us...

  81. Jbiggie
    Date: Tue, Feb 12 2008 17:59:29

    If they no about Pen Spinning their will be mods. In that picture it shows packs of mods.

    I cant wait to see them.

  82. Salvis
    Date: Tue, Feb 12 2008 19:51:48

    What prices are going to be (ABOUT) ??? What you think? huh.gif

  83. -JC-
    Date: Wed, Feb 13 2008 03:31:29

    eh, i'd say about $4-5 for each one

  84. Kam
    Date: Wed, Feb 13 2008 07:50:58

    Guys, we seem to be forgetting something...every company in the past that has had any interest in PS was trying to make a profit out of it. That's what companies do...they need money to grow, pay their employees, etc.

    But that doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad thing. For one, PS gets more exposure...and more exposure means more pen spinners (granted that not everyone will take it seriously, but some will, and some will even play a big part in pushing PS forward).

    And I know how some of you are feeling. You rather keep PS underground or not well known. But I don't think it's in our power to control that. You can try to influence the direction PS is growing, but whether you like it or not, it's gonna grow...I've seen it happen before. But don't worry...it's a lot more fun when you have others to share PS with. Thinking back through my 15 years of spinning, I can't think of having more fun with Pen Spinning than back in 97/98 when I had classmates that were into PS, and our PS Gatherings. I admit, at times I wished PS didn't grow so fast that I can't keep up with all the new tricks and spinners out there, but I realized that I was being kinda selfish, and that I rather see PS grow than to see it stall in time.

    Plus, if you wanted to keep PS underground, you should go around trying to shutdown all the PS sites and videos out there, lol.

    At least this isn't another case of Bic who tried to use PS to sell their unspinnable pens (and even then, I think the exposure PS got was beneficial).

  85. sketching
    Date: Wed, Feb 13 2008 07:56:33

    Wait a second... are you saying that the Pen Spinning Academy wasn't a complete success?! Mouquette's gonna be bummed if he hears that. tongue.gif I don't know how useful Bic's efforts were to PS, but it was definitely entertaining.

  86. Kam
    Date: Wed, Feb 13 2008 08:22:24

    QUOTE (sketching @ Feb 12 2008, 11:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Wait a second... are you saying that the Pen Spinning Academy wasn't a complete success?! Mouquette's gonna be bummed if he hears that. tongue.gif I don't know how useful Bic's efforts were to PS, but it was definitely entertaining.


    I think what ruined it was not the PSing...but the fact that the site took 10 minutes to load on broadband.


    oh yeah...and maybe the fact that out of all the Bic pens I have, there's only one I think it's decent for spinning tongue.gif

  87. sketching
    Date: Wed, Feb 13 2008 08:32:16

    Yeah, the website was horribly put together. I'll be happy if these SPINZ pens are fairly cheap and have good grips, otherwise, I won't be affected by them.

  88. Sporks
    Date: Wed, Feb 13 2008 09:46:33

    I dont mind PSing growing, its sorta a good thing. I CAN wait for these to come out. i think it ruins the whole psing spirit, modding pens yourself and finding tutorials for tricks yourself etc. i dont want it to be a load of kids that learn how to PS from the back of a box, that spend their allowence on these premade mods and try to collect all the different colors etc.

  89. hknl13
    Date: Wed, Feb 13 2008 09:59:18

    it does help the people who truly need the help, starting out with something that's not horrible tends to boost the morale somewhat, and if the pens are at a reasonable price range, many people may try it out and join a penspinning community to learn more

  90. TEK
    Date: Tue, Feb 19 2008 09:19:59

    haha i think its pretty interesting.
    they want to make a pen just for pen spinning, go for it.
    people use whatever they want to use. its not like its gunna stop pen modding. why would it do that?
    no matter how good this product is, it wont replace our home made modded pens.

    but i cant wait to see how these things are. smile.gif

  91. ultimatsz
    Date: Tue, Feb 19 2008 17:09:47

    QUOTE (iNoob @ Feb 12 2008, 03:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    HEY~~

    that sounds like my Zig mod lol. cause at the end of the day all you can change is the weight. same here x)

    and anyway modding is also part of the fun of psing. where's the kick if u see every single random dude using the same pen that looks exactly the same. and for the "SUPER-SPIN PEN 3000", we already have the F-3000 mod ._.



    your.... zig mod.. right....................................

    zig mod is wonderful because you can change the length. change the weight. and stuff like that. colors are de GODS!..

    yours??? hmph... darn.

  92. Ryuukohaden
    Date: Wed, Feb 20 2008 01:46:45

    This will probably result in three types of spinners: one that buys these "spinz" and learns a few basic tricks, then spams them all day, one that buys these pens and learns a few tricks, then actually branches out and gets into PS, and then there'll still be the "hardcore" spinners that selfmod their pens and all that jazz.

    Just a thought.

    But it'll probably divide penspinning rather than unite it.

  93. SpinStar
    Date: Thu, Feb 21 2008 01:44:48

    Man, these Spinz will be crazy. Pen spinning would grow and reach out to beginners and starters once somebody brings it to school. Then they would say where do you get it from. and the chain goes on going higher and higher. I guess pen spinning is a growing organism, it's our choice whether to slowen the growth or boost it up. For those who want to keep it underground you can keep those Spinz hidden and spin other modded pens. If you want to boost it just boost it and spam it. In the end it would even out right?

    Can't wait to see the new pen.

  94. ultimatsz
    Date: Thu, Feb 21 2008 03:17:14

    QUOTE (SpinStar @ Feb 21 2008, 09:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Man, these Spinz will be crazy. Pen spinning would grow and reach out to beginners and starters once somebody brings it to school. Then they would say where do you get it from. and the chain goes on going higher and higher. I guess pen spinning is a growing organism, it's our choice whether to slowen the growth or boost it up. For those who want to keep it underground you can keep those Spinz hidden and spin other modded pens. If you want to boost it just boost it and spam it. In the end it would even out right?

    Can't wait to see the new pen.


    do you mean organisation? organism or ?

    well.it takes a trend to get people to the hobby. if not they will not know if it existed. therefore it will be great and this may bring uber better pen spinners. you may never know.

  95. NoRice4U
    Date: Thu, Feb 21 2008 03:41:46

    maybe newer people will buy these and say to other people with their own mods, omg get a real spinning pen you noob

  96. ArchAngel2
    Date: Thu, Feb 21 2008 03:50:52

    QUOTE (Ryuukohaden @ Feb 19 2008, 08:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    This will probably result in three types of spinners: one that buys these "spinz" and learns a few basic tricks, then spams them all day, one that buys these pens and learns a few tricks, then actually branches out and gets into PS, and then there'll still be the "hardcore" spinners that selfmod their pens and all that jazz.

    Just a thought.

    But it'll probably divide penspinning rather than unite it.

    Hmm....
    that sounds interesting...
    i hope they don't buy those and mock us....
    cause if that ever happens....
    i'm gonna stab them with my KT.... wink.gif

    They already mock me enough at school dry.gif

  97. Roxas
    Date: Thu, Feb 21 2008 04:11:11

    QUOTE (NoRice4U @ Feb 20 2008, 08:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    maybe newer people will buy these and say to other people with their own mods, omg get a real spinning pen you noob


    That's what I'm afraid of.....these ignorant noobs that think that Psing started with these mods.......

    meh w/e I'll do what ArchAngel2 said......stab 'em with my KT and maybe say "Can your mod actually hurt other people?????? I don't think so!!!!!!" tongue.gif

  98. pholord
    Date: Thu, Feb 21 2008 04:52:04

    QUOTE (NoRice4U @ Feb 20 2008, 07:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    maybe newer people will buy these and say to other people with their own mods, omg get a real spinning pen you noob


    Thats when you bust out your mx and say "why dont you spin a pen instead of that lame stick?"

  99. ultimatsz
    Date: Thu, Feb 21 2008 05:32:43

    dr grip ad g2EX FTW!
    marvy doubler is great stock spinner too. asn so is rsvp hgg and tripus

  100. Kam
    Date: Fri, Feb 22 2008 03:20:20

    Ok...here is some information about Spinz that should clear some misunderstandings...

    - Do Spinz write? Yes...they may look a bit strange, but they are all writeable.
    - Can these pens actually be used for spinning? yes, of course
    - How good for spinning are them? That's relative to what you spin with. They may not be like a Dr. KT, but they're also not like standard Bics...lol. I'd say they're better than MX's but not quite as long and heavy as an MSXA
    - Is Spinz a cheap scam to make money? I don't think so...the company is trying to make money, that's true (what company doesn't want to make a profit?), but they have invested a good amount of time and money into Spinz. There's a chance they could lose money if Spinz doesn't sell, but obviously they're hoping it will.
    - Is Spinz going to ruin pen modding? Nobody knows...but that certainly is not their goal. They are aware of pen modding's popularity and are trying to accommodate their products to both beginners and serious pen spinners.
    - How much are they going to cost? That depends on the retailer...they are probably going to be more expensive than regular pens, but cheaper than trading overseas or modding your own pens (of course, this depends on what mods u usually trade or make)
    - Who is this company? You may not have heard of them...they're called Jakks Pacific. They're one of the top toy companies in the world. One of their division is in charge of Speed Stacks. They also own Pentech, which is a fairly big pen manufacturer in the US and Canada.
    - Am I gonna like them? How am I supposed to know? lol. I guess it depends on whether you're into modding, whether you like to see PS expand to a new level of popularity or not, and a lot of other things. I'm sure some people will like them while others won't.
    - Is this a copy of Penz Gear? No...This project has been in development for about a year now, and was certainly not influenced by Penz Gear.

    How do I know all this? I've been working with the company since early last year. It's a long story, but I've been involved in many parts of this project. I obviously don't know everything, and can't say everything I know, but there...the secret is out....Spinz is one of the bigger projects I've been working in terms of PS. People whom i've met personally in gatherings might know a few of the other projects I've been working on.

    Why didn't you I say something before? I have my reasons...there's always internal information that can't be disclosed, and the whole project could be compromised if another company tried to copy the products before they were released.

    I know some of you are going to be like "Cool...at least they hired someone who knows about PS to work on this project", while others are going to be "Omg...Kam is totally selling out", and that's fine...you're entitled your own opinion. But just remember that most of you know very little about me and everything involved behind the scenes, so if you have a question...ask politely and I'll do my best to answer. If you start insulting me for no reason, then don't expect me to pay any attention to you. I just came back from a long trip to New York, having an average of 5 hrs of sleep a night sleep.gif , so I'm not in my most patient mood wink.gif

    Kam

  101. Rorix
    Date: Fri, Feb 22 2008 03:29:53

    I'm liking this pen a lot more now that I know an experienced pen spinner had some input into it.

  102. iLLfOX
    Date: Fri, Feb 22 2008 03:39:59

    most likely they will look likr comssas
    or mx
    its genious idea for people like me who just cant get their hands on a mod

  103. Clog
    Date: Fri, Feb 22 2008 03:48:54

    QUOTE (Rorix @ Feb 22 2008, 04:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I'm liking this pen a lot more now that I know an experienced pen spinner had some input into it.

    Yeah but do you really think they'll come to NZ...

  104. iLLfOX
    Date: Fri, Feb 22 2008 03:53:22

    i think they will target america
    trends come and go but this could be the next pokemon
    if you know what i mean...

  105. Kam
    Date: Fri, Feb 22 2008 05:32:16

    QUOTE (Clog @ Feb 21 2008, 07:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Yeah but do you really think they'll come to NZ...


    You never know...I've been in a couple trade shows for them, and it seems like everyone likes the products and whole PS idea, so I'm guessing it'll reach more than just the US.

  106. sadi teh pirate
    Date: Fri, Feb 22 2008 05:32:38


    QUOTE
    - Who is this company? You may not have heard of them...they're called Jakks Pacific. They're one of the top toy companies in the world. One of their division is in charge of Speed Stacks. They also own Pentech, which is a fairly big pen manufacturer in the US and Canada.


    yay! that sounds like they are gunna be here!

  107. ArchAngel2
    Date: Fri, Feb 22 2008 05:59:44

    Hmmm..... now that Kam had participated in the development of this.... it might actually be pretty good to spin.

    @Kam: have you spun these before?

  108. WhiteFang
    Date: Fri, Feb 22 2008 07:11:04

    Omg...Kam is totally selling out... biggrin.gif


    would we be able to buy spinz on the net?

  109. Salvis
    Date: Fri, Feb 22 2008 09:03:02

    I bet this product wont hit Latvia so i will need to buy them online... dem it! mellow.gif

  110. Outlander
    Date: Fri, Feb 22 2008 14:12:14

    I found this in an article on MSN:

    JAKKS PACIFIC BETS ON PEN SPINNING: JAKKS Pacific Inc. is betting that pen spinning -- a fast growing trend in Europe and Asia that involves twirling customized pens with your fingers -- will take off in the U.S. The toy company will be unveiling at stores this April a pen line called SpinZ, a collection of pens that can be customized to meet your weight and length preferences. The line, which features special grips, is priced from $6.99 to $19.99. In 2006, JAKKS Pacific capitalized on the increasing popularity of sport stacking with a toy line called Speed Stacks.




    I don't know if these prices are actually going to be the final cost for them, but it seems very reasonable. This could really help people out who either are modding-incapable or cannot get decent modding parts in their area, but have a near-by toy store that could sell these. happy.gif



    P.S. - I am SO looking forward to these, especially since we now know that KAM has been helping them out with the project. These could help a lot of people out. biggrin.gif

    And thanks KAM for all the background info wink.gif

  111. sadi teh pirate
    Date: Fri, Feb 22 2008 14:40:32

    even though i know that these are gunna look good, an no doubt spin incredibly good, and im no doubt going to buy a few....is there going to be ways that we can customize these to be trully unique pens all to our own?

  112. Eso
    Date: Fri, Feb 22 2008 16:09:55

    QUOTE (sadi teh pirate @ Feb 22 2008, 09:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    even though i know that these are gunna look good, an no doubt spin incredibly good, and im no doubt going to buy a few....is there going to be ways that we can customize these to be trully unique pens all to our own?


    Modders have found ways to stick a G2 barrel on top of a RSVP barrel, stick a Sakura Gel cap on top of Comssa caps, and shaker mechanisms inside RSVPs. I think the Spinz will be just fine for modding with other pens.

  113. Zombo
    Date: Fri, Feb 22 2008 18:44:21

    nice find outlander!

    7-20 sounds reasonable considering high-end mods (dr.kt and such) cost upwards of $20.

    for current pen modders im not sure because if you only use one small part of the spinz pen to create another mod, you just tacked on $20 to the cost of your mod...

  114. Kam
    Date: Fri, Feb 22 2008 21:28:01

    QUOTE (ArchAngel2 @ Feb 21 2008, 09:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Hmmm..... now that Kam had participated in the development of this.... it might actually be pretty good to spin.

    @Kam: have you spun these before?

    Please keep in mind that I did not have complete control over these pens as I wish I had, but I did provide lots of feedback whenever I could, and I know they adopted many of them. I obviously don't have control over the prices either, but I think they're reasonable considering how much we end up spending on multiple pens, shipping, modding time, etc.

    QUOTE (WhiteFang @ Feb 21 2008, 11:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Omg...Kam is totally selling out... biggrin.gif

    would we be able to buy spinz on the net?

    I'm not sure...depends on who's carrying them. But I believe that big stores like Walmart, Target, Staples, etc. may be carrying them, and they also have online stores, so you might be able to get them.

    QUOTE (sadi teh pirate @ Feb 22 2008, 06:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    even though i know that these are gunna look good, an no doubt spin incredibly good, and im no doubt going to buy a few....is there going to be ways that we can customize these to be trully unique pens all to our own?


    Two of the pens are customizable out of the box. You can swap inserts, grips, etc. to make it your own. But obviously, there's nothing stopping you from getting parts from another pen and making a custom mod of your own. I haven't made one myself because I'm too busy, but I'm sure there's room for modding.

  115. WhiteFang
    Date: Fri, Feb 22 2008 23:12:40

    has everyone seen this picture..? (sorry if you have)

  116. NoRice4U
    Date: Fri, Feb 22 2008 23:14:36

    hmm maybe ill try them out if i see any

  117. random person
    Date: Sat, Feb 23 2008 01:12:38

    whered you get that pic?

  118. soulsonic
    Date: Sat, Feb 23 2008 02:54:53

    yo crazy they come disassemnled?? so you can put them together and add inserts and all that, pretty neat if they could be found at the local store i would most likely buy some to see how it is compared to our home mods, and maybe even add on different stuff from other pens too if possible, cant wait for them to come out happy.gif the penzgear add really had me thinking about this whole spinz talk since the movie they made was..... confusedsmilie.gif ......ghetto! like seriously wtf lol but of guys in glasses and hoodies and hands in their pockets spinning and running around, what are they trying to say???? is that supposed to be cool??? is that supposed to influence ppl into buying it? i swear if my friends at school saw that theyd probably be pointing me out and comparing me to those guys and laugh >.< but not that ive seen the preview pic of the spinz pen and knowing its from a large company, along with the help of kam i have some hope for it ^______^"

  119. nolan
    Date: Sat, Feb 23 2008 13:16:42

    What video?

    Yes, by the fact that there are people running around in sweatshirts and hoods, which is cool now, they are making them look cooler.

    That is one heck of a run-on sentence. You have 2 buttons, one that says Enter and one that has a dot on it, use them both.

  120. Jamie Enns
    Date: Sat, Feb 23 2008 15:21:03

    i think he's talking about this video
    http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=yauDxkuUf9U

    but that i off topic because this thread is about spinz, not pen'z gear
    so, i'll ask: where did that photo come from?

  121. Zombo
    Date: Sat, Feb 23 2008 15:31:12

    pen'z gear is designed for the japanese audience... so you can't really say if the ad is bad or not, because it won't be viewed here.

  122. nolan
    Date: Sat, Feb 23 2008 17:51:42

    QUOTE (Jamie Enns @ Feb 23 2008, 10:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    so, i'll ask: where did that photo come from?

    It has been floating around for sometime now, not sure who got it...

  123. soulsonic
    Date: Sat, Feb 23 2008 17:55:56

    well penzgear was my first impression of a pen made specifically for penspinning so that commercial really put an impression on me, and wtf is up with nolan this aint no english class i can type however i feel like, im just typing shit on on the top of my head why you being so picky

  124. Jbiggie
    Date: Sun, Feb 24 2008 05:29:22

    Now that Kam is involved I am sure Spinz will be good!

  125. Katantoon
    Date: Sun, Feb 24 2008 20:07:38

    so is it officialy out now?

  126. nolan
    Date: Sun, Feb 24 2008 20:10:02

    it says on the world cup website that there coming out in MARCH.

  127. Vall3y
    Date: Sun, Feb 24 2008 20:10:09

    i think pengearz is, but spinz isnt

  128. Sfsr
    Date: Sun, Feb 24 2008 20:38:30

    No.

    Penz Gear will be released... wait, should've been released yesterday I think it was? And Spinz says they will be released on April on the WC08 site, but I don't think that's an exact date, so we probably can't count on it.

    EDIT: They were released on the 21st, so that's three days ago.

    QUOTE (Aphsamoth @ Feb 18 2008, 02:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    They're going to be released in Japan Feburuary 21st. They've actually been prereleased on Feburuary 1st, 2nd, and 3rd though.

    http://www.takaratomy.co.jp/ir/release/press/pdf/p080131.pdf

  129. NoRice4U
    Date: Sun, Feb 24 2008 20:43:08

    A certain somebody this morning said the SPINZ pens were good biggrin.gif so I'm looking forward to them now maybe I'll buy some extra to trade with those who can't get them.

  130. Outlander
    Date: Sun, Feb 24 2008 21:37:26

    I hope either Spinz or Pen'z Gear gets sold in the states happy.gif

  131. soulsonic
    Date: Sun, Feb 24 2008 22:50:42

    im sure jakks pacific will be sold in the states since jakks pacific which owns pentech is american, i hope they sell in canada though biggrin.gif

  132. Se7en
    Date: Mon, Feb 25 2008 03:59:32

    i bet K4S feared this day for a long time tongue.gif

  133. lpenspinnerl
    Date: Mon, Feb 25 2008 04:38:50

    ilulzkn5.jpg

  134. Kyosuke
    Date: Mon, Feb 25 2008 06:56:16

    Where would these products be sold? In toy stores? Office stores?

  135. ultimatsz
    Date: Mon, Feb 25 2008 12:12:41

    wow.. i hope it lands on singapore and i can be a promoter in singapore like kam.

  136. CPC
    Date: Mon, Feb 25 2008 17:08:53

    Even though I like to mod pens I will be buying some of these. The one kam had in the video looked nice.

  137. Xero
    Date: Mon, Feb 25 2008 18:04:51

    These pens are going to be great for a younger audience.
    I have 4th, 5th, and 6th graders nag me about how cool my pens are and if they can have one.
    Now I can tell them to GTFO and make your parents buy you some. tongue.gif

  138. -JC-
    Date: Mon, Feb 25 2008 18:26:06

    QUOTE (CPC @ Feb 25 2008, 12:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Even though I like to mod pens I will be buying some of these. The one kam had in the video looked nice.

    yeahh, the spinz in kam's video has really made me wanna get some of 'em
    even though i don't like double sided mods that much, that blue-greenish one that he used looked really nice happy.gif

  139. Katantoon
    Date: Mon, Feb 25 2008 18:28:35

    is there gonna be some pen in asia?

  140. Kam
    Date: Mon, Feb 25 2008 18:50:28

    QUOTE (Kyosuke @ Feb 24 2008, 10:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Where would these products be sold? In toy stores? Office stores?


    That's the cool about pen spinning pens. They can (and will likely) be available in both. From retailer stores like Walmart and Target, to toy stores like Toys R' Us, or office supply stores like Staples, these pens could be sold anywhere.

    Where they'll be available is a different story though. I don't know exactly which stores are gonna carry them, but I presented to all the ones I mentioned and they seem to like it. Whether they'll sell them or not is beyond me.

  141. Jamie Enns
    Date: Mon, Feb 25 2008 22:43:34

    QUOTE (-JC- @ Feb 25 2008, 12:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    yeahh, the spinz in kam's video has really made me wanna get some of 'em
    even though i don't like double sided mods that much, that blue-greenish one that he used looked really nice happy.gif


    what video!?!
    i hope you are not confused with the pen'z gear video

  142. Tama
    Date: Mon, Feb 25 2008 22:54:47

    Omg! =O These pens reminded me off Beyblade and B-damon... (Somehow..)
    Are these pens gonna be like those yoyos in HK?

  143. Jbiggie
    Date: Mon, Feb 25 2008 23:30:38

    [quote name='Tama' date='Feb 25 2008, 05:54 PM' post='56751']
    Omg! =O These pens reminded me off Beyblade and B-damon... (Somehow..)
    Are these pens gonna be like those yoyos in HK?
    [/quote\

    What pens are you talking about? Spinz look good from what I have seen!

  144. Leviathan
    Date: Mon, Feb 25 2008 23:53:23

    I don't like this. First of all, the name is terrible. Second, it looks like a boring double cap mod. I would like it a lot more if it looked like a regular pen, like an rsvp. Third, this could make people think that in order to pen spin, you need to go out and buy some type of special pen to do it, instead of being able to pick up any normal old pen and spin it. But since Kam had a part in this, I feel a little better, but still.

  145. bicspinner
    Date: Tue, Feb 26 2008 00:07:20

    I agree with the part where people think that in order to pen spin you need a spacial pen.. but anyways i definitely want to get my hands on them. What im worried about is that little kids or the pens might make penspinnign a little nerdy(not that i'm saying it is) or the good part which is bring penspinning to the next level......

  146. InhumanElmo
    Date: Tue, Feb 26 2008 00:27:29

    I'm not a big poster anymore on PS but this is what i have to say about the spinZ...
    /Rant

    Where I live, it used to be only me as a spinner. I kinda liked it because it was something I liked to do that was cool and kept me occupied. I was really big on PS, and i still am but not as much as I was on UCPSB. Since then I have gotten one of my best friends to pick PS up and its really cool. We both like it and we both like modding. Its like an art form for PS. We get to show off our individuality through our pens. Pen Spinning for me, was an individuality thing. Its something I knew how to do that set me apart from everyone else. Since then SO many people have picked it up. This is a good and bad thing... Good because Pen Spinning is getting some recognition and people aren't so negative about it.

    The bad part is that there are so many... how should I put this... Posers? For lack of a better term, these "Posers" sit around and only do the same trick! I know of more than 3 people, that I have to deal with on a daily basis that sit there, and charge ALL DAY! Now for those of you who are probably saying "Well thats all they know how to do, you have to start somewhere." No, absolutely not. They don't even try. They just sit there throwing out terms that they don't even know! The naivety of some of these people is just sickening! Some of my favorite statements from these people are "Oh I only like to do harmonics." and "What model number is that?", when they refer to a trick or a pen. They don't even know what a harmonic is! One example is someone who sits there and does a Cont. Charge, and calls it a harmonic. Last time i checked a harmonic was something like TA Harmonic referring to a Cont TA normal and TA Rev! The Addition of these pens just make it worse. Its bad enough that I have a few people like this bugging me everyday, but with the addition of these pens, its going to be nonstop! It pains me to see someone just stops at 2 minor tricks without an effort to continue, and calls themselves a pen spinner.

    Even worse is the fact that (not to gloat or anything, I'm not calling myself good or anything) I was one of the original Pen Spinners in my school. I picked up TA and Sonics from a friend, and I took it from there! But yet they consider themselves better than I am when they can't do half of the tricks I can! It hurts to be honest. I'm not against the pens themselves, just the repercussions. Believe me i have always wanted a pen that was built to be modified, built for performance, built solely for the spinning community. But I just fear that we will have an influx of these posers. Soon it will become like skateboarding for instance. Skateboarding took off! But when you get good, and then some kids show up thinking they are better than you that can't even ollie (Jumping with the board for those who don't know) is just terrible. Its hard to explain but one can build such a dislike for people like that. Sorry for the long rant, but those are my feelings.

    /EndRant
    No Flames please...

  147. sadi teh pirate
    Date: Tue, Feb 26 2008 00:46:45

    QUOTE (InhumanElmo @ Feb 25 2008, 07:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I'm not a big poster anymore on PS but this is what i have to say about the spinZ...
    /Rant

    Where I live, it used to be only me as a spinner. I kinda liked it because it was something I liked to do that was cool and kept me occupied. I was really big on PS, and i still am but not as much as I was on UCPSB. Since then I have gotten one of my best friends to pick PS up and its really cool. We both like it and we both like modding. Its like an art form for PS. We get to show off our individuality through our pens. Pen Spinning for me, was an individuality thing. Its something I knew how to do that set me apart from everyone else. Since then SO many people have picked it up. This is a good and bad thing... Good because Pen Spinning is getting some recognition and people aren't so negative about it.

    The bad part is that there are so many... how should I put this... Posers? For lack of a better term, these "Posers" sit around and only do the same trick! I know of more than 3 people, that I have to deal with on a daily basis that sit there, and charge ALL DAY! Now for those of you who are probably saying "Well thats all they know how to do, you have to start somewhere." No, absolutely not. They don't even try. They just sit there throwing out terms that they don't even know! The naivety of some of these people is just sickening! Some of my favorite statements from these people are "Oh I only like to do harmonics." and "What model number is that?", when they refer to a trick or a pen. They don't even know what a harmonic is! One example is someone who sits there and does a Cont. Charge, and calls it a harmonic. Last time i checked a harmonic was something like TA Harmonic referring to a Cont TA normal and TA Rev! The Addition of these pens just make it worse. Its bad enough that I have a few people like this bugging me everyday, but with the addition of these pens, its going to be nonstop! It pains me to see someone just stops at 2 minor tricks without an effort to continue, and calls themselves a pen spinner.

    Even worse is the fact that (not to gloat or anything, I'm not calling myself good or anything) I was one of the original Pen Spinners in my school. I picked up TA and Sonics from a friend, and I took it from there! But yet people consider spinners that can't do half of the things I do better than I am! It hurts to be honest. I'm not against the pens themselves, just the repercussions. Believe me i have always wanted a pen that was built to be modified, built for performance, built solely for the spinning community. But I just fear that we will have an influx of these posers. Soon it will become like skateboarding for instance. Skateboarding took off! But when you get good, and then some kids show up thinking they are better than you that can't even ollie (Jumping with the board for those who don't know) is just terrible. Its hard to explain but one can build such a dislike for people like that. Sorry for the long rant, but those are my feelings.

    /EndRant
    No Flames please...


    this isnt a flame or anything, and rlly it probably belongs in another post, but the only ACTUAL problem i see here is that "people consider spinners that can't do half of the things I do better than I am". my best tactic against this, is just to learn like shadows and twisted sonic busts an such, an then when they tell you they r better then, right after they do a TA, just show them what u can do an say "damn, ur sooo right, i wish i was as good as u ~_~"

  148. InhumanElmo
    Date: Tue, Feb 26 2008 00:49:13

    U dont know the people i have to deal with... they know what i can do. They are just... dumb. tongue.gif And the line you quoted was written wrong, but im glad you got what i was trying to say.

  149. Eso
    Date: Tue, Feb 26 2008 01:08:13

    QUOTE (InhumanElmo @ Feb 25 2008, 07:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    The bad part is that there are so many... how should I put this... Posers? For lack of a better term, these "Posers" sit around and only do the same trick! I know of more than 3 people, that I have to deal with on a daily basis that sit there, and charge ALL DAY! Now for those of you who are probably saying "Well thats all they know how to do, you have to start somewhere." No, absolutely not. They don't even try. They just sit there throwing out terms that they don't even know! The naivety of some of these people is just sickening! Some of my favorite statements from these people are "Oh I only like to do harmonics." and "What model number is that?", when they refer to a trick or a pen. They don't even know what a harmonic is! One example is someone who sits there and does a Cont. Charge, and calls it a harmonic. Last time i checked a harmonic was something like TA Harmonic referring to a Cont TA normal and TA Rev! The Addition of these pens just make it worse. Its bad enough that I have a few people like this bugging me everyday, but with the addition of these pens, its going to be nonstop! It pains me to see someone just stops at 2 minor tricks without an effort to continue, and calls themselves a pen spinner.


    I can see what you mean by "poser" but I hope that you're also not referring to just anybody that knows only 1 or 2 tricks. I know plenty of people that do just TA or Charge, but they do not flaunt their knowledge AT ALL. In fact, I'm sure more than 75% of us were exposed to pen spinning by these people. I just wanted to get this point clear across the board.


    I don't understand what's with the sigh of relief after hearing that Kam was involved. Sure, the pen will be designed in such a way that is beneficial to spinning, but the repercussions are out of Kam's control. I don't know if y'all believe that his involvement will keep it more "pure", but I think that's wishful thinking. Kam is just trying to spread PS, nothing more and nothing less. And for that, I am glad to see it happening.
    The negativity that's been going on in this thread isn't really helping anyone's cause, either. If you really don't want these 'posers' to emerge (even though there's plenty of them around the world anyways), perhaps you could try writing a letter to Jakks Pacific. Or you could just not teach anyone spinning. But I think it's absurd that some of you may think Kam holds the key to keeping the art form "pure".


    I thought art is something that enriches your own life, not about controlling others.

  150. Xero
    Date: Tue, Feb 26 2008 01:23:36

    People who say "I'm a Pen Spinner because I can do a TA" are along the same lines as people who say "I'm an artist because I can draw a stick figure".
    Modded pens blurs the line between pros and joes. SPINZ is going to make it even worse.
    I have a feeling this is going to affect PSing in the way Yo-Yoing was affected by all the other companies.
    They'll compete for the best product, and ruin the point of why they even made the product. :/

  151. Tama
    Date: Tue, Feb 26 2008 01:31:41

    I totally agree >.<
    This really reminded me of the time when I was still in HK playing yo-yo (It was popular back then).
    I see all these kids doing "walk the dog" and they called themselves "super yo-yo people" >.>
    In the future, you might see a lot of people showing off to each other with their TA skillz...

  152. Xero
    Date: Tue, Feb 26 2008 02:28:38

    I pray that day will never come.
    However, I do hope SPINZ will be a legitimate product. rolleyes.gif

  153. ultimatsz
    Date: Tue, Feb 26 2008 02:44:15

    i see people walk around just doing ta before. thinking that he is cool.. i also see people playing yoyo doing rock the baby and think they are pro. either of them can be silenced when i play my yoyo/pen.

  154. soulsonic
    Date: Tue, Feb 26 2008 02:47:18

    lol kam kuo xD the video was pretty interesting the spinz pens look alot nicer than i thought it would be. im not so excited about green but the blue one he had looked pretty nice, cant wait to get my hands on one of these
    heres the link btw

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/bryantpark/2008/0...er_pen_spi.html

  155. Zombo
    Date: Tue, Feb 26 2008 02:50:04

    who cares what other ppl think... if they think PS is about modding pens, show them some unmodded spinning and they'll be even more impressed.

    also who cares if there are posers, why would your enjoyment of your hobby be ruined because of someone else. ignore them and do what you like. if your enjoyment of pen spinning depends directly and mostly on the social status it gives you (such as being unique), you're not spinning for the right reasons...

  156. soulsonic
    Date: Tue, Feb 26 2008 03:20:15

    i agree completely with what your saying zombo, its your hobby shouldnt let anyone else ruin it for you, and theyre not posers for just knowing how to do charge, you guys gotta stop hating and should be happy that penspinning is getting big now. now maybe when you tell ppl that you mod pens maybe they wont look at you and think that your retarded.

  157. Jbiggie
    Date: Tue, Feb 26 2008 19:56:26

    Just saw the Penz Gear site! Looks really lame! WHATS UP WITH THAT VIDEO?

  158. Imagm-1337
    Date: Tue, Feb 26 2008 21:12:14

    Can we take the parts off the pen and use it to put on other mods?

  159. Tama
    Date: Tue, Feb 26 2008 22:32:33

    QUOTE (Imagm-1337 @ Feb 26 2008, 04:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Can we take the parts off the pen and use it to put on other mods?

    Not sure.. =O If we can, this might be a good news to us all! XD

  160. darkeh
    Date: Tue, Feb 26 2008 22:52:12

    QUOTE (Jbiggie @ Feb 26 2008, 02:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Just saw the Penz Gear site! Looks really lame! WHATS UP WITH THAT VIDEO?

    These are SPINZ, not Penz Gear...

  161. Cybrax
    Date: Wed, Feb 27 2008 04:42:43

    I think elementary kids will be more attracted to these.
    People over middle school won't be leaning to buy these.
    I remember when I was young, I was always attracted to buy toys until 6th grade. Toys was starting to seem ridiculous.
    Their number of sales are most likely to be slim but in my eyes, these toys/pens are for our amusement. But who knows?


    Good Luck Spinz.

    Im gonna buy only one.

  162. ArchAngel2
    Date: Wed, Feb 27 2008 05:37:49

    Ya... i get irritated when other people show off thier noob tricks......
    but a good way to shut them up is to show off your freestyles tongue.gif
    it blows thier mind laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

    i'm actually looking forward to the day it comes out.....
    7 bucks!!............ ohmy.gif
    why are they so expensive?!?!?!?! huh.gif

  163. ultimatsz
    Date: Wed, Feb 27 2008 12:14:20

    it did be fun to see a spinz mx LOL.. to modify a modified pen..

    well what dathroat told me today was kina true.. next time other people will say this when you are spinning modded pens.. "use a real spinning pen (spinz)"

  164. iNoob
    Date: Wed, Feb 27 2008 12:34:12

    lol how come u met him today

  165. Eso
    Date: Wed, Feb 27 2008 13:49:23

    QUOTE (ArchAngel2 @ Feb 27 2008, 12:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    7 bucks!!............ ohmy.gif
    why are they so expensive?!?!?!?! huh.gif


    Judging from the picture, it also comes with a booklet and some other accessories. I remember most toys being just as expensive. TMNT action figures were like $7-8 and probably still are.

  166. DaThroat
    Date: Wed, Feb 27 2008 14:50:51

    Off Topic: @iNoob, Stay on topic thank you. tongue.gif


    On Topic: I don't know whether I should be looking forward to SPINZ or not. People new to pen spinning may end up thinking what they are spinning is the 'real stuff', while the sticks/pens we modded ourselves is nonsense. This is fine, if they can listen to reason and admit that they were wrong when shown concrete proof that pen spinning has been around longer than SPINZ, but some guys can get really stubborn and it bugs me to the core. sad.gif

    On the flip side, I guess I'm glad that pen spinning is becoming 'Big'. laugh.gif

  167. Novastrike
    Date: Wed, Feb 27 2008 15:08:01

    Come to think about it, it's kinda sucks.
    I think it's better for those new spinners not to know about UPSB or other boards to prevent corruption. Can't be help, they will be alot ass people around.
    Maybe SpinZ should have their own forum like what Ultimatsz told me today.

    SpinZ are expensive? My point of view, not really. Imagine some of our mods cost more then that.

  168. Jbiggie
    Date: Wed, Feb 27 2008 17:30:29

    I dont think they are expensive compared to ordering or buying multiple pens.

  169. soulsonic
    Date: Wed, Feb 27 2008 23:50:03

    price seems reasonable ive bought regular pens and stuff around that price, like dr.grip and shaker stuff which cost 10 bucks + and some mods out there added up cost alot more like dr.kt maybe even mx if you use more than one rsvp so i think its a fair price i would still buy it.

  170. NoRice4U
    Date: Thu, Feb 28 2008 00:07:03

    scratchchin.gif I've been wondering if SPINZ counts as a regular pen, or a pen mod, lol

  171. Missle_Z
    Date: Thu, Feb 28 2008 00:11:51

    I don't really like the whole SPINZ idea either, other than advertising for pen spinning and helping it's community to grow.
    I have a few friends that I taught tricks, and they actually walk around in the halls....doing that trick.
    Does anyone find that a bit weird??
    And my friends aren't really into pen spinning, they just said
    "Oh that's cool I'm learning that."
    After they saw me doing it in class.
    No one is really into it. SPINZ...I just don't like the idea.
    I'd say there's something fishy about it but there isn't, I just don't like it , the idea of selling these pens...

  172. sadi teh pirate
    Date: Thu, Feb 28 2008 01:05:58

    i dont get why everybody is predicting that anyone who sees SPINZ will be snobish about pen spinning. regardless of whether your spinning a Dr.KT or a chopstick, its the spinning that matters...not the pen....

    @archangel2 : a Dr.Grip costs 7 dollars in the U.S.....

  173. soulsonic
    Date: Thu, Feb 28 2008 01:10:23

    they cost 7 bucks?! im getting ripped -___- dr.grip here is 10 bucks and the mech dr.grip is 13

  174. Huroni
    Date: Thu, Feb 28 2008 01:46:09

    Go back on topic please...


    My friends said they would buy the SPINZ. I may have to buy for some, but they said they would love to have their own spinning pen....they see me free styling on a daily basis, and they are always telling me, teach me! I think Spinz will help....The booklet...haha, will have how to do all fundamentals..When my classmates learn, they will be like, HOW TO DO MORE TRICKS?! And Ill lol away, and teach them. Then I bring some to my house, and we have collab...would be real cool!

  175. Sfsr
    Date: Thu, Feb 28 2008 10:05:06

    QUOTE (Huroni @ Feb 28 2008, 02:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    My friends said they would buy the SPINZ. I may have to buy for some, but they said they would love to have their own spinning pen....they see me free styling on a daily basis, and they are always telling me, teach me! I think Spinz will help....The booklet...haha, will have how to do all fundamentals..When my classmates learn, they will be like, HOW TO DO MORE TRICKS?! And Ill lol away, and teach them. Then I bring some to my house, and we'll have wild monkey sex...would be real cool!

    Fix'd :D

    Ueäh, there's no reason AT ALL to fear for the future, @ everyone who's complaining. It's your choice what you want penspinning to be, if you don't like Spinz then keep away from them. Nothing will change for you unless you want something to change. I will definitely embrace this change, as it seems to be to the better. Or at least a step in the right direction.

  176. Jbiggie
    Date: Thu, Feb 28 2008 23:47:02

    This will be good for PS! If you dont want to use SpinZ dont. It wont affect you at all.

    All this will do is help PS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  177. sadi teh pirate
    Date: Sat, Mar 1 2008 19:37:06

    did they come out today?
    or am i just stupid?

  178. Huroni
    Date: Sat, Mar 1 2008 19:57:37

    Did you see them in stock anywhere?



    OMG EDIT IMPORTANT
    LOOK WHAT I JUST FOUND!

    http://www.kidsturncentral.com/topics/toys/tn021708oo.htm

  179. Novastrike
    Date: Sat, Mar 1 2008 20:09:36

    Different lvl? @@
    If it's coming to Singapore, maybe I will buy all those different lvl of pens and try spinning with it.

  180. sadi teh pirate
    Date: Sat, Mar 1 2008 20:30:36

    QUOTE (Huroni @ Mar 1 2008, 02:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Did you see them in stock anywhere?



    OMG EDIT IMPORTANT
    LOOK WHAT I JUST FOUND!

    http://www.kidsturncentral.com/topics/toys/tn021708oo.htm


    YAYZORS!!!!!

  181. Rorix
    Date: Sat, Mar 1 2008 21:13:55

    There's a spin me sticker on the front? How do you spin a packaged pen?

  182. sadi teh pirate
    Date: Sat, Mar 1 2008 21:36:46

    maybe they come with sound effects and that was like a "push me" button lolz...

  183. Clam
    Date: Sat, Mar 1 2008 22:07:56

    Umm... $19.99 for the expert one WTF

  184. iMatt
    Date: Sat, Mar 1 2008 22:13:01

    you guys honestly need to think about how retail works. Remember the Butterfly Yoyo when that originally came out. IT was decently expensive too. 20$ is a bit steep to us, but then again we know our pen bargain hunting. These are all pre-made materials for customization. The expert one just costs more because of umpteen accessories that come with it.

  185. NoRice4U
    Date: Sat, Mar 1 2008 23:31:43

    QUOTE (Huroni @ Mar 1 2008, 11:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Did you see them in stock anywhere?



    OMG EDIT IMPORTANT
    LOOK WHAT I JUST FOUND!

    http://www.kidsturncentral.com/topics/toys/tn021708oo.htm


    wow.. kids toys? what the fuck? fuck you spinz and i bet the 19.99 one is gonna be as heavy as an mx^2.... i seriously have a feeling this is going to ruin ps and people will be showing off their "charge skills"

  186. TeddyTemptation
    Date: Sat, Mar 1 2008 23:50:32

    penspinning's gonna be no fun if the mods are premade...

  187. Jbiggie
    Date: Sun, Mar 2 2008 04:51:44

    You guys need to relax. Spin me probobly means you can spin part of the package. What do you want them to look like???????????

    They have to look good if they want to sell. Most people dont know what PS is!!!!!!!!!!!

    Why don't you just hold off judgement untill we see them!

    You guys need to relax. Spin me probobly means you can spin part of the package. What do you want them to look like???????????

    They have to look good if they want to sell. Most people dont know what PS is!!!!!!!!!!!

    Why don't you just hold off judgement untill we see them!

  188. NoRice4U
    Date: Sun, Mar 2 2008 05:04:41

    QUOTE (Jbiggie @ Mar 1 2008, 08:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    You guys need to relax. Spin me probobly means you can spin part of the package. What do you want them to look like???????????

    They have to look good if they want to sell. Most people dont know what PS is!!!!!!!!!!!

    Why don't you just hold off judgement untill we see them!

    You guys need to relax. Spin me probobly means you can spin part of the package. What do you want them to look like???????????

    They have to look good if they want to sell. Most people dont know what PS is!!!!!!!!!!!

    Why don't you just hold off judgement untill we see them!


    we're not ranting about the looks....

  189. Invincibleman
    Date: Sun, Mar 2 2008 20:16:05

    I just had a thought. Ya know what would be annoying; is if when SPINZ came out there was a whole new crowd of pen spinners who only used SPINZ. Then they thought that us pen spinners who used mods were losers because we tried to copy spinz... that would suck. I was excited about SPINZ at first but now it seems that the MX warrior's and Commsa soldier's time may be running out.

  190. InhumanElmo
    Date: Sun, Mar 2 2008 20:20:45

    ^ Thank you! I totally agree with what your saying.

  191. Sfsr
    Date: Sun, Mar 2 2008 20:24:19

    Well you guys are conservative and sensetive to what other people think about yourself and penspinning so we'll just go straight ahead and ignore your opinions :D

  192. sadi teh pirate
    Date: Sun, Mar 2 2008 20:54:41

    QUOTE (Sfsr @ Mar 2 2008, 03:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Well you guys are conservative and sensetive to what other people think about yourself and penspinning so we'll just go straight ahead and ignore your opinions biggrin.gif


    totally agree.....

    besides...there is no way in hell people are going to call themselves better at pen spinning just because they have an "official pen spinning pen" rofl....

  193. Fang
    Date: Sun, Mar 2 2008 21:05:58

    and we can use our fierce and patriotic to pen spinning logic to make sure those noobs know that we started first and pen modding came before spinz. its not all bad if spinz is gonna be produced guys just teach those who are arrogant to back off

    edit: ahaha tongue.gif i ment spinz

  194. Missle_Z
    Date: Sun, Mar 2 2008 21:12:45

    I have EXTREMELY mixed feelings about SPINZ, one day I like it, another day I don't.
    I don't know why.
    But I take back what I said before about buying SPINZ with a hood on and all, because if I really cared about what people thought of me I wouldn't be spinning.
    This is because I'm known grade 8-wide as a geek. They all think that pen spinning is nerdy, but I think it's gangster xD
    Yeah now the only thing I don't like about SPINZ is the faux spinners, the "posers".

  195. xxdefinitionxx
    Date: Sun, Mar 2 2008 22:22:47

    i hope these products do horribly..

  196. NoRice4U
    Date: Sun, Mar 2 2008 22:27:07

    Exploiting lesser known hobbies to make money :/ is my point but what makes it official? NOTHING wink.gif

  197. Zombo
    Date: Sun, Mar 2 2008 23:42:09

    do you guys all have a crystal ball or something?

    because I haven't seen a SpinZ-only spinning poseur so far.

  198. Kam
    Date: Mon, Mar 3 2008 05:41:33

    QUOTE (TeddyTemptation @ Mar 1 2008, 03:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    penspinning's gonna be no fun if the mods are premade...


    First, pen spinning is fun whether you mod pens or don't. You may say that it's more fun because you can also mod pens, but that doesn't mean people have to mod them. Just think about 10 years ago...there were no pen modding, yet people still spun pens and had a lot of fun.

    Second, Spinz is not gonna stop people from modding. In fact, I just made my first Axis mod using the tip from another pen, and some other stuff to make it look and spin better. It didn't take a long as making a MX, but it was still fun nonetheless.

    QUOTE (Invincibleman @ Mar 2 2008, 12:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I just had a thought. Ya know what would be annoying; is if when SPINZ came out there was a whole new crowd of pen spinners who only used SPINZ. Then they thought that us pen spinners who used mods were losers because we tried to copy spinz... that would suck. I was excited about SPINZ at first but now it seems that the MX warrior's and Commsa soldier's time may be running out.


    Hmm...if you think about it, people who spun prior to pen mods' existence could say the same thing about us....the irony, lol. But seriously, that won't happen...as long as we keep our resources and community up, we will teach new spinners about the history of PS.


  199. Eso
    Date: Mon, Mar 3 2008 06:04:39

    Well, as long as UPSB and other boards hold up, we have hard proof of how long we actually have been spinning. Of course, I don't really care if people believe me or not.

    I'd like to think of it this way. For you nay-sayers, you act as if you don't want PS to be spread. If we all adopted that attitude, most of you probably wouldn't have learned of us in the first place, and probably wouldn't have the resources, competition, and friends that you have now.

  200. iNoob
    Date: Mon, Mar 3 2008 10:17:36

    i have nothing against it AS LONG AS ITS SOLD IN SINGAPORE. wtfbbq we're running out of pen modding materials here. Kam what's the diameter of SpinZ(compared with other pens)

  201. InhumanElmo
    Date: Mon, Mar 3 2008 11:39:02

    I dont care about if pen spinning isnt spread. I hope it is, but from prior experiences with stuff like this, things did not end well. Atleast in my area, I dont know about you guys.

  202. BananaKetchup
    Date: Mon, Mar 3 2008 11:41:32

    Pre-made manipulation toys never seem to go down well

  203. Outlander
    Date: Mon, Mar 3 2008 16:03:19

    QUOTE (Kam @ Mar 3 2008, 12:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    In fact, I just made my first Axis mod using the tip from another pen, and some other stuff to make it look and spin better. It didn't take a long as making a MX, but it was still fun nonetheless.


    I hope you will show us what your spinz mod (lol modding a pen made for spinning) looks like once they are released in April happy.gif

    Also I have a question about the different models. With the AXIS line, is it basically like the lower ranging models but with added weights? Because I'm probably going to get myslef a few of these and was wondering if I should buy an AXIS as well as a lower ranging one or if they are essentially the same.

    Which was the type that you spun in that video interview on NPR? AXIS? huh.gif

  204. Jbiggie
    Date: Mon, Mar 3 2008 19:06:38

    Why is it funny to Mod a pen made for pen spinning?????

    Is it funny to change Rims on a Porsche???

    Its a cool car but people want to make it cooler or make it fit their style.

    People stylize everything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  205. sketching
    Date: Mon, Mar 3 2008 21:33:34

    People should settle down. Yeesh. Did the Comssa mod ruin pen spinning? How about the Compirat? The Dr. KT? Jetpens? Penwish? ...No? Why should these be any different? As I've said before, if the parts are useful, tear the pens apart for your own mods. At the prices shown in Huroni's link, I doubt that I'll ever purchase anything other than a Zero to try out, but it's not like I need to try them anyways. You just know that the people who spend $50+ USD at Penwish on a single purchase will have all the different levels as soon as they come out, photograph every individual part and compare those to existing pen parts that we already know about. They will be dissected and examined just like any other newly introduced pen mods.

    @Invisibleman: if people actually make fun of you for using old-style mods, then either ignore them like you do anyone else who makes fun of you for any other PS reason or let them know what they are missing from ignoring the possibilities of other pen parts and pen mods.

    People who use SpinZ will be no different than the people who join UPSB and their first post is asking which pen mod they NEED TO USE to become an AMAZING pen spinner. If they find their way here, we'll let them know what's really going on (with only a small amount of harrassment tongue.gif).

  206. Leviathan
    Date: Mon, Mar 3 2008 22:34:28

    QUOTE (sketching @ Mar 3 2008, 03:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    People should settle down. Yeesh. Did the Comssa mod ruin pen spinning? ... The Dr. KT?

    Yes...but that's another argument.

    Anyway, spinz won't ruin modding. I'm more concerned that when people see spinz commercials and stuff, they will think that in order to pen spin, you have to buy spinz. I'm guessing pen spinning will become a fad, like yo-yos, and then the whole thing will blow over, and then the real pen spinners will be left, still discussing PS online.

  207. Invincibleman
    Date: Mon, Mar 3 2008 23:22:55

    QUOTE (Eso @ Mar 3 2008, 01:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Well, as long as UPSB and other boards hold up, we have hard proof of how long we actually have been spinning. Of course, I don't really care if people believe me or not.

    I'd like to think of it this way. For you nay-sayers, you act as if you don't want PS to be spread. If we all adopted that attitude, most of you probably wouldn't have learned of us in the first place, and probably wouldn't have the resources, competition, and friends that you have now.

    You and Kam are probably right, without either of you two I wouldn't have hardly any idea what pen spinning is. Considering that I learned just about every trick I know either from pentrix or your tutorials. I guess saying that we don't Spinz to spread because people would start copying us would be like Kam saying that he didn't want people to copy his MX so he never told us how to make it.

  208. sketching
    Date: Mon, Mar 3 2008 23:48:54

    QUOTE (Leviathan @ Mar 3 2008, 03:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    ...Anyway, spinz won't ruin modding. I'm more concerned that when people see spinz commercials and stuff, they will think that in order to pen spin, you have to buy spinz. I'm guessing pen spinning will become a fad, like yo-yos, and then the whole thing will blow over, and then the real pen spinners will be left, still discussing PS online.

    I don't see it as any different than what people are already doing, coming to the forums assuming that they need a pen mod right away. People are asking what pen mod is best for Fundamentals (!) when a pen mod is not needed at all. I am annoyed though that the website Huroni links to says that PS invIf someone who entered PS because of Spinz happens to find his way here, there's plenty of info around to point him in if there is any interest. If not, then there are the actual tricks or him to learn about. The main problem, IMO, with PS being a fad would be keeping trick names from changing as people continue to think that they invented tricks and throw out more names.

    I wonder how many people from existing PS boards will sign up for the Spinz forums once they open?

    Edit: oh yeah, I'm also not at all a fan of limited edition pens with codes that will unlock tricks on the website!

  209. K4S
    Date: Tue, Mar 4 2008 00:13:20

    If SPINZ starts their own forum instead of linking to here i'll sign up, post a new video/pictures of my LED mods, be like "haha look what i did with my SPINZ mod" and then never answer PM's and disappear back to UPSB hahahah.gif

  210. Leviathan
    Date: Tue, Mar 4 2008 00:32:19

    QUOTE (sketching @ Mar 3 2008, 05:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I don't see it as any different than what people are already doing, coming to the forums assuming that they need a pen mod right away. People are asking what pen mod is best for Fundamentals (!) when a pen mod is not needed at all.


    Yeah, I agree, that's what I don't like. It seems like spinz will further that problem. Every trick there is can be done with a bic round stic.

  211. kspin
    Date: Tue, Mar 4 2008 00:48:53

    I think sketching has a very good point about tricks being renamed. Someone should get on the spinz forums as soon as they go up to aviod this problem.

  212. InhumanElmo
    Date: Tue, Mar 4 2008 02:11:40

    If you ask me i think spinz should join up with us! That way WE control the tricks and stuff. I mean we have been around long enough to have alot of authority over them. /JK!!! But honestly i think it would be SO funny to get a spinz pen and then look at an instruction booklet that is bound to come with it and see some of the names of the tricks they use. Could u imagine like a sonic being called a flip, and a sonic rise a flipper, or something ghey like that. That would be AMAZING!

  213. Clam
    Date: Tue, Mar 4 2008 02:28:47

    idk... iirc that bic academy website used the correct nomenclature, so i would think spinz would be informed enough to do the same.

  214. Fang
    Date: Tue, Mar 4 2008 02:57:04

    QUOTE (InhumanElmo @ Mar 3 2008, 06:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    If you ask me i think spinz should join up with us! That way WE control the tricks and stuff. I mean we have been around long enough to have alot of authority over them. /JK!!! But honestly i think it would be SO funny to get a spinz pen and then look at an instruction booklet that is bound to come with it and see some of the names of the tricks they use. Could u imagine like a sonic being called a flip, and a sonic rise a flipper, or something ghey like that. That would be AMAZING!


    Kams been working with these guys i pretty sure he had the power to tell them what the fundementals actual names are.
    and you know what calm down people like zombo and sketching and kam (and others sry if i didnt mention u), "This isn't going to ruin pen spinning. If you feel like ppl are gonna come up to u and be like look i got spinz that means im btr then u then ignore then or just prove to them that our mods have been around so much longer. If u worry about names how bout when the spinz website comes out why dont you go there and why don't you teach them the correct namings and why don't you take action? It's as simple as that don't come down here on the spinz thread complaining about what other people will do when you're not even taking the time to maybe say, "hey i can do somethng about this when it happens." So quit ur whining and get over it. You want to change something then go take action.

  215. sketching
    Date: Tue, Mar 4 2008 03:25:57

    QUOTE
    Kams been working with these guys i pretty sure he had the power to tell them what the fundementals actual names are.

    ...and you know what calm down people like zombo and sketching and kam...
    @Fang: First, your post doesn't make much sense. Second, did you actually read any of our posts? We are the ones telling to people to calm down. huh.gif

    I fully plan on signing up for the Spinz forums and have no problem with directing the members away from those forums to other websites to correct any wrong information. It just depends on whether those forums will allow that sort of thing or whether the admin(s) want people stay on the company forums.

  216. InhumanElmo
    Date: Tue, Mar 4 2008 03:30:23

    Did u guys miss the whole j/k thing? For those who dont know it means JUST KIDDING. It was a joke. People really are uptight in this thread... As far as I see it Here are the pros and cons collected from a bunch of people.

    PROS:
    Pens just for spinning available more easily
    Spread of PS
    More modding possibilities with the spinz pens

    Cons:
    Surplus of noobs
    Possibility of the same fate as yoyoing

    ^ THOSE ARE EXTREMELY EXTREMELY GENERALIZED STATEMENTS!
    NO FLAMES!

  217. Fang
    Date: Tue, Mar 4 2008 03:30:40

    of course it made sense...i think happy.gif (has trouble making sense alot) was trying to say you guys were telling them not being them heheheh tongue.gif

    and i believe most of the ppl who are not calm have become psycho because of the reasons i listed and yes i did read most of the posts

  218. sketching
    Date: Tue, Mar 4 2008 03:52:40

    @Fang: Ah, okay.

    @InhumanElmo: I don't think anyone even responded to your post. tongue.gif

  219. Fang
    Date: Tue, Mar 4 2008 03:56:41

    i kinda did but only to his naming think nothing else

  220. Missle_Z
    Date: Tue, Mar 4 2008 04:10:14

    QUOTE (K4S @ Mar 3 2008, 04:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    If SPINZ starts their own forum instead of linking to here i'll sign up, post a new video/pictures of my LED mods, be like "haha look what i did with my SPINZ mod" and then never answer PM's and disappear back to UPSB hahahah.gif


    ROFLOLMFAO that's exactly what I was thinking to do too. x)

  221. Novastrike
    Date: Tue, Mar 4 2008 04:20:27

    Adding one more cons to SpinZ, all the teachers will start going crazy.

  222. Crzyazn
    Date: Tue, Mar 4 2008 04:57:58

    Ages 6+


    great....... laugh.gif

  223. sadi teh pirate
    Date: Tue, Mar 4 2008 05:17:35

    QUOTE (Novastrike @ Mar 3 2008, 11:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Adding one more cons to SpinZ, all the teachers will start going crazy.

    pshhhhh....they dont already rofl?

  224. Gavin-kun
    Date: Tue, Mar 4 2008 15:37:53

    Haha!!!
    These pens are like cool but I don't think that I'll find them in Mauritius wacko.gif
    Even pen modding is nearly impossible as pen spinning is not well known in Mauritius bawling.gif
    I'm also the only PSer in my class xD

  225. Leviathan
    Date: Tue, Mar 4 2008 18:15:23

    QUOTE (Fang @ Mar 3 2008, 08:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    So quit ur whining and get over it. You want to change something then go take action.

    We're not whining, we're just arguing a different view. I could say your post is whining, but it's not.

    This thread is the only place to take action. There's no other place to talk about this yet.

  226. Kirbynator
    Date: Tue, Mar 4 2008 18:56:44

    I think SPINZ dont let the fun dissapear out of PS. You dont have to buy it but it makes PS more famous and i think thats our aim isnt it? Im already happy when i see some spinners on TV 'cause they want to spread PS, i was alread yin TV too and it was a good feeling to represent Germany and spreading PS in here.
    I think SPINZ will dont "damage" PS and wtf i want this shirt kam xD

  227. InhumanElmo
    Date: Tue, Mar 4 2008 20:04:30

    True, but SPINZ don't look... i dunno. They honestly are what they are. They are toys. They look like toys, not like pens really. But i guess if u wanna go that route u have start somewhere.

  228. Eso
    Date: Tue, Mar 4 2008 20:46:22

    QUOTE (Leviathan @ Mar 4 2008, 01:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    This thread is the only place to take action. There's no other place to talk about this yet.


    There's other ways you can take action. Send an email to Jakks Pacific, make a petition and send it to Jakks Pacific; picket outside stores when they are released; write a blog about it and attract thousands.

    Honestly, I think if you aren't for it, talking about it here won't do much good. Not much 'action', if you ask me. mellow.gif

  229. iMatt
    Date: Tue, Mar 4 2008 22:48:24

    QUOTE (Eso @ Mar 4 2008, 02:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    There's other ways you can take action. Send an email to Jakks Pacific, make a petition and send it to Jakks Pacific; picket outside stores when they are released; write a blog about it and attract thousands.

    Honestly, I think if you aren't for it, talking about it here won't do much good. Not much 'action', if you ask me. mellow.gif



    yeah, Eso has a point. If it hurts, don't do it. If you don't like it, CHANGE IT!!!!!

    And thank god College Profs don't care about pen spinning. If you ever need to justify your Pen-spinning, just say you have a minor case of turrets and need to channel the twitching somehow. That there will work every fucken time. smile.gif

  230. Fang
    Date: Tue, Mar 4 2008 23:43:11

    QUOTE (Leviathan @ Mar 4 2008, 10:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    We're not whining, we're just arguing a different view.


    id have to kinda disagree and say some ppl actually are whining. if u look back u can see ppl say i dont like spinz its gay or its gonna ruin ps, but saying that without backing it up is pretty much whining on its own. and only a few people are "arguing" id say alot are more on the whiney side

  231. Leviathan
    Date: Wed, Mar 5 2008 03:15:49

    Yeah, I guess some are whining, but some aren't.

    QUOTE (Eso @ Mar 4 2008, 02:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    There's other ways you can take action. Send an email to Jakks Pacific, make a petition and send it to Jakks Pacific; picket outside stores when they are released; write a blog about it and attract thousands.

    The first 3 wouldn't do anything, but I guess a blog could attract some people.

  232. Missle_Z
    Date: Wed, Mar 5 2008 04:31:43

    QUOTE (iMatt @ Mar 4 2008, 02:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    yeah, Eso has a point. If it hurts, don't do it. If you don't like it, CHANGE IT!!!!!

    And thank god College Profs don't care about pen spinning. If you ever need to justify your Pen-spinning, just say you have a minor case of turrets and need to channel the twitching somehow. That there will work every fucken time. smile.gif


    ROFL

    Turrets=Guns
    Tourettes=Mental diease thingy

    I take back nearly everything I said before, I am totally up for SPINZ. It will help PS grow, because I hate being the only one.(in my school or around me) Anyone who says it will take the fun out of PS, they obviously aren't devoted to it. And if you think that it will ruin making mods it won't because you can still make mods. If people make fun of you and say
    "haha you're using an old school mod, what a loser"
    Then you just say
    "roflolmao, you're mod doesn't even look like a pen, it looks like a baton, so you can't call it PS, you have to call it BS." biglaugh.gif

    I know I'm backtracking here a bit but I'm just trying to see everything for everyone's point of view and gather my thoughts.

    IMO, SPINZ can only help the PS'ing community except for those PS'ers who are too self-conscious.If you're scared too much of what other people think about you. That's weak. You don't wanna be weak do you? Didn't think so.

  233. sadi teh pirate
    Date: Wed, Mar 5 2008 05:09:50

    QUOTE (Missle_Z @ Mar 4 2008, 11:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    If people make fun of you and say
    "haha you're using an old school mod, what a loser"


    rofl....if someone actually says that, i will start crying from laughter....

    Personally all i think will happen, is that people will recognize pen spinning more, with any luck, respect it more...right now im just hoping they cost less lol....

  234. iNoob
    Date: Wed, Mar 5 2008 11:09:28

    lol. mind if i ask, i think this is hardly a regular pen, so what is it in the regular pen discussion subforum? lol

  235. Outlander
    Date: Wed, Mar 5 2008 15:59:10

    People at my university ask me all the time to make them a "cool" pen like the ones I have. When these come out I can tell them to go to toys r' us and buy a Spinz. tongue.gif

  236. sketching
    Date: Thu, Mar 6 2008 02:42:39

    QUOTE (iNoob @ Mar 5 2008, 04:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    lol. mind if i ask, i think this is hardly a regular pen, so what is it in the regular pen discussion subforum? lol

    Spinz are stock pens in that they are pens that are being talked about as they are (to be) bought. Once people start using them modifications beyond the original intend, discussion will move over to the other forum. Just because they are sold with removable parts, they are still just pens at this point.

  237. InhumanElmo
    Date: Thu, Mar 6 2008 03:07:05

    QUOTE (Outlander @ Mar 5 2008, 10:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    People at my university ask me all the time to make them a "cool" pen like the ones I have. When these come out I can tell them to go to toys r' us and buy a Spinz. tongue.gif


    I get that alot, but still it would be REALLY annoying to see people think they're hot with their spinz pens not even doing a trick. They just stick the pen in between their fingers and wave their hand around going "Oooooooo!"

  238. sketching
    Date: Thu, Mar 6 2008 19:38:30

    I am interested to see what kind of directions the instruction booklets hold. @InhumanElmo: I assume that the booklets will get people to learn a few trick atleast, like yo-yos that have a few tricks for people to learn from.

  239. InhumanElmo
    Date: Thu, Mar 6 2008 21:41:45

    Yea I hope so. Maybe this could be an end to the madness at my school!

  240. Invincibleman
    Date: Thu, Mar 6 2008 21:46:55

    It will probably have the fundamentals; and maybe a few other tricks like infinity.

  241. sadi teh pirate
    Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 00:46:12

    lol, i love how they say "and unclock new tricks online"....i bet they are going to have diffrent codes for all the tricks so u hafta buy a ton of their products to get them all lolz....

  242. Outlander
    Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 02:27:34

    ehh. I think they're just refering to get mor trick tuts, go onto their website. I assume theyll have some tricks there when it goes live.

  243. Jbiggie
    Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 17:37:57

    Whatever they do their website has to better than Penz Gear!!!!!!!!!

    Their pens dont look very good!

    The Spinz pen Kam used looked good.


  244. InhumanElmo
    Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 18:39:37

    Wow i cant believe i didnt see this before, but hes talking about Spinz Gear from a japanese company called FuriFuri. Video is kinda cheesy but the pens aren't all that bad looking. Typical double sided, but they look pretty cool. Since I haven't seen a detailed picture of the Spinz i can't really decide.
    http://www.takaratomy.co.jp/products/penzgear/

  245. Zombo
    Date: Sat, Mar 8 2008 19:11:43

    we should sepearte the two..

    this thread is about SPINZ, from Jakks Pacific...

    I'll make another thread for PEN'Z GEAR by TOMY

  246. Platypusvictim
    Date: Sun, Mar 9 2008 08:13:55

    My only beef with this is:

    QUOTE
    SpinZ Zero pens are capable of Multiple tricks.....SpinZ Ronin are capable of unlimited tricks.....SpinZ Axis is capable of expert tricks....


    I mean WTF, trying to cash in on innocent un-informed nubs. Telling them that you have to buy more pens to be able to do harder tricks.

    Also the fact that these seem to be aimed at kids, with the whole ages 6+ thing and the entire look of it.

    But then again, PS is underground enough already, I doubt these will reach an audience that wasn't already aware of pen spinning.

  247. InhumanElmo
    Date: Sun, Mar 9 2008 14:14:39

    Its called the power of Television and their Commercials.

  248. Jbiggie
    Date: Sun, Mar 9 2008 16:51:31

    you have to put a an age on most products I think!


  249. Zombo
    Date: Mon, Mar 10 2008 15:59:58

    just cause it says age 6+ doesn't mean you HAVE to be 6...

    why would they write more than that... it would just limit their target market, which is stupid.

    basically they put the lowest age one can be to use these pens safely... regardless of if you can spin or not.

    if you're younger than that, you might choke on the parts or hurt yourself.

  250. Novastrike
    Date: Mon, Mar 10 2008 16:30:37

    That's the reason why small kids only write with pencils I guess...

  251. cyshing
    Date: Mon, Mar 10 2008 16:36:03

    lol, change my mind. will try spinz if they're not too expensive and available in toy'r'us.

  252. Novastrike
    Date: Mon, Mar 10 2008 17:15:16

    I saw the word "Playthings" while I was watching kam's video. Not sure they will be importing it or not.
    If so, I think you can find it at Toys"R'Us when it's release.

  253. Jun
    Date: Tue, Mar 11 2008 00:15:41

    well, whatever we think of this pen, we all knew a pen thats made for spinning was going to come out some day...

  254. sadi teh pirate
    Date: Tue, Mar 11 2008 03:56:56

    QUOTE (Jun @ Mar 10 2008, 07:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    well, whatever we think of this pen, we all knew a pen thats made for spinning was going to come out some day...


    lol...for me it was the other way around....i didnt realize how very large penspinning was, until the idea of SPINZ came out...

  255. ultimatsz
    Date: Tue, Mar 11 2008 10:57:00

    not sure but.. i just remembered that in the you know when you are a ps addict when... those kind of topics.. i remember seeing

    you wished that there are pen made for spinning or

    wished to work for pen company to make a spinning pen..

    wish came true.. but so many people dont really like the idea..

    my thinking is that.. it will make people interested in psing.. and those that continued will use any pen / modded pen whatever..

    because it is the spinner that makes the pen.. not the pen that makes the spinner...

    well anyways.. if there are posers that spin spinz only.. it does not really matter.. there are posers spinning big stics and stuff like that... it is still the same..

    dont think that spinz is a modded pen or whatever.. take it as a pen.. a pen is a pen..

  256. WhiteFang
    Date: Tue, Mar 11 2008 10:59:38

    if SPINZ comes out and we spin with them. would that be considered as spinning unmodded pen?

  257. Salvis
    Date: Tue, Mar 11 2008 11:06:50

    Kinda yes. I think it will be like this - moded pens. unmoded pens and SPINZ (bought) pens. And if you manualy modify your SPINZ with parts like dr kt's rsvp's ect pen parts then it will be moded pen. biggrin.gif

  258. Novastrike
    Date: Tue, Mar 11 2008 16:23:54

    For me, I see SpinZ itself as a mod.

  259. Jbiggie
    Date: Tue, Mar 11 2008 20:34:02

    I got some pictures of some SpinZ pens. How can I insert them? It keep bringing me to a insert URL. I just have a couple jpegs.

  260. nolan
    Date: Tue, Mar 11 2008 20:39:40

    you wrap the URL in img tags.

    CODE

    [img] [/img[

    the last one has tags like this:[img] with the / infront


    I actually am looking forward to these. Im gonna pick some up to see how they spin, and see what you can change. This is what we were waiting for, I'm pretty sure.

  261. Jbiggie
    Date: Tue, Mar 11 2008 21:02:10

    Sorry still dont understand I have the pics on my desktop.

    Their is no address or url.

  262. nolan
    Date: Tue, Mar 11 2008 21:07:03

    Oh, you have to upload them to a photo hosting website.

  263. Jbiggie
    Date: Tue, Mar 11 2008 22:45:39

    Isnt their an easier way. I think they look cool!

  264. sketching
    Date: Tue, Mar 11 2008 23:45:24

    It doesn't get much easier than uploading to an image-hosting site and linking to the image. Example:
    Go to ImageShack.
    Upload your photo(s).
    Link to the address(es) in the thread.

  265. Pearl
    Date: Wed, Mar 12 2008 09:31:19

    QUOTE (sadi teh pirate @ Mar 7 2008, 08:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    lol, i love how they say "and unclock new tricks online"....i bet they are going to have diffrent codes for all the tricks so u hafta buy a ton of their products to get them all lolz....


    Well,

    If you think about it, they are levels.

    Theres a different pen for each level.

    Beginner -> Fundies -> Zero

    Intermediate -> Variations -> Whatever it's called I don't know

    Expert -> Harder tricks -> Axis

    I might be wrong, but that's how I'd do it.

    And I don't think selling sticks for spinning will attract people that are 12+. Ummm, maybe nerds.

    Wait, are you guys nerds ? ;]

  266. NoRice4U
    Date: Wed, Mar 12 2008 14:26:16

    The expert one just costs alot because it comes with a bunch of useless stuff.... stickers!! z0mgmz

  267. Outlander
    Date: Wed, Mar 12 2008 15:05:51

    I hope its more than just the extra stuff (like the stickers and stuff). I'd expect the pen to be heavier aty least. And they said it comes with extra grips (maybe we can use those in other mods happy.gif ) as well as extra barell and caps (again maybe we can use these in further modding).

    I hope some retailer will sell them online in the U.S. tongue.gif

  268. darkeh
    Date: Wed, Mar 12 2008 18:25:20

    QUOTE (Outlander @ Mar 12 2008, 11:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I hope some retailer will sell them online in the U.S. tongue.gif

    I think they're being sold mainly in the US :x

  269. Outlander
    Date: Wed, Mar 12 2008 22:40:29

    Yeah, I just mean like an online store. Like amazon or toysrus webstores.

    I have far too many unused amazon gift certificates... tongue.gif

  270. Jbiggie
    Date: Thu, Mar 13 2008 16:57:39

    Pens look cool! Should be available in a couple weeks!

  271. Jun
    Date: Thu, Mar 13 2008 20:26:48

    does anyone know the exact day in april its coming out?

  272. Outlander
    Date: Thu, Mar 13 2008 20:54:44

    I'm pretty sure retailers will start selling them at the beginning of the month. Only a few more weeks :-)

  273. Huroni
    Date: Thu, Mar 13 2008 23:26:35

    LOL spam...


    Anyways, I look forward to the release of these pens. I am just going to buy for fun! And when people see the green, they'll be like, IF I BUY, YOU TEACH?! And Ill be like HEO YEAH! Lol...but its good stuff smile.gif

  274. Novastrike
    Date: Fri, Mar 14 2008 02:38:43

    But I think, SpinZ might make their own video tutorial into VCDs or DVDs and sell it.

    Maybe we can consider making our own video tutorial and sell it to people too rolleyes.gif

  275. sadi teh pirate
    Date: Fri, Mar 14 2008 04:06:27

    QUOTE (Novastrike @ Mar 13 2008, 09:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    But I think, SpinZ might make their own video tutorial into VCDs or DVDs and sell it.

    Maybe we can consider making our own video tutorial and sell it to people too rolleyes.gif

    hmmm...for a fundraiser, we should make a SPINZ collab, have the best editors here work on it, then sell it back to SPINZ as a promotional video ~_~
    (just an idea that will probly be shot down cool.gif )

  276. cluu1
    Date: Fri, Mar 14 2008 05:38:29

    QUOTE (sadi teh pirate @ Mar 13 2008, 08:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    hmmm...for a fundraiser, we should make a SPINZ collab, have the best editors here work on it, then sell it back to SPINZ as a promotional video ~_~
    (just an idea that will probly be shot down cool.gif )

    good idea:D
    then license allt he tricks
    sell licenses to spinzWANJAJJAJAHAHAHAHA biggrin.gif

  277. pen_MAKer
    Date: Fri, Mar 14 2008 11:45:08

    i think modding will lose all the fun...one day, it will be like...hurray!gonna make a mod! *takes pen out of the SPINZ package*....hurray!new mod....

    like sad.gif wacko.gif

  278. Outlander
    Date: Fri, Mar 14 2008 16:39:34

    I've already seen some videos of people using penzgear on youtube, I wouldn't be surprised if someone starts a spinz collab when they are released.. tongue.gif

  279. Jbiggie
    Date: Sat, Mar 15 2008 03:48:23

    That would be cool!!!!!!

  280. cluu1
    Date: Sat, Mar 15 2008 03:58:02

    yea htta t would be pretty cool..

  281. Se7en
    Date: Sat, Mar 15 2008 05:00:35

    i have a feeling that this product is going to go down in flames but hell i'll get one laugh.gif

  282. nhk9
    Date: Sat, Mar 15 2008 07:10:02

    QUOTE (cyshing @ Feb 2 2008, 03:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I personally don't like manufactured spinning which is already designed specially for pen spinning, not from other pen parts, can only customize a bit of the colors and maybe can attach and dettach a little of the part to mod with our normal mods. Pre-made mods in PDS and Penwish are different! They're made from other normal pen parts, not specially pre-designed like yoyo or astrojax which are skill toys.

    Pen modding is part of the fun of pen spinning, i'm always impressed with how good and beautiful the mod that other people made using normal pens/pencils and i enjoy modding too during my free time. Measuring and cutting the pen barrel/cap/grip, finding the suitable tip, thinking of how to make the pen mod balanced, coloring(eg. matching the grip colors and inserts), looking for suitable pen to mod in stationery stores and exchanging pens, these all are part of the fun of my pen spinning.

    About using pen spinning to make money, this depend on what case, i'm not sure exactly what i dislike about using pen spinning to make money. happy.gif

    Edit: blah~ whatever.....


    Well I don't think there has been any product like this, so it's probably best to judge it after you've tried it. Some may like it and some don't. Similarly, some people might prefer to built their Nissan Skyline GTR in their favourite garages, but some others like to buy their Ferraris with all the accessories and amenities. I've read articles in the past about Honda Civics being modded up to the point where they beat Ferraris in a drag race. However, some people might think that simply having a Ferrari is a symbol status itself.

  283. CPC
    Date: Mon, Mar 17 2008 13:09:55

    There website now has information on it and pics.
    http://www.spinzpens.com/

  284. Sfsr
    Date: Mon, Mar 17 2008 13:37:29

    Thanks for the clarification nhk, many people seem to think this will completely change stuff for themselves, but they can keep things just the way they want.

    Nice! Finally a website =D

    Direct link to a picture of the Ronin pen.
    Direct link to a picture of the Axis pen.

    For some reason, I couldn't save down the picture of the Zero pen, and I don't know if hot linking from their ftp works.

  285. Jbiggie
    Date: Mon, Mar 17 2008 14:38:48

    I heard from someone who recieved a SpinZ pen at a show in nYC and I dont think that is the site. That is just a temporary site. They said the real site would be big and interactive.

  286. cluu1
    Date: Mon, Mar 17 2008 15:19:16

    hmm notice the typos in the fron page that says reaching stores april 2007

    so i don' think that it is real
    the zero looks like penz gear
    the ronin looks like some sort of screwed up rsvp wit ha deformed cap
    and the axis looks like and comssa type thing


    woah woah woah omg omg omg omg
    the zero comes with a spinnign ring can do like ts 321304324 with that holy crap biggrin.gif

  287. Leviathan
    Date: Mon, Mar 17 2008 15:32:17

    Hey, that ronin looks like a single capped pen and it doesn't look too bad either. I might pick up that one.

  288. Mats
    Date: Mon, Mar 17 2008 16:21:26

    QUOTE (Leviathan @ Mar 17 2008, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Hey, that ronin looks like a single capped pen and it doesn't look too bad either. I might pick up that one.


    You know I was thinking the very same thing. cool.gif

    The other two aren't for me, but I'm sure others will like them. smile.gif

    You know I think spinz might just be very good for pen spinning... They do really need to fix that typo on the front page in bold writing though.

  289. MX kid
    Date: Mon, Mar 17 2008 21:43:44

    "With SpinZ, pen spinners no longer have to spend countless hours creating their own pen"

    But that's what part of pen spinning is all about and sometimes it is fun complementing on others pen mods and then makeing it yourself. I think they or someone got the wrong idea dry.gif

  290. Salvis
    Date: Mon, Mar 17 2008 22:04:29

    Ok, here is my opinion and future.

    I will still creating my personal mods, making famous mods and buy some of the SPINZ. I will spin with all of these 3 ''products'' (personal, famous, SPINZ). And that how it's simple is. No buging no shitless rants ect. Just do what you want, dont buy or buy - spin or say gtfo - its up to you.

  291. WhiteFang
    Date: Tue, Mar 18 2008 07:14:27

    hmm what does it mean by 10 tricks + combo?

    and how many upsb members are actually working for Spinz?

  292. Sfsr
    Date: Tue, Mar 18 2008 09:03:13

    That's how many tricks they think the pens are suitable for. Of course, you can actually do basically any trick with any of the pens. It's easier to learn things like TA and Sonic with a pretty light pen to start out with though, so that's why they're different "levels". I guess it's also 'cause they send a little folder with mini-tutorials with the pens, so if it says "4 tricks" on the package it means it contains 4 trick tutorials.

  293. SpinStar
    Date: Tue, Mar 18 2008 11:07:22

    What! there are different lvl's? lol that's pretty cool. and if you are in between medium and hard you should mod the Spinz pens so that you have a med-hard pen.

  294. Zombo
    Date: Tue, Mar 18 2008 12:04:40

    "Spinning to the U.S. market with its new SpinZâ„¢ line of official Pen Spinning pens hitting retailers in April 2008!"

    First in the US I guess. If it works well, they'll spread out.

  295. Novastrike
    Date: Tue, Mar 18 2008 17:32:25

    Although I will try out SpinZ, but I still think I will like my mod pens. Unlike this phrase being mentioned in the SpinZ website.
    " With SpinZ, pen spinners no longer have to spend countless hours creating their own pen...they can pick up their SpinZ pen and start spinning."

  296. Sfsr
    Date: Tue, Mar 18 2008 19:54:58

    QUOTE (MX kid @ Mar 17 2008, 10:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    "With SpinZ, pen spinners no longer have to spend countless hours creating their own pen"

    But that's what pen spinning is all about and sometimes it is fun complementing on others pen mods and then makeing it yourself. I think they or someone got the wrong idea dry.gif



    QUOTE (Novastrike @ Mar 18 2008, 06:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Unlike this phrase being mentioned in the SpinZ website.
    " With SpinZ, pen spinners no longer have to spend countless hours creating their own pen...they can pick up their SpinZ pen and start spinning."

    Argh, stop doing this people. It's supposed to be a good thing that people new to penspinning don't have to spend countless days, even weeks, trying to get their hands on decent spinning pens like comssa, and once they get the pens also mod them. This opens up new opportunities!

    It's really pissing me off, so please just quit it and give the pens a chance in the world. I'm not saying that you even need to try them but let them atleast be released on the market before you start complaining about them ruining penspinning.

  297. MX kid
    Date: Tue, Mar 18 2008 21:18:12

    QUOTE (Sfsr @ Mar 18 2008, 03:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Argh, stop doing this people. It's supposed to be a good thing that people new to penspinning don't have to spend countless days, even weeks, trying to get their hands on decent spinning pens like comssa, and once they get the pens also mod them. This opens up new opportunities!

    It's really pissing me off, so please just quit it and give the pens a chance in the world. I'm not saying that you even need to try them but let them atleast be released on the market before you start complaining about them ruining penspinning.



    I never said i'ts going to ruin penspinning, i just meant that sometimes i'ts actually fun making your own pens.
    And i'm actually looking forward to these and I think about how many more people will actually get into this hobby.

  298. cluu1
    Date: Tue, Mar 18 2008 21:33:46

    QUOTE (MX kid @ Mar 18 2008, 01:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I never said i'ts going to ruin penspinning, i just meant that sometimes i'ts actually fun making your own pens.
    And i'm actually looking forward to these and I think about how many more people will actually get into this hobby.


    this won't stop anyone from modding.. it just lets pepopel who don' like modding not need to mod.

  299. Se7en
    Date: Tue, Mar 18 2008 21:36:36

    i'm sticking with my modded pens

  300. Novastrike
    Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 03:00:24

    QUOTE (Sfsr @ Mar 19 2008, 03:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    It's really pissing me off, so please just quit it and give the pens a chance in the world. I'm not saying that you even need to try them but let them atleast be released on the market before you start complaining about them ruining penspinning.


    I was just trying to disagree with that sentence on that website, that's all.
    Maybe there is some misunderstanding here sad.gif

    But if you happen to see my earlier post, I actually stated that I wanted to try out SpinZ wink.gif

  301. nateiskewl
    Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 03:30:39

    Were they designed BY SPINNERS, or FOR SPINNERS. There's a big difference there. Someone who doesn't spin, or just started can barely tell the difference between a stick and an MX.

  302. cluu1
    Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 04:03:41

    well kam was invovled with the making that's all i know so yeah..
    dunno.


    some of them look kinda okay but they all look like fake other pens.

  303. Se7en
    Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 04:12:24

    does anybody know which day it comes out?

  304. cluu1
    Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 17:31:22

    1st of april:D
    well i dunno it's a guess

  305. sketching
    Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 20:26:41

    QUOTE (MX kid @ Mar 17 2008, 02:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    But that's what pen spinning is all about and sometimes it is fun complementing on others pen mods and then makeing it yourself. I think they or someone got the wrong idea dry.gif

    Oddly enough, I always thought that pen spinning was all about...PEN SPINNING. rolleyes.gif

    April needs to hurry up and get here so that these pens can be released and we can see if they are actually of any use to us or not. Grr.

  306. WhiteFang
    Date: Thu, Mar 20 2008 06:07:26

    QUOTE (nateiskewl @ Mar 19 2008, 02:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Were they designed BY SPINNERS, or FOR SPINNERS. There's a big difference there. Someone who doesn't spin, or just started can barely tell the difference between a stick and an MX.


    it was designed by the company after they did some research. and it was tested out by Kam and he gave them feedbacks

  307. InhumanElmo
    Date: Thu, Mar 20 2008 13:11:04

    Now that i see clearer and larger pictures of these pens they actually look nice. The ronin looks extremely versatile... although they dont hold true to PS style. They look more childish than anything, but still i think they would be of some use modding. The ronin looks eerily like the RSVP and the axis looks like our comssa and the zero looks like... well atleast THATS original. I think I may pick up a ronin and and Axis. I am still looking forward to the tv commercials and the questions and comments to follow.

  308. iMatt
    Date: Thu, Mar 20 2008 15:39:58

    PDS WATCH OUT! tongue.gif

  309. soulsonic
    Date: Thu, Mar 20 2008 16:56:51

    whoa pics! im liking the ronin and the axis. the rings and the body on the spinz sights axis looks pretty cool.im looking forward to buying some

  310. Jbiggie
    Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 00:40:43

    Almost April. The pens should be available soon!

  311. MX kid
    Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 00:53:56

    QUOTE (Jbiggie @ Mar 22 2008, 08:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Almost April. The pens should be available soon!


    specific date??

  312. Missle_Z
    Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 01:07:40

    DAAAANGIIIIIITTTT!!!!!
    I want one of these so baaaad.
    I'm prob gonna get all of the pens they come out with just for collection but I'm still gonna make modded pens.

  313. Jun
    Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 01:39:18

    The pen shouldn't be that bad to spin cause i heard they also make pens and sutff. But if pentel made spinning pens, it would pwn for sure.

  314. Tama
    Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 02:07:29

    Send letters to Doug-a, Pentel, Pilot Etc and tell them to make PS pens LOL

  315. TEK
    Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 02:21:00

    QUOTE (nateiskewl @ Mar 18 2008, 10:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Were they designed BY SPINNERS, or FOR SPINNERS. There's a big difference there. Someone who doesn't spin, or just started can barely tell the difference between a stick and an MX.


    they were designed by non pen spinners

    beta tested by Kam for improvements.
    usually companies try to save as much money, so it would cost a lot more to have someone design a brand new product then to design it yourself and have a real pen spinner test it.

  316. Dritan Zulbeari
    Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 02:30:10

    Anyone know where there going be sold?

    It would just suck seeing them at walmart.

  317. K4S
    Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 02:38:48

    QUOTE (TEK @ Mar 22 2008, 09:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    usually companies try to save as much money, so it would cost a lot more to have someone design a brand new product then to design it yourself and have a real pen spinner test it.

    In all honesty I would have come up with something neat for a low fee...a lot lower than what they probably pay their R&D. tongue.gif

    But alas, this has been in the works for some time now...before i was even pen spinning so bygones will be bygones. It will be interesting what all these pre-made pen mods will lead to though.

  318. Tama
    Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 02:47:32

    QUOTE (Dritan Zulbeari @ Mar 22 2008, 09:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Anyone know where there going be sold?

    It would just suck seeing them at walmart.

    Somehow... I have a feeling that it'll be sold at ToysRus XD
    Don't know why... but SPINZ to me looks like toys...

  319. Jbiggie
    Date: Sun, Mar 23 2008 17:24:22

    QUOTE (Tama @ Mar 22 2008, 09:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Somehow... I have a feeling that it'll be sold at ToysRus XD
    Don't know why... but SPINZ to me looks like toys...



    Guys.. These are probably going to be available everywhere. Thats how they make money. Do you think if Walmart or toys r us calls they are going to say no tp them?

    Who cares where they sell them as long as they work!!!!!!


  320. shiness
    Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 03:36:26

    i only want the zero so i can get the spinnign ring and do ts 1321132121512161

  321. InhumanElmo
    Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 11:04:12

    Pentech made crap pens to begin with so hopefully these will redeem their crap reputation... IMO.

  322. Dritan Zulbeari
    Date: Tue, Mar 25 2008 05:40:53

    I hope there not at walmart. please no.

  323. k2thez
    Date: Wed, Mar 26 2008 21:23:07

    SPINZ are probably going to pop up everywhere, and probably not in the Office section of the store because they weren't made to write. They'll probably be in the Toy section.

  324. darkeh
    Date: Wed, Mar 26 2008 21:37:29

    If they are only in the toy section, no one but kids would ever even think about buying them though, besides us ofcourse.

  325. Jbiggie
    Date: Wed, Mar 26 2008 22:33:12

    I have seen images. They say 0.7mm ball point.

    They might be in the stationary isle!

  326. Tama
    Date: Wed, Mar 26 2008 23:45:38

    Lol on the label they'll have "SPINZ Main use: writing. Secondary use: Spinning." XD

  327. Tatemichi
    Date: Thu, Mar 27 2008 03:07:53

    lol that would be hilarious! laugh.gif

  328. Jbiggie
    Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 22:43:13

    Has anyone seen if the pens are in stores yet?

  329. k2thez
    Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 22:58:51

    QUOTE (Jbiggie @ Mar 28 2008, 05:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Has anyone seen if the pens are in stores yet?

    Well the release month is April, and it's not April yet so they're probably not out on store shelves yet.

  330. xshadowfire
    Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 23:08:01

    don't know if this has been posted before or not, but...

    QUOTE (SpinZ Press Release)
    In addition, SpinZ pens are very collectible and the line is slated to launch new graphics and “modding” accessories. JAKKS will also have limited edition, collectible SpinZ styles and will include special codes on the instruction sheets that unlock tricks on www.spinzpens.com. The website will also host a unique online community which will allow kids to discuss Pen Spinning and showcase their customized pens.

    ...are they trying to compete with upsb? D:

    edit: although, judging from what i've read so far, these are more or less targeted at elementary-age children, which this board obviously isn't suitable for...having a children appropriate board might be kind of good, but i don't want it drawing away potential upsb members D:

  331. nateiskewl
    Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 23:49:44

    This is how it's gonna be:

    A bunch of immature 9 year olds will be misnaming tricks and creating PhBBforFree forums. And Jakks will get all of the media attention (as they've already shown), giving the wrong name to pen spinning.

    QUOTE
    Capitalizing on this popular trend, JAKKS Pacific, Inc. (Nasdaq: JAKK) is introducing Pen Spinning to the U.S. market with its new SpinZâ„¢ line of official Pen Spinning pens hitting retailers in April 2008!


    From this statement I can see a few things:
    1. JAKKS does not care about the spinner, or what they do to the hobby. (Not to mention they deliberately lie on their website).
    2. JAKKS knows NOTHING about pen spinning history. Last time I checked, the first pen spinning forum was started by someone in the US.
    3. JAKKS just wants to take a popular hobby and leech all of the money available in it.

    QUOTE
    JAKKS will also have limited edition, collectible SpinZ styles and will include special codes on the instruction sheets that unlock tricks on www.spinzpens.com.


    From this statement, I can see a few things.
    1. JAKKS inevitably wants to rip off the consumer by tricking them into buying a cheap product, and promises of skill by unlocking tricks.
    2. JAKKS SpinZâ„¢ will divert attention from places like UPSB.

    Why can I tell that these things will happen? Well, I saw the same thing happen to an underground hobby, fingerboarding. Before Tech Decks were popular, fingerboarding was fun, and everyone understood the unwritten rules. Around 2005, Tech Deck began a new ad campaign, which caused tons of unexperienced [dare I say] "noobs" to flood into the once small, private communities. It pretty much ruined the hobby and caused me to quit.

    Final word: With the right start, JAKKS could have done good for pen spinning, but instead, I believe that they just want to be greedy.

  332. Dynamik
    Date: Fri, Mar 28 2008 23:58:36

    i really dont see anything good coming from these products. i hope im wrong though.

  333. Jbiggie
    Date: Sat, Mar 29 2008 00:15:01

    What is wrong with you guys???????

    The pens are not out and you have all these pre conceived notions!

    Use them if you want or dont. The pens I saw are not for 9 year olds.

    I hope your rich because the way you talk you don't want anything to evolve or grow. This way of thinking wont do well in the business world.

    This is what companies do they start trends or find trends and blow them up so the masses can do them.

    Get a reality check and learn how things in the world work!

  334. nateiskewl
    Date: Sat, Mar 29 2008 00:21:02

    QUOTE (Jbiggie @ Mar 28 2008, 04:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    What is wrong with you guys???????

    The pens are not out and you have all these pre conceived notions!

    Use them if you want or dont. The pens I saw are not for 9 year olds.

    I hope your rich because the way you talk you don't want anything to evolve or grow. This way of thinking wont do well in the business world.

    This is what companies do they start trends or find trends and blow them up so the masses can do them.

    Get a reality check and learn how things in the world work!


    It's not that I don't want pen spinning to evolve, I just don't want pen spinning to change for the worse.

  335. CPC
    Date: Mon, Mar 31 2008 15:09:23

    They are on Amazon but they are out of stock.
    Spinz on Amazon.com

  336. darkeh
    Date: Mon, Mar 31 2008 19:11:57

    Did people actually buy them out or did they just put them on early?

  337. Golfzabemix
    Date: Tue, Apr 1 2008 10:54:05

    QUOTE (darkeh @ Mar 31 2008, 02:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Did people actually buy them out or did they just put them on early?



    now spinz is come out?????????????????????????????????????

    when they come out??

  338. ultimatsz
    Date: Tue, Apr 1 2008 11:29:40

    i think i will be checking toys r us tomorrow in singapore.. haha

  339. CPC
    Date: Tue, Apr 1 2008 13:14:50

    My guess is that they just put them up there getting ready to allow you to buy them when the release time happens. It is interesting how they have two used ones.

  340. PenCell
    Date: Tue, Apr 1 2008 19:30:35

    The site (http://www.spinzpens.com./) does say at the bottom that the pens will come with extra barrels girps and weights so they might be good for parts if not for spinning.


    And wtf?? the pens are called Zero, Axis, and Ronin, what retarded names.

  341. MX kid
    Date: Tue, Apr 1 2008 20:08:32

    QUOTE (nateiskewl @ Mar 28 2008, 06:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    snip


    100% agree with you nate

  342. Samson
    Date: Tue, Apr 1 2008 20:39:27

    I really like the idea of buying an already balanced pen but i just read their site. they said that buying limited edition pens will unlock special codes to tricks. they act like a trick can be sold. their website also said that certain pens can do certain tricks which is completly untrue. angryfire.gif

  343. ...pankake...
    Date: Tue, Apr 1 2008 20:53:05

    does anyone know a date in april they are coming out and what stores they will be sold at?

    QUOTE (PenCell @ Apr 1 2008, 02:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    The site (http://www.spinzpens.com./) does say at the bottom that the pens will come with extra barrels girps and weights so they might be good for parts if not for spinning.


    And wtf?? the pens are called Zero, Axis, and Ronin, what retarded names.



    jakks wont draw attention away from UPSB, the people who are on it now and are serious spinners will stay on here and not go to the spinz forum

  344. shiness
    Date: Tue, Apr 1 2008 22:58:52

    ..
    no ads for spinz yet i'm waiting i really really wanna see and see how people react..

  345. Tama
    Date: Wed, Apr 2 2008 02:08:46

    QUOTE (xshadowfire @ Mar 28 2008, 07:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    ...are they trying to compete with upsb? D:

    edit: although, judging from what i've read so far, these are more or less targeted at elementary-age children, which this board obviously isn't suitable for...having a children appropriate board might be kind of good, but i don't want it drawing away potential upsb members D:

    Don't worry, SPINZ won't stand a chance against us.
    If SPINZ is really gonna draw potential memebers away from us...
    WE FIGHT!

  346. sadi teh pirate
    Date: Wed, Apr 2 2008 06:33:34

    idk bout you guys, but im waiting to see how people say they spin before i buy one. personally i dont really care about how they look as long as they are a high end pen that is balanced, writes and wont fall apart ~_~

  347. Outlander
    Date: Wed, Apr 2 2008 16:38:27

    It says that they are in stock here, but I don't think they actually have it since Pentech's amazon store doesn't have them on sale yet....

  348. Salvis
    Date: Wed, Apr 2 2008 22:44:08

    Hmmm nice! Going for ''Axe'' laugh.gif

  349. Outlander
    Date: Wed, Apr 2 2008 23:21:12

    QUOTE (Salvis @ Apr 2 2008, 06:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Hmmm nice! Going for ''Axe'' laugh.gif


    Axis. But yeah, I'll be buying one of each for taking them apart and fully checking them out laugh.gif

  350. Salvis
    Date: Fri, Apr 4 2008 19:05:39

    QUOTE (Outlander @ Apr 2 2008, 06:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Axis. But yeah, I'll be buying one of each for taking them apart and fully checking them out laugh.gif



    I call it axe biggrin.gif

  351. Outlander
    Date: Sat, Apr 5 2008 01:13:13

    UPDATE:

    New Pics From Pentech on Amazon.com


    Axis:


    Ronin:


    Zero:




    The Ronin looks like it has enough parts to make an entire other pen...

  352. nateiskewl
    Date: Sat, Apr 5 2008 01:19:52

    They look really lame.

  353. Ryuukohaden
    Date: Sat, Apr 5 2008 01:28:20

    I'm disappointed.

  354. -JC-
    Date: Sat, Apr 5 2008 01:37:21

    they do look pretty bad >.>
    and if they try to take over--k4s/tek'll kill those pens with their mods, and we'll (well, not me ^^'' ) kill them with our spinning xDD
    there's no way they could ever possibly be better than us if they just use the tricks that they get by unlocking secret "codes" if they never go onto upsb =\

  355. MX kid
    Date: Sat, Apr 5 2008 02:13:15

    all that money that is going to be put in in these pens for nothing. i hope everything goes well for this company unsure.gif . i know it will attarct younger children and will probably be the next thing everone will be talking about. but who knows... ..when will the site open it's community?

  356. Jbiggie
    Date: Sat, Apr 5 2008 03:03:01

    I have seen other image that are better than these.


  357. soulsonic
    Date: Sat, Apr 5 2008 03:41:51

    ronin looks pretty cool lol

  358. shiness
    Date: Sat, Apr 5 2008 04:13:48

    aww man:(
    the only thign i wanted was the spinnign ring bu now it loosk fail sad.gif

  359. sadi teh pirate
    Date: Sat, Apr 5 2008 04:38:27

    QUOTE (-JC- @ Apr 4 2008, 09:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    they do look pretty bad >.>
    and if they try to take over--k4s/tek'll kill those pens with their mods, and we'll (well, not me ^^'' ) kill them with our spinning xDD
    there's no way they could ever possibly be better than us if they just use the tricks that they get by unlocking secret "codes" if they never go onto upsb =\


    idk...i dont rlly see this as a competition, but more of an oppurtunity to get more pen spinners involved...isnt that what u guys want?

  360. Kam
    Date: Sat, Apr 5 2008 06:26:50

    Guys, please stop speculating...if anyone really can know what will happen in the future, then please...go play the lottery, or prevent the next world disaster tongue.gif

    I hate it when people say this or that will happen when they don't know for sure, or even have all the facts. In fact, even Jakks or myself don't know what will happen. nobody knows.

    However, if you want to state your opinions on things that CAN be changed, then I will convey them to Jakks to the best of my abilities. But you can't expect me to tell them to decrease their sales because we don't want younger kids to start spinning. Who in the world would listen to that type of suggestion? tongue.gif

    I suspect that the first line of Spinz that come out will have room for improvement, just like any new product. Nobody has manufactured a spinning pen before, so it's not like there was a way to learn from previous products (well...Penz Gear doesn't really count for this matter, as they were being developed at the same time). Also, modding pens is not the same thing as manufacturing pens. However, that doesn't mean these pens suck. I've been spinning them for a while now, and they work pretty well. I wont go into details because even if I did, people would say I'm biased, which is probably true. So i'll let you guys make your own judgement when they come out.

    Kam

  361. iNoob
    Date: Sat, Apr 5 2008 06:59:50

    kam is there any chance that you can give us the actual release date?

  362. servantofGod
    Date: Sat, Apr 5 2008 18:50:17

    teach.gif he probably can not divulge any information regarding that subject at this time for contractual reasons teach.gif

  363. Outlander
    Date: Sat, Apr 5 2008 19:51:59

    The pics have changed on the Pentech amazon.com store, so I suspect it will be released in the next week or two biggrin.gif

  364. CPC
    Date: Sat, Apr 5 2008 20:31:30

    I ordered some from the toys and treasures seller on amazon. They should be here sometime next week. So I would think that they have been released, but not many places carry them yet.

  365. Outlander
    Date: Sat, Apr 5 2008 20:45:58

    QUOTE (CPC @ Apr 5 2008, 03:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I ordered some from the toys and treasures seller on amazon. They should be here sometime next week. So I would think that they have been released, but not many places carry them yet.


    I'm still confused why a separate seller would have them in stock and pentach's amazon store still says "Out of Stock". laugh.gif


    Please let me use know when you get shipping notification, then I'll order myself a few as well tongue.gif

  366. vicgotgame
    Date: Sun, Apr 6 2008 04:36:04

    Ok so i was at walmart today, and i decided to go to the pen isle and guess what i saw, everything but the Axis. The Ronin was the only cool looking one though. They had quit alot of different color schemes which was cool also. I was going to get one but i didnt have enough cash on me. dry.gif

  367. Missle_Z
    Date: Sun, Apr 6 2008 04:45:21

    Niiiiice.
    I live in Canada, so I'm gonna get my dad who lives in Seattle to pick me some up tongue.gif

  368. shiness
    Date: Sun, Apr 6 2008 14:32:13

    ooh so they;re out?
    anyone spin them are they good?

  369. NoRice4U
    Date: Sun, Apr 6 2008 15:12:12

    QUOTE (vicgotgame @ Apr 5 2008, 08:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Ok so i was at walmart today, and i decided to go to the pen isle and guess what i saw, everything but the Axis. The Ronin was the only cool looking one though. They had quit alot of different color schemes which was cool also. I was going to get one but i didnt have enough cash on me. dry.gif


    If yours has it, then mine will probably have it tongue.gif

  370. Outlander
    Date: Sun, Apr 6 2008 16:26:26

    I really want to know the weight of the axis. lol.

    I wonder if its close to a KT....

  371. servantofGod
    Date: Sun, Apr 6 2008 16:57:53

    man I got to get to walmart. They are in pen area and not toys right?

  372. vicgotgame
    Date: Sun, Apr 6 2008 17:03:23

    Yea they were in the pens area in my Walmart. I really wanted to see the Axis but it wasnt in stock yet.

  373. TEK
    Date: Sun, Apr 6 2008 17:39:37

    QUOTE (Outlander @ Apr 6 2008, 12:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I really want to know the weight of the axis. lol.

    I wonder if its close to a KT....


    its not as heavy and not as much momentum as a kt.
    the body isn't as good as welll, i like the kt.ct.m&m body over it.
    surely if you want to spend around that much money (20-25) id say buy a kt.

  374. Jun
    Date: Sun, Apr 6 2008 18:14:32

    Ronin kinda looks like a normal RSVP...

  375. Retro-spectre
    Date: Sun, Apr 6 2008 21:19:33

    QUOTE (nateiskewl @ Mar 28 2008, 06:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    This is how it's gonna be:

    From this statement I can see a few things:
    1. JAKKS does not care about the spinner, or what they do to the hobby. (Not to mention they deliberately lie on their website).
    3. JAKKS just wants to take a popular hobby and leech all of the money available in it.


    QFTMT.

  376. darkeh
    Date: Sun, Apr 6 2008 21:36:24

    I'm prolly going to order one of each and the ones I don't like I trade, I think they will be big trade items if they can only be bought in the US :X

  377. Outlander
    Date: Sun, Apr 6 2008 22:08:32

    QUOTE (TEK @ Apr 6 2008, 01:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    its not as heavy and not as much momentum as a kt.
    the body isn't as good as welll, i like the kt.ct.m&m body over it.
    surely if you want to spend around that much money (20-25) id say buy a kt.


    Did you get one TEK?

    if so, do any of the parts look like they can be used on new mods?

  378. Look Into the Sun
    Date: Sun, Apr 6 2008 22:57:52

    I want to try one of the, but I'm not sure which to get. :\

  379. Jbiggie
    Date: Mon, Apr 7 2008 18:33:36

    JUST SAW A COOL SPINZ AD AND 2 PAGE EDITORIAL IN THE MAY/JUNE BECKETT YUGIOH MAGAZINE. ITS AT NEWSTANDS.

    LOOKS GOOD!

  380. Invincibleman
    Date: Mon, Apr 7 2008 20:43:27

    Doesn't look good enough for the price. Maybe I should write a letter to them telling them that they should send me one for free, because I worked for spinZ and got killed. laugh.gif

  381. Jbiggie
    Date: Mon, Apr 7 2008 22:10:31

    QUOTE (Invincibleman @ Apr 7 2008, 03:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Doesn't look good enough for the price. Maybe I should write a letter to them telling them that they should send me one for free, because I worked for spinZ and got killed. laugh.gif



    How did you get killed?

  382. Invincibleman
    Date: Mon, Apr 7 2008 22:24:07

    From the mafia game in the forum games section.

  383. Dynamik
    Date: Mon, Apr 7 2008 22:57:31

    so when some kid finds upsb searchin for tricks after he bought one of these, is the kid gunna get flamed to hell if he registers and starts talking about his Spinz pen?

  384. nateiskewl
    Date: Mon, Apr 7 2008 23:20:21

    I just bought the Roin and Zero (they didn't have Axis), I'm going to make a video of me opening + reactions when my camera charges. (I assume they will be garbage).

  385. Invincibleman
    Date: Tue, Apr 8 2008 00:12:50

    The insxtructions should say:

    1. Take pen out of box
    2. Walk over to trashcan
    3. Throw pen away
    4. Buy an RSVP
    5. Buy an HGG
    6. Buy a Comssa
    7. Make an MSXA

  386. nateiskewl
    Date: Tue, Apr 8 2008 00:12:58

    Well, my camera is screwed up so I'm just gonna write a bit about it. smile.gif

    Zero:

    This pen is just like KT, with a cheesy graphic design, writing ability (with very bad ink), and terrible weight distribution. It comes with "extender caps," which make the pen better balanced, but add another visual flaw, and length. The best thing is that this pen comes with a "spinning ring". It's just a plastic ring that attaches your pen which lets you "SPIN JUST LIKE THE PROS!". Not a good buy, avoid this product unless you're a huge noob.

    Ronin:

    This pen is an ugly RSVP MX wannabe. There are a few flaws with this pen: 1. When the cap is on the ink side, the pen is unbalanced. 2. When the cap is on the back side, the pen is well balanced, but the ink is vulnerable. It comes with a few accessories, but nothing worth getting to mod other pens. This is an okay buy. It's alright to spin, and has some nice colors, but, for the price it's not worth it.

  387. someone09
    Date: Tue, Apr 8 2008 00:23:29

    Does anyone have an Axis yet?

  388. Kyosuke
    Date: Tue, Apr 8 2008 00:40:08

    QUOTE (nateiskewl @ Apr 7 2008, 04:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Zero:

    This pen is just like KT, with a cheesy graphic design, writing ability (with very bad ink), and terrible weight distribution. It comes with "extender caps," which make the pen better balanced, but add another visual flaw, and length. The best thing is that this pen comes with a "spinning ring". It's just a plastic ring that attaches your pen which lets you "SPIN JUST LIKE THE PROS!". Not a good buy, avoid this product unless you're a huge noob.

    Ronin:

    This pen is an ugly RSVP MX wannabe. There are a few flaws with this pen: 1. When the cap is on the ink side, the pen is unbalanced. 2. When the cap is on the back side, the pen is well balanced, but the ink is vulnerable. It comes with a few accessories, but nothing worth getting to mod other pens. This is an okay buy. It's alright to spin, and has some nice colors, but, for the price it's not worth it.


    Ahh.. thanks for the info. I guess I'll try out the Axis when I get one.

  389. Jbiggie
    Date: Tue, Apr 8 2008 01:00:23

    Invisible man did you buy it?

    I bought the Ronin at walmart. It spins good when the cap is on the back. Isnt that where you put it when you spin?????

    You guys sound like haters. Geezzzz grow up how many people besides the people on these boards now abot the KT or other pens? Do you think a regular kid wants to go but RSVPs and mod them.

    As Kam said this is their first run. I am sure they are already working on any flaws and improving them.

    and BTW if you bought most pens and didnt modify them they wouldnt be as good and you would throw them away.

    Some of you have to many predetermined thoughts!

  390. nateiskewl
    Date: Tue, Apr 8 2008 03:34:44

    Oh yeah, one thing I forgot to add. Customizing them is actually pretty fun. If I had a few more parts to work with I could possibly make something more spinnable...

  391. Eso
    Date: Tue, Apr 8 2008 03:35:57

    QUOTE (Jbiggie @ Apr 7 2008, 08:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I bought the Ronin at walmart.


    So, Spinz are out in the east coast?

  392. Kam
    Date: Tue, Apr 8 2008 03:50:09

    For those of you who bought the Ronin, I suggest putting the extra grip in the cap, just like an MX tongue.gif That's how I use it.

    I also mentioned the weight issue with Jakks, and our solution is to offer metal screws that can be used instead of the plastic ones. These go at the end of the cap, making the pen quite balanced and heavier. But even without them, the grip inside the cap works pretty well too.

    Nobody found any Axis yet? They are definitely the best of all 3 pens for spinning.

    And as JBiggie said, some of you already made up your mind before even trying the pens. If you already know you won't like them, just save your money for something else.

    But I know for a fact that a lot of people want to get started in PS and can't get pens or don't know how to mod. I am constantly receiving emails at Pentrix from people that want to know where they can buy a pen they can spin with. I think Spinz will help a lot of those people get started.

  393. Invincibleman
    Date: Tue, Apr 8 2008 03:53:02

    I never thought of the grip thing Kam. Thanks for the advice. When JAKKS gives you a mod; mod it some more. biggrin.gif


    @Jbiggie yeah I bought it. It really is not that bad, you just have to mess with the features a bit until it fits you

  394. servantofGod
    Date: Tue, Apr 8 2008 04:14:48

    I looked in our wal-mart at Bend, Oregon and we don't have them.
    I hope that its just slow getting here.

  395. K4S
    Date: Tue, Apr 8 2008 04:19:59

    Walmart up where i am doesnt have it...but i live in Canada and we always get stuff last -___-

  396. Dynamik
    Date: Tue, Apr 8 2008 10:33:29

    ill probably just buy an axis. it doesnt look horrible

  397. CPC
    Date: Tue, Apr 8 2008 13:49:49

    The axis is ok to me.
    It is a lot heavier than I expected. At first it did not feel right when I was spinning it but after a few minutes I adjusted and it was ok. I do some customizing to it to see if I can get it the way I like. Right now I will continue to spin my mx though.

    @Kam
    On the barrel of the axis there is this seam where the outsert wraps together that is kind of annoying. I am going to try and sand it down some but it would be nice if the barrel was completely smooth from the factory.

  398. InhumanElmo
    Date: Tue, Apr 8 2008 14:13:23

    ^ Like a printed design on the barrel, or an insert similar to the RSVP Cubix, just not as noisy.

  399. Jbiggie
    Date: Tue, Apr 8 2008 20:06:53

    Where did you get the AXIS?

    THE PENS ARE IN THE STATIONARY ISLE NOT IN THE TOY SECTION!

  400. nolan
    Date: Tue, Apr 8 2008 20:13:47

    Why are they in the Stationary Isle?

    And you can get them at walmart? I want the Axis sooooo bad.

    On the walmart website, when i search Spinz nothing comes up....

  401. Outlander
    Date: Tue, Apr 8 2008 20:34:48

    Pentech's Amazon store has them pictured, but our of stock. If you click the "2 used/new" they are in stock by Toys and Treasures.

  402. CPC
    Date: Tue, Apr 8 2008 20:58:54

    I got mine using the method that Outlander is talking about but you cannot choose which color/design that you want.

  403. soulsonic
    Date: Tue, Apr 8 2008 23:12:09

    canada sucks, why do we have to get them last =( i want one!!

  404. Missle_Z
    Date: Wed, Apr 9 2008 04:04:56

    Yeah I want one too D=
    I just realized if I told my dad to bring one down, even if I gave him exact desriptions of what to buy, he'd probably bring like a pack of cheap pens and be like
    "Make your own."

  405. pholord
    Date: Wed, Apr 9 2008 04:07:36

    Spinz are certainly in walmarts all over southern california. I just saw all 3 of them there. Does anyone kno about the "modz" packages with extra parts and stuff?

  406. IAmTheMrGuy
    Date: Wed, Apr 9 2008 16:59:00

    QUOTE (Jbiggie @ Apr 7 2008, 09:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Invisible man did you buy it?

    I bought the Ronin at walmart. It spins good when the cap is on the back. Isnt that where you put it when you spin?????

    You guys sound like haters. Geezzzz grow up how many people besides the people on these boards now abot the KT or other pens? Do you think a regular kid wants to go but RSVPs and mod them.

    As Kam said this is their first run. I am sure they are already working on any flaws and improving them.

    and BTW if you bought most pens and didnt modify them they wouldnt be as good and you would throw them away.

    Some of you have to many predetermined thoughts!

    You know, they arent haters, they have a right to review something. If someone reviews a video game and says it sucks, well this is the same thing. Leave people to their opinions.

  407. someone09
    Date: Wed, Apr 9 2008 19:55:23

    The thing is if you put the cap on the back ink gets on your hands (especially with hggs >.<)

  408. raE
    Date: Wed, Apr 9 2008 23:03:36

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=uKsLTG7xWZY

    0:50 - 1:04

    yet another hater...

  409. IAmTheMrGuy
    Date: Wed, Apr 9 2008 23:32:10

    QUOTE (raE @ Apr 9 2008, 06:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=uKsLTG7xWZY

    0:50 - 1:04

    yet another hater...

    *sigh* when will people like her not judge things until they've actually tried it. dry.gif

  410. NoRice4U
    Date: Wed, Apr 9 2008 23:33:24

    QUOTE (raE @ Apr 9 2008, 03:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=uKsLTG7xWZY

    0:50 - 1:04

    yet another hater...


    What a fucking slut bitch dumbass. If I ever meet her. PIMP SMACK'D BITCH

  411. Thnikkaman
    Date: Wed, Apr 9 2008 23:34:31

    i commented. happy.gif sasukesux345

  412. someone09
    Date: Thu, Apr 10 2008 00:32:07

    O.o calm down.

  413. InhumanElmo
    Date: Thu, Apr 10 2008 00:33:44

    Ok Im not gonna lie. That was HILARIOUS!

  414. Jbiggie
    Date: Thu, Apr 10 2008 16:16:06

    Has anyone bought the AXIS?

  415. Outlander
    Date: Thu, Apr 10 2008 20:26:44

    QUOTE (Jbiggie @ Apr 10 2008, 11:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Has anyone bought the AXIS?


    Ordering mine today on Amazon tongue.gif

  416. Kam
    Date: Thu, Apr 10 2008 22:10:20

    QUOTE (IAmTheMrGuy @ Apr 9 2008, 09:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    You know, they arent haters, they have a right to review something. If someone reviews a video game and says it sucks, well this is the same thing. Leave people to their opinions.


    There's nothing wrong with having opinions. In fact, I welcomed feedback and say would pass them on to Jakks, even though I'm not required to do so.

    What I don't like is when people make up their mind before even trying something. If you already decided that something is gonna suck, then your mind will focus on catching the flaws instead of being able to clearly see both the flaws and the benefits. That's all I'm saying.

  417. Darkeh
    Date: Thu, Apr 10 2008 23:08:02

    Looked at Walmart, Target, Staples and Office Depot(/Max?) nothing...sad.gif

  418. IAmTheMrGuy
    Date: Thu, Apr 10 2008 23:26:20

    @Kam
    I don't agree with what the people are saying before they've even tried it. I might pick up the axis myself. smile.gif By the way, I have an idea if you want to pass it on to jakks. What if you made a toy with a very simple basic pen/tube and then it came with a bunch of different ad-ons (caps, weights, grips, metal tips) I think that might hit a nice chord with some of the pen spinners here becuase they can custimize the pen more and have a bunch of different parts they can use with there own mods. You don't have to use this idea but if they made one I'd probably buy one myself laugh.gif

  419. Kam
    Date: Fri, Apr 11 2008 01:45:38

    QUOTE (IAmTheMrGuy @ Apr 10 2008, 04:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    @Kam
    I don't agree with what the people are saying before they've even tried it. I might pick up the axis myself. smile.gif By the way, I have an idea if you want to pass it on to jakks. What if you made a toy with a very simple basic pen/tube and then it came with a bunch of different ad-ons (caps, weights, grips, metal tips) I think that might hit a nice chord with some of the pen spinners here becuase they can custimize the pen more and have a bunch of different parts they can use with there own mods. You don't have to use this idea but if they made one I'd probably buy one myself laugh.gif


    Errr...that is already sort of what Spinz is doing. For the Ronin and Axis, the packages come with extra parts that you can swap and further customize your pen. There are also Modz packages that come with grips, caps, inserts, etc. that will allow further customization.

    In the future, I hope to get them to manufacture different parts for the same pen (eg.: different cap shapes instead of just caps with different colors), or other accessories.

    But you must understand that creating the molds for any product is quite expensive, so unless the line is doing well, they may not have the budget to create a thousand different accessories tongue.gif Also, it's harder for retailers to pick up all the different models if there are too many variations. They may not know which ones sell better.

  420. K4S
    Date: Fri, Apr 11 2008 01:52:48

    Should have convinced Jakk's into replicating HGG and selling them in North america. Then newbies would actually be able to make rsvp MX's for a total cost of only $3-4

    wink.gif

  421. servantofGod
    Date: Fri, Apr 11 2008 02:36:02

    My walmart finaly got the zero biggrin.gif
    none others though huh.gif
    the pen is ok but I will probably put some grips on it

    also the website that came on the instruction site for learning tricks dosn't seem to work huh.gif

  422. InhumanElmo
    Date: Fri, Apr 11 2008 02:37:53

    Yea www.spinzpens.com seems to be down.. sleep.gif

  423. servantofGod
    Date: Fri, Apr 11 2008 03:01:49

    very much unfortunate and quite upseting because I was eager to see it

  424. Invincibleman
    Date: Fri, Apr 11 2008 03:11:27

    The last time I looked at the site it only had some pictures of the pens and some words about spinZ. No tricks were listed yet.

  425. servantofGod
    Date: Fri, Apr 11 2008 03:25:40

    that would be grounds for a law suit considering that the paper says "Learn more tricks at: www.spinzpens.com"
    however they may be updating their site at this time to acomodate for the release of their products.

  426. Outlander
    Date: Fri, Apr 11 2008 03:27:56

    QUOTE (InhumanElmo @ Apr 10 2008, 09:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Yea www.spinzpens.com seems to be down.. sleep.gif


    Cool. I really want to see the layout of the site. It should be interesting.

    P.S. - Ordered an Axis and Ronin today tongue.gif

  427. Jbiggie
    Date: Fri, Apr 11 2008 03:48:16

    I emailed jakks and they said the new site would be up next week. I spoke to customer service so I couldnt get any other info.

  428. sadi teh pirate
    Date: Fri, Apr 11 2008 03:55:24

    QUOTE (K4S @ Apr 10 2008, 08:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Should have convinced Jakk's into replicating HGG and selling them in North america. Then newbies would actually be able to make rsvp MX's for a total cost of only $3-4

    wink.gif


    lol....this is not doubt a dumb question but....do pen companies (besides one like spinz) make copy rights?

  429. CPC
    Date: Fri, Apr 11 2008 13:44:26

    The caps on the Axis seem kind of thick to me compared to the body. It seems that it might help for a few tricks but in general it feels a little wierd.
    Has anybody else noticed this or do you like it that way?

  430. Zombo
    Date: Fri, Apr 11 2008 18:32:30

    if those pens have flaws, it means you still need to mod them to improve them smile.gif

  431. sketching
    Date: Fri, Apr 11 2008 18:40:19

    I wrote up a review of the Ronin pen here. Anyone else who has gotten a hold of that pen, please add your thoughts. Only stick to discussing what's included in the original packaging, just like any other stock pen.

  432. someone09
    Date: Fri, Apr 11 2008 18:54:32

    QUOTE (CPC @ Apr 11 2008, 08:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    The caps on the Axis seem kind of thick to me compared to the body. It seems that it might help for a few tricks but in general it feels a little wierd.
    Has anybody else noticed this or do you like it that way?

    You could file/sand them.

  433. IAmTheMrGuy
    Date: Fri, Apr 11 2008 19:16:24

    QUOTE (Kam @ Apr 10 2008, 08:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Errr...that is already sort of what Spinz is doing. For the Ronin and Axis, the packages come with extra parts that you can swap and further customize your pen. There are also Modz packages that come with grips, caps, inserts, etc. that will allow further customization.

    In the future, I hope to get them to manufacture different parts for the same pen (eg.: different cap shapes instead of just caps with different colors), or other accessories.

    But you must understand that creating the molds for any product is quite expensive, so unless the line is doing well, they may not have the budget to create a thousand different accessories tongue.gif Also, it's harder for retailers to pick up all the different models if there are too many variations. They may not know which ones sell better.

    The axis and Ronin have those? Shows you how much I know about the spinz laugh.gif I understand the problem with the molds too. I was thinking. Although we have the internet wouldn't be kind of cool to have almost all the mods together in one book. It might make it easier for new people to find the instructions and its nice to have all the mods right on hand instead of having to search around the internet. Anyways... I wish you good luck with the Spinz
    (oh, and to remedy the problem of having retailers know which pens to get to sell you could package some of the mod bits in with the pen itself and then have some extra ones seperatly, that way even if the retailer only wants to stock a little bit of it to test it there will still be bits in with the pens ^^)

  434. sketching
    Date: Fri, Apr 11 2008 19:30:04

    @IAmTheMrGuy: your post does not make a lot of sense.

    QUOTE
    The axis and Ronin have those? Shows you how much I know about the spinz laugh.gif
    Yes, it does. huh.gif

    QUOTE
    Although we have the internet wouldn't be kind of cool to have almost all the mods together in one book. Are you talking about the trick instructions? It might make it easier for new people to find the instructions and its nice to have all the mods right on hand instead of having to search around the internet.
    Are you referring to a book full of Spinz mods? You are only meant to switch out different colors as of right now, I don't see a need for a book of any kind.

    QUOTE
    ...you could package some of the mod bits in with the pen itself and then have some extra ones seperatly
    Which is what the "Modz" packs are, that kam already mentioned.

  435. Void
    Date: Fri, Apr 11 2008 19:51:01

    I got my Axis in the mail today, and I must say I like it a lot. It's fairly heavy, and being a very thumbspin-centric person, I really fancy its symmetry.

    One thing I noticed is that on mine, the back-end's cap (whichever one I put there), is a little wobbly at times. If I push it on VERY firmly, it helps a bit, but I think there should probably be a tad more surface length for the cap to rest on.

  436. IAmTheMrGuy
    Date: Fri, Apr 11 2008 20:13:21

    QUOTE (sketching @ Apr 11 2008, 02:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    @IAmTheMrGuy: your post does not make a lot of sense.

    Yes, it does. huh.gif

    Are you referring to a book full of Spinz mods? You are only meant to switch out different colors as of right now, I don't see a need for a book of any kind.

    Which is what the "Modz" packs are, that kam already mentioned.

    Hm.. I guess I didn't type very clearly laugh.gif So I'll answer your questions now.

    1. I'm not sure what you mean when you answer quote #1
    2. No I'm not referring to Spinz, I mean regular mods (Comssa, Dr Kt, RSVP MX that sort of stuff) I know they don't need a book for them, but sometimes I'd rather bring a book up to my desk to work on stuff then my laptop. If you thought I was reccomending that to Jakks Pacific thats where It might of got confusing. Im not recommending them to anybody. Its kind of thinking aloud/ Something I would personally like. Oh, and no I was not talking about trick instructionsm I was talking about instructions on how to make the mods.
    3. I know they have the modz, but I was saying that you could pack some extra bits in with one of the regular pens too so retailers wouldn't have to stock mods along with the other Spinz

    By the way, I read your review of the ronin. Its funny that they would actually put clear stickers in. the only reason I could think of is so you could color them, even so it wouldn't work that great. I hope I cleared some of the stuff up. If i didn't then no cookie for me smile.gif

  437. sketching
    Date: Fri, Apr 11 2008 20:24:22

    @IAmTheMrGuy:

    QUOTE
    1. I'm not sure what you mean when you answer quote #1
    I thought you were being sarcastic and making fun of kam's post. Sorry about that if you did not mean to do so.

    QUOTE
    2. No I'm not referring to Spinz, I mean regular mods
    It would be quite a big project to first get permission to publish (and I assume sell) a book of pen mods from all over the globe. That's why something like the wiki seems better to me, you can download individual wiki articles to your computer to view whenever you like.

    QUOTE
    3. I know they have the modz, but I was saying that you could pack some extra bits in with one of the regular pens too so retailers wouldn't have to stock mods along with the other Spinz.
    Each of the 3 Spinz pens come with a few extra parts, just different colors, but still with a few bits to start with.

    QUOTE
    By the way, I read your review of the ronin. Its funny that they would actually put clear stickers in. the only reason I could think of is so you could color them, even so it wouldn't work that great.
    The stickers are plastic, not paper, so you can't even do a proper job of coloring them yourself. Completely useless. >_<

  438. IAmTheMrGuy
    Date: Fri, Apr 11 2008 20:31:39

    QUOTE (sketching @ Apr 11 2008, 03:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    @IAmTheMrGuy:

    I thought you were being sarcastic and making fun of kam's post. Sorry about that if you did not mean to do so.

    It would be quite a big project to first get permission to publish (and I assume sell) a book of pen mods from all over the globe. That's why something like the wiki seems better to me, you can download individual wiki articles to your computer to view whenever you like.

    Each of the 3 Spinz pens come with a few extra parts, just different colors, but still with a few bits to start with.

    The stickers are plastic, not paper, so you can't even do a proper job of coloring them yourself. Completely useless. >_<

    Heres my answer
    1. I was kind of mocking myself smile.gif I didn't mean to offend Kam if I did
    2. Yeah, books like that would take forever to get published and when you finally did there would be new mods to put in ><
    4. I hate when they give you something completely useless like that
    (I had no reply to 3, nothing for me to be said)
    Hopefully I didn't type to unclearly this time laugh.gif

  439. Jbiggie
    Date: Sun, Apr 13 2008 22:45:27

    Anybody modded the axis yet?

  440. Void
    Date: Mon, Apr 14 2008 21:25:19

    QUOTE (Jbiggie @ Apr 13 2008, 04:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Anybody modded the axis yet?


    This is actually not as easy as it sounds, as I have not found a lot of compatible elements to mod it with, yet. It seems that the barrel size is juuuuust a little too different to work with any of the parts I have. I'll keep my eye out for compatible parts/pens.

    Complaints:

    Why in the name of Jeebus did they put a plastic laminate on the outside of the barrel? My pen has already suffered a nick in that laminate, and it's very irritating and annoying. I was hoping not to have to resort to the extra barrel so soon. sad.gif That laminate is the cause of the "seam" that the previous poster mentioned. I'm guessing it saves money as opposed to enameling every barrel, but it's not going to work in my opinion.

    In addition to my aforementioned complaint about the wobbliness of the back cap, I've noticed that the caps are not swappable. The back cap does not fit on the ink side of the pen. It's a minor gripe, however.

    Suggestions:

    -Make the unscrewable piece under the back cap straight, as the barrel itself is. Currently it tapers, and I suspect that is why that cap is wobbly.

    -Enamel that barrel! Everyone drops their pen. Sure people like Kam practice on a towel apparently, but I like to spin everywhere I go, and as such the pen needs to be as durable as possible (It WILL get dropped).

  441. Sfsr
    Date: Tue, Apr 15 2008 07:10:30

    QUOTE
    *** We're sorry. This item can't be shipped to your selected destination. You may either change the shipping address or delete the item from your order by changing its quantity to 0 and clicking the update button below. ( See geographical restrictions.) ***

    Fuck...

  442. pen_MAKer
    Date: Tue, Apr 15 2008 08:39:52

    i think this shit of selling mods is just wrong....fuck spinz and pen gear what whatever they're names are....

    i don't like it...have a bad feeling about this all....

  443. Outlander
    Date: Tue, Apr 15 2008 12:22:59

    That sucks Sfsr. Is that from Amazon.com that they wont ship to you?



    @penMAKer - At least try them out before your flame them completely. These are the first factory manufactured pens (Penz Gear and SpinZ) the be released.

    If selling mods is wrong then you must hate Penwish as well(they sell mods...)

  444. B3ndythumbs
    Date: Wed, Apr 16 2008 02:04:49

    QUOTE (pen_MAKer @ Apr 15 2008, 04:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    i think this shit of selling mods is just wrong....fuck spinz and pen gear what whatever they're names are....

    i don't like it...have a bad feeling about this all....


    i disagree. i think it would make it easier. they research an ultimate mod so we dont have to waste time. only our money when we buy it tongue.gif happy.gif

    i cant wait for it to come out! lol pen maker u can cuss me out now...

  445. Dreambaby
    Date: Wed, Apr 16 2008 14:06:05

    For me, this pen (and all the other SpinZ) are a big disappointment. I really don't like how they look and think that Pen'z Gear look much better. I haven't spun the Axis yet, and maybe it spins good, but I wouldn't buy it for 20$.. I guess those pens are more attractive to young/new pen spinners, which haven't seen anything like this before. I might though, buy or trade one of them (probably Axis, since it is the pen I prefer) but only for collection purposes.

    Regarding to they way Axis look, I would probably give it a 6 out of 10.

    *Looking forward to new SpinZ pens with inserts/outserts made by Kam ^^*

  446. Penwish
    Date: Wed, Apr 16 2008 16:29:51

    Hate penwish? =((((((((((((((((((((( me sad to hear that. but remeber that i sell the parts as well and not just mods. so i'm trying to provide for both the customizers and premodders.




    QUOTE (Outlander @ Apr 15 2008, 07:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    That sucks Sfsr. Is that from Amazon.com that they wont ship to you?



    @penMAKer - At least try them out before your flame them completely. These are the first factory manufactured pens (Penz Gear and SpinZ) the be released.

    If selling mods is wrong then you must hate Penwish as well(they sell mods...)

  447. Outlander
    Date: Wed, Apr 16 2008 16:42:45

    Noooo! I <3 PENWISH lol.

    I was just pointing out to penMAKer that the selling of mods is not a bad thing. You are a great contribution to the pen spinning community, bringing us pens and parts wer normally would have more trouble finding.

  448. El Deal
    Date: Wed, Apr 16 2008 18:49:46

    In my opinion.....i really dont like spinz....i like not all poeple do it and onec these things come out i feel like everyones gonna get them and be like "oh shit look what i got ......i got some penz....oh shit i just did a ta....im way beter than you" and idk sad.gif

  449. nolan
    Date: Wed, Apr 16 2008 21:49:29

    hopefully the walmart will be stocking them tonight. I was looking at where items where supposed to go, and saw all 3 spinz types. woot!

  450. Look Into the Sun
    Date: Wed, Apr 16 2008 23:21:29

    Perhaps it's better for spinz to sell HGGs in the US. Or instead of having a pre-assembled pens, they can just include a clear-body and then some caps, weights, grips, etc. This way it's more personal. Oh, and maybe different weighted ink tubes because some people prefer light bodies and others heavy.

    A type of pen spinning mat would be cool too. Like Le0n has in his vids.

    .... yeah. Just me dreaming.

  451. Missle_Z
    Date: Thu, Apr 17 2008 01:50:39

    I just use this bandana with a dragon and stuff on it if I make videos.
    But yeah I think SpinZ is a failure but if they did really well and came out with other mods....then I think they would be A LOT better because they know what they're now supposed to make etc...

  452. Jbiggie
    Date: Thu, Apr 17 2008 03:03:52

    Guys they are coming out with more Mods. They have a whole line of accessories called Modz.

    Check out ESO's review on youtube of the Spinz Ronin. The 1 problem(A little front heavy) he address is easily fixed. I wrote how to do it earlier.

    Just buy a Ronin upgrade kit and replace the plastic cap at the end of the barrel and replace it with a metal cone from the upgrade kit. This also lets you reverse the ink. Pen is very balanced

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-hrOv9Fudc





  453. Mr.Binker
    Date: Thu, Apr 17 2008 03:15:30

    I got all 3 Spinz pens and they suck! Keep up the mods. All Spinz is doing is trying to make some bucks trying to trick us. Don't get them.

  454. NoRice4U
    Date: Thu, Apr 17 2008 05:12:17

    QUOTE (Mr.Binker @ Apr 16 2008, 07:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I got all 3 Spinz pens and they suck! Keep up the mods. All Spinz is doing is trying to make some bucks trying to trick us. Don't get them.


    Maybe you just suck

  455. hknl13
    Date: Thu, Apr 17 2008 06:22:59

    QUOTE (NoRice4U @ Apr 17 2008, 12:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Maybe you just suck


    agreed.
    i got some, and they're actually quite ok, not my first choice, but not terrible

  456. pen_MAKer
    Date: Thu, Apr 17 2008 11:56:23

    QUOTE (El Deal @ Apr 16 2008, 07:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    In my opinion.....i really dont like spinz....i like not all poeple do it and onec these things come out i feel like everyones gonna get them and be like "oh shit look what i got ......i got some penz....oh shit i just did a ta....im way beter than you" and idk sad.gif


    agreed!!

    this guy understands me....if these come out, penspinning won't be as special as it is now.... unsure.gif sad.gif

  457. Sfsr
    Date: Thu, Apr 17 2008 13:10:43

    QUOTE (Dreambaby @ Apr 16 2008, 04:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    For me, this pen (and all the other SpinZ) are a big disappointment. I really don't like how they look and think that Pen'z Gear look much better. I haven't spun the Axis yet, and maybe it spins good, but I wouldn't buy it for 20$.. I guess those pens are more attractive to young/new pen spinners, which haven't seen anything like this before. I might though, buy or trade one of them (probably Axis, since it is the pen I prefer) but only for collection purposes.

    Regarding to they way Axis look, I would probably give it a 6 out of 10.

    *Looking forward to new SpinZ pens with inserts/outserts made by Kam ^^*

    But, you don't even spin pens so fuck the what. So, aren't all your pens for collection purposes? Looks is all objective btw, what doesn't look good with it? The shape? Cause how the Pen'z Gear look with thinner ends lookes weirder than these Spinz imo. Do you mean that you'd give the pen 6/10 overall based on how it looks, or 6/10 in looks? Pretty big difference, seeing how you can't just look at a pen and give it a grade penspinning-wise, especially if you don't really know what you're talking about. The Axis is probably a more suitable pen for spinning than most pens out there.



    QUOTE (El Deal @ Apr 16 2008, 08:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    In my opinion.....i really dont like spinz....i like not all poeple do it and onec these things come out i feel like everyones gonna get them and be like "oh shit look what i got ......i got some penz....oh shit i just did a ta....im way beter than you" and idk sad.gif


    QUOTE (pen_MAKer @ Apr 17 2008, 01:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    agreed!!

    this guy understands me....if these come out, penspinning won't be as special as it is now.... unsure.gif sad.gif

    Yeah, 'cause you guys are soooo much cooler than that, acting like you do now! I mean.. seriously, grow up. If you can't do something just 'cause other people also start doing it, then just fucking stop breathing altogether. Do what you do for the fun of it. If you can't do that then you shouldn't even have started. Stop caring.

  458. El Deal
    Date: Thu, Apr 17 2008 13:58:12

    Thats why i fuckin said in my OWN opinion.....ok i think the penz are cool and but damn dont have to fuckin cry about shit that i say.........i mean can anybody put there opinion somwhere and not be fuckin critisized

  459. Eso
    Date: Thu, Apr 17 2008 14:13:07

    [way off topic]
    Everybody is entitled to their own opinion. How well one backs their opinion up determines how credible they seem. Sfsr, no need to flip out like a ninja. El Deal, no need to get heated over what Sfsr said. After all, it's his opinion. tongue.gif

    [on topic]
    I wonder if they will release a second generation of Zero, Axis, and Ronin. If they continuously make improvements (and by listening to the communities' feedback), I think this line would have a great potential.

  460. El Deal
    Date: Thu, Apr 17 2008 14:17:28

    Sorry Eso....well i got some penz and there ok but they need better quality unsure.gif

    and they should come out wiht more stuff happy.gif

  461. pen_MAKer
    Date: Fri, Apr 18 2008 21:02:36

    QUOTE (Sfsr @ Apr 17 2008, 02:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    But, you don't even spin pens so fuck the what. So, aren't all your pens for collection purposes? Looks is all objective btw, what doesn't look good with it? The shape? Cause how the Pen'z Gear look with thinner ends lookes weirder than these Spinz imo. Do you mean that you'd give the pen 6/10 overall based on how it looks, or 6/10 in looks? Pretty big difference, seeing how you can't just look at a pen and give it a grade penspinning-wise, especially if you don't really know what you're talking about. The Axis is probably a more suitable pen for spinning than most pens out there.






    Yeah, 'cause you guys are soooo much cooler than that, acting like you do now! I mean.. seriously, grow up. If you can't do something just 'cause other people also start doing it, then just fucking stop breathing altogether. Do what you do for the fun of it. If you can't do that then you shouldn't even have started. Stop caring.


    it's not that sfsr...i just...don't like these... dry.gif

  462. Void
    Date: Fri, Apr 18 2008 21:12:52

    Ok, so I got a Zero for 6 bucks today... this pen has a lot of potential. It's WAY too light, and has the same shrink wrapped laminate problem as the Axis, but I like its smooth shape from tip to tip. The problem is that it is WAY too light and has too little momentum.

    I think with the special double-length caps, it has a LOT of potential. I just can't find the right thing to stick inside of the cap to give it more momentum. I actually LIKE how this is a double-sided pen too, and it has blue and black ink (different color under each cap). Anyway, anyone have any ideas on weights? The RSVP grips are too thick to fit inside, I'm afraid sad.gif

  463. servantofGod
    Date: Sat, Apr 19 2008 03:46:28

    QUOTE (Void @ Apr 18 2008, 05:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Ok, so I got a Zero for 6 bucks today... this pen has a lot of potential. It's WAY too light, and has the same shrink wrapped laminate problem as the Axis, but I like its smooth shape from tip to tip. The problem is that it is WAY too light and has too little momentum.

    I think with the special double-length caps, it has a LOT of potential. I just can't find the right thing to stick inside of the cap to give it more momentum. I actually LIKE how this is a double-sided pen too, and it has blue and black ink (different color under each cap). Anyway, anyone have any ideas on weights? The RSVP grips are too thick to fit inside, I'm afraid sad.gif

    I found that anyball grips can be squezzed on to the caps to add some weight and still look cool if placed right with good collors
    however this pen is the "level 1"(and only one my wal-mart has cry.gif) the other two probably weigh more because they are "2" and "3"

    overall its a nice pen for beginers but I want to try the axis one day.

  464. Escapist1
    Date: Sat, Apr 19 2008 04:48:12

    Gah! when will they come out in Kansas already? I've checked every day.

  465. shiness
    Date: Sat, Apr 19 2008 05:07:09

    ahhh i wonder when they're gonna come out in canada
    i really wanna stand outside a place that sells them then i can take out a number 2 pencil and own all the people buying the spinz..
    that be funny biggrin.gif
    fow

  466. Roxas
    Date: Sat, Apr 19 2008 21:36:17

    QUOTE (shiness @ Apr 18 2008, 10:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    ahhh i wonder when they're gonna come out in canada


    I emailed them yesterday and the person is still figuring out when and where they will be sold in Canada... dry.gif

    But it looks like a good chance that we'll get them happy.gif

  467. sangara
    Date: Sun, Apr 20 2008 02:41:57

    I recently picked up a Ronin. And I have to say after some tinkering and modding its not that bad at all. Sure its not as special as my Singo tipped MX but really people need to try them before they say crap about them smile.gif .

  468. pen_MAKer
    Date: Tue, Apr 22 2008 11:37:05

    in fact sfsr, i forgot to say that it's not the ppl spinning that bother me...is the ppl that won't BUILD their mods that does...that's why i dn't like SPINZ or Pen Gear or wtvr....understand?

  469. Zombo
    Date: Tue, Apr 22 2008 12:59:46

    QUOTE (pen_MAKer @ Apr 22 2008, 06:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    in fact sfsr, i forgot to say that it's not the ppl spinning that bother me...is the ppl that won't BUILD their mods that does...that's why i dn't like SPINZ or Pen Gear or wtvr....understand?


    David Weis doesn't build mods and doesn't spin mods, does he bother you?

    and also, why do you even care that other ppl mod their pens or not.

  470. Delta Ray Edge
    Date: Tue, Apr 22 2008 14:18:37

    QUOTE (sangara @ Apr 19 2008, 09:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I recently picked up a Ronin. And I have to say after some tinkering and modding its not that bad at all. Sure its not as special as my Singo tipped MX but really people need to try them before they say crap about them smile.gif .


    Tried them and hate them. They are so darn UGLY!

    They just dont work for me. They may work for other people... good for them.

    -Mystic-

  471. someone09
    Date: Tue, Apr 22 2008 14:19:29

    I think a Ronin would be a lot better if you reversed the ink and added a tip in the back.
    how heavy is the tip in the front compared to a signo tip

  472. WhiteFang
    Date: Tue, Apr 22 2008 14:36:18

    QUOTE (pen_MAKer @ Apr 22 2008, 09:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    in fact sfsr, i forgot to say that it's not the ppl spinning that bother me...is the ppl that won't BUILD their mods that does...that's why i dn't like SPINZ or Pen Gear or wtvr....understand?

    do you have a problem with your house? i'm pretty sure you didn't BUILD it. you(ur parents) buy the house because they don't want to build it themself. so, some other people build the house and sell it to you. your don't have to build your house, they make money. Everybody's happy.

    exactly the same with Spinz. if some person who just started spinning doesn't want to 'BUILD' a pen, they can buy Spinz. Spinz get richer and the starter doesn't have to buy the pen. everyone's happy.

    i reckon in about 10 years, when pen spinning grows bigger, and if spinz is still round. there going to be more people spinning spinz then mods.

    if you have a problem with spinz, simply just don't buy them.

  473. Sleeve
    Date: Tue, Apr 22 2008 14:42:57

    I personally do not like them, but that's just me. It's seems like a generic spin-off, like Mountain Lightning or something for Mountain Dew...you know? I think they would appeal to younger and newer spinners. Then again, I'm a pretty new spinner and they don't appal to me. Despite all this, I agree with Eso. Maybe, if they work on it, it will be better?

  474. CPC
    Date: Wed, Apr 23 2008 18:10:18

    I got an Axis that has caps that are the same color scheme as the one on the box. The outsert is different but the caps are the same. This one looks alot better than the others. Some of the other colors make it look kind of cheap but this color scheme looks alot better.

  475. Picool
    Date: Thu, Apr 24 2008 09:52:50

    Sorry to post here but if a guy can trade me the 3mods i will be enjoy ^^.


    Really the outsert is bad quality ? In the pack you have a mini-book with somes tricks right ? Can you show a picture please

  476. pen_MAKer
    Date: Thu, Apr 24 2008 21:18:12

    QUOTE (WhiteFang @ Apr 22 2008, 03:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    do you have a problem with your house? i'm pretty sure you didn't BUILD it. you(ur parents) buy the house because they don't want to build it themself. so, some other people build the house and sell it to you. your don't have to build your house, they make money. Everybody's happy.

    exactly the same with Spinz. if some person who just started spinning doesn't want to 'BUILD' a pen, they can buy Spinz. Spinz get richer and the starter doesn't have to buy the pen. everyone's happy.

    i reckon in about 10 years, when pen spinning grows bigger, and if spinz is still round. there going to be more people spinning spinz then mods.

    if you have a problem with spinz, simply just don't buy them.


    not only my parents built the place i'm living in but also i helped to do the project....so... >_>

    and to Zombo----> i just think penspinning will stop being so special as it is now.....

  477. Jbiggie
    Date: Thu, Apr 24 2008 22:42:28

    Just saw the new spinz website. look really good.

    you can design your own pen and the tutorials are cool!

    www.spinzpens.com

  478. Rorix
    Date: Thu, Apr 24 2008 22:47:54

    Their Thumbspin 1.5 tutorial actually shows a Thumbspin 2.0.

    Edit: Their tutorials aren't bad, they show slow motion really well. They could be useful.

  479. pholord
    Date: Thu, Apr 24 2008 23:10:31

    Im impressed with the upgrade kits for ROnin and Axis. They come with a lot of grips (4) and weights which is really what we pen spinners tend to use a lot. In fact, the Ronin upgrade kit comes with so many parts that in fact you use it alone without the Ronin itself. I hope they are not too expensive cause im interested in it.

  480. JDubbin
    Date: Thu, Apr 24 2008 23:15:45

    the upgrade kits do like nice biggrin.gif

  481. hiryuukatana
    Date: Thu, Apr 24 2008 23:18:57

    i have all three and i really like the ronin and axis. the axis has more distributed weights and momentum since it has longer caps as opposed to a kt where it is only heavy at the tip ends. the ronin has a really heavy tip but there might be some ways to get around it. personally, i don't think spinz is bad at all spinning-wise but it does take the fun out of modding.

  482. nateiskewl
    Date: Thu, Apr 24 2008 23:40:29

    I love how they misname tricks. dry.gif

    I got the Axis, and sure enough, just like the other pens, it sucks...

    BTW: It may be good for you guys that have recently started spinning, but when you try to link hard tricks, you're much better off with an MX.

  483. someone09
    Date: Thu, Apr 24 2008 23:48:31

    the trick names they use are outdated.

  484. nateiskewl
    Date: Thu, Apr 24 2008 23:52:59

    That's what I just said....

  485. someone09
    Date: Thu, Apr 24 2008 23:54:48

    I'm still wondering why their TS 1.5 is 2.0. Also why do they put reverse around as one of the most used tricks? I think normal around is used far more often.

  486. Darkeh
    Date: Thu, Apr 24 2008 23:58:55

    They might have meant bak, not rev around

  487. someone09
    Date: Fri, Apr 25 2008 00:00:09

    Gunman != bak

  488. Billy Bob McPhill
    Date: Fri, Apr 25 2008 04:49:42

    has anyone ese noticed this

    QUOTE
    Why do i need a special pen to spin?
    You need to have special pens that are equally balanced for Pen Spinning.( huh.gif ) If you try a trick like Thumbaround with any ordinary pen it will be difficult to do as the pen is not weighted properly; ect...

    That's from there FAQs

  489. Kam
    Date: Fri, Apr 25 2008 05:04:33

    Hmm...I provided the names and videos for them, so if the names are outdated, I'm sorry. If someone (hopefully someone that works on the Naming Committee?) cares to provide me with their correct names, I'll let them know.

    Also...I accidentally did one TS 2.0 when shooting for TS 1.5 sleep.gif I guess they thought that particular shot looked better and used it...lol. I'll tell to pick a 1.5 one.

  490. WhiteFang
    Date: Fri, Apr 25 2008 05:12:20

    QUOTE (pen_MAKer @ Apr 25 2008, 07:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    not only my parents built the place i'm living in but also i helped to do the project....so... >_>

    and to Zombo----> i just think penspinning will stop being so special as it is now.....

    really? you built your house urself? ohmy.gif wbu your car?

  491. Rorix
    Date: Fri, Apr 25 2008 05:12:28

    @Kam: Most of them are fine, I think. Sonic 2x is just called Sonic 34-12 now, and Gunman is the Japanese naming for Indexaround reverse.

  492. Zombo
    Date: Fri, Apr 25 2008 14:59:26

    QUOTE (pen_MAKer @ Apr 24 2008, 04:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    not only my parents built the place i'm living in but also i helped to do the project....so... >_>

    and to Zombo----> i just think penspinning will stop being so special as it is now.....


    that makes no sense, in fact, penspinning si different from penmodding. This does not affect pen spinning, it affects pen modding.


    and it does not make pen modding less special. In fact, it makes it even more special. If ppl buy their own pens, and you mod your own, then your own custom-made mod is even more special, because right now (almost) everybody mod their own pen, so it's more special if some ppl bought their pens, while others mod them.

    edit: The site looks pretty good, some errors here and there, but nothing that could not be fixed. @Billy Bob: well they're not wrong. One of the reasons we mod is to make a pen that's balanced.

  493. Leviathan
    Date: Fri, Apr 25 2008 17:12:12

    I don't like where they said you need to have special pens to spin. I can spin unmodded pens just fine. I have no problem doing tricks like thumbaround.

  494. Jbiggie
    Date: Fri, Apr 25 2008 17:52:14

    I think the site is cool and will help Pen Spinning!

  495. Scott Shaputis
    Date: Fri, Apr 25 2008 18:58:34

    QUOTE (Leviathan @ Apr 25 2008, 12:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I don't like where they said you need to have special pens to spin. I can spin unmodded pens just fine. I have no problem doing tricks like thumbaround.



    Yeah, that pissed me off pretty badly.

  496. Maor101
    Date: Fri, Apr 25 2008 20:26:04

    these pens look so fucking awesome !
    I so wanna get one
    loved the idea of upgrade kits !
    i hope that when I'll be in the US during the summer these will still be sold !
    i think it's great and i hope it'll go well and more ppl will start penspinning

    QUOTE (Leviathan @ Apr 25 2008, 08:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I don't like where they said you need to have special pens to spin. I can spin unmodded pens just fine. I have no problem doing tricks like thumbaround.

    yeah, but thumbaround is just a fundemental...
    performing smooth combos and more advanced tricks will be harder using just a random pen...
    and you know, they want to sell they products...

  497. Erirornal K.
    Date: Fri, Apr 25 2008 21:15:18

    However, they're saying it's impossible if you use a normal pen, which is far from the truth. They're giving false information. =/

    It's not necessarily a bad product, but they're making it sound as if they invented everything... *shrug*

  498. PenCell
    Date: Fri, Apr 25 2008 21:24:39

    QUOTE
    SpinZ will be hosting our very own online Pen Spinning Tournament this Fall! It will be a multi-round elimination tournament and the first Pen Spinning tournament in the USA. CHECK BACK FOR MORE DETAILS!


    This might be interesting, i wanna do it and pwn everyone. xd.gif

  499. someone09
    Date: Fri, Apr 25 2008 21:25:06

    unless eriror joins

  500. Jbiggie
    Date: Fri, Apr 25 2008 21:28:05

    Where does it say impossible???????? Dont add in your own comments. You do need to use modified pens to progress and perform complicated tricks! You guys are really stretching and trying to find things wrong!

  501. Erirornal K.
    Date: Fri, Apr 25 2008 21:35:18

    QUOTE (Jbiggie @ Apr 25 2008, 11:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Where does it say impossible???????? Dont add in your own comments. You do need to use modified pens to progress and perform complicated tricks! You guys are really stretching and trying to find things wrong!


    David Weis? Leviathan uses unmodded pens as well and owns harder than 99% of the penspinners.

    Unmodded pen. =/

  502. someone09
    Date: Fri, Apr 25 2008 21:36:16

    He doesn't even use a pen and he owns.

  503. Rorix
    Date: Fri, Apr 25 2008 22:21:35

    Their Thumbspin 1.5 tutorial is completely wrong. They just took the tutorial for Thumbaround and added "Tap the pen for an extra half rotation" at the end

  504. someone09
    Date: Fri, Apr 25 2008 22:32:31

    Yes, it should say to fold the thumb so it spins for another .5 rotation. What they're saying would be TA -> half tap

    EDIT: Kam is doing it correctly.

  505. Zombo
    Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 00:02:53

    Jbiggie are you hired by Jakks lol you're such a big homer,

    bah, they said "need"... well I think you guys are just arguing semantics here. I don't think they mean absolutely, just a suggestion.

  506. Jbiggie
    Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 01:16:32

    I just think people should be glad to see someone promote PS. Only going to be good for it.

  507. PenCell
    Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 01:19:35

    QUOTE (someone09 @ Apr 25 2008, 04:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    unless eriror joins

    Damn your right bangHead.gif

  508. WhiteFang
    Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 02:52:29

    QUOTE (Jbiggie @ Apr 26 2008, 07:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Where does it say impossible???????? Dont add in your own comments. You do need to use modified pens to progress and perform complicated tricks! You guys are really stretching and trying to find things wrong!

    look at TNC's vid with a pencil.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk-0b6TTW_w

  509. Maor101
    Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 09:49:51

    heh yeah performing tricks is possible with unmodded pens but come on !
    they want to sell ffs !
    I've got ur point but comon...
    u wont start selling a new product saying its useless and u can basicly just save ur money and not buy it...
    yeah ur right a modded pen is not a must but so what...
    anyways most of the PSers DO have modded pens...so why do u have do argue about this...

    its just an adversiment [this whole site...]
    adversiments always lie...or most of the times....

  510. UEDan
    Date: Sun, Apr 27 2008 07:33:54

    Seriously where the fuck are you guys finding these Spinz?! I check 2 Wal-marts! I even got the balls to ask a lady there where the "Spinning pens" were! I GOT NOTHING!? Checked the toy and pen section!

    QUOTE (Maor101 @ Apr 26 2008, 02:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    heh yeah performing tricks is possible with unmodded pens but come on !


    Yeah I was laughing pretty hard when I saw that too!
    Then again, how else would they make money.

  511. Boshi
    Date: Sun, Apr 27 2008 08:40:03

    dude, aysh is like frikkin pro and he spins mainly dr grips...

  512. iNoob
    Date: Sun, Apr 27 2008 09:21:41

    people dun flame pls. spinz = penwish that only sells premods, except that they design their own mods and not make alr invented mods. tts all

  513. Jbiggie
    Date: Wed, Apr 30 2008 05:31:08

    Anybody bought the Modz packs?

  514. Gunblakes
    Date: Wed, Apr 30 2008 10:33:57

    QUOTE (iNoob @ Apr 27 2008, 05:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    people dun flame pls. spinz = penwish that only sells premods, except that they design their own mods and not make alr invented mods. tts all


    o_O lol PenWish did come up with their own variations of mods. Like the ayatori mod using a lakubo grip instead of a Signo Knock Type grip.

    On topic, are people getting jealous that more and more people are getting mainstream access to what was once considered as an underground and exclusive hobby? Just a thought. happy.gif

  515. iNoob
    Date: Wed, Apr 30 2008 11:01:20

    apparently so. ah well. its natural

  516. Acidic
    Date: Wed, Apr 30 2008 13:59:15

    QUOTE (Gunblakes @ Apr 30 2008, 02:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    On topic, are people getting jealous that more and more people are getting mainstream access to what was once considered as an underground and exclusive hobby? Just a thought. happy.gif


    yeah i think its coming to that >< this one kid has a Spinz zero at school it didn't spin at all it was lame tongue.gif

  517. Jbiggie
    Date: Wed, Apr 30 2008 20:41:41

    Why was it lame? if the kid cant spin the pen wont!

  518. Erirornal K.
    Date: Thu, May 1 2008 15:03:22

    It wasn't the kid who couldn't spin, it was that spinner addition to the Zero, which you can attach to the pen.

  519. Jacobä
    Date: Thu, May 1 2008 18:22:05

    Isn't it good?
    Penwish for pen modders and spinz for designed pens. Both with global selling...
    If you want a thing like dr.grip, pilot or hgg than penwish it, if you want a designed pen then spinz. Everybody gets happy.

  520. shiness
    Date: Thu, May 1 2008 23:30:18

    QUOTE
    The most popular tricks are the Fingerpass, Thumbaround, Gunman, Twisted Sonic and Inverse Sonic. These are the tricks you will see in almost any Pen Spinning video. When these tricks are performed well they are great examples of what can be done with a pen.



    i believe sonic is more popular then inverse sonic WHY DON'T THEY HAVE SONIC!?!?!?

  521. nateiskewl
    Date: Thu, May 1 2008 23:38:59

    I really wish they had someone else (in addition to Kam) to advise them. He's been off the spinning scene for years. No offense, Kam. wink.gif

  522. someone
    Date: Fri, May 2 2008 02:04:54

    Isn't pass more used than sonic?

  523. Kam
    Date: Fri, May 2 2008 02:16:06

    QUOTE (nateiskewl @ May 1 2008, 03:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I really wish they had someone else (in addition to Kam) to advise them. He's been off the spinning scene for years. No offense, Kam. wink.gif


    I may not be the most up-to-date pen spinner around, but just because I haven't shown new videos doesn't mean I've been off for years...I've just been...more underground tongue.gif

  524. Jbiggie
    Date: Sat, May 3 2008 19:24:01

    Did anyone post anymore reviews on youtube?

  525. k2thez
    Date: Sat, May 3 2008 20:03:28

    QUOTE (shiness @ May 1 2008, 06:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    i believe sonic is more popular then inverse sonic WHY DON'T THEY HAVE SONIC!?!?!?

    That's not technically true. Inverse sonic might be more popular because it's advanced and not a fundamental. The inverse sonic 23-12~> pass 13-34 is used a lot.

  526. someone
    Date: Sat, May 3 2008 23:08:53

    pass is used far more than inverse sonic or sonic

  527. k2thez
    Date: Sat, May 3 2008 23:17:16

    Yeah, that's true. But I think that's what they mean by fingerpass.

  528. Jbiggie
    Date: Thu, May 8 2008 20:51:42

    ANYONE SEEN THE COMMERCIAL??????????

    CVS has the MODZ PACKS.

  529. Dritan Z
    Date: Thu, May 8 2008 20:57:04

    Ya I saw it on tv.

  530. Jbiggie
    Date: Thu, May 8 2008 21:10:38

    What did you think? I think it was cool to PS on TV

  531. CPC
    Date: Thu, May 8 2008 21:14:35

    I saw one of the commercials on there website.

  532. ChinesePandaMan8
    Date: Thu, May 8 2008 22:49:21



    SpinZ commerical on Youtube.

  533. ChinesePandaMan8
    Date: Thu, May 8 2008 22:58:04

    Thank you very much laugh.gif

  534. NoRice4U
    Date: Thu, May 8 2008 23:37:21

    IMO, the spinz commercial is really retarded, i mean what does a kid riding his bike have anything to do with it

  535. MX kid
    Date: Fri, May 9 2008 00:01:16

    QUOTE (NoRice4U @ May 8 2008, 07:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    IMO, the spinz commercial is really retarded, i mean what does a kid riding his bike have anything to do with it


    yeah, maybe to show that pen spinning is some kind of sport?

  536. Huroni Remsin
    Date: Fri, May 9 2008 00:02:28

    lol yeah..that made me laugh tongue.gif

  537. Jbiggie
    Date: Fri, May 9 2008 00:12:46

    Looks cool! I skate and I thought it was cool to bring skating into it. I think they might want to make it seem PS is as cool as BMX and Skating!

  538. Erirornal K.
    Date: Fri, May 9 2008 00:20:07

    His voice really irritated me, as well as the echo. I guess the overall commercial is nice, even though the biking and skating is completely irrelevant.

    I guess they want to attract a younger audience, but meh...

    Not saying that they don't want to do their best, really. I believe they're taking a huge step into the deep with this, that's all. It takes guts to promote a new hobby from scratch.

  539. Darkeh
    Date: Fri, May 9 2008 00:51:02

    Ima try to go to CVS soon, I hope they have them, Walmart didnt dry.gif

  540. Kam
    Date: Fri, May 9 2008 01:37:38

    QUOTE (Erirornal K. @ May 8 2008, 04:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    His voice really irritated me, as well as the echo. I guess the overall commercial is nice, even though the biking and skating is completely irrelevant.

    I guess they want to attract a younger audience, but meh...

    Not saying that they don't want to do their best, really. I believe they're taking a huge step into the deep with this, that's all. It takes guts to promote a new hobby from scratch.



    Agreed...the voice really annoyed me as well...The single word sentences with echoes...it's like...."I can't read the words on the screen, so please read them to me...and to be sure I get it...repeat each word afterwards" lol

    But if you guys mute the volume...the commercial is not bad smile.gif

    The skateboarding and BMX, I believe, are to relate the skill aspect of PS to those activities.

    Kam

    PS: You gotta admit...those hands look hot tongue.gif

  541. Darkeh
    Date: Fri, May 9 2008 01:40:26

    Lol, <3'd the hands
    My mom said I can go look tomorrow, hope they are there dry.gif
    Oh, wait, I have $0...crap...

  542. sketching
    Date: Fri, May 9 2008 01:48:51

    I agree that the video footage was good enough but I don't see why the commercial wanted to make pen spinning out to be an extreme sport. stupid.gif

  543. Darkeh
    Date: Fri, May 9 2008 01:49:41

    QUOTE (sketching @ May 8 2008, 08:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I agree that the video footage was good enough but I don't see why the commercial wanted to make pen spinning out to be an extreme sport. stupid.gif

    I missed that part huh(1).gif

  544. someone
    Date: Fri, May 9 2008 01:59:41

    I think how they tried to make it seem intense made it cheesy.

  545. Zombo
    Date: Fri, May 9 2008 02:15:27

    QUOTE (Kam @ May 8 2008, 09:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Agreed...the voice really annoyed me as well...The single word sentences with echoes...it's like...."I can't read the words on the screen, so please read them to me...and to be sure I get it...repeat each word afterwards" lol

    But if you guys mute the volume...the commercial is not bad smile.gif

    The skateboarding and BMX, I believe, are to relate the skill aspect of PS to those activities.

    Kam

    PS: You gotta admit...those hands look hot tongue.gif


    is that the commercial you filmed in Ottawa?

  546. sadi teh pirate
    Date: Fri, May 9 2008 02:16:53

    QUOTE (shiness @ May 1 2008, 06:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    i believe sonic is more popular then inverse sonic WHY DON'T THEY HAVE SONIC!?!?!?

    meh~~~they r partially right....i would say in "advanced" combos, the sonic normal is so hardly used (except in demon's sonic), the inverse sonic is used more often? (but still not enough to be considered "one of the most popular tricks")

  547. Kam
    Date: Fri, May 9 2008 03:19:32

    QUOTE (Zombo @ May 8 2008, 07:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    is that the commercial you filmed in Ottawa?


    Yeah...I hope the footage was alright.

    But, to be honest, I think we're more critical than the average audience since we already have a good idea of what cool Pen Spinning videos are like.

    Sure...there are many things that I wish they had done different, but the commercial is not terrible...I've seen a lot of commercials worse than this one tongue.gif

  548. iMatt
    Date: Fri, May 9 2008 05:17:07

    commericial:

    Only one thing to say.......ROLFLAMO!

    Kam, much as i respect ya dude, WTF!?? I lost a couple brain cells on that one.
    i'm just giving ya shit, i know your not in charge of the commercials. But if they want to tap into the market of 10-14 year olds, it's gonna have to be 80,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times less cheesy.

  549. Gunblakes
    Date: Fri, May 9 2008 05:48:50

    QUOTE (iMatt @ May 9 2008, 12:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    commericial:

    Only one thing to say.......ROLFLAMO!

    Kam, much as i respect ya dude, WTF!?? I lost a couple brain cells on that one.
    i'm just giving ya shit, i know your not in charge of the commercials. But if they want to tap into the market of 10-14 year olds, it's gonna have to be 80,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times less cheesy.


    Isnt that the whole point? mellow.gif

  550. Sfsr
    Date: Fri, May 9 2008 06:27:38

    QUOTE (Kam @ May 9 2008, 03:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    PS: You gotta admit...those hands look hot :P

    I was thinking just that... :D

    Really cool to see penspinning filmed so high-qual and slowed down though! That'd be something to work towards, filming penspinning in studios.

  551. Backer629
    Date: Mon, May 12 2008 00:37:54

    Saw them in my local CVS the other day, not to bash them but what I saw looked...cheesy to say the least. The pack featured a "spinning ring" so you could spin like the pros. huh.gif

  552. InhumanElmo
    Date: Mon, May 12 2008 02:29:31

    Looking at the updated site, I must say im dissapointed with the mod packs. I mean great in theory but wtf is up with the colors? U get a clear barrel with a yellow transparent cap, and the insert doesnt go with either? Like really how does that match? Color packages need to be more thought through. The only pen I see worth getting if any, would be the Ronin. Although the Ink is coming out of the front, it doesnt look gaudy, the mod kits for it practically give away another full pen, and they just look more fun to spin than the others.

  553. sketching
    Date: Mon, May 12 2008 05:49:32

    The Spinz pens make me wish I knew someone brand new to PS, so I could see what someone thinks of them who is into PS but not as entrenched as me. I don't know any "casual" spinners. dry.gif

  554. Jbiggie
    Date: Tue, May 13 2008 19:44:58

    Just saw a kid at my school with an AXIS! Its was cool to see.

  555. sketching
    Date: Wed, May 14 2008 04:50:45

    Did you say anything?

  556. Gunblakes
    Date: Wed, May 14 2008 04:56:10

    But the spinning ring is kewlshit. you can do "Shadow" 20.0 revs with it. ohmy.gif

  557. SevinosI
    Date: Wed, Jun 18 2008 20:16:37

    are they out everywhere in america? and what stores u get them at?

  558. CPC
    Date: Wed, Jun 18 2008 20:38:59

    Yes
    I've seen them in walmart. Check there.

  559. nolan
    Date: Wed, Jun 18 2008 21:14:10

    You can get the Ronin and the beginner one at CVS, along with Mod packs.

    The tips are really heavy... A Ronin made MX style is shorter and way heavier then a real MX.

  560. CudOfCow
    Date: Thu, Jun 19 2008 13:44:31

    I saw these in walmart. Needless to say i was more interested in buying a 12 pack of RSVP's. They didnt look like they were that great for spinning... I had fun spinning the box though. The Axis looks like the only one that i'd be interested in buying, but its $20...

    I gotta say...I felt like i was looking at an action figure more than a pen....so if the target age group is 10-14...i think that they might make some money...but it seems like its targeted towards parents looking to buy their kids a toy, rather than the kids themselves wanting to get into pen spinning. Whenever i buy pens, i do it on my own.....a secret fetish....Something i dont want my parents involved in.

    Anyone have a writing sample? Do they use Gel Ink or Ball Point?

  561. iamk34n3
    Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 05:11:40

    Anybody get their SPINZ in the mail yet? I mean other than Scott and Eriror. The Ronin uses ballpoint ink.

  562. Samson
    Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 19:07:11

    My sister just saw the spinz pens. She said they look disgusting as pens and they're overpriced. biglaugh.gif

  563. diamond99007
    Date: Mon, Jun 23 2008 04:49:01

    QUOTE (Samson @ Jun 20 2008, 12:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    My sister just saw the spinz pens. She said they look disgusting as pens and they're overpriced. biglaugh.gif


    lol i'm still flaming on spinz...
    but they kinda are...if you look at it from another angle huh(1).gif

  564. Webo Splash
    Date: Mon, Jun 23 2008 04:51:04

    I love spinz actually...they have that authentic "thing" that I like. I have the ronin and you can just mod it if you want. Its like a normal rsvp v1. You dont like it? Mod it to your liking.

  565. Sword
    Date: Mon, Jun 23 2008 06:35:28

    I was pretty surprised when I just happened to be in CVS today and saw the stock of Spinz. I felt a little bit embarrass to pick it up and look at it with my girlfriend and her friends next to me. Anyways, after giving it some thought, I think I shall go ahead and purchase one. Though they don't stock AXIS at CVS, just Ronin and Zero. Going to go out and get one tomrrow along with some pilot pens.

  566. SevinosI
    Date: Wed, Jun 25 2008 00:11:58

    i just found spinz pens in the wallgreens i live near but they didn't have axis sad.gif

  567. ikore
    Date: Wed, Jun 25 2008 02:00:37

    QUOTE (SevinosI @ Jun 24 2008, 05:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    i just found spinz pens in the wallgreens i live near but they didn't have axis sad.gif


    hmm ya i havent seen the axis anywhere where are they mainly found at?

  568. Samson
    Date: Wed, Jun 25 2008 02:07:25

    QUOTE (ikore @ Jun 24 2008, 09:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    hmm ya i havent seen the axis anywhere where are they mainly found at?


    Did you try Wal-Mart yet? They sell spinz axis here in my Wal-Mart for $20.(thats too much money dry.gif )

  569. ikore
    Date: Wed, Jun 25 2008 02:13:45

    QUOTE (Samson @ Jun 24 2008, 07:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Did you try Wal-Mart yet? They sell spinz axis here in my Wal-Mart for $20.(thats too much money dry.gif )


    what section in walmart toys or pens couldnt find it pen section and i dont dare enter the toy section with all those kids screaming and shit

  570. iamk34n3
    Date: Wed, Jun 25 2008 02:17:34

    I found mines in the pen section of walmart.

  571. ikore
    Date: Wed, Jun 25 2008 02:20:14

    QUOTE (iamk34n3 @ Jun 24 2008, 07:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I found mines in the pen section of walmart.


    hmm guess ill just have to try both and look harder hey do people think it could be in the sports section becuase in the kam interview thingy they said "a new sport called pen spinning" and maybe walmart put it there? idk what im talking about...

  572. iamk34n3
    Date: Wed, Jun 25 2008 02:28:13

    I doubt they would put pens next to basketballs and whatnot. BTW your walmart may not have it. I know UED searched like 99999 stores and couldn't find them. dry.gif

  573. Spinz08
    Date: Wed, Jun 25 2008 02:47:11

    They are at every Walmart in the pen aisle. look near the bottom.


  574. XiLeRaTe
    Date: Sun, Jul 13 2008 19:37:55

    My friend was able to purchase a spinz pen from rite-aid. It costed around $15 for two.

  575. CudOfCow
    Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 19:41:07

    I dont understand why SPINZ dont have GOOD mod parts. Even the mod kits are lame. I think it would have been cool if they made some HGG grip subs, or DR. Grip tip subs...or even cool outserts, or stickers, or inserts for RSVP's. I mean, the grips they have are so cool with flames and designs, why didnt they make some BETTER ones!?! Do the parts even fit on RSVP's? Are there any mods that use spinz parts? or are the mod parts only usable if you buy a spinz pen. I think they could have actually made a lot of money on these things if they applealed to the current pen spinning crowd rather than try to sell them to the shopaholic mothers of 10 year old kids with ADHD.

  576. AwonW
    Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 20:07:40

    QUOTE (CudOfCow @ Jul 19 2008, 12:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I dont understand why SPINZ dont have GOOD mod parts. Even the mod kits are lame. I think it would have been cool if they made some HGG grip subs, or DR. Grip tip subs...or even cool outserts, or stickers, or inserts for RSVP's. I mean, the grips they have are so cool with flames and designs, why didnt they make some BETTER ones!?! Do the parts even fit on RSVP's? Are there any mods that use spinz parts? or are the mod parts only usable if you buy a spinz pen. I think they could have actually made a lot of money on these things if they applealed to the current pen spinning crowd rather than try to sell them to the shopaholic mothers of 10 year old kids with ADHD.

    Uhh the parts aren't MEANT to go on RSVPs dude. They're for the Spinz pens themselves.

  577. iamk34n3
    Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 20:12:28

    QUOTE (CudOfCow @ Jul 19 2008, 12:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I dont understand why SPINZ dont have GOOD mod parts. Even the mod kits are lame. I think it would have been cool if they made some HGG grip subs, or DR. Grip tip subs...or even cool outserts, or stickers, or inserts for RSVP's. I mean, the grips they have are so cool with flames and designs, why didnt they make some BETTER ones!?! Do the parts even fit on RSVP's? Are there any mods that use spinz parts? or are the mod parts only usable if you buy a spinz pen. I think they could have actually made a lot of money on these things if they applealed to the current pen spinning crowd rather than try to sell them to the shopaholic mothers of 10 year old kids with ADHD.


    What it sounds like to me is that you've never tried out spinz... Spinz aren't that bad...sure they need to fix some things, but we as the penspinning community should be happy that penspinning is evolving... So just chill out... If you don't like them, then just don't buy them.

  578. CudOfCow
    Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 20:24:34

    QUOTE (AwonW @ Jul 19 2008, 04:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Uhh the parts aren't MEANT to go on RSVPs dude. They're for the Spinz pens themselves.


    No i realize this, that was my point. The pens arent very easy to use with other pens in order to make NEW mods. You can only use them with themselves.

    QUOTE
    What it sounds like to me is that you've never tried out spinz... Spinz aren't that bad...sure they need to fix some things, but we as the penspinning community should be happy that penspinning is evolving... So just chill out... If you don't like them, then just don't buy them.


    I am happy that pen spinning is evolving, i'm not opposed to the commercial sale of pens designed for spinning. I just wish they felt more like pens, and had better accessories and looked less like a toy for little kids to lose behind the couch cushons. Its depressing to see every store around me carry these pens and everytime i look at them there is absolutely no push for me to buy them. They arent any use to me. The parts are not easily incorporated with mods. I mean...think about it man....

    If you had Spinz grips, that were just like HGG grips but with flames and cool designs, i'd buy tons of them. If the spins tips were big and heavy and fit well on the end of current mods, i'd buy them lots. If the outserts and stickers were awesome, i'd buy tons of them. But...they arent. They dont appeal to me at all.

    I'm not angry about it, i just wish there was more appeal to them. If there is even going to be a Second Generation of spinz, thats my reccomendation. Has anyone heard that there will be in the future? Because seriously, this batch, is no good.

  579. Sfsr
    Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 20:26:49

    QUOTE (CudOfCow @ Jul 19 2008, 09:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I think they could have actually made a lot of money on these things if they applealed to the current pen spinning crowd rather than try to sell them to the shopaholic mothers of 10 year old kids with ADHD.
    Which do you think there are more of that can afford buying Spinz, penspinners, or shopaholic mothers of 10 year old kids (with ADHD)?

    QUOTE (CudOfCow @ Jul 19 2008, 10:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    No i realize this, that was my point. The pens arent very easy to use with other pens in order to make NEW mods. You can only use them with themselves.
    Which is the POINT of the Modz packages. The Spinz pens themselves can easily be used to create modifications of your own though. Axis body with RSVP cap and grips and tip from other pens. G-3 body with Ronin parts. Etc.

    QUOTE (CudOfCow @ Jul 19 2008, 10:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I am happy that pen spinning is evolving, i'm not opposed to the commercial sale of pens designed for spinning. I just wish they felt more like pens, and had better accessories and looked less like a toy for little kids to lose behind the couch cushons. Its depressing to see every store around me carry these pens and everytime i look at them there is absolutely no push for me to buy them. They arent any use to me. The parts are not easily incorporated with mods. I mean...think about it man....

    If you had Spinz grips, that were just like HGG grips but with flames and cool designs, i'd buy tons of them. If the spins tips were big and heavy and fit well on the end of current mods, i'd buy them lots. If the outserts and stickers were awesome, i'd buy tons of them. But...they arent. They dont appeal to me at all.

    I'm not angry about it, i just wish there was more appeal to them. If there is even going to be a Second Generation of spinz, thats my reccomendation. Has anyone heard that there will be in the future? Because seriously, this batch, is no good.


    ...are you really 27 year? You really don't sound like it. Why care about others? This batch is good enough for a first try. Spinz is supposed to be a seperate standing line of pens for penspinning, they're not meant to be merged with existing pen-mods. Oh and about the "I wish they felt more like pens", I don't see you complaining about the mods we otherwise spin.

    If you don't plan on spinning the pens separately then there's probably no idea in buying them, no.

    Buy the pens or don't, but don't complain here about it.

  580. CudOfCow
    Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 21:25:09

    QUOTE (Sfsr @ Jul 19 2008, 04:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Which do you think there are more of that can afford buying Spinz, penspinners, or shopaholic mothers of 10 year old kids (with ADHD)?

    Which is the POINT of the Modz packages. The Spinz pens themselves can easily be used to create modifications of your own though. Axis body with RSVP cap and grips and tip from other pens. G-3 body with Ronin parts. Etc.



    ...are you really 27 year? You really don't sound like it. Why care about others? This batch is good enough for a first try. Spinz is supposed to be a seperate standing line of pens for penspinning, they're not meant to be merged with existing pen-mods. Oh and about the "I wish they felt more like pens", I don't see you complaining about the mods we otherwise spin.

    If you don't plan on spinning the pens separately then there's probably no idea in buying them, no.

    Buy the pens or don't, but don't complain here about it.


    Why not complain about it here? This is the Spinz thread is it not? Seems like this is the only place there is TO complain about it. I dont understand why no one has agreed with me on this...

    I'm not trying to completly trash spinz pens. I think its a step in a good direction. I just think that in the future they should put out something that we havent already seen before.

    Why dont they sell tips with LED's? or really cool grips that can be used with already existing pen mods? Why arent there weighted caps, that fit all kinds of other pens? Why arent there UV reactive inserts/outserts, or glow in the dark parts? What is with the corny pen spin ring? Do pen spinners use attachments like rings on their pens too do tricks? no. 10 year olds do. I see a whole ton of great uses for something like this, but what is out there now is very proprietary.

  581. Boshi
    Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 21:39:54

    i dont get the commercials..."PERCISION BALANCE OOO"...ronin is front heavy...not very percise dry.gif

  582. Sfsr
    Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 21:41:09

    QUOTE (CudOfCow @ Jul 19 2008, 11:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I'm not trying to completly trash spinz pens. I think its a step in a good direction. I just think that in the future they should put out something that we havent already seen before.
    Have you seen pens developed for penspinning being sold before?

    QUOTE (CudOfCow @ Jul 19 2008, 11:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Why dont they sell tips with LED's? or really cool grips that can be used with already existing pen mods? Why arent there weighted caps, that fit all kinds of other pens?
    Stretchy caps? I don't see that happening. Same goes with the other things, is it realistic to expect glowing tips? And again, why would they make parts that are meant to be used with other pens? They are developing a loosely standing line of pens here, not make them depended on other pens or modifications they don't know how long we'll like. We probably even aren't their primary goal-group.

    QUOTE (CudOfCow @ Jul 19 2008, 11:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Do pen spinners use attachments like rings on their pens too do tricks? no. 10 year olds do.
    I thought you were 10-year old?

  583. CudOfCow
    Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 22:36:25

    QUOTE (Sfsr @ Jul 19 2008, 05:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Have you seen pens developed for penspinning being sold before?

    There are a lot of pens devloped for penspinning. They are very innovative and interesting. Most of them dont look like pens that even resemble other pen mods.

    QUOTE
    And again, why would they make parts that are meant to be used with other pens?

    We have an entire section of this site devoted to building and modding pens. Thats why. Penspinning is all about making mods, and spinning pens. Its about being creative and interesting. Why be so proprietary?

    QUOTE
    They are developing a loosely standing line of pens here, not make them depended on other pens or modifications they don't know how long we'll like.

    Not long. i dont even have one and i'm not interested because i think they will lose my interest real fast. wink.gif

    QUOTE
    We probably even aren't their primary goal-group.

    I dont think their goal-group is a group that even spins pens. No talent 10 year olds would be goo goo for these. Cheers!

    QUOTE
    Stretchy caps? I don't see that happening. Same goes with the other things, is it realistic to expect glowing tips?

    And i didnt mean stretchy caps, then again, even this isnt such a bad idea, you can do a lot with plastic. And i dont see why its not realistic to see glowing tips, an LED SPINZ retractable pen that still worked like a pen would RULE! Even a pen made with plastic that glows in the dark would be innovative. Tell me that the Ronin is innovative? its the same as an RSVP MX. Big deal. Outserts with skulls, fire and dead chickens and pictures of baked potatos would be awesome, the current ones remind me of collecting pogs. even pogs had more promise.

    QUOTE
    I thought you were 10-year old?

    No i'm 27. AND i spin pens. AND i like it. You got a problem with that? lol. There are a lot of older penspinners here, its not limited to just one age group and thats what is great about PS, anyone can do it regardless of age/sex/location.

    QUOTE
    And again, why would they make parts that are meant to be used with other pens?

    just think of the possibilities! they sell mod kits! They could make all kinds of cool parts and distribute them to the masses of already excited and enthusiated pen spinners. THAT would make pen spinning grow.

    Think about skateboarding, they make all kinds of decks, trucks, wheels of all shapes and colors that can be interchanged. If this activity is going to grow, we need something like that. Not toy sales.


    I apolagize if i'm offending anyone. Thats not the reason i spoke up. I think that SPINZ has a lot of possibilities, but everytime i go look at them in CVS or Walmart, i am turned off by all of the features they missed out on.

  584. Sfsr
    Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 22:51:16

    Exactly. Skateboarders get parts to combine with other parts, just like we get parts from Spinz to combine with other parts, from Spinz. You don't see skateboarders attaching rollerskate-wheels to their decks, or use a blank piece of wood to ride on, now do you? Skateboards were also considered and treated as toys. I guess they aren't treated like that any longer, and we can hope for the same when it comes to spinning pens.

    QUOTE (CudOfCow @ Jul 20 2008, 12:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    There are a lot of pens devloped for penspinning. They are very innovative and interesting. Most of them dont look like pens that even resemble other pen mods.
    No there are not. Pen'z Gear were the first to be released, in Japan, and about two months later Spinz were released.

    QUOTE (CudOfCow @ Jul 20 2008, 12:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    We have an entire section of this site devoted to building and modding pens. Thats why. Penspinning is all about making mods, and spinning pens. Its about being creative and interesting. Why be so proprietary?
    You didn't understand me correctly. Why would they make that? There's no profit for them.

    QUOTE (CudOfCow @ Jul 20 2008, 12:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Not long. i dont even have one and i'm not interested because i think they will lose my interest real fast. wink.gif
    Again you understood me wrong. I meant that we don't stick with the same pen mods all that long. How would they know which to work on? Yesterday it was Ayatori-mod, today it's seven's mod. Not to talk about that they probably wouldn't be allowed to create replicas.

    QUOTE (CudOfCow @ Jul 20 2008, 12:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Tell me that the Ronin is innovative? its the same as an RSVP MX. Big deal. Outserts with skulls, fire and dead chickens and pictures of baked potatos would be awesome, the current ones remind me of collecting pogs. even pogs had more promise.
    Is the Ronin the same as the MX? Have you spun it? They're as much alike as... ah, the Ayatori-mod and seven's mod (since I talked about them before). Inserts/Outserts with skulls and fire, check. Dead chickens and baked potatoes...? I think you should seek help.

    QUOTE (CudOfCow @ Jul 20 2008, 12:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    No i'm 27. AND i spin pens. AND i like it. You got a problem with that? lol. There are a lot of older penspinners here, its not limited to just one age group and thats what is great about PS, anyone can do it regardless of age/sex/location.
    I'm not complaining about your age and the fact that you spin pens, I'm complaining about your horrid way of expressing yourself.

    QUOTE (CudOfCow @ Jul 20 2008, 12:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    just think of the possibilities! they sell mod kits! They could make all kinds of cool parts and distribute them to the masses of already excited and enthusiated pen spinners. THAT would make pen spinning grow.
    No. That would make spinners like you happy for the moment, but penspinning wouldn't grow. There are no "masses of already excited and enthusiated pen spinners" out there. When it comes to penspinners, the word "masses" can never be used, cause we are just a few. The only way to expand penspinning is to reach new groups, which Spinz is doing. No doubt only 1/10 of the people who purchase Spinz pens knew some penspinning-trick beforehand.

  585. CudOfCow
    Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 23:27:42

    QUOTE
    No. That would make spinners like you happy for the moment, but penspinning wouldn't grow. There are no "masses of already excited and enthusiated pen spinners" out there. When it comes to penspinners, the word "masses" can never be used, cause we are just a few. The only way to expand penspinning is to reach new groups, which Spinz is doing. No doubt only 1/10 of the people who purchase Spinz pens knew some penspinning-trick beforehand.


    i agree. That was my point.

    Spinz are for non spinners and at least for me personally, they are not all that applealing. Especially considering the months and months of hype.

  586. iamk34n3
    Date: Sun, Jul 20 2008 00:10:23

    QUOTE (CudOfCow @ Jul 19 2008, 04:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    i agree. That was my point.

    Spinz are for non spinners and at least for me personally, they are not all that applealing. Especially considering the months and months of hype.


    Then why rant on this board? Why not just send Jakks Pacific an email of how bad their product is and how they should improve it? I haven't even seen the Spinz representative on the board in a long time...

  587. CudOfCow
    Date: Sun, Jul 20 2008 00:14:46

    QUOTE (iamk34n3 @ Jul 19 2008, 08:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Then why rant on this board? Why not just send Jakks Pacific an email of how bad their product is and how they should improve it? I haven't even seen the Spinz representative on the board in a long time...


    I dont understand why its taboo to rant? I'm not swearing about them, i'm just saying that they are no good and that i'm dissapointed. Is this not the place for that? Should i say it on another board?

  588. nateiskewl
    Date: Sun, Jul 20 2008 01:01:05

    SpinZ are like McDonalds toys, they're entertaining for about 5 minutes and then they just break. Also, they're made by a company that's been caught up in the lead paint fiasco. Not just that, they don't even come with a Happy Meal! I'd rather spend $2 on a double-capped RSVP than wasting $8-30 on some mass-produced shit that's PrEciSioN bALaNcEd and CuStomIzABlE!!!!!!1!111!1!!1eleven

    EDIT: look what I found:


    I love how they change the entire look of the Ronin so it doesn't look like crap.

  589. Sfsr
    Date: Sun, Jul 20 2008 10:50:12

    QUOTE (CudOfCow @ Jul 20 2008, 02:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I'm not swearing about them, i'm just saying that they are no good and that i'm dissapointed.
    Have you given the pens a chance when it comes to spinning them?

    QUOTE (CudOfCow @ Jul 20 2008, 01:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Spinz are for non spinners and at least for me personally, they are not all that applealing. Especially considering the months and months of hype.
    What months of hype? The only hype there was was the one we built up ourselves, so you should blame all penspinners for that, not JAKKS.


    @ nate: wtf are you talking about. Anyway, can't really see from that pic but the Ronin looks the same?


    jesus... what's up with the negative attitude [edit->] that some spinners have?

  590. Zombo
    Date: Sun, Jul 20 2008 15:06:30

    QUOTE (Sfsr @ Jul 20 2008, 06:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    jesus... what's up with the negative attitude amongst spinners?


    nice generalization, SPINZ had haters from the start, this thread serves as a discusssion around them, it's not a problem to have different opinion.

  591. Eso
    Date: Sun, Jul 20 2008 16:03:33

    I just want to make a few things clear before this gets out of hand:

    1) Even IF Spinz wanted to make knock off HGG grips or whatever, they probably couldn't due to copyright reasons.

    2) I'd imagine the aim of Spinz is to create their OWN line, not follow others. They are doing their own research. Hey, I can respect that.

    3) You are entitled to your own opinion, but your credibility is lessened when you start complaining without taking any kind of action about it. Sure, this thread is used for discussion about Spinz, but who knows how often Spinz08 checks this thread? I'd prefer a more direct approach if I wanted results.

    4) If you want your opinion to be taken seriously, I suggest you sToP tYpiN lik dis. Also, sometimes I get the feeling that some of you simply don't like Spinz just for the sake of it. I get this feeling because some of you don't even want to give constructive feedback, and instead just want to bash. Sorry, but I can't really take that kind of attitude seriously.

  592. iMatt
    Date: Sun, Jul 20 2008 18:34:48

    I have to agree with Eso. Yeah I thought SpinZ were going to bomb, but honestly you guys are attacking everything else but the pens.

    QUOTE
    Also, they're made by a company that's been caught up in the lead paint fiasco.


    Seriously wtf? What does a lead paint fiasco affect how these pens spin?

    I can understand that he pens aren't made of the best of quality, but its not like you drop it and it breaks. My ronin hasn't broken and that thing has survived a lot of drops, same goes for the AXIS.

    I've actually taken a liking to spinning my Ronin. Instead of just pissing and moaning like a 5 year old who didn't get his candy, GIVE SOME DAMN FEEDBACK TO THE GUYS IN A REASONABLE FORMAT!

    Example: For reference, I think the plastic on the ronin and zero SpinZ products seems to be a bit fragile, if you do any improvements in the future please look into using a more sturdy plastic to withstand drops.

    or

    On the SpinZ AXIS, try smoothing out the seem line on the pens outsert.

    ITS THAT EASY!!!

  593. nateiskewl
    Date: Sun, Jul 20 2008 18:46:26

    By talking about the lead paint stuff, I was supporting my argument that my SpinZ should come with a Happy Meal.

  594. CudOfCow
    Date: Sun, Jul 20 2008 19:19:03

    QUOTE (nateiskewl @ Jul 19 2008, 09:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    SpinZ are like McDonalds toys, they're entertaining for about 5 minutes and then they just break. Also, they're made by a company that's been caught up in the lead paint fiasco. Not just that, they don't even come with a Happy Meal! I'd rather spend $2 on a double-capped RSVP than wasting $8-30 on some mass-produced shit that's PrEciSioN bALaNcEd and CuStomIzABlE!!!!!!1!111!1!!1eleven


    nate, you rule! hahahhaha

    And you're right.

    I think the part that bothers me about them the most, is how much i was looking forward to them coming out. They had a chance to be really awesome. Thumbs down. Thumbs in the bums.

  595. Sfsr
    Date: Sun, Jul 20 2008 19:59:26

    Wait... but you haven't even spun them?

    @ Zombo: sorry about that, recent events and reactions of certain spinners have just made me really disappointed.
    @ Eso: thanks, I agree with what you wrote. I just wasn't able to express it in as clear ways as you :P

  596. NaDa
    Date: Sun, Jul 20 2008 20:08:29

    The plastic could be of better quality, but I don't see how you can say they are bad for spinning if you have (apparently) never spun them.

  597. Webo Splash
    Date: Sun, Jul 20 2008 20:28:06

    That's why they made "Mod piece packs" it's all in their marketing strategy. Plus, this is only the beginning. Spinz just started, and they can improve over time. Give them the credit they deserve.

  598. Spinz08
    Date: Mon, Jul 21 2008 17:42:33

    I dont know where you get your info but we have had no products recalled or had lead paint issues.

  599. Zombo
    Date: Mon, Jul 21 2008 18:12:31

    indeed if nate is referring to last year's holiday controversial recall (i think it even caused the owner of the chinese factory to commit suicide), it was Mattel:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/11/business...ess/11lead.html
    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/14/business...ness/14toy.html

    check your facts before using them please...

  600. sangara
    Date: Mon, Jul 21 2008 18:20:06

    *sigh*

    I'd just like to say that at first I thought these things were going to be crap, but then I tried them, I have to say nothing was really that bad about them. Front heavy? Signo tip my friends its plain and simple, but off of that subject, I just really think that the potential we have with Spinz is amazing and with attitudes like Cud, and Nate we are just throwing that away.

  601. ikore
    Date: Mon, Jul 21 2008 18:28:18

    looks like many people are just complaining that spinz arent what the commercials really advertise . yes we all know that they arent really that customizable but every one is saying that they arent balanced. the only one that is not balanced is the ronin and i dont think that people should be hating JUST BECAUSE only 1 of their pens arent balanced. my only complaint is that they looks cheap. honestly i bet if spinz use better plastic for example the plastic they use on RSVPs people wouldnt complain as much.

  602. CudOfCow
    Date: Mon, Jul 21 2008 18:29:33

    QUOTE (Spinz08 @ Jul 21 2008, 01:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I dont know where you get your info but we have had no products recalled or had lead paint issues.


    I didnt find anything about any lead issues, but Jakks has had recalls. This is normal in the toy industry, as well as other industries. The pens have not had any recalls and are safe as far as we know. I dont think this is an issue. I did find that Jakks lost money during that "lead fiasco" but that was mostly due to consumer fears. Saying there have been NO recalls is just innacurate.

    http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml07/07101.html
    http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml03/03153.html

    The judge did throw out this lawsuit:
    http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/6...estlemania.html

    http://www.reuters.com/article/companyNews...NG7303720080423

    This article says the following:
    http://www.gurufocus.com/news.php?id=20669
    Jakks competes with much larger toy companies such as Mattel, Hasbro and Marvel. Over the last 6 months the toy industry has been hit hard by recalls resulting from quality control issues with Chinese manufacturing. Jakks to date has not had any of these problems. Additionally, I think the market expectation at this point is that holiday retail sales were weaker then forecasted for the toy industry and that given the state of the economy a weaker consumer will not spend as much on toys. I think these factors have resulted in the shares of these toy companies trading near or below their 52 week low levels. I believe this presents an excellent opportunity to purchase Jakks at a significant discount to it's intrinsic value as I think Jakks will be able to grow and take advantage of the problems that have hit their rivals, especially Mattel. I also think that in the long run people will continue to purchase toys, especially the toys that JAKKs sells, despite an economic slowdown

    http://rcvehicles.about.com/b/2007/09/06/t...-lead-paint.htm

  603. sangara
    Date: Mon, Jul 21 2008 19:32:51

    Cud seriously just stop you're making an ass of yourself, it was easy to see that he was talking about Spinz themselves.

  604. CudOfCow
    Date: Mon, Jul 21 2008 19:50:58

    QUOTE (sangara @ Jul 21 2008, 02:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    *sigh*

    I'd just like to say that at first I thought these things were going to be crap, but then I tried them, I have to say nothing was really that bad about them. Front heavy? Signo tip my friends its plain and simple, but off of that subject, I just really think that the potential we have with Spinz is amazing and with attitudes like Cud, and Nate we are just throwing that away.


    Sangra, I want to clarify that i'm not against the idea of mass produced Spinz. I think that there is a lot of potential here. I did want to voice my opinions about them though. My biggest issue is that a big toy company like Jakks that had the potential to create something that no current mod can match has done a horrendous job at being innovative and creative. I mean...why even buy the ronin? RSVP MX's are better. They could have done so much better, its disapointing when an opportunity to be creative like that gets wasted.

    I wasnt trying to bash them. But i did want to stir up controversy so that if another company gets the chance, or if Jakks plans on making something like this in the future, THIS penspinning community knows what it wants. Is Jakks aligned with the current population of penspinners? or are they a giant company trying to make a buck off of a control group they know will spend money on whatever junk they sell, even if it is crap, because it has the words Pen Spinning on it.

    I could always write to Jakks, but who am i? I'm not even that good at penspinning. But if a larger voice was present, in a controlled forum such as this one, perhaps ideas for a better design could be created in the future. One will all kinds of bells and whistles.

    This is the forum to talk about it. Positive or negative criticism about spinz, belongs here. Those pens are for us. Or are they?

    And about the recalls, i wrote that i found nothing about any recalls and the pens. I wrote only what was already public. I also said that recalls are normal in the toy industry and that Jakks does not need to be demonized for it.

  605. sangara
    Date: Mon, Jul 21 2008 20:04:42

    QUOTE (CudOfCow @ Jul 21 2008, 12:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Sangra

    I wasnt trying to bash them. But i did want to stir up controversy so that if another company gets the chance, or if Jakks plans on making something like this in the future, THIS penspinning community knows what it wants. Is Jakks aligned with the current population of penspinners? or are they a giant company trying to make a buck off of a control group they know will spend money on whatever junk they sell, even if it is crap, because it has the words Pen Spinning on it.


    Well first learn to spell but other wise, what do you mean THIS community knows what it wants? As far as I'm concerned this board is extremely diverse and separated. There's even an example within this thread itself look at the difference in comments between Eso and Sfsr vs you and nate there's diversity right there so you can't say this community knows what it wants. And asking if Jakks is aligned with penspinners is just a joke, I don't think we even need ask that question, also how could you comment on "or are they a giant company trying to make a buck?". What do you think every single business in the world is trying to do? Make money, oh noes capitalistic society makes mai brains hurts cause I want to be cool and different.

  606. CudOfCow
    Date: Mon, Jul 21 2008 22:09:08

    QUOTE (sangara @ Jul 21 2008, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Well first learn to spell but other wise, what do you mean THIS community knows what it wants? As far as I'm concerned this board is extremely diverse and separated. There's even an example within this thread itself look at the difference in comments between Eso and Sfsr vs you and nate there's diversity right there so you can't say this community knows what it wants. And asking if Jakks is aligned with penspinners is just a joke, I don't think we even need ask that question, also how could you comment on "or are they a giant company trying to make a buck?". What do you think every single business in the world is trying to do? Make money, oh noes capitalistic society makes mai brains hurts cause I want to be cool and different.



    Otherwise is one word. Practice what you preach. wink.gif tongue.gif
    Sorry about the spelling mistakes, this reply box doesnt have a spell checker and i type quickly.

    By "THIS community", i am talking about people that currently spin. Yourself, eso, sfsr, nate, myself...etc.... I'm talking about people that are enthusiastic about the art form. I'm talking about the people who want to see penspinning progress and become big. The people i'm not talking about are those ten year olds who want their parents to buy them GI Joes everytime they go into the grocery store. Thats all i meant by saying "THIS community". It was very generalized.

  607. Eso
    Date: Tue, Jul 22 2008 20:55:30

    QUOTE (CudOfCow @ Jul 21 2008, 03:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    My biggest issue is that a big toy company like Jakks that had the potential to create something that no current mod can match has done a horrendous job at being innovative and creative.


    You do realize that was a very subjective comment, right? It sounds like all the negative comments we've been hearing so far stems from the high expectations people forced upon Spinz before it was even released. You have no one to blame but yourself for the disappointment.




    Spoiler:
    You say that I'm one of those that would like to see the art form progress. That's true, but I sincerely believe you can't progress unless you yourself maintain a professional attitude. Sadly, I have NOT seen too much of that in this thread.

  608. CudOfCow
    Date: Wed, Jul 23 2008 13:22:11

    QUOTE (Eso @ Jul 22 2008, 04:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    You do realize that was a very subjective comment, right? It sounds like all the negative comments we've been hearing so far stems from the high expectations people forced upon Spinz before it was even released. You have no one to blame but yourself for the disappointment.


    Spoiler:
    You say that I'm one of those that would like to see the art form progress. That's true, but I sincerely believe you can't progress unless you yourself maintain a professional attitude. Sadly, I have NOT seen too much of that in this thread.


    Well, you got me there. The only point i really wanted to make was that there was a lot of expectation, and that they are dissapointing and overpriced. I wish for a second that i had the ability to make plastic molds and create pen mods, its sad to see that missed opportunity.

  609. perrako
    Date: Thu, Jul 24 2008 19:09:41

    True, the default ronin is very unbalanced. However, I've found that it can actually be a really great pen if you reverse the entire pen and double cap it. That is to say, put the metal cone on the back, the ink tube reversed, and keep the grip and an endcap on the other side. Then, put a cap on each side, and voila! not a terrible pen to spin. A little off-center, but not too bad.

    To be fair, though, I'm getting really tired of the caps splitting. I have to keep supergluing over cracks, which is faaar from ideal.

  610. Spidey
    Date: Fri, Jul 25 2008 05:47:17

    Does anyone know when Spinz will be sold elsewhere?

  611. CudOfCow
    Date: Fri, Jul 25 2008 12:49:25

    QUOTE (Spidey @ Jul 25 2008, 01:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Does anyone know when Spinz will be sold elsewhere?


    you could probably get one in the trade forum, they are all over the united states...

  612. Spidey
    Date: Fri, Jul 25 2008 21:58:09

    What I mean by elsewhere is other countries, not by trade.

  613. Lawliet
    Date: Sun, Aug 31 2008 19:15:41

    QUOTE (K4S @ Mar 3 2008, 08:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    If SPINZ starts their own forum instead of linking to here i'll sign up, post a new video/pictures of my LED mods, be like "haha look what i did with my SPINZ mod" and then never answer PM's and disappear back to UPSB hahahah.gif

    Haha, that'd be hilarious, to top if off I'd hit the floor laughing if SPINZ then desperately tried to make a LED pen and then release it only to have it become a laughing stock! tongue.gif

  614. Max-x
    Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 00:02:28

    i just got the 3rd level one and it is nice, i like it better than my RSVP V2 tongue.gif

  615. Sakura
    Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 00:33:49

    LOL you just bumped this old post man.

  616. Shadowclad
    Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 21:36:48

    So did you.

  617. Awesome
    Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 21:48:39

    OMG thread revival

    This has been happening a lot lately, or I am just looking out for it more so I can get it.

    So what happened to spinz I haven't heard much of them since the release.

  618. shoeman6
    Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 22:09:33

    SPINZ SUCKS > _ <
    Gives a horrible name to pen spinners.
    This kid at my school was like
    COOL IS THAT ONE OF THOSE "TRICK" pens?? - _ -

  619. Fall
    Date: Tue, Jan 13 2009 04:03:44

    I really don't like spinz. I mean they had a good idea and everything, but I just don't think the idea went through all the way. I guess that maybe they should make an account and ask for ideas on new pens.

  620. kenny158
    Date: Tue, Jan 13 2009 04:56:28

    i have this guy that sits right next to me in french and he bought the Zero and Ronin pen and when i tried it i hated it so much... then like a few days later he broke them because he pushed on the pens barrel.. Hah... it was funny

  621. kenyawest5
    Date: Mon, Feb 23 2009 20:55:33

    Can someone help me plz...

    are they even worth it? have anyone tried these out and like/dislike them? I'm currently just using some random pens i find around the house, nothing fancy, should i get one?

    thanks

  622. IAmTheMrGuy
    Date: Mon, Feb 23 2009 20:58:22

    QUOTE (kenyawest5 @ Feb 23 2009, 03:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Can someone help me plz...

    are they even worth it? have anyone tried these out and like/dislike them? I'm currently just using some random pens i find around the house, nothing fancy, should i get one?

    thanks

    to be honest, I would say that buying spinz just isn't worth it. I would reccomend buying some regular pens and modding them yourself.

  623. Escorpio123
    Date: Mon, Feb 23 2009 20:58:25

    Pretty helpful

  624. kenyawest5
    Date: Mon, Feb 23 2009 21:08:26

    thanks =]

  625. jwGary
    Date: Fri, Oct 23 2009 05:27:42

    So today I went to my local Rite Aid and saw that they had the Spinz Ronin (and some of the Spinz mods) and the Spinz Zero. i bought the Ronin and was happy. I'm still a bit new to pen spinning and I am trying to learn the TA reverse. After a day (and a few drops from my computer chair), i noticed some cracks along the bottom of the pen cap and some cracks by the bumps on the inside of the cap that hold the cap in place when it is on the pen. i didnt do anything crazy and the drops weren't that bad. (the only thing to happen was my sister trying to force the cap onto the back of the pen when she was in a rush to write something down). Is this normal after a day?

    thanks.

  626. dEViLoFmE
    Date: Fri, Oct 23 2009 06:19:06

    Scratches?

  627. jwGary
    Date: Fri, Oct 23 2009 06:47:50

    QUOTE (dEViLoFmE @ Oct 23 2009, 02:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Scratches?


    no, not scratches. If I do try putting the cap on the back, the whole bottom becomes white-ish, as if all the microscopic cracks are being stretched apart. Also, the cracks by the bumps are only by the bumps, nowhere else near the middle of the caps

  628. iamk34n3
    Date: Fri, Oct 23 2009 07:21:52

    Spinz are made of really bad quality plastic. It is normal for them to break after a day or two of use.

  629. Tushix
    Date: Fri, Oct 23 2009 08:04:00

    I'd recommend RSVP MX

  630. dEViLoFmE
    Date: Fri, Oct 23 2009 12:28:42

    QUOTE (Tushix @ Oct 23 2009, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I'd recommend RSVP MX


    Yeah,at a way cheaper price.

  631. jwGary
    Date: Fri, Oct 23 2009 13:58:42

    i was going to get/make an RSVP MX, i just haven't gotten around to doing it. thanks everyone

  632. Simplex【ヾ(^へ^)】
    Date: Fri, Oct 23 2009 17:15:15

    at first just start with an mx. its a nice looking pen, popular, and it won't break in a day tongue.gif

  633. Cavern
    Date: Fri, Oct 23 2009 23:25:16

    then move onto commsa if want to because its same price and spins pretty nice

  634. jwGary
    Date: Sat, Oct 24 2009 00:28:26

    O.o topic got combined. well i'm going to go to some local stores soon to see if i can get the pens for the RSVP MX. as for a comssa, i dont think anywhere near me has the right pens, might look to penwish for that

  635. shadowspinner
    Date: Sun, Nov 22 2009 00:45:24

    QUOTE (Jbiggie @ Feb 1 2008, 05:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I saw SpinZ on the Uk tournamnet site. Has anyone else seen this????????

    KAM'S FAQ ON SPINZ: http://www.upsb.info/forum/index.php?s=&am...ost&p=55304

    ----
    Review threads:
    Spinz - Zero
    Spinz - Ronin
    Spinz - Axis


    i'v seen IT TOO!!!

  636. shakenbake
    Date: Sat, Dec 19 2009 18:33:22

    i bought a spinz zero for 2$ (on sale from 10$) even tho it wuz only 2$ it wasnt worth it. the body sticker sucks it has zero momentum and is hard to modify it for your own preference

  637. Nation
    Date: Mon, Dec 21 2009 22:03:17

    QUOTE (shakenbake @ Dec 19 2009, 12:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    i bought a spinz zero for 2$ (on sale from 10$) even tho it wuz only 2$ it wasnt worth it. the body sticker sucks it has zero momentum and is hard to modify it for your own preference

    facepalm.gif
    that's the whole point.

  638. Colin
    Date: Mon, Dec 21 2009 22:05:18

    theyre only 1$.

  639. Shakenbake
    Date: Mon, Dec 21 2009 22:32:42

    QUOTE (Nation @ Dec 21 2009, 04:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    facepalm.gif
    that's the whole point.



    i know i wuz agreeing

  640. o.0dsrp
    Date: Mon, Dec 28 2009 23:20:14

    Sorry if I'm reviving this thread, but I saw the rubber rings on the "Axis". Could those be used in other mods? Or are the holes too small to fit on most barrels? Is the elasticity good for the rubber rings?

  641. iamk34n3
    Date: Mon, Dec 28 2009 23:26:43

    The holes are too small to be used with other mods. The only way I've use them is to incorporate some sort of nail in your mod, and then put the rings through that.

  642. King Kommander X
    Date: Sun, Mar 28 2010 18:26:30

    is the axis pretty much a comssa?

  643. Penwish
    Date: Sun, Mar 28 2010 19:30:35

    It's quite different. Axis is more of a poor man's KT than a comssa

  644. spinzpro
    Date: Fri, Apr 9 2010 19:23:05

    i got a SPINZ AXIS...
    it is really smooth but in my opinion...2 short
    i like my mods that i made better smile.gif

  645. Nation
    Date: Fri, Apr 9 2010 21:12:48

    QUOTE (spinzpro @ Apr 9 2010, 02:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    i got a SPINZ AXIS...
    it is really smooth but in my opinion...2 short
    i like my mods that i made better smile.gif

    Fail. Spinz don't spin much better than a Severed Cock.

  646. pakspinner
    Date: Tue, Apr 13 2010 17:43:46

    at rite aid there having a huge discount on spinz products.
    intermidate pen: before $13 now $3
    extra pen, grips and wrist band pack: before $6 now $1

  647. Penwish
    Date: Tue, Apr 13 2010 17:48:52

    yeah they have been on clearance like a few months after they came out it was all like a buck a walgreens and walmart

  648. pakspinner
    Date: Tue, Apr 13 2010 17:51:53

    QUOTE (Penwish @ Apr 13 2010, 10:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    yeah they have been on clearance like a few months after they came out it was all like a buck a walgreens and walmart


    i guess they want to get rid of them wink.gif
    also they have metalic sunburst for $9

  649. Catch
    Date: Tue, Jun 8 2010 22:20:17

    I personally think you should get Spinz because it really sucks on C.o.g