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General Discussion / Teaching others penspinning
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Date: Thu, Feb 21 2008 06:19:13
so i always get the "woah, how'd you do that" comment from people all the time and i always want to teach them, but i've always been a poor teacher of anything
and with the added incentive that xero and I want to start a penspinning club in our school next year, the ability to teach is a must
so what are some tips on teaching pen spinning to others
is there a specific formula that people can use in learning a trick (like, 1-initial grip 2-applying energy etc..)
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Date: Thu, Feb 21 2008 06:20:18
Tell them to go watch eso's tutorials.
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Date: Thu, Feb 21 2008 06:26:08
well youtube's blocked on my school's computer and these kids these days are way too lazy to go on later or just way to stupid to remember his name
but since you bring up eso, what makes his tutorials so much better than others?
cause they're just longer and it's spoken?
is there a pattern in the way he teaches? -
Date: Thu, Feb 21 2008 06:45:56QUOTE (-JC- @ Feb 21 2008, 05:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>well youtube's blocked on my school's computer and these kids these days are way too lazy to go on later or just way to stupid to remember his name
but since you bring up eso, what makes his tutorials so much better than others?
cause they're just longer and it's spoken?
is there a pattern in the way he teaches?
I personally thing Eso's tutorial's are better then other's is his willingness to go and show all the steps one by one slowly , and explaining in simple terms that most if not everyone could understand.
1 thing to do when teaching is persistence ... or more like patience. Gotta keep encouraging them, keep showing them the postures and grips etc. -
Date: Thu, Feb 21 2008 06:52:56
you know, i was in the city one day and i saw this sign thingy that mentioned how the best way to teach is to show the student that you wont' give up, or something like that
so i guess you're right, just keep on pushing it onto them
that is of course, they actually want to learn and are enthusiastic about it
if they just wanna learn it instantly, i guess i really can't help them too much -
Date: Thu, Feb 21 2008 06:58:58
There are some teaching articles for Sonic, Charge, Infinity and Thumbaround in the Pen spinning relations section of the wiki.
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Date: Thu, Feb 21 2008 07:02:29
oh wow, never knew that section of the wiki existed
gotta check that out
thanks for the link
but i kinda want a general method for teaching
nevertheless, thanks a lot for the link since many people won't end up learning anything past the fundies anyway
edit: and yay, 500 posts -
Date: Thu, Feb 21 2008 07:07:20
I find teaching a challenging thing to do. Sure, it requires a lot of patience and repetition (for which I get some flack for, those fucks), but teaching also challenges you to find ways to unlock the mental blocks in each individual. You see, some people might get it easily with just repetition, but some require some sort of analogy, anecdote, or a dive into my own thought process when I first figured out the trick.
Analogies or some kind of mnemonic device helps. Sometimes I made them up on the spot, such as the "Wall" in the Sonic. I noticed that as I was teaching it. There were some tricks where I had to sit down and think about which analogy I could come up with that did not require too much thought. A good example would be my Charge tutorial. I tried to explain that the rubber band could be a straight line, but if extended into 2 dimensions, it would become a circle. Some found it extremely helpful, others were completely lost. I anticipated this and tried to find other ways to explain the circular motion.
Anyways, if you want to become a better teacher, try tutoring your classmates in your best subject. I did that back in high school and got a lot of practice.
When someone says, "man, I just don't GET it!", you can get discouraged. What I do is just try to find another way of explaining and illustrating the concepts.
If all else fails, just say "fuck it" and tell them to learn something else. There's a lot of people out there who just don't get it. It's sad, but that's the world we live in.
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Date: Thu, Feb 21 2008 07:14:27
eso himself posted....
but anyways, yeahh..everybody has their own way of learning which can be a real pain
everytime i teach someone something, they can't learn teh same way that i taught the last person
like for me, your "wall" analogy didn't really help (no offense or anythign ^.^;;) but that's just me
so i guess when me and xero starts up that club, we better start learning some new ways of teaching -__-''
when i'm tutoring people how to do chem or math, i can teach and then they can say "oh yeah, i get it now" and then i just go off
but when my brother says that, i can come up with a question and test him and see whether or not he's lying since i have the time at home
at school, if i'm teaching people a trick and they say, oh, i get it, i can tell them to do it and see whether or not they actually understood how i taught as compared to chem problems where it'd take a long time to get anotehr problem, solve it myself, and then test them
so..*notes down*: take diff. approaches for diff. people and be persistant -
Date: Thu, Feb 21 2008 07:23:43
My usual pattern of teaching goes something like this:
1) Go through each step slowly
2) Show examples
3) Recap and bring in the "whole picture"
4) Show more examples and suggestions of how to combo in and out of it
5) Recap quickly
You wouldn't believe how many times you have to repeat yourself in order to burn the concepts into someone's mind. Some "prodigies" may learn it by the 2 minute mark of my tutorial. Good for them, but they still dipshits for complaining about me repeating myself. -
Date: Thu, Feb 21 2008 10:15:01
I've taught a few people in my class to spin TAs,Charges,Infinities,and Sonics.
Well,it's kinda fun actually,teaching other people to spin,it makes me feel like a pro.
It can be frustrating sometimes though,when he/she is doing the same mistakes over and over again,and when I repeat the concept,they still do the trick in the wrong way. -
Date: Thu, Feb 21 2008 17:32:14QUOTE (K4S @ Feb 21 2008, 02:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Tell them to go watch eso's tutorials.
I always did that LOL
But normally people just don't have the patience to do it, they just give up half way. -
Date: Fri, Feb 22 2008 00:57:15QUOTE (Eso @ Feb 21 2008, 03:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>My usual pattern of teaching goes something like this:
1) Go through each step slowly
2) Show examples
3) Recap and bring in the "whole picture"
4) Show more examples and suggestions of how to combo in and out of it
5) Recap quickly
You wouldn't believe how many times you have to repeat yourself in order to burn the concepts into someone's mind.
I completely agree. I once tought a second grader how to do a TA in a matter of 10 minutes.
There are two things that a lot of people don´t seem to take into consideration:- How good of a teacher you as a pen spinner are. Regardless of what you´re trying to teach someone, it doesn´t help if you suck at explaining things and being patient.
- How dedicated the student is. There´s no way anyone will learn even a TA if they don´t try with 100% effort.
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Date: Fri, Feb 22 2008 01:03:57
Hmmm..... i've been teaching people lately....
For me, i just explain to them the fundamentals (no need to overwelm them with freestyles)
i teach them the TA, and normally they get it down in a week.
If they're interested, i teach them more, and tell them to get a mod
they usually quit, but some have become part of this community
Go Penspinning!!!!!
Now i know why the teachers hate me.....
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Date: Sun, Feb 24 2008 20:31:58
